this off season should do that
#Offseason Talk
finite coyote
sturdy lake
Him and I havenāt had our sit down yet
finite coyote
u think he waits till next offseason?
barren relic
i think he shouldnt sign anything
sturdy lake
Maybe since this extension he signed early
finite coyote
i told him ill keep coming to games if he stays
finite coyote
i think he shouldnt sign anything
if im him i wouldnt
but if im a bucks fan, sign him asap
barren relic
wait til his P.O.
then wait for the team to get that max player or 2
loud geode
Shams: Giannis Future Uncertain As He Waits For Meeting With Nickymal
sturdy lake
Shams: Giannis Future Uncertain As He Waits For Meeting With Nickymal
My sources donāt converse with that FRAUD
finite coyote
of uncertainty
barren relic
whats the media gonna say, any more than they have so far
finite coyote
more
sturdy lake
actually, my leakers (idk the proper word)
finite coyote
youre leaking?
sturdy lake
My sourcees
finite coyote
bro doesnt have sources
sturdy lake
I am the source
loud geode
like Giannis
finite coyote
and carry a big stick
sturdy lake
finite coyote
look, xepno and i are only alive to see what horst does next
sturdy lake
What if I told youā¦ Horst and Rodman are hanging out tonight
finite coyote
which rodman
sturdy lake
The worm of course
sturdy lake
The crazy one
loud geode
Shai Hulud?
sturdy lake
Holy shit I thought they would be somewhat close in age
Rodman is fucking 64 and Horst is 42 lol
steady swift
Kuzma gonna give them a backup PF, letās go!!! https://fixupx.com/pelicansethan/status/1939847450220724655?s=46&t=BnoeKt0WpxsWC7idHDs6rQ
loud geode
Yeah, Horst is the baby genius.
steady swift
Herb not even in the big 3, let us have him.
loud geode
Bwahaha, Poole on the Pelicans is so unserious.
finite coyote
Kuzma gonna give them a backup PF, letās go!!! https://fixupx.com/pelicansethan/...
this team SUCKS
sturdy lake
steady swift
this team SUCKS
I know that 2031 frp is calling Dumars name
sturdy lake
Is Zion actually suiting up this year
finite coyote
suiting up to go to the buffet
loud geode
Suiting up for court.
finite coyote
getting suits filed on him
restive barn
Kuzma gonna give them a backup PF, letās go!!! https://fixupx.com/pelicansethan/...
Why does Poole fear Alvarado?
Does he have PTSD from Green?
finite coyote
Does he have PTSD from Green?
turan what did we say about ptsd jokes
loud geode
tawdry dome
Oh did we get some info about Micicās buyout?
finite coyote
no
weak sierra
Oh did we get some info about Micicās buyout?
Yossi Gozlan's number is too specific not to have heard anything imo
left grotto
What's so important about the buyout number?
Is this anything related to kuzma trade or is this old?
steady swift
It was bucks twitter taking things out of context
weak sierra
@left grotto with the buyout, you can reduce the cap number of the contract. So if we gave Micic 1m for a buyout and he accepts, that reduces that cap hit to 1m
In an NBA buyout, the team does still take a cap hit, but it's reduced based on the amount the player gives up in the buyout. The team is on the hook for the remaining salary owed to the player, minus what the player forfeits in the buyout agreement. This can free up cap space and a roster spot for the team.
steady swift
āIt doesn't seem like the Pelicans are done making moves in their frontcourt just yet. Jose Alvarado and Jordan Hawkins have been two names floated around in trade rumors, with New Orleans wanting to add more size, sources said.ā
slow oakBOT
āIt doesn't seem like the Pelicans are done making moves in their frontcourt jus...
Michael Jordan played 15 years, won six championships. The other nine years was a failure?
steady swift
Yep they need Kuzma
finite coyote
FxTwitter
not sure if i like wills or not
p sure he joined and left our server awhile ago lol
can anyone else confirm that memory for me?
weak sierra
Hes a long time realgmer
finite coyote
aware of that
left grotto
So does anyone understand the Room Exception and whether or not we have that to use?
kind socket
I have a feeling weāre going to see a Kuzma trade pretty soon here, and Iām really hoping we trade for some sort of guard. I looked through each teams roster and came up with a list of names that I think may be available.
Coby White Weād probably have to include an FRP.
Terry Rozier This would be a straight up swap, and even then I'm not even sure we'd want to do this. The Heat probably wouldn't want to either.
Collin Sexton Weād probably have to include an FRP.
Dejounte Murray Iām not sure thereās a way to make salaries work, but even if there was, this would be contingent on whether or not Murray would be back early in the season.
Jrue Holiday Iām not sure thereās a way to make salaries work, but even if there was, Iām not sure both parties involved would want this.
Cole Anthony Weād probably have to include a few SRPs, but if canāt do this without giving up an FRP then nevermind.
Immanuel Quickley Weād DEFINITELY have to include an FRP, and also maybe another FRP swap (their choice). Iām not sure why the Raptors would do this unless they were betting theyād be able to get Giannis by giving us our picks back.
slow oakBOT
shane6109 has been warned
kind socket
What, when did I post this before?
slow oakBOT
shane6109 has been warned
kind socket
ALL I DID WAS EDIT IT.
Anyways, thoughts on this? Out of all of them I feel like Coby White would be the most realistic.
Maybe something like this, unless I've missed something with Jevon Carter.
tawdry dome
as much as Coby White has improved, it'd be nuts to trade the 2031 pick for a sixth man
kind socket
as much as Coby White has improved, it'd be nuts to trade the 2031 pick for a si...
I imagine Coby White would be our starting PG
with KPJ coming off the bench
hushed marsh
with KPJ coming off the bench
nah kpj got chemistry with our starters. We ain't benching him hopefully
hushed marsh
who is our starting 3 in this scenario
AJ green is always going to be our starting 3
atp
unless we make a crazy move
kind socket
who is our starting 3 in this scenario
AJ Green, AJJ, Gary Harris. Not the best options but servicable
kind socket
I'm not sure TP is a starting.
hushed marsh
Not starter
kind socket
Definitely a bench yeah
tawdry dome
Green can play the 3 but only really in a small ball lineup, Gary Harris is not a starter and Ajax has to become a more well rounded player to be a starting 3 going forward
finite coyote
ajax not starting dude
hushed marsh
Green can play the 3 but only really in a small ball lineup, Gary Harris is not ...
kpj/gtj/ajg/g/turner is a solid lineup
2 bigs in the paint too
hushed marsh
bring ajg in off the bench based on matchups
finite coyote
i really dont think we can play kpj ajg gtj at the same time
for long periods of time
hushed marsh
i really dont think we can play kpj ajg gtj at the same time
why not?
kind socket
I really want to believe that Horst is trading Kuzma. I mean, we waived and extended Dame, which I assume means we're going all in this offseason.
