home-base-strategy

[cerulean briar]

and instead of buying a lavaloon you could buy a spiky ball f2p. with the ore events..... thats value imo. and you still would save the 1500 gems

[deep cradle]

You are at a severe disadvantage attacking wise without the best equipments, and spending ore on equipments you'll never use once you've gotten the epics is such a waste

[cerulean briar]

sure.... but he has to build eternal tome, healing tome, fireball, giant arrow, healer puppets, e boots

all of those have priority over spiky ball imo. and that list goes for at least 3 months considering daily ore

so buying a spiky ball NOW is not a good gem investment.

[deep cradle]

King gains so much from spiky ball that that statement is comical. And you ofc dont upgrade one heroes equipments? You upgrade all

[cerulean briar]

not to mention its epic equipment.... .extremely expensive while you could upgrade 2 normal equipments to max lvl with the same rss

[cerulean briar]

your argument is based on common sense, my argument is based on his account and personal data

and I agree with your point.

i just would like to reiterate the fact that for his account, today, its not a good choice.

[deep cradle]

Because the normal equipments are bad. The only normal equipments that are used in total is: Eq boots, healer puppet, Warden equips, and haste vial

[cerulean briar]

great observation

he just need to upgrade all of them

and arguably all of the normal equipments you mentioned, have priority over spiky ball

[ruby glen]

nah no way

[deep cradle]

You are spewing horseshit lol

[ruby glen]

youd put eq boots over spiky?

ive only been playing for two weeks with equipment and even i know the spiky ball is goated

[cerulean briar]

i dont have to do that choice. but back in the day I focused first on queen and warden equipment before king.

[deep cradle]

And rc is pretty much useless at th13 & 14 without rocket spear

[cerulean briar]

i dont see anyone mentioning rc

but honestly

either way

its just a 3 month struggle

problems will be fixed by themselves

with time and ore

[deep cradle]

Look, theres a reason low townhalls tournaments >15 have completely banned epic equipments. Its that they are game breakingly strong

[cerulean briar]

dude

i am not arguing against common sense

[deep cradle]

You clearly are as you are against buying epic equipments with gems.

Which is the only sensible thing to do

[cerulean briar]

i am giving advice for a very specific person, with a very specific problem on a very specific decision

i am against HIM buying epic equipment for him now, with no ores in stock, and with plenty of important equipments unlvled

[deep cradle]

And you are suggesting spending 1500 gems on saving 2 days of builder time a month instead of getting significantly stronger at attacking?

[abstract quest]

boots 💀

[deep cradle]

Noone has ore stocked

[cerulean briar]

at what level will spiky ball be good?

15?

[abstract quest]

it's <15

[deep cradle]

Equipments are leveled with time, and that goes for commons as well as epics

[deep cradle]

Better than the alternatives of barb puppet & rage vial at maybe 9

Compared to max

[cerulean briar]

better alternative imo is a eternal tome

lvl 12 rather than lvl1

[deep cradle]

You cant use eternal tome on king

[cerulean briar]

and a rage gem lvl12 would be pretty good too

[cerulean briar]

yay you got the point

[vivid hazel]

Based on the ~ 133h, 1000 gems for 1h sped up, the break even is at 133d which is a little bit more than 4 months, from what I’ve seen on Reddit, it’s much more than that like 600 days

[deep cradle]

But significant worse than ball would be

[cerulean briar]

king is less important than warden for th13.

and his warden gear is trash

so i would rather have him focusing on warden

that is free btw and takes time and will be used forever

[vivid hazel]

If we purchase magic items and those stuffs instead

[deep cradle]

Compared to the best alternative of spending gems, Goblin builder. Finishing upgrades with gems is BY FAR the worst usecase of gems

Which is what that dude said

[vivid hazel]

So that makes the cost of the assistant lab and the apprentice builder crazy expensive

[cerulean briar]

its crazy expensive to max. the first 4 lvls are usually affordable

so you have a 50% stat for 25% of the value

[deep cradle]

Maxing a account in this game takes around 4 years, and by that point 4 new townhalls have appeared. You spend gems once for the epic items, and gets the usecase once.

[vivid hazel]

Yeah right, I mean first few levels based on the guide is affordable and worth to buy

[deep cradle]

Even if 600 days thats just 2 years lol

[vivid hazel]

600 days per 1000 gems so 1 level xD

[deep cradle]

Which is tiny compared to what you'll end up spending in the game

[lethal heart]

your math isn't very good

[deep cradle]

No? Thats not the calculation

[vivid hazel]

Is it ?

https://www.reddit.com/r/ClashOfClans/comments/1h07fsi/should_i_upgrade_the_lab_assistant_the_real_math/?rdt=40615

[cerulean briar]

ligga is goat

[deep cradle]

https://clashofclans.fandom.com/wiki/Builder's_Apprentice

[deep cradle]

That post is frigging discussing the lab assistant bruh

Ofc doubling lab time is better gem value than just a 50% boost

The number for when builders apprentice breaks even against Goblin is 488 days if 6500 gems are spent

[cerulean briar]

average goblin enjoyer

always causing ruckus online

[vivid hazel]

Yeah but that’s pretty much the same idea, mb haha

[deep cradle]

I managed to miss my rage on my sarchers XD

[untold granite]

hastings fellow goodboy

[cinder silo]

super archer blimps when it's 0.1 ms inside the th17 radius

[abstract quest]

my base got tripled by edrag spam

bluh

[cerulean briar]

i have ores to upgrade either eboots, fireball or spiky ball to 24. which one is better first?

[abstract quest]

twice in a row

[cerulean briar]

happened with the base layout you gave me yesterday

its a signature of yours

[abstract quest]

yea

its that base

[abstract quest]

im tryna trap it but these people are weird and my backend turns into frontend

[abstract quest]

can u send the replay

[cerulean briar]

how?

