home-base-strategy

[acoustic bluff]

lol im not paying attention

the rc? rocket spears and electro boots?

[solemn tiger]

no i dont use roket spear

hogs and eboots

bcs i dont rc walk her

i value her with mp pushing with main army cleaning the rest of the base in (mostly) L form

so i save her active abilities (hogs) on when she gets a lot of heat (targeted by mono/singles)

her surviving vs not in my case would impact the chance of me timefailing or threestarring

also that’s simpler bcs i just focus and maxing out one set of equipment for most heroes

[acoustic bluff]

got it thank you pinkan

hogs for helping main armies

[plucky turret]

was that grand warden ability intentional? if so why did you pop it so early

[solemn tiger]

take every steps i do with grain of salts

i might executed it poorly

but if anything, it only shows how good this army is

even with subpar execution, still have quite a large margin of error

[tired surge]

how should i attack this i need to triple 😭

[split night]

you can just blimp it with super archers, then dragons + balloons for seeking air mines & healing tome

[plucky turret]

you can also use witches, yetis and bat

with a log launcher and yetis in the cc (or a super yeti)

[abstract quest]

blizz

land on cc

[sharp sandal]

I wish rc equipment would preview on th13 equipment

i dont want to see her rocket spear destroying mid ths

[ornate shard]

is warden on fb or etome better for rr?

[abstract quest]

i think etome

or u can run htome rage gem

if ur gonna use fb thats also good too but use dedicated fb

[ornate shard]

well I am using a dedicated fb

[abstract quest]

then yea roots is fine

rl and switches are better but roots are still very good

[ornate shard]

just running it with rage gem

not sure if thats the combination

[abstract quest]

yea

rage gem

[rough hull]

what should i upgrade

[echo gazelle]

depends on what army you like to use jinx

[ornate shard]

lol sorry for questions but what best pairs with etome
rage gem or healing tome

[sour moon]

Depends on the army

[ornate shard]

uh what army

[sour moon]

RR is pretty sure healing tome but u can play dragons well with rage gem

[sour moon]

U tell me bro 😭

[ornate shard]

I was taking abt rr earlier

but yeah rr

[rough hull]

im using rc mass drag atm, but all heroes gonna be down for months except rc

[abstract quest]

honestly

preference

u could even run htome rage gem with a heal spell i think

[ornate shard]

cool
I love variety

[echo gazelle]

i would probably go for the rocket spear then , if all your heroes will be down for so long

and forget the frozen arrow even exists

[rough hull]

king/queen ~2-3 months, warden/mp ~1month

but alr ill go for that and healing tome

someone suggested to try out healing tome

if mass drags, healing tome + rage gem, or rage gem + eternal tome?

or healing + eternal

[echo gazelle]

its personal preference really

[rough hull]

which do you personally prefer though?

[echo gazelle]

i like the healing tome at th17

helps keep the dragons alive with all the splash damage

[rough hull]

im at th14 atm

hmm

[echo gazelle]

gonna be honest if you're not using heroes better jus thold on upgrading equipments

[rough hull]

i hesitating whether to upgrade eternal to >11 cuz of the nerf, not sure how it'll really effect

[echo gazelle]

the update is gonna drop soon and wait and see how the eternal tome changes will affect drag

[rough hull]

and now since my heroes are down, im just doing syeti + 1 clone in cc, then rc charge mass drags

[rough hull]

alr alr

is the date out yet?

[echo gazelle]

The Grand Warden's Eternal Tome rework which was announced before, will be a part of this update
Total duration has been increased by 0.2 seconds at all levels.
Damage Immunity effect ends 1 second after exiting the Grand Warden's aura
Damage Immunity is also given to units who enter the Grand Warden's aura after activation

this is all ik

[abstract quest]

some time in this month

thats it

[echo gazelle]

date no not yet

[rough hull]

alr got it, thanks yall

🫡

[echo gazelle]

np , happy clashing !

[acoustic bluff]

date is at the upcoming update in which there are new temporary defends (check judo sloth youtube)

[shut sonnet]

Hey, what would be a good strategy for attacking th13 and th 14 as th12 ? (thanks)

[dreamy latch]

I use dragons + bats for th 13

You can take down most of the bases

For TH 14 probably super archer / super wizard blimp works

Depends on the base

[golden ridge]

It's. A. Rework.

Also yes max e tome

[dreamy latch]

That is still going to work, expect for blimps

[golden ridge]

This is a rework.

Not nerf

[rough hull]

nerf for blimp users

ig

[golden ridge]

Nope

Delay the blimp deployment

[echo gazelle]

well i didtn say nerf

[acoustic bluff]

for me it's a buff of eternal tome because it's duration increased and combined it with healing tome, the HP of troops are recovering

[echo gazelle]

just said changes i think

[golden ridge]

Yes but it's still usable

[acoustic bluff]

very usable

[golden ridge]

Perhaps yes

Very

[rough hull]

yea its usable, just not as easy for blimp users

so its a nerf for them

[acoustic bluff]

also blimp is supposed to land -> execute -> then forget not to tank your main army (in my onion)

[rough hull]

rework for the rest

[golden ridge]

Yea

[golden ridge]

No it doesn't tank ur army

[dreamy latch]

Oh yeah, that maybe would work out

[golden ridge]

U dont use it that way

[dreamy latch]

Tho the blimp wont be able to get that far ahead from your army

So maybe its not that effective

But who knows

[acoustic bluff]

yes

[golden ridge]

Thats why delay the blimp deployment

[acoustic bluff]

delay after pathing?

[golden ridge]

Also ur right

[golden ridge]

When army pushing before core then u put blimp

[dreamy latch]

Yes but still when it leaves eternal tome it cant get far anymore

[golden ridge]

There's still a 1 second timer

[acoustic bluff]

ok

[dreamy latch]

Yeah, maybe not that bad when there is no air traps / sweepers

[acoustic bluff]

1 second probably to tank 2 air defense shot

still a buff to me

[golden ridge]

I mean tbh I recommend using s yeti or yeti clone quad blimp cuz u won't do much with sarch they take time to kill stuff

And they need invis

Yetis or s yeti quad is quick

[acoustic bluff]

agree

it's a quick execution

what is blizzard

[golden ridge]

Yup

[golden ridge]

S wiz blimp bomb

[acoustic bluff]

blimp mainly to rid off the time fail

[acoustic bluff]

regular wizard with no steroid?

