home-base-strategy

[cerulean socket]

i have 4 furnaces from cc and troops eating the th 4 screens away

[golden ridge]

Yes ik I got ur point but the thing is the are stronger defenses at th16 and 17 that can increase the dps by alot only on one side

[whole leaf]

My th17 is nuts

[golden ridge]

Rico and M AT

Firespitter can snipe which makes it easy to make it like an aggressive air sweeper without air

Which means it can take on one side with other defenses to snipe

The troops

[thick eagle]

th17 is a lot harder to 3 star than th16

[golden ridge]

Ik lol

[whole leaf]

I agree

[golden ridge]

If the th17 is fresh it isn't

[whole leaf]

Most people struggle to 2 star my base

[cerulean socket]

Isnt that obvious? 😭

[thick eagle]

i don’t often 3 star th17 cos i’m bum.:.

only 80%

[cerulean socket]

Common sense people

[thick eagle]

only 1 in 8 attacks i do lol

[whole leaf]

It takes more skill to 3 star different th17 with consistency

[tender wyvern]

Hopefully the examples gave you some ideas of what to do on next base

[golden ridge]

Yea but What I'm saying is that it makes it easier on th17 because u can put it firespitter Aiming on one side or Rico as tank plus firing

[tender wyvern]

It’s a lot harder on 17 actually

Because you have too many core defenses and not enough walls

[golden ridge]

Is it cuz of the lack of defenses?

Normal ojes

Ones*

Not core

[whole leaf]

My walls a max th16. I do that last now.

[tender wyvern]

Nah less normal isn’t too bad to build around

It’s the lack of walls with so many keys

[golden ridge]

Makes sense

[whole leaf]

Pointless walls are at th17. Everyone using air attacks

[tender wyvern]

At 15 you still have less keys so you have more walls to make each key more protected

[whole leaf]

My base is anti air

[golden ridge]

U need to still take it into consideration because u might get attacked by ground armies

At any point

[cerulean socket]

rr warriors rise

[tender wyvern]

There’s always at least one ground hero

So walls will always be useful

[golden ridge]

Aq or bk

[whole leaf]

Yeah but more people use air defences so better off to sticking to an anti air base.

If more people did ground attacks then I would use an anti ground.

[golden ridge]

U need to do a bit of mix cuz if u place ur AD at like a mini tank that's not good

Also yes there's always 1 ground hero

Either aq or bk

Aq can do so much to one side of the base

[golden ridge]

What do I do with rr then

Not SWB

[whole leaf]

My base kind already is a mix

[golden ridge]

rr are tanky what can I do to wear them down

Maybe bait defense

High hp defense

While other def are attacking them

[golden ridge]

Would u use the Eagle as bait if u were th16

[cobalt hemlock]

Scatters pt multis mono

[golden ridge]

I dont have pt

Only rage tower

[cobalt hemlock]

You should get them it’s only level 2

It’s worth it

Best spell tower of the three

[golden ridge]

Yea they r annoying to attack against

[golden ridge]

I've seen single inferno does a good job on wearing down heroes if un careful

[cobalt hemlock]

Yeah for sure but an unreachable core multi or 2 shreds everything

[cerulean socket]

i always try to rc charge after the multis

for air attack

[golden ridge]

Multi what also

[cobalt hemlock]

Multi inferno tower

[golden ridge]

1 single and 2 multis?

[cobalt hemlock]

Yeah

[cerulean socket]

depends on placement

[cobalt hemlock]

For the most part

[cerulean socket]

some bases use 3 multis

[cobalt hemlock]

True

[golden ridge]

Single does a quite phenomal dmg as well

[cobalt hemlock]

I like single one side mono other

[golden ridge]

Once it locks on

[tender wyvern]

For rr

Pathing >>>>

Try to have them path in and out of comps

And in and out of the base

And split off

Etc

[golden ridge]

Whats comps also

[tender wyvern]

Compartment

[golden ridge]

Oh

[cerulean socket]

i mean yea but usually you shouldnt be in that situation. you want ur army stacked together 99% of the time

[golden ridge]

K

[floral nebula]

im returning to the game whats cc defense meta

[tender wyvern]

Ice golem

Furnace

[golden ridge]

Ice golem

[tender wyvern]

Super minion

[golden ridge]

Both

[tender wyvern]

But mostly ice golem

And furnace

[floral nebula]

thanks 👍

[cerulean socket]

i do ice golem furnace for mine

[tender wyvern]

2 IG 1 Furnace 1 HH 1 Arch

[cerulean socket]

saw some do witches

[golden ridge]

They get destroyed if they r stacked and facing pt and scattershot

[tender wyvern]

Best cc no cap

[golden ridge]

Plus the mono

[cerulean socket]

mono i always take skeleton spell

[golden ridge]

Scattershots and multi inferno

[tender wyvern]

It still distracts

Usually

[golden ridge]

Yes

Ik

[tender wyvern]

Sometimes unlucky rc lock

[cerulean socket]

ur point was about single inferno. thats why i always path rc into multi inferno

if i dont act like a boomer with my haste timing

atk is won before i deploy my army

[whole leaf]

@golden ridge I have used a base where I had eagle as bait.

