Legacy Feedback

[subtle shard]

It ruined the queue times

[viscid prairie]

Give us more XP for playing Legacy. To complete the season pass we are forced to play regular D2

[fleet kayak]

Legacy map is too bright in most of the areas while being almost completely dark in the others(like elevator 1st -> 2nd floor) at night period, innocents can see terrors a lot farther than they should

Pistol spread should be increased. In Legacy it was much bigger when you spam your shots, now it feels like shooting from lasergun that always shoot in straight line, every fight is too short because of that, even on a huge distances

Blood bag sound is too quiet. When I play D1 Legacy with my friends - it is much more loud(even with Quiet Quencher perk), so you can't drink a blood bag behind someone and it would left unnoticed

Blood bags should have light source with red color, it is too hard to check if blood bag is there or is it missing

[grim siren]

console only matchmaking

[fleet kayak]

As we don't have separate accolades for legacy I think it's worth adding total games count into "Wins" popup

[mint ocean]

reduce the delay in using the camera, it is impossible to blind the infected

[long aspen]

change it back to anonymity at nighttime no shooting no seeing each other and no talking

[mint ocean]

Vampire is very weak due to its size, it's very easy to hit 3 times, it's very hard to execute anyone on it

[mint ocean]

Improve the werewolf's ability so that the screen blurs and rotates in different directions for people in a radius, so that it is difficult to hit the werewolf

[pseudo wave]

just make terrors the size of the humans (only in legacy). This will balance the game by giving the vampire a chance to actually be good and it will make the terrors look nicer.

[pseudo wave]

Make cosmetics 3 different parts : head, body and face. This will give more variety for looks.

[split turret]

Add legacy specific accolades

[quick depot]

Make tracker duration ~20s. It used to be like that in legacy. 80 seconds of global highlight is too much.

[tired pelican]

you can crouch when you are downed maybe fix that

[pseudo wave]

Add loses alongside wins, we should also see the bad parts(loses) ,not only the good sides(wins).

[odd juniper]

"Happy Hour" should double all Legacy mode XP until ranked becomes a thing

[fleet kayak]

We shouldn't be able to insta kill someone after we vent out, some kind of animation is needed, when we get out of the vent

[cunning valley]

Adds cooldown for Double Objective to fully open

[pseudo wave]

knife

[flat oar]

• please please please bring back the legacy escape music

• keep D2 gamemaster voicelines out of legacy mode
• make only OG d1 characters in legacy
• remove the reveal animation at the beginning, keep it simple like real legacy
• add the D1 map graphic as the loading screen at start (I guess for now it would just be the Asylum graphic)
• remake the original getting up animation at the start of the game
• remove the D2 game starting SFX at the beginning of the game and replace it with the D1 game start sound
• remove the weird purple light at night
• rework the movment (players are so fast currently, you can't bunny hop, you cant switch items mid sprint jump without it stopping sprint)
• add back the original endscreen instead of the weird reveal animation

[pseudo wave]

The animation when you transform should take longer, at the moment, when u press T(the transform key) not even half a second passed and you can execute the innocent right besides you, not giving him a chance to react and instantly being executed. The simple solution to that is to make the animation a little bit longer.

When an infected transforms besides an innocent, the innocent and the terror bodies are in the same spot, nocliping eachother, and by that happening, the innocent cant really shot the terror to defend himself. This problem is mostly seen at the werewolf due to it having 4 legs and staying horizontal. To fix that you should make the terrors and the innocent collide with eachother (maybe its already in the game but its not really polished).

