#Tmnt vr story theory *Work In Progress*

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forest dagger
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Hear me out I’ve been reading up on tmnt characters for this,

I think that there’s gonna be two karai bossfights one being the tutorial and the other being the “bad” ending were shredder mutates karai into a serpent like the 2012 show, that way there would be a difference in how they fight,

There might even be two shredder bossfights maybe one in his astral mode and one were he comes back to life since… that’s bound to happen

But I think if there’s a mystic foot clan then mushima or manusha however she’s spelt is going to bring shredder to life, since in the IDW comics she was a mystic foot clan who lived in New York and brought to life a clone version of shredder using armour I think?

Well… looks like we were right01_Leo_Smiling
So with that we continue. I think that the Gang war isn’t with seperate gangs but instead an internal war happening between the foot clan, they have separated into 2 Factions, one believing that karias way of order is the best way to move forward, Versus those who think Mashimas way of chaos and following the shredders footsteps is the way to go
This would lead to Mashimas side of the foot clan being “empowered” by her making them stronger as they attempt to bring back the shredder and the turtles have to temporarily team up with karai to stop them.

Later in the game we might get blasted into the spell and that’s how we end up in the astral space with shredder which was shown in the first gameplay trailer, we have a fight with him there and later he gets brought back we fight him again but he has new attacks since he’s actually alive now and he decides to mutate karai maybe? I need to do more research icl especially about mushima

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I’m gonna do more research on more characters since it’s more likely that kitsune would be the one to ressurect shredder rather then mushima since she actually does resurrect him in the comics

shut vigil
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Jesus

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U think

peak rose
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If Kitsune makes it in then Rat King and other characters will most likely follow

forest dagger
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I asked it in the ama if they exist so maybe if we get an answer I can solidify it a little more

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But if they don’t it’s most likely kitsune

shut vigil
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My question is where does Baxter stockman fit in ur theory

forest dagger
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Also maybe he’s the one that supplies the foot with mutagen?

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Or doesn’t April work in his lab in the IDW maybe that’s how he’s in the story

peak rose
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Oh mb I only really know of the 2012 series were Baxter helped shredder for a while

peak rose
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The foot attempt to steal mutagen from Stockgen and end up getting attacked by pre mutation splinter, hence creating the turtles

forest dagger
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Maybe they try steal more from stockgens warehouse?

peak rose
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Maybe?

forest dagger
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Cause there are warehouse missions

peak rose
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Yeah and some lab missions

forest dagger
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Since there was an audio thing in the voice actor devlog were splinter asks if mikey made it to the warehouse

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So who knows

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Tmnt vr story theory Work In Progress

peak rose
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Maybe Stockgen is a neutral party

forest dagger
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That would be pretty cool

peak rose
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the storyline is based off of something called City at war so.... who's in the war?

forest dagger
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The foot clan and

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Oh damn

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Wait ur right

peak rose
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The foot and who?

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Clan Hamato?
Savate?
Purple Dragons?

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Stockgen?
Phantheon?
Utroms?
The Herd?

forest dagger
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Krang or purple dragons maybe?

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Since they said they haven’t revealed one voice actor and they are the TRUE Big main villain it’s pointed more into the Krang direction

peak rose
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City at war was about 2 factions of the foot fighting for control

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Splinter's New York branch and Karai's Japan branch

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maybe a civil war

forest dagger
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If so that is beyond peak

shut vigil
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Why am I getting reminded of Batman Arkham city

forest dagger
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It sounds very similar with the gang war stuff

peak rose
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I really want something like this volume

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there were some epic fights in these

shut vigil
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I need to play the Arkham games I played half of Arkham asylum and just left it I need to finish it

forest dagger
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@peak rose that was a good question about exiting the city because normally they have to destroy the krangs ship in the sky to get rid of them right?

