Omni Tool Poll

[distant pond]

#🐲ark-polls message

I feel like this is going to make soaking so easy now if bullets have to be loaded manually.

[fiery tangle]

It's only at a cool down

Being able to omni tool arb to turrets is dumb if it's mid raid

You talk about not wanting people to offline so much this is one thing that might help that tbh, because no one is going to online someone who sits with their 7 dedis of arb pushing buttons for 12hours

[distant pond]

Get rid of the composite crafters then and use CS autocrafter and make it cost a decent amount of ele

[fiery tangle]

It wouldn't change it either tbh cans till craft dedis of arb with multiple replicators

Still doesn't change the fact that omnitool mid raid is to op

Needs the cool down function. If someone soaking get dps out there and push them back

[distant pond]

I was under the assumption the cooldown was more like you had x seconds to transfer bullets and then couldnt anymore

I think tps should have a cooldown too bc once you have tps.. tping out to get resources is super easyu

[elfin shell]

I feel it should be way longer than just 1 minute, 5 minute timer is way better than 1

[manic snow]

Make is 10 honestly, these kids need to learn to defend and not play with turret settings while ammo is crafting

[warped ridge]

Why are you even soaking bullets…….

[clear rivet]

what

[warped ridge]

Most times u suicide and break turrets so they can’t fill

[fiery tangle]

Depends on the base really and the location of turrets.

Sometimes you have to soak

[distant pond]

Yeah but to be fair with how stegos are and how close you can build to enemy structures with everyone building in caves bc world bases arent meta, it can be difficult defending. Especially if people are coming from pre genesis ASE like most of my tribe did.

Stegos not being pickable is really dumb imo but so was the net gun. Devs just dont care to balance for pvp

[polar elm]

you all just need to get some jobs and worry about making money rather than soaking a base for hours

[warped ridge]

I don’t soak for hours and got a life 😂

[polar elm]

liar

[warped ridge]

Facts I work full time 😂

[polar elm]

work more

sissy boy

[fiery tangle]

Wyvern, rhinio buh bye stego.

Making stegos pickable by pts n shit would be dumb af. 😅 already a pain to use stegos outside of caves (racer op)

[distant pond]

lol not if they have their fob pushed up to your entrance lol

[fiery tangle]

I'm talking towers dawg, outside defence

[distant pond]

ok? I have had a tribe ramp up and ceiling right next to our shit with turrets on it so the wyverns got blasted when they went to grab the stego

[fiery tangle]

Making stegos pickable by taking rider off be dumb, that's what wyverns, karkinos, rhinios, are for

[fiery tangle]

I have to. You counter on drop their ling or let them keep soaking

[distant pond]

drop their ling?

english?

[fiery tangle]

That's what that structure deal is called. Ling/fortnight which ever

[distant pond]

Never heard it call that. But yeah they arent end all be all to stegos. Before they changed stego was the good era of ark.

Honestly before they changed turret targetting. Miss my carbo soaking

[warped ridge]

No other work to be done 😂 I get 60hours a week

[polar elm]

lets see a pay stub liar

[warped ridge]

Not sending public life info brother

[tiny gate]

agreed

[tiny gate]

bro just wants to be unraidable

how do u have fun lmao

[distant pond]

Did you even play ase?

[tiny gate]

https://tenor.com/view/unmute-gif-22848570

[distant pond]

fortniting is a stupid raid mechanic imo

makes dealing with stegos with wyverns or rhynios very difficult

but clearly youre too stuck in the early raiding, easy raiding mechanics

[tiny gate]

https://tenor.com/view/squidward-chad-speech-bubble-spongebob-cosplay-gif-25566365

[fiery tangle]

Good hp rhynio, bug bye stego

I don't see how pts would be any easier tbh.

[distant pond]

Their hitbox is smaller so being over the stego on a pt vs a rhynio the pt could potentially not be shot

[fiery tangle]

Nah rhynio getting hit is not an issue cuz.

Good saddle and high hp things don't die that easy.