[tender wyvern]

Base building is a tricky thing. Best way to learn is to copy “good” bases by hand to get a feel of what the builders are doing. And then start moving stuff around and using comps that worked

Then posting for reviews

Probably built hundreds of bases before I built a “good” one

[cerulean socket]

i just see what people cook and i copy

[tender wyvern]

Or you can do that

[golden ridge]

I try to make my own base lol

[tender wyvern]

The benefit of learning bb is that everyone needs you

Never a lack of clans to join in comp if you’re a bb

[cerulean socket]

i usually try to look at boom academy base building

they are by far the best in the pro scene

when it comes to base building

[golden ridge]

I find artistic bases harder to make cuz of making the pictures visualized by walls

[tender wyvern]

lol those are the easiest for me

I love me some walls

[cobalt hemlock]

I just find images online of what I like and make it

[cerulean socket]

i use a goofy showcase layout

lool

[tender wyvern]

Oh yeah you wanted a FragzZ huh

[cobalt hemlock]

This pusheen I made was from an image of a plush on Amazon

[tender wyvern]

Cute

[cerulean socket]

yes please

[golden ridge]

Or just make a progress base lol

[cerulean socket]

Zz Tho

[tender wyvern]

Which ones better

[cerulean socket]

2nd z is the small one

[golden ridge]

First serpent

[tender wyvern]

I thought so

[cobalt hemlock]

Yeah I like 1

[tender wyvern]

So sad

[cerulean socket]

1st

[dusty flume]

Y’all talented

[cerulean socket]

Found it on a random website
Been rocking it forever

[golden ridge]

Before rr I saw some upper legends use like 21 loons

[dusty flume]

Mines just a ram

🐏

[cerulean socket]

my decoration placement is byfar one of the worst ever too

[tender wyvern]

I collect decos

But I hate placing them

I like base clean

Maybe 1 deco if it fits the showcase base

Like for an eye or smtg

But poison tower op for e ye s

[cerulean socket]

i keep the trees and cakes for all since some are rare

[cobalt hemlock]

Rl is different from regular

[golden ridge]

I mean reg loons

[cobalt hemlock]

Interesting

[cerulean socket]

what was the first anni cake again?

4 or 5?

[tender wyvern]

Zap Lalo exists at th17 still

Zap sui lalo

[cobalt hemlock]

Unless it was lalo I couldn’t see someone using that many regular loons

[cerulean socket]

ive a 5 idk if theres a 4

[tender wyvern]

Still very valid

[golden ridge]

Also how much layers of walls to keep off consistent swb breaking the walls

[cerulean socket]

you mean how many layers before swb can access whats behind?

or break to whats behind

[golden ridge]

Yes

[cerulean socket]

idk if you do layering

[golden ridge]

To keep that off

[cobalt hemlock]

Ideally you learn how swb ai works and then learn how to build walls

[cerulean socket]

i dont think youi can do enough layers

usually yeah you mess with the ai

thats why some bases have openings

so ai target the 2nd layer of walls

not the outter

[cobalt hemlock]

Open compartments small compartments with surround walls 5x5 etc

Honestly it just takes time and practice to learn how they work

[cerulean socket]

someone just attacked me with 24 reg loons lol?

[cobalt hemlock]

It gets confusing sometimes

[cerulean socket]

its low legends tbf but still

since we were talking about it

[cobalt hemlock]

Lalo or nah

[cerulean socket]

nah

[cobalt hemlock]

Goofy

[cerulean socket]

its an ugly army

he got a 58%

deserved

[cobalt hemlock]

Lmao

[cerulean socket]

24 loons 6 electro

1 super drag

[golden ridge]

Yea literally only casuals attack Me

[cerulean socket]

5 freeze

[cobalt hemlock]

But is rr rc charge deserving of a 3 I think not

[golden ridge]

They use random ass armies

[cerulean socket]

hey man. my shooting skills isnt good enough to do fb

too much focus

i like to afk 7 3 my rc charge

[cobalt hemlock]

Valid

I’m leveling fireball now but I hate how slow I’m getting starry

[cerulean socket]

only time i lockin is when i haste but then i get hit with a tornado trap so i look away

[golden ridge]

Tornado and seeking air mine are like the only useful traps

[cobalt hemlock]

I need so much starry

[golden ridge]

Maybe giga bomb too

[cerulean socket]

i only have 3 equips left

and all 3 are key

[cobalt hemlock]

They all have uses

All traps are useful

[cerulean socket]

snake bracelet- mirror- giant

only 3 left but leaning towards bracelet tbf

[golden ridge]

I mean the most efficient on messing up a main strat

[cerulean socket]

i dont use queen that much

[golden ridge]

Or drag seeking air mine hit drag

[cobalt hemlock]

Use sb with gb for rc, use spring for valks in rr attacks, air bombs clumped for loon clone, use sams for blimp or healers

[golden ridge]

Whats sb and gb

[cobalt hemlock]

Small and giant bomb

[golden ridge]

Bout the giga

At th16

I think

[cerulean socket]

isnt it 17?

[cobalt hemlock]

Giga is only 17

[golden ridge]

Not sure

Yea bout giga is it used near town hall

[cobalt hemlock]

Giga is honestly used more for bait

[cerulean socket]

i mean giga is there to mess with my fox

[golden ridge]

It deals like 1500

[cobalt hemlock]

Just the fact attackers can see it makes it so easy to use as bait

[golden ridge]

That's kinda alot

For a trap

[cobalt hemlock]

Giga one side other traps other side

[cerulean socket]

ye

tornado is like a gamble

[cobalt hemlock]

Yeah

[cerulean socket]

sometiems u see same base alot u know

[golden ridge]

Tornado is annoying when it works

[cerulean socket]

sometimes people put them so randomly

i legit have a relationship with activating haste and nado

the second i click

[cobalt hemlock]

Happens

[golden ridge]

Whats nado

[cobalt hemlock]

Tornado trap

[golden ridge]

Also some bases have holes in them lol u can just deploy some troops to get rid of town hall

They really need to watch out on their bases

[cerulean socket]

holes are so outdated

[golden ridge]

I still see them

[cerulean socket]

with rc walks its just ugly

or a test troop

people now have both

air and ground cleanup troops

its just ugly. and pointless. but yeah they are around

[golden ridge]

It messes up ur defense base

I 3 starred one I think bcuz there was a hole

[golden ridge]

Whats a good cleanup if there are low dps defenses around

[fleet swift]

?

