#MagYelBlaWhi-Along Jul - Aug

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warped frigate
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Paint a miniature using only Magenta, yellow, black and white. Any miniature or terrain welcome. Please note if mini is under 25mm, you will be required to paint 3 small ( under 25mm) or 1 above that size.

As usual : Only minis not previously painted can be used. Primed and prep work is fine if completed ahead of time.

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@thorny oriole @copper forum @untold hedge @boreal rapids @static ether @flat river

untold hedge
boreal rapids
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Will prepare... in a month or two....

thorny oriole
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the magic palette. black+yellow=green, black+magenta=purple. Basically all hues but blue

static ether
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Yiss. Any criteria what kind of yellow or magenta?

boreal rapids
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I prefer ochre to yellow. Most of my yellows suck for coverage but I'll manage.

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But someone mentioned it has to be a yellow.

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That fuscia looks pretty cloae to magenta.

thorny oriole
# static ether Yiss. Any criteria what kind of yellow or magenta?

for yellow, I like to use the yellowest yellow I have (not leaning green, not leaning orange). In my collection, this is cadmium yellow light, but just go for what you like. Hopefully it makes a decent green when mixed with black. And hopefully your magenta turns purple when mixed with black to give you lots of options

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in my limited (ha!) experience, ochre makes a pretty drab green when mixed with black, but hey it's still a green.

static ether
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Gotcha so will check some mixes pepecheer

flat river
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Awesome!

untold hedge
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Hopefully these will be ok

old sand
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Yesss gonna join this!

static ether
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Is there a way to pint these paintalongs so I dont forget?

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They seem to dissappear after some time MonkaS

untold hedge
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What I tend to do is at the start of a month just look at all the ones with that tag and I can then see if I have any I need to start/finish off this month

thorny oriole
autumn mason
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Is this palette the same as a "zorn" palette? Or does zorn use red instead of magenta? or something 🙂

warped frigate
thorny oriole
autumn mason
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I like super saturated. 😁 It gives us more options.

shrewd steeple
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I will try to remember this one. Could be fun to try something different. I usually use way too many colours when I paint.

thorny oriole
shrewd steeple
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Should work!

thorny oriole
# shrewd steeple

probably! That magenta looks like it could have some white in it but it should work. Does it go purple when you mix a little black in?

shrewd steeple
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Don’t know. Haven’t tried.

dawn cairn
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This idea of a reduced palette is interesting, I would like to do this exercise, something I haven't tried yet, but I need to complete some of the PALs I'm already participating in, but let's see if I can move forward in this direction in the coming weeks. 💪

dawn cairn
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These colors are ok!? 😃

warped frigate
dawn cairn
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I take this opportunity to thank all the moderators and also the friends who participate in PALs, these initiatives are very motivating! You are Top, thank you my friends! 🥰

thorny oriole
dawn cairn
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Do you think any of these are better for this purpose!?

thorny oriole
# dawn cairn

Probably 1 or 3 from the left. Ideally something that makes a nice green when mixed with black

dawn cairn
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Ok, I'll go with Deep Yellow then, thank you very much!

thorny oriole
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I’m kinda obsessed with this palette.

dawn cairn
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I'm going to reserve a small wet palette here just for this event, my everyday palette is a mess…

dawn cairn
dawn cairn
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Something I'm curious to see is that even if we all have the same colors to paint the results will be very different, I think this is incredible!

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I'll probably paint an orc...Pink orc! 💚💜

untold hedge
thorny oriole
untold hedge
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Thanks!

thorny oriole
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I also really like Cadmium Yellow Light Liquitex heavy body now. It’s very yellow (not green / not orange). Mixes well with black for green tones.

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But the Vallejo sun yellow is fine

untold hedge
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Cool - I'm guessing making one yourself is a good way of feeling out the colours for yourself, any tips/know what it's actually called so I can search it?

thorny oriole
static ether
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Do you measure the mixes or is this just rough

thorny oriole
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Just kinda rough

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Like column D and E are basically the same

thorny oriole
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Definitely got some red going on here

boreal rapids
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What coordinate is the base colour of the magenta on the chart?

thorny oriole
thorny oriole
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Above row 0 white is added. Rows 1-4 add black. Then rows 5-7 add white back to the results of row 4 effectively adding progressively lighter gray

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Unfortunate I was heavy handed with the black so not a lot of nuance to see here

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Maybe I’ll make a new chart swapping in Cadmium Yellow Light Liquitex heavy body. And swapping in the black from the Golden SoFlat line as these are what I normally use. (I made this chart before I had the cad yellow and SoFlat black)

boreal rapids
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Looks like I'm using my ak magenta - which is a bit closer to C -1 but I can mix a reddish brown from it. My warcolour magenta doesn't even get close when mixed with yellow.

