Suggestions for 4MAN

[worthy current]

agreed, think making ppl throw babies out to raise em will just put smaller tribes at bigger disadvantage and widen the gape early on making the wipe shorter which is opposite of what we want with slower rates and less mods.

[stray ruin]

I hate to break it to you guys but small tribes will be in big disadvantage whatever you do here

If thats our concern

[worthy current]

its not the main concern imo but I think that there is no benefit to having to throw dinos out to raise em, makes it less fun. doesnt make wipe last longer. ur gonna have a aneurism trying to cycle ur breeders babies and dinos to ready. keep in mind there is a tame cap. cant have over 200 dinos out at once.

[stray ruin]

At that point, add back arkomatic

Its less fun to craft resources/ammo manually

[worthy current]

theres a big difference between crafting ammo and having to cycle breeders and babies and dinos all day every day

[torpid imp]

At this point, you’re just being a sour and grumpy dude. You gotta make some exceptions.

[worthy current]

its just something that will ultimately make the wipe die out faster imo with no real point

[stray ruin]

Thats the thing - how far do you intend to go?

[unique gyro]

at this point you guys flip flopped 450 times on settings

[torpid imp]

I would love nothing more than just having offical with some light mods, but you cant have everything.

[stray ruin]

Its either we go close to more vanilla style or we put here tons of qol

[stray ruin]

Already having some shop with dinos, together with transfer tool, cryos etc. I feel like thats already enough of qol by itself

[worthy current]

ive made 1 arguement which is to either increase tame cap or make cryo raising possible. I dont mind hand raising babies I got time but id like the wipe to last more then a week or 2 which usually thats how long EA wipes last

[stray ruin]

It will last like it no matter what you do today

[mystic ivy]

increase tame cap= unplayable lag

[worthy current]

exactly, so make babies raise in cryos

[mystic ivy]

no cryo raising is just stupid

[stray ruin]

You know why? EA population is full of fast paced people.

[worthy current]

agreed

[mystic ivy]

ur the only guy that wants these changes are u gonna advertise the cluster for them as well

[stray ruin]

If you want wipe to last slightly longer, you need to attract people that like this type of settings. No settings that we do will change that today and it's exactly same reason why people want all these qol stuff, because we want to drift back to most stuff as possible that we have on other clusters.

[mystic ivy]

nobody on eliteark wants these settings

[stray ruin]

I am sure I am not the only one.

[mystic ivy]

maybe 0.1% of the players

[stray ruin]

So once again, why are we doing this cluster?

[worthy current]

bro theres a difference between fast paced and torture. I am looking forward to slower wipe but what you arent understanding is that noone will hand raise there babies cryo breeders throw em back out breed em cryo them throw out tames to saddle level and saddle em, wake em up, cryo them, throw breeders back out and breed em. it is fkn cancer. we not playing official we playing unofficial. we want a slower wipe thats fine but making it cancer to play is just dumb.

[stray ruin]

If nobody wants it?

[mystic ivy]

the cluster rn is fine as it is

the changes ur proposing are ridicoulous

none of this shit even affects u ur gonna be in a rathole and play for the first week

[worthy current]

theres a middle ground between what u suggesting and eliteark that I think this cluster is aiming for.

[mystic ivy]

thats why u want hand raising etc

[stray ruin]

I am sure the middle is not cryo raising

[worthy current]

I think ur underestimating how much time it takes to cycle dinos like that and raise them

[torpid imp]

You can’t make the changes too harsh, Kosticka. You’ve gotta make some exceptions.

[stray ruin]

Tell me guys, why is anyone even playing stuff like ARKpocalypse?

You gotta farm stuff, raise stuff, holy shit what a joke right?

[mystic ivy]

he wont need to cycle thats why he is propsing it dudes gonna have 50 breeders out

[worthy current]

noone here cares about arkpocalypse. we playing eliteark. arkpoc is a diff cluster bro

[mystic ivy]

arkpicalypse is full of bobs

0 good players play it

its probably the only cluster with not a single good player

[worthy current]

we want a eliteark slower wipe not a arkpoc wipe clone, we would just go to arkpoc if we wanted arkpoc

[stray ruin]

I am giving you example

And people in original post wanted different type of cluster

If we throw all this shit here, it defeats the purpose

[torpid imp]

Have you been on the test server? It’s wildly different.

[worthy current]

I havent actually been to test server yet. what is baby raising like right now?

[torpid imp]

You’re just complaining right now. I was the one who made the original suggestion, with 5x rates.

I settled on 10x, as most people would probably enjoy it more.

[nocturne niche]

Cryo breeding. Significantly more dinos, more breeding easier raid, less ammo, less ele quick loss of pop

Due to wipes

[stray ruin]

I am reacting to the guy who said that nobody cares about arkpoc here

[torpid imp]

The cluster is at a good spot right now - lets test on friday, and add more suggestions when we’ve tested it.

[mystic ivy]

i have an idea

keep the cluster as it is, only the tribes that survive the first 10 days can make suggestions after

[nocturne niche]

Sarcasm off?

[mystic ivy]

cuz all of u guys talking nonsense are gonna be playing for 4 days max

[nocturne niche]

What makes you think that? Assuming u also mean me?

[worthy current]

ignore him lmao, youll enjoy it more.

[mystic ivy]

you will see why i think that

[nocturne niche]

No. I dont get it

What makes you think that people who suggest a slower pace will play for 4 days?

[magic forum]

bro the same people that you claim play four days max and are bobs are the same ones that suggested the 3man limited tek that you play...

[nocturne niche]

Just out of curiosity

[nocturne niche]

Exactly

[mystic ivy]

i dont even play 3man cuz of the limited tek

i play it cuz its 3man

[magic forum]

like if you wanna keep playing same clusters over and over then go ahead, but stop shitting on ppls ideas

[nocturne niche]

And just to mention. Kosticka brought the idea up to get bossstuff into drops. They were supposed to be farmed out of caves and killing dinos

[mystic ivy]

he is also reccomending no cryo raising

u want me to get cancer podding my 200 breeders so i can throw out my 200 babies

[nocturne niche]

Yes. And that is a valid and good point

[mystic ivy]

then repod em when they adolescent so i can breed

then recryo again

every day

wont even have time to fob

[nocturne niche]

Honestly i start doubting your inteligence. The point is to have a different cluster to the existing ones

[worthy current]

yeah and good job for him, but then he suggested something I think will kill the wipe and I told him that. thats whole point of this chat is to debate changes.