[cerulean socket]

i use baby drag. 2 minions. usually have an inferno dragon left and 3 archers

i use 3 inferno drags for funnel

[golden ridge]

Didn't think inferno drags r used lol

[cerulean socket]

and ofc using barracks help overall with time issues

[golden ridge]

I never see them

[cerulean socket]

let me share

[golden ridge]

I have used e drag for funneling

High hp

And chain

[cerulean socket]

https://link.clashofclans.com/en?action=CopyArmy&army=h4p10e12_40-0p9e32_14-2m1p11e4_34-6p4e42_43i1x1-3x150-2x75d1x9-1x10-1x17u3x1-1x23-11x8-1x12-3x63-2x10-4x57-1x150-2x75-1x91s11x35

stole it from logan lol

its very effective and easy attack to use

[golden ridge]

Oh yea I don't got inferno drags unlocked so what r they used instead of?

[cobalt hemlock]

Yeah I could tell

[golden ridge]

I cant see them cuz I haven't unlocked them

It says 295 housing space

[cerulean socket]

hey its a good one!

[cobalt hemlock]

Nah Logan’s chill and he’s pretty good

[golden ridge]

Cuz it's drags lol

[cobalt hemlock]

I don’t like furnaces much

And I’m too lazy to boost baby drags

[golden ridge]

I prefer those to funnel

[cerulean socket]

furnaces are for th or cleaning up

furnace for th is only th17 thing tho

[golden ridge]

Are the inferno drags used to cover the remaining 45 housing space?

In ur army

[cerulean socket]

i mean pretty much sbarbs would do same job

baby drags have the edge on dealing with heroes thats all

[cobalt hemlock]

Too lazy for those also xd idc that they are 250 dark rn

[cerulean socket]

idk what u can see

[golden ridge]

Everything except inferno drags

[cerulean socket]

yes 45 are them

3 of them

[cobalt hemlock]

3 buttons too much

[cerulean socket]

at least do the achievement

250 times

hahaha

[cobalt hemlock]

I’m at 100 something

I don’t wanna click that many times

For barely any gems

If I want gems I’ll spend some real money 🤦

[golden ridge]

How do I reach the champion builder achievement everyone just spams night witches 🤦

Builder base e drag

[cobalt hemlock]

If you can’t beat em join em

[golden ridge]

I use power pekkas

Lvl20

[cobalt hemlock]

Same

Although I cba to play a ton of builder base

Only do it for clan games

[golden ridge]

Same lol

I play it barely

Aight time to make a base

[cerulean socket]

Builder ew

[latent mesa]

I found an inactive Champion 1 CWL Clan, anybody down to build it up and play next CWL?

[tender wyvern]

[dreamy burrow]

"Found"

[cerulean socket]

“Found”

People dont find c1 clans in thr trenches often

[latent mesa]

its literally called "clan war league"

idk

anybody down?

[golden ridge]

Rate the layout

Might have messed up by putting too much walls

[golden ridge]

@cerulean socket what do u think

I might have messed up this time

Yea i guessed so

Time to make another one 😭

[cobalt hemlock]

The top multi is reachable from the first compartment

[golden ridge]

I think I messed up this time

[latent mesa]

yeah?

[cobalt hemlock]

Mono reachable from every other compartment

[golden ridge]

Prob the worst one I've done lol

Too much walls is not the key ig

[cobalt hemlock]

At least you’re trying

[golden ridge]

Yea lol

[cobalt hemlock]

A lot of people give up

[golden ridge]

Nah. I want to make my own bases instead of copying and call it a day

[tender wyvern]

I think it’s an improvement

Not in the sense that it’s good

But in the sense that you’re actually working towards something now and I can tell

Even though it’s bad

But the wall efficiency is atrocious here 😭

Show me this inspo

[golden ridge]

Arguably the best one I've done

This is arguably the best one I've done @tender wyvern

[tender wyvern]

Town hall reachable from every side. Mono reachable from every side. Infernos reachable from every side. Eagle reachable from 3/4 sides

[golden ridge]

Oh nvm then

[tender wyvern]

😦

[abstract quest]

this defended luka 😭😭😭

[golden ridge]

Man I'm kind of having a problem with making them unreachable

[tender wyvern]

Give each key defense

Its own compartment

And make that compartment unreachable

From every side

[cerulean socket]

i would love me some goblins on those storages right now

[tender wyvern]

Start with that and build off it

[golden ridge]

How? By adding tank buildings and walls?

[abstract quest]

no

[golden ridge]

Eagle supposed to be a tank

[abstract quest]

by just putting space between ur building n and wall

[golden ridge]

K

[golden ridge]

@tender wyvern hows this one

I made sure to follow the single compartment thing

[tender wyvern]

The intentionality is better but note that the walls aren’t done properly and reachability is not completely denied

Yes the single compartment thing I noticed the intentionality

[golden ridge]

So is it a "good" one

This layout

[tender wyvern]

It’s better

But

For example the eagle is still reachable

Needs 1 more space

[golden ridge]

The reachability of some buildings is denied almost completely

[golden ridge]

Other than the Eagle

Anything else?

[tender wyvern]

I also wouldn’t have everything reachable from the core mono comp

Time to add deadzones

[golden ridge]

Like what

The mono itself isn't is it

What to do then

[tender wyvern]

Like this

Is what I mean

[golden ridge]

So the base is mid but the concept is almost done? @tender wyvern

Base layout of mine

[golden ridge]

Ok so is there a base design other than this thats good? Cuz putting multiple buildings in a compartment seems like a bad idea

[tender wyvern]

I’m not sure what you’re asking by that

There’s plenty of good ways to build a base

But my example there also only has 1 building in each compartment

[abstract quest]

mid assumes average

so no

but the ideas there

do u have the image for reachability

[cerulean socket]

i mean tbf he isnt far away. he just needs to understand reachability

once he does it will click

[abstract quest]

there's more to th15 than reachabliloty

partially why i hate th15 building

[cerulean socket]

th16 it makes more sense

once u merge

[golden ridge]

So single key defense compartment SURROUNDED by defenses?

