we freaked out about this earlier
#Offseason Talk
steady swift
Sam Vecenie thinks Gafford could still get the Mavs a first round pick even on his new contract.
I truly wonder what Bobbyâs value is
weak sierra
Sam Vecenie also thinks thsi Jrue deal is "good" for Portland.
steady swift
I mean. All the reporters are saying that, which is kinda funny
restive barn
I think itâs more than Anfernee isnât good
People that have watched Blazers have been saying that
loud geode
I'm sure Blazers fans are happy to be rid of him; not so much the picks.
Or having to take on Jrue's terrible contract.
steady swift
Jrue in Portland I kind of get. They are overdosing on defense. Just donât understand them having to give up srps
restive barn
I was high on Simons because of his numbers on paper and the one Blazers game I watched last season but people who watched a lot of Blazers games disagree
That heâs just a chucker on a bad team with nothing else to his game
restive barn
Jrue in Portland I kind of get. They are overdosing on defense. Just donât under...
I honestly still donât care about second round picks
To me theyâre nothing
loud geode
...which means he'll fit Boston's scheme perfectly: he can chuck threes while letting others play D.
slow oakBOT
...which means he'll fit Boston's scheme perfectly: he can chuck threes while le...
Fuck Boston.
steady swift
I honestly still donât care about second round picks
I disagree these days. Either way, why is Portland having to give draft capital?
floral flume
Seems like there were other suitors for Jrue and Portland actually wants Jrue..not just to flip him
I bet that means there were some other solid solid Jrue offers out there
restive barn
...which means he'll fit Boston's scheme perfectly: he can chuck threes while le...
The more defenders you remove, the less viable that becomes
And on the other end, White gets even more of a defensive load so his offensive production might suffer
Regardless, without Tatum, that team is gonna look pretty lost on offense. He was their playmaker (not in a conventional sense but his scoring threat opened up defenses in a way that was the catalyst for their offensive style, I donât think Brown or Anfernee can bring that)
loud geode
Well, Boston's not done. Still gotta see what they can get for KP.
slow oakBOT
Well, Boston's not done. Still gotta see what they can get for KP.
Fuck Boston.
steady swift
Iâm expecting another big trade from Boston, not including KP
slow oakBOT
Iâm expecting another big trade from Boston, not including KP
Fuck Boston.
loud geode
Who else?
steady swift
JB
gray schooner
I was high on Simons because of his numbers on paper and the one Blazers game I ...
yeah he was pretty disappointing last season. still pretty much the same shooter but mediocre playmaking and bad defense. idk if heâs really that valuable on a playoff team but if the Câs goal is just to let him statpad and then trade him at the deadline, another team will most likely overpay them for his services
tawdry dome
Anfernee just has not grown into the player that people hoped he could be
Maybe on a better team he's more efficient but he's always going to suck at defense
Someone in another chat read between the lines and noticed that we've worked out Max Shulga a second time now
23 y.o. senior combo guard out of VCU
lemme get the Vecenie writeup
he's a shooter that can drive but probably isn't enough of playmaker to be a true PG in the NBA
good defender
not terribly athletic though and doesn't have seem to have that one standout skill that you really want in an NBA player
just decent at most things
steady swift
Vecenie has us taking Rocco
In his mock. Huge Australian guy lmao
Kam Jones also worked out for them https://fixupx.com/gerywoelfel/status/1937525353859174697?s=46&t=BnoeKt0WpxsWC7idHDs6rQ
FixupX
barren relic
Rocco can't ball
i dont want Rocco at all
weak sierra
We never take anyone I even remotely like in the 2nd so I'm not holding my breath
barren relic
We never take anyone I even remotely like in the 2nd so I'm not holding my breat...
i called Livingston
finite coyote
Kam Jones also worked out for them https://fixupx.com/gerywoelfel/status/1937525...
GERY
finite coyote
i know 
weak sierra
I'd be pretty pumped about Adou Thiero, Jamir Watkins, Micah Peavy
Old heads within the org still talk to Gery, but it's his crotchety saltiness towards the Bucks that makes him unbearable
He was plugged in to the Kohl regime in a big way
When the changing of the guard happened, I think his access was reduced a bit and he's been bitchy about it ever since
steady swift
Donât see how Adou is possible unless we move up
weak sierra
Who knows, the 2nd round is always a crap shoot, players fall all the time
Mocks last year had Bona, Cam Christie as early 2nds last year and they slipped to the 40s
Year before Max Lewis, Jackson-Davis the year prior
But aware, Peavy is most likely the one available for us
opaque stone
lol boston some bs rn i swear a couple of upgrades we going to the finals next year we will beat everyone only stuggle would be cavs witch is why we need to make some fixes fuck a gap year
slow oakBOT
lol boston some bs rn i swear a couple of upgrades we going to the finals next y...
Fuck Boston.
tawdry dome
boston is tanking next season it seems
slow oakBOT
boston is tanking next season it seems
Fuck Boston.
tawdry dome
ugh I just remembered the draft is a two day thing now
opaque stone
ugh I just remembered the draft is a two day thing now
yep got to wait till the 2nd hopefully we get a great defender with a decent anmount of offense
steady swift
steady swift
Not sure if I shared this. They also have a 25m TPE
steady swift
from the updates ESPN mock
weak sierra
He's got the stocks
But that wingspan feels like a problem when it comes to positional versatility
Especially at 190 lbs
restive barn
I feel like stocks at a college level can be deceiving
Cause the competition youâre facing is more prone to errors
steady swift
ESPN/Givony still saying Javon Small
The Athletic/Vecenie still saying Rocco
if we donât move up I simply wonât care
weak sierra
I feel like stocks at a college level can be deceiving
The lack of stocks is usually a major redflag as it pertains to future nba production
Kind of like summer league, if you ball out, doesn't mean much, if you look like you don't belong, probably not a good indicator
opaque stone
ngl if he still available by then the bucks will choose jamir watkins 80% sure
opaque stone
fkn washington took em
steady swift
good morning, we are back to trade machines
steady swift
Wait this is even better https://fixupx.com/richierandall/status/1938549618876539279?s=46&t=BnoeKt0WpxsWC7idHDs6rQ
rough canopyBOT
https://x.com/kellyiko/status/1938612663707410821?s=46&t=_RYopENxREDOvpfUqD4bYw
FxTwitter
steady swift
beautiful contract
and heâs a water sign⌠come on down Mr. Whitmore
Do the Rockets still want Brook? đ§
floral flume
Rockets fans I know don't think he'd be that expensive either
Like a solidly protected FRP
But they all still like him it's just there's no opportunity for him in Houston
steady swift
S&T Brook to the Spurs for srps
Use srps to get Cam
All I know is we need to try and get 2026 picks somehow
steady swift
@weak sierra thoughts on Okogie and Cam Whitmore?
weak sierra
Ill pass on Okogie
non shooter good defender, not a fit with Giannis
Whitmore doesn't feel viable with the money we have?