[abstract quest]

screen record it

[cerulean briar]

[abstract quest]

im not too sad if it gets tripled its a silly base anyway

[cerulean briar]

copy this

[abstract quest]

ew

[cerulean briar]

double multi inferno rage

op as f against drags

[abstract quest]

(gets tomed)

i can try it

[cerulean briar]

usually they will tome the eagle or th

with blimp

[abstract quest]

ive mostly been doing multi scatter or ptower

[cerulean briar]

either way this current layout im using is great

[abstract quest]

ok idk how i can run that against roots

cuz thats more of a core setup and i need a way to split roots and valks

[abstract quest]

flame flinger

[cerulean briar]

turns out most early th15 are scared of doing root riders

theyre too used with drag and air shi

[abstract quest]

already maxed mp

[cerulean briar]

and flingers aint that common

[abstract quest]

bro i need gems so i can buy another war slot

[cerulean briar]

yeah

too bad gemmies are scarce nowadays

so much shi to spend on

[abstract quest]

imma be trying sym box

brb

[rocky elk]

is the lab assistant worth upgrading

[cerulean briar]

depends on how much other stuff you alr have

[abstract quest]

i hate this setup

[cerulean briar]

gear, account, builders

[rocky elk]

I feel like it takes forever to research…

[cerulean briar]

[abstract quest]

its impossible to make pathing into multis hard with that

its so annoying

[rocky elk]

I got 5 builders already and some epic equipment. I’m th11

[rocky elk]

I heard ppl are saying it’s a waste of gems tho so idk

[cerulean briar]

i mean

short term vs long term value

[rocky elk]

ig it’s prob worth for ppl who aren’t nearly maxed

[cerulean briar]

or how much other stuff you have

[cerulean briar]

i mean, its good for people who will play activelly for years to come

[rocky elk]

Tru

[cerulean briar]

someone said the break even happens at like 500 days

[rocky elk]

💀

[cerulean briar]

but lab is the biggest queue you will ever face

specially on higher ths

[rocky elk]

welp

[ornate hollow]

sym stinks💔

[abstract quest]

ik

just stronger than asym a3

[cerulean briar]

some people like books for 500gems on the shop for heroes

[abstract quest]

i hate sym too its just its not as good

[cerulean briar]

but idk man. i am not sure myself. Im slowing upgrading my helpers. specially now that I can sell all the potions, wall rings and everything from pass and raid medals

so I get gems quite fast

[fast gulch]

@ornate hollow

[cerulean briar]

but I have all equipment unlocked.

[fast gulch]

no

[cerulean briar]

and Im pretty confortable with my account

[ornate hollow]

HII

wth u came outta nowhere

[fast gulch]

zorzorzor

[ornate hollow]

HAHA

hola

👋

im not hardstuck th13 anymore 💔

its time for me to move on and just progress

[abstract quest]

im doing th15 rn

[fast gulch]

haiii :3

[abstract quest]

its what someone in bb server said

[cerulean briar]

send pics

[abstract quest]

asyms not as good

[ornate hollow]

but ill always have th13 accs

and bases

[ornate hollow]

of what

[fast gulch]

im still hardstuck 12

[ornate hollow]

wow

i just came back to thegame

after years

a year

or two

[fast gulch]

oh lol

[cerulean briar]

peak edrag spammer

[fast gulch]

no :p

[abstract quest]

isn't it still true for th12

[ornate hollow]

@cerulean briar whatd u want pics of

[fast gulch]

@ornate hollow @ornate hollow @ornate hollow i got t12 pro

[ornate hollow]

fr?

congrats

o:

[abstract quest]

or at least it's easier for that than weird funky asym a3

[fast gulch]

not rly

[cerulean briar]

you gonna finish the layout soon?

im about to go sleep.

[abstract quest]

i scrapped because i hate that setup

[cerulean briar]

i can wait for a few mins

[fast gulch]

ig if u do a3 u can use it a lil longer but inturn u gotta spend more time on it too

[abstract quest]

and u gave me like 10 minutes bruh

[abstract quest]

a3 or asym

[cerulean briar]

its chill im just asking

[fast gulch]

a3 asym

[cerulean briar]

if its like 15 or so

[fast gulch]

ig just asym

[cerulean briar]

a3 what?

[abstract quest]

even asym box?

[fast gulch]

asym has more entries to test

[fast gulch]

yea

[abstract quest]

oh

how do u bait sym

cuz you'd need to spread ur traps out and that makes it worse right

[fast gulch]

sym isnt rly sym

[ornate hollow]

in sym u just put all traps in one side

and gamble

lol

[fast gulch]

ur traps are still asym and value too

[ornate hollow]

thats why its so bad

[fast gulch]

nah thats just every 1hit format base ever

sym isnt bad anymore :p

[ornate hollow]

what changed

[fast gulch]

ppl just got better

[ornate hollow]

guess so

[fast gulch]

ig that was back then when sym had 1 super obvious entry that youd trap the shit out of but ppl aint dumb anymore

sym isnt rly sym cause hero altars and such r still diff and that still makes all the difference

[abstract quest]

so how do u bait sym

do u just choose one side and put traps there

[fast gulch]

u might have the same depth weakness on both sides of the base but only 1 side is worth abusing because that one has queen for example

[ornate hollow]

i think before aq was more prio

yea

so they go for her

[fast gulch]

mhm

thats what ur looking for

[ornate hollow]

warden doesnt buff anymore

does he

in def

[fast gulch]

no

[ornate hollow]

o

okay

worth to replace him w minion prince

or whatevr

[fast gulch]

theres minion prince tho and he changes the balance too

nah bk is dookie usually

unless he protects aq

[ornate hollow]

hes just atank

[fast gulch]

warden does hit hard still

[ornate hollow]

lol

[fast gulch]

bk?

[ornate hollow]

tbh yea

whats meta attacks

still lalo

or

[fast gulch]

obv

[fast gulch]

what th tho

[ornate hollow]

general

15-17?

upper ths

[fast gulch]

smash is rly popular at th12 rn ig but i cant tell anything more

not up to date with other ths

[ornate hollow]

i need to find a new attack once wwe troops are out

💔

[lethal wolf]

What is the best bk kit for root riders

[untold granite]

quake spikyball

[empty wolf]

Quake ball

Shit emptys a whole compartment

[lethal wolf]

Thanks

[abstract quest]

@tight fern i watched suzume

its so good 😭

i teared up a few times

[tight fern]

damn

i'm watching apothecary rn lol

at ep 21 tho 🙏

[tight fern]

i'll check that out once i'm done with apothecary diaries

[abstract quest]

oh i dropped that

[fossil goblet]

Do I use edrags against this?

[abstract quest]

it got kinda boring

[tight fern]

fair enough lol

[abstract quest]

why does that look like it's missing stuff

[tight fern]

it would be nice but i think drags and loons are better for it

[fossil goblet]

It hurt my brain too

I reached TH11 4 days ago yet somehow I'm the highest weighted TH11 in my clan

[fossil goblet]

Zap drags into the Eagle then?