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I think I can basically get the -1 line. but there is something in the pigment that doesn't reach the 0 line.

thorny oriole
boreal rapids
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Ak in general is very opaque so I wouldn't be surprised.

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I will try mixing with different yellows as I used one coat yellow for this test (and that is probably a mixed pigment as well)

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Might pull out my cadmium yellow just to be certain.

thorny oriole
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I love cadmium yellow

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I’m pretty sure airbrushing with cadmiums is not advised. If you’re using an airbrush it’s worth double checking.

boreal rapids
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I won't be with cadmium

warped frigate
untold hedge
static ether
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Ah I forgot about this already

sturdy scarab
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So is grey primer okay? Or does it need to be white or black?

warped frigate
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Since you could make grey with white and black

sturdy scarab
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This is acceptable?

Base is a different color since it's stripped. I had applied a basecoate to that previously.

sturdy scarab
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This might be a bigger challenge than I thought...

static ether
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Oh nice idea will do one later as well

sturdy scarab
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Entirely stole the idea from further up the thread.
My colors clearly aren't as well pigmented, though.

static ether
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I'm pretty surprised what a vibrant red you get when mixed

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I think I will swap my white though to a Zink White to keep some more saturation. It's not against the spirit to use two whites and two blacks right? Cause I would like to have black ink as final black 👀

thick hatch
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sounds like a great fun, will try!

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is it possible to use warlord purple instead of magenta? they are virtually the same but warlord purple is form game color and behave better

warped frigate
static ether
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Looks the same to me

warped frigate
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The name of that color is silly af tbh. It definitely isn't a purple 🤣

sturdy scarab
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My Vallejo Deep Magenta is more purple than that...

warped frigate
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It's wild.

thick hatch
sturdy scarab
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Oh yeah, I meant Deep Magenta is more purple than the Warlord Purple.

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I'm not gonna use the Deep Magenta for that reason. I have a Kimera Magenta on order, which I hope to use for this.

warped frigate
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I forgot to pick a mini for this.

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I'll just start and find another one to do Gendose just dork and her sea of partially started minis

narrow whale
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Isn't purple one of those weird colors where it is different culturally?

warped frigate
narrow whale
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Arrrgh I'm gonna have to watch the whole hobby cheating colors to figure out which one it was

warped frigate
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Is it maybe because of purple and violet?

narrow whale
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Im probably mis-remembering. but it was one of those wierd fact things that stuck in my head. Im finding as I get older my remembering is more and more incorrect

warped frigate
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Honestly it's quite possible

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There is so much interesting cultural differences

narrow whale
static ether
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Colors in general are strange. Afaik there was a time were some tribes didn't had a word for blue or green or something

narrow whale
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Yeah blue didnt exist for a while cause its not in nature

static ether
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What about the sky and sea though?

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Is what I was wondering. Maybe that's just nature. Or the sky is the word, color doesn't matter

narrow whale
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shrug No idea not a historian. Im just a repository of trivia

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I know the sea is seldom blue

static ether
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!subscribe

narrow whale
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I really want to Cat Facts meme at you now

static ether
static ether
warped frigate
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one of these maybe

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or was it the mohawk robot?

static ether
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Hmmm maybe Penelope 👀

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Robot mohawk has a more interesting pose though

warped frigate
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he definitely does!

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I am printing a spider one sec

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I could maybe sacrifice it to the MYBW challenge

static ether
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Looks like a great choice

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Prolly fun to use some potential wonky colors

static ether
warped frigate
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We shall see I also has tons of already printed stuff I could just use

narrow whale
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Had to prime a base this morning, so figured was a good time to build and prime this guy.

thick hatch
static ether
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@thorny oriole probably forgot to subscribe here 👀

foggy robin
# narrow whale Im probably mis-remembering. but it was one of those wierd fact things that stu...

https://www.scienceabc.com/humans/does-the-language-you-speak-determine-the-color-you-see.html multiple studies on how language affects colorperception.

