ZornAlong2024 - Feb - Mar

[dire shuttle]

Paint a model using the 4 colored palette of yellow ochre, vermillion, black and white. Note if you dont have the exact color. Closest ones are welcome as substitute. :

STANDARD HOUSEKEEPING RULES :

You may prep your mini, this includes, gap fill, assemble, purchase and prime ahead of time. Paint should only be applied during the time-frame of the PAL.

Anyone can join in on the fun. Just share your mini first and paint within the time frame. Request your points in the point request channel by following the pinned post on how to ask for points.

You can't submit the same mini for multiple PALs or other multiple events. And units minis can't be split among the different PALS if they are identical .

Have fun and be nice to each other. Share some wips and some laughs.

@dire harness @jagged stratus @hybrid rune @carmine pelican and @orchid bough
hope I didn't miss anyone 😊

[hybrid rune]

I'll be painting this sucker. Didn't plan on doing him with zorn, but I think it'll be a great fit.

[carmine pelican]

Doing this 32mm dudebro

Discord didn’t like that other pic

[sleek solar]

I've been considering doing a zorn palette mini recently, I might get in on this, just want to find an appropriate mini

[clear bronze]

I just did something similar with a mini I painted! Gotta get in on this. It'll help me reinforce the lesson I was trying to learn.

Also, on said model, I'm realizing I could have made an awesome green with the colors I selected. Time to go back and fix that one 😅 and then start a new one.

And now I need to go buy some vermillion paint.

[carmine pelican]

Google says vermillion is ‘orange red’ but every picture is like red-red

I CONFUS

[orchid bough]

it's a warm red methinks

you can use pyrrol red or cadmium red

or napthol red

[hybrid rune]

There's a good example of a palette in this article where they just use red in stead of vermillion.
https://www.jacksonsart.com/blog/2021/02/02/colour-mixing-exploring-the-zorn-palette/

I'm going to use VGC Bloody Red which fits with my definition of "pure red".

[dire harness]

I wouldnt overthink it. Like if it was citadel I’d say wild rider red is close but mephiston is ok

I’m gonna do barbarian bust by mindwork

[leaden dirge]

lets go!

[sleek solar]

Perfect choice, NGL

[muted solstice]

👀

Hmm, might be interesting to do Zorn NMM and skin on a bust

[hoary aspen]

I'm in with this dude 😎 Zorn is lots of fun 🙂

[obtuse drum]

Oh shit another zorn along count me in

[chilly ember]

@tidal owl

[tidal owl]

Ready to Zorn this 🙂

[gentle oracle]

I have no idea which miniature i will paint, but i wanted to try the Zorn palette for a while now so i am in

[hybrid rune]

This'll do, I hope.
Curious to see how the red and yellow mix. I'll work with what I have.

[dire harness]

Looks good

I’m gonna use w&n oils

[tidal owl]

Old school I may do oils as well if I'm brave enough

[clear bronze]

Hadn't thought about using oils for this. Might make blending a lot easier.

[sleek solar]

Might do this one, Zorn could serve her well

[dire harness]

That looks cool as heck

[chilly ember]

What kind of model would suit this palette? Like skin seems to be a big thing and someone nature like will be tough without green?

On the other hand a druid or something would be an interesting experience then.

[dire harness]

You can make some nice greens though

[muted solstice]

Are the colours restricted for this PAL? I've also seen examples where they include a dark blue instead of black for example. Making greens would be a bit easier that way.

[dire harness]

Also I think the idea is not to copy the true chroma of the source. Relative to the rest of the model you can still get the warm and cool contrasts

[muted solstice]

For example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=db2Y5b5ZMHY

[dire harness]

Yeah the idea is its black, white, yellow ochre and a bright orangey red- if you use a dark blue you’ll have quite a different painting, though obviously the less restricted it is the ‘easier’ it is to achieve some colours. But i suppose the idea of a limited palette is you dont need all the colours?

I love this one in a zorn palette. No blue but you instantly know its cold and snowy

[hybrid rune]

I'm definitely seeing a desert landscape.

[muted solstice]

Ah, the interpretation of art 😄

[dire harness]

That’s interesting! The relatively white foreground made me think snow

[sleek solar]

It's the warm background. Makes it look like a desert.

[leaden dirge]

i read it as desert...

[muted solstice]

Or it's yellow snow

ew

[chilly ember]

Same desert for me

I think it depends if you check on mobile or not. In full view is quite different because of the tracks on the snow

[hoary aspen]

For a first glance - desert 😄 but yeah, white first plane definitely makes it snow 🙂

[dire harness]

Yeah the tracks definitely signal snow to me too

[sharp fiber]

Oooh this is interesting! I’ll have to pick a mini and read up on Zorn for inspiration!

[sharp fiber]

This was a good read in preparation for this, especially as someone very new.

https://www.jacksonsart.com/blog/2021/02/02/colour-mixing-exploring-the-zorn-palette/

[carmine pelican]

That was great thanks dude

[obtuse drum]

Marcos F on YouTube did a zorn video or too as well

https://youtu.be/agHgoCvy5WA?feature=shared

I like Marcos he actually paints on his channel

[past sand]

Hm, how did he get that blue on the sword without cheating...?

[chilly ember]

4 colors 4 hours but uses 6 colors?

[chilly ember]

He has two blues

[past sand]

ok

[obtuse drum]

Yeah some people zorn with dark blue instead of black

Black is sort of unnatural

[chilly ember]

Anyways is interesting

[gentle oracle]

Does anyone know if the Zorn palette will work when i use carbon black instead of ivory black?

[dire harness]

In that one (marco’s) he just added blue as a 3rd colour.

[dire harness]

Try it and see what you can make?

[dire harness]

This kinda seems like… a basically full palette? As you can make pretty much any secondary from those primaries, except maybe a decent purple

[chilly ember]

It's what I was thinking. General Idea for sure at the start but the sample paintjob is just mixing practice

[obtuse drum]

Maybe I'll do the gigalion

[sleek solar]

Carbon black should be fine, it's mostly just more opaque than Ivory Black apparently.

[clear bronze]

Pretty sure this is the model I'm painting. Unless my box of models I ordered gets here soonish

Decided to go with a red I own. Will see how it goes

And now I prep the model and wait. Now to find what I'll paint in the meantime

I just painted this model, with a limited palette. I'm hoping I can apply what I learned to achieve much better results

[sharp fiber]

This little duder might be fun in Zorn

[past sand]

Hm, I do have an actual "Ivory Black", but it is Oil paint, and I've never used it. I would assume that oil paints will not mix with acryllic (water-based) paints. Any experience with that?

[muted solstice]

Mix? No that wouldn't work. But you can use it to paint on top of acrylics, and vice versa, I believe. Or use it as an oil wash over acrylics by thinning with mineral spirits.

[past sand]

Well, then it has no place in the zorn palette ˆ.ˆ

[hybrid rune]

I don't think you have to get too hung up on which pigment is in your black tbh.

[past sand]

I found this article when looking for a replacement black, which also references Zorn: https://www.jacksonsart.com/blog/2020/11/27/exploring-the-differences-between-black-pigments/

[past sand]

Hm, but ivory black is a bit special when adding white... so depending on the replacement it may limit the gamut that's available...

None of my blacks has a brown shade when mixing with white. Probably all carbon black...