[opal osprey]

30 minute cooldown/penalty for people who back out of queues as soon as its found, or when roles are picked. people are leaving already dead queues until they get picked as terror

[boreal zinc]

Every time I try to pick up ammo/armor, or try to pick up someone when I have pistol on hand without being fully loaded, I can’t interact, I need to have the pistol fully loaded to be able to interact. Because of this every time I have to pick up someone I have to change to another item and most of the time I lose, change this pls (this happens only on console)

[pseudo wave]

We need the pistol mechanics of legacy deceit 1 as soon as possible. You can down someone even if he has armor in literally 2 seconds, the way the pistol shoots now is just like a fast lazer, 100% accurate and very fast. The way the pistol shoots right now might be good to deceit 2 standard due to ammo being limited and not being used as often, but in legacy pistol is used way more. We should have deceit 1 pistol mechanics in legacy deceit 2 in order to balance the pistol and not get insta downed even with armor. We need this as soon as possible and you should give this priority because shooting is one of the most important things in legacy.

and maybe remaster the usp from deceit 1... it looks better in my opinion

[odd grove]

request from me an idea can you do that in deceit 2 legacy could make a match 1 on 1 with a friend in the user lobby because in deceit 1 for the sake of such people who did not play with cheats began to use them and if you added such a thing personally people like me would be easier to learn about bugs on the map.

[pseudo wave]

The terror sense is way to overpowered, now the game is literraly live deceit 1 with that terror sense. We need legacy deceit 1 terror sense.

[little dragon]

Be able to turn off crossplay on PC

[flat oar]

• there is no running screen animation/movement when holding shotgun
• remove delay between switching between items in inventory
• light items are underpowered & terrors need to be nerfed (bring back legacy terrors)

[pseudo wave]

Give us exactly the legacy deceit 1 quick chat wheel. It was smooth and actually useful. And give us text chat aswell because sometimes people cant talk.

[flint shard]

Imo buff the light items a bit atm they are pretty useless

[pseudo wave]

Fully remake the start animation when getting in a match, also the ending screen when everyones roles get revealed. And try to make them as close as original legacy's ones because they are basically better in each way. And make it so we get our roles after you wake up and get off the floor the same as in original legacy.

[flat oar]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[covert lotus]

Revisit Torch numbers, widen the lens

[pseudo wave]

Give the experiment lower speed when using its ability.

[pseudo wave]

just bring back legacy light items, same mechanics, exactly the same, most important to make them work even if the terror isnt looking at you

[nimble bridge]

The torch just feels terrible imo I feel like I’m tickling a terror when I pull a torch out and shine it at the terror. So, I think that a way to fix this would either to buff the light damage it does or to make it slow the infected more kind of like deceit one but maybe not as severe
(And maybe that’s not the right way to go about it but that’s just my thoughts)

[pseudo wave]

just do what I said before, bring back legacy items

[pseudo wave]

give us the ability to jump as terrors, innocents can just jump over some objects and the terrors have no chance to do anything.

[mint ocean]

A vampire's speed should be like a werewolf's, as it was in Legacy

If someone slightly touches the plate with the box task, then you can take the shotgun or another item. Make it so that the item can only be taken when the box is fully opened

[potent geyser]

✅

[fleet kayak]

Can we have an option to hide game watch popup? I really want to know who my teammate is at the first seconds of the game

[jolly flame]

THIS EXACTLY, it feels like theres nothing you can do against an experiment if they have their ability
taking absolutely no dmg while having the largest hp pool is insane

[tired pelican]

reduce reload time slightly

[fleet kayak]

guys, good news - it works as it should, experiment is moving exactly as player with knife, when you see an experiment - you should just run, that's it...

[pseudo wave]

we know that but lets say you turn around to shoot him and he uses his ability and he catches you... you have no chance to kill it

[fleet kayak]

that's how it should work, yeah

[pseudo wave]

the ability needs to slowdown the terror, there must be a bad side about using the ability

[fleet kayak]

bad side is that the terror is slower than any other and if you just run it won't kill you

[pseudo wave]

but its logical that the ability should have a downside, in legacy the yeti had the same ability but with speed slowdown and it wouldnt affect normal health(thats how i remember)

[tired pelican]

Add some sort of global leaderboards in legacy, kinda like d1. (wins, rep, when ranked releases mmr)

[ancient ember]

hello, long time deceit 1 player here. about 1500 hours in deceit 1, old streamer, and old rank 1 player in ranked.

i want to share some thoughts about the deceit 2 legacy mode that can hopefully improve the quality of it a little bit.