And not inside the comp?

[abstract quest]

just have ur keys unreachable

where the other defenses are can be ignored for now

[golden ridge]

Yea but that solves some things but rr swb and rc are still a problem

[abstract quest]

u aren't able to get reachability right yet i don't wanna throw pathing onto that too

cuz pathing is aids

i mean i have some screenshots for it

emi gave me

[golden ridge]

I do get it now. Its like putting a key def in a single comp surrounded by defenses like some bases which have encircled single inferno but the problem is the ones who jump over or ignore/break walls

Are the ones*

[abstract quest]

that's not regarding reachability

it's purely "can queen shoot this"

[golden ridge]

Yea but when I do it another problem comes

Like for example

Most reachability for keys is done

[abstract quest]

u shouldn't have a problem arise from making something unreachable

[golden ridge]

That's not the problem

[golden ridge]

Like what's still missing in this base

?

I got reachability but so what is missing in that base

[abstract quest]

hold on

ye

there u go

the "rings" are how u want roots to path

it should be hard to get into the core

[golden ridge]

Ohhh so u want to waste as much time as possible to distract the rr from going to the core?

So the rr would go to the nearest defenses

and then eventually the core

[abstract quest]

not "eventually the core"

u don't want anything in the core

i mean u can have pathing into the core

but it depends from base to base

[golden ridge]

Hm let me copy a base and u can explain better that statement

[tender wyvern]

Also more practice will get u better wall efficiency

Bc rn ur walls are everywhere

Double layer walls are pretty inefficient usually

[golden ridge]

Nvm clash fanatics bases are prob outdated

[abstract quest]

can u explain core pathing

[tender wyvern]

Usually you don’t want stuff to path to core

Bc that’s where your most important def are

And core is also where most things are reachable usually

[golden ridge]

That's what I said lol @abstract quest

[tender wyvern]

But

Depending on where you place ur most important keys

Core pathing can also be valid

You can intentionally path something through core through a high dps zone for example, where the pathing leads through core with say… huts and sweepers… and the keys are unreachable

[golden ridge]

So that means wasting as much time for the attacker to go around the base right?

[tender wyvern]

That’s a big aspect of it yes

[golden ridge]

Before getting to the core

[abstract quest]

no u said eventually the core

[tender wyvern]

You also wanna try and deny RC access to core

Bc an RC gutting a core is bad

[golden ridge]

I said wasting as much time for the attacker

[tender wyvern]

Let’s you just walk around the rest of the base

[abstract quest]

imma do this for my th12

[golden ridge]

Yea but can't u counter this by guiding ur army to the core with overgrowth and invis spells?

[abstract quest]

u said that too

[abstract quest]

any wasted spells is a W

[golden ridge]

Yea that's what I mean

[abstract quest]

it's similar to a qc

[tender wyvern]

You can but if you didn’t do this the attacker could use a rage instead of an OG

You can’t counter everything at every stage of the base

[abstract quest]

it's impossible to make a base that cannot be qced but if they waste spells that's a win already

[tender wyvern]

You just have to try to make the attacker burn things and make mistakes

[golden ridge]

I mean like guiding them to the core by overgrowth and invis the rings u said

[abstract quest]

making them have to waste invis or og on that is better than them not having to use it at all

[tender wyvern]

Yes but if you didn’t make the rings then they wouldn’t have to use an. Overgrowth

= 1 more spell for attacker to chose from

Or 2

[golden ridge]

Ok yea true true

[golden ridge]

Which means the core might be heavy which means the rings might defend well to avoid a 3star right?

After the core is gone

[tender wyvern]

It’s all a balancing game

You defend one thing it has weaknesses to another

lol

Bb in today’s meta is atrocious

Should’ve started a couple years ago

[golden ridge]

I did lol but didn't bb I just copied bases

[golden ridge]

But I want to learn to bb cuz I want to make my own bases and not copy

[abstract quest]

massive W

[golden ridge]

It's not bout the efficiency of copying a base its just bout fun

Of bb

[abstract quest]

most of the time the copied bases suck too 😭

[golden ridge]

Yea the ones I copy from are literally outdated

Invis is just too op

Fits in any damn army

Even used as a better freeze

Carrying broken walks like rc or fireball ing the core

It's all invis

Back to bb

[pliant sparrow]

Has obstacles stopped spawning?

Haven't removed them from a month

Because there isn't any

[cerulean socket]

mine spawn fine. but only when i have showcase base up

[pliant sparrow]

Can you plant some in mine too?

Too much deforestation going in world and supercell isn't giving me trees

[cerulean socket]

i gotcha bro. ill come by to water them seeds

[pliant sparrow]

Very nice of you and your attitude towards the environment 🤗

[golden ridge]

Rc walk wouldn't work without using invis lol

[golden ridge]

It's clash if

Of

Clans

[cerulean socket]

what

[golden ridge]

It wouldn't

[cerulean socket]

well no shot

thats obviously lol

[golden ridge]

I know lol so it's all invis

Invis makes it happen

[cerulean socket]

well i would say rc does

if you use invis on any other hero wouldnt work as well

[golden ridge]

Both but invis makes it possible

[golden ridge]

U can use invis instead of freeze even

I do that

[cerulean socket]

freeze is better mostly

unless u take 1 invis as spare

beside rc charges ofc

[golden ridge]

Well instead of freezing 5 defenses why not just invis the army

???