He's on a standard rookie deal
Side note, people should talk more about Taj Gibson playing at 40 and what this means for Lebron's legacy
(he's in the same boat with the Okogie NGd cut)
sturdy lake
Sarcasm I hope
steady swift
Itâs so clear they need Brook https://fixupx.com/zachnba_/status/1938718490879500619?s=46&t=BnoeKt0WpxsWC7idHDs6rQ
gimme those srps San Antonio 
steady swift
The price of Brook continues to go up https://fixupx.com/damanr/status/1938765173847916723?s=46&t=BnoeKt0WpxsWC7idHDs6rQ
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steady swift
The Turner overpay will hit like crack
steady swift
âFree agency doesn't officially start until Monday at 6 PM ET, but league sources say that numerous teams are operating under the belief that the Sacramento Kings have the best chance to sign Dennis SchrĂśder away from the Detroit Pistons, while the Dallas Mavericks are increasingly regarded as the favorites to sign D'Angelo Russell.
The early ballpark for SchrĂśder is a first-year salary in a new deal that matches the full $14.1 million midlevel exception.â
steady swift
catching up on everything from today
we are getting Sharpe for a bag of chips. my trade lives on
barren relic
https://fixupx.com/fullcourtpass/status/1938738910231777690?s=46&t=BnoeKt0WpxsWC...
WTH, this doesnt make sense
finite coyote
have the nets ever had a good front office
barren relic
did they make the finals 2x ?
i think lost to lakers once
i dont remember if that 2nd one happened or didnt
steady swift
Donât ask how or why, just believe
added so many srps it doesnât even fit in one screenshot
Bobby and Brook bidding wars, I canât.
finite coyote
what would u offer bobby vs brook if you are say, the clippers
3 yrs for bob
2 for brook?
steady swift
For a sign & trade I believe the contract has to be three years
finite coyote
oh i didnt know that
but they dont need to be SandT'd, do they?
or do they for the money to work out on the clippers end
bucks would love for that of course
steady swift
iâm not exactly sure. but given the cap restraints this year, people are expecting more of them to take place
For example, if Bobby wants more than 14.1m from a team that isnât the bucks, he has no choice but to do a sign & trade
finite coyote
yea i get bobs situation a bit more than brooks i think
he just saw naz get 25mil too
steady swift
I donât think Brook has to do a sign & trade unless he wants more than 5ish million per year
steady swift
good morning bucks nation
barren relic
good morning bucks nation
Ive been a yes or neutral on most of ur trades.
Im leaning to no on this one.
Id rather have Moody.
steady swift
Ive been a yes or neutral on most of ur trades.
Im leaning to no on this one.
I...
I mean, thatâs somewhat possible too.
A warriors fan account on Twitter proposed
Bucks get:
TJD
Moody
First round pick
Warriors get:
Bobby
barren relic
A warriors fan account on Twitter proposed
Bucks get:
TJD
Moody
First round pic...
This would be fantastic
steady swift
This would be fantastic
I have to admit I only changed it for astrology purposes
floral flume
TJD would really help out tho
steady swift
Yeah I think if we do S&T I want Bobby going to the Warriors
Brooklyn going to the Spurs bc they have a ton of srps
Collin Sexton/Rollins/Dame
GTJ/AJ/Ajax
Cam Johnson/Josh Okogie/Tyler Smith
Giannis/Larry Nance Jr/Bogi
DayâRon Sharpe/Trayce Jackson-Davis/Sims
steady swift
Nets still have not taken on any salary. Something to observe
floral flume
floral flume
someone informed me of this neat rule within the "hard capped at the first apron if you take in more money then you send out"
this has noting to do with us I just thought its neat
basically you can take more money in if you are getting two players and the 2nd player isn't needed for salary matching (fits in the minimum salary exception)
restive barn
Man Iâm still kinda in shock that Celtics are blowing it up
Those were some real battles
steady swift
Lmao
If JB gets moved Iâll agree, Jrue and KP just werenât there for the real #wars we went through
restive barn
Iâm seeing Derrick White and JB trade rumors
steady swift
Yeah but until they happen itâs kind eh
I believe teams are calling, but someone will have to offer the craziest hauls ever
chrome knoll
I am not parting with bogi for jwills
steady swift
floral flume
No
steady swift
you donât like him?
floral flume
Yes
steady swift
#damn
hushed marsh
Lmaoo
did we not pick up sears for PG depth?
I feel like he'd be fine at like 8-12 minutes
floral flume
He's a two way
We picked him up for a quality summer league and g league body
Anything past that is not expected
hushed marsh
If he shows out would we have to get him on a different deal to get him in the roster?
floral flume
Two ways can play with the main guys for a certain amount of games, till eventually they'll be required to be on a real deal before continuing
But to get this you reallly have to show out, not just in summer league but those few NBA games you might check in for
AJ Green is an example
tawdry dome
I feel like Sears will probably get some play for us
he's a fully developed player, g-league reps would just be to keep him limber
barren relic
Two ways can play with the main guys for a certain amount of games, till eventua...
50 games.
Including being on the bench and not getting on the court.
tawdry dome
floral flume
What the fuckkkk
floral flume
No it's just they had too many guards
Drafted Clayton
Maybe gearing to send Kessler somewhere
hushed marsh
do we want him?
floral flume
I just thought Sexton had more value than Nurkic
đ¤ˇââď¸ how am I supposed to know
I'd personally love kesslwr
restive barn
Kessler probably has insanely high value in this big man market
steady swift
our only expiring is Pat đď¸ sadly not enough money for Sexton
they basically exchanged two expiring contacts⌠weird trade
floral flume
Super weird
I can see wanting to swap expirings since u rather have a big
But when did Nurkic outvalue Sexton
steady swift
DayâRon unrestricted free agent⌠smiling through it all canât believe this is my life
floral flume
I wish we had GTJ on lock already man
I would love to be able to use our MLE $ on Sharpe
weak sierra
Surprised people think there's a value gap between nurkic and sexton
sturdy lake
I mean nurkic is fucking awful lol
weak sierra
Sexton is fucking horrific lol
Which one of these looks like the more useful player?
sturdy lake
One was playing in Utah the entire year and one was playing on a team that was trying for over half the year though. Sexton definitely not great by any means but nurkic is just brutal
weak sierra
One was playing in Utah the entire year and one was playing on a team that was t...
