Active pyromane

[frigid gust]

Active Pyromane its good but no broken dino

[burnt osprey]

i totally agree it should be added on all clusters.

i mean people pay money to then be told you cant use it because its unfair to those that havent purchased it, then maybe they should purchase it as well.

[frigid gust]

Yeah totally agree I pay for play pyromane

[sour schooner]

pyromanes are severely unbalanced in multiple ways.

they are a open world "run away" tame that u dont even need to pop u can keep it on ur shoulder.

they do a large aoe burn dmg even off of tames...

[burnt osprey]

It’s a survival game, one way people specially less experienced people survive is by running away.

[sour schooner]

maewings already exist for that purpose and they offer nothing offensively

which is how a "run away" tame should work..

also one of the major arguments in the other suggestion asking for nets is that they prevent running away...

but now thats "part of the survival game"

[odd harness]

I agree pyros are a bad idea

[burnt osprey]

they do, that still does not change the fact that running away is part of the game

[north temple]

Most people are average with pyros, but someone with practice is almost impossible to kill. you pick and he insta pyros from shoulder and dashes away mid air. OP af

[frigid gust]

Banning the pyromane because it's used to escape doesn't make much sense, a maewana is extremely fast to escape and that doesn't mean it's banned, the charcha has incredible damage just like the giga and it's not banned either and if the idea is to ban unbalanced things for example dreadnotus that would be something really broken

and not to mention the titans, another incredibly broken dino

The pyromane is a good dino without a doubt, but it's like banning the shadowmane in the ace.

Have good damage and its crazy for run

[sour schooner]

horrible comparison.

maewing has great escape option. but realistically no dmg

giga/carcha has very very low mobility and high dmg.

pyro allows you to run. allows you to fight. massive aoe burn. and unlike every other time it doubles as a fucking shoulder pet that u can panic pull out with one key press rather than equip cryo --> throw cryo --> mount dino.

do dreadnoughts need balancing? probably. i havent seen ppl use them much in the 5man wipe so idk how bad they are on here.

they were ridiculous on conquest

titans are not op considering how long they take to download and how u have plentiful time to kill the titan before it downloads.

[slim vapor]

Manas are also an escape Dino

[slim vapor]

Dreads are balanced tbh

[gloomy marsh]

hell nah dont bring back that trash dino i paid for it but doesnt mean i want it to terrorize the server

[frigid gust]

The only difference between Mana or Shadowmane and Pyromane is that you don't have to get it out of cryo, just that, I'm not saying it's a bad dio obviously but it's not as unbalanced as for example a Noglin or something like that, you can even reduce its life or base damage, I think it should be there since people buy it to be able to play it and enter the server and not see it is a bit disappointing

[gloomy marsh]

1 lags the server
2 if you are in the wilds its gonna kill you if you dont have the right things to counter them
3 broken for early raids
o and a lot of servers doesnt even have it so if you paid for it you are gonna play official other than that dont buy it, like i said i have it but i dont wanna to encounter them in the best server of ark (elite)

[frigid gust]

You can't tell me it's causing lag, and having the Brontosaurus enabled, which is the dinosaur that causes the most lag, will kill you if it catches you without flak or a weapon in the wild.

I understand that you don't want it on the server, and I respect that, but your arguments sound like someone who hasn't been playing ARK for more than 100 hours. No offense.

[gloomy marsh]

Surely i havent played surely right?, the bronto doesnt insta go for you, and doesnt create random fire , what you mean it lags more lol

[frigid gust]

You said that it causes lag on the server, and it doesn't cause any lag compared to the brontosaurus. It seems that you have never seen 3 brontosaurus together and suddenly your fps drops to 20.

And if the pyromane, when he sees you, is going to attack you just like the giga, the carcha, the carno, the shadowmane, the ying ling, the rex, the reaper, etc., etc., if your complaint for this ban is that in the wild he goes for you and kills you, then don't play ARK, this is a survival game.

[gloomy marsh]

this guy lol, my fps doesnt drop with 100 brontos

if causes SERVER LAG

[snow roost]

It’s from berry farming with them I’m guessing

[gloomy marsh]

that can be a thing

but who does that?

