#Some changes that would make the pvp experience better here.

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hearty lagoon
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Re-add Pyromanes in future clusters
-They have been nerfed so badly, they can be bolaed and do 20% less damage to everything. on top of the 50% nerf they already get on EliteArk. Theres no reason we should not be able to use them in my opinion.
Disable Tesla Coils
-The new tesla coils make raiding extremely frustrating, if the defender has all three in play, then your dino takes 2.5x turret damage, gets stunned in place. and you take damage on your tame even on a stego. Making raiding a frustrating experience causes players to leave.
Undo some of the dino nerfs

  • I think that the carbo nerf and the official stego nerf should be undone. Nerfing carbos makes some ratholes extremely difficult to raid on top of them likely having the new tesla coils. the stego nerf could be undone by increasing their resistance a little bit.
wintry hamlet
rancid gorge
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They shouldn’t be nerfed

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Not with Stegos being nerfed now

wintry hamlet
rancid gorge
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You have no way to soak some bases

rancid gorge
wintry hamlet
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Stego sadle should be caped at 100 at least

rancid gorge
wintry hamlet
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Ahh

fervent flume
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also on the lower tribelimit servers like solo only and sd there should be a turret cap (in the area not on a whole map) like 75 or 100

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and a strucutre limit in place

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15k foundies on a base while raiding as a duo is insane with or without meks

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75 turrets in an area will make people think about where they need to put them instead of just spamming them which is the problem rn

normal sapphire
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I don’t think removing the coils completely is the right idea. Get rid of them in caves like official is and that’ll be good. Shouldn’t be removing new content we just got bc y’all can’t figure out how to deal with them

hearty lagoon
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There is no dealing with them, if they are used properly they are just broken and frustrating.

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Theres no way to remove them from all caves.

fervent flume
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U can’t destroy with rifle or tek Rex

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Only c4 or rocket

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Which isn’t possible

lunar siren
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They really just making it impossible to raid with nerfing all soakers and orp doing insane damage

vapid ferry
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Few cannon balls and the coil is gone...

normal sapphire
split crater
normal sapphire
hearty lagoon
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Cannon is not a viable counterplay tactic to them if you ask me.

halcyon summit
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I like tesla coils, i just want them to be disabled being placed inside caves like it should and it would be fine

brave idol
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yeah just disable them in caves, let everyone who has a rathole continue to be unraidable 😂😂

normal sapphire
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Just say you only know how to soak and move on with the complaining

hearty lagoon
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I would be fine if it only does damage but the bright setting stuns pts.

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So you cant even cspin or stego run.

swift lichen
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Yes and currently some caves you can't place them others you can so is not very balanced at all

normal sapphire
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My opinion just make them not placeable in caves along with lowering the stack sizes for crystals so they aren’t stacked with 20k

wintry hamlet
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Also ratholes dont count as caves

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So that wouldnt make sense

swift lichen
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It's weird how they work anyway on island I can't place them anywhere within 6x of my pack cave but on center and ab I can place them inscaves

wintry hamlet
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I saw them in isl caves in 6x

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In Yeti cave

normal sapphire
swift lichen
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Only outside 6x

wintry hamlet
normal sapphire
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Wow really? I didn’t notice

wintry hamlet
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Also if they disable that in caves it will be still able to place in ratholes?

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And thats even more aids

normal sapphire
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Would depend on the rat hole. Can’t make a general rule when it’s different case to case

swift lichen
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I would honestly just remove them until is some way to balance out

crimson kindle
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Loving the discussion. Keep it up. This is exactly how we talk through suggestions.

swift lichen
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Hmm so I've checked again today and now I can place them inside 🙄

wintry hamlet
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This just dosnt feel like ark

normal sapphire
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It’s not a perfect fix but I’d say make some rule where you can’t place them in any crouch entrances or anything equal to that so they aren’t impossible to deal with but they’re still a good defense to use

swift lichen
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Then so be it lol I have them but wouldn't care if they ate removed

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Couple caves I've had to push this last week have been a real ball ache ngl

normal sapphire
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Along with repeating myself about the stack sizes would they be more acceptable if it only could stack 1k/5k crystals in it?