None of this has any bearing on this metric whatsoever. These specifically try to isolate contributions and take out team member and contextual influence.
Defending Sexton and then calling Nurkic just brutal is a choice.
sturdy lake
Okay
Nurkic and sexton are not two players worth arguing for lol but Iâm sure most people would prefer sexton when compared to Nurkic
weak sierra
If we're determining value to a team based on ppgzzzz and nothing else sure.
sturdy lake
Team situations can definitely have an impact though, I firmly believe that. Can definitely effect how a player plays/effort
weak sierra
These numbers are for the last 4 years.
sturdy lake
Okay but this is present day lmao
weak sierra
Which is why this year, present day is included in this sample.
You're saying situations can have an impact on performance when the sample included shows a consistent trend despite team performance
sturdy lake
Okay but the last 4 years doesnât tell you what the player gives TODAY
weak sierra
Lol
C'mon, you've got a guy being horrible for 4 years and you're projecting what he gives you TODAY?
sturdy lake
Iâll just let you have this one man lmao you love to play devils advocate
weak sierra
I'd say we have a pretty good indicator.
This isn't what playing devil's advocate is.
sturdy lake
I mean the common thought across the league really seems to be pro Sexton in this situation. So I would say yeah it is
Just like your thoughts on Kornet and the common thoughts across the league on him getting paid
And Bobby taking a pretty friendly deal
đ
weak sierra
I mean the common thought across the league really seems to be pro Sexton in thi...
For sure, it's why they were the ones who added a 2nd.
sturdy lake
Utah jazz basketball decisions are always correct!
steady swift
Obviously you would have to add picks but this is possible if you make the Livingston and Royce trades separate so Phoenix doesnât break the second apron rules @kind socket
kind socket
Obviously you would have to add picks but this is possible if you make the Livin...
I know it's kinda hypocritical for me to be the one saying it, but I'm not sure why the Nets or Suns would do this. The Nets at least make some sense since I assume they'd be getting our 2031 FRP and probably a SRP or two from us. However, I'm not sure why the Suns would do this at all. They'd be getting rid of $27mil in salary just to take back $25mil. If anything, I feel like the Suns getting Day'Ron Sharpe or Cam Johnson makes more sense for them.
That being said, at that point I'd just leave the Suns out of it and trade directly with the Nets.
I'm going to counter with this. Now it might be a little steep, but I think they may bite at this.
One FRP swap is for Cam Johnson, and the other is to get them to take Kuzma.
steady swift
I know it's kinda hypocritical for me to be the one saying it, but I'm not sure ...
Suns have already forecasted salary dumping Grayson and Royce to improve their financial situation, this just leads to them getting a player back at a position of need
steady swift
Copying this free agency report here. Marc Stein and Jake Fischer have somehow become the kings of off-season slop
- Atlanta are the front-runners for NAW
- Detroit interested in Caris Levert, maybe Duncan Robinson as well
- Memphis interested in Ty Jerome but it will depend on how much money they have
- Memphis will match any offer given to Santi Aldama
- Memphis trying to salary dump Cole Anthony
- Ayton will be at the top of the center market (impacts Brook and others)
- Mavs looking to trade Omax to increase roster flexibility (I would definitely be interested from a Bucks perspective)
- Orlando trying to sign Tyus Jones
steady swift
Olivier-Maxence Prosper, former Marquette player
22 year-old wing
Only makes 3m, would fit into the TPE
steady swift
I am once again pointing out that signing DayâRon into our TPE (7.2m) would give him more money than basically any other team is offering for a back-up big
His contract is guaranteed today, hoping he gets waived by the afternoon https://fixupx.com/richierandall/status/1938549618876539279?s=46&t=BnoeKt0WpxsWC7idHDs6rQ
sturdy lake
Sharpe dream is likely dead @steady swift lol
steady swift
Sharpe dream is likely dead <@675020084988870656> lol
weâre gonna trade for him at the deadline TRUST
steady swift
Copying this free agency report here. Marc Stein and Jake Fischer have somehow b...
Mavs letâs get it done
sturdy lake
Why is Al Horford not coming up in any rumors at all
Not just for the bucks but across the league
loud geode
Is his old ass finally gonna retire?
steady swift
Why is Al Horford not coming up in any rumors at all
He is I just donât post them lol
sturdy lake
Fair lol
steady swift
He is part of the very busy market for Centers. I guess the issue is, no one knows how much money he wants
Eric Nehm listed him as an option for us, but I highly doubt that happens
sturdy lake
I wouldnât hate it but idk if itâs realistic
steady swift
Donât think we have the money. Someone will at least give him 5m
loud geode
The Giannis Stopper + Giannis...on the same team?! 
sturdy lake
Heâs a Boston sleeper cell
slow oakBOT
Heâs a Boston sleeper cell
Fuck Boston.
steady swift
According to Scotto, Simone Fontecchio is available. Iâd love him but idk what we could give them lol
restive barn
Sharpe dream is likely dead <@675020084988870656> lol
steady swift
Sign and trade into the TPE đ§ https://fixupx.com/esidery/status/1939693472077746301?s=46&t=BnoeKt0WpxsWC7idHDs6rQ
If the Pelicans want an expiring contractâŚ
barren relic
If the Pelicans want an expiring contractâŚ
I have 0 interest in Bbrown
Not a 3p guy
Not a guy who can dribble drive.
I don't think he fits.
And we r so far away from needing that hustle and defense piece.
steady swift
I have 0 interest in Bbrown
even for cheap?
barren relic
even for cheap?
Yea.
We have other needs.
Assuming Rollins GTJ KPJ all return
steady swift
Yea.
We have other needs.
