#Offseason Talk
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im in agreement, that we should draft a big. even 2 bigs
these are all the PFs and Cs
i highlighted the guys i like
filipowski, misi, ware, holmes
i like more/most
if we get 2 of them, id actually b really excited
throwback to when we picked thon instead of bam https://youtu.be/PxpO8P6cydg
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id do it again
i told Bucks fans, Thon would b lucky to reach Ersan level.
and they were so mad at me
age + experience + bball knowledge
im also adament that Skiles ruined Joe Alexander
😆
we could have drafted brook
8 bucks legends
half the lottery
also,
ibaka, hill, in the 1st round
bayless
that's some gangsta shit from the bucks
yea, and bayless, dj.
as soon as they all got off rookie contracts and sucked, hammond scooped em up
ibaka went 24th
hill 26th
Moute 37th
GREAT pick by Bucks
cdr 40th
one of my faves
goran dragic 45th
darnell jackson 52nd
wow, Bucks LOVED the 2008 draft
W
nba draft lottery is on sunday.
doesnt really affect the Bucks tho
Bucks n23 + n33
yellow is who i want.
blue, id b ok with.
Meh this year's draft sucks
20+
Is usually just benches and guys out of the league in a few years
You never know... we might hit jackpot 😄
Silva has gained in the rankings, looks like most have him going in the teens
let's pray Portland gets a good pick
as thanks for not making us give their second rounder back for dame lol
I would love Ware on the Bucks but also am pretty high on Kolek
Latest ringer draft has us taking Daron at 23 and Mark Sears at 33
Idk much about Mark but he fits the bill as an upperclassman guard, he’s tiny as hell though
2024 NBA Draft date/time:
Round 1
Wednesday, June 26, 2024, 8pm ET (5pm PT)
Round 2
Thursday, June 27, 2024, 8pm ET (5pm PT)
he was making 9.5$m.
unless he got old fast or had a horrible season, i dont see him accepting 4$m from the Bucks
Damn, Daron Holmes seems to be showing out at the draft combine, hopefully he’s still gettable
Can we get edey
i dont want him. and lots of fans are 50/50 love hate opinion of him
in all of the mocks, i dont see him higher than 14. but as low as 36ish
n23 & n33
6 teams got worse positions, with DET getting screwed the most
atl and bkn had huge jumps
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only 1 guy of these 4 has their order updated.
but, its still a good idea of the order or value of players
Feel like edey could learn a lot from lopez
with the modern nba, i think hes too slow
Isn't lopez slow as well
Fair
Brook gotta teach him how to shoot first
Who would you rather see the bucks draft?
#1239677312274923663
Zack is like a baby Yao Ming
Thoughts on patrick williams?
He’s like, a replacement level frontcourt guy, I wouldn’t give anything major up for him
I actually think he can really flourish in the right environment
But I don’t think that’s us
i think he would fit well and that we can definitely obtain him for a cheap price
I rechecked his stats and calling him replacement level was probably a little mean, he’s got a decent three ball for a 4
Still he’s the kinda player that’s always going to be in conflict with Giannis for minutes if he was on the Bucks
Only way to get FAs is by vet/league minimum $
i think im good with brining back most of the team for next season.
i know some fans wanna trade Pat and/or Bobby.
but, im good with keeping things the same.
theres 3 spots open for FAs.
so, whatever best vet/cheap FA we can get, im gonna b understanding and fine with
dame, FA, FA
green, pat, marjon
midds, ajax, livingston
G, FRP, SRP
brook, bobby, FA
im good with this.
Yeah malik gonna get a decent offer sadly
Pat was the only guy that really disappointed me all year
he should take highest offer of $
yea, it was a down year for him.
but,
we did start to see him do some dribble drives and handle the ball.
things he usually doesnt do.
so, hopefully that makes him a bit more dynamic next season
IF Marjon does anything, at least that will push Pat or if marjon is decent, bump pat down the list
He most likely will.
Ayo we could sign Buddy hield now
And Demar Derozan is a free agent this year
For clarification going forward: As it stands, the Bucks can only offer veteran minimum deals ($2-4 million depending on service time).
DeMar DeRozan is going to get $30M+, most likely.
yea we arent gettin any of those dudes
gotta find some guys who are willing to 1. do a prove it year min vet deal (like beasley last year) 2. want a ring (which usually means they are older, washed...)
Thanks.
When I say it, they don't believe me. 😆
Just saw warriors fans wanting to trade for giannis
Tbf who doesn't
Mans not leaving tho
Also they wanted to get for him moody kuminga wiggins and 3 swap picks💀
Wiggins would be nice on a vet min
I'm a lauri markkenen enjoyer. Future buck 😉😉😉😉 pls horst cook this off season 🙏
Lmaoo they really tried that move ? Ahhaa no way giannis is ver leaving Milwaukee. He's too happy here
Nah ofc they didn't its just the fans
Well idk tbh but cmon now nobody would take that deal
Fax ahah it has to be some kinda joke
Rumors alway come up bug end up being so wrong
People are just bored since thier team isn't in the playoffs they like to create rumors and wishful trades lol
kris dunn???
yes.
i think theres 3 PGs that we could get with the minimum $
Lonnie Walker, Kris Dunn, Dennis Smith Jr
dsj would be really nice if he could stay healthy
I'll settle for Holiday (either one), Wesley Matthews (even if he's old), and Delon Wright
i never liked the other Holidays. but, if thats whos left, then fine.