[distant pond]

they do if u die off of it from tek turrets

[fiery tangle]

Well either way omni tool mid raid glad they put a cool down on it

[distant pond]

apparently it doesnt work properly

[fiery tangle]

Does anything ever properly work 😅

[distant pond]

depends on the topic loool

but tbf its not hard to keep a stego in soaking range especially on cave bases

[fiery tangle]

No it's not

That's why you just gotta hand load if your doing it that way

[distant pond]

lol which makes it incredible easy to raid

[fiery tangle]

Dawg it does not make it easy to raid 🤣

Hand loading has always been an ark thing on defence🤣

[distant pond]

official maybe

but again this isnt official

nor should it be made to be more similar

[fiery tangle]

Even old ark ase, everything before was handholding

Stop wanting to be a sit in base and omnitool dedis of arb. Lol. Get out and defend the cave push back. Swear you seem more and more pve by the second 🤣

[manic snow]

Exceed I’m convinced you have never raided on elite ark

You can spend an hour soaking a tower for the to craft in 7 mins what you soaked

There is a reason everyone asked for the no ammo refilling feature and your getting so many nos on this brother

With the cs lab ammo is basically free

So being able to refill 2 hours of soaking in 10 mins of crafting is annoying

[distant pond]

Lol whatever helps you sleep at night.

[manic snow]

The server is about raiding and pvping, if you want to be unraidable we offer pve servers

And the pve servers have a good community of people trying to improve them

[distant pond]

Carnage no one cares for your opinion 🙂

[fiery tangle]

Obviously no one cares about the pve bobs suggestions 🤣

[manic snow]

So this guy made a suggestion that receives opinions

Gets roasted

And acts like a 12 year old

Interesting strategy definitely gonna get your suggestion pushed through

[fiery tangle]

The omni tool pull was to op. Same as using the repair gun to infa repair forcefield.

[distant pond]

If I recall all you do is act 12 in game? hypocritical of you mate

[manic snow]

How exactly?

Cause all we do is make fun of people who think we’re cheating really

[distant pond]

but for both yalls information, I am not arguing against it but as I said, I was under the wrong impression of what the poll was for.

[manic snow]

But we should take this elsewhere if you want to continue #🧂ark-salt

[distant pond]

Didnt really get roasted but if you think any comment was worthy to be called a roast then youve never seen a real roast. But its the fact the community has no constructive criticism. Its just bunch of toxic bobs who likes pushing people off the server and killing pop as early as possible. As I have mentioned several times before.. population dropping 70% by the end of the first week is atrocious

But gg mate

[manic snow]

Center 2 has 64 pop today at peak

Good numbers though

[tiny gate]

as someone who doesnt like carnage

[distant pond]

64?

[tiny gate]

carnage is speaking facts

[manic snow]

😦

[tiny gate]

i mean uh.... someone who likes carnage a lot

totally

[distant pond]

64?

[manic snow]

Grizz let’s settle the beef

[tiny gate]

what beef

[manic snow]

Exactly

Beef gone

[tiny gate]

https://tenor.com/view/steak-food-beef-juicy-foodporn-gif-1026664826648021830

[manic snow]

Vestries

Besties!

[elfin shell]

Leave this for the suggestion topic otherwise spanks

[manic snow]

Have you ever considered it’s because people feel they can’t do anything anymore because people sit in there base with krab at the front door and Omni tool ammo?

[distant pond]

hell center3 only has 25 players.. normally the repopulating beginner servers stay at least 70% for a few days

I think thats lower on the list than logging in to being wiped. or raided 5+ times day 1-2

[manic snow]

The server had a problem at the start which caused pop to disappear

[tiny gate]

carnage he doesnt get that most people dont have fun when the whole server sits in their bases the whole wipe

[manic snow]

I know that’s what I’m trying to say to him, teams like me and grizz want to constantly raid and pvp not sit in base breeding, people being able to out craft our soaking ability with the cs lab and then insta filling turrets makes it impossible for us to raid

[tiny gate]

was lowkey hyped for vaults and raid bases but they didnt work 😦

[distant pond]

Well, im more for a balance. Raid hungry people is what ends up killing the server. If you run everyone off, then there is no server lol

[tiny gate]

bro its pvp

[manic snow]

You can rebuild after getting raided

[distant pond]

is that what happened? sadge

[tiny gate]

people play to raid

[manic snow]

Do you know how much me and grizz would pay to get onlined

[tiny gate]

literally

[manic snow]

Elite ark offers pve after getting wiped to rebuild

[tiny gate]

im making a new suggestion rq go look

[manic snow]

I say make one that makes the fill tool 5 mins grizz

[distant pond]

Not within the first 36 when its most important imo

[manic snow]

And nerfs this new orp it’s insane

[tiny gate]

literally what i just did 😂

[manic snow]

If your getting wiped in the first 36 that’s a progression issue

Not a qol tool not filling ammo issue

[distant pond]

sure is but it also kills pop the quickest

[tiny gate]

change 150 turrets to 100
remove teslas
change omni raid timer to 5 min
nerf new orp