I think Horst is going to make another major acquisition
hushed marsh
cuz then one of the 3 will be hunted
On D?
finite coyote
yes
hushed marsh
they're all solid defenders
if somebody goes to the paint they have to get past giannis and turner
finite coyote
sure but then a team switches
ajg cant get thru a screen sometimes
nor GTJ
KPJ hides in the passing lanes and picks pockets
hushed marsh
ajg cant get thru a screen sometimes
tbh his size only benefits him with that, no?
finite coyote
hes only 6'4"
hushed marsh
I don't trust kuzma on defense
hushed marsh
I don't trust kuz on defense and I DEFINITELY don't trust him on offense...
finite coyote
i just think as a rotation
hushed marsh
he's gonna kill our lineup
finite coyote
i think bobby and ajg are 1,2 off the bench
i trust kuz more on defense on a bigger wing
and we hide his lack of offense with our other top 4 scorers
hushed marsh
i trust kuz more on defense on a bigger wing
how will they take advantage of AJ?
finite coyote
kinda like we did ajax
finite coyote
how will they take advantage of AJ?
screen and switch
ajg needs to work on defense without fouling now
hes taken a step every year
i hope youre right bro i do
hushed marsh
oh so you're saying AJ can guard big wings but he can't stay on them?
finite coyote
it just further complicates things when hes originally matched up on a big wing
hushed marsh
I think he can guard anybody except like Zion lmao
hushed marsh
well
he certainly can't guard the really big guys
Except wemby somehow
I think that was a one off I don't think he'll reliably guard wemby
It was cool though
kind socket
I've heard talk that the Raptors may be interested in parting ways with RJ Barrett. The Raptors also have desperately wanted Giannis for years now, although that was under Masai. Would you say yes to a trade for RJ Barrett that includes Kuzma 2031+2032 FRP swaps (their choice)?
hushed marsh
seriously though he can lock up a lot of the stars in the league
hushed marsh
I've heard talk that the Raptors may be interested in parting ways with RJ Barre...
maybe?
kind socket
seriously though he can lock up a lot of the stars in the league
I love AJ Green, but I think you may be overestimating him a teensy tiny bit.
hushed marsh
hes done it and hes still getting better
kind socket
Unless he actually is a candidate for MIP I don't see it, I'm sorry.
hushed marsh
also if teams can take advantage of AJ green they can DEFINITELY take advantage of kuzma being an idiot
I don't think he's the best ever but I'm actually going to cry if kuzma starts over him
hushed marsh
Unless he actually is a candidate for MIP I don't see it, I'm sorry.
he's not a bad defender tho
kind socket
he's not a bad defender tho
I didn't say he's bad, I actually think he's pretty decent. I just don't think he can guard bigger more physical wings
tawdry dome
aj green is a decent defender, he can stay in front of other guards, but he does foul more often than he should
hushed marsh
I love AJ Green, but I think you *may* be overestimating him a teensy tiny bit.
it's part of the job š
hushed marsh
aj green is a decent defender, he can stay in front of other guards, but he does...
a lot of the fouls are soft imo
kind socket
aj green is a decent defender, he can stay in front of other guards, but he does...
the key words there being "other guards"
tawdry dome
I don't really see him having the athleticism to guard 4s or 5s
hushed marsh
I didn't say he's bad, I actually think he's pretty decent. I just don't think h...
like who?
tawdry dome
3s are like, are we talking about Tatum or are we talking about Royce O'neal
hushed marsh
like he can guard guys like tatum
kind socket
like he can guard guys like tatum
I was actually going to say Tatum, and I don't think he can effectively guard a healthy Tatum I'm sorry.
Jaylen Brown too
hushed marsh
Ive seen him clamp Tatum lmao
kind socket
that being said those are two of the best wings in the league
hushed marsh
Tatum and Brunson are the first two I thought of when I said he could guard stars
I believe Tatum actually shot very bad while AJ green was guarding him. Idk the exact stats, but there was a game where he shot pretty well but when AJ was on him he only made one shot out of at least 6
kind socket
Why are we arguing about AJ Green lol, this all started because of Kuzma trade talks.
I think AJ Green is going to be a fantastic backup for GTJ
hushed marsh
š
kind socket
We have TP for a backup 3, we just need a better starting 3 than Kuzma
hushed marsh
Ajg and backup in the same sentence
dawg how is tp a 3 and AJ isnt
AJ is the same height with more hustle
I don't get that
AJ is definitively a better defender than TP
kind socket
and I'm hoping we can trade Kuzma for either a starting 1 or 3, or a better backup 5 than Sims. And I'm saying that as a Sims fan.
hushed marsh
AJ is the goat just trust
kind socket
AJ is the goat just trust
I think he has the tools to be an elite role player, like a mini-Khash
tawdry dome
dawg how is tp a 3 and AJ isnt
the difference is that TP is about 20-30 lbs heavier than AJG
kind socket
but I think that it's going to take some time for AJ to get there
My somewhat realistic targets for a Kuzma trade are either Coby White or RJ Barrett. That being said, maybe the Raptors would be more willing to part ways with Brandon Ingram over RJ, in which case I'd be all for it. I'm not sure we can get salaries to match though.
tawdry dome
I decidedly do not want BI on the Bucks, he's a black hole and not great in the locker room
hushed marsh
I think he has the tools to be an elite role player, like a mini-Khash
all around player + the best shooter in the league is I think his ceiling
kind socket
all around player + the best shooter in the league is I think his ceiling
Those are some very high hopes
I can respect your dedication
tawdry dome
I'd be willing to go for RJ, I think he's a bit overpaid, but he's better than Kuz
tawdry dome
AJG is an incredible stationary shooter but I don't really see him as a self-creator off the dribble
hushed marsh
and he can definitely grow as a defender, he already has moments that seem ridiculous
hushed marsh
AJG is an incredible stationary shooter but I don't really see him as a self-cre...
does he need that to be the best shooter in the league?
kind socket
hes definitely a top 10 shooter in the league rn
Taurean Prince was the 3rd best 3pt shooter last season, and nobody is claiming him to be great.
hushed marsh
he definitely can't create rn that's for sure
tawdry dome
there's a difference between regularly being the top 5 of 3P% and being a player that can create your own shot
kind socket
AJ Green was the 12th best 3pt shooter last season
hushed marsh
if he keeps putting in work who knows
hushed marsh
AJ Green was the 12th best 3pt shooter last season
yeah he regressed a bit coming off his injury mid season
kind socket
tawdry dome
but that's not really a bad thing, AJG's strength comes from his very pure stationary shooting form. he doesn't need to be a self-creator because he's always playing alongside Giannis and KPJ and all that
hushed marsh
he sometimes like pseudo creates a shot
he doesn't just literally sit there like tp
AJ green fan vs realists š
kind socket
I do think AJ Green has greatness in him, but it's going to take time to get there. I don't think he'll be a starter next season, but maybe the season or 2 after that.