[nocturne niche]

If you dont like it, leave it

[unreal pasture]

Yeah the whole point to have this is because people want a different type of server

He can't be real y'all

He's trolling he has to be

[nocturne niche]

What is the point in creating the same cluster again?

[worthy current]

is he the owner of the server? wdym if i dont like it leave it? this chat is to talk about not liking or liking things about the wipe... are you slow?

[stray ruin]

I will say some super crazy idea - maybe on this cluster you are not supposed to have 200 breeders so you can have 1500 raid ready dinos.

How about that?

Because you are bringing numbers that you are used to from other clusters

[nocturne niche]

? Its about ban.

[mystic ivy]

so how do u want me to raid?

if u want a pve cluster just ask for a pve cluster

[nocturne niche]

Wow

[stray ruin]

The boy can't raid without 1500 raid ready dinos 3 days in, I see

[mystic ivy]

not really depends on base spot

ur base will probably take 10 yi lings and 20 desmos

maybe a dread and a mek

[stray ruin]

The keyboard warrior suits you btw Ban, welcome to the club 😉

[worthy current]

the settings are realeased and test server open, im not talking about other servers im tlaking about the 4man bro. if u disagree with me then we can debate it. thats what this is for. but for yall to say thats what this cluster is for if u dont like it dont play. I could say the same to you about my ideas. infact the current cluster settings are what im arguing to keep and you the one suggesting a change.

[mystic ivy]

im not even a keyboard warrior im a fact speaker

[worthy current]

I saying same thing ban is

[stray ruin]

Well your title says otherwise

[worthy current]

so same shit

[mystic ivy]

i see the problem here, u guys get wiped every wipe so now u want to create a borderline pve cluster so u can survive for more than a week this time

[stray ruin]

So if you are talking about 4man, do you need to have hundreds of breeders in order to play the game?

[torpid imp]

No one is forcing you to play it, Ban.

[magic forum]

yes he does

[worthy current]

tbf I think that is legit the whole point of this cluster to have a longer wipe and slower paced wipe but I just think that throwing out babies to raise is a step too far in the I want cancer direction.

[stray ruin]

And thats the thing, nobody is forcing you to do it.

Again controversial take from me - simply have less dinos.

[mystic ivy]

how do u wipe a spider cave without 150 desmos 60-70 stegos 10 rexes 10 meks 10 dreads 30 gigas 30 thylas

tell me how

[stray ruin]

Lower rates - less ammunition - less dinos

Are you following that?

[nocturne niche]

As far as i see it, this 4 man idea is meant to be different to the usual clusters. To give it a try, to attract different people. To have a bit of varity. If you need 1000s of dinos ez breed. Stay on the other servers. If you wsnt qol, stay on the other servers. Its plenty of em

[magic forum]

you cant still get that ammount of tames, it will just take longer than 24 hrs

[mystic ivy]

less ammunition doesnt mean anything lol i can defend my base with 500 bullets per turret

[magic forum]

bro just wants fibercraft

[unique gyro]

i reduced arb stack to 125

[torpid imp]

Perfect, thanks Ronnie!

[unique gyro]

slight nerf, but should have a good affect

[mystic ivy]

not really it will take same as with props if theres cryo raising

[nocturne niche]

1 more arguement against cryo breeding

[stray ruin]

He is just mad because he needs to have hundreds of dinos day 3 so he can wipe everyone.

[unique gyro]

will help with the non mass breeding

[magic forum]

lets just make all props and breeding and raising 1000x so ban can have 50000 tames in 30 min of wipe

[unique gyro]

Fact of the matter, we won't get this perfect the first season

but it has a lot of promise

[torpid imp]

Of course not - Rome wasnt built in a day.

[stray ruin]

Ronnie, so are we keeping cryo raising or not?

[unique gyro]

up to you guys

but you guys arent agreeing

[stray ruin]

I am against it, other guys are for it

[magic forum]

i been wanting these rates since 2024 ;-;

[nocturne niche]

Strongly against it

[stray ruin]

I think if we want slower paced server, people should have less dinos. Cryo raising is just making it more easy to get larger number of dinos.

[worthy current]

there a vot in the other thread for it

[mystic ivy]

strongly for it

[stray ruin]

I mean we used to not have it, we used to have nanny for a long time and it was fine. Do we really need to have that feature on slow paced server?

[worthy current]

just vote on it and whichever has more votes then he can do that

[gusty jacinth]

need delete meks from shop = it's more pvp on OSD's

[nocturne niche]

Let us just put some effort into our dinos esp with reduced ammo stacks and harder boss fights

[worthy current]

https://discord.com/channels/235406555934228480/1491518101437546556

[unique gyro]

tame limit?

[pine quartz]

Bro how tf are you guys still arguing on ts😂😂

[mystic ivy]

meks from shop are dookey anyways

[mystic ivy]

whatever server can handle

[worthy current]

increased imo

[unique gyro]

not even dedicated can handle shit

[worthy current]

if tame limit is increased then its reasonable to remove cryo raising

[unique gyro]

wildcard didnt even implement dino stasis adjustment for asa like they did for ase

[mystic ivy]

if it will cause lag mot worth increasing

[worthy current]

but otherwise u gonna have to cycle dinos and its not reasonable to have no cryo raising

[unique gyro]

so dino unstasis is insansely large radius

[nocturne niche]

300

[pine quartz]

Breed a total of 4 lines at once

[worthy current]

I assume most tribes on the other clusters have nowhere near tame limit thrown out aside from a few. on this cluster every tribe will be near or at tame limit.

[storm phoenix]

https://discord.com/channels/235406555934228480/1491518101437546556

[pine quartz]

This why i said propagators people complain abt lag on normal servers imagine every tribe having 300 dinos thrown out contdantky breeding

[nocturne niche]

3 propagators

[worthy current]

well there is a infinite breed glitch with propogators so its not really an option unless that is fixed

[pine quartz]

Oh damn

[worthy current]

u can have 1 prop with 2 slots in it and its too much bc u can infinite breed

[nocturne niche]

Ok. No propagators

[mystic ivy]

need a 25% mek buff

[pine quartz]

I didnt know

[stray ruin]

Didn't we use to have like 600 tame limit without props in the past? Servers were laggy yes, but if we bump it up to 300, it could maybe work when server doesn't have to deal with other mods like ARKomatic and stuff?