[manic snow]

It’s a PvP server though, what your suggesting lessons raiding and PvP

[distant pond]

LOL

[tiny gate]

exceed people learn to not get raided by getting raided

[elfin shell]

Yup

[distant pond]

how do they learn if theyre offline

[tiny gate]

https://tenor.com/view/regular-show-mordecai-rigby-hmm-plan-gif-4754716

[distant pond]

but you want to make orp weaker

make it make sense for me

[manic snow]

You do realize orp weaker affects us too right

It’s a raid and pvp server

[tiny gate]

#1318024625829052436

[manic snow]

If you can only raid 5 hours a day when they are online because of 6x turret damage then that kills pop more

[distant pond]

ORP is supposed to limit being raided offline.. not just make it a slight nuisance

[manic snow]

It’s not slight

[tiny gate]

there is orp yk

[manic snow]

A 52 hp stego dies in seconds to a 10 turret wall

I’m not saying remove

But anything more than 2x turret damage is crazy

[distant pond]

with max saddle, imprint, mate boost and yuty? I dont think so

[tiny gate]

if you build your defenses right, it should take enough time for you to log on to defend even with a nerfed orp

unless your tryna log 12+ hours

[distant pond]

must be nice not to have to work

[tiny gate]

i have a job and go to class

and still have time to put carnage on his ass

i mean.... uh.... play the game.... not do that to carnage

[distant pond]

lol but claim you have enough time to get online and defend? you mean to tell me you think a good base can be undefended for 8 hours to sleep, 8 hours to work, 2 hours of classes? thats a joke and a half

If it takes anyone 18 hours to raid a base offline then they dont know how to raid

[fiery tangle]

Go raid a snow north in less time 🤣

A good base( an actually really good build) can't take days to raid between tribes logging on and etc.

[distant pond]

Im not talking them logging on. Fully offline, does not take almost a full day. Then youre doing something wrong.

[tiny gate]

dont sleep for 8 hrs

[distant pond]

loool

[tiny gate]

and also thats what tribemates are for

[manic snow]

I have full time college 18 credit hours and still 8-0 grizz rn

[tiny gate]

and i got classes for 6 hrs : (

[tiny gate]

bruh

[manic snow]

Also it’s 5 man, where the mates at bruh

[distant pond]

lol let me go recruit a bunch 16 yr olds who dont go to school lmao

[tiny gate]

exactly

now u get it

[distant pond]

thats the most idiotic logic process ever holy

[manic snow]

I mean

Why are you on 5man

If your don’t have a tribe

We have other servers

[distant pond]

lol im shove all 300 wyverns up your ass carnage

suggest other servers again

[manic snow]

I got insided so not this wipe chat but

[tiny gate]

with the way orp is and how easy it is to make ammo it can def take a full day to offline certain spots where u have no other option but to soak

[manic snow]

These changes me and grizz propose will increase server pop

And most people feel the same way as us

[distant pond]

lol just cannon everything. 5 people 2 cannons easy 2 hours done

[tiny gate]

play solo only... 👍

[manic snow]

If people are constantly getting the adrenaline of getting onlined

[tiny gate]

https://tenor.com/view/regular-show-mordecai-rigby-hmm-plan-gif-4754716

[manic snow]

They will seek it more

And rebuild more

Instead of just quiting and waiting for next wipe

[distant pond]

nah itll kill the server faster. Sure early wipe will be larger but pop will die way faster bc itll be easier to raid

they will not rebuild more

the biggest cause of people quitting is being offlined.

i will put 100 on that

[tiny gate]

if you look at ase servers (i cant name them or i get a mute 😭 ) theres signifcantly more pop and content being made on them as raiding and pvp is more common and possible

[distant pond]

not bc theyre bored

[manic snow]

Most people disagree,Hence why the tool was added non the first place

[distant pond]

if theyre bored within a week they need to go play 1000x

I have mentioned my opinions on ASE but apparently no one played unofficial ase bc the most popular servers before asa were more protecting of offline raiding. Literally the leading cause of people quitting. You cannot say im wrong

[tiny gate]

my tribe quit bc we got bored

[distant pond]

lol

[tiny gate]

i can say your wrong because i can

https://tenor.com/view/incident-gif-2747499635347300991

[distant pond]

lol nah

[manic snow]

Pretty much the same, and this has been the case each wipe with me and grizzes teams, we pvp and raid until people just start hiding in caves with krabs

[fiery tangle]

Idk all the popular servers (wipe servers) I've ever played actually had zero orp😅