As long as he doesn't hit an early cieling
hushed marsh
I do think AJ Green has greatness in him, but it's going to take time to get the...
the other difference is AJ green is never a negative. Kuzma has moments where he is very negative for the team, same with tp.
he almost always makes a positive impact
not quite never but
he doesn't have moments like kuzma does
and if he's shooting bad he literally js takes less shots
- he sets screens better than kuzma ever will
(imo)
tawdry dome
I mean, he does have the negative in, if he tries to dribble through tough defense, he will lose the ball often
hushed marsh
when does he ever do that lmao
tawdry dome
like if the other team is rushing at the ball handler, and you give him the ball when he isn't in position to shoot, its not ideal
hushed marsh
I guess you could say a negative is that he fouls a lot on defense, but I think he can solve that
tawdry dome
i remember a few times that happened, where giannis or whoever would pass him the ball just after crossing midcourt and the other team POA defenders swarmed him and he lost the ball or there had to be a timeout called
hushed marsh
I don't think kuzma can fix his glaring problems like AJ can
hushed marsh
like if the other team is rushing at the ball handler, and you give him the ball...
oh yeah
Doesn't he pass before it gets there though?
more times than not
tawdry dome
he can, and sometimes thats fine, but the passes aren't great and sometimes they get stolen
hushed marsh
its a matter of playing around his strengths and weaknesses. It's up to doc to do plays that work around all the players on the floor
hushed marsh
he can, and sometimes thats fine, but the passes aren't great and sometimes they...
yeah that's true
he's not like an incredible passer, but he's also very unselfish and doesn't force much of anything
ljke it would be weird imo if that started happening a lot
especially since he wouldn't be at pg
isn't that the pg's job
finite coyote
u joining team no sleep @hushed marsh?
barren relic
I want
Kpj gtj ajg G Mt
To start and finish games
hushed marsh
yeah exactly
we need to start good and finish good
and kuzma can do selling in between a little bit
barren relic
Harris kuzma Bobby Sims
For bench
And Ajax prince to mix things up if needed
hushed marsh
I think Rollins is most likely coming back
I don't see any reason why we wouldn't go grab him back
barren relic
I haven't watched Harris in a long while. So idk what he can do
hushed marsh
especially since we need pg
unless wait
maybe horst is holding off on Rollins so we can go get another pg
that might be the reason we don't have him signed rn?
does that make sense
he's gonna try and make a move and if it dont work we can always try n get Rollins back
barren relic
that might be the reason we don't have him signed rn?
We canceled "rescinded" Rollins $,
So we can sign Turner.
Rollins just gonna have to wait til we figure out our $.
Then sign for league minimum.
He losses a little $.
But, nobody else gonna swoop in.
Id prefer to bring him back, but, won't b that upset if we cant
hushed marsh
why not pick him back already in that case
finite coyote
hes lookin for more money/situation maybe
teams usually dont sign vet mins til later
other dominos to fall yet
steady swift
Reading the 2am report from Stein/Fischer (š)
āChicago, New Orleans and Sacramento are three more teams routinely suggested as possible landing spots for Kuminga, but pinpointing significant traction with any of them in these early stages of free agency has been difficult.ā
Hope the pelicans somehow get Kuminga, makes Herb more expendable imo
But in theory heād probably got the Warriors šāāļø nvm
Does mention Sacramento wanting to dump Malik Monk? Hmā¦
steady swift
Kuzma for Monk #observing https://fixupx.com/justesbaraheni/status/1940267197638783044?s=46&t=BnoeKt0WpxsWC7idHDs6rQ
sturdy lake
Some folks on Twitter were saying Monk looked good playing PG last year although it was fairly limited minutes
What ifā¦ we somehow took Keegan Murray from them
steady swift
steady swift
What ifā¦ we somehow took Keegan Murray from them
would be a dream
hushed marsh
just get kuzma off my team anywhere
steady swift
Listening to game theory podcast, their thoughts on the Kings: āno wings or forwards outside of Keegan or DeMarā
yep they need Mr. Kuzma
floral flume
Jim said don't expect anything significant but he also had that pod moment for Kuzma
I think there's a decent chance no Kuzma trade before the season starts
Sadly
Fischer is now saying Kings want to deal Monk for Kuminga in some way
hexed compass
If the Heat don't end up getting Kuminga, I would be calling them for Wiggins so fast
chrome knoll
Listening to game theory podcast, their thoughts on the Kings: āno wings or forw...
They have lavine still or did he get moved?
steady swift
They have lavine still or did he get moved?
Heās still there
chrome knoll
FixupX
floral flume
Interesting
steady swift
Nets: Kuzma, 2031 frp
Raptors: Ajax, Livingston, 2032 frp swap
Bucks: Immanuel Quickley, Raptors 2026 srp
loud geode
I think Raptors could get a better return for IQ elsewhere.
loud geode
Do we really like Quickley that much
I do.
floral flume
He's pretty inefficient/ I doubt he's good at defense..albeit idk much about him
Why
steady swift
Whose swap is that to the raptors
ours
steady swift
I think Raptors could get a better return for IQ elsewhere.
I donāt, his contract is terrible.
floral flume
He's also just not that good
loud geode
Good shooter, good playmaker, great energy.
floral flume
I donāt, his contract is terrible.
Oml
steady swift
Heās not āgreatā by any means but certainly think he would fit this team. I donāt understand how he got that contract tho.
floral flume
I'd rather get him teammate Barrett, and neither him or IQ should require two of our firsts
1
But who knows with Toronto, their whole roster construction is ugly and overpaid
steady swift
I'd rather get him teammate Barrett, and neither him or IQ should require two of...
I would like to think so. Just no idea anymore
floral flume
I think Toronto development would be good for him as a last shot
steady swift
If Kuzma is dumped, the Nets have to get something
chrome knoll
then we have nobody left to start at sf except ajg
So you think tp gets to run it back as sg? 
hushed marsh
So you think tp gets to run it back as sg? <:sobbing_tomato:1357093521550741684>
backup sf
AJ starting tp off the bench
at sg we have gtj and then uhhhh
hmmm.
steady swift
Tre Mann come on down
floral flume
Nah
steady swift
but yeah idk what theyāre doing with all those PGs
floral flume
Everything is unofficial, gives time to get the order of events down and last minute stuff
Like Houston still has to save money somehow iirc
They never explained where they got the money
steady swift
Waiting patiently for DeāAaron Foxās new extension at 20 AAV which is actually a sign and trade, negotiated by my goat Rich Paul
sit back and observe, not everything needs a reaction.
floral flume
steady swift
All those guards in San Antonio, he didnāt request a trade for that
floral flume
Yossi is saying Mavs need to dump someone to get Exum on the min
that signing takes them over the 2nd apron which they are already capped too
Omax to Bucks, hes a marquette player aint he
steady swift
Omax to Bucks, hes a marquette player aint he
Yes
I believe Stein/Fischer said he is likely to be dumped as well
floral flume
Id love Hardy but hes actually a decent player
steady swift
Omax was something me and Daqa discussed when we still had the TPE. Not sure how it would work now
We need a warriors trade that ends with us getting Moody
floral flume
the way Jim is talking, and the overall vibe I now get is Kuzma is here to stay for a little while longer
so I dunno how any trade happens anymore
all our big salaries cant be dealt for a while
steady swift
Iām just gonna say you never know until itās happening
floral flume
yea its just the vibe I get
I also think they r gonna wait now for Micic, Bogo, and Rollins
barren relic
We don't have any mid level salaries
G 54
MT 27
BP 14
and everyone else in single digits
Kuzma 22.
And that's the guy wer trying to move
How soon can we trade BP ?
floral flume
30 days I think
barren relic
Cause, that's the only way we can get big $ to make a big splash.
But, for someone with an expiring or multi years left and isn't working on their team
So, it'd have to b for a starter. PG, SG, SF.