[golden ridge]

5 Super wizards

1 rage 5 invis

And blimp

[acoustic bluff]

óóóóó

thanks

[golden ridge]

👍

[acoustic bluff]

should i buy the dark deal event

[golden ridge]

But I'll still recommend the either yetis over it

[acoustic bluff]

👍🏻

[golden ridge]

Are u willing to spend money

If so, yes

Very worth it

[oblique marlin]

Is the minion crown equipment worth buying or rather the magic mirror? I already am using giant arrow for queen to snipe air defences, so idk if I should buy the crown or mirror... Rn biggest bottle neck is ores
I mainly use dragon attacks so idk if mirror is worth, but the crown is just too expensive to make it viable

[golden ridge]

Buy mirror

[golden ridge]

If ur air only buy crown

If u use only air

Armies

[plucky turret]

if i pay for the pass should I get both just in case?

if not what are the best purchases for a th13 (from the pass)

[hybrid stirrup]

yes get both if u get pass.u can even get all 3 equipment if u get pass

[golden ridge]

Yes

[golden ridge]

E tome

[fossil gust]

the unclaimed rewards in the season pass will all be converted to gems if you don't have the capacity right?

[golden ridge]

If u press on it?

[fossil gust]

meaning my unclaimed hero book will turn into 50gems automatically because i already have one

[golden ridge]

I think u would lose it, no?

[fossil gust]

i assume so

people would stack hero book seasons after seasons if otherwise

[copper halo]

I dark crown worth it buy guys

[golden ridge]

With air armies yes

[copper halo]

Seriously

[golden ridge]

.

[copper halo]

Means worth it to buy

Or not

[golden ridge]

If u have other mandatory epic equips and u use dragons or Air armies then yes

[copper halo]

Oky

[tired sandal]

good attack strats for th 14?

[inner mountain]

Guys, can smbd explain me , why blimp with super archers doesnt deal damage (its too little)

Im 15th, use rage, 2 clone and the rest is invise

[rocky elk]

I find them kind of slow but it also depends on the bases

[pale fable]

are there any strategies without RC? for th15, 16 & 17?

[fossil gust]

what's your clone spell level

are you getting maxed sarcher possible?

[lime dagger]

Yes
Just use 100 sneaky goblins and 5 jump spells and 1 cc jump spell and blimp with only sneaky goblins

[acoustic bluff]

i wanna cry

[woeful wave]

Hero dive super hog, super witch smash

[woeful wave]

Do that

[inner mountain]

Clone max lvl, archers number is 4 in cc

48/50 place of cc

[inner mountain]

I mean , whatever the base is, it deals so little damage to buildings

[cloud bane]

Should I start working on minion prince equip? I will be getting the crown

[worldly gulch]

on my queen i have a lvl 12 invis and level 14 frozen arrow, what level should i upgrade my mirror to, to use it?

[lilac tulip]

need help in war attacking against a th16 im a th15 without electro boots on rc

just need a rough idea of a good strat

[serene pike]

Is this fine for a hit up TH11 vs TH12? I couldnt find a better GA angle but I still wanna funnel from the opposite side. I have Drag Loons (9 drags 5 loons 2 Baby Drag 5 archers 1 lavahound) and Blimp I have 3 super wizards 1 wizard and 1 archer. for spells I have 2 rage 2 freeze 6 invis (2 from CC) 1 poison. Heros GW with ET Rage gem, AQ is action figure GA and MP is dark orb puppet

Maybe life gem on Warden is good too but idk what id swap it for

[rain zealot]

So basically blizzard drags?

[serene pike]

Yes

He has all xbows set to ground so

Seems good

[rain zealot]

Imo deploy drags from the other side

Like

Infront of the enemy queen in a line

Other than that you’re chillin

[serene pike]

So the queens not isolated?

[rain zealot]

Ye

[serene pike]

Yea that was my main concern why I asked

But then I have the air sweeper in my face

[rain zealot]

Also so the drags dont spread

Lol if the arrow is aimed how you want it the sweeper will go down

[serene pike]

Is GA that fat

Damn

😭

Well in case the sweeper goes down ill do in front of queen, if it doesnt Ill go from the other side

[rain zealot]

Sounds good

[serene pike]

Sweeper + CC troops seems like a hassle

Alr bet thanks

[rain zealot]

If blizzard gets its value you’ll be fine regardless

[serene pike]

Yea for sure

I mean where I land there wont be giant bombs

No 2 tile gaps

Maybe springs but

Should be fine still

[rain zealot]

If you want replace the regular troops with goblins

They will check for traps

In the blimp

[serene pike]

Is wizard and archer not worth? Ill try 5 goblins then

Bcuz they dont target defenses thats quite smart actually

I didnt think of that, thanks!

[rain zealot]

Traps trigger on troop movement

[serene pike]

Yea and goblins rush to the storages right away

[rain zealot]

The wizard and archer barely move because they’re ranged, Goblins will sprint to the loot

Triggering all of the traps

[serene pike]

Thats smart

[rain zealot]

[tropic valley]

Th 11 vs th 12

[serene pike]

Yes?

[tropic valley]

Which strategy?

[serene pike]

Blizzard Drags

[serene pike]

See my above screenshot

[rain zealot]

It’s basically a th11 btw

Just th12

[tropic valley]

Yeah true

[tropic valley]

I think the strategy is fine

But take 5 invis instead of 6

5 invis are more than enough

[oblique marlin]

What would I build my minion price as? Dark orb + crown?

[sour knoll]

What’s better : queen mirror equipment or minion prince dark crown
Can anyone guide ?

[stable valve]

Hi

[sour knoll]

Hi

[hasty heath]

Hii

[stable valve]

Any telugu player

[sour knoll]

What’s better : queen mirror equipment or minion prince dark crown
Can anyone guide ?

[hasty heath]

Hindi

[sour knoll]

?

[lilac tulip]

need help in war attacking against a th16 im a th15 without electro boots on rc need rough idea of a good strat dm me if anyone can help

[hasty heath]

Koy hindi wala nhi hai kya

[lilac tulip]

i can send pic of base i gotta attack in dm

[tropic valley]

Which army do you use?