[worthy current]

if that is fixed then prop is easily best option with a nanny imo. that would slow it down enough and ppl dont have fridges of tames while also not needing to spend 20 hours a day dealing with breeding and raising

@mystic ivy out here suggesting props lmao

[nocturne niche]

Believe it or not there are people enjoying that. Also lines will be a lot more valuable

[vagrant gazelle]

arkomatic is not that heavy i think mod wise biggest problem for servers are shit load of tames

[nocturne niche]

Cs mod lags

More effort more value

Longer lasting wipes

[worthy current]

@mystic ivy its not fixed

[stray ruin]

I heard something else, but I have never done any load tests with various mods against number of dinos, so I can't tell. Ronnie knows better.

[mystic ivy]

it is on 3man

[worthy current]

I did it on 6man last night

[pine quartz]

Bro kfc good asl after basketball practice

[torpid imp]

I actually can’t manage to read a single message from you

[pine quartz]

😂

My fault

Ill speak formal English from now on

[torpid imp]

No need!

[pine quartz]

Mate you just said you dont understand it😂

[stray ruin]

I think he wants to say that it doesn't matter

[torpid imp]

True, but I kind of doubt I get any valuable infomation from them, anyway.

Not to be rude, of course!

[pine quartz]

Took you that long to type that out

[torpid imp]

I’m on a phone:(

[stray ruin]

Or the guy is on some speed

[pine quartz]

I must say this some pretty valuble information

[torpid imp]

I was also debating not to write it haha

[pine quartz]

Me too

[pine quartz]

Fair enough

[stray ruin]

Anyways, have fun guys, time to go to bed, gn

[pine quartz]

Gn gang

[unreal pasture]

U act like that ain't a lot 😭 Jesus Christ man 20 fkn desmos

[mystic ivy]

brother i use 100-150 desmos per fob on big bases

[unreal pasture]

Jesus Christ man 😭 this seems a bit wasteful where are your bps bro

Ain't no way with a bp it's taking that many

[nocturne niche]

Can u stop plz. No 1 cares. Feels like there is nothing else in your life.

[mystic ivy]

depends on the base bro

some take less some take more

every time u go in 3 of u get about 5-10 turrets

and u lose 3 desmos

[unreal pasture]

Fair enough

[worthy current]

@torpid imp I think that not rushing to add new maps is good but if they all actually capped and ppl simming thats not a good thing and those people just wont play the wipe especially if they get in late

[magic forum]

is miniing drill going to be mod still?

[torpid imp]

Hopefully not.

Didnt see it on the test server at least.

[torpid imp]

I strongly disagree. People seeing a capped server, and they go ham for getting in it.

They’re gonna play either way, and they might join another map to start the wipe.

Makes ABB/LC/EXT actually maps that people might start on.

Exclusivity is a strong motivator for servers. E.g Astraeos on Arkpoc. The map was capped for almost 72 hours straight. We started on a different map.

[worthy current]

yeah I said if they actually "all" capped I think thats a big thing if people cant get in the cluster

if just center is capped and other maps 50 ppl then yeah I agree no new maps bc it just waters it down

[willow hare]

This is supposed to be suggestions to help admin decide the best options they can't decide if the entire thing is ppl arguing with each other

[torpid imp]

All maps wont be capped though - I just mean they shouldnt release 4 centers and 32 rags.

We’re discussing a post on: https://discord.com/channels/235406555934228480/1491518101437546556 - not seeing an issue at the moment.

Seeing 8 capped maps is more exclusive than seeing 14 semi full servers.

Wouldnt you agree?

[unique gyro]

we released that many because all maps capped at wipe launch

[golden grotto]

LMFAO

the boss fight thing is funny

[torpid imp]

LC/Ext/ABB, as well?

Not saying it’s anything wrong with adding servers to let people play, but I do think there’s a benifit to keep 1-2 servers per map.

[golden grotto]

I thought players wanted a slower pace game but asking for white and green drops to have boss stuff is funny

[torpid imp]

Gotta make some compremises, unfortunately.

[golden grotto]

thats clownish behavior lol

[autumn drift]

No free boss fits for begginer servers than or limit it to just center boss for begginers.

[unique horizon]

Make it like leggo my stego on ase

[autumn drift]

No way a beginner server that launches next day should get full bosses lol

[golden grotto]

Let people just farm the tributes and other stuff like normally

why are we asking for white and green drops to have boss tributes? This is a slower pace game

[autumn drift]

Cant. people block artifacts instantly. I would put them in shop not drops

[torpid imp]

I agree - I don’t want any beginner servers tbh

People can rebuild/start late

[golden grotto]

put no build zones on artifacts?

[unique horizon]

Takes away a lot of caves

[autumn drift]

Nah need beggienr servers just no benefits.

[golden grotto]

like the solution isnt to just give people free boss fights with points

[autumn drift]

That would be crazy lol island would be worthless

[autumn drift]

They are in the store now? Just make them more expensive

[torpid imp]

You do not need beginner servers though - you need an incentive for players to rebuild/start late

[autumn drift]

Yeah on fresh servers where build locations are avalible

[unique horizon]

Don’t have a wipe every weekend might help

[worthy current]

unfortuantely the idea is great but it doesnt work when a new cluster is wiping every week. they just go to a different cluster instead.

[torpid imp]

It’s of course a more long term thing, which could work later.

It just really depends on the population. Ronnie has stated that he would love nothing more than not wiping every week.

[worthy current]

not 4 man just eliteark in general

theres new EA wipe weekly

so ppl just move to the new wiped cluster instead of rebuilding on a old one

[torpid imp]

Long term it could be different though. As mentioned, the goal is assumingly keeping the population so there has to be less wipes.

Wipes right now are nesserary as the population does not hold for a week.

[zenith wing]

maybe just artifact in store, gotta gather tributes like official

i mean to be fair i usually just spend all my points afk center fights when im online alone

imagine seeing carchas farming sarcos! peak gameplay

Selling an ABB fight would be worth a lot

[autumn drift]

@zenith wing agreed lol would be great for trading market too

[zenith wing]

first person to get an alpha fang gonna be rich!

[autumn drift]

Selling boss fights would actually be worth it too if there were no beginner server boss kits

[zenith wing]

beginner boss fights are wild, some ppl just hide till it opens, transfer and gets all the bosses i had to fight/farm

[autumn drift]

Yeah people cycle there whole tribe through to get the boss fights on day two.

[upper glacier]

yeah ngl the only reason I’m against tributes not being in shop is because I personally can’t be asked to go find an alpha reaper or basilisk

I feel like anything that requires 1/1 alpha wise or any other rare tribute should be added to shop for reasonable points, along with artifact sets.