Then we struggle with bench bigs
left grotto
Do we have any sf afterwards tho?
barren relic
barren relic
barren relic
what are the picks involved
Whatever we got left
barren relic
Yea, for this kinda move, I think I'd do it
barren relic
i dont really like Dejounte anymore
Oh, y
floral flume
I think hes solid, but an overrated defender from what fans of teams hes been on say
not a great shooter
I think hes an 'ok' 3rd option type of guy, if he shot better
floral flume
not NEARLY enough shooting
barren relic
I think that would be better than what we currently have
floral flume
I agree
steady swift
Just get us Herb and Jose
barren relic
Kk + 2031 + SRP
gray schooner
dejounte making 30 mill for what
floral flume
I think Dumars has been really stupid, so lets pray he continues course
steady swift
I think Dumars has been really stupid, so lets pray he continues course
Everyone made fun of him for trading our pick swap to Atlanta
Just for him to get a better Bucks frp back a few weeks later
(hopefully he thinks like this)
floral flume
that trade he did was crazy
steady swift
heās about to make it less crazy tho, trust the plan
floral flume
Herb has played at the #4 more than the #3, I wonder how we could find his shooting splits from each
hes basically a non factor from deep imo
low attempts mid %
steady swift
Pelicans fans have him listed as a 2 in their depth chart 
Which didnāt make much sense to me
floral flume
According to basketballref he hasnt played a minute of SG in his career
but I do think he could play it if the right team is around him
heres a promising stat, hes a career 40% from the corner
steady swift
somehow, PJ returned
tawdry dome
you know, I'd like PJ on a vet min
steady swift
Well heās still signed to the Knicks so šļø
left grotto
How do we have 13 players already and it feels like we should still add like 4 more
floral flume
well the idea of the deal was to save money
so this 3 teamer has to save enough money that the Micic deal wouldve
steady swift
Micic is going to Europe
steady swift
How do we have 13 players already and it feels like we should still add like 4 m...
Livingston and Tyler Smith might as well be imaginary
barren relic
Micic is going to Europe
if its just $ moving,
maybe we can do something more with it
steady swift
if its just $ moving,
maybe we can do something more with it
heās getting bought out and weāll have a roster spot. I donāt think itās anything more than that, maybe Iām wrong
barren relic
heās getting bought out and weāll have a roster spot. I donāt think itās anythin...
yea, thats probably what they intended.
but, if wer allowed to do more,
we need to see if thats allowed.
other teams have $ issues too.
i get, we did the move so we can save a million or 2
floral flume
I mean that trade lets the turner signing be legal
thats why they were willing to pay 2 whole srps for a million or 2
and micic buyout
barren relic
yea, i get all of that.
but,
they should look into whats allowed.
maybe we can snag a guy while helping another team with $ issues too
floral flume
im sure they are
steady swift
steady swift
@barren relic
floral flume
finite coyote
dont give up on him plz
floral flume
RJ is above 24.6 below 26.8
Herb and Trey both below 24.6
any other trade targets weve got
Coby White needs a fat extension I dunno if hes really there for us
but hes under 24.6
Wiggins too high
finite coyote
dont give up on him plz
RIP
floral flume
lmao
barren relic
<@889341601216868392>
nice.
exactly what i was trying to say
steady swift
Iām back to thinking we need Malik monk
Malik Monk and Josh Okogie, letās get this astrology W
loud geode
Malik Monk on this team would feast.
floral flume
fr
sturdy lake
I would still be āelatedā if we could pry Keegan
floral flume
Haynes said "after the Kings were unable to find a landing spot for Malik Monk" in reference to them trying to sign Westbrook...this makes me think they already tried calling up anyone interested
sturdy lake
Haynes said "after the Kings were unable to find a landing spot for Malik Monk" ...
Maybe price gets a little lower?
floral flume
thats if they desperately want to move him vs we will see what we can get for him
tbh there was all that stuff abt Monk for Dennis S&T right
that sounds desperate
steady swift
Fischer/Stein also said they were trying to get rid of him, and they still have too many ball handlers rn
Nets really the only team that would take Kuzma imo
sturdy lake
Is it pointless to go for Keon Ellis
floral flume
I think the Nets will want to resign Cam Thomas with their own cap
floral flume
not enough to take in Kuzma and sign Cam
i dunno
lemme see if my goat Yossi posted there rundown
floral flume
if they renounce Cam Thomas and then try to extend him they have upto 28m
sturdy lake
Suns š«
floral flume
I think someone posted this the other day but imma drop it again
updated cap sheets for every team
made by yossi
its not perfect and he makes some liberties (no Micic already)
but its helpful
also good lord we have such a cheap roster compared to recent times
139m not including the Dame cap hit
steady swift
owners smiling ear to ear
floral flume
thats UNDER THE CAP without the dame cap hit, wed be like 15m under
thats crazy
what a turnaround
steady swift
PG: Fire/Air sign
SF: Fire/air sign
please get me these Horst, then we are ready to go
steady swift
PG: ?
SG: AJ
SF: ? (Kuzma is not a bad Astro fit but he sucks at basketball)
PF: Giannis
C: Turner
that good 2021 synergyā¦ yummy
floral flume
what was the synergy of the 2021 team
finite coyote
kpj at pg/
steady swift
Kuzma literally a perfect Astro fit.
We replaced Brook (Aries) with Myles (Aries)
Khris (Leo) with Kuzma (Leo)
steady swift
what was the synergy of the 2021 team
A+
Literally what Iām describing would be an A+
floral flume
is there a website u find this stuff
steady swift
we can easily get back there. Malik Monk makes it work
steady swift
is there a website u find this stuff
No, but I love how fanspo and Spotrac include everyoneās birthdays lol
they know what Iām looking for šÆ
floral flume
imagine u could plug these guys in some website and it pops out the synergy
barren relic
i like Monk.
but, i see him as a combo guard.
which im cool with.
as long as everyone knows.
and, id say hes below average defender
floral flume
wouldnt even be that bad to make
barren relic
monk > harris and probably rollins
floral flume
Monk played more PG then SG last year for the first time
steady swift
Kings fans seem mixed on that experience
steady swift
Lowkey do we need a real PG? A ball handler might be fine. Idk
floral flume
he also had a poor shooting year
we need a scorer who is tall imo
or at least can play the 3 and be taller then Gary
steady swift
Bucks have a wing on the roster challenge (impossible)
barren relic
Lowkey do we need a real PG? A ball handler might be fine. Idk
we DONT want a traditional PG.
someone who needs the ball to run the offense and be effective. usually with poor defense
steady swift
Malik Monk isnāt even that tall sadly
floral flume
id rather bank on a good KPJ AND Rollins year at point then Kuzma at the 3 having a good year
thoughts?
barren relic
combo guard, who can defend, is probably better
malik, not really a dfender
but, his 8 super hot shooting nights a season, will win us those games
steady swift
Kuzma needs to be off my team
floral flume
thats a lot of guards, not a lot of passing
I also have irrational faith in KPJ and Rollins to be good
barren relic
17.2p 3.8r 5.6a
45 starts
65 games
31.6mins
Mmonk
steady swift
I also have irrational faith in KPJ and Rollins to be good
I truly donāt mind them as our PG rotation, it whatās I expected since Dame got hurt. wings are more important rn
barren relic
big SG and SFs,
that r starting quality,
r not really attainable
barren relic
people with no moves, tend to b funny
steady swift
I think Kuz is funny
He is, in a dumb way
Wish he would just be useful on the court š
barren relic
im gonna list everyone who is listed as a SF. pick a few and warm up the trade machine
finite coyote
No, but I love how fanspo and Spotrac include everyoneās birthdays lol
im a bball ref fan myself
floral flume
both r good at different things
floral flume
im gonna list everyone who is listed as a SF. pick a few and warm up the trade m...