[tropic valley]

Yes say

[tropic valley]

I think I can help a little 😀

[sour knoll]

I m using ground army

[cunning lantern]

Pretty rushed but not the worst

[tropic valley]

Then go for magic mirror

[tropic valley]

Yup

[molten spruce]

Check dm

[stable valve]

Any telugu

[cloud bane]

Should I start working on minion prince equip? I will be getting the crown

[wild cliff]

Grand warden is better but it’s good to upgrade prince equip in case of upgrade so yes maybe get minion prince equips up to 8 at least

[cloud bane]

My warden equip max

[meager osprey]

upgrade e boots, dont get crown until your other equipment is upgraded

crown isnt that much better then puppet so don’t waste starry ore on it

[hushed bison]

is eternal tome and rage for warden equipment fine for dragons armies

also do i max e boots before spiky ball

[cloud bane]

How is puppet slightly weaker than it

[meager osprey]

yeah

[meager osprey]

puppets can tank traps, crown is hardly better, not worth unless you have everything else maxed

[cloud bane]

Eboots don't get a lot of power from upgrades. It'll drain a lot of my ore for not much gain I feel

[meager osprey]

which u don’t

[meager osprey]

naw it adds up fasho

[cloud bane]

Ima have to be using prince bc I need to upgrade my barb king

Should I use puppet over crown then?

[lunar iron]

Hi

[meager osprey]

yeah unless crown gets buffed it’s not worth wasting ore on

[coarse knoll]

guys i need a new strat as a th 16

[lilac tulip]

need help in war attacking against a th16 im a th15 without electro boots on rc need rough idea of a good strat dm me if anyone can help

can send pic of base i gotta attack in dm

[carmine iron]

What is the best ways to grind to upgrade walls? I’m in legend league so I can’t just play a bunch of games

[old breach]

What strat would you prefer after eternal tomb nerf as a th 16 attacking th 17 on legend league

[fossil gust]

drop out of legend, finish your wall, climb back

[tiny kelp]

there isn’t…

in LL

[tiny kelp]

you want ground?

[coarse knoll]

doenst matter

[tiny kelp]

jvc

[coarse knoll]

something good

[tiny kelp]

i got a few

[coarse knoll]

for th 16

[tiny kelp]

yea

i got some

[woeful wave]

Just tell the strats

[tiny kelp]

i was gone teach him how to use it

[woeful wave]

Maybe something without etome like fb rl/switch

[old breach]

Maybe I am noob th 17 annihilate my troop in an blink lol

[woeful wave]

Damn

[old breach]

Maybe will try to do same with lavahound or something

[deep cradle]

the only thing that will be affected is basically blimps running out of his radious, all other things are fine

herodive superhogs works great for an easy attack

otherwise theres the normal wardenwalk fireball rocketloons, or with adding a rcc; or the furnace variant. You can also quite easily take down th17's with FB RCC furnace spam

fb rcc furnaces is kinda hilarious, it's a incredibly difficult attack to do correct, but incredibly easy once you've learned it. It's one of those attacks where you can be impeccably reliable

[coarse knoll]

@tiny kelp

dm ?

[tiny kelp]

hi

ok

[unborn rain]

enemies cant tripple me, i m new th16, against th17 😭

[woeful wave]

2 times 99%

Probably not good attacker then lol

[unborn rain]

its a lv27 clan with 19 war win streak

i expected more

[woeful wave]

Its more about the strat they use

And how they perform them

If they attack you with random stuff, ofc its not gonna work

[unborn rain]

Strats seemed fine, for the ones i saw because of replays not being there anymore after update

this was one

And this one

i mean not top notch, but max stuff against none maxed th16

[woeful wave]

Then the execution was bad lol

Cause no matter how good your base is, it wont hold against those attacks by a decent player

[unborn rain]

ya i expected them to be somewhat decent

[woeful wave]

But also i think people struggle more against th16 than th17

[unborn rain]

so you tell me to not upgrade to th17?

[woeful wave]

Because they forget how to attack there

[woeful wave]

Im not saying that

Just that people forgot how to attack th16 as th17

They probably just went into th or smth thinking nothing happens 😂

[unborn rain]

take half base with rcc and overpower the rest no?

nah they all attacked from the opposite side of the th

[woeful wave]

Yeah but if you go into the wrong things it wont work

[distant jetty]

give trophy push strat no hero th13

[unborn rain]

they all started where the eagle is at

[deep cradle]

someone using a revive spell: bad

[unborn rain]

thats why i said its not top notch

[woeful wave]

Show the base

[unborn rain]

but still its th17 against th16

[unborn rain]

already did

[woeful wave]

Sneaky gobs

[woeful wave]

Where

[unborn rain]

few days ago lmao

or weeks

idunno

[deep cradle]

just take townhalls with sgobs

[distant jetty]

what cc

[deep cradle]

no cc

[woeful wave]

I didn't saw that

[deep cradle]

you just need sgobs, jumps, invis, haste maybe, rage

[unborn rain]

its this itzu base

[distant jetty]

any 2 star strat tho?

[woeful wave]

Ah ok

[deep cradle]

I guess you can push with sarch hydra

it'll get 2stars reliably, but you'll need sarchers in cc

[woeful wave]

You dont push trophies without heroes

[deep cradle]

sometimes 3's

I pushed 700 trophies on my alt yesterday without heroes

I clearly hate myself

but that's another topic

[woeful wave]

Yeah i dont see the reason there

[deep cradle]

I needed alot of DE

[woeful wave]

Its just unnecessary work

[unborn rain]

you need a lot of Deutschland?

[distant jetty]

I need only 300 trophies I should be fine

[woeful wave]

Has nothing to do with pushing trophies

[woeful wave]

💀

[deep cradle]

if you have goldpass perks you can run sarch hydra

[unborn rain]

because that strat is locked behind having the gold pass

[deep cradle]

300 trophies will just be like 40 attacks then

no, because it's annoying to wait for 10 minutes between each attack

even with a dono acc, when the attack only will take like 1 minute 30

[unborn rain]

just pop a cake from the curretn event

or does cd still matter for this?