Assuming Rollins GTJ KPJ all return
I mean. We have no SFs whatsoever so thatâs a major need
barren relic
Id rather play Tyler as a SF
Even Livingston
Brown makes more sense for a team in the top 4 spots
steady swift
Re: Pat getting moved, I feel like heâs going to Utah or Brooklyn
finite coyote
finite coyote
floral flume
its almost time
steady swift
Brooklyn is gonna be tanking harder than ever
And now they have DayâRon locked up
finite coyote
they just locked up clax last year lol
finite coyote
why didnt they trade picks for next year
weird GM moves
ill have to look up what they have for picks next year
steady swift
They have a lot of picks but only one 2026 frp
But no contender has any picks to give them
floral flume
seems like the Prince leaving the state was wrong or didnt matter
hopefully his role is one of a minimum signing and not a starter
this is where things stand
17m under tax
14m to spend with the MLE
steady swift
I need a trade very badly
floral flume
theyll want to fill the rest of the spots up without going into the tax
Im not sure thats possible with the MLE and mins the rest of the way
lets offload Pat!!!!!!
floral flume
Keith Smith has us at 16.3 under tax
steady swift
I also wouldnât be surprised to see Livingston gone
weak sierra
I'd be shocked if he were back with how we're going to be hardcapped
floral flume
Yossi Gozlan, who we've been posting for a bit, predicts Trent comes back on the minimum
I like yossi
but that seems crazy
finite coyote
dame is giving gary half his salary this yr
floral flume
IF we get Trent on the min, we could get Yabu or Horford for a portion of our MLE
or
Ayton
IF Trent comes on that min
I really wouldnt mind Ayton at all
maybe (hopefully) Ayton will realize this is his last shot, and with a larger role maybe he does well
we certainly need a big anyways
floral flume
yea hes still in play
id like to think the teams that are vying for Horford are either at the same time trying Yabu, or waiting for a Horford resolution
floral flume
new setup
Trent coming in under KPJ, who saw that coming
if the numbers above are solid, we have some money to play with
can do 10m to somebody, last spot is a min...roll into the year with 14 guys
Yabu and Sims
actually Rollins isnt up there
I wonder what happens with him
if we had Dame
id be really happy
up to what figure would u guys bring Rollins back
floral flume
hes only 22
steady swift
I think we need a Pat trade first
steady swift
hes only 22
you think people are offering him big money? I hope not
Pat trade to the Suns
Livingston trade with Kuzma to the Nets so he can get more opportunity
floral flume
no, but he could eat into our remaining money as things stand to a point that might make us less competitive for some remaining FAs
weak sierra
GTJ just went for league minimum, I don't think we have to worry "up to what figure" with Rollins.
weak sierra
He DOES need to be on a two year deal though with no PO
I want full bird when that time comes without having to worry about it
weak sierra
whats his QO amount
2.6
floral flume
current team
hushed marsh
dame is giving gary half his salary this yr
wait fr?
finite coyote
lol idk
floral flume
no
someone in another server asked me if id do Kuzma and one of our FRPs for Myles Turner S&T, Pacers owner has NEVER paid the tax and signing turner back would do that
what r ur thoughts
hes a nets fan this is what he said
"Bucks send Kuzma + 2030 FRP to nets. Nets send Claxton and seconds to Pacers. Pacers send Myles Turner to Bucks and maybe a contract like Obi or TJ to nets to duck the tax "
steady swift
"Bucks send Kuzma + 2030 FRP to nets. Nets send Claxton and seconds to Pacers. ...
Well I would want Claxton in this scenario
Myles to the Nets
steady swift
I mean yes lol
steady swift
I donât want Turner so
hexed compass
"Bucks send Kuzma + 2030 FRP to nets. Nets send Claxton and seconds to Pacers. ...
I'm doing that in a heartbeat
tawdry dome
Kuzma and a first for Turner and Obi/TJ is insane value
steady swift
That would be such a cracked timeline
steady swift
Myles on the team after all of that would be so awks
steady swift
It would just be a crazy chapter
left grotto
So does anyone know if that Trade exception goes away after a certain time?
left grotto
I've got unreasonable hope that it makes our swing even bigger
Oh that's a good amount of time actually
floral flume
yea they last for a while
left grotto
So we don't have to use it this summer, I assume that Feb date is the trade deadline
tawdry dome
something like that
weak sierra
TPEs are one year from date of creation
tawdry dome
I think they just last for a year from when the trade was completed
weak sierra
so anniversary of Khris deal
left grotto
God it is a lot nicer here
floral flume
ikr
steady swift
"Bucks send Kuzma + 2030 FRP to nets. Nets send Claxton and seconds to Pacers. ...
observing and noticing
hushed marsh
"Bucks send Kuzma + 2030 FRP to nets. Nets send Claxton and seconds to Pacers. ...
waittt hold on
that works
put it in the trade machine
fallow flare
Hello I'm here to manifest a Kuzma/31 1st for Trey Murphy trade
floral flume
i thought its interesting the pacers owner has never paid tax before
it gives me hope
floral flume
we dont know, its just something that is an idea
hushed marsh
is it js to salary dump for them
floral flume
its to avoid the luxury tax
hushed marsh
and the nets get some solid pieces
floral flume
they get Claxton who makes less than what Turner would get
nets get a FRP for Clax like weve been saying
hushed marsh
yeah
floral flume
but Turner on a deal like that, im interested but wary
hushed marsh
this would be sick if it happened
floral flume
4/120 is a lot
floral flume
well its a sign and trade, so we use the Kuzma salary...idk if it matches up exactly but its close
hushed marsh
It's like 7 mil short
I think
Kuz is making 23
Does the 7.1 mil trade exception go into that?
is that how it works
if we do this though then do we have the space below the 1st apron to go get 2 minimum contracts and pick up a free agent on our MLE
floral flume
tbh im not exactly sure but the nets friend who told me that is smart, and fanspo trade machine says its good...so lets ride
floral flume
if we do this though then do we have the space below the 1st apron to go get 2 m...
nah wed just do two mins after that imo
but idk
im gonna hope we do something like that
hushed marsh
tbh im not exactly sure but the nets friend who told me that is smart, and fansp...
wait screenshot?
floral flume
screenshot what
hushed marsh
nah wed just do two mins after that imo
do you have a pic
of the trade machine
like what it said
floral flume
I deleted the tab lol, but if u go on fanspo and but roughly 30m of salary our way and Kuzma out
it worked
steady swift
Putting this here too:
Iâm now all in on a Herb Jones trade into the MLE.
Pelicans have an incentive to keep us competitive, since Atlanta now owns our 2026 pick swap with them. Everyone laughed at them after the draft bc we might suck. Giving us a good player in exchange for another pick actually makes sense for all parties
floral flume
how does trading into the MLE work
steady swift
Actual real life contenders are holding onto their picks against Giannis asks out, now is the perfect time for a sneaky trade
fallow flare
Players salary just needs to fit into the MLE total
hushed marsh
Players salary just needs to fit into the MLE total
yeah that makes sense
weak sierra
how does trading into the MLE work
It doesn't, and you can't.
hushed marsh
okay
like you're confident?