However stuff like allo brains and megalania toxin can stick to be forced to farm

[dawn olive]

I’ve seen the removal of dinos from shops but I’d say maybe keep some non breedables in such as the Basilisk and Reapers?

[mystic ivy]

u can breed basis

[upper glacier]

reapers and rhynios were asked to be removed

Idk if Ronnie followed up on it

[dawn olive]

Ahh okay I wasn’t aware my bad

[unreal pasture]

Just wait till he finds out karkis are breedable

[mystic ivy]

yh pretty much everything is breedable on ea

[unique gyro]

all but lc and abb, EXT did cap

[unique gyro]

no

ok here is what Ill do. Ill leave the boss kits in the shop.

and also add them to white drops, BUT make them give out less

[golden grotto]

i actually dont think white drops should contain any tributes

just artifacts

slow pace game doesnt need boss shop at all

[unique gyro]

this is going to get to the point of being insanely slow

and 10 tribes will have only completed boss by sunday and everyone will quit

[torpid imp]

Not bad!

[golden grotto]

thats what a slow pace server is, not everyone should be in tek or have tek turrets.

Limit the white drops a lot

let them farm the tributes themselves

[torpid imp]

I don’t see anything wrong with tributes being in drops.

[golden grotto]

its a slower pace cluster we shouldnt be giving out free boss fights for everyone? We got rid of crafters and most of the other mods as well

[torpid imp]

I still think it’s healthy to keep servers capped instead of releasing more servers though.

[torpid imp]

To be honest, the people doing boss fights are not going to be limited by the tributes.

But it’s a fair point, I really don’t care if theyre in or not. I don’t see the issue

[mystic ivy]

it would be a good idea if everyone was similar skill level

like this its pointless

[unique gyro]

if 200 people are waiting to join, they arent going to wait 24 hours for open slots

[torpid imp]

You’re always getting in, it just takes a little while

Ref, arkpocalypse astraeos being capped for 72 hours straight

Took 5 min of join simming

[upper glacier]

people actually wait queue instead of spam refresh?

[torpid imp]

I’m not trying to be difficult here, but the que in ark does not work. You have to spam join.

It’s a bait to join the «queue» thats on the game

Understandable that people go for the bait though

[worthy current]

ext 100 percent caps on here, might need 2 with this wipe tbh

[upper glacier]

I feel like lost colony is underrated early game for farming but people don’t like it

Never seen it cap tho

[torpid imp]

I don’t know, I definitely wouldn’t, but I’m not calling the shots! Just being an avid suggester for this cluster

[worthy current]

also half the ppl dont have it atleast

[upper glacier]

skill tree alone justifies picking it up on sale ngl

[mystic ivy]

how much is it rn

[upper glacier]

depends on ur platform

[worthy current]

yeah thats about the only thing, its 30 dollars for a dlc on a 10 yr old game and it doesnt even include the dinos u gotta pay 10 dollars for them seperately

js most ppl prob dont have it thats y it dont cap im guessing

[mystic ivy]

#deleteasa

[upper glacier]

some people don’t even own astraeos and that’s a top 3 map on asa

[mystic ivy]

#bringaseback

i wouldnt have astraeos if big man pamzee didnt fund it for me for a fob 💀

[upper glacier]

single-handedly one of the best if not the best farming map

[mystic ivy]

osds on it go crazy

[worthy current]

astraeos is just best map in general tbh

[upper glacier]

lot of work been put into it

even before the desert addition

[mystic ivy]

is element transferable for this 4ma. do we know yet

[worthy current]

it has most viable base spots of any map tbh

[upper glacier]

I don’t see why not

[mystic ivy]

bro i won the wager

i killed him after he killed me 16 times

[worthy current]

hopefully, wouldnt make sense otherwise

[mystic ivy]

i didnt take the giftcard tho i felt bad

[worthy current]

aint no way

[mystic ivy]

yeah ahahahahahahahha

[worthy current]

im boutta have 2 ppl on 1st day of wipe for 4man, gonna have some catching up to do 💀

[mystic ivy]

bad start

ur cooked

[worthy current]

dont matter when u the comp 💀

nah i htink lot of ppl will comp this cluster tbh, seems like ppl are pretty interested. hopefully they play and arent just yapping in suggestions

[mystic ivy]

youll see there will be 0 comp

the suggestion yappers play for 2h a day

[zenith wing]

he isnt wrong on this one, need others to get tek turrets or server wiped by the weekend

[zenith wing]

haha ive always said keyboard warriors should have higher prio :p

welcoem to the club

[pine quartz]

Thank you ronnie they just want straight vanilla settings and only the 10x rates for a server that wipes every 5 weeks not to mention most these mfs will be wiped by day 3 straight delusion

[torpid imp]

it’s got better, but still kind of unreadable.

[worthy current]

nah its worse

I could understand this mf before, now hes out here casting spells n shit

[cinder shoal]

Yo Ronnie are meks still going to be op

Cause if so drop them back to normal 😂 they don’t need to be buffed like hell

[stray ruin]

W take. Also what I was saying but unfortunately people wanted otherwise. Similar with automatic cryo raising.

[worthy current]

hes larping, hes not playing the wipe

[stray ruin]

Doesnt matter, we are trying to make cluster where everyone gets everything but thats the point of slower cluster - you need to work on it and its not fully free. We are suffering from the fact that we are designing it for EA people instead of trying to make it for people who would maybe at some point join from officials or other lower rate servers.

Those people currently dont play here, because servers are simply too boosted.

So yeah, we are trying to have more longevity, while players here don't care about it and they arent mostly commited to it.

[worthy current]

remind me how you would like boss fights to be earned?

[stray ruin]

Leave artifacts in shop or white drops, let people farm the tributes

[worthy current]

put in here then https://discord.com/channels/235406555934228480/1491518101437546556

[stray ruin]

And if people are super butthurt about alpha abb, okay let them have alpha reaper and basi tributes in shop, but common tributes should be always farmed period

People should go out there and kill dinos and compete in the world

But I thought that for once we will have completely new thing. Not the usual shit with known routes, where you know that lots of important things are delivered to you. Thats why I am salty, I would normally play even arkpoc if there werent so many cheaters. And the fact that we do same thing every wipe in terms of settings kind of made me take a break from EA also.

I was first excited for this when I saw very little modding, but now when we complain about many things that are part of the game and take effort, my excitement basically vanished, because it seems like it will be quite similar yet again. Yes slightly slower, but still similar.