[deep cradle]

I guess you can do one sarch hydra, and then sgob 10 townhalls between the sarch attacks

[deep cradle]

cd rom has nothing to do with coc, no. It's a purely digital game

[unborn rain]

i only roam in league of legends tho

[deep cradle]

mm, I thought the leaked collector upgrades would come this update

[woeful wave]

Maybe the leaks were wrong

[deep cradle]

they have been in the past

[woeful wave]

Thats why I dont believe leaks

[deep cradle]

it's so annoying that the clashofleaks subreddit removes leaks after a certain amount of time

[woeful wave]

If theres no official sneak peak video or anything i dont believe it

[deep cradle]

most of the leaks around the release of updates are correct, and the collector leak was during the th17 release

[woeful wave]

Might be true

I still wait till its ingame

[deep cradle]

but it hasn't arrived yet, and it's been quite alot of time

[woeful wave]

Otherwise its just false hope and long wait

[lilac tulip]

need help in war attacking against a th16 im a th15 without electro boots on rc need rough idea of a good strat dm me if anyone can help

can send a pic of base i gotta attack in dm

[unborn rain]

i only help if you send me feet pics

[lilac tulip]

no problem

haha

[jovial ridge]

i cant even run tests on it

what do i do

[unborn rain]

well at least you know its bad

[jovial ridge]

how do u tell then

@unborn rain

it might be good

[unborn rain]

maybe build your spitters first

[jovial ridge]

no

[unborn rain]

oki

[jovial ridge]

ig

too many ppl here arent bright

downvotes n stuff in bases link

like a hivemind

[unborn rain]

[deep cradle]

yes. Because 99% of the bases posted are utter horse shit

ppl knowing what is bad isn't a hivemind

[jovial ridge]

you said that because you havent really tested those in practise

[deep cradle]

you need to search up specific builders to get good bases in this server

[jovial ridge]

if you dont know whats good you should be able to 100% it

[deep cradle]

yeah... 99% of the th17 bases posted are easily 3starred by th15's

barely any bases for lower townhalls follow reachability

[jovial ridge]

edrag?

[deep cradle]

even naming that troop means you know nothing

the most you need to do against E-drags is have 2 tiles spaces between stuff

[jovial ridge]

reachability is edrags right?

[deep cradle]

reachability is queen

[jovial ridge]

okay

i didnt know that terminology

[deep cradle]

having no core defenses reachable from adjacent compartments

you'd probably have to scroll for 40 minutes in that chat to find a base which follows reachability, and it's then a base that's posted by known builders

[abstract quest]

lucky for u

[deep cradle]

emily, clam, dwagonz etc

I'm not a user of the bases in this server XD

[abstract quest]

unfortunately this jack mf keeps reposting his stupid name based

[deep cradle]

yeah... asking for ppl to buy designs

advertising should be forbidden in base-links

[abstract quest]

should i make a rage bait base

[deep cradle]

what I know for this server is that dwagonz has some bases posted for th11 & th12, some1 has bases posted for th12, person above this message has th13 bases, I have a few th14 bases posted copied from BB server, one th15, and one th16. And then Emily has bases for th17

[abstract quest]

the one th15 is a concept base

[deep cradle]

it works incredibly well with some changes

[abstract quest]

that many open comps is a crime against the meta in the big 2025

[deep cradle]

I usually have one or 2 fails in normal wars every war

[jovial ridge]

isnt this one

[abstract quest]

that could be one

[jovial ridge]

i made it lol

[abstract quest]

yea

and it sucks

[jovial ridge]

nobody can use it

[abstract quest]

pro review over

[jovial ridge]

because it doesnt have eagle or spitters LOL

[devout bay]

anyone has base Building server link

[deep cradle]

it doesn't allow links

[devout bay]

Dm allows link

[deep cradle]

it doesn't allow that either. you can search for it in the community servers, its the third one

[deep cradle]

the server doesn't allow being linked

as in the BB server

[devout bay]

There should be a permanent invite somewhere

[devout bay]

I'm on mobile

[deep cradle]

there

[abstract quest]

there's a command for it

!!invite

[deep cradle]

I just found it in read-me

[abstract quest]

oh lmao

bb server died at th15-17

there's basically nothing

[deep cradle]

th15 is kinda somewhat not entirely dead

it atleast has inspo

of which one base is good

[abstract quest]

yea those bases are hot

[deep cradle]

this base with adjusted rage tower at th is really strong

[plucky turret]

I lost mine last season

[devout bay]

Yeah it's not active as it was

[deep cradle]

kinda boring to build when noone uses fun strategies

the video itzu did on bases now with the temporary defenses just revolved around trapping rc lol

[round spruce]

does the enternal tome rework mean I cant do a yeti bomb or super archer blimp

[deep cradle]

you can still do sarch, the blimp just can't leave wardens range. and it was honestly never worth using warden when doing sarch anyways, just use a hound. Yetiblimps are more iffy

if you use your warden together with the blimp for Sarch hydra you need to place your dragons before the blimp has had any effect. And then you'll not get any funneling at all in the start of the attack and your army will split, negating most of the benefit sarch has

[deep cradle]

if it isn't automatically claimed it'll be converted into 50 gems

[winged kraken]

What other equipment then fireball is good for warden?

[deep cradle]

eternal is always decent, lifegem for low hp troops like hogs, miners & baloons. Ragegem for high hp troops in slower attacks which might have timefailing issues like RCC dragons, or for wardenwalks. And healingtome is for high hp troops for attacks which doesn't have a time failing issue

[winged kraken]

Alright thanks

[deep cradle]

this new update has added "appealing" infront of my dono accounts supercell ID lol

I can attest to it being that

[abstract quest]

i went from mister clam to HappyMrClam

[deep cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-yeah-im-happy-gif-15157412

although, it was the only account that got changed out of 17

what should I do with my dono account? should I keep it at -2 townhall so I can just donate max troops, or should I get it max th?

[sacred current]

How do I 3 star this as a th14?

[deep cradle]

you'll easily smash it with herodive superhogs

rc charge one scatter comp, herodive from eagle, and then superhog from the other scattercomp

[sacred current]

I don't have the electro boots equip for rc will it without it ?

[deep cradle]

oh, rip. It'll work, but rc won't get as much value

[deep cradle]

You also have the bug where the heroes in the attack are a different order than in the comp?

[abstract quest]

idk i haven't attacked yet

i'm still in school rn

[tiny kelp]

fuc all that

wtf is that army

do you know something i don’t

[deep cradle]

á la furnace spam

it's the strongest single troop army

[tiny kelp]

after dragón obv

[deep cradle]

nah

[tiny kelp]

yes

[deep cradle]

furnaces are alot more reliable

Its different from cloud to cloud

[tiny kelp]

what

[deep cradle]

warden in the first pic is 1st, second pic is 3rd

[tiny kelp]

oh

[deep cradle]

for no reason

[tiny kelp]

does it really matter tho

[deep cradle]

hawk, is this a known bug?