1. the gun reloading feels really bad. it takes forever, is delayed and makes for a very clunky game. also it feels like there is a definite lack of ammo in the game. 9 bullets is not enough ammo for when you respawn. (this is probably my biggest complaint)

2. the "dusters" which are replacing the knife i supposed is extremely lackluster. the knife used to be one of the most extremely viable weapons in the game and now it feels like I'm helpless with these dusters. I'm not sure how they're designed so idk how to critique them, but they are extremely hard to use, and even if you do use them well they don't do much.

3. weapon/health distribution. armor is extremely hard to find in this game mode, and without armor, you get two shot by a pistol. it is extremely overpowered to down someone in 1 seconds with two bullets that aren't even headshots.

4. the light items are terrible, i personally think its more valuable to run around the map looking for ammo at the start of the game to defend terrors than use the light items. they don't slow down terrors enough to the point where its worth trying to get them. in deceit 1 they used to be really strong, which meant the infected had to spend some time collecting them so they could kill easier, which in turn meant less time for drinking. however now they don't have to worry about light items and have more time to drink.

5. the voice activated at all time is very bad for this game mode. i can see why its good for the main game mode of deceit 2, but for legacy its brutal and makes for so many mic spammers in games.

6. with how running works in deceit 2, it does not translate well into deceit 2 legacy. everyone feels way too fast, it feels impossible to catch anyone as an innocent, and it makes for infected drinking then running away super easy. this makes the game feel very very infected sided and makes the games feel un fun most of the time. maybe this would be better on different maps idk, but on asylum at least it feels impossible to catch anyone.

7. there is almost no delay between turning on someone and beginning the eating animation. if I'm right next to someone i can turn on them and 0.5 seconds later they are dead, no counterplay. in deceit 1 there was a 2 secondish turning animation before the killer could kill and he was slowed. this needs to be returned.

8. when i click e on objectives or collecting someone, i have to literally have my crosshair right on top of it and be standing directly over it. makes the game feel very clunky. a very slight bit more range could help a lot with that, similar to how it was in deceit 1.

overall i really wish i could say i liked the game mode. it seems like it has potential and could be fun but right now it just doesn't feel very fun. I'm gonna keep playing to learn more and gain more feedback for developers and get a better understanding of everything. obviously this is the first rendition of the game mode so it's a test, so i don't wanna be too harsh, but it needs a lot of work IMO.

[ancient ember]

also its very hard to tell who is who in this game.

in deceit one it was only lisa rachel nina hans chang alex so it made it easier to depict people but its rly rly hard to tell who is who espcially when there are 5 females in the game now priya, rachel, nina, lisa and beck

i cant tell who im looking at from 5 ft away.

also IMo the scanner takes too long to scan but thats a small thing.

[covert lotus]

0.75->0.6. Enough?

[mint ocean]

I think yes

in any case, need to check it in the game to say for sure

[faint heron]

We need to be able to actually report the blood bags (like blood altars ) and also see the time since the blood bag has been drunk

[pseudo wave]

see the time since blood bag has been drunk should be a perk but we shouldnt be able to report it like live d1 but only call it out with vc

[finite wyvern]

Legacy Feedback (Holls / Krivo / Eth)

Gun

1. when respawning when you are downed you should have 9 + 6 bullets
2. Reload feels to slow and should be faster
3. Sometimes the gun jams and you do not shoot and takes 1-2 seconds to shoot

Shotgun
4) The way you run with shotgun needs to be changed / animation wise

Light Items
5) Torch needs to be 100% buffed is an 0% usable item atm.
6) Camera also needs to be slightly buffed + delay of usage should be better ( you should not hit them directly on the face )
You should be able to do reduce light health even on their back
7) Terror light health regen needs to be reduced

Terrors
8) When transforming they should be a transform animation, so there is a small delay
9) If you lose 50% of your light health as a terror you cannot de-transform ( this is getting abused a lot while shooting but if we buff light items and do this is gonna be better )

Buffs on Terrors
10) Vampire needs to be buff needs to be faster

Exits
11) They need to be change when there is 2 upstairs in balcony 3rd location, they are to close to each other, is impossible to breakthrough as Innocent or Infected, whoever gets first wins
12) We should also re-add the pool upstairs 1st location exit for more variety

[odd grove]

please bring back the old shotgun model i miss it

[covert lotus]

Should you stop sprinting when switching items? (As it is currently)

[pseudo wave]

We need to shoot slower, right now is way to fast to fit legacy. And make the fire sound more aggresive.