We are saying that clusters die too fast and we need to protect those people by delivering stuff to them - on arkpoc or for example conquest nothing is delivered, yet people keep playing. And those people we should try to attract here, not those who quit after weekend no matter what.

Cluster will have always longevity based on the community. And if the community is here for fast gameplay and quitting after day 3, then it will happen here as well, no matter what quality of life you do.

So yeah, if you want different type of people in community, you need different type of cluster and give it time to grow. Like this it just feels like we are making flop that not as many people will enjoy here and it won't even attract new players who otherwise wouldnt consider EA at all.

[nocturne niche]

Exactly

[torpid imp]

You cannot not agree that this cluster is a great start though. As previously mentioned, Rome was not built in a day. Keep suggesting improvements, and we can form the perfect cluster within time. There’s no reason to complain.

[stray ruin]

The problem is, that most players here want shortcuts, which is why they are here. For that reason unless you do less popular decisions to attract wider varienty of players, then ur not building Rome. You are just building another conquest cluster, which will be scrapped after few wipes, because its not as popular.

Look at previous polls on server rates, people want 15-25x with overwhelming majority over 10x, because the community was built around this.

And this same community wants these "compromises" and they will always want them.

But literally all clusters are same with minor tweaks with peak being limited tek

[stray badger]

We all saw what happened when EA removed CS mod for a single wipe. People lost their mind despite the CS mod causing so many server issues

[stray ruin]

Yes

What I am looking for is new cluster, where new community would be building over time.

Does everyone need to play all clusters?

[torpid imp]

I of course agree with you, but we’re not calling the shots, the community and Ronnie is. There’s nothing more we can do but suggest.

[stray ruin]

Why cant we have cluster that is simply not for every average EA Joe?

[stray ruin]

And thats where my frustration comes from.

For once I thought we can do something else

But as long as you listen to majority, you are doomed to fail.

Because what majority wants is already here

Thats why all clusters are same

[torpid imp]

To be honest, Ronnie has been listening to my suggestions, as I actually use punctuation, and give him a reasonable lists.

I just don’t see the issue with the boss tributes, as it won’t be that affecting on gameplay.

[stray ruin]

This has to be Ronnie, who would need to make a call, making something like this while ignoring the majority, taking it as potential future investment, which also might not end up coming back.

[torpid imp]

Ronnie’s been doing a great job on this cluster. Nothing but respect to the guy.

[stray ruin]

I cant say anything on that, to me EA is best ASA cluster there is, period. The only thing I have is that I am a bit burnt out from the same stuff over and over.

And to me its combination of boss tributes and cryo raising.

[torpid imp]

This is wildy different from anything else they got though. That’s why I think it’s such a good start.

[stray ruin]

To me cryo raising is just lazy - you dont need to maintain resources and it just happens for you.

[stray ruin]

Conquest was also good start, where is it now?

[torpid imp]

Conquest was fibercraft with land bases. I didnt even bother to play.

[stray ruin]

And do you know why was that?

[torpid imp]

It had the same fast paced style, with more administration needs.

[stray ruin]

Because thats what majority wanted

Compromises

Thats what it was

And I am very agraid that thats what this will be

[torpid imp]

There’s a wild difference between complete fibercraft, and boss tributes.

I really hope youre seeing that too.

[stray ruin]

This cluster will be less popular for the moment and how to fix it? More compromises towards fast paced.

[torpid imp]

Maybe, you wont know that, yet.

[stray ruin]

I am seeing that, but I also see the pattern

I have been around for years

Thats why I am frustrated, because I am very afraid it will end up like every other interesting idea

Compromised into general cluster setup

[torpid imp]

I bet, but you also sound quite negative. I believe in postivity, and postive feedback.

No reason to complain, rather giving feedback to improve.

[stray ruin]

I have been positive in the past, never worked

[torpid imp]

Negativity wont help either!

[stray ruin]

But maybe you will succeed with your approach this time

[torpid imp]

Hopefully!

[stray ruin]

Its not the negativity, its about being loud.

And as I said its just trying different approach for me, nothing else.

[worthy current]

Bro try to suggest something and have a level headed discussion with ppl to convince them, what u said abt the bosses I lowk agreed when u said it like a normal person. It lowk looks like ur having a panic attack writing this tho, just chill out and keep suggesting stuff without whining.

[nocturne niche]

My suggestion. Again. No cryo breeding. Artefacts in drops, maybe ab alpha stuff in drops on ab. But rare. Nanny, if not, 1 time imprint. No starter kits. Reduce ele in osds,maybe raise it in bosses ,reduce saddle and flak caps. Vanilla drops. The usual dino bans for 72h

[autumn drift]

No props and no cryo raising will be hard with lower Dino cap

[torpid imp]

I would advice you to make a fresh suggestion as this basically has become a discussion post

[crude minnow]

You stole my gif

You all seem passionate about this and I hope it’s fun, but some of you aren’t clear on how official loot table works

[worthy current]

https://discord.com/channels/235406555934228480/1491518101437546556 put here with separate suggestions for each idea, they’ll never see that.

[worthy current]

How so

[crude minnow]

I saw someone saying 750 dura flak was good for official

I have mates on ark poc with full 2.5k dura

Just seems like a lot of the people in suggestions havent ever even played with official loot pool, it’s not bad

Just has a lot of junk

[worthy current]

Just ban

But he just speaks 😂

[worthy current]

2.5 kinda wild tho tbh

Haven’t played since ase so I wouldn’t know and when I did play it was all duped bps anyway so idk what official loot pool flak is either tbh.

[crude minnow]

Official tek is better than EA tek currently too

Will be may more people in capped suits

[worthy current]

Yeah no dead zone tho, not many ppl can craft em

[crude minnow]

Astra is just as good

If not slightly worse

Oh and, we make most of lava island no build 🙂 no more turret PvP

[worthy current]

Astra better imo but gonna be comped like crazy.

[worthy current]

Good, I was lowk boutta suggest that

Since it’ll be main source of ele. All the tps gonna be gone now?

[crude minnow]

Yeah you can’t really build at all near any spawns

[worthy current]

W

[crude minnow]

With our recent policy change on punishments for owt we are seeing a decrease in reports about them aswell so thats good

[worthy current]

/mute @ornate tangle

[crude minnow]

I might

[worthy current]

Oh he dmed me, he already muted 😂

Wonder why

[worthy current]

Y u downvote the mek nerf 😂

Btw is there a viable alternative for people without astraeos to farm ele? I have it but just curious for others. Might be lil cooked with no dead zone for lot of ppl without dlc.