[languid raptor]

He just wanted to be with queen

[deep cradle]

yes, you get memory of what to press

so you might activate the wrong ability, which isn't great

[tiny kelp]

idk i be paying attention

[deep cradle]

since this attack includes a fireball and a rc charge + actual use of king & queen it's more deliberate and you'll know what happens

[tiny kelp]

send me clan link

[deep cradle]

it's basically heroes + army to help

[tiny kelp]

i wanna see it to work

[deep cradle]

This attack had a botched queen activation since its moved

and I'm using a comp which should have sneezy, but I don't have it since I'm not th17. And I'm taking the dumb risk of not having cocoloons

https://youtu.be/SUEi7686MwM

[livid reef]

Yo wus gud

[spare ferry]

has super cell released any codes for the event

i just need 15 medals

and i’ve finished everything

[livid reef]

idk

[deep cradle]

theres 100 on the website

[spare ferry]

why reply then

[deep cradle]

there was 100 on the website a week back also

[spare ferry]

…

[spare ferry]

oooooo

thank u very much

[livid reef]

just telling ya idk

[livid reef]

100 what?

[spare ferry]

L rage bait

[livid reef]

bruh

[deep cradle]

event medals... like the discussion was about

[spare ferry]

just claimed them thank u

[livid reef]

okay

[tiny kelp]

teach me it rq

im curious

plus seems fun

[deep cradle]

you have the video right there

I kinda fail 70% of what he's talking about lol

[tepid spear]

Good?

I figured this would be effective against so many armies

Especially Electro Dragons

[deep cradle]

2 tiles between things is what you do against E-drags yeah. But the base uses weird compartment sizes which doesn't flow, and is super reachable

no core defense should be reachable from the adjacent compartment

th11 has in general these kinds of compartments

10x10 compartments to include a 2tile spacer agianst E-drag & super wizard chains

and completely unreachable

[buoyant pasture]

Ohh 👍

[deep cradle]

there's a th11 building guide pinned in this chat

https://link.clashofclans.com/en?action=OpenLayout&id=TH11%3AHV%3AAAAAGAAAAAIzdlJ5XPUzMr9JR_q4kNIl

not that it really matters since that base in the link is amazing

it's all you need for the like month you spend at th11

[vocal nebula]

What are some good ways to funnel for RC charge dragons if I only have RC and warden up?

[oblique marlin]

What's better for attacking in war?

Rc with invis or yeti blimp with clone and rage?

[deep cradle]

doing blizz rc dragons

[marble pumice]

imo etomb nerf is almost nothin

[deep cradle]

you were lucky you didn't hit a black air mine straight after it left his range

then it would have mattered

[deep cradle]

rc charge is pretty much always better

[oblique marlin]

With just full invis I guess?

[deep cradle]

I'd do 9 to not timefail

[oblique marlin]

The thing is I only have e boots but no rocket spear

I could level up hog puppet but it's currently level 1 💀

[deep cradle]

rocket spear isn't needed, it's just that it's kinda the only option below th15

[oblique marlin]

I do have shield on level 9 or something

[fluid anchor]

1 singular month?

[abstract quest]

funniest part is i think th wasn't gonna go down

it would've gone down first if etome wasn't reworked

so maybe it is something lmao

[abstract quest]

yea i got the bug in fcs

why is my warden before king and queen

[woeful wave]

you can choose that now

same with troops/spells

[deep cradle]

No, its a bug

[woeful wave]

no its a feature

[deep cradle]

This is a single cloud press between

Ofc its a feature, but the feature being bugged is a bug

It changes the order of army and heroes randomly

[woeful wave]

then the feature is bugged

but its a feature now that you can select it

[deep cradle]

Yes... Its a bug

[woeful wave]

but the very first is correct

like the first time you search/go into an attack

so its only bugged in multiplayer i think

[abstract quest]

and fcs

[woeful wave]

alr

[woeful wave]

damn

[woeful wave]

there will be a clash of clans board game lol

[deep cradle]

Torch is on the Clash website. So do not spend any starry ore lol

It'll definitely release and get a hard nerf a month later though

although, I'm looking through the website and can't find that page anywhere

this link includes the same text, but the link has it removed from the actual site now

https://support.supercell.com/clash-of-clans/en/articles/whats-new-june25.html

[merry scaffold]

If i use warden at th 13 should i use fireball and Invincibility or what should i use

[deep cradle]

eternal is always decent, lifegem for low hp troops like hogs, miners & baloons. Ragegem for high hp troops in slower attacks which might have timefailing issues like RCC dragons, or for wardenwalks. And healingtome is for high hp troops for attacks which doesn't have a time failing issue

fireball is used for wardenwalks with ragegem, or for funneling purposes for which the only attack at th13 would be superwitches. But nothing else

[bronze bloom]

What’s like the best way to deal with these types of bases? As a th12

[thorn prawn]

Which air army should I use for the my th14 account? The problem I related to many and many different strategies.

[mighty hamlet]

this is not a base type
its trash
use "th12 island base" as a yt search

[bronze bloom]

Yeah but idk how to deal with it efficiently

Or effectively

[deep cradle]

just funnel and you'll defeat it with a stick

king with vampstache will get 40% and then timefail

[bronze bloom]

With like what main army

[deep cradle]

there's no specific army that deals with that as it's specialty

I guess the easiest attack would be to place heroes in a corner and then spam rocketloons at things

but like... the only army that I could see fail that is E-drags since they'll timefail

[bronze bloom]

Alright thanks 👍

[vocal nebula]

2 clones, a rage, and the rest invis spells?

[deep cradle]

4 invis or something for rcc, + recall. 5 invis + rage for blizz

13 spells

could give rc 5

it would give you clear funneling

[vocal nebula]

Ah no clones for wizard okay cool appreciate it

It’d be better to use rocket spear than haste vial if I’m blimpimg yeah?

[deep cradle]

if you use recall you should use rocketspear

is kinda the logic which I've gotten

[vocal nebula]

Fair enough

[deep cradle]

use a hound with the blimp and not warden

[woeful wave]

the pain is over

[deep cradle]

nice

6 months with heroes

[woeful wave]

good luck with that

[woeful wave]

im so glad, i was always the one with rushed heroes

[deep cradle]

for you

[woeful wave]

wdym

[deep cradle]

with heroes

[woeful wave]

ah

[deep cradle]

lol

I'm not gonna upgrade heroes except for mp normally throughout th17

[woeful wave]

yeah i dont have that many books

when there are new hero lvls coming with th18 im planning to upgrade them as fast as possible

[deep cradle]

and instead use some books, ofc gonna take a while. But 5 months of goldpasses, starting with 5 books this month (2 from pass & 3 from event) means I'll need to get an average of 3 books per month until th17

[woeful wave]

with or without books

[deep cradle]

and 3 books per month is feasible since I don't need to buy glowy ore anymore from events