[snow roost]

Idk people did it a lot in ase

[tall dune]

that was disabled in asa mate

idk if you’ve played but they hit like 1 bush per swing

[snow roost]

they are banned on every server I’ve been on so I didn’t know

[sour schooner]

brontos cause lag when harvesting and they have not been tameable/rideable on eliteark for as long as ive played it lol

they were tameable but not rideable towards gen2 era of ase as they were used for noglins/rhynios

[ruby latch]

They're strong but I like them they're a cool tame add tek canteen and it's great

[burnt osprey]

i totally agree.

[mint warren]

Pyros got nerfed on elite as well as a base nerf and you can easily bola them, not really a game breaking tame anymore tbh , I rarely even use them now tbh

[frigid gust]

So why are they banned? It doesn't make sense if they're already nerfed.

[mint warren]

It was voted on to many ppl don't like them

[muted dome]

Like one of my fav dive dino

[dry fulcrum]

Fr like we paid for it let us play with them

[burnt osprey]

Yup

[gloomy marsh]

i paid for it tho and aint glazing them

bad for the game, toxic, if you want it it should be 5% health and 3% dmg

[mint warren]

They got nerfed into the ground, all you need to do is land a bola on them aint that hard to deal with imo

[long nest]

They could be probably unbanned now on all cluster cause they aren’t broken in my opinion, they can can bola’d, bola timer is 30 seconds, you should able to do something within 30 seconds to able to win that fight

[burnt osprey]

Yes please

[muted dome]

Idc about damage and shit make it 0% if u want, only want them for diving walls

[ruby latch]

brother who builds walls

[slim vapor]

I think your forgetting no terrain turrets from now on

Gonna have to build some type of structure

[ruby latch]

only on 5 man

[gloomy marsh]

thats the problem tho 💀 \

[burnt osprey]

They will revert back to terrain turrets I’m sure of it

And they will eventually add nets as well

[true blaze]

regardless not every base you can get 100 terrain turrets at range of a choke walls are still valid just not like ase

[tall dune]

yea if u main elite and they are banned obviously you don’t use them

if you go on 1x you will not find anyone without one at any time

[burnt osprey]

Tbf even in other popular servers they are available

[tall dune]

heavily nerfed

[burnt osprey]

And other popular servers have not taken out terrain turrets either

[burnt osprey]

I’d prefer it to be available even if nerfed

[tall dune]

it’s also do you just want elite to follow what other servers do

[burnt osprey]

And instead of removing terrain turrets what they should have removed where the rathole cave entrances

[tall dune]

it is not the leading unofficial server by just following the lead of others

[tall dune]

bro do you play this game rn?

terrain turrets won’t be game breaking change but it’ll be fun to switch it up

[burnt osprey]

Where do you get these stats? Is there a third party stating that or is it just something repeated here?

[burnt osprey]

Yes I play the game currently. Waiting for five man right now.

[tall dune]

load up the good old battlemetrics and look yourself brick

[burnt osprey]

Ad hominem, you are low IQ.

[tall dune]

i guarantee i have a higher iq then you but that is irrelevant to the conversation or point

if you have to default to that it means your argument is flawed

did you play ASE?

[burnt osprey]

You are the one calling me a brick with your ad hominem attacks. Seems very low IQ to me.

[burnt osprey]

Only vanilla.

[tall dune]

vanilla pve?

[burnt osprey]

Vanilla PvP.

I was on console back in ase

[tall dune]

based on your discord account you didn’t play much and none before gen meta

[burnt osprey]

Yes because it was on PlayStation and my discord was not linked to it.