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Again I’m basing this of the 2012 logic

peak rose
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Never mind it was this one with the crazy final battle

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Love Raph in that

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Big Raph fan

peak rose
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10/10 no notes, amazing

forest dagger
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My favourite part of doing this theory is that if we even get one thing sorta right Jimmy is just watching terrified 01_Mikey_Laughing

peak rose
forest dagger
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Interesting

peak rose
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See "Attack on the Technodrome"

forest dagger
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In tmnt 2012 the Krang came through a portal connected to April I’m pretty sure and the turtles had to sneak onto the ship and destroy the teleporter from the inside

peak rose
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Lots of "Blow up the teleporter" in TMNT

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small meadow
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Do you think they'd really bring back the Karai serpent? Iirc, the most we got out of that was a few "search for karai episodes" they SAW ripoff one, and she got a healing factor afterward, maybe the studio has some different ideas, but maybe there's a reason she doesn't get mutated often.

forest dagger
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“Completely different circumstances” serpent karai is 100% in my mind still

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Same with 2 shredder bossfights

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I wanna keep my expectations low but I can’t beat that feeling

peak rose
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Fight one: Stop bad guy

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Fight two: A more Final solution

forest dagger
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Obviously hard to tell if this means yes or no aswell

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But I’m worried that I was just to bold guessing a random character I just discovered to bring back shredder “mashima”

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So maybe it’s kitsune instead?

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She’s more well known think

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I’m gonna do more research, I won’t let Jimmy win01_Raph_Angry

peak rose
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Wait.... they said Karai has someone attempt to take the clan right?

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City at war.... War for the clan?

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Instead of Karai V Spinter... Karai V Kitsune?

forest dagger
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I can recheck if u want

peak rose
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I remember hearing something like that in the karai devlog

forest dagger
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I’ll check

peak rose
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So if I were to guess, it's a foot clan civil war, OR Kitsune is using her mind control like she did on Leo and Alopex

forest dagger
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I’ll check the devlog

peak rose
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Or april or casey or splinter or Bebop and Rocksteady or stockman

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peak rose
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Or anyone else (No IDW characters sadly 01_Karai_Sad )

peak rose
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I believe also that something was said by Karai along the lines of "Your spells won't work on me witch" and she was immune to Kitsune's mind control

forest dagger
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Okok we know that Casey is in the open world

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And story beats

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And he’s not playable

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So he could be a target for mind control

peak rose
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I'll have to re read City at war again to fully understand

forest dagger
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At this point I’m going to forget about Mashima and fully focus on kitsune since she’s a bigger character and more likely to be in it

peak rose
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In a cutscene

peak rose
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The characters in that list I think were: Alopex, Jennika, Splinter, Casey, Karai and Leo

shut vigil
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I’m not even gonna question what this is

forest dagger
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Since I’ve been staying away from the city at war story to stay spoiler free for this game I have no idea who some of them are01_Mikey_Laughing

peak rose
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Leo and Alopex were under control at one point but both "broke free" while the others never were controlled

forest dagger
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Ye figured

peak rose
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WAIT

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U WERE RIGHT

peak rose
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Hold up

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What

forest dagger
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But if this is true then it can’t be shredder

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Since there following shredders ways

peak rose
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IT'S A FOOT CLAN CIVIL WAR

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IT HAS TO BE

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WAIT

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UR SAYING

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the foot clan are splitting apart and the factions are divided because of shredders death?

peak rose
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(Also pretty sure it's Jonin lol)

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forest dagger
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So the reason they haven’t said who the other faction is, is because there isn’t another faction

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Because the foot clan are splitting apart

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Because of the new leadership

peak rose
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We also could be completely wrong and it's just a original character made just for the game

peak rose
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This lines up with: City at war (Mirage/IDW) Vengance, and a few more storylines

forest dagger
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So there merging different comic stories together while primarily focusing on the city at war

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WHILE ALSO changing that story by adding their own changes and roots to the story

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God damn.

peak rose
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The story in this game better be good 01_Mikey_Laughing

shut vigil
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Ur practically writing the story

peak rose
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Yo Jimmy we got an idea for the sequel-

harsh anchor
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This might be ur big break @peak rose

forest dagger
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And just like that the man who started this theory got forgotten…

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I’m joking dw01_Mikey_Laughing

peak rose
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Jimmy hire this man 01_Turt_Upvote

forest dagger
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The fact that Jimmy has probably read through every comment we’ve made here and is just enjoying watching us slowly go insane

shut vigil
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I think ur past insane

forest dagger
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But it’s worth it.