[tiny gate]

https://tenor.com/view/regular-show-mordecai-rigby-hmm-plan-gif-4754716

[manic snow]

They don’t and if they do it’s very limited idk what he’s talking about

[fiery tangle]

Yeah, lol

[tiny gate]

look at that, no orp, good pop, good content

[fiery tangle]

Yup

[tiny gate]

we aint saying remove orp or these other features necessarily, just ner and make it possible to raid

[distant pond]

Back before the heavy turrets change, it was incredibly popular. You cannot compare current ASE to pre Genesis ASE

[fiery tangle]

Pre gen don't matter no more tho 🤣

[manic snow]

Grizz I deleted that u know u can’t say that shit

Smh

[tiny gate]

bruh

[distant pond]

Sure it does.. balance the game similar to pre Gen, easy.

[tiny gate]

but its for improvement of this server

[fiery tangle]

Dawg 🤣

[tiny gate]

: (

[manic snow]

I’ll get in trouble if I don’t tell you that you can’t say it

[manic snow]

We aren’t playing the same game not even close

Have you seen the difference in raiding

And you seem to forget a clear thing that is different

TERRAIN turrets

[fiery tangle]

The true raid stopper

[manic snow]

When’s the last time you tried to soak a survivor only tek on the ceiling !

[fiery tangle]

Ceiling player only turrets 💀💀

[manic snow]

With orp

[tiny gate]

what is bro yappin about

[distant pond]

lol

[cloud ruin]

Got bored cuz everyone hides in caves no one leaves caves no one fobs caves. Caves ruin ark lmao

[tiny gate]

i wouldnt say caves ruin ark, just elite ark setting ruin ark

[cloud ruin]

I would say the settings really snowballed into a weird mess. Wouldn’t say ruined tho

Caves need to be severely nerfed no questions asked

[distant pond]

^

Cave/Rathole meta is stupid. Bring back the mega open world base meta.

Best meta of ark

[fiery tangle]

It won't ever come back.

U else they get rid of tp. But then this server would have 0 pop

[distant pond]

You keep saying that but wont know unless we try it tbh

[ember cave]

Go play conquest

No caves or ratholes allowed

[distant pond]

Lol I'm not saying no caves or ratholes but as many said it's not fun with everyone in them sooo

[ember cave]

Its been like that for years now, with extinction being added it wont change

[cloud ruin]

Obv u never played conquest. Shits more corrupt then smalls lmao

[ember cave]

what does that have to do with my reply?

he wants open world bases and thats possible on conquest

[cloud ruin]

No it’s not. Like I said obviously you haven’t played it.

[static jolt]

no shit,,,, thats how the game is supposed to be

[distant pond]

games supposed to be easy??? lmao

[static jolt]

its way easier to defend???? HUH

if you're getting online wiped.... thats just a skill issue

[distant pond]

Depends on the period of wipe. But mostly skill issue, yes.

[static jolt]

so then wtf

r u arguing about

[static jolt]

you mean anytime after 2 hrs into wipe???

if you dont have at least 4 heavies by hour 2 you're shit

and 4 heavies is all you need to defend a starter base

[distant pond]

lol 12 hours or so after wipe. You can have 20 heavies by 2 hours and doesnt matter lol

[ember cave]

how can you not defend 20 heavies?

[static jolt]

dont tell me you be getting wiped with 20 heavies

[ember cave]

are they all empty?

[distant pond]

Nah tribe isnt a bunch of 16 yr olds who do nothing but sit on a video game every second lmao

[static jolt]

my whole tribe has jobs and only on like 3 hrs a day and we still dont get wiped

so like

[distant pond]

But anyways if you read any of my comments, I stated i was under the wrong impression of the poll in the first place. But instead you wanted to attack someone for their opinion. I bet you supported harris

uh i definitely see your tribe talking more than 3 hrs a day

[static jolt]

your opinion was literally wrong

every argument you have is wrong xD

like bro do you even play the pvp servers?

[distant pond]

whats pvp?

lol

[static jolt]

you didnt understand the poll, you didnt understand how the laboratory works, you dont understand how wyv milk works. like bro why are you in the suggestions channel

[distant pond]

Not wrong if all you anti difficulty bobs can say is "you're wrong". Like I said here https://ptb.discord.com/channels/235406555934228480/1318024625829052436 I am open to trying other settings but if yall refuse to try anything other than making it easier to raid not only early wipe but all wipe then yall just some bobs who want to kill wipes.

Lol when did I not understand how lab works?

daft or daft?