[hybrid rune]

Limitation is the whole point of the exercise though, so doesn't really matter if it's the "wrong" limit. Imo of course.

[past sand]

Oh.

Can I do YMC+BW then? 😛 (just kidding)

I got you. I'll stop fuzzing over it.

I'll participate with this guy

[past sand]

I'm going back on the "i'll stop fuzzing" bit. Because I did some mixing right now and remembered why I got pure liquitex inks once: If you mix Vallejos "Flat Red" with "Golden Yellow", if they were pure red and yellow pigments, you would get orange. But you don't. It becomes a pastel pink, or a pastel-brownish-orange, but you never reach a true orange.

@dire shuttle Would it count if I use a 3:1 mix of yellow medium azo and quinacridone magenta to replace the vermillion? I would pre-mix it (resulting in a rich red ink) and would not use yellow/magenta separately.

Nevermind. I ordered this...
https://www.pk-pro.de/Liquitex-Professional-Acrylic-Ink-30ml-BTL-NAPHTHOL-RED-LIGHT

So it will be either left picture if rules allow, or otherwise right (with flat red).

[dire shuttle]

You could of yes we understand not everyone has the exact same paint so the closest replacement/available color is fine

[past sand]

Hm, I just painted a Frosthaven mini with that palette. I was expecting there to be no blues, but green-ish is also not possible at all... ˆ.ˆ

[dire harness]

What happened mixing ochre and black?

[obtuse drum]

Yellow on black can make a greenish hue

[past sand]

reads as dark-brown to me.

I don't have ochre... it is raw siena.

I have an orange ochre.... may test its mixingness 🙂

Hm, actually I wouldn't expect green from a pure black and pure yellow. It would only happen if there's a blue-ish component in the black...

[obtuse drum]

Nope you don't need any blue it works with black but you won't get a bright green

This is pretty accurate

[past sand]

Yes, you are right. Double-checked with the Golden Acrylic Mixer.

However.... it does not work with yellow ochre or raw siena. 😦

So no greens for us, unless the substitute for ochre is yellow.

[dire harness]

It definitely makes an olive green, black and yellow ochre. Dark yellow is essentially green anyway

https://i0.wp.com/www.timeden.com.au/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/zorn_palette_colour_chart.jpg

[scenic cedar]

Let’s see how this goes 😅

[sleek solar]

The thing to remember is that the greens and blues in this palette are largely contextual. The yellow ochre and black will make a greenish colour, that for this palette works as green.
Black and white make a neutral grey which, in this very warm palette, will read as blueish.

You won't be getting vibrant greens and blues and that's largely the point of the exercise.

[past sand]

So this is my test subject. I know the PAL has not started and I'll not get any points. Actually I just wanted to try if the palette worked and it kind of escalated >.<

I swear the greenish pelts do not read as green to me in the actual miniature size. It happens when doing the 2x optical zoom.

I'll be good now until February!

[muted solstice]

Ordered me some Scale 75 artist colours to use for this PAL! Not sure what mini I'm entering with yet though 😅

[hoary aspen]

I will probably change the mini for one of these old dwarfs 😄 want to practice some gold nmm 😋

And my paints for this

[sharp fiber]

Old dwarf pal! Would love to work through the gold NMM on Zorn palette with you. Seems intimidating to me!

[carmine pelican]

Don’t have a good bright red so it’ll have to be mephiston red plus the AK colors. I hope mixing the citadel color won’t give me too much grief

[carmine pelican]

Hey boss what app is this? Looks super useful for color mixing noobs like yours truly

[obtuse drum]

Google images lmao

[carmine pelican]

Oh right. I thought you had some dope app that showed transitions between two set colors

[carmine pelican]

So I have to paint skin but with no skin tone bottles. I’ve really fucked myself over with choice of model. This is gonna be fun:)

[sleek solar]

Zorn is super easy at skin tones

Caucasian skin is just Orange + White, give it a bit of yellow ochre, a bit of red, and a bit of white and black, you'll get all the skin you need.

Glaze with more red to add life

[hoary aspen]

Great, can't wait 😀

[past sand]

This one is pretty neat: https://goldenpaints.com/mixer

[median isle]

hmm, an interesting paintalong theme

the videos for minipainting about zorn always inclue the blue which is a bit annoying kek

[past sand]

I really struggle with mixing non-ink paints this time of year. We have around and below 30% air humidity, and the colors dry right on the wet palette (it is an everlasting, and it holds as much water as it can). So I have to constantly mix the same color again and again to get different shades of it, and then I get lazy and try to shortcut it by using almost-dried-blotches of colors which is annoying.
Inks hold up decently well, but I need so many coats again I get impatient and try to apply too much and it runs into the recesses, more tidy up work. Plus, my tiny brushes constatly dry out or even split if I do not wet them again fast enough (they are good sable brushes...).
I had none of these problems in summer 😦

End of complaint, thanks for listening, just wanted to share my frustration. Yes we have multiple humidifiers.

[median isle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5jk8oa2nX4

dis is nice, thanks

i might join da battle with this, NMM and zorn

@kind pelican did a giga amazing nmm on one of the zorn paintalongs so imma take inspiration on his work 🐗

[sharp fiber]

Do you have a link to that?

[median isle]

here 🐸

[sharp fiber]

Wowza.

[median isle]

ye

giga good

[scenic cedar]

Oh my

[median isle]

its smth i wanted to do with NMM, add purple tones and such

[dire shuttle]

You can still get points for the model itself but not the PAL bonus 😊 just an FYI. Love it btw

[past sand]

Thanks. Yes, I requested normal points for it.

I went over it with another zorn palette using an orange ochre and flat red instead to see the difference, and because I had been sloppy with the inks and didn't mind it running around at first, because I wanted to see the colors first and foremost. It is not as tidy as I would have liked, even after that. Really struggling with my tiny brushes.

I'm really torn what to do for this PAL: Inks or normal Vallejo model paints?

The inks are easier / more predictable to mix, simpler to wet-blend, and more vibrant over a light undercoat.
The normal paints are more difficult to mix, and no chance for wet-blending without retarder, and they are more subdued, but I can apply them more precisely with good opaqueness. I want to learn to go without wet-blending, but I want that specific model to look great.
Option 3 would be to go for the palette that I struggle with more, and use a different model where it does not matter...

[sleek solar]

I would recommend using both options because then you get a larger range of skills and techniques to play with

But failing that, use the option you're more familiar with. This sort of exercise is more one of colour theory than technique.

[jagged stratus]

Questionnnn - if we are doing a unit for this, do we need to have all colours on every mini? I have some guys who are greyscale except for red and could utilise yellow for some commander markings

Or is the idea to utilise all cohesively

[dire shuttle]

Well the purpose of the Zorn palette is to mix colors to form a wider variety of colors than the 5 base coats.
If you are more looking into just doing something like "sin city" movie where it's all black and white and then here's a solid red or yellow bit it might not quite hit the mark.

If you are adding in like variety and shades of the colors it would work. Alternatively if you added even a bit of yellow to the greyscale you might get some interesting results.

