TO THE DEVS ABOUT (FULL LOOT)

[obsidian spindle]

Ive died plenty of times playing recently and imagining myself crafting gear every time I died would be TERRIBLE for this game. Probably would have logged a few times but since I didnt lose anything I kept playing. At the end of the day you do STILL lose something. If your side isnt good enough to hold a fort you will lose it no matter what gear you have. New players will drop this game. Game like this you have to try your best to keep alive and escape the niche. Full loot is opposite of that.

[visual nymph]

To the devs: nobody is asking for full loot, people are asking for the partial loot system to be expanded back into the outer ring and not just in the center. Most vets agree that this was when the game was most fun, and the game going f2p means that a lot more people will be coming in and out and GV wasn’t really built to house tens of thousands of players, a few thousand is good enough for most of us

[soft prism]

What nonsense are you writing???
If you don't like it, go play Last Oasis and you'll FEEL the discomfort 😄

[visual nymph]

If he tried to play mortal online 2 he might just die irl lol

[soft prism]

And I AGREE here, because it was indeed more interesting, and it stimulated Trade.

GV doesn't scare you with Fool Loot like other games like Last Oasis, Myth of Empire, etc.

GV has this aspect the best in the gaming market 🙂

[cloud belfry]

In the game Anvil Empires (which is full loot) their logistics and crafting people fill their keeps with useable armor instead of like us in GV throwing armor food etc away in the bastion where no one actually uses it. Might be a nice way to make basic t3 and t4 crafting relevant and keep fighters basically geared up enough to fight

[sullen robin]

I mean outer ring could give you less points when looting, for example 4 points you you can steal gloves/helm/shoes but can t expensive chest and pants

[south jewel]

Change thread title and stop spreading disinformation

Its partial loot on entirety of the map. Do not spread further the absolutely false concept of implementing full loot, 95% of players dont want that here

You are harming the game with improper wording, spreading rumours that there is a "possibility of full loot" which is enough to drive away large audience before the game even starts

Stop griefing, take some responsibility for your own words

Partial loot is the system

It served GV well for many years, being the compromise between keep inventory and lose inventory system

0% consequences for pve death

Minimal consequences for pvp death (down to 1 item!!!)

Very unique and I dare say intimate experience when you finally get to kill somebody

[grand matrix]

Nobody plays mortal online 2 though. You dont either or youd play that instead of GV. Ultimately, gamingo is gonna want to make the most money possible, and if its not p2w then that is also the best outcome for keeping this game alive. That means keeping LZ as it is, as much as all 12 of you complain.

[obsidian spindle]

^ that’s all I’m saying lol

[visual nymph]

I do play mortal online 2, it’s possible to play more than one game. Also when we look at player counts on average mortal online 2 has been more popular in than GV. Also why do you assume that keeping the loot zone as it is would make more money because attracting a wider audience does not translate to dollars made (and more niche games attract more diehard fans), and in most free games a few people pay for almost everybody else (those people probably are going to be vets who prefer a bigger loot zone). I’m not advocating that full loot be anywhere near GV though, I enjoyed the partial loot system and I think most vets agree that when it covered most of the map that was whe the game was most fun, but I suppose if we look at the numbers maybe it should have full loot because that seems to get more average players, even though most vets do not want that (including myself).

[grand matrix]

False. Mortal Online 2 averages 800 players a day max, and that's only in recent months. If you go through the entire year, it averages more like 400. It's a dead game. It's a dead game for a reason

400 players is literally worse than some games released 30 years ago

[visual nymph]

For the vast majority of GVs life it has averaged between 300-400 players. For most of mortals life it has averaged 400-600+ with heavy variations (some months 400 then the next 600 and the next 800) with all pre 2025 months being 600+ and all pre September 2024 months being 800+. Both games had/have a box price. And if we compare the post 1.0 numbers for both games mortal also wins, and has a slower drop off as GV drops to 500 in 3 months and mortal doesn’t reach those numbers until a few years after

GV has always been a more “dead game” than mortal online, and since you probably don’t want to play a dead game why don’t you leave

[grand matrix]

GV will be f2p, and it was always the better game regardless. It had low pop due to being unknown by almost everyone. It had 0 marketing. Mortal Online is going to die like it should. It's a bad game with a bad system. If you want to play Mortal Online 2 though, go do that. Stop trying to change GV into that. Full loot PvP games always die out without fail. Even partial loot PvP games struggle to gain any traction. Companies exist to make money, and full loot just doesnt do it.

Loot pants in the LZ like everyone else, except it's always dead here because nobody else comes in to fight

You guys are like "loot zone is too small and it's a ghost town where nobody fights, let's make it much larger so that the entire map is a ghost town instead"

[visual nymph]

And if mortal went f2p it would become even more popular than gv, you can’t say that just because you like a game better it is a better game, and if we go by the numbers more people have thought that mortal is a better game than gv. Nobody here has ever argued for full loot and most people want to go back to a time when GV was the most popular which included the outer circle being a loot zone (around 2021, post launch doesn’t count as those numbers would
Have probably settled around the numbers of before)

It’s ok to be wrong

[visual nymph]

Tbh there isn’t much to fight over in the LZ imo, there are things to fight over in the outer ring tho

[south jewel]

Who are you, a politician?
Duck, your repeated use of "full loot" is so triggering, its almost like you are doing it deliberately to spread misinformation that GV was ever intended to be lose everything on death. IT WAS NOT

Learn the fricking difference

[south jewel]

Top tier resources, best quests, your guild coat of arms put on the world map

[visual nymph]

Oh there is def a lot to fight over, but it doesn’t interest me in particular except for the sieges which I haven’t seen many of

[rose glen]

I like taking loot because I don’t like crafting

[visual nymph]

I don’t think he is willing to argue in good faith

[visual nymph]

When game fully comes out I will be buying ambers and selling skins on the market, that was my solution to crafting

[south jewel]

I think it has a lot to do with this being just a test that will end in wipe

Which makes players not want to pursue crafting in large numbers

As its a lot of work for benefits that will evaporate

But once the launch is for reals guilds will claw onto these castles for their dear life I promise

They have the best workstations

[rose glen]

Hell yeah, I don’t mind pay to win when I have money 😄

Maybe a good compromise is make deadly harvest have full loot zone (partial loot everywhere) to kinda up the stakes