swift lichen
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Still doable but just took hella more runs lol

normal sapphire
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I just don’t like seeing new content removed before people even find ways to counter it. We always just say it’s op then want it nerfed or gone within a week

swift lichen
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And yes the stack sizes are pretty crazy to, the biggest problem is the orp factor had a few ppl dip on us mid raid n then the tesla really screws ya

brave idol
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i’d agree tbh once i put down teslas i pretty much know the base is unraidable ngl 😂

normal sapphire
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I think nerfing the stack size. Make crafting them harder then if possible make orp not effect them and they’d be balanced but idk server’s stupid well so not sure if that’s even possible

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And obviously keep them from being placed in caves

peak flame
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I agree with the disable Tesla coils. I disagree with undo the Dino nerfs. Stego needs the nerf they got for that bit and pyromans should be still a poll for each tribe limit if they want it on that cluster. I think 3man + servers would be okay to have pyros enabled. For solo and duos it should remain disable and banned

swift lichen
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Nah pyros are pretty cheeks on here now tbh barely see ppl using them

normal sapphire
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Nerfing stegos should mean we undo the carbo nerf and pyros are terrible

hearty lagoon
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Bump

dreamy nymph
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Lol good thing u did. I missed this one

hearty lagoon
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bump

dreamy nymph
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lunar verge
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I personally think Teslas are good where they are supposed to be - outside in the world. As I see it it's good addition to the game and it opens up possibility to build at other places, than just caves. But it's true that Teslas don't belong to caves, which in many cases could be already quite frustrating to raid.
I am not sure what technical possibilities are, but is it possible to block Teslas from being built, wherever is 6x? Because I know that you can add 6x anywhere you like (you add the zone), and if you do so, would it be possible to make it blocked for all of those areas?

bright viper
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Reducing Crystal stacks would be annoying but an easy fix. Another option (if able) is to change the consumption of Crystal per shot. Make it 10:1, (10 Crystal per shot). Basically making them easier to soak.

Wild Card needs to make them destructible by tek rifle and tek saddles for further balance

hearty lagoon
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No, it isn't really possible to disable them in caves unfortunately.

halcyon summit
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They'll probably be nerfed in the future but currently theres no way to disabled them on caves unless it was with a mod, #🐲ark-polls theres a poll for them right now so do vote there for what you want

whole smelt
halcyon summit
dreamy nymph
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halcyon summit
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silk birch
# wintry hamlet Also if they disable that in caves it will be still able to place in ratholes?

End of the day the way it seems your gonna have them in caves and ratholes or just ratholes and towers cos no one wants them fully removed it’s the 1 thing making ppl online raid instead of offline which keeps pop up I’m not saying they needa be kept how they are they deffo need a nerf but beggars can’t be choosers at the end of the day and it’s lookin to me like it’s either gonna be allowed in caves and ratholes or onlu allowed in ratholes and towers, another way is make it banable to use them unless it’s on a tower or on a base not in a cave/rathole

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If ur gonna ban them while ur at it remove zeplin and gene gun zeplin makes no sense it’s op on ab and u can raid anyone since when the hell was flyers on ab and it breaks what ab should be, gene gun lets u find any tame ur looking to tame completely removes any searching which Yh it’s nice but makes shit boring, also remove the clock tower it boosts so much shit u can make it boost crafting or metal smelting and it’s just dumb, ban the tek forge that shit smelts metal faster than the AA forges and that’s without the clock tower, shall I continue giving issues cos at that point u might as well just ban bobs tales and watch your pop decrease cos ppl stick to offline only raiding

halcyon summit
silk birch
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U get my point tho right?

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It helps prevent offline raids how can ppl actually complain I bet every single person who votes banning them is using them unless they broke and that’s on them if that’s the case

halcyon summit
# silk birch U get my point tho right?

I do get your point,they might be strong or whatever but for offline raids it helps a bunch they would have to waste more time or do an online raid if they give up

silk birch
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Yh exactly n the whole point of this cluster is that u want ppl to online raid so it doesn’t die so why take away soemthing what prevents offline raiding

granite hare
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Why tie so many changes to one poll? I get the idea but this is like an omnibus bill…

hearty lagoon
silk birch
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Yh but would u rather everyone offline or everyone need more time to raid in general?

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Cos low-key that’s the only way ppl actually raid on asa I’ve never since the game came out seen watched or been involved in a proper online raid as a defender, we online raid ppl but everyone logs off so it becomes offline

stable copper
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I think the affect of teslas during an online raid definitely outweigh their advantages during an offline raid, so either you have them or you don’t.

blazing pecan
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teslas are disabled in caves

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but should be a rule on rat holes

hearty lagoon
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I agree.

halcyon summit
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Same

swift lichen
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