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I must carry on

shut vigil
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It is a good read I’ll give u that

forest dagger
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harsh anchor
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It's been entertaining.

peak rose
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Oh no I'm waiting for Half Life 3 so I'm already insane

shut vigil
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Past insane

forest dagger
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It would make it so funny if we were completely wrong01_Mikey_Laughing

shut vigil
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Probably are no offense

harsh anchor
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peak rose
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It'd be awesome if we were right, but I still want to be suprised by the game

forest dagger
shut vigil
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01_Raph_Angry 01_Raph_Angry LETS SLAP SOME MAKEUP ON THESE CLOWNS

forest dagger
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Plus as someone who knows nothing about IDW or city at war it’s probably better I done this since I would most likely be going, “who’s that?” For a big reveal

shut vigil
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Favorite line

harsh anchor
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ITS SPECTACULAR

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harsh anchor
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I'm not sure if that was Rosie or Ace, but pretty sure it was one of them.

shut vigil
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It’s a good one

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When I can FINALLY play as Raph I’m doing that thing with Sai idk how to say it but ima do that one where it’s in between his fingers and just punch everything

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Jimmy what’s ur favorite line

forest dagger
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Okok, I really hopes this mean mentally because if it means physically then my karai serpent theory goes down the drain along with the krang

shut vigil
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It’s probably physically

peak rose
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Probably mentally, in "Vengeance" and "From the Ashes" she remains Karai

shut vigil
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If not u deserve praise

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peak rose
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Jimmy is either laughing or sweating reading these

shut vigil
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Both

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What is ur guy’s favorite turtle

forest dagger
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peak rose
shut vigil
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Understandable

peak rose
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He was my original favorite just because he was the blue one lol, but after reading the IDW and Mirage series, I really like how Leo was written

shut vigil
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Ah

peak rose
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He was really well done

shut vigil
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My favorite color is blue so at first I liked Leo but as I got more and more into tmnt I realized Raphael just suits my personality better like I rage a lot

peak rose
shut vigil
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That is a cool cover art

peak rose
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This issue was so good and a good example of why I think Leo was so good in IDW

shut vigil
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One day I’m praying to hear other letters then idw

peak rose
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It's the only 3 letter series lol

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peak rose
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IDW, Mirage, Archie, 2003, 2012, 80S Garbage modern one

shut vigil
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Idk just feels like ur favorite

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Wonder why 01_Donnie_Thinking

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Can’t figure it out

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Get a guy that’s favorite is Donnie and we got the team

forest dagger
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WAIT

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okay hear me out

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In the demo I was wondering why some foot clan members wear white cloth while others were red, maybe that shows that they split

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Colours show how they have separated

shut vigil
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Don’t the ones wearing red have spears

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I think I just like in real life u know the belt system black white purple and whatever else I think it’s just to show how powerful they are or what weapon they have

peak rose
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Did u not see the Raph bit at the end

peak rose
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Oh yeah

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That was an "early beta build" though

shut vigil
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That’s still there though

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Nought changed

peak rose
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In the latest short it's all only red ranked foot and no white ranked foot

shut vigil
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This is starting to sound like something else let’s change the subject

peak rose
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Maybe the White faction is Karai's and the Red faction is Kitsunes? White headband/ eyes non hostile? Red headband / eyes hostile?

shut vigil
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I still think it’s my thing but u might be right

shut vigil
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I’m getting ganged up on

forest dagger
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The fact Jimmy said someone might eventually get it makes me think we’re wrong01_Mikey_Laughing

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But this was before we talked about kitsune

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So if we swap Mashima with kitsune since Jimmys basically said we haven’t got it yet

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The Krang part we knew was wrong

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But the civil war speculation came after the ama

forest dagger
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Also maybe rocksteady and bepop aren’t together is because there on separate sides of the foot clan

shut vigil
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Maybe

peak rose
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I'd doubt that they went on opposite sides

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But in the Bebop and Rocksteady comic miniseries (which I do not like) they did fight a few times

forest dagger
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Maybe mutations are back on the table…

harsh anchor
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Would you say our AMAs have helped or hindered your theory crafting endeavours?

forest dagger
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Jimmy ur enjoying my struggle a little too much🤣

forest dagger
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BUT

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ace answers on bossfights helped me with maybe possibly mutations

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But Jimmy yours did help bring in a stronger theory

harsh anchor
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Uh oh. That was never my intention.

forest dagger
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Instead of the Krang we’ve thought more so of a foot clan civil war, which is why some foot clan members are in white while others are in red

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Could also be why rocksteady and beepop are seperated

shut vigil
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Oh god he’s using the office again

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WHAT ARE U HIDING JIMMY

harsh anchor
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It's one of my favourite shows.

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It's my go to for tomfoolery.

forest dagger
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The foot will regain their lost territory “EMPOWERED” by their mysterious new leadership- Jimmys voice over from the newest TikTok

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So the new leader has powers?