Because the new cba rules have no consistency across sources
weak sierra
The MLE is a concession the league makes to give teams under the apron flexibility to improve their team.
It does not function like true cap space in that it can absorb salary through trade.
hushed marsh
If somebody's contract fits entirely in the mle though?
weak sierra
Nope.
hushed marsh
okay
weak sierra
They'd have to be signed.
hushed marsh
but it works with free agents?
fallow flare
Everything I see says that is not correct and that it can be absorbed through a trade
hushed marsh
I.... Don't see why not
fallow flare
weak sierra
This something they changed in the last CBA?
hushed marsh
you seem pretty confident so I'll trust you
It's not like we're making the trades anyways
hexed compass
Pretty sure it changed in the newest CBA so you can take trades into the MLE now
fallow flare
Starting in July 2024, teams can use non-taxpayer or room mid-level and bi-annual exceptions to acquire a player via trade or waivers.
hushed marsh
Starting in July 2024, teams can use non-taxpayer or room mid-level and bi-annua...
ah
There we go
weak sierra
I'm reading that you need to be under the cap with the room exception to use it?
nvm, I stand corrected, looks like something they changed
hushed marsh
to use it in trades or use it in general?
floral flume
Starting in July 2024, teams can use non-taxpayer or room mid-level and bi-annua...
good stuff
hushed marsh
it's fine nobody knows all of this shit
fallow flare
Wait maybe herbs salary is too large
hushed marsh
prolly Adam silver doesn't even
fallow flare
Contracts can not be longer than two years, or worth more than $5 million in the first season.
Quoted from a cba article
So herb at 14ish wouldn't count then, but it sounds like it's possible to get some players using it but likely more complications?
steady swift
Iâm honestly confused. But we can do it without the MLE anyway
fallow flare
It would be even cooler to dump Kuz or Pat in a deal involving Herb, which would allow us to get the deal done and still have access to the MLE
steady swift
Kuzma for Claxton
Pat/Livingston for Herb
fallow flare
Pat/young guy/31 lotto protected for Herb, Kuzma for Wiggins, use partial mle on Cole Anthony and the majority of it on Ayton, resign Rollins and sims
Dame/Anthony/Rollins
GTJ/KPJ/AJG
Herb/AJax
Giannis/Wiggins
Ayton/Bobby/Sims
A guy can dream
hushed marsh
Kuzma for Claxton
Pat/Livingston for Herb
sure.
hushed marsh
Pat/young guy/31 lotto protected for Herb, Kuzma for Wiggins, use partial mle on...
I wanna keep our kpj/gtj/ajg/Giannis/bobby lineup starting next year tbh
hushed marsh
maybe a replacement for bobby
fallow flare
Adds solid guard depth, a reclamation project in Ayton, 1 elite wing defender and one solid all around wing
hushed marsh
I don't think we should gamble with trying ayton rn
we need pieces who are reliable
steady swift
floral flume
ayton is worth trying for imo
barren relic
nets need more in this trade
hushed marsh
not right now though
fallow flare
That was the scare with guys like bobby and KPJ. Bucks are a team of good dudes with their heads on straight and Giannis as a leader. Get him to be semi competent and it's a huge W
barren relic
i prefer clax over ayton
hushed marsh
"Bucks send Kuzma + 2030 FRP to nets. Nets send Claxton and seconds to Pacers. ...
I really liked this trade
weak sierra
If we gave up the 31 first for Claxton and Herb Jones I'd be irrate
steady swift
hushed marsh
That was the scare with guys like bobby and KPJ. Bucks are a team of good dudes ...
yeah but ayton also ain't reliable and doesn't seem like he's trying very much
barren relic
If we gave up the 31 first for Claxton and Herb Jones I'd be irrate
u dont think those 2 r good enough for us to make a run at a top 4 seed in the east ?
fallow flare
Lotto protected, could make it eventually convey into 2nds
steady swift
I donât feel like Ayton has the mentality to be a starter đ he can be the backup bigâŚ
hushed marsh
I donât feel like Ayton has the mentality to be a starter đ he can be the backu...
yeah I'd rather get a guy who can start for us tbh
we don't need another unreliable big
bobby and ayton is just
inconsistent and inconsistent
weak sierra
If I'm giving up the 31 first, it's going to be for an actual singular talent, not rotation players that don't let us unlock another tier
barren relic
Ayton is a no from me.
Blazers didnt even try to trade him.
just paid him to leave
finite coyote
If we gave up the 31 first for Claxton and Herb Jones I'd be irrate
what do u think the 31 is worth?
weak sierra
My goal is not a "run at a top 4 seed" I want long term projectable growth
steady swift
Ayton is a no from me.
Blazers didnt even try to trade him.
just paid him to lea...
They tried to trade him, but no one wanted his contract
finite coyote
like do u want an all star in return?
fallow flare
Ayton at 35 mil is disgusting, that's why a buyout was the only option
finite coyote
i dont think thats gonna happen
steady swift
Itâs really interesting tbh. Denver traded their final frp today for Cam Johnson lol
weak sierra
I'd have to be bowled over to include it before next offseason
barren relic
They tried to trade him, but no one wanted his contract
i didnt see/hear much on his trade front.
thought they were just done with him
hushed marsh
DENVER GOT CAM JOHNSON???
fallow flare
If Bane is fetching 4+ firsts how are we getting a star with 1
steady swift
i didnt see/hear much on his trade front.
thought they were just done with him
Reporters said it last night after the buyout
floral flume
DENVER GOT CAM JOHNSON???
for MPJ and their last tradeable FRP
weak sierra
Next offseason we'll have 2 1sts and a swap to include after the draft
hushed marsh
for MPJ and their last tradeable FRP
damn that's actually huge for them
steady swift
DENVER GOT CAM JOHNSON???
Yep. Sent MPJ and their unprotected 2030 frp to Brooklyn.
barren relic
i DONT care about that 2031 pick.
get me another Cship with Giannis.
i dont think that pick gets us an allstar player in return
hushed marsh
Huge win for Denver tbh
hushed marsh
i DONT care about that 2031 pick.
get me another Cship with Giannis.
i dont t...
again, I liked the turner trade, and it seemed realistic
weak sierra
like do u want an all star in return?