[crude minnow]

Cause I like raiding

[crude minnow]

Not really just Midas touch

[worthy current]

Midas touch for what? Are veins on any other maps?

[crude minnow]

Ext

[pine quartz]

Gang 3/4 of the cluster are gonna be wiped by day 3 bro

[forest acorn]

yea ok go play official ngl

[torpid imp]

I would appreciate if you would ignore this cluster if youre a standard 100x dude - If you think this is offical, you should wait till next wipe

[forest acorn]

chill out on the writing bud, what u mean 100x, never played this in my life

[torpid imp]

I replied in the friendliest manner, what do you mean?

[forest acorn]

youll see ... i mean i know a lot will like but this will annoy small player really fast without some tools i mean

[forest acorn]

the lengh

not the manner

[torpid imp]

I really don't know what you mean, sorry

[forest acorn]

youll see just people are gonna be annoyed fast its like playing official gang

[knotty osprey]

those people have 4 other clusters to play no?

[forest acorn]

the weekend u almost have the same boost (almost) dont get me wrong

[forest acorn]

yea but im talking about 4 man bud, u like how it is and i dont so im just giving my point

[knotty osprey]

but your point is assumption in regards to other players based on your personal views?

[torpid imp]

This has been voted and suggested since the 16th of january. I really don't think your opinion matter at this moment

But you're of course free to give suggestions on the matter!

[forest acorn]

Yep

[forest acorn]

Im giving my tought so don’t really care if its gonna be changed or not

[torpid imp]

fair enough!

[cyan swallow]

Hows the infinite breed glitch work?

[cinder shoal]

It’s patched

Been patched for around a month now

Unless they found another one l 😂

[chrome sphinx]

Will there be Deazone on the 4man cause without it its kinda boring

There is no spot then where you can come to pvp for loot or fun

[cyan swallow]

No deadzone

[chrome sphinx]

From where do you know

@cyan swallow

Why you want to disable it?Its just a place to pvp and make easier veins and osds

[torpid imp]

astra lava island is the new deadzone on 4 man

[chrome sphinx]

😑☠️

Wdy new deadzone

You have 10fps there cause of lava and smoke

@torpid imp

[cinder shoal]

ext

[chrome sphinx]

But why no deadzone

[cyan swallow]

Idk why but Ronnie said it in one of the 4 man suggestion posts lemme see if i can't find it

[chrome sphinx]

@unique gyro Reason ?

[cyan swallow]

Yo never ping Ronnie only warning

[vagrant gazelle]

!warn @chrome sphinx Pinging Ronnie

[tiny solar]

tokyoben24 has been warned

Reason: Pinging Ronnie

[cyan swallow]

I was just gonna give a verbal first time but alr

[vagrant gazelle]

he already here for almost 2 years he should know

[unreal pasture]

It had to be done

[unique gyro]

the reason is you guys wanted default loot

deadzone is not

[vagrant gazelle]

yeah i dont get that tbh lol default loot is still saddles weapons flak but also 1000000% more random trash items

like canteens

[mystic ivy]

cant wait for my stone structures from osds

[cyan swallow]

I dont either but hey let people have what they want ig

[unique gyro]

I cant wait for everyone to complain about it lol

[cyan swallow]

Its gonna be the greatest I told you so ever

[unique gyro]

but hey, I can change drops even day 2

its easy

so this way it gets it out of their system

[cyan swallow]

Fair enough

[vagrant gazelle]

true maybe a pool in announcements

[cyan swallow]

Nah let it ride day 1

[vagrant gazelle]

with a reminder what default loot looks like

[cyan swallow]

Make them feel the consequences of their decision

[stray ruin]

Guys, yes everyone here is used to what is on every other cluster and the point of this cluster is to have something else

Is having harder time to get good bps and stuff automatically bad?

[cyan swallow]

Not necessarily just saying people will probably bitch about it

[stray ruin]

Yes

Because everyone wants all the freebies they can get

[vagrant gazelle]

cant wait for those cave drops (with normal % dmg)

cant wait for my full hide sets xd

[cyan swallow]

W drops

The pistol low key would go hard tho

[vagrant gazelle]

yes and no xd

day 1 yes every other day no xd

[chrome sphinx]

Roonie can you make some votes for everyone so you can see the majority for the server settings would be was easier then reading 500 messages in Suggestions

And maybe mention everythin in a announcement tdy or early tmr to get a little overview for the settings

[torpid imp]

To be honest, getting full flak 2k dura is super easy on offical loot

just fyi

1 ice queen and a helicoprion.

[crude minnow]

People are too worried about the official loot pool

It’s not bad, has very good items just a lot of junk

It has better flak and tek as a higher rate that ea does currently too

[torpid imp]

Yep - it has more of a gambling feel to it.

You can get a stone hatchet or 2k dura chest bp

[stray ruin]

But again, is that a bad thing?

Some things being more rare, so its not enough to just run some drops several times to be set for wipe?

[zenith wing]

Agreed official loot will be fun to get something good, instead of just guaranteed. Lf capped cloth set

[torpid imp]

I’m all for offical loot!

[stray ruin]

I will say again, you boys just want your freebies and ideally same config every single wipe, with some minor twists, so you can replay it over and over. Give this a chance and also boys, not everyone has to play every cluster.

[torpid imp]

It’s especially juicy when finding indiustrial forge and grinder in the same red drop

[knotty osprey]

Oh noo, why are we being punished for being unknowledgable

So weird how ark is actually supposed to have a skill/knowledge gap right?

The fun part is that it’s unironically easier to get flak bps on official than eliteark

[chrome sphinx]

Its not,did you play Just-Zone 4man 10x there is no big different to 15x you either have fullt tek base day 1…

[torpid imp]

I did absolutely not

sounds like the standard fibercraft 10x

I bet it's infinite weight, arkomatic ect?

[chrome sphinx]

Yeah it is I guess the third most populated cluster on asa

[storm phoenix]

all i typed in was "the point went over his head"

[chrome sphinx]

No infinte wait

[storm phoenix]

and that was the first thing to pop up

[torpid imp]

oh only 10k per level then

[chrome sphinx]

It is all in all slower then elite

[chrome sphinx]

No I think 300 per level on 4man

[torpid imp]

Not slower than this cluster though 🙂

[chrome sphinx]

Its the same farming amount both 10x justzone just have the regular mods

[storm phoenix]

Official OSDs can be kinda insane

[chrome sphinx]

Arkomatic,cs etc

[torpid imp]

It's not all about harvesting rates, mister

[knotty osprey]

Official cavedrops in the right caves are 1k+ dura bps frequentlt

Osds are kinda meh in comparison

[storm phoenix]

add library back in
add ARB blueprints to loottable somewhere, either shop, rockwell, osds, etc.