[tight fern]

yuh

[fossil goblet]

I'll take Slammer as my siege cc but what to take in it

[tight fern]

the outer air defense u can probably take it out with a hero

[tight fern]

all loons is what i usually get

[fossil goblet]

I think the 8oc AD I can use to Arrow 2 of the ADs then zap the others

I can also use BK and try to funnel him into the 2oc AD to save zaps

[tight fern]

yuh u could do that

u could like use a giant arrow

and 3 zaps 1 eq for one ad

then the last you worry later

[fossil goblet]

Actually it's 2 zaps 1 quake at th11

[tight fern]

ohh okay

i usually just use 3 zaps in th11 without eq

i think that's enough?

[fossil goblet]

It is

It's uhh

1440 damage I think and th11 ADs have 1300 hp

[latent igloo]

I need good air base for town hall 14

[tight fern]

ohh okay thank you

[fossil goblet]

Zap Drags absolutely smoked him in a minute and a half

I got my Eternal Tome to 9 and that 6.5s invuln let me straight up ignore the single infernos when I got them into the core

[tight fern]

YEAHHHH

[naive dagger]

Im TH 14, should i use electro dragon or dragon? Or a combination of both?

[bronze bloom]

Are the wwe event troops available for cwl?

[celest drum]

What are you gonna say now? Haha noobs

For all the haters who said my baby dragon strategy wouldn’t work in war

[jolly drift]

man's using rage spells like haste

[celest drum]

Yeah you clearly don’t know how to play this game do you? 😂

[jolly drift]

sadly no 💔

[celest drum]

Yeah it’s okay, yesterday I had to deal with a lot of noobs like yourself but it’s fine

We all start somewhere

[woeful wave]

💀

@runic flax @peak pier

Not a single shovel used for those money in the bank obstacles

[celest drum]

What did you think of my attack slade?

Did I make you proud??

[woeful wave]

It was not good

[celest drum]

What wasn’t good about it

I got a 3 star

[empty wolf]

How do I keep roots from going to outer base defence

[celest drum]

Funnel obviously

[paper ermine]

for cwl - are there any 20v20 option? did not check on it as we always have 15v15. now we have more active members but cannot afford 30v30

[sleek thunder]

Nope. Only 15 and 30

You can have substitutes in cwl though

Just switch some people out and make sure everyone gets 8 stars for full medals

[paper ermine]

ok thanks

[peak pier]

Dayum

Mine are all over the place

[rustic dagger]

Can anyone help me out ???

[celest drum]

Yes, pro coc player at your service

[rustic dagger]

Wanna take it to DMs I feel like it might be a while

[celest drum]

🫡

[woeful wave]

Queen and siege barrack at the outside

[woeful wave]

At least theyre on the outside and not in the base

[woeful wave]

Just ask here, i dont think that guy youre talking to will be a big help

[rustic dagger]

He was very helpful

If you can help more then sure

[rustic dagger]

so I am a leader of a cr clan and my discord server wanted to have a coc clan I am not familiar with growing a clan out for coc and I just made the clan today and jsut wants some tips for growing clan or whatever tips I be needed

[deep cradle]

honestly it's pretty much impossible to grow a clan from scratch, you have the help of friends from clash royale. But ppl kinda depend on cwl medals for things, so it's almost impossible to get ppl unless you are at atleast clan capital 9 & at a somewhat decent league in clan war leagues; unless you can easily grow with alot of th17's etc ofc.

it's the sad truth of it

[woeful wave]

Yeah

Only thing you can do is to be active, do back to back wars and try to max the clan capital by maybe doing raids in other clans and contribute the gold to yourself

[wanton maple]

Finally decided to put my doubts aside and practicing with the Giant Arrow, man I never realised just how good it is

giant arrow + healer puppet may just be my favorite AQ combo (I’m an air attacker)

[rustic dagger]

Ya that’s what am doing

[rustic dagger]

Yup I am aware

[woeful wave]

Yeah thats the default queen equipment for air attacks

It can also work with action figure + giant arrow

But thats more specific and not necessary

[wanton maple]

I was so off put since I doubt my own skills and don’t wanna let the clan down, kinda have a similar mentality with the fireball even though I know how much insane value they give

Glad I’m able to break those doubts down, it’s so good

[woeful wave]

Yeah thats important

[wanton maple]

heard about that combo, it’s gonna take awhile for me before I have the action figure maxed

[woeful wave]

I know what youre talking about, thats why its good to practice in multiplayer and against your own bases

[wanton maple]

gotta get my ruler out in front of my Ipad whenev I’m using the arrow 😂

[woeful wave]

Yeah you dont have to level it just for that

[woeful wave]

😂

[woeful wave]

On an ipad its already easier i think, im playing on phone

But i dont use garrow so its fine

[wanton maple]

I hear it’s gonna be the new meta but mainly for ground based attacks

for like mass RR armies are gonna love it

[woeful wave]

Yes its good for ground attacks, thats why I level it rn

[deep cradle]

I use garrow for farming lol

I've done like 700 practice runs this month and I'll never once touch it for a serious attack

[deep cradle]

giant + mirror is crazy strong (if there isn't a monolith)

[woeful wave]

What do you farm with it, resources or buildings

[deep cradle]

resources mostly

nice bit of DE sniping when you are decreasing trophies

[mighty hamlet]

did you already achieve hitting mathematically impossible garrow shots

[acoustic forum]

What next

@deep cradle @woeful wave

[peak pier]

Is there an updated guy to spirit fox rc charge?

Guide

[acoustic forum]

Updated?

U just need to count the invis and fox timing

[peak pier]

After the nerf

[acoustic forum]

The nerf doesn't affect it much

[peak pier]

Yes that’s what I’m looking for

[acoustic forum]

Just search on yt

[peak pier]

All I can find are 4 month old vids

[acoustic forum]

Ok then wait someone will tell you the timings

[tender wyvern]

Just count

[acoustic forum]

this

Go into a friendly challenge and note down the timings

[peak pier]

It’s not for me, it’s for a guy in my clan

I’m just a th13

[woeful wave]

If you start rc at the beginning throw invis when clock has a 7 in the seconds line 2:57, 47, 37 etc

[peak pier]

so I was looking for a vid to send

[acoustic forum]

He should know it then lol

[woeful wave]

Just do whatever you like now

[acoustic forum]

Hog puppet looks good

But I'm gonna save for haste vial because i like it

Is haste vial good at th15 without spirit fox

@woeful wave

[peak pier]

So an invis every 10 seconds😳

[woeful wave]

Yes

[woeful wave]

Depends on the attack

But most prefer hog because of the safety

[woeful wave]

The fox and your rc will always be visible for a short time but thats just how it is now

[spare mortar]

any th15s in here

I need an attsck this dragon blimp stuff ain’t working for me

[cosmic escarp]

What's the issue you have with it

[spare mortar]

I don’t three star lol

Just doesn’t suit me

[cosmic escarp]

Got any replays?