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Could it actually be kitsune?

peak rose
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Once again, only the red eyed foot are hostile

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On another note, purple could be under control

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But it's almost certain that the big bad has astral powers, so it's gotta be kitsune

forest dagger
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They were red lost and got more powerful coming back purple

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So yeah they must have some astral energy of some sorts

shut vigil
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This still about the colors

forest dagger
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Maybe shredders staying in the astral place to grow more powerful

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I wonder who it is

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Probably shredder

peak rose
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Shredder in hell mini series had shredder fighting a version of himself

shut vigil
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So they both won because there #%###+

peak rose
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Slight note, Mirage City at war showed Karai asking the turtles to kill the Elite Foot Ninja that vowed only to follow the ways of Shredder, hence causing them to battle Karai's foot clan

peak rose
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"together with new leadership the foot elite believe the way of Oroku Saki is the only way"

forest dagger
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Might have to update this soon…

forest dagger
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IVE HAD A BREAKTHROUGH

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okay okay

peak rose
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You can't just say that then leave 01_Mikey_Laughing

forest dagger
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So in the new videos the foot clan have a purple ish colour scheme as they’ve come back more powerful

peak rose
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In this concept art from months ago it looks like the foot clan are connected to the shredders helmet

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So maybe it’s channeling astral energy into them

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Making them more powerful?

peak rose
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Possibly?

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But are those robots or humans? or are they being mutated?

forest dagger
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Humans

peak rose
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And.... Kitsune doesn't do anything science-related.... but..... Baxter Stockman does

forest dagger
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One other thing

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If it was kitsune as the big bad why hasn’t she already revived shredder?

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If they have the helmet

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Unless she needs his full suit to revive him?

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peak rose
forest dagger
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Maybe she doesn’t wanna bring back shredder, she wants to follow his ways but she knows if she brought him back to life she would lose her position as head of the foot clan

peak rose
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||When Kitsune revives shredder, she doesn't have shredder's head because Splinter sliced it off and hid it somewhere, meaning the helmet and body were buried in one place, and the head in another. Splinter likely hid the head or something similar||

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peak rose
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Possibly

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peak rose
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But pretty sure Kitsune married Shredder lol

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peak rose
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Not too sure on that one, it says so on the wiki I think

forest dagger
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So yeah maybe they need all his armour to bring him back

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Either way I wonder why they’ve put a wall around New York

peak rose
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peak rose
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Moves the Savate and Purple Dragons out of the picture?

forest dagger
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forest dagger
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Leaves them being the only faction in New York

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So nothing can stop what there up to

peak rose
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Yeah I doubt that the Foot wants Krang and Agent Bishop messing with their plans

forest dagger
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LADIES AND GENTLEMEN

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WE DID IT

peak rose
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Well you did it

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I was in some ways correct lol
But it was mostly you 01_Mikey_Laughing

forest dagger
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I was right about mushima and u might also be right about the foot clan civil war

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We have what we needed it’s time to finish this theory

peak rose
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Ok so final plot idea:
Shredder is dead and Mashima wants to follow his ways
Karai looks to lead in a more honorable way
Mashima promises power and magic
Karai promises control and honor
So there's a battle for the foot clan between Karai's legion and the Mystic foot

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Civil war
City at war

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It lines up PERFECTLY with the Mirage City at war line

small meadow
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Isn't baxter supposed to have his own faction too?

forest dagger
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What if Baxter is like in between both sides helping whoever would bestly benefit him

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I just fully updated the main theory aswell that we started with

forest dagger
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Did we secretly write this story and just forget it😭

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Hear me out I’ve been reading up on tmnt characters for this,

I think that there’s gonna be two karai bossfights one being the tutorial and the other being the “bad” ending were shredder mutates karai into a serpent like the 2012 show, that way there would be a difference in how they fight,

There might even be two shredder bossfights maybe one in his astral mode and one were he comes back to life since… that’s bound to happen

But I think if there’s a mystic foot clan then mushima or manusha however she’s spelt is going to bring shredder to life, since in the IDW comics she was a mystic foot clan who lived in New York and brought to life a clone version of shredder using armour I think?

Well… looks like we were right01_Leo_Smiling
So with that we continue. I think that the Gang war isn’t with seperate gangs but instead an internal war happening between the foot clan, they have separated into 2 Factions, one believing that karias way of order is the best way to move forward, Versus those who think Mashimas way of chaos and following the shredders footsteps is the way to go
This would lead to Mashimas side of the foot clan being “empowered” by her making them stronger as they attempt to bring back the shredder and the turtles have to temporarily team up with karai to stop them.