drop that list here big dawg
steady swift
im a bball ref fan myself
another classic
barren relic
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floral flume
wow
floral flume
Kuzma makes 22m, so they have to be around that the target
steady swift
LeBron buyout trust the plan
barren relic
floral flume
ik weve mentioned him a lot but Barrett seems like a really easily attainable player - the fact Toronto is random and stupid and wants to keep their team
I honestly think a protected swap would get it done
barren relic
floral flume
Mikal is inline for an extension and I think he will be overpaid
stay away
Norman Powell? scorer at least
barren relic
hes expiring
steady swift
I honestly think a protected swap would get it done
Seems like such an overpay would hopefully get some srps back
Heās an Astro fit tho
steady swift
ugh
barren relic
Seems like such an overpay <:sobbing_tomato:1357093521550741684> would hopefully...
yea, send back a few SRPs, and maybe we can make it work
floral flume
Kuzma would get more value next year as an expiring
and we have an extra FRP
another reason to think he will be with us for at least opening night
chrome knoll
i feel like we have a championship roster if we can get a 15/5/5 sf
steady swift
floral flume
some of the western conf teams are really really good, but with a quality SF I think we can compete in the east
and as we know with Indiana, you just need a team thats connected and firing on all guns at the right time
barren relic
some of the western conf teams are really really good, but with a quality SF I t...
u seen the list of SFs
its not good
floral flume
yea I think no srps, and prot on the swap
steady swift
Can we trade Ajax for a srp
barren relic
didnt know we were lacking as a league, in wings
steady swift
I need some badly for 2026
steady swift
didnt know we were lacking as a league, in wings
we have zero
floral flume
Can we trade Ajax for a srp
id like to think he still has that value lol
steady swift
and have for several years now
floral flume
didnt know we were lacking as a league, in wings
its been known for a while that quality wings r the hardest to get
barren relic
6'9 guys were lacking in this last draft
chrome knoll
maybe we don't need a good wing if no one has one! š¤
barren relic
it was 6'7 then 6'11 bigs
floral flume
Houston also has a monopoly on big wings who can play the 3/4 but guard everyone
share the love please
barren relic
its y we gave 5 SRPs for SF jc
floral flume
dont remind me
barren relic
and y Marjon fail, hurt
floral flume
even in todays standards good lord 5 srps
Crowder was having a bad year before that trade!!!!
he even shot really well with us but still did nothing
steady swift
and y Marjon fail, hurt
this is why he got selected over Nembhard. I truly get it. Just didnāt work
barren relic
Crowder was having a bad year before that trade!!!!
we traded for him OFF HIS COUCH
floral flume
god needs to make it up for us by dumping TP for 5 srps next year
finite coyote
remember when NONE OF US wanted crowder
UGH
for every good move we do, we seem to make a brain ded one
floral flume
Jim just said exactly what is the realistic course here
Kuzma trade machines r hopium
steady swift
floral flume
https://fixupx.com/brettsiegelnba/status/1940565646896705543?s=46&t=BnoeKt0WpxsW...
this is what will happen
but lets see
this would be an amazing add for Detroit and would honestly put them around where we are in standings imo
so lets steal him lol
steady swift
Westbrook signing with the Kings
Can Detroit still get him with all the people theyāve signed?
floral flume
official?
Yossi is saying the Kings are sign and trading for Dennis and Detroit is working on who to get back
saying an alternative if they dont agree on a return is creating a TPE
hushed marsh
does Russ have a title?
floral flume
but it seems Dennis WILL be a King
steady swift
saying an alternative if they dont agree on a return is creating a TPE
FixupX
steady swift
does Russ have a title?
no
barren relic
remember when NONE OF US wanted crowder
i did the year before.
member, Marjon for Crowder
left grotto
Oh brother https://fixupx.com/yossigozlan/status/1940060924645167359?s=46&t=Bnoe...
I thought we have been under the assumption we are a salary cap team with ppl saying kpj and gtj were signed into the room exception. If we are an "over the cap team" wouldn't we have the ntmle and a bae?
floral flume
important distinction, once you are under the cap and spend cap you have the room exception, after using cap and the room exception you can be above the cap
so you can start in one and end up in another, but have the tools from the first
rn we are at 162m, if you take into account a favorable Micic buyout
chrome knoll
is there a world where we trade that euro guy we got for pat to boston for sam hauser?
slow oakBOT
is there a world where we trade that euro guy we got for pat to boston for sam h...
Fuck Boston.
chrome knoll
they need to cut cap
barren relic
is there a world where we trade that euro guy we got for pat to boston for sam h...
I mentioned this.
Someone posted a link about it above
finite coyote
finite coyote
https://www.spotrac.com/nba/milwaukee-bucks/yearly
weak sierra
Micic isn't going to be traded. Him being bought out and reducing his figure is pretty crucial to Turner.
While Boston needs to dump money, in order to afford Turner, so do we, and the Micic buyout facilitates that
slow oakBOT
While Boston needs to dump money, in order to afford Turner, so do we, and the M...
Fuck Boston.
chrome knoll
While Boston needs to dump money, in order to afford Turner, so do we, and the M...
But we can leverage that in a trade couldnāt we? Where we trade him for a 3m player or something and then the other team gets his buy out so we still cut 7m and they get to cut nearly his whole contract
weak sierra
But we can leverage that in a trade couldnāt we? Where we trade him for a 3m pla...
Think our aim is basically to cut the whole deal.
chrome knoll
Agreed, but we still have options I think
left grotto
Man, I finally stopped paying attention, and then come back to CP3 being a possibility and Beal getting bought out?
kind socket
You're right, let's get CP3 AND Beal
steady swift
crazy thing is, those TPEs might end up being relevant
left grotto
So much hype for a 7 team trade lol
steady swift
Game Theory mentioned Kuzma for Malik Monk as part of a larger trade to get Kuminga to the Kingsā¦ itās real and happening š¤«
restive barn
I donāt know how I feel about getting rid of our only big forward and not getting one back
steady swift
and mentioned that people in the Kings FO were previously interested in Kuzma
restive barn
Like I know we all hate Kuzma but thatās an archetype Iād like us to have
Iām also wary of the fact that Kings have been very very adamant on getting rid of Monk
steady swift
Kuzma as an actual 4 is not needed imo, but we do need a wing
they also mentioned the idea of Keegan Murray (or his team rather) wanting to be moved if the Kings land Kuminga
sturdy lake
In my opinion Iād take Keegan over Monk due to the size and him filling a position of need
Weāre pretty guard heavy as it stands
And as it looks, Iād probably expect Kuz to start at SF, otherwise itās Prince lol
steady swift
I would love Keegan just donāt know if itās realistic
Glad this general idea/framework is gaining traction. I wouldnāt mind this especially if no picks are involved https://fixupx.com/tiwindisch/status/1942213970750067106?s=46&t=BnoeKt0WpxsWC7idHDs6rQ
Rollins
AJ
RJ
Giannis
Turner
^ basketball and astro approved 
sturdy lake
I donāt love RJās game but I could probably buy into it.. especially since he brings size
steady swift
Rightā¦ not perfect but it solves a problem. And heāll be expiring next year if we want to move him (same for Kuzma tbf)
sturdy lake
Does RJ guard?
steady swift
@reef sail ^
steady swift
floral flume
Does RJ guard?