[spare mortar]

I would like to try the super barb heros one but can’t find army

[woeful wave]

Then learn something better

[spare mortar]

That’s why am aksing

[woeful wave]

Super witch smash, hero dive super hogs, qc also still works, etitan smash, rc rr/dragon

[cosmic escarp]

https://youtu.be/-UAiLiQUthM th15 era video; will be pretty poor when it comes to uphits cuz of merged defenses but it gets counterbalanced by equipment

It still involves a sarch blimp

[woeful wave]

Thats not that strong anymore i think

[spare mortar]

Thanks

[cosmic escarp]

Works well for equal th but struggles against th16s and up

Or at least that should be the case

[spare mortar]

I’ve seen people using it recently but not as much as used to be used

[cosmic escarp]

There's also fireball rocket loons/furnaces which has a similar concept

[woeful wave]

I mean i think it should still work but it lost some strength

[cosmic escarp]

Heroes and siege machine doing most of the work, with most of the army serving as cleanup

For fb rl you want a high level fireball tho

What's the minimum needed to destroy th15 eagle with 2 eqs?

[spare mortar]

Mines level 14

Which isn’t high enough

[cosmic escarp]

Ye, checked it out and it's 21

Ideally it should be L24+

[spare mortar]

Yep I’ll work on upgrading it

[cosmic escarp]

The absolute bare minimum you can get away with (enough to oneshot L4 scattershot which is the 2nd highest hp defense) is 17

You ain't that far

I've been decently successful with a level 15 fireball uphitting th15s as a th12

(enough to oneshot L2 mono, if it won't get healed by builders)

[acoustic forum]

Should i do hog

It gives +2 levels jump which is crazy

[hallow pond]

Hello I am just th 13 how should I start upgrading so that I can do th14 as early as possible?

?

[cosmic escarp]

Literally just don't give your builders any breaks

Plus i'd reccomend you to upgrade your heroes early

Whilst you get most important lab upgrades down

[civic crag]

Hİ GUYS

kılanıma gelin

[compact ferry]

Heroes-storage-lab upgrades-core def
Then if you have time's left go for major def

[compact ferry]

Speak english mate

[civic crag]

tamam

[woeful wave]

Sure

[acoustic forum]

Ok

Hog puppet lowkey goated

Gives good health recovery and stats

[woeful wave]

yeah but the downside is that your rc has some less dps

[acoustic forum]

Compared to spear?

Or haste vial

[woeful wave]

both

they both have dps boost

[acoustic forum]

I see

But it's better right

If you don't have the fox ur rc can just die after you use spear

Hog puppet gives her some protection

Is haste vial even good with eboots outside of rc charge?

[woeful wave]

like i said, depends on the strat

[acoustic forum]

Talk about ground attacks

[woeful wave]

no not really

[woeful wave]

if you do rc charge for rr then haste is often the best

[acoustic forum]

Ye

[woeful wave]

if you do rc for dragons with mass invis then spear is good

[acoustic forum]

I see

Did you max th17

[woeful wave]

ive seen people use hog for rc rr too for protection

i use hog for my hog strat but thats just because i need more hogs xD and the protection is obviously good

[woeful wave]

the main things yes, the rest not

[acoustic forum]

yeah

[woeful wave]

@acoustic forum

here from yesterday

[acoustic forum]

oh very nice

Well decorated base

[woeful wave]

yeah ty

wait check this out

[woeful wave]

.

[empty wolf]

Th14 bomb tower💔

[woeful wave]

th13 wiz tower

[acoustic forum]

No wayyy

Not a single shovel?

[glacial lynx]

Is there any way I get the 3 star as a th14

[woeful wave]

nope

[acoustic forum]

Nope

[glacial lynx]

Yeah

[acoustic forum]

Crazy

[wintry ridge]

Does somebody have a good TH12 base that I can have?

[woeful wave]

i just used decorations to block other spawn possibilities

[frank pewter]

Youtube

[empty wolf]

Depends what's in wsr cc

[timid kettle]

is it worth to invest my gems all in resource converter helper? idk if i should get some more abilities (th12, i already have giant gauntlet, cold arrow, fireball, action figure)

[cinder silo]

What's like a good def cc for disarmers

Th17

[abstract quest]

waiting until the events over

[compact ferry]

Builder ap/lab assist better

[abstract quest]

get equipment

[compact ferry]

And you could get electro boots for your RC later on (You could also get it from event tbh)

[timid kettle]

what are some generally good equipment to obtain then? plus which of them should i prioritize upgrading

[hallow pond]

spiky ball / eboots / action figure from event / rocket spear

[abstract quest]

mirror and either electro boots or spear

u already have gauntlet so balls not that much of a priority

[timid kettle]

what about the warden

[abstract quest]

u have both etome and fireball already

the only other warden epic is lavaloon and it's bad

[worldly geyser]

Does it hard surviving in titan 1 as a th 13? I kinda want to up my ore income from daily bonus, currently in champ 2 now

[placid garnet]

you find th15 every time

EmotiCool

[woeful wave]

sdrags

[woeful wave]

no you just need to attack a lot

[timid kettle]

what im thinking is,

king has gauntlet + rage atm so i may keep it as is
queen has frost arrow + giant arrow but i may consider action figure + frost
warden has etome + rage cus i think its hard to find good value when using fireball + etome

[woeful wave]

fireball and etome is the worst combo

[timid kettle]

yeah

ill just worry about rc when im near th13

what about minion prince though i cant grasp his strengths so idk when hes truly useful (as compared with others)

[woeful wave]

unless you do air attacks or root rider attacks you shouldnt use him

[abstract quest]

frozen arrow is bad

what attack are you using

[timid kettle]

i dont have a specific attack but i mostly specialize in air

so i use king queen mostly for funnel

[abstract quest]

yea replace farrow with healer puppet

[timid kettle]

alright so healer + action figure? or giant arrow

[abstract quest]

both

[timid kettle]

just circumstantial?