[woeful wave]

this event im thinking what to buy

it will be either starry ore or shovels

[deep cradle]

I bought equipment, the starry ore, and 3 hero books

[woeful wave]

i dont have event pass

[deep cradle]

buy starry ore. It's not fun to sit in this situation

that's my remaining equipments... I can't spend a single glowy ore without starry ore

[woeful wave]

i just dont mind the high lvls

they have low impact

[deep cradle]

eh, ball, spear, action figure and mirror have nice buffs on 27

the others are kinda meh, but still. I'll be max on shiny and glowy ore in no-time with nothing to do with it lol

[woeful wave]

yeah but its not that worth it, figure might be the only one i max but not the others

[woeful wave]

yeah thats just how it is

[deep cradle]

another ball, another spear, 2500 hitpoints, 5 seconds & + 140 dps on the clones

[tender wyvern]

Goofy new defense

[deep cradle]

• the spear is then able to oneshot more defenses and the spears will get more in total

[abstract quest]

apparently fire beyblade will attack even if rc is invis

[deep cradle]

it does

[abstract quest]

lucky me the new splash defense will basically have 100% use rate

[tender wyvern]

It does

[deep cradle]

but all the ones I've seen have been low enough to not hurt alot

[abstract quest]

bye bye lalo

[tender wyvern]

Haha

[abstract quest]

when was lalo made

[deep cradle]

its so incredibly slow rotating that 4 baloons will get in its range if hasted without getting hit

[abstract quest]

lucky for u it's probably gonna have hard pathing

just like every other key

[deep cradle]

that'll ofcourse change if the tower is maxed, but from what I've seen most youtubers argue to max damage first and not the increased firing rate

and it takes 2 months to max

[deep cradle]

I've done like 40 attacks today, and for the bases that use it it's usually in one of these spots

or used on the side you'd wanna rc charge as it'll easily do half of foxes hitpoints

it's always firing, so you can do nothing to defend fox

th bomb + firespinner pretty much kills fox straight away

so, you can do that one one side like itzu showed, and then trap the opposite side. Although itzu has seemingly not discovered the nasty firespinner + th bomb combo

[dry oxide]

Hey guys I need help 3 staring this base for war

[deep cradle]

sarch blimp, land on eagle. And then follow up with hydra

[latent mesa]

Anyone else got different prices on their alt accounts for gems, offers etc?

And a few alta dont even have gems or offers available anymore

[abstract quest]

ofc it's in that spot cuz bases aren't built
for it yet 😭

it's like saying new th13s use trash layer scatters so that's meta

[deep cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/louisatism-funny-eyes-weird-eyes-gif-15108501

[deep cradle]

I myself love the trash layer whateverthenewdefenseiscalled placements

CD, customizable defense

[abstract quest]

we need new pds

weaponize army camps

[deep cradle]

I've destroyed 19 of them, so I'm soon getting an entire 25 gems

so few ppl have placed them down

[deep cradle]

make all mines spawn miners on defense, and elexir collectors elexir golems

pls one every 3 seconds with no cap so the entire map is covered

[woeful wave]

make xbow shoot black air mines per shot

[deep cradle]

hell yeah!

[woeful wave]

if its on air mode

and on ground mode it should shoot giga bombs per shot

[deep cradle]

ground only meta

[woeful wave]

.

good luck breaking through this

[deep cradle]

my planner has become lobsided

there's like 3 reqests in my clan for the ice block spell, and all are locked to max level XD

These achivements just being 200 gems feels a bit like a joke

both the firespitters & MGT's are 2k battles each

[mighty hamlet]

how much you expect for beating things after clash anytime update

[somber delta]

Does someone know any amry composition without royal champion for th 15?

[deep cradle]

same amount of attacks as:

and those are both 1k gems

[mighty hamlet]

you beat them earlier when you dont have an army that strong

[somber delta]

..

[deep cradle]

any army that doesn't include a rc charge

[somber delta]

Yeah but rc is also a crucial aspect in other armies which do not include rc charge so that's why I am asking

[deep cradle]

you can swag her in alot of cases anyways

[somber delta]

Well yeah but not in legends

[mighty hamlet]

what are you doing in legend at th15 with no rc

[deep cradle]

1. You really shouldn't be in legends as a th15 as you'll only lose trophies
2. You shouldn't be in legends with a upgrading hero
3. And how is RC the only hero upgrading, are all the others max?

[mighty hamlet]

1. is cap

[deep cradle]

you can use fb RL without rc and swag her in alot of cases

[somber delta]

No but I can't put all heros on upgrade at once

[deep cradle]

I mean sure, th15's can get up to like 5100. But if you don't atleast get 2stars all attacks you'll be out day one

[tender wyvern]

If u goated u can get like 5500

[deep cradle]

as a th15 nowadays?

[tender wyvern]

Yeah

[somber delta]

I am in legends from 1 month and still I am maintaing it around 5300

[deep cradle]

ok sure

didn't know that

[somber delta]

But since I have put my rc on upgrade which was the most main aspect so I just wanted to know any other army which do not include rc

[abstract quest]

just do an attack that doesn't use rc

so just don't use rc charge

simple as that

[abstract quest]

even mf fb roots with mp

[tender wyvern]

Oh ur pic has him lol

Nice

[somber delta]

Okay thanks

[mighty hamlet]

he finished 5,7 past season

[tender wyvern]

Einstein is goated

[mighty hamlet]

there were a dozen of 5,6+ finishes at th15

[mighty hamlet]

my friend, th13s finish higher

[latent mesa]

anybody knows how many days it takes longer to get maxxed th17 with the new update? the seasonal defenses excluded

[latent mesa]

Hows that possible lmao, doesnt just everyone 3 star you like

[tender wyvern]

Get 320 every day and pray for luck

Low legends is still easy for 15

[mighty hamlet]

having a lucky defence or disconnect is not impossible

[lilac tulip]

need help with a war attack need a good strat can send pic in dm of base i need to attack its TH16 and im TH15

if anyone can help will be much appreciated

[lunar pelican]

Day 7 its been a whole week not much progress tho today

[proper bramble]

Guys should I use queen arrow and destroy 2 air and a sweeper then use lightning to take 2 air and another sweeper

And Warden with e drags in the open spot in core

Bk with blimp on left side

I Wana try to attack it (I'm town hall 11)

[abstract quest]

why not abuse that hole in the middle

[mighty hamlet]

inferno towers are more dangerous to you than air defences

[tender wyvern]