Not really, average:.at best
left grotto
So we now looking out for monk trade, Beal/CP3 buyout, or last vet min signing?
weak sierra
I find Barrett moderately interesting, because I feel like there's an extra gear there where hes just not getting over the hump, but there is concern that he hasn't cleared that yet.
tawdry dome
RJ Barrett is completely Fine as a player, not a whole lot special but he can take shots and eat minutes
which makes him a big improvement over Kuz
steady swift
I find Barrett moderately interesting, because I feel like there's an extra gear...
He just turned 25
maybe we can help him take a leap
weak sierra
Raptors fans seem to loathe him.
Worth noting that if he wasn't so dogshit at the line last year his efficiency would really pop
63% for a volume scoring wing is a whole shit bucket
floral flume
Raptors fans seem to loathe him.
I dunno I see mixed results on reddit, idk any raptors fan irl
yea his ft% in general scares me lol
weak sierra
I dunno I see mixed results on reddit, idk any raptors fan irl
Nobody does, they're all crisis actors
sturdy lake
Should we ask Jaeki
steady swift
restive barn
I remember Barrettās biggest knock for years was that his rim fg% was horrendous
When he was with the Knicks
finite coyote
we dont need him at the rim with g tho
restive barn
Yeah but itās a huge part of his game, he gets to the rim A LOT
Thatās why it was knocked cause he was great at getting to the rim but just not finishing
finite coyote
thats why im worried about the fit
weak sierra
I remember Barrettās biggest knock for years was that his rim fg% was horrendous
Point blank he's meh, it's that in between stuff now from 3-10 where he's sub 40%. A floater would do him wonders.
With the paint already packed with Giannis, the fit worry is reasonable.
finite coyote
floral flume
floral flume
fs
steady swift
now I feel like a crazy warriors trade is coming
chrome knoll
what is yoosi(spelling?)'s website?
floral flume
chrome knoll
ty
steady swift
chrome knoll
FxTwitter
weak sierra
Levert + Duncan
Is worse than
Schroder + Beasley
I think I like Levert more than most.
Guys a TALENT who's been held back by injury since he was at Michigan.
barren relic
I like Levert.
But Pistons needed that trye PG
I don't like Schroder,
But he was a huge help to them in the playoffs
weak sierra
Getting Ivey back is a pretty big boost for them
Also, I think Marcus Sasser could be a sneaky breakout guy
floral flume
Yea I'd bet on them being better rather then worse
weak sierra
He's a dude who shows out when he plays us.
I think it depends on Cade taking another leap
weak sierra
I think right now, he's more 2nd banana on a championship roster, can he ascend to an impact point where he's a legit 1
steady swift
I wonder if they tried to get Gary
Generally agree that they need another shooter. But at least they drafted Chaz Lanier. Heāll be important right away
floral flume
Chaz isn't a top 11 guy on that roster, he'd need to show out whenever he gets low minutes to actually then try to be important
steady swift
I mean they need him to do exactly that
fallow flare
Alright my ideal trade is now Kuzma for Monk/Keon
They get off Monk and apparently they really want a larger wing
Keon would be so elite on this team
steady swift
We need Keegan the most
weak sierra
inject an underachieving devin carter into my veins instead
steady swift
not gonna listen to this kings radio show, but it seems like they discussed DeMar for Kuzma at some point
not really a trade Iād want tbh
floral flume
me either
fallow flare
Keegan would be a homerun, but I doubt we could swing getting all 3
Don't have a ton of interest in Monk but they wouldn't and couldn't take on the extra salary of Kuzma
floral flume
absolutely not
fallow flare
Keon is an elite defender, super underrated. Also seemingly has gotten a lot better with his 3 ball. Watch some footage of him ball hawking the crap out of guys like Curry, it would be so fun to watch him and Rollins annoy the crap out of opponent guards
weak sierra
FWIW, Derozan only has a partial guarantee next season
He can be cut next season to trim 15m, that's a hell of a trade chip for teams looking to trim money next offseason or avoid the tax in season
fallow flare
Also very much okay with Derozan instead of Monk
steady swift
they should have never given me this https://www.nbarapm.com
now iām looking up every trade option
tawdry dome
Okay hereās some BS Iām gonna throw out there
Keeping the room exception allows us to offer more money to somebody like Beal, but not that much more given how minimums work
So I think we can use the 3.6 million to absorb another contract through trade instead
Which is mostly gonna be second year guys and random vet min guys that took a PO instead of just resigning for some reason
I think weāre trying to absorb one of those second year guys contracts with it
And my guess is that itās OMaxx
steady swift
I think that makes plenty of sense.
still wish it was da Silva but idk why Orlando would trade with us.
would happily accept Omax in that scenario
barren relic
who is Omax ?
tawdry dome
Could also be Daron Holmes. Iirc we were interested in him last year for drafting
Olivier Maxxence Prosper
Marquette wing guy, drafted last year by the Mavs
steady swift
tawdry dome
Theyāve been trying to find someone to take him because their roster is crunched
steady swift
btw fanspo finally updated 
steady swift
who is Omax ?
Olivier Maxence Prosper. he was my fave player to watch on the recent Marquette teams
steady swift
hopium
barren relic
tawdry dome
Okay Iām beginning to feel more confident in this guess because Beal (or any other buyout candidate with 10+ years of NBA experience) would already be making $3.64 million on a vet min, meaning the room exception would be pointless there
steady swift
Brogdon would make 3.6m as a vet min as well
slow oakBOT
Brogdon would make 3.6m as a vet min as well
UVA legend!
barren relic
Okay Iām beginning to feel more confident in this guess because Beal (or any oth...
theres some rule,
that if a players veteran minimum is high,
only X amount of it counts towards the teams cap
even tho they get paid the vet years minimum they have played
tawdry dome
Exactly! Another reason why the room exception wouldnāt make sense to use there
Though itās not super relevant given how far under the tax we are
steady swift
Gary Harris is the Ajax replacement
Omax is the Kuzma replacement
? is the Kuzma/Ajax consolidation
tawdry dome
Those are last years numbers I think
barren relic
steady swift
Gary Harris is the Ajax replacement
Omax is the Kuzma replacement
? is the Kuzma...
Rollins/KPJ/?
AJ/GTJ/Gary Harris
SF/Taurean/Tyler Smith
Giannis/Bobby/Omax/Bogi
Turner/Sims
barren relic
Rollins/KPJ/?
AJ/GTJ/Gary Harris
SF/Taurean/Tyler Smith
Giannis/Bobby/Omax/Bogi
...
depending on getting a different starting SF,
i want,
kpj, gtj, ajg, G, mct
to b our starters
steady swift
depending on getting a different starting SF,
i want,
kpj, gtj, ajg, G, mct
to b...