Makes me wonder if we as painters, with all the names for bottles of paint and the amount we are thinking about and deliberatly seeing colors we expand our color recognision. I feel we do.

Our native language can shape even our non-linguistic abilities which often seem extremely objective, such as color perception. Our thinking is constrained by the language we speak.

sturdy scarab
# foggy robin https://www.scienceabc.com/humans/does-the-language-you-speak-determine-the-colo...

As someone who has worked in print production for near on two decades, I can tell you for certain that if you work with colors your perception of them becomes better.

But this will be the same for any hobby or profession. Two beetles or leaves might look the same to me, but to someone who has intricate knowledge of the subject, they will easily notice differences imperceptible to others.

warped frigate
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Color blocking my entry

narrow whale
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Wow. Completly unexpected model and colors combos and looks great

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Started mixing colors this afternoon

thick hatch
narrow whale
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For me it's figuring out what shades I have available to me. I've never tried any thing like this before. I have the AK figure painting faq book and it has great chapter on mixing single pigments. But these combinations aren't really there

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It's also how much to add. My ratios for black aren't even with the other color. It over powers them almost immediately when the amount of black gets close to the other color. So it's also part learning

narrow whale
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And got the colors down. No where near enough contrast on the skin as I thought I did. But really like the pink and green.

Does the bird work as orange?

narrow whale
sturdy scarab
sturdy scarab
narrow whale
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Im really liking this palette

static ether
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I'm pretty lost. Don't feel like I know what I'm trying to accomplish. It's supposed to be some albino alien thingy.

Any input here? Probably should just basecoat in a light grey and then add some color

warped frigate
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You can probably build up a bit more vibrancy in certain areas to really sell it. But honestly it's cool.

sturdy scarab
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Working on this as well today. My approach has been too messy, trying to block in all areas. Need to clean up a lot and probably redo most of the purple.

warped frigate
sturdy scarab
sturdy scarab
static ether
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That's a great creme color actually

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Thanks for the input I play around some more and trust the process. I think I need some base level to work from and add color to

static ether
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Ended up here for now

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It feels like I should be able to get a nice deep blood red or some nice highlight red but it's not really working. I think I have to underpaint the gradient and then glaze in the color or something. Very strange

sturdy scarab
static ether
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I could be my magenta too. I guess kimera could work better

narrow whale
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For me I pushed the skin highlights today. I'd love some frank c&c on it for where it's not hitting right. I'm thinking about tinting the deep shadow with a desaturated magenta for a bit of color contrast

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BTW loving this for the color mixing to get the shades that I want.

narrow whale
thick hatch
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noble sir meowrick “the great purr” is primed and preshaded for pal

thorny oriole
static ether
thorny oriole
static ether
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The shield does look pretty neat. I can't imagine the squeme here you have to show me 😄

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All my Warhammer knowledge is from blood bowl. There is a team with Saurus and other reptiles actually which is pretty nice

shrewd steeple
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Lizardmen team is awesome but they got nerfed in the latest edition 😞

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But they got a new player type which is nice

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They only had 3, now they have 4

thick hatch
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wip

thick hatch
narrow whale
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Jesus. That light dark contrast

narrow whale
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Liking this a lot better now. Got some feedback to make the shadows darker and ended up redoing the skin. I think it may be a bit too dark overall now. I love the way the big wounds turned out. I have just toes, the branch and some touch hood on the bird. And im thinking of keeping the eyes white. What do you all think about that?

static ether
static ether
narrow whale
thorny oriole
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Assembled and primed with a mix of black and white primer and a drop of magenta ink

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The usual suspects

narrow whale
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Wait! There's six paints! Not fair!

Teasing

static ether
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Also answering my question if two whites and blacks is in spirit of the pal 😆

thick hatch
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sadly i didnt picked cold yellow so i cant play with cold/warm contrast that much

thorny oriole
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First session with dino boi

thorny oriole
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Some more glamor shots. I base coated the scales a dark green (black+yellow) then layered over them in purple (magenta+black) then added a bit more white to the mix. I base coated the skin in magenta plus a touch of black then layered over it in a light green (yellow+black). Any other purple parts showing are the primer coat. I’m thinking I might do the metals in copper and silver.

thorny oriole
narrow whale
thorny oriole
# narrow whale Hmm so I have to ask as I think you would know. I was told that the zinc white ...