On pc most of my experience has been asa

[tall dune]

idk how you can comment on terrain turrets etc without any knowledge of a game without them

[graceful wedge]

Hi! To avoid meshed turrets, make sure that none of your turrets shoot through the terrain. It is YOUR RESPONSIBILITY that none of your turrets shoot through the mesh.
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[tall dune]

or metas against them without them

[burnt osprey]

On ase pvp vanilla we did not have terrain turrets

[tall dune]

i’ve played console ase before and it’s a completely different game in terms of metas and shit tho

pyros don’t need to be in the game without terrain turrets

and shouldn’t be a part of pvp

i own it and use them every opportunity i have on 1x but do not think they should be here

more flame especially aoe flame shouldn’t be added

[mint warren]

Actually have been playing else where recently and have 0 problem dealing with them

[tall dune]

i’m against fire wyvern as they are rn as well

[burnt osprey]

I just played in another server as well and had no problems with them or terrain turrets.

[tall dune]

if you add tek canteen i’m fine with them but as is they are just another flame bob item

terrain turret change is to encourage online raiding and change up metas which i like a lot

[burnt osprey]

It will only encourage offline even more since now it will be easy to offline someone super quick with a racer build

[mint warren]

A good amount of spots will be no different without terrain turrets tbh

[tall dune]

if you know how to build it’s easy to not get racered

[burnt osprey]

Sure me and my tribe might have no problem but I’m not thinking about myself

[tall dune]

racers are also nerfed with building on them on elite

they are easy to counter there’s no reason to plan for them

[burnt osprey]

Unless you’re being offline

[burnt osprey]

I think they will come back eventually tbh

[tall dune]

it’s easy to counter offline too its just using your brain to build

[burnt osprey]

Then use that same logic for pyromanes

[tall dune]

flame effects don’t have a counter until gen2

there’s a reason flamethrowers are disabled

[burnt osprey]

I’m sure tek canteens can be added by mod

[tall dune]

and i’m saying i’d be fine with pyros if tek canteens were added

but i don’t support them being re added without any counter

because it’s just another aids thing in open world pvp

[burnt osprey]

We can agree to disagree

[ruby latch]

that's a good thing, you want them to be forced to soak or destroy turrets a few at a time it takes ages longer offline assuming you have ammo

[hushed depot]

There’s extinguisher grenades now that shut all that down, and pyros are a flame counter in them selves, you get flamed then you just activate your pyro

[tall dune]

but even having to play like that is just way more boring

like id rather get a diff type of pvp on elite than i get from playing 1x

where i can actually pull out a fab without getting flamed instantly

[sour schooner]

^

[slim vapor]

its planned to go forward if successful

[shrewd surge]

Literally nobody wants them NOBODY N O B O D Y WANTS THEM

Every YouTuber like every body i ran into dose not want them, YouTubers that plays the game as a job says "why did the devs put this in the game" i mean it ruined abb when it came out there just not it like God hopefully your trolling

[burnt osprey]

Just because you use caps does not mean you are likely to be heard more. The word nobody implies that 0 people want it but as you can see by this thread some people do want it. Not everyone is like you that follows what YouTubers or influencers say, some of us can think for ourselves. Besides other servers like ims are able to have them with no problem. Some people paid for it and want them on and they have been nerfed so they are easy to deal with. Cope harder.

[shrewd surge]

Not the point and I'm not following what influences say what so ever but alright 😂

[shrewd surge]

And dude like ims is a pvp cluster basically fiber craft with 500 ping on it like God you are serious

All i hear from your arguments are you putting words in my mouth and say cope like dude wtf 😂

[burnt osprey]

go cry in a corner

does not refute my argument that people paid for it, they want it and its nerfed and other servers are able to have it no problem.

[shrewd surge]

Im crying all right

[shrewd surge]

I mean i paid for it because I could not fight some one with out it like duh every fight picked let me pop a flaming cat of my shoulder the run around for 30mins straight

[burnt osprey]

some people paid for it and want it in the game.

[shrewd surge]

All im saying is i dont want to pick some then all they got to do is pop a flaming cat of there shoulder theh try to pick them for 30mins and why it take so long to pick them is because they jump twenty feet in the air like there a horrible thing that shouldn't even been a thing to pay for or added to the game

[burnt osprey]

that your opinion, but the devs disagree with you and people who want it also disagree

[shrewd surge]

How you know what the devs want

[burnt osprey]

they created it and added it.