[timid timber]

Able to stay Sprinting when swapping items

[pseudo wave]

Give us a little bit of recoil, legacy is way more shooting based which makes it logical to have a little bit of recoil.

Make the pistol shoot slower, the way it is right now is way to fast to fit legacy.

[covert lotus]

See the time when bloodbag was drunk

[sharp kraken]

Yeah but it should take like 3 seconds

[ancient ember]

@covert lotus how do I remove my lfg tag

[cunning valley]

Above all channels, go in Channels & Roles

Then uncheck Get pinged for Deceit 1 games

[ancient ember]

Ty

[cunning valley]

Np

[timid timber]

Gooding a Great Job Violet keep it up light items may need a buff in some way

[ancient ember]

Yes, but not as much. The stopping between switching feels a bit heavy just tone it down a little. If you remove it completely the game will feel terrible please don’t do that. That’s how it was made in one of the last deceit 1 updates and it was awful

[pseudo wave]

oh yeah, i remember in legacy when u switched to knife u would walk for a second and then start sprinting again

[floral pebble]

hello everyone, what do you think about adding keybord an mouse for PS5 and XBOX players.

[flat oar]

Please no! The movement in D1 was so fun cause u could switch between knife/gun/what not instantly while sprint jumping to “bunny hop” around the map

[timid timber]

Perks would Be funn in Legacy

[twilit torrent]

Infected should be able to eat the other infected like in d1.

[abstract patio]

Make the bench in pool fully wallbang'able instead of just having a huge collision box like it does now.

[timid timber]

Reset timer on floor 3 if Fuses are put in

[abstract patio]

Custom settings for legacy, including ones that make it easier for infected to win.
-Adjust amount of blood bags
-Adjust amount of blood lost after getting respawning (Option to set it to 1 half bar)
-Adjust the delay for fuses to be able to get grabbed

Innocents won every single game in the finals of Holls' tournament, but in an average casual game the infected might not really need any buffs, so it makes sense to have these as option in custom lobbies.

[potent geyser]

✅

[finite wyvern]

We need between 2 month time frame

• ranked mode
• new map

( We really need this to keep the game fresh and to have something to play for )
If not the game-mode might lose a lot of players and we want to actually keep playing since a lot love this game-mode.

[finite wyvern]

Also can we remove that 0 counts as 1 second
when you in the floor is 11

[odd juniper]

Allow Terrors to break doors with grab

[tough estuary]

make win counter refresh after every game and not after rejoin

[timid timber]

little 2 cents from me : Vents may need a nerf not Balanced and maybe Experiment too the Block is Extremely strong feels like cheating and 1 of the Highest hp Terror Edit: or ig keep it as is and be invincible and unbalanced healing to full 🤷‍♀️

[little dragon]

bring back pool exit in first stage

[fiery temple]

fix knife delay and item switch delay

[fringe knoll]

Please remove some of the doors or at least let some of them permanently open, there shouldn't be this many

[finite wyvern]

We need sbmm in terms of wins before ranked is introduced so we are not playing with level's 1-10's on this mode.

1 single player thats awfull and the game is 100% ruin because they do not vote or drink or do anything
This is killing the gamemode.

Is better to have 3 min queue with decent players than a faster queue with newer players.