[cerulean socket]

freeze duration

[golden ridge]

Yea but the effectiveness differs

Invis does it to the army But freeze needs quantity

[cerulean socket]

i dont use freeze neither invis so idk. never been in a situation that i need to

[golden ridge]

What do u use I dont remember the spells of ur army

[cerulean socket]

11 invis

earthquake skeleton poison

[golden ridge]

Yea

For rc walk ig

[golden ridge]

Eq for activating the town hall isn't it

[cerulean socket]

it just does alot of dmg

i usually do th yeah and surronding defs

[golden ridge]

Oh yea that too

[cerulean socket]

helps rc clean up fast with haste

since thats uaully close to her falling down

[golden ridge]

So atleast carry 1 eq with every army ig

[cerulean socket]

for rc yes

otherwise wouldnt bother

[golden ridge]

I also use invis to guide my troops to a certain path

[cerulean socket]

overgrowth is ur friend then

if you need redirecting

[golden ridge]

Only for large scale redirecting

I use invis to cover the army and redirect

Overgrowth for redirecting everything

And freezing the defenses

For 20+ seconds

I do use overgrowth tho

[golden ridge]

Damn it so quiet here

[feral totem]

how can i stop raids being 100% nearly every time on my base?

[cobalt hemlock]

build or find a better base

[heady sun]

Use gems to buy shield or build a bettrr base

Even building a better base might not stop attacks

[golden ridge]

@cobalt hemlock ?

[cobalt hemlock]

your usage of walls is very interesting in maybe not the greatest way but in terms of reachability its doing okay

realistically your scatters shouldn't be so easily reachable from the other compartments and the ground xbow in the core is definitely interesting

[golden ridge]

So finally a decent one?

[cobalt hemlock]

ehh not exactly

its an improvement

but you have basically no dps for a qc at the 6oc

[golden ridge]

Wdym 6oc

[cobalt hemlock]

your value spread isn't the greatest because the dps is inconsistent across the base

6 o clock

the bottom side

where the eagle is

your ea compartment doesn't have enough dps to deal with a queen charge

[golden ridge]

Bout the th compartment

[cobalt hemlock]

no very good against flame flinger from the right top side

not*

yes you have a tesla, but any good player will just check with a loon or smth else

[golden ridge]

Um there's a ground xbow

[cobalt hemlock]

i said right side

[golden ridge]

For flame

Oh

[cobalt hemlock]

the ground bow is on the other side

[golden ridge]

Oh ok

[cobalt hemlock]

flame on gold mine i think avoids xbow

[golden ridge]

So does it need some change or another base

[cobalt hemlock]

or even 1 ice golem to tank

yeah it would need some editing

[golden ridge]

So best one I've done?

[cobalt hemlock]

you should isolate your key defenses more

yeah i would say its better than the other ones ive seen

[azure fiber]

@golden ridge check out #8GU09JQQ0

Its my 15 its a decent set up

[golden ridge]

K

I'll check in a sec

[golden ridge]

Where do I put the scatters

Ea comp?

[cobalt hemlock]

realistically they should have their own dedicated comp with ground xbow or something else and use the mutli-infernos for core

[golden ridge]

Also is the mono in a good place

[cobalt hemlock]

its good to have the mono in the core

but the way you built around it is not ideal

you made it very easy to get to the center with a barb king eq boots

root riders would easily destroy this base because of how you setup your defenses

[golden ridge]

Hm

[cobalt hemlock]

you took reachability into account somewhat, but you ignored how troops path

its important to make it hard to get to your key defenses

ie scatter, infernos, mono

[golden ridge]

Ok so reachability done now its pathing

[cobalt hemlock]

yeah i think you get how reachability works for the most part

you could still use some work on it

but pathing is really important for keeping your core defenses up

[golden ridge]

But pathing there are a few deals

Eq boots

Fb

Rr

Etc

[cobalt hemlock]

yep so you want to use defenses in specific places to make them path differently

[azure fiber]

Rc charge too

[golden ridge]

I dont know how to lure that out

[cobalt hemlock]

look at these two different bases, ignore the second one not being a complete image

see how there are different layers

gimme a sec ill draw it out

[golden ridge]

Does it matter if the town hall needs to be activated or is active auto like th17?

[cobalt hemlock]

for th15 it somewhat matters but not a lot

depends on base layout

[leaden pilot]

I'm bit rushed th14 and I alr have electro boots and now I have 1550 gems so should I buy fireball vs rocket spear vs spiky ball or should I invest in lab assistant etc to fix my base I alr have 5 builders.

[cobalt hemlock]

this is a very very very basic way of how layers work

the green is the very very core here, away from all other defenses

in between the blue and green is the 2nd layer of defenses

hard to get to with core defenses but still helps things like rr path around the mono and not into the mono

[golden ridge]

So honeycomb looking type of bases

[cobalt hemlock]

then the red is basically trash

[leaden pilot]

@cobalt hemlock can you advice me

[cobalt hemlock]

spiky ball or fireball is your best bet, but depends on what attack strat you want to use

[heady sun]

What army u use

[golden ridge]

Cuz this one looks like a honeycomb lol

The base

[leaden pilot]

Currently using rc walk with invis and drag spam with blimp

[cobalt hemlock]

you don't neccessarily have to use this type of base

[abstract quest]

ur comps are either oversized or have too many keys

[cobalt hemlock]

its just as inspo/decent reference

[heady sun]

Rockey ia also very good if he is going for rc charge

[abstract quest]

especially that core

treat scatters like a key as well

[golden ridge]

K

[cobalt hemlock]

ig neither of those are needed for drags, but if you were to do a diff attack what would you want ot use

[heady sun]

Get rocket sphear

[cobalt hemlock]

rocket spear is only okay

[leaden pilot]

I would think of super witch

[leaden pilot]

Ohh okay thx mate!!