Zinc white will still lighten/desaturates other colors but it’s more subtle. And yes Zinc white is quite transparent so it will introduce transparency to the mix. This can be used for glazes/filters. Here’s a pretty good and short demonstration https://youtu.be/_IwYNXDMsnE

Find out the difference and uses of Titanium white and Zinc white paints. Paint used is the heavy body Golden Open paint, however, the information is the same no matter which paint. Good info for acrylic painters and oil painters.

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Similarly, Bone black (PBk9) is a transparent black

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Oh and Marco has a video about zinc white as well https://youtu.be/v4oSsBxgkfk

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thorny oriole
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@narrow whale it’s worth pointing out that this applies to all transparent paints. They’re not good for opaque coverage on their own but they make for more subtle mixes and are great for filtering via glazes

thick hatch
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Mister noble whiskers is ready! i had so much fun painting this project, special thanks for @thorny oriole , your paintjob inspired me a lot!

Generally wanted to put as much attention to composition as i could because lack of colours let me creative freedom and mind space to do it

thorny oriole
thorny oriole
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Went with a pseudo-iridescent look on the plate armor and shield although the shield is hot garbage right now. Also was thinking to do copper as the main metal color but thought that’d compete with the coral color in the scales a bit too much. Lots of refinements still to do but happy with the direction.

static ether
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The spikes are lovely!

static ether
thorny oriole
sturdy scarab
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I came to the conclusion that the mini I'd selected for this simply didn't push the palette very far, so I'll be painting this instead.

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And this is where I'm at so far. Shirt and shorts are pretty much done, I think. Everything else still needs work.

narrow whale
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Looking really nice

static ether
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Great green you got there!

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I glazed some color in the upper body today that's it 😄

thorny oriole
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It still needs work but focused a lot on the shield tonight

static ether
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White from the shield is looking blueish. What scorcery is this. Sick orange gradient

worthy lodge
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For these color PALs, you can use as many different shades of the specified colors, and mix as you want?

narrow whale
narrow whale
thorny oriole
sturdy scarab
untold hedge
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Gonna try and do her for this one

flat river
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Wip

narrow whale
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Super cute

sturdy scarab
# flat river

What an awesome model.

Very impressed with your purple.

flat river
sturdy scarab
thorny oriole
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A little more progress

static ether
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Or something close

flat river
flat river
narrow whale
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I love that mini. And the colors work really well

thorny oriole
thorny oriole
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A little more Dino boi progress. Pushed the highlight on the shield and gave him the typical lighter colored torso. Over highlighted the lower torso for that “happy to see you” look 🫠

thorny oriole
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Staying tru to that sweet ass concept art

sturdy scarab
untold hedge
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yeah it's stunning

thorny oriole
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@sturdy scarab @untold hedge thank you so much! 🙏

narrow whale
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Almost there. Did some glaze bruizing around the wounds and pushed the highlight on the edges a bit. Did the toenails. And touched up the bird and the branch. Just need to do some rust on the trap and I think I'm done

thorny oriole
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Finally finished these 2 guys after months of working on them off and on. They’re painted in this palette so thought I’d share here.

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Here’s the whole group. Painted as individuals but all done in this palette

narrow whale
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Finished product. I really liked this PAL. It forced me to look at my paints differently

narrow whale
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Thanks!

thorny oriole
narrow whale
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Yup. The problem is j just want to work with the kimera only now

sturdy scarab
narrow whale
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Just my inner paint goblin. Ive now got a wall of paint that I am not sure I want to use that often. I also primarily do one offs now. I never did armies or kill teams. At most I would do a group of monsters for DND. So being able to reproduce color schemes was never a problem.

thorny oriole
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I'm definitely a fan of mixing but yeah it easily leads to spending time trying to recreate previous mixes. I'm somewhat mitigating this by making some of my own mixes and putting them in dropper bottles. On the other hand, if I don't recreate a mix exactly perfectly, it's probably adding some interesting tonal variety anyway. I can undersand how this could be annoying for army/batch painting, but like Pirate Yoda, I'm just doing one-offs

tranquil cliff
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Still have time to join this?