[shrewd surge]

That dont say allot but I can say is that there is more people that can agree with me out of this little suggestion

[burnt osprey]

seems pretty divided so far, 11 for and 10 against.

[shrewd surge]

55 out 45 is alot i guess there are only 21 people that agreed and disagree withe the post

[burnt osprey]

i know some people might not like it but others will. and besides hes nerfed in this server so adding him would not be a problem

they are pretty easy to deal with after the nerf they got

[shrewd surge]

I mean idc if it get added back ima still play and dominate

[burnt osprey]

thats the spirit bruh

[sour schooner]

As a desperate blatant money grab😂😂😂

[burnt osprey]

both Studio Wildcard and Snail Games rely on money to subsist. Thats the way the economy works.

[sour schooner]

You cannot be a real human

Everyone and everything relies on money to exist

The pyromane pack is literally a paid dlc for access to ONE dino

It was a pay to win money grab

Quite literally one of the shittiest moves game devs can make

[burnt osprey]

Still not refuting anything. you are making my point. they need money and they will do whatever is neccesary for money. its not pay to win so stop making shit up, on top of that he alreasy got nerfed in this server and it would not hurt to add him back.

stop crying

[sour schooner]

Pyromanes were quite literally as pay to win as it got

Did u play abb release on official/smalls??

[burnt osprey]

just because some people think its pay to win does not make it pay to win.

people have opinions all the time, that does not make them fact.

[sour schooner]

Pyromanes were quite literally as pay to win as it got

If you had a pyromane you won

If you didnt you lost

It wasn’t subjective

If youd played abb release youd know

[burnt osprey]

None of that is relevant to this suggestion since they where nerfed and are pretty easy to deal with here on Elite Ark

[shrewd surge]

They ruined abb

[sour schooner]

This guy gets it

[sour schooner]

Is was relevant to the point u made

[north temple]

pyro + zepplin ruined abb. Keep pyros out of ark

[sour schooner]

Regardless. Pyromanes are a LOW skill. High reward. High survivability tame. They ruin pvp. Take 0 mechanical ability or knowledge to use. And are cringe.

They are pay walled which isnt fair on those who dont have the dlc/arent willing to pay for it.

Low skill/high reward mechanics in ANY GAME ruin pvp

Pvp should reward skill/knowledge which is generally the better player thats how pvp games work

[burnt osprey]

this is not communism, it aint fair to those that paid and they have the merit since they where willing to pay for it.Go play Call of duty or Leaggue of legends if you want to be rewarded.

[burnt osprey]

If people paid for it they paid for it to be able to use it, if those that are unwilling to pay for it dont get it thats their problem. why should the ones that paid for it not get to use it because some people are unwilling to get it.

[sour schooner]

what the fuck are you on about capitalism

its very fair if u want to use it go fuck off somewhere where they are enabled

[sour schooner]

i have played them

[sour schooner]

did you pay eliteark to use them?? no? then its not elitearks issue

[burnt osprey]

I paid the creators of the game to use it, and i want it in game and i am not the only one that feels this way on this server, maybe if you dont want it it should be you the one who should fuck off. it is nerfed and they are not hard to deal with, there is no reason why they should not be part of the game. Ims has them and they get a very good pop, the pyromane is enjoyable to use and there is no reason as to why elite cannot do the same, just because you cry loud does not mean people will listen to you more.

[burnt osprey]

and byt the way i invest more than 100$ per wipe on every server i play per wipe,, so yes i have invested here and plan to invest more when 5man comes out. so zip it.

[sour schooner]

thats not what i asked at all u moron

idgaf if u pay 1k per wipe

this isnt some fucking corrupt government u think buying packages entitles u to make more decisions about balancing??

[burnt osprey]

the whole world is corrupt including you and me buddy. get a relity check, you sound delusional.

[burnt osprey]

nope i think im entitled to make my opinion known on this suggestion as everyone else does.stop crying.

i can clearly see why they gave you the keyboard warrior role, you cry so much and so loud.