TLDR if you are essentially doing zenithal and a pop of color that represents less than 25% of the figure then I'd say no

[jagged stratus]

Okey cool, I'm which case I shall stick to focusing on just one and mixing the tones

Ty for da clear answer dork ❤️

[kind pelican]

ah cool!

it turns out, a little bit of yellow ochre really does wonders for steel

though I guess strictly it's probably more a property of silver

[median isle]

great job!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 🐗 👍

[jagged stratus]

im hoppin on this

ill learn nmm too with this PAL

[kind pelican]

thanks!

Tempted to join, always love a zorn but don't have any good subjects atm... need to plow through some underworlds minis first.

[median isle]

yeah same, i dont have good subjects kek

a khorne chaos warrior would be easy stuff

[kind pelican]

anything with a lot of skin is lovely imo

[median isle]

yeah true, i got one with a lotta skin but hmm

a squig also would be an easy topic with zorn palette kek

[kind pelican]

also btw, this is how it ended up in the end... gave the hair, eyes, face and shoulderpad a little bit more love after I got some good feedback.

[kind pelican]

a squig would be fun.

you should paint it with human skin tones though, that'd be creepy af 😄

[median isle]

human skin tones with black eyes 👻 💀

[muted solstice]

Ok, I give up. You win.

[kind pelican]

sounds like sacrilege 😂

[muted solstice]

That's a seriously sick paint job @kind pelican 👏

[kind pelican]

don't give up, all paint jobs should be seen as aspirational, not anxiety inducing... there'll always be a better paint job to anything one ever does. That doesn't mean what one does isn't meaningsful or great.

[muted solstice]

Yeah, I know 🙂 I'm just messing around. I just hope to manage paint job that look half that decent as yours one day 😄

[kind pelican]

also, honestly... this type of stuff feels way easier on busts. the scale makes a lot of difference...

(and ppl don't zoom in as much 😂 )

this is the first bust I painted, but it immediately felt so much more forgiving than all the 28/32 or even 75mm I'd painted before

on the other hand, there is bullshit you get away with on 32mm that does not fly on busts... luckily I think my style of painting 32mm suits busts (more than it suits 32mm 😂 )

[past sand]

Hmmm... I'm really curious if the Zorn works out for a red-skinned monster, where the transition is from black to bright red as the highest highlight. I mean I could go from there to light yellow or pink, but both are not very devil-ish...

[dire harness]

Well you’ve got the bright red already as the highlight in the palette. You can add white + ochre or just white to highlight that further, go for a shiny red skin

Look at the colours in red skin

[chilly ember]

I would think a lava monster is easy mode with this palette not a learning experience

[dire harness]

There is a lot of pink

[past sand]

These are the kin (painted with YMC + BW palette, except the face plates). The highlights aren't working well though, if you can call it that:
https://cf.geekdo-images.com/FUN3lcrTnmIdcuyC8Wzd7g__imagepage/img/dZC4YP4o6deOPG7hgcfDcAQ4hpQ=/fit-in/900x600/filters:no_upscale():strip_icc()/pic6064417.jpg
So I'd like to improve over it.

[past sand]

Not lava. It's this guy... He does not have to be red though. I just thought that would be perfect for this palette. 🙂

He's an Elite (red base), so he can be special / different from all other monsters. I'm basically free to use any color scheme I wish.

[dire harness]

He’d look good in red

[past sand]

I imagine it is hard to make anything pop really with this subdued palette? Maybe I'm just lacking the fantasy 😄

[dire harness]

I think Robins bust above pops pretty well

You can go for high contrast even with a limited palette to make it pop

[past sand]

That's true.

It will be a good learning experience... I really struggle with proper contrast.

[dire harness]

That’s quite extreme but you can take some photos to tweak contrast and see where to aim for

[past sand]

Yeah, I hadn't thought of that.

Well, I took photos, but the histogram stretching part is great advice. Seems obvious now 😄

[carmine pelican]

I have painted blobs of brown. Whoever said it was easy to make skin tones with this palette has a bigger brain than me.

But blobs shall become muscle

[sleek solar]

It was me, can confirm. Add more white to your skin tone then glaze some red over it and discover living flesh

[carmine pelican]

I’m committed to dark tone boi now I think. Thanks tho:)

[sleek solar]

Then it's time to glaze some black and red

[carmine pelican]

🤘🏾

[sleek solar]

black will desaturate it, which isn't bad but you'll need to control it. The red will give it life, focus it on knees, elbows and face, but the red will also work in the recesses

[carmine pelican]

Made smooth, but prolly needs some red in there in places

[sleek solar]

To me, that's looking like a pretty good skin tone

[carmine pelican]

Very oldschool

Before all this realism nonsense

🤣

[sleek solar]

Yeah, a lot of classic fantasy artists use a palette that's similar to the Zorn palette

[carmine pelican]

The ochre is quite versatile

I’m using the AK interactive one and it’s nice but it covers kinda poorly. Which is surprising from AK

[sleek solar]

If you want a more modern skin tone, mix up some ochre and red until you get an orange and then mix in white and black until you get where you want to be

[carmine pelican]

I’ll try to reddify some parts but might block out the rest of the model first to see how it all looks together

Tyvm 🥰

[sleek solar]

No probs. I can't wait to start on my one, but I think I'm doing one of those backgrounds so I need that first

[carmine pelican]

Some more things

[dire shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/sponge-gif-25325610

[hybrid rune]

Haven't tried the palette yet, wouldn't good lava require a more vibrant orange than what can be achieved with ochre?

[hybrid rune]

That's some progress already. Looks wicked.

[dire harness]

I think good lava is more about the texture and contrast than the hue

[chilly ember]

Good point, probably a fluo finish but overall you would not be limited a lot with this palette. In theory it's more interesting to try to do something with a bigger range to see with how much you can get away with.

I still don't know what I want to paint here

[muted solstice]

That's looking pretty dope already! Nice job 👌

[hoary aspen]

Nice, like volumes on the skin 🙂

A little helper with tones (there's plenty on the internet 🙂 ) https://www.damianosborne.com/wp-content/uploads/How-to-make-a-Zorn-palette-colour-chart-by-Damian-Osborne.jpg

[leaden dirge]

i accidentally painted this guy in zorn pallet

not an entry but funny accident

[kind pelican]

nice, really naturalistic skin tones!

[hoary aspen]

Like it! ❤️

[hybrid rune]

Let's zorn this bitch!

[hybrid rune]

I guess that'll do for a starting point.

[obtuse drum]

hell yeah that looks fab

[hybrid rune]

Cheers dude. Think I went a little conservative with the AB, but I can pick it from here with brush.

Just realised the colors look all wrong from the booth light. It's much redder IRL. This is probably more accurate.

[carmine pelican]

Let’s gooo

[hybrid rune]

https://tenor.com/view/lets-roll-let's-go-golden-girls-sophia-petrillo-trendizisst-gif-1859602003914779875

Think I'm overall going redder than I intended, but still time to rectify that.

[hoary aspen]

Wow great one

[past sand]

After getting an overview of my palette, I established the basic color scheme (base coat). It came out a bit too dark, but I can still build up from there...

The base coat was supposed to be the mid-tone.... >.<

Also, I didn't notice the fine rabbit hairs and dust until it was too late... >.< It is part of the base coat now. This monster was sitting primed on my bench for about a year...

[hoary aspen]

Some fun for today:) find pretty difficult to make good reflections from two opposite sources of light. But whatever 😄
Is it only my or someone who found this pallet a desaturated?