[torpid imp]

you find them in drops

[storm phoenix]

how many drops do u wanna farm?

id rather just do rockwell 6 times

[knotty osprey]

Line up 20 fabs

[torpid imp]

lmao

[knotty osprey]

Aint worse than that

[storm phoenix]

20 fabs crafting 6k is better than 20 fabs crafting 1k

[knotty osprey]

Let the people who wanna scale scale

[chrome sphinx]

It is if your are writing about indi forge is big…I farm you 100 indis day 1

[knotty osprey]

Never had any need for more than 30 fabs without bps on any cluster ever

[torpid imp]

yeah, i just mean it's satisfying getting an indi forge in a red drop day 1

[storm phoenix]

either way u will need 50 fabs, but arb blootprints is nice

[chrome sphinx]

Yeah we need libary back why it got disabled?

[knotty osprey]

99% of the arb u get from raiding regarldess

Defo nice ti have yeah

[storm phoenix]

u need arb to raid, atleast like 4 dedis for any good tribe

depending on size of the base

[knotty osprey]

This is eliteark, not mesa or smalls

[storm phoenix]

ok and?

[knotty osprey]

Point not taken?

[storm phoenix]

mesa is a dead server and smalls has inf loot

i could make 40 dedis of arb in a day on smalls

[knotty osprey]

Mesa is the only unofficial on asa/ase along with inx that is competetive

[chrome sphinx]

Ofc mister alpha

[knotty osprey]

Callin it dead is mad

[storm phoenix]

thats a normal thing bruh

[storm phoenix]

mesa asa dies after 2 days

and ase is irrelevant

[chrome sphinx]

Ill see that if you spawing nake at the beach and not being in a mega tribe that dupes there shit idiot

[storm phoenix]

obv if ur a fresh start u wont be able to do it

but any built tribe can do that

thats the point

[knotty osprey]

Mesa dies when tribescore comes up, can you deduce why?

Same thing was with mts

[storm phoenix]

mesa never touches over 500 pop

[chrome sphinx]

Yeah cause Mesa came to late

[storm phoenix]

so its a dead server?

[knotty osprey]

Mesas last years peak was 1800+on wipe

[storm phoenix]

a year ago...

[chrome sphinx]

Ase yeah…

Not Asa

[knotty osprey]

^

Ase trends are 99.99% relatable to asa

Omly difference is that way less good players play asa than ase, even noe

[storm phoenix]

2 different games, 2 different metas

[knotty osprey]

Yet very comparable

[storm phoenix]

not the different maps, or dinos, or any other mechanic in the game?

where does ase have a skill tree?

[knotty osprey]

The skill tree and the few different tames are an insanely large factor as to why a server has less pop retention

You’re avsolutely correct

[storm phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-really-stressed-mad-angry-gif-16109475

fs man

[mystic ivy]

cant wait to run an osd to wave 200 on 4man

full set of 2000 dura flak day 1

[crude minnow]

Yeah I read in a suggestion that event flak needed to be limited to 750 cause it’s offical loot pool lol

People don’t realize how op the flak is about to be

[mystic ivy]

bro peopel are suggesting stuff but they dont know what official loot pool is

they think we will all ahvw 600 dura flak

[crude minnow]

Yeah lol

They don’t realize how much good flak and tek is available on official

[mystic ivy]

shits gonna go crazy cant wait for the complaints in suggestions to cap flak for 4man lol

[storm phoenix]

there r no limits on it lol

[crude minnow]

Yeah and people were saying we needed to limit events to 45 stat tames and 750 flak, I think a lot of people havent played on official loot table

If you have ever played rust it’s kinda like that, lots of shit but when it’s not shit it’s a W pull

[mystic ivy]

do dino stats change i thought they dstay the same

[crude minnow]

Yeah but you can easily tame a 45 stat dino

[storm phoenix]

official rust is where it’s at

[crude minnow]

Idk if we are doing rare Dino tho

[mystic ivy]

this desmo nerf gonna kill me

[storm phoenix]

i got 8k hours between moose and toria

[upper glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/black-nerd-black-nerd-gif-26919340

[storm phoenix]

@crude minnow deleting the ss is crazy

bro didn’t wanna get roasted

[worthy current]

shouldnt

[nocturne niche]

Remove rare dino.

[unique gyro]

no they aren't.

And ASE is 10000% content creator followers

[knotty osprey]

I’ve spent nearly 1-2k hours on mesa/inx the past 1-2 years

Barely anyone on the 2 competetive clusters cares about the content creators

I’ve yet to know one single top tier player who migrated to asa from ase for more than 1 month except those forced to move due to official shutting down

[tawny gate]

60 points per hour is terrible

[knotty osprey]

Should be 5

[storm phoenix]

just don’t rely on shop

[magic forum]

100%

[knotty osprey]

Someone should make a recipe: how to play ark without shop or element cave

[copper ocean]

Lol

Dododex

[unique gyro]

you guys tested the exp for player and dinos?>

[knotty osprey]

On a serious note, just hope there wont be all 6 backup maps. Diluting the pop over more maps gives less incentive for new people to join progressively due to the low player pop pr map

[storm phoenix]

it felt a lil above smalls

[knotty osprey]

Was perfect

[magic forum]

yep

[unique gyro]

ok wonderful

its a bitch to get right sometimes

[storm phoenix]

u didn’t like me and my dodo?

[magic forum]

is the shop on test the official shop?

[mystic ivy]

remove desmo nerf

[knotty osprey]

You doing an extra island for bossfights?

[mystic ivy]

not gonna be able to muta them as much they are already shit at base stat

[knotty osprey]

Were desmos a metadino on ea?

[mystic ivy]

its the most impirtant dino in the game

[magic forum]

u cant even spell important

[knotty osprey]

Most bullied dino in the game

[mystic ivy]

its called a typo u downie

[unique gyro]

yes

[nocturne niche]

Rota?

[knotty osprey]

Kinda not counting content creators since the discussion was about ase keeping its pop DUE TO the content creeators there

[mystic ivy]

all good players are on ase asa is filled with pve players

[knotty osprey]

Glad that we agree on something atleast

[nocturne niche]

So that makes you guys what?