[sour schooner]

holy shit its a fucking ark server bro what are u on about

ronnie isnt gonna balance the game based off of how people who pay for packages want it to be only

[sour schooner]

gimp its a role everyone used to get for being lvl 20 in the discord

[burnt osprey]

nobody said that but you. this is a suggestion sector of the server and im not the only one suggesting that they should bring the pyromane nback. stop crying

sound like a baby

[burnt osprey]

that was a response to you bringing money into the conversation after i stated i paid for the pyromane

be smarter man

literally sound like youre on the spectrum

[sour schooner]

you are spasticated mate

[burnt osprey]

not as much as you.

[tall dune]

it’s pointless talking to this guy he has only ever played asa and clearly uses nothing but flame items and dino’s while he tries personal attacks to get his point across

[burnt osprey]

your name is flame. its pointless talking to you.

[sour schooner]

Im aware how blatantly obvious it is that hes shit

95% of the suggestions he supports are for noob changes that help shitters

He wants ronnie to hold his hand because hes being dominated by any average andy

[burnt osprey]

LMAO you wish. i support whats good for the majority of people not whats good for me, shut up.

[burnt osprey]

on the other hand all you support are changes that will benefit you only since you consider yourself so skilled in the game. cope harder

[burnt osprey]

sure on this 5man we can prove whos shit, just drop your coords as soon as youre in and ill drop mine.

[sour schooner]

No you dont i support whats good for the majority if people not whats good for me

We can keep going in circles if u want

[burnt osprey]

sure, thats why everything you say is shitting on average players who by the way are the majority

[sour schooner]

Not average players

Shit players.

And im not shitting on them. You dont balance a game so the shittest of players can kill the best players…

[burnt osprey]

shit players are average players, the average player is a bob.

[sour schooner]

No average players are average players

Shit players are the worst players. Like you

[burnt osprey]

sure lol, im shit. drop your coords. ill be in day 1

[sour schooner]

The most mechanically ungifted of players. And the most knowledge deprived. Those are the shit players

[sour schooner]

Not playing for a multitude of reasond

Playing dune awakening on the 5th

[burnt osprey]

well enjoy. i guess you wont get a chance to prove how shit i am.

[sour schooner]

And also dont feel like investing my time into a cluster when 2 other clusters will wipe withing 12 days of it launching

[sour schooner]

Dont need to

[burnt osprey]

you dont need to join the other clusters, join 5 man

[sour schooner]

5man this season will have probably The worst pop

Solos wiping one week after

[burnt osprey]

why is that your opinion?

[sour schooner]

Then 3 man is wiping Not even 2 weeks after

As i said 2 other clusters wipe within 12 days of it

Dune awakening preorder launches on the 5th and normal version on the 10th

All of that is just taking pop from 5man which always gets the wordt wipe dates

[burnt osprey]

what would you suggest?

[sour schooner]

Not consistently wipe 5man first then other clusters shortly afterwards

Also avoid the release week of one of the most pre ordered open world survival games in years

[burnt osprey]

ive never played dune, it looks cool.

[sour schooner]

Everytime its 5man wiping first then other clusters soon after

3man lt has the best date of the 3

[burnt osprey]

i think they took too long to wipe. they used to wipe servers more often before and as soon as it was dead a wipe was announced, it seems like that is not the practice anymore

[tall dune]

thats just entirely the opposite of what you want for a good long wipe

elite is not 2 week wipe servers on anything but 100x for a reason you can go play 100x if thats what you want

[burnt osprey]

stop riding me dude, i was not even talking to you.

[rancid anvil]

Yeah NGL this wipe schedule around Rag release is atrocious.

[slim vapor]

It’s kinda hard

Wildcard is never on time

Think about how difficult it is to schedule something when you don’t know when it’s gonna be lol

[sour schooner]

The scheduling is still awful rn completely ignoring anything wc related

Even if u just look at eliteark alone

3 clusters within 12 days??