[past sand]

Yeah, it is pretty subdued. That is what I meant with "it is difficult to make it pop". I think it forces you to use black for shadows and white for highlights. Or at least there are not many other options, right?

It's not supposed to be a complaint. We are here for the challenge, right? 😄

[carmine pelican]

Time to give him back his hands and weapon. And maybe a base also.

Can’t figure out the leather straps tbh, struggling to make them good without relying on bottle colors 🤣 think I’ll just edge highlight and see what’s up from there maybe.

[sharp fiber]

All y’all laying down actual colour on your minis on day one of this PAL and I’m over here drybrushing mine so I can see what the heck is going on on this tiny dood.

[carmine pelican]

Lots of hair. Lots of axe. Typical dwarf life. 🤣

[vestal mesa]

Would a black leather be achievable to make it contrast more from the skin?

[dire harness]

Purpley black leather?

[carmine pelican]

I tried so hard and got not far

For real tho I couldn’t get a leather tone and kinda gave up lol

I know what you mean tho but I think I’ll try to solve it with edge highlights

[sleek solar]

If you mix red and black you'll get a brown. Move it towards tan by adding yellow Ochre in

[carmine pelican]

I tried ok🤣 haha

[hybrid rune]

Definitely paint dependent. My red and black go towards purple, not brown.

[sleek solar]

What paints are you using?

[hybrid rune]

VMC Black and VGC Blood Red

[sleek solar]

They could be proprietary blends, where the black and red both have a bit of blue in them.

Though Vallejo do make artists acrylics so they should tell you what's in the bottle

[hoary aspen]

Ok, probably should smother it out a little more but I'm a lazy ass and will call it done 😁
Pretty happy with some elements, with some no, normal😉
It's my first paint-along, how to apply for points?

[sharp fiber]

Nice OSL in a dark/desaturated palette - reminds me of the art style of Darkest Dungeon.

You apply in the #request-points but just make sure to mention it’s for this PAL

[carmine pelican]

The sigil looks super cool dude! 🤘🏾🤘🏾

[hoary aspen]

Thanks pals 😄

[dire harness]

So fast and looks amazing

Limited palette really helps the mood

[past sand]

Had a headstart because my mini has been sitting on my window board for about a year primed with zenital...

[past sand]

For a while I did everything with just YMC+BW, and some brown tones were impossible to get. Bought umber and sienna inks just for that to extend the range to browns.
For this PAL, I am using Raw Sienna for the ochre, and I am able to get a decent leather with it. As I understand it, the "real" brown pigments have some properties that are pretty unique.

For some reason, there is no ochre Liquitex ink...

Let's appreciate the fact that there are pre-mixed leather tones straight from the bottle (in normal circumstances) 😄

[hybrid rune]

Bit more progress.

[dire harness]

Beautiful

[hybrid rune]

Cheers man. 🙂

[sleek solar]

The Zorn palette creates some really beautiful end results, I think this is my favorite PAL to watch so far.

[sleek solar]

Looks great, I particularly like the lantern

[carmine pelican]

Shut up that looks sick 🤣🤣

[carmine pelican]

I use three different browns normally for leather. It’s been exposing to fail mixing colors so badly hahah but yeah thanks for the advice 🤘🏾

[hoary aspen]

Thanks man, appreciate that 🙂

[hoary aspen]

Wow, that's impressive!

[muted solstice]

Just started with zorning this dude

Might be challenging with some of the details, but I'll see 😄

[muted solstice]

Slapping on some skin tones. This palette works pretty good for skin tones! And I'm in love with my new scale 75 artists paints ❤️

[muted solstice]

And an initial pass on the hair!

Good night 😴

[past sand]

He's coming along...

[past sand]

2 am here... good night 🙂

There's potential for more extreme highlights without going into white/desaturation... 🙂

[sharp fiber]

Wow once the hair went on everything popped! Also really dig that olive green tunic.

[carmine pelican]

Looks pretty dope dude. I’m struggling with everything becoming desaturated but yours looks poppy as

[hybrid rune]

Love the pale skin!

[hybrid rune]

Very nice! Red skin was a great idea for this palette.

[hybrid rune]

Somehow missed this. Finished on day two? Unheard of!
Really digging the vibe you went with. Feels like he's in a mine.

[carmine pelican]

Weird blown out photo but, he’s close-ish now! Need to tackle weapon and helmet next

[hybrid rune]

Another speedster! Looking awesome dude. Paint matches the figure really well. Getting some classic fantasy vibes from this one.

[carmine pelican]

Thanks dude! Despite you talking to me about cameras it seems I still can’t take photos that aren’t overexposed or dark. Lmao.

[hybrid rune]

That's entirely your fault for assuming I know what I'm talking about.

[hybrid rune]

See how the focus "pops" at certain distances? That's the camera switching to the wide angle lens.
Keep it far enough away that it doesn't do that (the main lens has a much higher resolution).
Use bright, cold light directly on the mini. As close to the camera angle as possible.
Focus on the mini and optionally use the 2x zoom (which is essentially just a crop).
Manually lower the brightness a tad. With a dark background you might want to lower it quite a bit, as the phone will try to expose for that.

[hoary aspen]

Thanks, I'm super happy you get this vibe - that was the initial idea 😊

[hoary aspen]

Looks great, has some oldschool vibe for me. Like Conan and so on

[carmine pelican]

Tyvm I shall try:)

[muted solstice]

Thanks! 😄 Yeah I'm now at a point where I start believing that it can work out ok

[past sand]

I'm convinced this is because I'm using inks (lots of pigments) of pure pigments. You wouldn't believe how intense the Quinacridone Magenta is. I love it.

The downside is that the mixing ratios are weird, because some pigments are overpowering others to the extreme. 1:1 red:yellow (sienna) just looks red. 1:8 reads orange...

Hard to mix reproducible if you don't want to end up with a huge amount of mixed paint.

[past sand]

Yes, totally Conan! 🙂

[past sand]

...or a lazy / convenient one... >.<

Unsure in which direction to take the horn plates/claws... like... make them bright yellow, or rather bony/desaturated to have some contrast...?

[past sand]

Progress for today... higher highlights, and bone-colored claws/ridge.

[muted solstice]

Made some more progress on the tunic and pants. Might need to tweak the NMM on the metal rings a bit later on.

[muted solstice]

Nice job on the skin, the vibrant red highlights are working out well!

[muted solstice]

That's starting to look really awesome! Love the classic look in this one 😄 Conan or He-Man vibes ❤️

[past sand]

Thanks! I value-sketched the highlights (multiple times now) with white, and then put the red over it after it dried. That Naphtal Red is semi-transparent, so if I add more or less glaze medium, I have total control over how much white or any edges shine through.

[hybrid rune]

Tiny, nearly invisible update today, hence the before/after.
Airbrush glazed some pure yellow over the whole thing to add some warmth.

[past sand]

Nice! It looks like it also enhanced the contrast? (Unless that's a camera thing...)

[muted solstice]

Skin tones are looking really good 👌

[hybrid rune]

That's probably just the photo. 😊

[hybrid rune]

Thanks! Time to block in some of the other stuff to see the context.

[past sand]

It is done.