I just refuse to believe we are going into the season without a real SF.
barren relic
kk and prince, are real SFs.
but neither is starting level
steady swift
Kuzma isnāt
steady swift
Something related to your Omax theory - Doc knows Shaka and called him to learn more about Sims before we traded for him @tawdry dome
tawdry dome
Something related to your Omax theory - Doc knows Shaka and called him to learn ...
send him over Mavs.
steady swift
@deep yacht former Marquette player
loud geode
Because they dumb?
kind socket
Because they dumb?
fair point
steady swift
Why would the kings do it?
they already want to move Monk
Keegan will have even less opportunity if they end up trading for Kuminga
but ultimately itās hopium
they also need a forward really badly
loud geode
But also: dumb.
kind socket
Kuzma + '31 AND '32 FRP swaps (Pel's choice) for Tre Murphy. Yea or nay?
steady swift
and the front office apparently liked Kuzma in the past š¤ I think theyāre the most likely trade partner but idk if Keegan is really on the table lol
reef sail
they already want to move Monk
Id love that trade tbh
Hopefully they're dumb enough to do it
loud geode
Hopefully they're dumb enough to do it
Oh, they are.
tawdry dome
Troy Weaver is their gm
steady swift
They need to move Monk for money reasons
kind socket
If we hold them to a gunpoint maybe
I've said in the past that we're overvaluing our 31/32 FRP draft picks, but the prospect of them getting those picks doesn't even have them scratchin their chin?
steady swift
Keegan already doesnāt have enough opportunity, so the fans want to move DeMar, but he has no market yet
reef sail
With monk we would have like 4 SGs but as long as we get an SF too im good
reef sail
I've said in the past that we're overvaluing our 31/32 FRP draft picks, but the ...
I have no idea personally how valuable those picks are, but from the discussions ive been seeing its pretty valuable
So they might be a bit interested at least?
reef sail
Would yall prefer herb or keegan
floral flume
keegan not close
tawdry dome
no. we are not trading kuzma's dead weight for patrick williams deader weight
kind socket
Just the 31 pick, no swap.
tawdry dome
for everything you can say about Kuzma, at least he is an expiring next year
floral flume
the Patrick Williams contract is crazy
tawdry dome
patrick williams blows super hard and is on contract for four more years
floral flume
im also scared this next Coby White deal will be an overpay
steady swift
did I cook?
kind socket
Give the Pels the 31 swap and yeah
floral flume
the kings are not doing that
tawdry dome
kings getting super fleeced here lol
reef sail
did I cook?
You did if it actually happens
steady swift
DeMar/Herb doesnāt work financially š«©
reef sail
That quite literally could be our best case scrnario
steady swift
But Monk to the Pelicans makes sense
loud geode
You just need to rope the Bulls in somehow, and the Kings will jump at the opportunity.
reef sail
Get patrick williams to the kings
kind socket
This is a huge reach, but do you think the Knicks would trade Mikal Bridges?
weak sierra
no
reef sail
did I cook?
If horst actually made this possible then man oh man
weak sierra
They gave up 5 firsts and a swap
reef sail
This is a huge reach, but do you think the Knicks would trade Mikal Bridges?
They gave up too much for him to trade
kind socket
I always forget how much they actually gave up.
That's fucking nuts for Mikal Bridges
reef sail
Warriors fans trying to trade kuminga draymond and post for Giannis
kind socket
I'd say Kuminga could be a target for our Kuzma + 31/32 FRP trade package, but the Warriors are in win-now mode and Kuzma and those picks don't really help them accomplish that.
steady swift
kind socket
DeRozen going back to the Spurs is hilarious
steady swift
I already know Keldon isnāt good heās just a means to an end
steady swift
DeRozen going back to the Spurs is hilarious
I saw a spurs fan asking for him today
reef sail
Isn't keldon decent at least
tawdry dome
he's fine, I think he'd be a good buck
barren relic
did I cook?
M A G I CA L
give any SRP we have left and Bogo, Smith if needed too
steady swift
I actually feel like this is realistic š¤«
kind socket
I'm not sure the Pelicans are getting enough back, no?
reef sail
I actually feel like this is realistic š¤«
Can't we get monk instead of keldon
Ok wait no
steady swift
Can't we get monk instead of keldon
doesnāt seem worthwhile for the Pelicans
reef sail
Pels wouldn't do it
Keegan+monk or herb+keegan
Would be ideal
But unlikely
Id take herb + keldon tbh
quaint anvil
I feel like kuminga is not that much better than kuzma. Both are just not good, but kuminga seems like a worse locker room presence
reef sail
Istg kuminga is overrated by warriors fans when it comes to trading value
loud geode
Basically, if you have "kum" in your name, we don't want you.
reef sail
But when playing for them gets shat on
quaint anvil
Which one is which
kind socket
I'm assuming these are Kuzma and Kuminga, and we have to figure out which?
point made
kind socket
bravo
tawdry dome
kuzma is 1) kinda funny 2) not going to cost 30+ mil for 4 years
kind socket
Ok I am officially off the Kuminga train.
reef sail
So we are trading kyle kuzma for.... Kyle kuzma
quaint anvil
Not a big kuzma defender, just don't want to trade extra value and big contract for marginally better kuzma
reef sail
Makes sense
quaint anvil
Kyle kuzma for Kyle kuzma that needs a new contract
reef sail
So a worse kyle kuzma
kind socket
Kyle kuzma for Kyle kuzma that needs a new contract
that will most likely cost $30mil/yr
quaint anvil
And has worse locker room vibes
kind socket
At least Kuzma is cool
tawdry dome
remember folks: if they are young and on the Warriors or Lakers, then they are likely enormously overrated
quaint anvil
Getting benched completely by kerr is not a good look
hushed marsh
At least Kuzma is cool
reef sail
Well they got jimmy tbf
tawdry dome
you know how delusional we get about our picks? imagine how insane Warriors fans are, with the whole media behind them
quaint anvil
Well they got jimmy tbf
He got 0 minutes after that
reef sail
But mans just warriors kuzma
hushed marsh
you know how delusional we get about our picks? imagine how insane Warriors fans...
nah bogi got legit potential
hushed marsh
bogoljub
reef sail
Ah
tawdry dome
nah bogi got legit potential
warriors fans who want to keep kuminga think he is the second coming of giannis
reef sail
nah bogi got legit potential
Didn't we say this about Marjon
hushed marsh
Didn't we say this about Marjon
I wasn't around so idk
reef sail
warriors fans who want to keep kuminga think he is the second coming of giannis
Warriors fans think kuminga + a few others and picks are worth giannis
hushed marsh
I believe this guy though
reef sail
Im personally more hyped for sears
But idk
Hes a small guard
But man those brunson flashes are uncanny
steady swift
hushed marsh
Im personally more hyped for sears
bogi is a project, sears is already like 23 or something
reef sail
Prince isn't that bad tbh
He shot well
But man that D is atrocious
Istg tho early season his defense was decent
hushed marsh
what have you done
barren relic
u have some great trade proposals.
lots of WINS imo
kind socket
So our best trade package involving Kuzma includes the '31/'32 FRPs (at least one swap if both are included). I looked through each team's roster and made a list of players I think we could potentially get, and would be worth it. They are: Brandon Ingram, Tre Murphy III, and Andrew Wiggins in tier 1. In tier 2 we have Keldon Johnson, Keegan Murray, and Herbert Jones. I say tier 1 and tier 2 because the players in tier 1 averaged more points per game last season than Kuzma, and the players in tier 2 did not.