[mystic ivy]

pve players

only playin cuz this shit free yet to get pushed off from a fob

its more fun than having an astro shit on you

[nocturne niche]

Dont realy know what you want to tell me

[mystic ivy]

also dont like the meta on ase way too fast paced

[nocturne niche]

Allright

Got u

[knotty osprey]

Chelon and astra spam

Dont miss it in the slightest

[stray ruin]

So, will there be cryo raising or no?

[autumn drift]

Please no boss engrams for beginner servers lol

Or at least no ascensions

[unique gyro]

we wont

at least not for 1.5 weeks

[knotty osprey]

has there been any consideration of adding a prolonged timer for damage debuff after uncryoing to combat the bola -> theri meta that currently is

[storm phoenix]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1490954905215828130/1491504951946510596/image.png?ex=69d9413b&is=69d7efbb&hm=85bb214691e0d8089f254300f35570b125663a2a716dc8a819a2976eee986e35&

[autumn drift]

Let’s fucking gooooooo 🐐

[cinder shoal]

So no cryo raising?

[storm phoenix]

cryo raising will be a thing

[torpid imp]

Annoncement looking clean!

I’ve already mentioned this like five times already, but great job to Ronnie and his team! Never thought it would happend when I made the suggestion.

[chrome sphinx]

Will there be custom Maeguana Spawns anywhere on the 4man

[zealous sage]

Thank you for the suggestion in the first place

https://tenor.com/view/doolwind-the-office-jet-attack-move-attack-move-jet-attack-gif-8593685078102904069

[naive sage]

Pretty sure they are the same custom spawns

Just nerfed a little where there isn’t a million

[sand night]

ADD A NANNY

[cinder shoal]

Cryo raising shit dumb dumb

[sand night]

Won’t work dumb dumb

[nocturne niche]

Can we get some more informations about settings?

[vagrant gazelle]

Settings:
4man Tribes
10x rates
7x EXP rates
400 tame limit
Melee reduced
Torp Reduced
15x taming and breeding rates
Official Loot. White drops will have boss + tributes but very limited compared to other clusters.
125 ARB stack limit.
No Propagator breeding. We are going to go back to testing this out without them. We can easily add Propagator back if needed. (We could add just the propagator and limit it low) Up to you guys.
Light mods only (e.g. Cryopods, Omnitool only mod, Crafting skill potion and ORP)
No Autocrafters / Arkomatic
Shop Limited some from main shop.
Lootboxes also altered to match the 10x Vibe.
Nerf Weight and Melee rates.
No starter kits
No custom Ele Caves, or resource caves. But Drop caves yes.
Limit Maeguana spawn some.
Aureliax Banned

Current dino buffs:
Trike (Buff 1.25x res)
Theri (Buff 1.25x dmg)
Rhino (Buff 1.25x-2.00 dmg)
Spino (Buff 1.5x dmg)
Racer (Buff 1.25x res)
Reaper (Buff 1.25x-2.00 dmg)

• more

Nerfs:

Wyverns- 25%
Desmos- 25%
Maelizard 50%

this is the current stuff that we know what else u wanna know?

[zealous sage]

Cryoraising possible with/without imprint? Nanny available?

[vagrant gazelle]

there is no info rn on that keep an eye on #🔺asa-announcements tho

maybe a higher up got more infos on that

[zealous sage]

Alright ty. Something that should be clear at wipe imo so it’s not a trial and error during playing

[knotty osprey]

Ability to get 30 heavies 3 hours into a slow paced wipe was a bit off imo

From lootboxes

Shouldve been held back until the average player coudl reach such numbers through normal gameplay

[zenith wing]

Bro tesla coils are back, end me now

[zealous sage]

In the end they still gotta keep server up and not do this shit for free $$

[knotty osprey]

It was supposed to be balanced out you know, to better fit in with the spirit of this specific cluster

[cinder shoal]

Yeah they unbanned everything lmao

Flame is back too

This wipe is wrapped 😂 Tesla are so dumb

[mystic ivy]

i wiped my whole server

8 hours in lmao

hopefully it was one of the people suggesting stupid stuff

[unreal pasture]

Flame was gone? Like flame items or flame thrower

[zenith wing]

you guys ever see a cave drop so fresh

[unique gyro]

well no, lootboxes were delayed 4 hours, and spectating around people had way more than 30 heavies by 4th hour

we had test server up for 5 days

[knotty osprey]

You're telling me, with vanilla smelting and no starterkits that people had spent 24k ingots+++ on jsut the heavies themselves 4 hours into wipe

we had 50 forges + 8 indis cooking and even then 30+ heavies would be a reach

been enjoying the server a lot, very impressed by it. But just felt a bit odd finding a simple base with a couple of heavies, then go back to get the tames and the boom only to return to unironically 30-40 heavies spammed everywhere in the span of 30 minutes

[zenith wing]

honestly 4 man has been awesome, even with not being able to transfer its been fun

[nocturne niche]

4 man is realy realy good. I feel like its a lot of fun. Allthough we got attacked by a tribe 2 h in with at least 80 rockets, felt a bit sus. Never the less. Good work ronnie and thx for that.

Feels a bit like good old ark

[nocturne niche]

U r just a little prick.

[ionic shore]

Crying bout a Tesla is crazy work

[sand night]

Cluster just not balanced at all. 10x is good but compared to the xp gain and breeding time it’s shit. A giga needs 19 hours to finish raising. Also takes hella long to clone by the time any1 even has tames to go raid the cluster even already dead or they’ll sit in a broken ass cave. Also the loot pool is way to bad getting hide armor out red cave drops is hard. But lootboxes give flak bps

[glossy kiln]

we found full flak bps in desert and uw drops in just a few hours. the loot isnt even bad and there is so many ways to farm loot reliably

[cinder shoal]

The raising is the problem people quit before we can raise the shot to raid

[flint idol]

Bro u can’t transfer servers the rates weren’t the problem lmao

[unreal pasture]

The rates were half the transfer was definitely the other half

[worthy current]

yeah noone could play game first day pretty much

rates are not an issue at all

levels on dios are bit of an issue tho

[flint idol]

If ppl wanna make Dino xp slightly higher sure, but wiping 2 beginner a day after the server also don’t help and the fact that Xavis wiped the day after. Might as well have a massive Saturday wipe at 11, or 1 instead of Friday

Andy actually have a lot of ppl praising the rates there literally like 4 of the same ppl complaining everyone has enjoyed the change of pace. It was a rough launch no doubt but on another weekend with no wild card issues it’ll certainly be way better

[zenith wing]

rough launches are the funnest launches, dig through the trenches boys!!!!