The inside of the weapon is supposed to be fluorescent green, lore-wise... Suppose that's not possible without breaking the PAL rules.

Comments & Critique please for highlight placement, because that's where I struggle / want to improve.

[hoary aspen]

Only highlight placement or nmm generally? 😉

[hoary aspen]

For my much better, blend everything nicely ( but this on the left was already awesome 😄 )

[hybrid rune]

Thanks dude. It's much closer to my intended skin tone now as well. Still lots of blending to do though, especially on arms, neck and backside, but the photo is quite forgiving of that. 🙂

[past sand]

both is fine 🙂

Actually I couldn't really decide if it is metal or some kind of very advanced alien plastic/alloy kind of thing. It is a xeno beast after all. ˆ.ˆ I'm not sure what it is, lore-wise... I painted it as if it was metal. It does not look that shiny, right?

[hybrid rune]

Always surprised by the green you can get from black and yellow. 😄

[hoary aspen]

Ok. I'm not an expert in any case, I will share only my feelings about it 😉
As alien material- great. As normal metal, it lacks contrast in some areas imo. I will go more to blacks here and there and add more white especially on edges. I really like the front part of this wrist thing on the left arm- you catch it perfectly, the other side of it should go faster to dark or even start darker?
The place I will give more love is the right shoulder pad 🙂

[past sand]

Thanks for the feedback, really appreciate it!
Hm, I had more white on it (actually broader edges), but close-up it looked... unclean? So I smoothed it down again with gray to leave only a sliver. Maybe I need to ignore what it looks like up-close...?

Most of the metal parts are so tiny/narrow and has so many different shapes that I struggle a) to understand where the light goes, and b) brush control to actually get a transition going in so small. Ok, I see a chance to improve the back of the left arm thing and the back of the belt. There's some space to shove paint around...

With shoulder pad, do you mean the patch on the shoulder that looks like an M, or the whole thing?

[hoary aspen]

I had the same issue with unclean white highlights. The only way I know is to do it again 😄 so soothing, highlighting and repeating to results I like 😉
The shoulder pad with "m" . It's looking like flat gray with some lighter touch on the upper part.
It has a nice, sphere shape, so maybe try copying some images from the internet? https://pin.it/7FhmhbDCS
I'm struggling with reflections placement too so can't add much more 😉
Good luck, you can do it

[hybrid rune]

The secret to butter smooth blends is to just take out of focus images, apparently.
I'll do better next time.

[median isle]

da mini imma use for dis, imma try at least 🐗 💦

[hoary aspen]

This violet cape on the goblin? You get it by glazing red over gray? Or what? I didn't even know I could get that tone in Zorn 😄
Ps: troll face and goblin are in focus, also nice smooth blends 👌

[carmine pelican]

That looks a lot like wfs iron breaker I thi k they were called. They were unstoppable and I still have ptsd. Is it those?

[past sand]

It looks really smooth from here 🙂

[past sand]

Thanks!

[median isle]

dey 'Ardboyz 🐗 🤙

gang gang

black ork, too

theres also ironjawz ardboyz

[carmine pelican]

Black orks is what I was thinking of yeah. Such dope models all of those

Peak ork

[median isle]

peak ork indeed 🤩

i love them

i might not do full black armor sadly because it'd be like kinda cheating my way into zorn lol

thankfully theres freedom in warhammer but theres also a lotta people that painted other themes on ardboyz

[median isle]

mildly interesting but i got exactly vermillion and yellow ochre kek

im not one to have exact colors all da time since i got a limited bunch of paints

[median isle]

a real black ork 🐗

[carmine pelican]

Vantablack boi

[median isle]

he got that night elf racial skill 🕵️ 🌒

[hybrid rune]

For some reason my red and black go quite violet. So the cape is just red, black and white.
It's also very contextual. Does not look as violet on the palette.

[median isle]

i think ur red turns into violet because the black desaturates da fug outta the red and turns it into that hue

black is a magical thing that turns your yellow into dark green 👻

huh i can achieve lime-ish green with black-white-yellow, i see

this might be good for nmm

[carmine pelican]

Okey zorn friends. I’m calling this done. Any nitpicking appreciated, I found this whole challenge quite tricky if I’m honest.. but I do like the completed mini overall

[median isle]

the photo is giga bright but i feel like u did good, even though i'd have connected many of those muscles and not isolate them via shading 🐸

for da most part, the muscles are p fine i think

i feel like the helmet is a tad too whiteish

but it might be due to da lighting on the photo

the color palette is tough by choice so i wont comment too much on that since you're giga limited on colors

i do feel like a bunch of the highlights are a bit too bright or they just have a lot of highlight

[carmine pelican]

Photo does not look like that on my phone hahah. I’ll try to take some other shots.

Fucking photography

[hoary aspen]

I like the photo in general much more 😄 like I said before, the oldschool vibe of this mini is dope 😄

[carmine pelican]

Yeah photo is shit again. I’ll redeem myself tomorrow

[past sand]

I assume and hope it is not exactly vermillion... 😄
That would be quite poisonous. Contains mercury sulfide.

[dire harness]

If you want nitpicking, start with a less blown out photo but also I know you can do a bit better on the axe blade, the reflection just seems a bit odd to have these two large equally bright reflections with a line of shadow in the middle. And I say this because I know you can do better :p

[carmine pelican]

I feel attacked

Also yeah you’re right I legit slapped that on and said fuck it

I shall fix blade and take non shit photos.

Thanks all for pushing:)

[dire harness]

Haha, only because you asked for criticism and I felt like you could take it! The rest of the model is really cool, just that the axe is really a focal point and i know you could do better

A good axe

[muted solstice]

sexy axe is sexy

[tidal owl]

Right let's figure this out

[obtuse drum]

Oooiiiiilllsssss

[leaden dirge]

mamikons nmm is really recognizable. sometimise it is looking odd but i like it

guys may i use pigments for basing or should i limit myself to trio of colours?

[obtuse drum]

You'll make a yellow ochre or grey base and you'll like it

[leaden dirge]

plan was dark red base with ochre/orangy pigment

[obtuse drum]

You got any of that yellow ochre pigment?

[leaden dirge]

yeah i do have

vallejo rust mixed with yellow sand

[tidal owl]

Hmm so tried to use the thicker texture of the oils and stipple them on to give it quite a painterly look. Don't love how it reads on camera

[scenic cedar]

almost feels like it's too small to use that stippling without that looking like the wrong material, but I do like the colors, will you try to blend it?

[tidal owl]

Yeah I think I'm gonna have to. Let's see what happens. I mean at worst it doesn't turn out the way I want but I'm for sure learning something

[tidal owl]

Okay I think I managed to improve some things using some of the reductive techniques I usually use with oils. But this face is gonna be interesting, the paints keep activating on top of each other

[scenic cedar]

Now I miss the bright colors 😅

[obtuse drum]

zorn with neon yellow and neon red. toss in some vanta black

[tidal owl]

Yeah I am gonna go back and highlight the out of shadow parts a bit. In hindsight there was a much smarter way to do this.

[past sand]

I don't think I'm really in a place to criticise. I'm a big fan of your painting style actually. Always very clean and detailed but still smooth. I voted for you in the duel with Gnillab 🙂

I'm not a big fan of desaturated red (as you might have guessed from my contribution), but that's mostly a matter of taste. The only thing I would improve is the yellow thing on the emblem. That could have more detail. Not sure what it is actually, could be an eye? And maybe the skull could be even less saturated to differentiate it more from the skin.

