Nerf flamethrowers/flame damage or add a tek canteen mod

[sacred tundra]

bu mp

[solar forge]

Maybe just don't over level in hp.

Flame does more damage the higher your hp. Outside of that, keep med brews and beer on hand to counter flame bobs.

[sacred tundra]

Already done all of that already

[sacred tundra]

Flame consistently 2 taps as soon as you go over 350 and I know we have beer too but I think most people would want a more fair solution instead of having to pop beer everytime.

[bleak bane]

Fight fire with fire. Carry beer. Confused here. Nerfing every weapon imaginable just because you don’t want to carry beer and have 400 hp is kinda wild.

[sacred tundra]

I have already, that's literally part of why im making the post

Wiping out a entire tribe holding left click and looking around is not fun

I've def killed more people than I've been killed with flamey, mainly bc people never bother bringing beer or counter items

Which leads to the post

It's boring to fight against, boring to fight with

[bleak bane]

So nerf it and make flamethrowers useless?

[sacred tundra]

T_T

i literally gave different solutions to make it not useless but provide better counters

better flamethrower mod makes sure it doesn't 2 tap but it still does good damage

[bleak bane]

Flamethrowers already don’t work when it’s raining or anywhere near water

[sacred tundra]

tek canteen doesn't nerf dmg at all and is overall just a good counter

[sacred tundra]

soooo we're flamethrower dependent

if you're reaching that hard to defend flameys then idk

[bleak bane]

Nope, just think it’s a great foot pvp weapon.

Easy to counter

Easy to avoid

[sacred tundra]

If it's easy to counter or avoid i wouldn't end all these fights im getting into int 7 seconds

lmao

and im not even here saying I want flamethrowers removed or some crazy flame damage nerf

[bleak bane]

Most ppl are pretty poor at PvP. If you run into someone who is decent they will have countermeasures in place. Or a pocket Dino to run you over

Or just bola and blast away

[sacred tundra]

countermeasures (beer and low hp)

no one is mass carrying around wyv milk

[bleak bane]

Or bola. Or pocket Dino

[sacred tundra]

early game pvp people aren't gonna be walking around with pocket dinos lmfao

[earnest oak]

nerf it and make flamethrowers not op?

[sacred tundra]

meanwhile you get a flamey from a gold drop easily

[earnest oak]

just because something isnt op doesnt mean its bad

[sacred tundra]

Plus it's obvious you're just the minority, soooo many people have talked about this before

There's plenty of posts with overwhelming support to do something about it

[sacred tundra]

bro said they're useless once they dont 2 tap people 😭

[bleak bane]

Whew you added a lot of words in there.

[sacred tundra]

:3

overall nerf flamey or add counters ez

ppl can still use it but not 2 tap entire tribes

[bleak bane]

Can 2 tap ppl on a good theri too. How should we nerf that

Or a giga too. Should nerf that too

And overcapped fabis and shotguns

[sacred tundra]

we reaching hard aren't we

[bleak bane]

Just proving a point

[sacred tundra]

sounds more like flamethrower dependent 🤨

[bleak bane]

I am all of the above dependent

[sacred tundra]

well

if you're fighting a theri on foot you're doing something wrong

or giga

[bleak bane]

If you are in someone grill with a flamethrower you are doing something wrong.

[sacred tundra]

boom, entire point is to allow for more foot pvp

discourage people to see someone with a flamey and just run for their life

[bleak bane]

Tek is too easy to achieve for it to ever be foot PvP most of the time

[sacred tundra]

like i said, you get flamethrowers almost instantly

and not everyone progresses as fast as me or you

[bleak bane]

You can be in full tek in 4 hours of a new wipe

[sacred tundra]

^

[bleak bane]

Ppl who are pvping before then, won’t last anyways. You don’t get ahead by pvping early

[sacred tundra]

ok appreciate your thought process on playing

but point still stands lol, majority of the players agree and want something to help people with flameys

If you don't like flamethrowers not 2 tapping, that's your opinion and it's all good

[bleak bane]

I understand your point trust me. I am just trying to get you to understand where the line gets drawn. If you nerf one thing, someone cries about another being OP cause it two taps. It’s a never ending cycle. Eventually you have a pve server cause nothing works.

[sacred tundra]

Well everything else you listed off is more common sense stuff, and nothing anyone would really consider OP. Flamethrowers are the only thing right now that people have been wanting a change for

It also comes down to the state of the game where we're in the period where we have to wait for a while before tek canteens are even added

I don't think anyone is gonna complain about pocketing dinos or overcapped items being OP

[bleak bane]

A comparison for that is adding net gun because stegos are super broken in first 2 hours of a wipe

Net guns aren’t out yet

[sacred tundra]

i don't see many people complaining about stegos early game

there was a debate on it i last saw like almost a year ago lol

but that was ab it, i've never had many problems with it

same with most other playes ik on here

[bleak bane]

Rat hole dweller lol, naw kidding, we must be taking to different types of players

[sacred tundra]

but even then if it was such a issue where people constantly talked about it (which it was when that debate stuff went down) you could see the popular opinion on it

and its a modded server, so they're constantly tweaking it and doing things based off that. For example the vote for using the tool to fill turrets while raiding

people figured that was OP, so they put in countermeasures

or at least are looking into doing it

Flameys, unlike the stego debate have come up time and time again with majority of the people being against the state of them right now

and back to you saying other stuff in the game is op, overcapped shotgun? you need to hit a good bola and know how to get around the shield, overcapped fabi? you need good aim, pocket theri/giga? you need to go out of your way to tame/raise it

flamethrower? get it out of drop and hold the fire button down

[bleak bane]

The ammo doesn’t come out of drops buddy. Nor is it super easy to make. You don’t spawn in and loot one yellow drop and start 2 tapping ppl with a capped flamethrower (which you wouldn’t get from a yellow drop anyways)

[sacred tundra]

the ammo is super easy to make wdym 💀

and if you're already on se it's just that much easier

[bleak bane]

You need oil, hide, cactus sap, and sulfur. Not many people play SE. Nor visit SE in first few hours of a wipe. If they do, it’s typically for some quick silk to make whips.

[sacred tundra]

go to se, kill wyvern or farm sulfur, and hit a few cacti everything else you're already going to have on your own server

[bleak bane]

Then just loot a capped flamethrower out of a yellow drop and just 2 tap whole tribes. It’s that easy!

[sacred tundra]

doesn't even need to be capped, regardless most flames are high dmg from yellow drops

so yeah it p much is that easy

[sacred tundra]

🙂

[sacred tundra]

#swag

[spiral sage]

Tek canteen mod 💀

[broken veldt]

Flamethrower needs to be Nerfed, Maybe Buff Fabi and Pump a bit more, Lower Bola Timer to 10-15 Seconds. But that flamethrower meta is just hella boring everyone running in Suits and Flamethrower; Flaming u going up and Down to flame again.

[sacred tundra]

^

not even trying to make it useless, just trying to make it not the only thing people use in ground pvp

[sacred tundra]

16 c:

[analog matrix]

Bump

[spiral sage]

Nah, just need to learn how to use a shield properly bro, bola is not going to be nerfed

[sacred tundra]

i think everything is fine but flame

flame should be nerfd 100%

[spiral sage]

Yeah, flame maybe should be nerfed but not 50%

[sacred tundra]

no one said to nerf them a entire 50%