thick hatch
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whole month

sturdy scarab
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This was so much fun.

sturdy scarab
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Time to put a new sheet on the palette.

static ether
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Jealous of all your blue grey POGGERS

static ether
elder root
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Alrighty, I've been wanting to bust out this labor jack for ages. I think I can make this pallette work with it with some finagling.

elder root
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Blacked out yellow for a grungy metal base. Greys for exposed workings. Yellow and black hazard stripes on the hyuuugah chainsaw. Magenta for core or stacks glow.

sturdy scarab
sturdy scarab
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This shows the colors better. Added some more shots in #1136006755302772798

thick hatch
sturdy scarab
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Yeah, it's a pretty awesome sculpt tbh. A lot of facial features got lost in my print, unfortunately.

thorny oriole
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Yeah greys can really start looking blue to our eyes especially if warmer tones like oranges or reds are close by. I’m really trying to push this by using gray in the shield gradient where blue “should be”.

thorny oriole
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also, haunted by the fact that green and purple can be mixed for blue tones (at least some greens and some purples) I've tried really hard to replicate that within this palette. But at the end of the day, using this palette to mix green (black+yellow) and purple (black+magenta) is the same as mixing magenta and yellow (which yeilds reds or oranges) and adding black to it which basically makes browns. I feel like glazing greens and purples over gray somehow feels like a bit colder gray than straight up gray but maybe that's just hopeful optimism more so than careful observation 🙂 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85hRJSY66zI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMDNoipB92Y

elder root
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What black magic fuckery is this green?!?!!?!

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I mean it looks perfect but.... Wut

elder root
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Progress. Cannot get the same tone of green or gret twice to save my life but only I noticed the difference.

elder root
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Danger verah big chainsaw

elder root
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Highlights and panel lining

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(started thread in WIP to cut down spam)

static ether
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Don't worry that's what the pal is about in my eyes

thorny oriole
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I think I’ll wrap this guy up in the next few days. Getting to the point of diminishing returns. He’s been really fun to paint using this palette

elder root
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No 37s safety conscious tools are coming together

elder root
thorny oriole
elder root
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I gotta say this has been an awesome time. Limited palette really forces you to kick the brain up to full speed. Wish I'd tried one sooner.

elder root
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Assembly, the fun bit! Now some touch up and basing with I think some old rusty mining works and a magenta crystal.

thorny oriole
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Better pics. Now with more cat hair

untold hedge
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Right let's have a go then

untold hedge
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Fuck this is hard 😂

untold hedge
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Not terrible for a couple hours work

bright pumice
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Let's try this out

elder root
thorny oriole
untold hedge
bright pumice
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Crazy fun challenge. Still a bit of work to go

elder root
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Seems the mad mining mech was mining magenta crystals

untold hedge
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Calling her done

boreal rapids
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Going to do this random figure.

thorny oriole
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i love how everyone is getting into mixing colors! 💖

boreal rapids
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Not exactly what I hoped. I couldn't get really usable reds from my particular magenta. But I'm not unhappy with the end result.

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Should have done something with flesh tones.

sturdy scarab
boreal rapids
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I have a bit of a habit of being a quick painter. But I then take another day to finish basing to the point that I can submit them.

thorny oriole
boreal rapids
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Ak3 magenta

elder root
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Same as I used and yeah you can get orange, but red is a little out of reach

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YEah that weird undead sculpt looks fantastic with the purply pink. I'd freak out having to fight it.

elder root
# untold hedge

Is that turf synthetic turf or do I detect someone else using the spice cupboard for bases?

elder root
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Finished! This was super fun.

static ether
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Looking nice!

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I'm waiting on crackle paste to continue 😆

elder root
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Waiting for drying is the worst. Sandbox sand was naturally the right grittiness for me but that elmers glue takes for freaking ever.

untold hedge
eager river
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My start. One for this along and the other for caster along

eager river
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Finished

thorny oriole
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Made his chest a touch lighter and hit it it with super thin pink and orange glazed to bring in a touch of warmth. Made little futzy adjustments all over. Looks the same as it did before 🫠

static ether
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Defined and detailed some parts, based and tried to redden the stomach some more. But I think I will take a better photo and call it done at this point after adding some grass tuff

elder root
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Warty!