[cobalt hemlock]

fireball then

[heady sun]

Rocket + electri best for rc walk

[cobalt hemlock]

only below th15

[leaden pilot]

Ohh okay thx mate!!

[cobalt hemlock]

fireball and switches go really well together

[heady sun]

Ya he is th 14 thougj

[cobalt hemlock]

is it worth 1500 gems though

[heady sun]

Do u get rage vial at 14 or 15?

[cobalt hemlock]

when the others are much better

[leaden pilot]

Yaa so rc walk not good above th14?

[heady sun]

Ya true lol

[cobalt hemlock]

if you mean haste vial, th15

[heady sun]

It is

[heady sun]

Oh yeah that mb

[leaden pilot]

Okayyy

[cobalt hemlock]

rc walk is extremely good with haste

but rocket spear is more limited

its good but its more base dependent

[heady sun]

Ya

[leaden pilot]

W8 lemme share u my base

[heady sun]

@leaden pilot whats ur main go to army?

[leaden pilot]

This is it

[leaden pilot]

drag spam and rc walk

[heady sun]

Do u have giant gauntlet?

[leaden pilot]

No

[heady sun]

U use bk or minion prince?

[leaden pilot]

Should I invest those gems in my base?

[azure fiber]

Minion

[leaden pilot]

Bk

[azure fiber]

Use minion prince

[leaden pilot]

Ohh okay thx

[golden ridge]

Hoe do I counter rr without pt

[heady sun]

@cobalt hemlock wouldnt spiky will be nice then?

[golden ridge]

How*

[cobalt hemlock]

not a great village if you wanted to use it for wars, but i can't tell you what to do for a home village

[heady sun]

For funnel.etc

[cobalt hemlock]

giant bomb bait is about it

[cobalt hemlock]

spiky ball is really nice

[heady sun]

Not really i prefer bk

[leaden pilot]

Yaa

[cobalt hemlock]

but its between that and fireball

[leaden pilot]

On air attacks?

[cobalt hemlock]

fireball is part of a core attack strat

[abstract quest]

pathing

[heady sun]

Ya for funnel

[cobalt hemlock]

whereas spiky ball is not as critical

[azure fiber]

@heady sun if your doing rc walk dragons use minion over bk and use ac with puppets and giant arrow

[abstract quest]

keep rc from funneling and keep roots away from keys

[golden ridge]

How does that work

[abstract quest]

it doesnt

[cobalt hemlock]

a bunch of bombs in the same spot to deal massive damage to her, mainly for spirit fox thoguh

[abstract quest]

unless ur th16+ it doesnt

[leaden pilot]

Okay guys I think I made my decision thx for the help!!

[golden ridge]

Oh I said rr

[cobalt hemlock]

oh mb

[heady sun]

Ya but he doesnt use super witch his main army is drag so i suggest rocket or spiky ball

[golden ridge]

Cuz of giga bomb ig

[cobalt hemlock]

he said as a 2nd army he might use switches

[golden ridge]

Nvm

[leaden pilot]

Yaa

[heady sun]

His eqm are on lvl 1 i dont wanna invest in him rn

[golden ridge]

I keep forgetting giga bomb is th17

[cobalt hemlock]

against rr its hard to do too much except for create hard pathing

[heady sun]

I will give it a try though

[golden ridge]

Does pt change anything major

[cobalt hemlock]

yeah it slows them down even further

makes it easier for your core defenses to take out supporting troops

[abstract quest]

no

[cobalt hemlock]

rr without valks/heroes/other dps is useless

[abstract quest]

th16+ those bombs kill fox

but th15 u dont kill rc

[leaden pilot]

Is builder apprentice worth?

[golden ridge]

I forgot Its on th17

[cobalt hemlock]

yeah th15 you just need to place defenses in specific areas to bait rc pathing

ie teslas etc

[heady sun]

To lvl 5 or 6 ya

[golden ridge]

So a base can be effective against 1 thing but will always have a weakness

[abstract quest]

or just have obvious pathing but pray the attacker sucks

[abstract quest]

yes

[cobalt hemlock]

correct

[leaden pilot]

Ohh okay!

[golden ridge]

Ok so

I'll need an anti air base.

I keep getting raided by e drags drags and stuff

[abstract quest]

any decent base will hold against just airspam

[heady sun]

@leaden pilot if u are planning to stay on th 14 and max it and use dragons invest in spiky or rocket if u think u would go to next th in 1 or 2 month invest in spiky or fireball

[golden ridge]

U mean good core buildings?

High level core def

[abstract quest]

any good base in general

[golden ridge]

Cuz I'm kinda rushed

[abstract quest]

yea

[golden ridge]

Smh my attackers suck and cant 3 star my base

[leaden pilot]

Ohh okay m not thinking to max it as it is not my main acc

[golden ridge]

Alr so can u send an example of anti RR

Base

With no pt

[abstract quest]

"with no pt" kinda sucks

[cobalt hemlock]

don't have any from me

[abstract quest]

ptower is the best spell tower

[golden ridge]

Don't have it unlocked

[abstract quest]

then upgrade it

[golden ridge]

My builders busy

[cobalt hemlock]

also playing a game with friends so going afk on discord

[abstract quest]

then finish those upgrades and then upgrade it

[golden ridge]

@abstract quest u got one?

[abstract quest]

no

[golden ridge]

K

[abstract quest]

because not having ptowers sucks

[golden ridge]

I'll just make the rage as pt but not use the base

Until I unlock pt

Guess not

[graceful dew]

o/ If I'm planning on using rc walk drags or rc walk root riders, would rage gem or healing tome be better to upgrade for warden

or fireball

but that seems rly risky and idk

im already using rc walk + giant arrow so i feel it wont get as much value?

[golden ridge]

@cobalt hemlock wait so should I do each layer instead of doing the inner core and stuff?