I view it as an asset as part of a larger package vs. trading for consolidation which feels like i'm not quite maximizing the asset
finite coyote
okok
barren relic
claxton + herb
are starters on 75% + teams in the nba
hushed marsh
"Bucks send Kuzma + 2030 FRP to nets. Nets send Claxton and seconds to Pacers. Pacers send Myles Turner to Bucks and maybe a contract like Obi or TJ to nets to duck the tax "
finite coyote
just guaging what people think the 31 is worth
barren relic
plus, they fit exactly what we need
finite coyote
i think its being overvalued
weak sierra
I don't even know if we can make a Herb Giannis pairing work from a spacing standpoint
barren relic
point Giannis, it can work.
if we ran NONdoc playbook, it can work
weak sierra
What gives us a better chance at obtaining a championship worthy asset, the 31 1st or the 31 1st, 32 swap, 33 first and salary filler?
fallow flare
I'm still on the Trey Murphy train, I think he is underrated and would be an elite #3
barren relic
i dont see teams giving up an allstar type player for picks 6 years from now
steady swift
just guaging what people think the 31 is worth
We got a reference tonight. Itâs worth Cam Johnson lol
finite coyote
right
weak sierra
It's more about giving myself options than it is the immediate value of the pick
finite coyote
kinda what we thought
steady swift
I'm still on the Trey Murphy train, I think he is underrated and would be an eli...
I know the Pelicans are dumb, but they canât be that dumb
finite coyote
would you have done that trade?
barren relic
I'm still on the Trey Murphy train, I think he is underrated and would be an eli...
$25,000,000 $27,000,000 $29,000,000 $31,000,000
barren relic
thats too much $ for Murphy, imo
fallow flare
$25,000,000 $27,000,000 $29,000,000 $31,000,000
Kuzma and TPE gets you there
weak sierra
if dame is healthy, the 31 is gone imo
That's a fair hypothesis
fallow flare
30 is nothing for an elite 3rd option
barren relic
i dont want big $ for that many years
steady swift
would you have done that trade?
Itâs rough. Maybe not bc we donât have a complete team yet. Denver added something to a team thatâs already mostly complete and battle-tested
hushed marsh
if dame is healthy, the 31 is gone imo
his surgery went well I heard. Does that mean he's back b4 the playoffs?
weak sierra
Kuzma and TPE gets you there
You can't add TPEs to player salaries to aggregate, that one I'm 150% on
fallow flare
Freaking Luke Kornet is making 8 figures
hushed marsh
How long does recovery normally take
finite coyote
his surgery went well I heard. Does that mean he's back b4 the playoffs?
doubt....
but maybe
fallow flare
You can't add TPEs to player salaries to aggregate, that one I'm 150% on
They can take Patty cakes
steady swift
Itâs possible but Iâm not expecting it
hushed marsh
I think there's a solid like 30% chance
maybe 25
Medicine and rehab are improving
and surgery went well allegedly
hushed marsh
i think the bigger concern is that he might never play the same again
fallow flare
What is the point of a trade exception if you can aggregate it though? Isn't that the whole idea of it? Genuine question I don't know the answer to
finite coyote
i think the bigger concern is that he might never play the same again
yep
he wont have that explosive first step
had a doc tell me he will never play again
so
who knows
floral flume
trade exception has never been able to be aggregated with other salary I think
finite coyote
hope for the best
hushed marsh
I hope he still has his shot
steady swift
What is the point of a trade exception if you can aggregate it though? Isn't tha...
We can get a player with 7.2m or less, without returning any salary to the other team
hushed marsh
had a doc tell me he will never play again
he ain't that old
finite coyote
doesnt matter
hushed marsh
really?
hushed marsh
is there something stopping him?
weak sierra
my concern is that he's a right handed player and that left leg is your explosive first step
floral flume
have NBA players always done this negative step now when driving, its what has torn lots of these achilles
I bet trainers will be heavily advising against it
weak sierra
A big piece of this is these low cut basketball shoes
weak sierra
high tops offer a legitimate improvement in achilles stability by about 10%
floral flume
where did u see that
hushed marsh
I woulda thought more tbh
weak sierra
No I believe yall, I mean the 10% im curious how they figured that out
Probably hook ya up to a bunch of machines and test the load and stretch, whatever else
floral flume
I think players would rather find another way to improve stability then wear high top shoes
we will see
hushed marsh
wonder if Adam silver will say something about it
steady swift
Maybe this is more reasonable https://fixupx.com/uncle__jrue/status/1939891790565306700?s=46&t=BnoeKt0WpxsWC7idHDs6rQ
steady swift
Pat to the Blazers for Timelord makes all the sense in the world. Especially if we donât really play him, and let others get minutes during the regular season lol. Pat goes back to his OG team and he can keep Jrue company, plus it helps the Blazers save money
steady swift
Tre Mann/KPJ/Rollins/Dame
AJ/GTJ
Herb Jones/Royce OâNeale/Taurean
Giannis/Bobby/Bogi
Claxton/Thomas Bryant/Sims
nvm I forgot Tyler đ
sturdy lake
Tre Mann/KPJ/Rollins/Dame
AJ/GTJ
Herb Jones/Royce OâNeale/Taurean
Giannis/Bobby/...
I woke up this morning fully convinced weâre going after Clax based on the Jim bomb lol
steady swift
I woke up this morning fully convinced weâre going after Clax based on the Jim b...
it really could be anything. iâm nervous!
restive barn
What if we go for Mo Wagner
weak sierra
I love mo wagner
Good player and if he's on your team you love him just bring under the skin of the other team
I'd much rather him than Ayton
restive barn
Agreed
But Iâd assume Magic want him back and can pay him more than us with the bird rights and all
steady swift
Yeah I expect him to return, the Magic are just in a numbers crunch right now
sturdy lake
Itâs been reported that heâs expected to be back in Orlando
steady swift
If we need to add salary to get the BAE and MLE back, I need the AJ and Rollins extension
then a trade
then signings
weak sierra
Yeah, we can't.
BAE is forfeited and the room exception has been used in all likelihood
floral flume
So spreading out 20m in hit over 5 years is nothing to glance over, this is the definition of all in for 1 year or two
Fire up the trade machines
And when it's over, fire up the selling player trade machines
floral flume
Yea pretty much
restive barn
Also saw a tweet that said we still need to shed like 5 mil to fully afford Turner
floral flume
I think a Pat shedding is happening today or tomorrow
weak sierra
Also saw a tweet that said we still need to shed like 5 mil to fully afford Turn...