[abstract quest]

yes

healer and garrow or figure and garrow

[glacial lynx]

Nothing

[twilit hornet]

how long would it take to fix a rushed th15

[worldly geyser]

How much is "a lot"? Like 25/day?

[runic lion]

Long time

[woeful wave]

yeah maybe, depends on with which troops youre attacking and how often you get attacked

[deep cradle]

max walls! took 31 days

I was kinda slow

[woeful wave]

crazy

i cant seem to find the loot often

[deep cradle]

Lol

the reason is that I've been farming defenses, and just done SO many attacks

[woeful wave]

no way youre farming loot like that and have enough to upgrade walls

[deep cradle]

700 attacks this month this far

[woeful wave]

i have a bit more than 300

[deep cradle]

Im gonna see if having no loot means I get defenses

I have had full loot when I've closed the last few days, and just gotten serious defenses

thinking I might farm defenses a bit since someone had a theory that low loot means getting defenses

[woeful wave]

drop to silver and watch your won defenses go up

[deep cradle]

I had 78 defenses the 23rd and now it's just up to 81

so it has really slowed down. Kinda trying to figureo out why

[woeful wave]

maybe because of the event?

[abstract quest]

they didn't announce a ruleset for low th cups

this is not sigma at all

[deep cradle]

thought so also, but it started like 10 days in and was just completely redicules

stealing no loot at all

[deep cradle]

1 defense XD

[celest drum]

what queen equipment should i level up first (already done archer puppet)

[mossy geode]

What do you have?

[celest drum]

wdym

all of them

except for heal puppet

[mossy geode]

I mean epics

[celest drum]

yeah

all of them

[mossy geode]

Oh

Magic mirror

[deep cradle]

mirror is a must have for most attacks

[celest drum]

what makes it so good

[mossy geode]

2 clones

[celest drum]

i have it with 1 clone and seems pretty mid

[mossy geode]

Both clones have more dps than base queen

[mossy geode]

It gets good at lvl 18

[celest drum]

ook

[deep cradle]

at max level it adds 1550 dps & 6400 hp for 30 seconds

[mossy geode]

Plus it has significant hero boosts

[mossy geode]

..

The boosts

[deep cradle]

Stronk

[celest drum]

thank u

[deep cradle]

it pairs superwell with healer puppet, or action figure. But action figure doesn't work if you are going into a monolith

[mossy geode]

I love how tanky the clones are too for protecting queen

[rain zealot]

Wdym it does

If the queen is targeting mono then it works

Or in general

[abstract quest]

what kind of base has mono alone with no stall near it

honestly tho both suck going into mono cuz monos just that good

its just healers might be able to tank for queen and heal at the same time

[deep cradle]

My theory is correct. No loot means defenses

[abstract quest]

donate me some of those gems

[deep cradle]

the difference is that monolith kills giant in around 11 seconds and goes far infront of queen since it doesn't deal with trash. So it'll die in those cases before queen even gets benefit

[rain zealot]

A lot

[deep cradle]

I'ma see if I can find one of the bases I'm thinking off

[abstract quest]

i just said that cuz if queen is targeting mono then u can even say farrow is good

[deep cradle]

Bad example, but kinda like this

[abstract quest]

thats straight up not true

[deep cradle]

in that situation if there was trash giant would just kill itself before queen got any benefit of it

or atleast a large chunk of the hp is gone instantly

but you can ofc just wait with activating it ofc

but then you are risking getting targeted by mono instead

[deep cradle]

these gems are from 3 days

I'm a pro gem farmer XD

[abstract quest]

what the sigma

wtf

[abstract quest]

does action figure give queen 1 second invis like some other equipment

[deep cradle]

yes

but it doesn't stack with mirror invis

[abstract quest]

oh ok

[rain zealot]

Ok then

If you say so buddy

[abstract quest]

yep

[deep cradle]

Ive not been able to play with it though

[abstract quest]

its either mono has a million years of stall or is impossible to get to

[deep cradle]

king & rc is upgrading

[abstract quest]

or the base is straight up bad

which is a MASSIVE possibility

[abstract quest]

only level 19 😔

my etome is only level 18

[deep cradle]

I'm just saying that it is bad to charge into mono with it, worse than it would be charging into it with healer puppet

[deep cradle]

and only 32 starry ore. So I'm 2 weeks away from level 23

[glacial lynx]

How should I attack this as a th14

I just need high percentage with 2 stars

I was thinking blimp the th and do something to take out all the outside of the base

[deep cradle]

Skletons go!

I'm farming scattershots & eagles

because why not

[tender wyvern]

Skeletons go!

[rain zealot]

You blimp the th and farm percentage with something like Edrags

[deep cradle]

I'd sarch blimp onto this firespitter, and make sure you land outside of the poison tower range. And then disarmer the rest with the funneling you get from the sarch blimp

[deep cradle]

^

[rain zealot]

How is he gonna th after?

I mean tbf he’s th15 ig you can charge to it

[deep cradle]

disamers target defenses, so you can just spam them with warden on 9, and then pop his ability and coast through the middle

[rain zealot]

True event troops are a thing still

You might aswell triple this base

[deep cradle]

you can otherwise do this pathing

[hallow pond]

investing 1500 gems on magic mirror or spiky ball ?

[ornate hollow]

mm

[deep cradle]

both are really important

BUT if you are ONLY doing air attacks ball is probably a higher priority than mirror, but if you do air attacks you are more likely to use MP instead of king...

[sharp sandal]

alright finally

there is the ore offers in shop

@abstract quest im thinking i get the starry one

Since starry is super rare

And ima build boots after mirror

so ima need that

[deep cradle]

don't spend gems on ore

it's awful value

if you have no other option and have all equipments, all helpers leveled etc then sure

but 275 gems for 15 starry isn't giving the benefit you think it does

275 for like 3 days of war

[scarlet elk]

what's the best use for gems?

the helpers?

[deep cradle]

1. Equipments
2. helpers
3. goblin builder/researcher

[warm maple]

Builders

[scarlet elk]

Already got all 6

[scarlet elk]

I got spiky for king and uhh eb for champ. I was thinking fireball for warden next.