[static jolt]

bro... do you not understand how strong the building meta is??? ratholes are meta asf. with 1x in combination with OP teslas, with omni tools constantly refilling infinite ammo from the laboratory and tek forge.... like wtf are ppl supposed to do?

[ember cave]

people dont seem to realise this, almost every single one of them lives in a rathole for the whole wipe and doesnt do shit

[distant pond]

Unfortunately you cant do much else with how the server settings are set up.

[static jolt]

youre an actual idiot

[ember cave]

explain to me why you couldnt live in a cave?

[cloud ruin]

but even living in caves it just as bad as ratholes anymore. its the same thing ppl go in and never come out lmao

[ember cave]

you cant tell me that ratholes are the same as a cave, like okay its not easy to raid alot of caves but these ratholes are fknig nuts

[distant pond]

huh? you cant do much else BUT live in a cave/rathole???

[cloud ruin]

ya there is some ratholes that are unraidable yes. every cave is raidable just some take days to do even offline. i meant in terms of pvp and action ppl be hiding and neever come out

[ember cave]

yh i'll agree on that

[cloud ruin]

i mean shit even i do it but i want it to change its just like pointless rn with how off the settings and everything is

theres no pvp. sure i can fob on someone but im gonna be soaking for days for loot i dont need

its like a fibercraft after first couple days. loot means literal nothing

[distant pond]

I think 15x should be slowed down not sped up

[ember cave]

i've seen alot of suggestions that could fix alot of these issues but for some reason no one wants it

i dont get it, seems like they all just want pve

[cloud ruin]

idk if they want pve or if they just wanna raid stone 2x2 day 1 and not pllay again

[distant pond]

^

3man limited tek people were running around blowing every stone starter base day 2. Like for why

literally just to kill pop

[cloud ruin]

im just holding on hoping ext will atleast gimme pve action doing drops lmao since bosses are pointless at this point to

[ember cave]

well i like the bosses atm since its the only way to get 2k dura flak 😅

[distant pond]

Anyways for the toxic nellys, the point of this suggestion was because initially, I thought the cooldown meant that after the duration you could not load bullets with omni until after they left the pvp zone.

[distant pond]

Which suggestions?

[ember cave]

nerfing ways to get bps, turret cap to 100 turrets instead of 150 ( atleast for lower tribe server i have no opinion for this on 5 man since i dont really play it), change stack size on arb to vanilla

probably some more but these are the important ones to me

and the omni tool cooldown of course but they did listen to that

[distant pond]

I think turret count on smaller tribes is good but i dont think so for larger tribe servers. I personally would rather see decrease in turret dmg and increase in turret limit but thats mostly for bringing back open world bases

Stack size on ARB would be good

Not sure if the custom stack size mod they have allow you to set specific stack sizes tho

or if its hard coded

[ember cave]

would be weird if it didnt

[distant pond]

lol some mod developers are weird and dont add settings for some things

I think reducing the craft speed on comp crafter and ammo crafter would help a bit

[ember cave]

Rather remove automatically crafting ammo

[distant pond]

I would agree but its more of a QOL, so if it can be .25x the speed of manual crafting I think it would be a good middle ground.

[cloud ruin]

bring back arb blueprints

[distant pond]

lol true

[warped ridge]

Would you prefer ammo box instead of the pulling arb. Remember clock speeds up the crafting aswell

[distant pond]

Clock doesnt speed up arkomatic

But ammo box might be nice alternative.

[warped ridge]

Ammo box is great idk why they removed from the 3man if u can add combat tag to it

So it doesn’t fill so often while being raided

[distant pond]

yeah. the duration and cooldown may need to tested a few times to get it right

[warped ridge]

I believe 5 mins for it to fill would be suffice

[distant pond]

Wasnt there a raid cooldown. Dont remember how it worked completely. Barely played when they came out.

[warped ridge]

There was a cooldown before it would fill turrets again but inventory size limited

It would fill every min but people have issues with raiding bases

They just soak when there are ways to break turrets and over cap walls

[distant pond]

Yeah there are. Theres more you can do than just walk stegos. hell suicide bomb some wyverns into any towers with a stego ez.
But yeah 5 mins to fill everything then 30 second cooldown before filling again I think should be fine. They will be able to outsoak at that speed

[warped ridge]

They will be able to out soak offline anyways, aslong as inventory is limited some

Like only 100k arb in the box total

[distant pond]

yeah and 75-100 ARB per stack rather than 150

[warped ridge]

100 or 150 is fine

[fiery tangle]

100 no less. Keep it offcial at least for stack sizes.