Everyone has atleast blocked +15 players bcs they are just clueless is going nowhere

[austere portal]

When you knock the other player he falls without animation, and there is no animation when the player dies after getting enough votes (we'd like you to add it)
You can't jump over the objects, such as stairs, bookcases and the others

[fringe knoll]

reduce the number of ammo when you spawn first, from 9/18 to 9/0. and then maybe increase the number of ammo spawns in the map

[tough estuary]

make curtains opaque

make the night dark instead of pink, add ambience, find a use for the candles on the map, make the game darker and more familiar to old players

make it possible to jump down from the stairs in the transitions between locations

make it so that both doors open at once if they are double

buff shotgun damage from 100 to 120 (for all bullets), and increase the amount of ammo in it from 2/4 to 2/6

buff camera damage/camera slow

buff flashlight power overall but make it last lower

remove shower doors completely

add some doors with windows like in legacy d1

remove doors from childroom (not from office)

close the passage between corridor near double room and east cells

make it possible to jump onto the stairs on tribunes (as I understand it, this cannot be done because of the infect model, so you can expand the room a little and increase the passages themselves)

[mint ocean]

I think need to add glow to terrors when they are flashed by cameras, flashlights, and traps. It is not very clear now how much light HP terror has. You do not understand what to do: flash him or just run away. Perhaps because of this, most people simply do not use light items #🌙┃legacy-feedback-discussion message

[tired pelican]

I think you need to make it possible for terrors to jump. There are obstacles such as desks, cookers in the kitchen 3rd stage, etc which weren't designed in the original mode to stop terrors

[pseudo wave]

an adittion to that, make the terrors the same size as the humans and balance the grabbing range since it feels kinda long

[tough estuary]

Violet said that they cant do that

she said that if there will be a lot more players and theyll vote for that they will make it, same for terror models

[pseudo wave]

but going by the "if there will be a lot more players" isnt really good because in order to get players you need to make the game good so the people keep playing the game, if you just wait for the game to become "popular" when the game is just a beta then your wasting your time

[timid timber]

Wolf shouldn't have invincibility frames when in grab animation cancel able to shot 4+ bullets before wolf takes damage

[tough estuary]

i already asked her if they can make it and they answered this,
so i can't do anything

they cant do it bc they dont have that much devs to make models in legacy team

[pseudo wave]

I have also asked her some things and I got answered the same thing as you. I understand that the studio is small but if they wanna see more players in the game they gotta do some important things that might be difficult to make but might make the game more balanced and more succseful.

[little dragon]

reload speed needs to be 30% faster at least

[fringe knoll]

30% looks like too much

also I think we should be able to down the terror while they're eating an innocent, ofc it wont cancel the animation but it will make the terror untransform and respawn somewhere else like in the legacy

[nimble bridge]

Light does this

You can use camera to break the grasp of an infected for example, it’s 2 flashes

[terse cedar]

What he is talking about is a different feature there was in legacy, which isn’t in the D2 version.

[nimble bridge]

Gotcha coach

[pseudo wave]

😭

[final vigil]

Make the Perk Tree again, that balances the infected role. We need fast reload and slow fire rate. The infected needs the perk that if you down some innocent u get half bloodbag or the one that if u die u lose only half bloodbag, or the one that u start with half bloodbag, because in good lobbies its literally impossible to drink, asylum it has been a infected role map but without the perk tree, it is impossible to be able to drink 2 infected at the first round, imagine about forest, forest is hard innocent map, without the perk tree that balances infected it will be so bad, we need rankeds soon as it is possible and more maps, because the legacy game makes more people that played old times to come back but if there's no changes soon they will be leaving the game until something changes.

Playing the game with only 1 map it is so repetitive, if there were at least ranked games, people would be entertained by an objective.

There is also a problem for people who have been playing for a long time, which is always playing the same map and on top of that there are people who don't know how to play because they are casual, that's why we need ranked games whenever possible, it's normal that people don't know how to play because in many games you know who the infected is and you manage to knock them down several times but your teammates don't vote because they don't know how to play the game.

[tough estuary]

i cant do anything abt it, i can only suggest balance changes

[final vigil]

The infected terror sense should be like Legacy, not when the innocent is running. (Balance)

[torpid trench]

now that we are talking about perks, what about slasher?

[final vigil]

We shouldn't be able to see our role(infected/innocent) before the game starts. (Change)

[pseudo wave]

Give the emblems that will be achieved from ranked legacy mode a gold framing like in Deceit 1, they will remember us of Deceit 1 and they also look better.