[deep cradle]

mirror, and rocketspear are really useful

mirror is by far the strongest equipment in the game

[scarlet elk]

oh okay.

[deep cradle]

fireball is only used for basically 2 attacks: FB superwitches & WW rocketloons

[storm agate]

I’m struggling at th16. What are the best armies to use?

[scarlet elk]

uhh I'm at th13 so am not struggling with the other higher defenses

[atomic zephyr]

How can i 3, this dude is suped up

[dreamy burrow]

fb rr also hot

[deep cradle]

I would honestly just sarch blimp

[hallow pond]

i do play both ground and air attks tho

[deep cradle]

you take like half the core defenses landing around the right sweeper

[barren wasp]

If u have fireball leveled up its pretty good value at the bottom

[abstract quest]

BOCCHI

[scarlet elk]

RYO

[scarlet elk]

Bruh

[abstract quest]

i saw that 💀

copy the gif link and then send

[scarlet elk]

rip

[abstract quest]

or u can download the gif

[scarlet elk]

it's ok it's in ur brain so mission accomplished

[abstract quest]

we just need nijika

[deep cradle]

we just need a revolution

[acoustic forum]

Is this peak

[twilit hornet]

do you guys think it was a good idea to rush to th15

[sharp sandal]

No i mean the one in shop

Money ones

[deep cradle]

if you rushed and kept up with heroes, sort of... but still not ideal. If you didn't keep up with heroes?

GL with keeping enough energy to upgrade heroes for 2 years straight

and not losing will to play the game

[deep cradle]

it's better value than buying gems and buying ore with the gems XD

spending money on the game is up to your choice. your choice only.

[celest drum]

shud i level up all the "decent equipment" at the same time or shud i level them up one at a time

[twilit hornet]

well i have 17 other accounts so rushing for the first time feels great. but no i did not upgrade hero’s

[warm maple]

It’s better to focus on one at a time until it reaches the minimum level to be usable

[celest drum]

what if im th12 does that change anything

[warm maple]

Nope just level it up to the minimum level for th12

[celest drum]

where do i find that out

[warm maple]

Yt

I think itzu has a video on it covering lower th levels

[celest drum]

what th are u

[warm maple]

13, going to be 14 tomorrow

[abstract quest]

corrupt too

[celest drum]

so are you sure you have the qualifications and experience to be sharing this infomation with me?

[abstract quest]

lmao

don't even come back here

[celest drum]

its a genuine question

[abstract quest]

please don't speak ever again

[celest drum]

whats that supposed to mean

dont cause a scene in this channel bud

[abstract quest]

"bud"

[celest drum]

yeah i called you bud, buster

is there a problem? bud

[abstract quest]

aren't u the one who asks for help and then questions every thing people say

[celest drum]

no

thats someone else

[abstract quest]

aren't u the one who started talking shit about slade and then went back 5 minutes later to ask slade for help

[celest drum]

nope

[abstract quest]

🤣🤣🤣

[celest drum]

whats so funny mister

can someone qualified pls answer my question and give a potentially different perspective and some new insight

[warm maple]

Wdym “qualified”?

[celest drum]

someone with actual coc qualifications?

[warm maple]

Calling me bad?

[celest drum]

noo

[abstract quest]

he's calling u bad

[celest drum]

im just trying to say that your credentials are relatively poor

[abstract quest]

he called the best person i know stupid

[celest drum]

no i didnt

[abstract quest]

don't even help him anymore

[celest drum]

waat

[warm maple]

Not like yours are any better

[celest drum]

yeah i have 0

thats why i came for help

[abstract quest]

then shut up and listen

or go to youtube

[warm maple]

Just cuz someone doesn’t have a high th, doesn’t mean they lack experience

[celest drum]

i just need multiple perspectives to shine some light on such a delicate topic like this

[abstract quest]

i swear to god u just come here ask for help and then say people don't know what they're doing

[celest drum]

no i dont

[abstract quest]

just ignore him now

[celest drum]

no pls

dont do this

[warm maple]

I have a th16 in my clan who can barely get a 2 star on his mirror

[celest drum]

we really do live in a cruel unforgiving world... dont we

[abstract quest]

just ignore him

he's not worth it

[celest drum]

wow

whats your problem with me?

this is meant to be a channel for members to confide in eachother and pursue guidance

not a tyrone hate channel

[deep cradle]

lmao, clam is one of the most qualified people in this entire discord XD

you are picking the wrong fight here bud

[celest drum]

yeah and they refuse to help me

[abstract quest]

he said slade doesn't know what "rushed" means

[celest drum]

dont seem very qualified if you ask me

[deep cradle]

maybe because you act like a asshole to them

might be why

[celest drum]

kids these days

am i right?

[lethal heart]

clam seems like he is making assumptions about your ethinicity and beliefs based on your name and manner of speech. I think he must be discriminating against you

[celest drum]

😂

[abstract quest]

he said archer puppet garrow is the best combo in the game

[abstract quest]

fr this is actually racism

[celest drum]

thats just what i saw in a video

the guy had 11k subs

hes super qualified

he gets like 300+ views every vid

do you get 300+ view on your youtube channel?

thats what i thought

[celest drum]

.................

[deep cradle]

subs doesn't mean someone knows what they are talking about

I would never take advice from judosloth lmao

[celest drum]

yeah i was just sharing the info from the video i watched

is there a problem with wanting to share my freshly learnt knowledge?

[deep cradle]

yes.

because it's simply wrong?

spreading disinformation is bad

[celest drum]

yeah but thats obvious cause hes a noob

[abstract quest]

he's not gonna listen

[celest drum]

im sorry :-(

can i get a clean slate

you can be the bigger person here

[deep cradle]

archer puppet wasn't even the best option when you couldn't even choose

it's always been better to have no ability than archer puppet

[celest drum]

why

[deep cradle]

any area damage

[celest drum]

what

[warm maple]

I think it could kill queen through the invisibility (back when invisibility vial was good)

[celest drum]

ok hastings

[deep cradle]

a common thing is that scattershots were killing queen because the archers weren't invisible

[celest drum]

can you answer some questions for me.. please

im a new man

ready to learn and listen

[deep cradle]

and you act like everyone else is awful at the game? XD

[celest drum]

dont let my twisted past decieve you

[abstract quest]

it got power crept

it's still good

[celest drum]

im reformed

trust me

[abstract quest]

nah

[celest drum]

does anyone in this discord (who is th16+) believe in second chances!!!!???!?!?!?