[hybrid rune]

Woah!

[past sand]

I know I know. But you won after all, right? What's a single data point in a sea of statistics? 😉

Don't hate me. They were both really well done. But... also... did I mention I like saturated colors...?

[carmine pelican]

Thanks a lot. That’s super nice. And yea the yellow thing is a turd. I started thinking it would be a yellow metal plate. Then half way through I thought oh no maybe gold and in the end it’s like a weirdly yellow doo doo

I’ll try to fix it 🤣

[hybrid rune]

Update for tonight. Mostly refinements and started on loin cloth and appendages.

[muted solstice]

Making progress! Some rough nmm on the shield and horn trim for now, but I'm quite liking the brass look of the yellow ochre.

[hybrid rune]

Yeah, that brass looks dope!

[muted solstice]

Nice job! Love where this is going! 👌

[muted solstice]

Thanks man 😄

[past sand]

I don't want to know what a doo doo is.

Hm, what are the rules? If I already got points for my xeno beast and then I later decide to improve it after feedback, is that ok? Because requesting points means it is finished, right?

[past sand]

That mini is so adorable 🙂 It needs some training though. Or less beer.

[carmine pelican]

It’s very good bro. For a troll I hope you plan to dirtify him a bit though 🙂 🤣

[sharp fiber]

Great light direction and extremely smooth transitions!

[carmine pelican]

Super nice color scheme you picked.

I don’t know how you made any of those colors

Skills

[muted solstice]

Thanks! There's lots of ochre throughout 😄 Small amounts of red and black got me a long way

[carmine pelican]

@past sand @dire harness good on you for pushing 🤘🏾

#general-miniatures message

[past sand]

Wow, much better (including the photo). Totally awesome now 🙂

[carmine pelican]

Sick thanks 🙏🏼

[median isle]

nmm is a lotta fun 🐸

[median isle]

i decided to stop because i was getting nauseous 😵‍💫

[hybrid rune]

I'm totally in love with the sculpt. Guy could do with some exercise for sure. But couldn't we all. 😄

[hybrid rune]

I have some plans, but nothing extreme. What did you want to see?
Once I start painting the "scales" he'll hopefully look less clean.

Also, I think perhaps the photos are a little forgiving, it's not that clean.

[carmine pelican]

Discolouration, scars, dirt

General gross stuff 🙂

[dire harness]

Yeah looking so good now, are you happier with it?

[hybrid rune]

Yo, I missed this. Awesome dude, solid improvement!

[carmine pelican]

Yeh for a random 32mm I think it’s pretty cool. Don’t think i sunk more than 6-7 hours in it and for me Thats not a lot 🤣 thanks again

[leaden dirge]

here we go

[leaden dirge]

current progress

[hybrid rune]

Solid start. 😎

[leaden dirge]

making orange was hard

[obtuse drum]

ooh baby look at that environment reflection

[leaden dirge]

i thought ochre with red will give me orange

instead i got puke colour

[obtuse drum]

which red?

[hybrid rune]

Bloody Red doesn't always mix as you'd expect in my experience.

[leaden dirge]

scarlet red

[obtuse drum]

some reds lean bluer

[leaden dirge]

bloody red is a

https://tenor.com/view/youre-a-fucking-disappointment-soldier-boy-jensen-ackles-the-boys-im-so-disappointed-in-you-gif-26161747

scarlet red is orange red

also changing black alowed me to do some greens or blues

because vallejo one gave true grey

[obtuse drum]

yeah i picked up some ivory black to play with

[hybrid rune]

Scarlet Blood is what I mean. I use the same red. 🙂 #1199945675874521098 message

VGC red color names confuse the heck out of me. 😄
Scarlet Blood is redder than Scarlet Red...

[leaden dirge]

fuck

i used scarlet blood

not scarlet red

[hybrid rune]

Yeah, Scarlet Red would be much too dark for this, I think.

[obtuse drum]

game color?

[hybrid rune]

Yes

[obtuse drum]

that shit looks like quin red, really blue leaning

[leaden dirge]

yeah

[hybrid rune]

Scarlet Red is almost burgundy. Scarlet Blood is like RED red.

[leaden dirge]

scarlet red tend to dry rather muddy

[obtuse drum]

naphtol red is the closest hobby pigment probably to vermillion. people usually use cadmium light red

[leaden dirge]

i cant explain what is wrong with it but it is desaturated red instead of dark red

at least on black primer

[hybrid rune]

What about pyrrole? I don't have it, but from pictures I've seen it's intriguing.

[obtuse drum]

that could work too bloody red looks pyrolle

i think it's still more blue tho

but i've never used it because all my paints are naphtol or quin red

[hybrid rune]

Jatbi had an awesome chart of red paints and PA Pyrrole and VGC Scarlet Blood were very close as I recall.

[obtuse drum]

yeah

it's hard to tell on the monitor

scarlet blood is probably their pyrole and bloody red their naphtol

[hybrid rune]

#1146276043410382959 message

Note the photo is unevenly lit, but it's a nice comparison still.

[leaden dirge]

nocturnal red seems like type of red i want

[obtuse drum]

that's really interesting it almost seems the opposite of what i thought

that's why i just prefer using scale artist because it says what pigments it uses haha

[leaden dirge]

also ak ochre sucks

used gold brown instead

[leaden dirge]

i accidentally made pure blanshitsu cloak doing underpaint for red cloak

[dire harness]

Looks awesome

[leaden dirge]

result for today, maybe will work on him later tonight

[sharp fiber]

That looks great!

[muted solstice]

Great work! Looks very good already 👌

[scenic cedar]

Cloak is looking like made of copper

[past sand]

Lucky you. For me, photos usually work the other way around. I don't see some splotches with the naked eye, but in the photo, it is all revealed 😄

[past sand]

Nice color (\edit: I mean the golden-ish borders that look so shiny). Ochre is a pretty good basis for NMM gold I heard, so that mini fits the Zorn palette well. I wonder if the missing yellow is a problem, but then the last time I tried (and failed) NMM gold, my spouse would say it is too yellow 😄

[past sand]

I'd like to share a favorite bookmark of mine that explains color mixing really well (with helpful excercises and some theoretical background on pigments): https://goldenartistcolors.com/resources/color-mixing-guide

Of course it can be done with other brands as well, does not have to be Golden... but pure paints help 🙂

I'd love to do a YMCalong at some point (there are too many paint-alongs right now though).

[hybrid rune]

Bit of work on the scales today.

[leaden dirge]

and he is done

[tidal owl]

Wow mate that's really pretty

[hoary aspen]

Looks great, very convincing reflections and seems your brush control is top notch 🙂

[carmine pelican]

Sick dude. Gj!

[sleek solar]

Absolutely crushed it! Looks great!

[muted solstice]

Fantastic work!

And mine is done as well!

[obtuse drum]

I'll be doing this

[hybrid rune]

Aaand mine is done. For the day.

[muted solstice]

Starting to look very good already man! 👌

[scenic cedar]

Same here

[hybrid rune]

Cheers buddy. 😊

[scenic cedar]

Sooo good 👏

[past sand]

The cape looks like velvet ❤️

[scenic cedar]

Yeah it has that nice shine on it, very nice color

[past sand]

Is that from KDM?