You should not use edrags

[proper bramble]

I just said I will

[abstract quest]

basically everything is wrong

[abstract quest]

no u didn't

[proper bramble]

Well I'm kinda trash

[abstract quest]

oh wait

u did

whatever

don't spam edrags in the core

[proper bramble]

Lol then what

[tender wyvern]

Just use the blimp in the hole

[abstract quest]

u can like

[mighty hamlet]

i thought vityaz is supposed to be strong

[abstract quest]

yea

[proper bramble]

Just smth from a game

I'm to lazy to change name

With what tho

So if I don't spam e drags in core what do I do then

[tender wyvern]

Put the blimp in the hole

[proper bramble]

K

[lilac tulip]

anyone got a good strat for me in war i’m a th15 against a th16

[tender wyvern]

Put yetis in the blimp

[proper bramble]

Aight

[abstract quest]

smin blimp goes hard

[lilac tulip]

can’t post pic in here of base can dm

[mighty hamlet]

slavic for a brave warrior, hero
you should be the one

[proper bramble]

Its just smth in a game I use to play lol

Neve knew vityaz meant that

[proper bramble]

Damn only one yeti

[fossil gust]

ice golem or bowler could be good

[proper bramble]

Never used golden or Ice so I maybe would give it a try

[abstract quest]

loons

do not use bowlers or ice golems please

[vague spear]

Just went th16 today any suggestions. One builder on ricochet canon, another on multi archer tower, one on DE storage, one on GW and another on AQ. I've left one for walls since i usually like getting them done and out of the way

[tender wyvern]

Blimp a golem

😭 😭

[deep cradle]

the word "good" should not be anywhere near the word "bowler"

it's the worst troop in the game

[fossil gust]

zamn

even worse than valk?

[abstract quest]

hey don't talk about my bowler bounce like that

[abstract quest]

root riders

lmao

[mighty hamlet]

they just dont fit the high skill floor of the troop

[proper bramble]

Then what do I use in blimp I can only use one yeti

[hardy hornet]

Am I able to post an attack vid?

[deep cradle]

most army comps use 1 valkyrie

[deep cradle]

5 troop space and mortars are a threat

[mighty hamlet]

6 housing space

[deep cradle]

unless you have sent atleast 100 messages or have a role you won't be able to post even a image

and if you don't have nitro you won't be able to post a video longer than 3 seconds

https://tenor.com/view/discord-discord-wink-gif-21567505

[hardy hornet]

U could have a couple of builder huts nearer top just for more value with their heal, I personally prefer bases with a few more compartments as well just cos 1-2 wall breaker n decent funnel they can access the centre easily enough

[hardy hornet]

Ah fairs lol, I’d just done an insane attack n idk anyone who plays clash other than my clan to watch it

[mighty hamlet]

sometimes makes a good funneling
also a damage part in killsquads
not op but forgive him that

[deep cradle]

5 on heroes until they are done, or if it is cwl

[drifting adder]

I need a new attack strategy atm I blast 40 valks. I need a new ground attack that work? Any suggestions

[mighty hamlet]

40 valks

[hardy hornet]

Super yetis do business if u like spam

[tender wyvern]

Try supercells suggestion

44 miners

[drifting adder]

Thanks 😉

[deep cradle]

although... 40 valks with lifegem & torch

[mighty hamlet]

thought process of a th8 pusher

[deep cradle]

thought process of a th11 which puts a th8 troop restriction on themselves

[hardy hornet]

I just feel like there’s a risk tho with it

Ur funnel has to be perfect

N pray for poor trap placement

[deep cradle]

you can use valks for your funnel dw

[hardy hornet]

If u were to spam I think super yetis would be a better one especially if u blimp some yetis with clone spell u don’t need to worry about tough compartments or if u go for the th with em

[deep cradle]

and the only traps that will stop you will be springtraps since the valks would have 5110 effective health at th17

[hardy hornet]

Then again that’s why rc walk is insane

[tender wyvern]

You’d have to haste ur warden

[deep cradle]

oh, and torch adds 8 speed for some reason

which is a 62% speed buff for E-drags...

yay

67% for rootriders lol

[hardy hornet]

God I hate e drags

[deep cradle]

yes, because they are shit

[abstract quest]

supercell please don't release torch

[deep cradle]

if they released torch it would need to get like a 60% nerf a week later, and even then it'd be the strongest equipment

40% damage reduction is rediculesly stupid

[verbal barn]

Why

[deep cradle]

completely game breaking

it would make any army viable

[verbal barn]

Cool

[deep cradle]

a legit th17 army could be: spam pekkas in a corner

[abstract quest]

torch would even bring back lalo

[deep cradle]

3206 effective health for baloons is lit

and then you ofc iceblock your hounds

[hardy hornet]

Glad lavahounds are viable again

[deep cradle]

and then overgrowth the entire core for that sick rotation

they aren't

[hardy hornet]

With new spell

[deep cradle]

lalo completely died at th17, and no other army uses hounds in a tanking capacity

[hardy hornet]

Nah not lalo that died early th16

[deep cradle]

what

[hardy hornet]

An rc walk

With dragons

[deep cradle]

lalo is fully viable at th16, the only thing that died was queen charges

lalo is still the best attack at th16

th17 th defense and firespitters are the real issue

[hardy hornet]

As long as u can get the lavahound on a decently position air defence then freeze the lavahound u can clear through a base easily th17

With a successful rc walk to funnel the drags

[deep cradle]

ofc rcc dragons work, but that works even without a hound

the hound is a waste

[hardy hornet]

Depends on layout

I took one on which is what I wanted to show

Cos the hound freeze just tanked a monolith, air defence, firespitter, scattershot n some of th n other crappy defences

[deep cradle]

Lol, what a dumb UI change

[hardy hornet]

Let my dragons with warden rage rush through whole base n when my blimp got to the th yetis took em all easily

[abstract quest]

ads might as well be in the trash layer in this meta

they're behind 1 wall next to the trash layer hounds aren't tanking anything

still a buff but it's not that big

[deep cradle]

might tank a scattershot

for 7 seconds

but you can use the spell while its traveling from a AD to a AD, so I guess you can find a base with a stacked th compartment or something with the ads on that side closer together

or invis

[abstract quest]

yea either invis or pray

firespitters still exist tho

which sucks balls

[deep cradle]

and soon fidget spinner

[abstract quest]

lore accurate beyblade

[deep cradle]

emily posted this base

baloons getting that core would be almost impossible

[abstract quest]

i feel like i've seen a base like that before

[deep cradle]

flame spinner has this range

this is a circle

[rain zealot]

Loading image

There we go

[deep cradle]

GL to those baloons I'd have to say

and with every hit doing 400 damage

[rain zealot]

Why would you have balloons in the core there?