When basebuilding

[cobalt hemlock]

i place the core defenses, then do walls and check reachability

then everything else

[golden ridge]

How about the opposite placing the trash layer first

Then going in

[cobalt hemlock]

you can

[golden ridge]

I need a solid base to keep these casuals from 3 starring me atleast

[cobalt hemlock]

up to you

[abstract quest]

do not

[graceful dew]

why not just copy a random one off YT lmao

[abstract quest]

absolutely do not

[abstract quest]

loser

[graceful dew]

fr

[golden ridge]

I like to make my own bases

[graceful dew]

fair enough

[golden ridge]

Why?

Whats the difference

[abstract quest]

why would u choose to start with the trash layer instead of the core which matters way more

[graceful dew]

anyone know what to invest in xd

[heady sun]

True

[golden ridge]

It's the same thing u put the trash on the most outer part

[abstract quest]

just start with the core

why would u feel the need to start with the layer that's literally called the trash layer

[heady sun]

Healing tome is always a reliable option

[golden ridge]

Idk but tbh the bases I make don't let casuals 3star me so regularly and the bases I copy are ass

[heady sun]

If u know what u gonna go with defences sure go with trash first if u want

[golden ridge]

Getting 3 starred constantly if I use copied bases

[heady sun]

Generally trash layer is put in the end for better understanding of what u gonna do

[golden ridge]

They prob outdated or smth

I'm not gonna lose 23 trophies every 12 hours

That sucks

[graceful dew]

i mean thats pretty good

[graceful dew]

i gain too many trophies lmao

[golden ridge]

When I use the base I create then it's either 1 or 2 star

[graceful dew]

hey props to u man

[golden ridge]

But copied its either 3 or near

[graceful dew]

i could never design a good base lmao

[dreamy burrow]

healing tome >>>

[golden ridge]

Might be the best one I've made

@cobalt hemlock

[graceful dew]

take this with a grain of salt but maybe the bottom compartment swap the xbow and top wizard tower?

[cobalt hemlock]

infernos reachable from th compartment

[golden ridge]

I mean the town hall part has strong defense

[cobalt hemlock]

irrelevant

[golden ridge]

The multis are supposed to protect the mono

And stuff

Honestly I think this is the best one ive made

Maybe a bit of editing

But other than that

[cobalt hemlock]

@abstract quest help, im busy with a diff game rn lol

[graceful dew]

what trophy level are you at rn?

[golden ridge]

Titan 1

[graceful dew]

ah nice

what do u get attacked by usually

like

strategies

[golden ridge]

And I still get ass players

Attacking me

[graceful dew]

root riders? edrags?

[golden ridge]

Its mostly air

Never seen one with rr

Player that attacked me never use root rider

[graceful dew]

interesting

i may have to learn a new attack strategy with the eternal tome changes lol

thinking of rr

[golden ridge]

@azure fiber

[golden ridge]

Why this chat ded most of the time

Rate this layout is it good

[mighty hamlet]

what is this core
why you have 3 key defences stacked

[graceful dew]

haste vs rocket spear for invis rc?

[golden ridge]

Multi inferno supposed to protect mono

The fact that there r way different ratings from different people lmao

[golden ridge]

Both work

[graceful dew]

yea but which is better lol

thinking rocket spear maybe

[tender wyvern]

1 - don’t rage mono it doesn’t get much of a boost from rage
2- infernos should not be reachable with the mono

[golden ridge]

If u want to get deep into the base then haste

[golden ridge]

So where do I place the infernos

And is it a good layout? Best one I've done atleast imo

Multi supposed to protect the mono also

And other things

[mighty hamlet]

just because you are going in right direction compared to your previous ones.. doesnt mean this one is good
what would be your definition of good? to get to whats usually good in base building, you gonna waste weeks and even months with practice

[golden ridge]

Yea but it's probably good to keep off casuals from 3 starring me

I'm not talking about competitive good bases

[golden ridge]

Ik I have no shot with those

[mighty hamlet]

to defend casual players with op spams you dont just need to have casual experience, but all-round base building experience and casual too

[golden ridge]

Man the bases I build defend from casuals getting 3 stars

My attackers are ass

So I'm asking is it good in general not with meta

[mighty hamlet]

that was the point, how do you define a good base
casual players will hit that or fail without regard of your actual base quality

[golden ridge]

Eh when I copy bases I get 3 starred more frequently than when I build them

[mighty hamlet]

depends on where you copy them
and your trophy range
and a lot of different things

[golden ridge]

I'm titan 1 lol.

And my attackers still ass

Like I'm near 4900

[mighty hamlet]

titan 1 is low

in fact its a farming league today

[golden ridge]

Low compared to LL upper

But higher than the casual % I think

[mighty hamlet]

fake legend is where most th15s in the game are

[golden ridge]

Bout real legend

[golden ridge]

Let me check smth

[mighty hamlet]

three hundred th15s finished previous legend day above 5,5

[golden ridge]

Only 300 damn

The comp number is so low

[mighty hamlet]

what is your personal best then

[golden ridge]

Comp players

[golden ridge]

5000 smth yk I'm rushed so

[mighty hamlet]

comp? its just regular playing

[golden ridge]

I mean competitive player count

Is low

[mighty hamlet]

who is competitive players for you

[golden ridge]

Upper legends players

[mighty hamlet]

to push you surely need to be good, but its far from competitive

unless you are visible in leaderboard without scrolling to the bottom

[golden ridge]

So top 50

Top 200

[golden ridge]

I would push but I'm just rushed and my hero levels are ass

[mighty hamlet]

probably below that too
but it would be an exaggeration to say people who push are too serious about it and not just have close to max accounts and play the game for a long time

[golden ridge]

Damn looks like clash of clans isn't an hard game in ranking

Unlike some fps shooter games

[mighty hamlet]

what do you want from a farming simulator that doesnt really try to be a strategy anymore

[golden ridge]

That's why they should nerf shi

Root riders and invis literally are so overpowered

[wise pollen]

Show me screens of y’all bases

[golden ridge]

Why

[wise pollen]

Because I wanna see it

Rushed

[mighty hamlet]

i open coc like 1-2 times a week
not gonna do that rn

[golden ridge]

No shi

[wise pollen]

Your very bad?