[obtuse drum]

yeah it's the gigalion

[past sand]

That will be interesting 🙂

[hybrid rune]

Brilliant mate. Love the cape!

[hybrid rune]

Outstanding. This really shows how the palette creates coherence. The flowing beard is straight out of a shampoo commercial.

[muted solstice]

Thanks mate! I'm quite impressed with the range of this palette as well 😄

[carmine pelican]

I thought it was a royal pain to use the palette if I’m honest 🤣 all these minis are looking sick tho you guys are crushing it

[hoary aspen]

I really like all pieces here. This Zorn pallet adds very nice cohesion to all minis 🙂

[sleek solar]

Right? It's just a really nice palette.

[median isle]

so far 🐗

[past sand]

What makes it tedious for me is that I tend to mix not enough of a certain color, or it dries after a few minutes, so I don't have to mix the same color again, and this time I have to fit the previous color.
So if I dawdled around with more than two until I get what I need by eyeballing it, I tend to not get the exact color again that I had before. Especially nasty for transitions.
And if the color I need has already dried on the miniature, I can't match it, but I need something lighter, to match the tone after drying... Purple and blue are notorious for this.

So then I feel that I must somehow improve the logistics on my palette, because after half a session it is full with stuff I mixed without any visible system... When you watch videos of artists, their palettes always look pretty systematic.

[carmine pelican]

If you don’t have a wet palette, make a dyi one. It’s mega easy and surprisingly good

Happy to help if you need a pointer

[scenic cedar]

Or try a retardant

When I work with flow improver it takes longer for the paint to dry

[deep marsh]

I started a model 3 days ago and just noticed it fits the colors perfectly!!

And I literally just noticed that my favourite red is vermillion

Oh

but I used a tiny tiny bit of blue, is that ok?

@dire shuttle

[dire shuttle]

This is within the 2 month period of the PAL so yes its fine

[deep marsh]

and the like 5 dots of blue? its an xwing and r2d2 couldn`t miss

Now where I think about it I should have done bb8, but I hadn`t joined the server yet when I started

[past sand]

I have one, which is dripping wet, but we have < 30% air humidity in winter...

Also, inks become too liquid on the wet palette, and dry too fast without one.

I have an everlasting and I love it

is fine in summer

Retardant is a good idea... haven't tried that yet.

[hybrid rune]

I don't know if @dire shuttle misunderstood or if maybe I did, but usually you can't begin a PAL with a half painted mini and when it's limited palette you can't use colors from outside of that palette. That's sort of the whole idea behind this exercise, to push yourself to solve the puzzle of "how do I paint these blue bits without any blue?". 🙂

[dire harness]

I think you’d just use black and white to paint r2d2 ‘blue’

[hybrid rune]

I think the question is if they can join with a mini that already has blue on it, unless I'm misunderstanding?

[sleek solar]

The partially completed part is the sticking point though, gotta start primed or unpainted

[dire shuttle]

Appreciate it but no I didn't misunderstand. Considering this is a Zorn palette and there is blue I guessed they were going to repaint the color using the permitted for the challenge.

I also allowed him to participate since he started it within the month of February not before.

[hybrid rune]

Very cool! Sorry, I didn't mean to impose! 😊

[dire shuttle]

Alright let's try this again. @deep marsh @hybrid rune .

This Paint along is for a limited palette only. So red yellow black white .
No blue.
You can mix a color to resemble blue

The fact you had 5 dots of blue meant you'd be painting it over

If you are not painting over the blue. Please pick a different model or participate in a different paint along.

It is not in the spirit of PALs to start a model and participate, but considering this person was 1- new and 2- using a color that isn't part of the Zorn palette and needs to be painted over. There was no harm in allowing them to join.

If you have a problem or do not understand my logic here. Please let me know.

[obtuse drum]

Can I use purple green and magenta instead?

Nobody else just me

[dire shuttle]

That's the corn palette sir

[obtuse drum]

I thought it was the Korn palette

[dire shuttle]

Oh ah ah

[hybrid rune]

I think this will be it. Might do a last round of refinements after basing, but not sure I can be bothered. 🙂

Starting the base.

[muted solstice]

That looks fantastic

[obtuse drum]

Them cheeks

[hybrid rune]

Yeah, that highlight is a little rough. I actually redid the butt slightly after taking the photo since the only feedback from my son was that I hadn't painted the ass-wart.

[obtuse drum]

Gotta paint that ass wart

[hybrid rune]

No argument from me, forgetting that was not my proudest moment.

[hybrid rune]

Think this is it for me.

[obtuse drum]

Noice green

[chilly ember]

Looks like purple and green green. Very interesting. Result is looking stellar 👏

[muted solstice]

Amazing end result @hybrid rune, great job!

How did you get that purple colour? Mixing red and black?

[hybrid rune]

Cheers guys, appreciate it.

[dire harness]

Lovely j especially like the belly

[hybrid rune]

It's red, black and white. Basecoat is probably 50/50 red/black and then slowly adding more black and white for highlights.

[muted solstice]

What kind of red did you use? Probably leans towards a colder red than mine, as I couldn't reproduce that colour with the colours on my palette.

I used a S75 Artist Primary Red, pure naphtol red pigment

[hybrid rune]

VGC Scarlet Blood. But I think the magic is in the black as well, as the VMC Black and Titanium White produce a very cold grey, so naturally it'll lean purple when red is added.

The flipside is I couldn't relly produce a proper brown. Struggled a lot with the loin cloth as I wanted that to read brownish, but I kept getting either the skin color or purple.

[muted solstice]

Ah thanks, yeah that makes sense that it would produce purple with those colours.

The loin cloth definitely reads as a reddish brown to me, so you did a good job there!

[dire harness]

Yeah loin cloth instantly looks brown in the context of the mode

Model

[vestal mesa]

This is the closest I have to vermillon and yellow ochre, what do you reckon? Will it Zorn all right 🖌️?

[muted solstice]

Sure, go for it! Your test samples seem good enough to me

[vestal mesa]

Yeah, could not fit all combos on such small space (away from painting desk at the moment) but it seems like a good start.

I lack a suitable mini though

[vestal mesa]

I think I found a good one, glad I joined, I am having a blast so far.

[vestal mesa]

Stopping here tonight, can't wait to get back to it!

[sleek solar]

Looking good!

[past sand]

That's a very good green! 🙂

[hybrid rune]

Real nice. Those paints mix a very good green and orange. Good choice for this model.

[vestal mesa]

Indeed, it was quite a surprise to discover that one of my 'brown' bottle would in fact make the perfect 'yellow' 💛

I have not unlocked a good purple yet though...I suppose it's difficult to get the best of both worlds

[vestal mesa]

Progress of the day. Not sure what to do with the arm jewellery. Do you have any suggestions?

[past sand]

silver?

[muted solstice]

You could treat the lower arm bracers as leather and perhaps go for a reddish or light brown. The rings on the upper arm could be metal, so either silver or gold could be options I think.

[hybrid rune]

I would definitely just make them silver or gold. Fits well with the theme and fairly easy to pull off at this scale.