[deep cradle]

well, for a month when it's fully upgraded

we talked lalo for some reason

[rain zealot]

Ohh

I just got here mb

[deep cradle]

same thing against RC. That defense is constantly firing, and will hit fox every like 3 seconds for 400 damage at max level

[abstract quest]

cuz ur using mp in smash with 10 cocoloons

i did that at th12 and it was so funny and then i railed my own base and then i got mad

[rain zealot]

😭

[deep cradle]

shouldn't it be 2012-2024 since th17 released 25th november?

[runic mason]

Where would I put the gearup archer and cannon?

[deep cradle]

eh, if you move out the elexir collectors next to the army camps and then follow with the army camp you might be able to fit it between the army camps

[abstract quest]

emi said that he still saw some zap lalo in the game before

also 2025 hits harder so its better for the cause

[deep cradle]

if someone is mad enough to use zap lalo on th17, they are gonna be mad enough to use zap lalo on th17 + firespinner

[abstract quest]

they did it in hm too in a tournament

[deep cradle]

and ppl are probably gonna use mortar thingy in high legends agianst rootriders anyways

[abstract quest]

now guess who i never saw again

[runic mason]

Why do I have to move stuff?

[deep cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/just-wanted-to-fit-in-olivia-finch-frasier-i-wanted-to-belong-i-was-trying-to-follow-the-crowd-gif-12482602598838332903

[abstract quest]

in a higher th

[runic mason]

No?

[deep cradle]

I myself believe that anything is possible

[abstract quest]

if ur keeping it th9 then in a new base

[deep cradle]

oh, you mean the geared cannon & geared archer tower from builderbase

[runic mason]

Yes

[abstract quest]

tough work

[rain zealot]

Should have trapped better

Smh

[deep cradle]

they are just a converted cannon and archertower and will be in whatever location you have that specific archer tower or cannon

[runic mason]

Yeah, but I was asking the best places to have them in that base

[deep cradle]

they are really not as influential as you seem to think

they are maybe 5% better than the non geared variants

meaning jack-shit

[abstract quest]

u havent felt a good backend gat at low th yet

[runic mason]

5% is still better

[rain zealot]

Geared up defenses?

They don’t do shit

Especially in lower ths

[abstract quest]

mmm the rage bait

[runic mason]

Hmm so where would I put these bad defenses?

[deep cradle]

where they currently are

[abstract quest]

in a new bse

[runic mason]

What's wrong with my base?

[abstract quest]

ok tbf

its th9 ur cooked regardless

[mighty hamlet]

bad comps

[rain zealot]

Exactly

[runic mason]

Can you tell me what TH isn't cooked in this day and age?

[rain zealot]

Don’t even try defending

It’s pointless

Im being serious

[deep cradle]

th14+ aren't quite as cooked

[abstract quest]

th17 hm

[deep cradle]

th14 has like 20% more dps than th13

[runic mason]

Th17 is big stinky because no eagle arty

[mighty hamlet]

don't build for defending
build for rulesets
and fun

[deep cradle]

the ppl complaining about eagle being removed were completely wrong lol

this th defense is worth it, eagle didn't do anything anyways

[runic mason]

I'm just building to not be 3 starred so I don't lose as many trophies

.> the eagle doesnt do anything?

[deep cradle]

it has less dps than a multi target inferno... of which you have 3

way less

[abstract quest]

eagle is overrated and the game is too unbalanced to defend

[mighty hamlet]

i have the best th9 trophy bases ever built
and above crystal you gonna be 3ed in 9/10 cases

[abstract quest]

imo th12 is when u actually start being able to defend
against noobs

[rain zealot]

Nah eagle was bad anyways

The th defense is way better

And deals way more dmg

Eagle misses half the time

[deep cradle]

th12 & 13 were put down in the mud from nerfs though

[mighty hamlet]

against th11 noobs?

[abstract quest]

no th12 noobs

[abstract quest]

thats why i specified noobs

against ur average edrag spammer u can probably defend it

[runic mason]

I have a th14 that once this last th weapon finishes is being hammered to a th15

[mighty hamlet]

couple of balance changes ago th11 had more dps than th12 has now

[abstract quest]

or random ground spammer

the moment someone pulls out qc tho its over

[abstract quest]

fr?

i thought they nerfed both 11 and 12

[mighty hamlet]

yes

thats what i mean, th12 is weaker now than a th11 from couple of years ago

similar case to 9 and 10

[abstract quest]

oh ok

[rain zealot]

You don’t see a lot of those anymore

[mighty hamlet]

ask some1 like some1 about dps
its laughable

[abstract quest]

he builds funky asym a3

so makes sense

[mighty hamlet]

the only reason im not doing 9v12 3 stars in multiplayer is time fail issues

[deep cradle]

nerfs were kinda like this:

I'm proud of my illustration

[mighty hamlet]

epic illustration

[rain zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/sensational-gif-4975652

[deep cradle]

it's why some noobs have trouble against th14's suddenly

[runic mason]

I guess I'll be sitting at th15 for a year

[mighty hamlet]

i feel all small balance changes in.. suddenly single player campaign

[runic mason]

I am a little rushed

[mighty hamlet]

pure hate for builder huts

[deep cradle]

yay for + 600 dps while still being exactly as compact

[earnest cloud]

Which equipment should I upgrade?
Was thinking of Spiky ball or Fireball
But Fireball is tougher to use so Spiky ball it is?

[runic mason]

The builder huts add 600 dps?

[deep cradle]

120 each

dps that weren't there before

it's basically 5 additional teslas or something

[runic mason]

Yeah they do have very similar stats

[deep cradle]

• they heal

and have much more hp than a builderhut

[mighty hamlet]

it takes my thrower charge approximately two centuries to win a building with 2 builders healing it

[deep cradle]

you really shouldn't use fireball below 24 if you can have it level 24

and no, fireball isn't tougher to use. It's just that it isn't used in spam attacks as much

[rain zealot]

Spiky and action figure

[golden ridge]

Action alr good lvl

[deep cradle]

or wait with your starry ore and use it in 3 months on torch

which is the best option

[rain zealot]

It is

[earnest cloud]

Torch?

[rain zealot]

Heroic torch

Epic for the warden