[deep cradle]

no

[abstract quest]

lmao

[celest drum]

anyone?!?!?!

[abstract quest]

this guy is why th12s have a bad rep

[warm maple]

Why put the th16+ in the brackets?

[celest drum]

accident

[deep cradle]

maybe keshi, but she's a asshole too

[celest drum]

how do you know im th12

[deep cradle]

:>

[warm maple]

Riiiiight

[warm maple]

Cuz you said so

[celest drum]

i was joking

its all been a lite

lie

[abstract quest]

i thought keshi stayed th14

[deep cradle]

no idea, she hasn't chatted in months

maybe got pushed out from the "opinions" lol

[abstract quest]

has in clash chat

[celest drum]

anime profile picture person, what if i were to tell you everything you think you know about me isnt true

what if i were to tell you that this tale is riddled with trickery and deception

[abstract quest]

is he old enough to be in discord

[celest drum]

would you believe me?

youve only read the first chapter yet you think youve read the whole book

the story goes so much deeper

youre only a few pages away from an insane plot twist... yet you dont want to continue??

[warm maple]

Bro’s about to write a whole novel 💀

[celest drum]

do you mind addressing me as sire? its my preferred pronoun

anyways

can someone answer my question now?

[warm maple]

Fine, call me master then

[celest drum]

sure if you address me as sire

[warm maple]

We have a deal

[celest drum]

is there someone is this discord server (that doesnt have a solid colour profile picture and that isnt about to go to th14) that will answer my questions????

[plush cave]

@north prawn accept friend request plz

[warm maple]

Sure

[celest drum]

(this isnt tyrone speaking) dont mean to be that guy but dont you have a solid colour profile pic?

[warm maple]

I believe black is not really a color sire. It does not reflect any light thus dubbing it colorless.

[celest drum]

fair play master, may i proceed with my questions?

[warm maple]

Yes, please go ahead

[celest drum]

what is the best th12 deck to use?

[plush cave]

super yetis and super archers

[celest drum]

wasnt asking you bud

[plush cave]

with bats

[celest drum]

WAITZ

YETIS HAVE SUPER TROOPS

ß

?

[plush cave]

th12 is easy bro

[celest drum]

no its not

[plush cave]

it is

[celest drum]

CAN this take th13

[plush cave]

just spam dragons in a line lmaooo

[celest drum]

cause i only fight th13s and up

[warm maple]

Well a tricky question indeed. There a plethora of attack strategies effective at town hall level 12. Personally sire I have used the combination of witches, golems and lightning spells during my time at th12

[celest drum]

aha, quite the expert you are master, were these attacks able to maintain their effectiveness against th13s too?

[warm maple]

Sadly witches tend to fair worse against enemies with scattershots. Perhaps an attack strategy utilising higher housing space units such as dragons or super witches might be more effective against an opponent with a higher town hall level

[celest drum]

do you perhaps know how to use super witches? what other troops go with a super witch attack. i would truly appreciate it if you took a second to share a small portion of your seemingly infinite wisdom

[deep cradle]

there's zap witch, all the lalo variants, qc hybrid, sarch dragons, sarch/blizz entry whatever, FB superwitches, whatever yeti bat shit ppl are doing

zapwitch doesn't work on uphits

[warm maple]

Of course sire. Super witches pair best with the Grand Warden’s fireball equipment, creating an effective funnel with the utilisation of a warden walk. The other side is usually taken care of with the segie barracks and another hero(aq I think). This allows the super witches to effectively go inside the base while luring the grand warden and his healers to keep the army healthy

[worldly geyser]

Is there any way to "track" when ones able to max their hero gear? Maybe something like ninja clash tracker thing, but it's for gear instead

[celest drum]

Your wisdom in warfare is as ever, a marvel to behold master. However I humbly seek your counsel, what troops would you recommend to accompany my super witches? Additionally, might I inquire whether the super witches venture forth into the heart of the enemy alone, or do they proceed in union with the Grand Warden?

[warm maple]

A great question indeed sire. Super wall breakers are great for opening the base initially for both the super witches and the siege barracks with the archer queen to create a deeper funnel. Additionally using balloons is a good idea to protect the healers from seeking air mines during the initial stages of the attack and headhunters can help with dealing with defending heroes. The super witches should venture to the base together with the barbarian king and the grand warden to open up the enemy village and provide extra protection.

[celest drum]

My deepest thanks master for imparting such invaluable wisdom. Your strategic insight illuminates the battlefield like a beacon through fog. alas one humble query remains... at what moment in this attack dost thou unleash the fireball’s wrath? Should it precede the witches' entry, or when should it be released to get the most value

[warm maple]

Of course, one of the most vital parts of this strategy. During the early stages of the attack once the warden walk is taking place, one shall wait until the defensive buildings near the outside of the base have been taken care of by the grand warden. Once that is done, one must use invisibility spells to correctly direct the fireball to one of the most powerful defensive tools at the enemy's disposal, typically it is the eagle artillery, however one may also try to target the clan castle or in general an area of the base with high value. It is also crucial to bring earthquake spells (ussually 2) to finish off key defenses.

[sharp sandal]

Little misleading because of mighty morsel but i got action figure maxxed for th13 @abstract quest now for mirror

Wish my equipment was always like this

Gonna take ages leveling mirror now

Only lvl 2

[celest drum]

Indeed master, I am most enlightened by your words. Might I further inquire— is there a minimum level of hero strength thou wouldst deem essential for this strategy to unfold in its full glory? And furthermore, how many of these mighty super witches should one summon forth to march upon the enemy’s village?

[warm maple]

4 super witches should be sufficient to defeat the enemy. As for the strength of the heroes the Grand warden's level is crucial, if attacking a th13 a maxed grand warden helps with the successful defead of a stronger opponent. It is also important for the fireball to be at a sufficient level to unlock it's true destructive potential.

[celest drum]

A thousand thanks master, for thy boundless generosity in sharing such refined strategies. I am deeply grateful for thy wisdom, and shall wield it with honour upon the battlefield.

may thy armies ever triumph

[warm maple]

Thank you. It has been a pleasure to share some of my wisdom with you sire. Until we meet again.