Later in the game we might get blasted into the spell and that’s how we end up in the astral space with shredder which was shown in the first gameplay trailer, we have a fight with him there and later he gets brought back we fight him again but he has new attacks since he’s actually alive now and he decides to mutate karai maybe? I need to do more research icl especially about mushima

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THE FINAL INSTALMENT OF THIS THEORY.

peak rose
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That's accurate

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I agree with the final theory

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(You guys didn't just read what we did in here and then stole it right? RIGHT?! 01_Mikey_Laughing )

small meadow
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ALL your theories are wrong, Karai and her foot clan are addicted to illicit substances (pixie sticks) and mashima got possessd by shredder's ghost and is trying to force karai to go to rehab

peak rose
small meadow
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my source? A honda civic told me

peak rose
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small meadow
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the line between insanity and genius is whether you get an award or not

peak rose
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"Enchanted" bad guys

forest dagger
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Mystic infused shredder would be cool

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But I am holding out hope even tho snakes are my biggest fear that we get that mutated karai

small meadow
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mystic crap foot

peak rose
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Shredder
Astral Shredder
BB and RS
BB and RS empowered
Maybe an enchanted robot
The dragon or something maybe

forest dagger
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You guys are sick to deaf of hearing from me but THE THEORISING NEVER ENDS

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This basically confirms that mashima isn’t the final boss, since he hasn’t appeared in any other game

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So the question is who is the final boss

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I always thought that bad ending karai were she possibly mutates into her snake form would be the final fight

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But considering that only happens in the 2012 show “not a game” that means it can’t possibly be her

primal lotus
forest dagger
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Baxter stockman has yet to be shown as a villain and would be really be suitable for being the final boss

forest dagger
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Astral shredder bossfight near the beginning of the game, the final bossfight is THE SHREDDER

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back from the dead

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Mashima has resurrected him

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So yeah my theory is that the final bossfight is shredder

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Makes sense considering he’s in most tmnt games and the lore for him is lowkey insane

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Gives plenty of room for the callbacks

forest dagger
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And also… it’s the fricken shredder

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Ofc he’s gonna be the final boss

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But yes… that is my final prediction for the final bossfight based on the information Ace gave us

forest dagger
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Jimmy also helping us out here by saying “IF” shredder is dead

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This whole time we’ve been led to believe that he is dead until now it’s more of a IF he is dead🕵️

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These also stand out to me, “7 Biggest names Ip character” Must include shredder I also asked on Reddit if a character was to be mutated would that count as the same character or 2/7 for big Ip names, which I got the answer “spoiler territory”

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This leads nicely into my next screenshot

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“COME BACK TO TAKE YOU ON AGAIN” “DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANCES” SOMEONE IS BEING MUTATED

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karai will get mutated which would count as a “rematch” since the tutorial

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And shredder would rematch after he gets resurrected since I assume we will fight him first in the astral place

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These would obviously give different win requirements since they are physically fighting differently now as karai might be mutated and shredder is back alive

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Wow I done a lot tonight I need to rest while Jimmy might panicky call cortopia to say I did it again01_Mikey_Laughing

peak rose
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I think you nailed it on Astral Shredder and Normal shredder

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That's what I think

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100%

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Considering this and the fact I think splinter was born a rat considering he had baby pictures of the eggs which would line up with him in the IDW series, (I’ve read the first 40ish pages) which leads me to think that karai is shredders granddaughter

forest dagger
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U were right

peak rose
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I WAS RIGHT ABOUT SOMETHING 01_Mikey_Laughing

woven sandal
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OK, i think i got something, you know the game art duality? for kari. What if at the end of the game for the bad path, kari turns evil or possessed and turns on us? Remember how you face her twice on the bad path? Just a thought tho, probably wrong

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just a hail Mary tho

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peak rose
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Yup

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Enchanted Karai

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And a civil war

peak rose
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I was actually correct

forest dagger
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I said this before the mashima reveal but I’ll say it again so u guys dont have to scroll up

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I think that mashima will use the helmet to make a connection to shredder in the astral dimension

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While yes they’ve made the connection

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It won’t be powerful enough to bring shredder back

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So they will have to collect all pieces of shredders armour

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And it’ll be a fetch quest between the turtles and mashima.

woven sandal
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