[flat swan]

Title rewards for the ranked legacy mode as well as the already confirmed emblems. Something like "og top 10" for the first few seasons would be funny.

[little dragon]

terror swap in game instead of before game. Gives a slight buff to infected, for example if you or your teammate take camera early you can go a non-experiment terror since the innos now have less light items

[fringe knoll]

omg what are these answers on the survey

I'm gonna crash out

[terse cedar]

95% of people voting have never played D1/legacy and most don't even really play D2 legacy 🐢

[fringe knoll]

I swear

they want to hold a button to pick up someone omg

[cunning valley]

Imagine

[fringe knoll]

Team win

[boreal zinc]

add the game master’s voice lines from the original legacy

[flat oar]

^^^

[boreal zinc]

add animations like when you put the lethal to someone, the same as in d1

[timid timber]

Like Some other games do make it were if the other gamemode has less players playing Add a % More xp to make the Qs going more ppl playing the gamemode for a set time or when not many players on on the gamemode

[flat oar]

^ like dead by daylight blood point bonus when queue for low are survivor and vice versa

[tough estuary]

cool idea

[timid timber]

Thank you ❤️

[boreal zinc]

add text chat like in d1

[cold escarp]

Few points to make legacy better :

for picking up : instant revive first, then short cooldown
being able to jump on every props/ remove invisble walls in the stairs
Less ammos, add a cut instead of this weird thing that is most of the time bugged
Remove the cooldown for fuses
Rework on the light items that seem completely random/bugged as well
-Make vents actually useful for all the terrors ( removing the cooldowns)
Rework on the shotgun to make it dangerous

[tough estuary]

make the gun sound more realistic

add a faint glow from candles at night

make a knife instead of knuckle busters (someone posted that already i think)

make a cooldown on fuses lower (5s instead of 10s)

redesign antidote icon

[flat oar]

cameras and flashlights need a full rework they're just terrible rn

[austere portal]

Return the ladder to the pool as exit

[fiery temple]

fix the punch hit delay

[cunning valley]

Bug reports aren't suggestions 🤓

[fiery temple]

my bad i’m just suggesting they fix it 🤓

[dry bane]

just add the things from deceit 1 to legacy mode 1 to 1 copy :Dd

[fleet kayak]

deceit 1 and legacy are different things, the only thing they have in common are maps and tbh legacy mode was much more popular

[boreal zinc]

replace the knuckle duster with the knife

[flat oar]

^^^^

[boreal zinc]

make the terrors smaller and able to jump

[hushed furnace]

Rework some of the current things to be more like D1, mostly animations

like make downed/bleeding out people like how it looks in D1 and possibly change the text from "you were Banished by X" to something else

[fleet kayak]

I don't really like 3rd person camera while downed. In D1 legacy it was 1st person and blurred, so you can't immediately start blasting after you got picked up - you need to understand what's happening first and only then start fighting(if neccessary). Basically the whole purpose of blur and 1st person cam was to limit the incoming information, which should be the case in D2 Legacy too

[fleet kayak]

Limit the gamma for legacy mode, please, I SHOULD NOT be able to see what happens on the other end of the map at night phase, and sometimes(LOOKING AT YOU, ASYLUM) even at the day phase

[flat oar]

Knife

[neat fog]

GAME NEED TURKİSH LANGUAGE

[dark pagoda]

Seasonal Items

So, we know that Legacy is going to try to be a 1:1 copy of Deceit 1 Legacy, but the problem with this is that there's going to be a point where after getting all the maps, there's no more content to add to legacy.

Now what im suggesting is... Seasonal Items! To spice things up a bit!

Basically, each season, 2 items from the Standard mode will be added to the Legacy mode, after the season ends, those 2 items get removed and replaced by another 2 items. This way, you can have new metas and gameplays on each season, and you dont have to make any new item just for legacy.

It will also allow people to use the skins they get from either the shop or season pass, which is really cool! (For example the newest Decoy Master skin, which is useless since Decoy is not on legacy!)

[fringe knoll]

oh yeah can't wait for the innocents to use 4 thermic goggles to chase me down

good fking idea