hushed marsh
kings giving up monk and DeRozan for kuzma š
kind socket
Thoughts?
steady swift
what have you done
steady swift
kings giving up monk and DeRozan for kuzma š
they already want to do this for financial flexibility/to let Keegan flourish. throw in a frp and it works
loud geode
Kuminga has the better nickname, though; unless we start calling Kuzma "Kuz Buckets."
reef sail
Kuzm buckets
steady swift
u have some great trade proposals.
lots of WINS imo
idk how we get a player of Herbās caliber without expanding it into a huge trade lolā¦ Kuzma/picks isnāt getting it done
barren relic
pels and kings,
just make bad decisions.
so, anything is possible
steady swift
Our SF roster is kinda meh
nonexistent
kind socket
pels and kings,
just make bad decisions.
so, anything is possible
So Tre Murphy, Herb Jones, or Keegan Murray are on the table then.
reef sail
Fair enough
reef sail
So Tre Murphy, Herb Jones, or Keegan Murray are on the table then.
Hopefully
kind socket
I really do think that we could get Ingram or Barrett from the Raptors as well
hushed marsh
getting rid of kuzma through any means is a huge win imo
kind socket
getting rid of kuzma through any means is a huge win imo
monkey paw curls, we now have Patrick Williams
hushed marsh
is this good or bad
kind socket
or Jerami Grant, WHO I STILL THINK IS A MORE THAN FINE PLAYER BTW
hushed marsh
idk them really lmao
kind socket
I've been told bad
reef sail
Imo tre murphy should be our top target
hushed marsh
not infamous enough
tawdry dome
you know how we're paying Dame 22 mil a year for a few years to not play basketball for us
hushed marsh
you know how we're paying Dame 22 mil a year for a few years to not play basketb...
I LIKE THE WAY YOU THINK
tawdry dome
Patrick Williams is like that, except he's still on the court, taking up space
hushed marsh
I REALLY LIKE THE WAY YOURE THINKING
oh I thought you were talking about kuz
damn
kind socket
Tbh I think this is a more than fair deal. At most I'd throw in an SRP or two, OR one of either AJJ or Tyler Smith.
steady swift
Rollins/KPJ/Brogdon
AJ/GTJ/Gary Harris
Herb/Keldon/Tyler Smith
Giannis/Bobby/Omax/Bogi
Turner/Sims
goodnight everyone
slow oakBOT
Rollins/KPJ/Brogdon
AJ/GTJ/Gary Harris
Herb/Keldon/Tyler Smith
Giannis/Bobby/Oma...
UVA legend!
kind socket
Rollins/KPJ/Brogdon
AJ/GTJ/Gary Harris
Herb/Keldon/Tyler Smith
Giannis/Bobby/Oma...
get some sleep you crazy sunuvabitch
kind socket
Tbh I think this is a more than fair deal. At most I'd throw in an SRP or two, O...
We can offer this same package for Herb Jones, but only one pick instead of two, but it's no longer a swap.
reef sail
Tbh I think this is a more than fair deal. At most I'd throw in an SRP or two, O...
I would love it
Murphy is also a 20ppg scorer
So he could help our offensivr punch
As well as give us that D
He is a good defender right
restive barn
I read Murray for some reason and was about to throw a fit cause I thought you guys were talking about bringing in Dejounte Murray
weak sierra
It happens when guys take an offensive leap, and I'm intrigued, but man, some of the underlying Trey Murphy numbers are pretty horrendous last season. A little wary that the box score production is bad team fools gold and paying for that production.
slow oakBOT
It happens when guys take an offensive leap, and I'm intrigued, but man, some of...
UVA legend!
steady swift
It happens when guys take an offensive leap, and I'm intrigued, but man, some of...
one of the reasons I simply prefer Herb
left grotto
How does AJax pushing back his date affect us?
I've seen reports that it doesnt change what we can offer to FAs like Beal for example.
But I've also seen how it could open up a third roster spot and take on more salary in a trade? Aren't we pretty significantly under the cap anyway? Why would this help?
floral flume
We aren't significantly under the cap
We are over the cap
It doesn't change what we can offer anybody
kind socket
I really think the Pelicans would say yes to this, those are almost guaranteed to be lottery picks.
floral flume
We also would have the 26 pick to trade next offseason
Kuzma 26 31 32swap 33 gonna hit like crack cocaine
barren relic
Kuzma 26 31 32swap 33 gonna hit like crack cocaine
im ok with trading any pick.
just really hope we maxamize the return
and that piece(s) fit great
floral flume
Who do we reckon will be available after this year, that can be a second fiddle to Giannis
barren relic
wed have to see who gets extensions this season
and, wed have to target the under 30 crowd
steady swift
Who do we reckon will be available after this year, that can be a second fiddle ...
You truly never know
I get why people want to save the picks. Iād be fine with using the 2032 swap this year on the right trade
The other weird thing is how we donāt have much salary to trade besides Kuzma lolā¦
floral flume
The other weird thing is how we donāt have much salary to trade besides Kuzma lo...
Yea it seems if u truly want the next level of salary in a trade Portis has to b there
The ~20m crowd isn't exciting
steady swift
doing this and flipping Keldon/Gary Harris next summer
barren relic
remember i listed all of the SFs the other day
its NOT a high quality group
4 r good and unattainable
the rest are mid
steady swift
both would be expiring, idk what player you try to get tho.
barren relic
even the prospects, not looking like they can step up
floral flume
Ru talking abt our current guys like Ajax?
barren relic
league wide
steady swift
Next summer:
Khris comes back on a vet min after healing for a year
Keldon/Gary Harris/2026 frp/2031 frp forā¦ someone
barren relic
left grotto
I've always liked Donovan Mitchell lol
sturdy lake
Who do we reckon will be available after this year, that can be a second fiddle ...
Wouldāve said booker without that extension š„²
steady swift
Iām glad a neutral person has at least thought of this https://fixupx.com/bobbobby85164/status/1942676822543720651?s=46&t=BnoeKt0WpxsWC7idHDs6rQ
Kuzma/Ajax/2032 swap isnāt a bad package idc what anyone says š¤«
kind socket
Iām glad a neutral person has at least thought of this https://fixupx.com/bobbob...
I honestly think if we add a 2031 FRP swap (their choice) and maybe AJJ we can get Tre Murphy, but I wouldn't say no to Herb Jones either.
steady swift
good morning chat
restive barn
I think Horst is holding onto the 2031 pick in case a really big trade is possible
steady swift
what about the 2032 swap
weak sierra
The jazz are not trading lauri for Kuzma and Keldon Johnson lol
reef sail
reef sail
The jazz are not trading lauri for Kuzma and Keldon Johnson lol
They've been trading bad
steady swift
The jazz are not trading lauri for Kuzma and Keldon Johnson lol
put some respect on their commitment to tanking
left grotto
I think they totally are treating Lauri
steady swift
good morning chat
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floral flume
Ru not showing picks in that deal
steady swift
I am too lazy to add them, and idk which teams should be sending picks where