Livingston and AJJ come pretty close to that at 4.4m
floral flume
Rollins / KPJ
Trent / Green
Kuzma / Prince
Giannis / Portis
Turner
Am I missing someone for our top 9 atm
restive barn
Gary Harris
steady swift
To fix synergy we need a fire/air sign PG
An actual SF thatâs a fire/air sign
And AJ needs to start over Gary
floral flume
I think Green will be starting over Trent eventually
restive barn
I think Green will be starting over Trent eventually
What if
Rollins, Trent, Green, Giannis, Turner
floral flume
That will be a fun 5 to watch
chrome knoll
kuminga
floral flume
No
steady swift
KPJ
AJ/GTJ/Gary Harris
Taurean/Tyler Smith
Giannis/Bobby/Kuzma
Turner/Sims
steady swift
Incoming trade will save us
Wait I forgot Gary Harris
The clear need is PG and SF
loud geode
If they can flip Kuz, I'll be pretty happy with the current squad.
loud geode
Herb?
steady swift
Herb or Trey
I think weâd get a trade exception if we went for Herb
Now Iâm wondering if our current trade exception is still viable
steady swift
No thank you
chrome knoll
what if we just employ giannis turner and 12 other sg's
chrome knoll
https://fixupx.com/C2_Cooper/status/1939518251530391990 point giannis better be able to unlock turner like hali did
FixupX
left grotto
That's good copium
35 attempts is nothing lol
And it's not like turner wasn't a shooter before haliburton got there
loud geode
loud geode
I could use a couple bucks if you're offering.
finite coyote
do we need a roster spot
floral flume
We only have minimums left
finite coyote
I could use a couple bucks if you're offering.
sparring with freshly woken up electro is a dangerous game
but ya, i got a buck with ur name on it
floral flume
Does this look right to everyone
It's missing Sims
Rollins
And Harris
So that's 14 players
We don't necessarily have to sign anyone else
But Livingston and or Ajax could go
chrome knoll
I think bogi is on the team
chrome knoll
Sorry I should say I think that he will be
loud geode
Considering the market for bigs? A deal.
loud geode
Stretch his salary.
chrome knoll
god that turner contract is cheap, no?
Yes but we pay dame 20/year for 5 years
finite coyote
i didnt know the new cba allowed for cut and stretch
we jon leuered him
and larry sandersed him
loud geode
They can stretch 15%?
floral flume
we eat some of that?
We have a ~20m cap hit for 5yrs
finite coyote
only 1 stretch at a time
floral flume
U can stretch upto 15% of the cap, Lillard takes 14.5%
finite coyote
and now i can enjoy bucks games in person next year
finite coyote
sell who
hardy maple
nahhh once we get trey whos on a 4 year contract just like turner we have that core locked up
silent lichen
Is it bad we have to pay dame 20M for 5 years
Or like is it ok
Is that what yall are talking abt rn
loud geode
If Jimmy Haslam wants to pay, go for it. Not my money.
steady swift
Rollins not signed yet
Wow. Bad timing on my part https://fixupx.com/chrisbhaynes/status/1940112839676764518?s=46&t=BnoeKt0WpxsWC7idHDs6rQ
loud geode
Oh shit.
chrome knoll
He got paid somewhere then
loud geode
Now they definitely need another PG.
finite coyote
yep
weak sierra
Ah thats a bummer.
How far off was our cap number for Turner, I thought 5? Which would mean the Pat deal isn't enough without trimming both CL and AJJ or another move
steady swift
Cap experts saying we might sign Rollins to the vet min
chrome knoll
Was our QO 5.9 for Rollins? Was that a 2 year offer?
weak sierra
QO was 2.2m but there's nothing stopping us from just giving him a minimum deal
The caphold in the general channel is a fair callout to clear a bit more for Turner
hushed marsh
I think Green will be starting over Trent eventually
Green at the 3
left grotto
What's the difference between RR on a QO vs vet min?
floral flume
The jumbo lineup featuring Giannis Turner and Bobby, I'm in
floral flume
What's the difference between RR on a QO vs vet min?
What ru referring to with RR
left grotto
What ru referring to with RR
Ryan Rollins
floral flume
Oh the main benefit there is what Skones just referred to I believe, he was counting against the cap with the QO, rescinding it helps sign Turner
Then sign Rollins afterwards
weak sierra
What's the difference between RR on a QO vs vet min?
They're the same, only him being unrestricted doesn't count against the cap.
QO does. We can basically pay him the same as the QO to return and open the space for Turner. A have your cake and eat it too move.
finite coyote
The jumbo lineup featuring Giannis Turner and Bobby, I'm in
brook gone bro
u mean bob?
finite coyote
KPJ, Kuz, Bob, G, Turner
steady swift
Iâm still trying to learn whoâs on the damn team
finite coyote
big boy lineup
floral flume
Peep the first thing ever posted to this channel
steady swift
Giannis/Bobby
Turner/Sims
So many options
finite coyote
PG: KPJ, Micic?, spears, ajax
SG: GTJ, AJ Green, Harris, Ajax
SF: kuzma, prince, livingston
PF: giannis, bobby, smith, bogo
C: Turner, sims, nance
something like that
steady swift
Ajax, Livingston, and Kuzma should start packing
floral flume
I really doubt Micic stays
finite coyote
Peep the first thing ever posted to this channel
yeah, i knew
steady swift
Another bucks pick to add to the collection
They desperately need defense (Ajax)
Kuzma⌠idk
floral flume
Herb Jones is defense exemplified
steady swift
Dumars traded our pick swap with us to Atlanta, they need us to be competitive so Atlanta doesnât get a lottery pick
loud geode
Also, NOLA has a new GM and a franchise star who is sinking rapidly. Hopefully, they're just desperate enough.
steady swift
Their GM is highly questionable
floral flume
Dumars traded our pick swap with us to Atlanta, they need us to be competitive s...
atlanta will just get the pelicans pick
pelicans were always going to be worse than us
steady swift
National media said otherwise
floral flume
we all know how smart national media is
steady swift
âIf Giannis leaves, that could be a lottery pick for Atlanta! đ¤â
floral flume
the they need us to be competitive is worthless, theyll be getting Pelicans pick
hushed marsh
I mean sure but we need to fill roster spots, right?
floral flume
wdym
barren relic
use fanspo, u can include picks
we dont have any picks left đ
floral flume
yea we do
2031 FRP and 2032 swap
and u can adjust protections on fanspo
@steady swift nance to cleveland
steady swift
I fell to my knees.
floral flume
Considering he's 21 and signed for a while
Would have to be included in a larger deal
finite coyote
barren relic
Would have to be included in a larger deal
they have some SFs already.
if we have anything to entice them, or $ they wanna get out of.
they can have KK back đ
steady swift
Just saw someone mention DeâAaron Fox.