[golden ridge]

Lol

I'm not

[wise pollen]

Oh

[golden ridge]

Rushed doesnt mean bad

[wise pollen]

But you are

Ma’am

[woeful wave]

Show your base then

[golden ridge]

Bet ur a casual

Mr lauren

[wise pollen]

I can’t

[golden ridge]

Th11 e drag spammer

[wise pollen]

Laurens*

[woeful wave]

Then dont flame people here

[clear wadi]

Yo

[mighty hamlet]

thats not a bad thing
and most people are

[wise pollen]

Bro what

[clear wadi]

Can someone tell me if my layout is good

[wise pollen]

You’re the crybaby here?

[clear wadi]

Or is there a channel for that

[golden ridge]

Doesn't mean he should flame people lol

[golden ridge]

Yea u can

[woeful wave]

You say that the guy is rushed and bad

[clear wadi]

Rushed ik

[golden ridge]

Also wth is this

[woeful wave]

Its a funnier version of this 💀

[wise pollen]

Yeah I don’t care

[clear wadi]

And is my layout good

[wise pollen]

Your base is trash too

[golden ridge]

Ur th11

[wise pollen]

Yeah

[golden ridge]

So shush

E drag spammer

[wise pollen]

Dawg your town hall 9

Dumbass

[golden ridge]

💀

I'm th15

[clear wadi]

Go get ur eyes checked buddy 💔🥀

[golden ridge]

Ur clearly blind

[clear wadi]

I lost braincells reading that

[mighty hamlet]

that doesnt look too far from th9

[wise pollen]

No shot

[golden ridge]

Oh do I get it u asked for base so u can try to bait

[golden ridge]

The town hall isn't

[wise pollen]

Your bombs are town hall 2 kid

[golden ridge]

Bro ur th11

All u do is spam e drags

[woeful wave]

Exactly his plan

[wise pollen]

😂

These kids are crazy

[golden ridge]

Lmao

The amount of ragebaiters here

Phenomenal

[woeful wave]

Yeah lets just move on

[wise pollen]

Tik tok master

[golden ridge]

What army u use btw

[wise pollen]

Find a job

[golden ridge]

Lol atleast my core Defenses are high level

[mighty hamlet]

i know i was just joking

[woeful wave]

I change them a lot

For last cwl I used mainly rc rr

And one time super witches

After that I started upgrading heroes again so I mostly attacked with sgobs

[verbal pivot]

Avg Superwitch enjoyer

[woeful wave]

Then I did fb rl because I have my warden ready

Now also my rc is back and yesterday I did rc charge syeti

Today im doing switches again

[heady sun]

Supercell should allow heores in fc even if they are upgrading

[woeful wave]

Yeah i wished for that too

Well, at least they let us choose our own cc now

[gritty dust]

Yo guys, does anyone have th 16 was base for a rusher account to counter 3 stars?

[heady sun]

U cant counter 3 star as a rusher

[gritty dust]

Not very rush but mid rush

Just something to hold decent not must counter every war

[heady sun]

Idk look at clashchamp app

[nocturne siren]

Every blimp players dream

[full salmon]

im trying to push to legend league, as a bit rushed th16.
BK - lvl 58 - eq boots, spiky ball, vampstache at lvl 8
AQ - lvl 61 - healer puppet 15, giant arrow 12, frozen arrow 13
MP - lvl 48 - all equipment like lvl 5
GW - lvl 48 - fireball lvl 13, rage gem lvl 9, eternal tome lvl 9
RC - lvl 26 - electro boots 14, hog puppet lvl 10

lvl 10 unicorn and other pets like 3-5

whats a good army?
currently using rc charge with hydra and/or drag spam depending on how i feel

[unborn rain]

what in the war base is this?

[unborn rain]

i used GoWaPe when i was pushing for legend 🚀

[full salmon]

no poison towers 🥹🥹

[nocturne siren]

ik, it's so perfect I shed a tear 🥹

[full salmon]

also th17 so no giga bomb 🥹🥹

[nocturne siren]

A perfect one, for example the fire spitter top left is perfectly positioned for armies coming from the southeast

[full salmon]

BUT the fire pooling may mess you up if you have bad timing

[nocturne siren]

TBH I could just spam drop e-yetis and clones and call it a day 😆

In the middle

[full salmon]

true

[nocturne siren]

There's even a gap where u can deploy next to the th

[full salmon]

but thats slightly less skill

cant show off i can time my invisibilities every 4 seconds

[nocturne siren]

True HAHHA

[full salmon]

oh yessss

drop a few troops to trigger traps

[nocturne siren]

But seeing his base get obliterated in 30 secs is so tempting

[full salmon]

walls arent upgraded 💀

rushed af

[nocturne siren]

What's the fastest way I can 3 this BHAHAHA

Currently I think it's just dropping e-yetis + clones in the middle and watch the destruction

[full salmon]

yeah

use e yetis as main army

and then have different cc troops

so u dont waste seige machine

[nocturne siren]

• fireball + mirror + spear and shield + spiky ball

[full salmon]

YES

[nocturne siren]

Or maybe GA HAHA

[full salmon]

imma make an army

call it

GoEyYeVaWiWiHeGiArBaLaLoHyDra

[heady sun]

And its gonn 49% witb 0 stars at max lol