[celest drum]

farewell, master

[fickle axle]

im a maxed th13 after this clan games ill be th14 need a new attack strategy for it

[warm maple]

I’m about to hit th14 to

[fickle axle]

nice

[warm maple]

Heard rc charge dragons is still good

[fickle axle]

yh i need to get electro boots first

pretty sure thats the best thing for rc charge

[acoustic forum]

There is no rc charge without eboots

[woeful wave]

you can do rc charge without boots

[acoustic forum]

Cursed

[woeful wave]

it just helps with time cause it clears other buildings too

[acoustic forum]

The skeletons...

[woeful wave]

yeah they can be a bit annoying but its not too bad

[deep cradle]

no boots just means less value & no trash buildings destroyed

[tender wyvern]

Throw angry jelly on etitan and make it follow RC

[deep cradle]

Teach jelly fishing and rc will never have to fish in her life

[tulip aspen]

Anyone have a defensive building ranking chart? Basically trying to prioritize th17 upgrades/supercharges efficiently

[lean tangle]

What are the minimum lvls for heroes in th14 to advance to th15?
I dont want to waste to much time here in th14.
Is Lvl.70 BKing | Lvl.80 AQueen | Lvl.50 Warden | Lvl.30 RC
fine?
(I mainly use ground attacks, like super witches)
And I have high lvl equipments (which is what is carrying me in wars and trophy)

[plush cave]

@thorny void turn dms on

lol

or accept my request

[soft dragon]

can anyone help what hero equipment should i use i use edrags?

im also th11

barb king= rage 6 earthquake 1 queen giant arrow 10 invis vial 6 grand warden eternal tome 4 life gem 1

and what equipment should i upgrade and to what and should i sub out?

[hallow sentinel]

Just don’t use edrags

[zinc sage]

how to 3*

[devout bay]

rc charge root rest

[soft dragon]

y not?

[rocky elk]

pray and hope

[muted forge]

u dont need to change anything

im th11 using edrags

3300 trophies

[hallow sentinel]

They suck

[muted forge]

wrinf

[soft dragon]

ik but what

equipmenty should io upgeade

[muted forge]

idk id look it up on yt, there are specific levels for each equipment where they are technically at their “best” (besides max level, obv)

[flat scaffold]

at what point am i chill to rush to th14?

getting 6th builder in a week

wanna get a head start on pets

im not trying to rush where it could be disadvantageous for CWL or where i'll struggle in attacks

maybe i just upgrade heros non stop for a month? so im near max for th13 heros and then rush

[abstract quest]

holy obstacles

[flat scaffold]

the trees increase the spiritual aura of my base. helps my defense

[rocky elk]

😭

[soft dragon]

DO YK any good yt vids?

[rocky elk]

Search up CorruptYT’s “Ranking every equipment from best to worst 2025”

[rare rivet]

yo

need an army for th 16 with def equipment in hard mode

[muted forge]

sorry bro idk

[misty tapir]

Anyone got a lineup for th14 that pairs well with a royal champion rush?

[flat scaffold]

no idea sorry

[sharp sandal]

@abstract quest @deep cradle the money ore offers in shop can you buy multiple of them like one from website and another ingame?

[weary ridge]

idk

[errant apex]

Yo

who has a USA styled mainland layout

anyone got one?

[tight fern]

If u overgrown statues it shows them as frozen top tier strategy

[cosmic escarp]

Your best bet is to find some US mainland 1 colour border stock image, rotate it by 45 degrees, use either some sort of an app or a minecraft mod to convert it into an image/build with like 30x30 resolution

And then recreate it ingame

@errant apex

[gaunt aspen]

?

[errant apex]

Done

Anything i can fix in the base?

Its ok tbh

This is why I need friends ):

[woeful wave]

Fix your heroes

[edgy orchid]

what is the best way to spend gems after builder?
Lab Assistant or builder's apprentice or smth else

[errant apex]

Yea il

Ill fix heroes

What else

Anything to move?

[woeful wave]

After builder do equipment if needed

[errant apex]

Oh yeah this

[edgy orchid]

I see are there guides in any channel I'm a returning player and don't know much abt equipments

[errant apex]

💀😭

[woeful wave]

Then (or meanwhile) army camps, storages, xbow, inferno tower, air defense, cannons, archer tower and the rest

[errant apex]

Uh ok

[woeful wave]

Guides for the equipment?

[edgy orchid]

yes

[woeful wave]

Yeah kinda

But its just better if you tell your strategy and then i can tell you which equipment you need

[edgy orchid]

I'm at th11 lvl45 queen lvl 16 warden bk and minion king will be constantly upgrading after and I will use the Golem and witches one

rn I'm using special troops since queen and warden are being upgraded

[warm maple]

Corrupt yt has guides on hero equipment including best equipment combos and minimum level

[woeful wave]

I think you can only buy them in one of those (if the offers are even available on the website)

[edgy orchid]

I also got the action figure

[edgy orchid]

ok will check it out

[woeful wave]

You might wanna change the strat

[edgy orchid]

what do u recommend

[warm maple]

why?

[woeful wave]

For th11 its good to go with queen charge hybrid or lalo

[woeful wave]

Because golem witch isnt really great

[edgy orchid]

alright thanks

[warm maple]

I thought qc fell off

[woeful wave]

Only at th16,17

Its still one of the best choices at all other ths

[errant apex]

I was so bored I made a china layout💀

[woeful wave]

Crazy

[edgy orchid]

damn

[edgy orchid]

Can I still use hybrid my miners and hogs are 2 and 3 levels below max

[woeful wave]

Then probably not

Level them and play your current thing till you have them maxed

[edgy orchid]

Alright thanks

[spare silo]

Hey bois I need someone to help me w destroying a th14 war dm if u can

[errant apex]

Should i put TH in xinjang or manchuria?

Or is it good in huxei.

FRICK I FORGOT TO SAVE IT

ALL THE WORK FOR NOTTHING

[fossil goblet]

[woeful wave]

Send the base here

[woeful wave]

Damn

[plain robin]

How to destroy this as a th15? I don't have my king, queen and rc.

[jolly drift]

giant arrow top and bottom AD's, send a yeti or something to get the right AD then send a blimp from the right side and land it on the CC

(i'm th12 don't listen to me)

[sleek thunder]

!!rec

[mossy girder]

If you are looking for a clan or for a place to advertise your own clan, read #recruitment-rules and #recruitment-info.

[young ginkgo]

How much ores do we get avg in FWA

[empty wolf]

Uh around 1.5-6k shiny

If u win war

Just join a dominating winning clan instead