That’s horrible for the first cluster

[slim vapor]

Players want content and we are trying to provide rag to all the clusters

[sour schooner]

I get that but why is it always 5man that suffers

[slim vapor]

And no matter how you spin it most players only play fresh wipe and get raided in the first few days and wait for the next wipe

Until the player base mentality changes we have to provide what is requested of us

Solo players will say when’s wipe for a month instead of just playing solo duo

Duos will say when’s wipe instead of playing 3 man

And so on and so forth

[sour schooner]

And as much as its “proving new content on release” only 3man is actually dropping with rag

[slim vapor]

But 5man is dropping with unreal engine 5.5 update and close enough to rag to add beginners

[sour schooner]

5.5 update is quite literally a glorified performance uodate

[slim vapor]

Also I don’t think everyone understands that all mods have been ceased development since may 20th

The engine update today could genuinely make the game unplayable

And break all modded structures

How do we schedule something around that?

[sour schooner]

Thats completely unrelated though

[slim vapor]

It’s not unrelated to scheduling at all

[sour schooner]

3 clusters wiping within 12 days of each other isn’t relevant to mod issues

[slim vapor]

The reason 5 man didn’t launch last week was for this exact reason

Like THIs reason

So it’s relevant

[sour schooner]

If anything youd rather wait longer to avoid more clusters suffering mod issues

[slim vapor]

Brother

[sour schooner]

And most likely 100x will wipe also

[graceful wedge]

Check the top voice channels or https://discord.com/channels/235406555934228480/1328474503315062854

Verified✓

[slim vapor]

The update was supposed to be Monday

Which would give us 4 days

Instead of launching it last week

And the update be on Monday

And the mods break 3 days into wipe

[sour schooner]

Thats entirely reasonable concern

3 clusters in 12 days possibly 4 if its 100x also is wild regardless

I know im most definitely not gonna play cuz thats such a waste of time

If one cluster has to suffer it should be changed up like not always 5 man being followed by wipes straight away

[slim vapor]

Well, best I can hope for is a large increase in Player count so we can provide players to all clusters

I will do my best on events for 5man

[sour schooner]

Only hope for that is rag tho realistically

[slim vapor]

Yes

[sour schooner]

Which by the time that comes out there will probably be 4 new clusters out😂😂 5man will have 5 pop per map

That shit aint coming on the 18th ill tell u that for free

[slim vapor]

100x is wiping yes

On June 13th

It’s wipe cycle is 2-3 weeks

[sour schooner]

Its been changed 😭😭

So confirmed 4 clusters in 2 weeks

You can see from a players perspective how extremely off putting that is?

Especially as a player who only would consider playing the cluster that wipes first out of the 4

[slim vapor]

I just hold out hope this won’t be an issue once rag releases

I really wish they would just discontinue ase

[sour schooner]

Ase dlc coming out this month

will pop more than rag does

[slim vapor]

Game sucks

[fallen carbon]

if u buy that dlc u are stupid

[sour schooner]

im not

but it will pop more than rag does

ase literally sitting at double the population of asa rn

and it has no official servers

[fallen carbon]

well asa i feel is more popular on console

[sour schooner]

i dont think that means much tbh

ase still clears in terms of overall player count

dont think its close

[odd harness]

Tbf according to battle metrics asa on top

But how true that is idk

[burnt osprey]

good shit pulling out the stats

[fallen carbon]

i dont how accurate this but

i think we not unban pryomanes

[burnt osprey]

They are nerfed

[fallen carbon]

They may be nerfed but they still cost money

[sour schooner]

according to steam there is 27406 on ase rn

and thats steam alone

[burnt osprey]

They are nerfed not hard to deal with and the people that paid for it want to use it, if you don’t that’s fine but the ones that paid should at least get to use him even nerfed

If you feel at a disadvantage byu him

[feral kindle]

u cry too much abt the pyros

[burnt osprey]

What can I say. I love crying.

[tall dune]

it’s true but

pve is bigger than pvp

[tall dune]

this is kinda how every server has to operate now

[remote bobcat]

.3flame has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[sour schooner]

so not really?

especially not on ASA

[tall dune]

i don’t think it should be like that and i think elite should make an effort to not make it like that

but the large majority of ASE/ASA unofficials do

[onyx dock]

yeah keep them banned