[vestal mesa]

I ruled the metals off because of the palette restriction. Never really achieved nmm so I figured it would be even harder in zorn. But some quick tips might convince me to try.

[hoary aspen]

In this scale it should be pretty easy to make it looks nice. Just make all sharp edges very light (white almost) . And try to add other highlights in places depending on shape (round, flat ect)
Good luck 🙂

[muted solstice]

Maybe not the best example, but here's my second ever nmm attempt with the zorn palette: #1199945675874521098 message. This was a fairly quick job, but I think it works ok because you don't have to do perfect nmm to make it look like metal on this small scale.

[hybrid rune]

Bracelet and shoulder here is literally just three or four levels.

Start fairly dark, add small midtone, smaller highlight and tiny finish of white. Boom, metal.

[vestal mesa]

Thank you all, I have no choice but to try it now...

[vestal mesa]

Ok, I tried something with no risk. Mainly leather with some tiny metal parts. You were right, at this scale...no one will care and hopefully the focus is somewhere else on the mini.

I will varnish her and take some proper pics tomorrow but I am happy with how it turned out. Thank you for your help!

[muted solstice]

Nicely done! 👏

[hallow lance]

Ready to try this out

[hallow lance]

Progress for today

[vestal mesa]

Final pics! It was a great PAL, thanks a lot for your help and inspiration!

[orchid bough]

Nice job finding purple!

[hybrid rune]

Very nice. You made great use of the full palette.

[sleek solar]

Who the hell are these a-holes doing green and purple minis with a Zorn palette? Do it yellow and red like the rest of us lazy schmucks!

[hallow lance]

Haha I had no plan but was just trying to see what colours I could get. I'm actually struggling with browns the most!

[obtuse drum]

Nobody said we had to use the yellow And red right?

[past sand]

Nope. Even though it might be more educational ˆ.ˆ

[tacit juniper]

Finally getting to painting, first some zenithal!

[obtuse drum]

Here is my palette

[obtuse drum]

I put some colors on him

[sleek solar]

Oh God, Glangho is ahead of me? I need to get a wriggle on

[obtuse drum]

I have four models and a diorama for goji I need to go go go

[obtuse drum]

I think I'm going to do something dumb and make my goji entry zorn too since the models I picked are part of this guy's set

[gentle oracle]

I have still not decided which mini to paint, but i managed at least to paint a chart with the colours i get when mixing. I think i have to be careful with the black, but i really like the colours i get

[scenic cedar]

Beautiful chart

[obtuse drum]

Now he has annoyingly painted fur

Note to self, paint the black fur first not last

[obtuse drum]

I have decided against doing more zorn. This is the last time lmao

I feel a bit bad about the base because the lion came out really well but I'm just done trying to make up colors lol

Going to slap some preseppe on here and try to hide my shame

[sleek solar]

No, wrong, you should do MORE Zorn

ONLY ZORN

[obtuse drum]

Nah zorn is lame

[obtuse drum]

He's done

[sharp fiber]

Love the colour of the stone

[obtuse drum]

Thanks it's black and white

[sharp fiber]

Hahah the shadow transitions are very smooth!

[dire harness]

Beautiful

[hoary aspen]

More photos please 😄 looks so nice !

[obtuse drum]

https://discord.com/channels/236042005929656320/1211113526333014036

[tacit juniper]

Red base

[blissful river]

My mini for this

[blissful river]

Finished

[past sand]

Huh, it looks blue-ish O.o That's interesting.

[orchid bough]

That’s amazing

[loud stump]

Setting down to paint these guys

[loud stump]

Probably uninspired thus far but I have no idea how you guys are making blue. I read online it is mostly a grey but after 45 min of trying to mix different tones, the closest I got was a stone gray. It’s blowing my mind how rich the green is some of you got. Can someone tell me the secret?

Are you basing in one color and then layering with glazes until it turns a different color? Or are you mixing paints on a pallet and then painting straight on?

[obtuse drum]

It is highly dependent on the black you use. Some pigments are cooler than others

And without knowing what pigment is in your paint it's hard to tell

Also color is relative so the cool grey next to other colors can appear more blue than it really is

[loud stump]

I’m using Abaddon Black from the Citadel line, but that makes me feel a little better knowing I wasn’t far off with the grays…

[past sand]

It really is a matter of your personal preference and what you feel comfortable with. Just pick a technique, maybe watch a tutorial and then try it out.

For my zorn entry I mainly mixed on the palette and wet blended using glaze medium (mainly to keep the colors liquid a little longer). I would say mixing on the palette is faster than glazing.

[loud stump]

Thanks. I’ll give it some effort today after work…I was also thinking maybe I was struggling because my pallet was too wet

[sterile wharf]

Yes! I'm in. I've been wanting to do more Zorn pallette in my 2d art. Haven't done it on a fig yet.

[obtuse drum]

That's a sweet mini

[sterile wharf]

https://ca.creaturecaster.com/en-us/products/patriarch-of-onslaught-berserker

[hallow lance]

Calling him done!

[carmine pelican]

That’s gorgeous dude

[sterile wharf]

Getting sloppy. I knew that ivory black is a terrible staining color. Almost removed the entire preglaze with the wipe step. Going to let it tack up a bit from this stage. This was all done with the same brush to help muddy it a little bit and harmonize across the model. "If paint goes anywhere, it goes everywhere" -Wappel

[gentle oracle]

Thinking about what to paint for this paintalong always let me back to the cult faction of Freebooter's Fate. So i finally bought the Starter Set and started on the first miniature

[dire harness]

I think i wont make this in time unfortunately due to golden goji, but will try and do a zorn palette for the oil along

[gentle oracle]

The first miniature is finished (i know that i only get points once, but i will try to paint the other three this month as well)

[sterile wharf]

that looks great!

[sterile wharf]

I'm done mine too! I hope you like it.

i am in freaking love with the way the yellow ochre turned out on the axes. im defintely using that again in the future

and as you can see by the blue balance between pics, im still learning how to take pics and fiddling with camera/light settings. I think i like the low light front picture. i think i washed the model out with too much light on the back shot

[scenic cedar]

It’s happening

[scenic cedar]

Finished 😅

[muted solstice]

Hot damn, 45 minutes later and it's done 🤣

Well done @scenic cedar! Looks awesome!

[scenic cedar]

It’s lack of time and patience 😂 I had to rush for my course

[scenic cedar]

Now that I think about it maybe 90min PAL won’t be that hard 😅

I just have to be very detached

[loud otter]

love this! the skulls are awesome

[sleek solar]

Okay, my guy doing 3d printing for me printed the stand I wanted in fdm not resin so I'm not going to get this project started. Gonna have to do it another time.

[sterile wharf]

thank you!

[sharp fiber]

Yooo hahah my phone is turning this guy into Donald Trump Orange. Just blocking in some colours tonight and getting a feel for the palette.

[sharp fiber]

Brought some colours up further and placed some (eek!) nmm highlights. I have never done nmm really.

[sharp fiber]

And stopping here for the evening

[still pike]

Oki doki, I'm in

[still pike]

Very exciting experience

[sharp fiber]

Nice!

[sharp fiber]

Done!

I’m pretty proud of the axe on the left as it was my first real attempt at NMM. Not so much the one on the right, was going for more of a black steel/forged woodcutter’s look and I don’t think I pulled it off.