Would be a great Astro fit. Idk about the lack of shooting tho
We also donât have the salary
chrome knoll
AJ is third in line behind tp and kuz
weak sierra
That Pat deal makes the Kuzma deal a lot less flexible in trade, options are far more limited
barren relic
That Pat deal makes the Kuzma deal a lot less flexible in trade, options are far...
kk + livingstons 2.3$m
hushed marsh
i hope we do later at least
sturdy lake
Donât care who starts as long as theyâre closing majority of the time
floral flume
The logic should be give Kuzma a chance early in the year to start
And if it doesn't work out try the two splash brothers
hushed marsh
no no no
if we give him a chance doc needs "continuity" and we won't change it ever
finite coyote
Just saw someone mention DeâAaron Fox.
Would be a great Astro fit. Idk about th...
aqua dagger 2.0
steady swift
aqua dagger 2.0
ehhhh
finite coyote
I don't think we are starting Trent and Green day 1 fellas
one of AJG and GTJ has to start
steady swift
Tre Mann
AJ
?
Giannis
Turner
finite coyote
is tre mann in the vet min convo now
floral flume
one of AJG and GTJ has to start
yea but not both day 1
barren relic
yea but not both day 1
Disagree
Day 1,
Power lineup
Kpj gtj ajg G Mt
Bench:
Harris, Ajax, Prince, Kk, BP, Sims
hushed marsh
Kpj gtj ajg G Mt
thank you so much this is perfection
floral flume
thats what I want to happen, im saying I dont think it will happen
hushed marsh
except you forgot bobby
floral flume
I think Kuzma starts day 1
finite coyote
you know doc is just gonna fuck with lineups until All star break
hushed marsh
oh nvm you didn't forget bobby
finite coyote
he will never be happy
hushed marsh
he will never be happy
he likes AJ allegedly
finite coyote
well now he does
after he went off at the end of the year
remember the beginning of the year?
hushed marsh
imagine how good AJ has to be for him to get doc to play him
finite coyote
he couldnt make a bucket
sturdy lake
mid season unplayable AJ green 2025-2025 đ
finite coyote
right
hushed marsh
what
finite coyote
he played his way out, i think he had a nagging injury
hushed marsh
this can't be true
finite coyote
then played his way back in
hushed marsh
my goat would never be unplayable
hushed marsh
he played his way out, i think he had a nagging injury
OHHHH that thing
sturdy lake
For a little bit he was looking at 0 playoff mins
hushed marsh
that was cuz of an injury though
finite coyote
availability is a skill
hushed marsh
took him a little while to find his shot coming off I think it was a shoulder injury, right?
to be expected
or maybe it was his legs I don't remember
sour dome
We donât gotta worry about this now
left grotto
I kinda don't think we are trading the frp and kuzma anymore
Feel like they'd rather wait until next summer when we get to trade '33 also
loud geode
Please don't burst my bubble.
steady swift
Next year is too late imo, bc the roster is getting torn down by summer 2027
floral flume
I'd rather spread our chances over 2 seasons with decent odds twice, then treat this season as purely gear up for higher odds in 1 season
What do u guys think
steady swift
use the 2031 frp now
save 2032 swap and 2033 frp for next year
and like Daqa said in general, thereâs a chance the Pelicans give us our 2027 frp back in a trade
floral flume
If u take Kuzma to be gone with the 2031
Who is being attached to 2032 and 33 next year
Where's da salary coming from
steady swift
Like who?
floral flume
That's a good point ig
U don't know who will be available in a year
Could be good could be bad
steady swift
I kinda think it would be DeâAaron but idek
floral flume
Yea I think he'd be attainable next year with what we have
steady swift
Spurs would just trade our picks back for Giannis in 1-2 years đ¤
loud geode
Are the Spurs wanting for picks?
floral flume
They have 3 guards who will want to start
loud geode
Don't they still have a bunch?
finite coyote
does anyone even wanna think about 2027 yet
loud geode
Hell no.
finite coyote
might need a new thread for that lmao
floral flume
We were talking abt what we do with 31 32 and 33
steady swift
does anyone even wanna think about 2027 yet
Iâll be the tank commander my damn self
steady swift
https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-let-him-cook-cook-cooking-breaking-bad-gif-2...
I just donât know how to make the salary work.
Spurs are gonna move Fox eventually imo, itâs just awks bc he requested to go there and is supposed to get an extension this summer
floral flume
I just donât know how to make the salary work.
Spurs are gonna move Fox eventua...
Kuzma and BP does it
Remember this is my dream IF Kuzma doesn't get moved right now
finite coyote
We were talking abt what we do with 31 32 and 33
31frp and 32 swap, packaged with kuz at deadline to a desperate team, gives us who?
steady swift
Itâs still gonna be Herb/RJ lmao, Kuzma alone isnât a lot of salary
finite coyote
Someone a solid tier below maybe
need a solid caliber PG
floor general
kpj is too combo guard
floral flume
barren relic
need a solid caliber PG
Only if G allows it
And if he don't wanna set screens, then just keep getting combo guards
steady swift
Letâs hope the Spurs sign Fox to a contract with a cheaper AAV
Just had a vision of G joining the Rockets in two years to replace KD
loud geode
Not you, xoxo. Please not you.
tawdry dome
i don't really get the worry about needing another PG, more than Rollins and KPJ
loud geode
If he comes back, then yeah, no other PG needed.
tawdry dome
the QO was relinquished just to free up cap space enough to lock in Turner
steady swift
Not you, xoxo. Please not you.
Weâre blowing it up in 2027
So why canât I think about those picks lol
And Amen
tawdry dome
we aren't going to blow it up in 2027, I promise you
the only reason you make these moves is to build a new contending window
while Giannis is still in his prime
steady swift
Time to look at 2027 free agents then
barren relic
I dont want Fox
barren relic
Weâre blowing it up in 2027
Yes, this and I agree
barren relic
Time to look at 2027 free agents then
Lots of OLDS
BP and G,
Become FAs, temporarily.
While we sign 2 MAX FAs.
loud geode
Well, I can see where the lines of the Buckscord 2027 Civil War will be drawn.
barren relic
Then G signs.
And BP hopes for someone to pay him more, or just returns
tawdry dome
we don't on our own picks for a long time, there's no reason to do a teardown
tawdry dome
I guess we have different definitions of blowing it up
finite coyote
agree
tawdry dome
yeah exactly
loud geode
And that's why you're a real one.
finite coyote
we still have to convince giannis to sign his extension