Delon Wright, would also b a nice get.
Wes, if he wants to mentor, and play randomly or not at all.
all of the "good" teams, can only offer vet minimum, league minimum, or MLE.
its turning into, the 5 starters all get paid 20 to 40$m.
3 vets
3 rookie deals
2 mle
and some leftover $ before the new rules
delon was a solid role player in the playoffs. not sure if i see him leaving the heat for us tho but he would be nice
Is it realistic we take jevon back? 😭
hes making too much
Kostas Antetokounmpo for 3rd Center
idk how that works, if ur signed for a euro team
usually, theres "outs" in ur contract, to come to the nba
how tall is kostas
6'10"? still growing?
hes 26
so doubtful
alex 6'8", 22 y/o
i think 6'10 or 11
Panathinaikos/Euroball has Kostas at 6'9
Kostas can b our new 15th man
the VIBES
think of the VIBES
Being Giannis’s brother isn’t the only reason Thanasis gets a roster spot. I don’t know if Kostas brings all the off the court stuff Thanasis does
kostas brings little bro energy
He looked to be at eye level with his brother, no?
Here’s a question for you all: would you trade #23 and #33 for the Magic’s #18 and #47
Kel’el Ware, Tristan da Silva, Devin Carter
would have to see how things shake out a bit
Fringe lottery guys that could fall
i would.... take the risk idk'
I’m skeptical of the idea that we could find a Brook replacement in the draft… but if there was a Brook replacement in this draft, it’s probably Kel’el
Probably not, for me.
I think the bigs r going to slide.
And we will b able to get 2 that we like/r decent.
I think the n33 guy, is going to b just as good as n23 guy.
From 20 to 35 or so, all of those guys r rated about the same.
If we pick the right guys, we can find some rotational pieces
Getting 2 guys also has the added benefit of those 2 guys having healthy competition for minutes and making each other better
Yes… it really seems like there’s a massive talent difference between guys in the late teens vs early 20s
maybe this year will be different but I wouldn’t take the chance
Also, Kostas is 7-feet tall now.
Brook Lopez was a lottery pick, No. 10 overall. Then an all-star scoring big. Then an all-defensive team stretch big.
There are no "Brook replacements" in this draft and there are few doing what he's doing in the NBA.
That said -- I think if you're looking to have a drafted big, the emphasis will not be on shooting -- think of strong screeners and more dedicated rim runners/finishers at the rim (along with the rim protection).
As far as “Brook replacement” goes, I’m more interested in a guy who can be a bench guy and comes in and does what Brook does. For years our only bench big has been Bobby, who is a very different player than Brook. I think it’d be a good idea to have a big body center who can contribute like 8-10 minutes a game for rotation flexibility reasons at least
Same thing Celtics do with Al Horford, have a few bench bigs (Kornet, Tillman) to lighten his load
Exactly, I really don’t think Kel’el is a true Brook replacement, more making the argument that if there was a needle in the haystack in this draft, that Kel’el would be the needle
Honestly I’d hear the argument that Edey was the needle as well
We could get Kevon Looney after Warriors release him
The NBA doesn't just "release" players as their contracts are guaranteed. Looney is under contract for two more seasons.
Kevon Looney will likely be released by the Warriors to save money on their tax bill, per @timkawakami (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/warriors-plus-minus-a-show-about-the-golden-state-warriors/id1147910296).
Only $3 million of Looney’s $8 million salary is guaranteed until it fully locks in on June 24.
If Looney is released, expect ple...
vet minimum, IF, we dont draft 2 bigs.
id b fine with that.
but, he has really slowed.
Just read up on it, this is just some speculation by some radio guy
Ah - there's some context there than just saying released on the June 24 deadline of the full $8M guaranteed. It was a smart compromised added in by Looney's agent, so he couldn't be traded on draft night(s). Still interesting they'd rather cut him and pay roughly $9M in a tax bill than try to move his $8M in a trade (which they probably could).
He's the kind of guy I think Rivers was talking about in terms of the 28-year-old veteran as opposed to assuming he needs to play a "young guy."
But remember - the Bucks are only in the hunt for minimums. Looney feels like a minimum guy at this point, but all it takes is one...
Nah, Tim is pretty good. And in fairness, the Warriors are very good at getting messages out. They likely let this slip so a market could build early for their guy.
Pretty sure we're targetting marcus smart
imo trade malik and crowder for better scoring option
yeah
bc our salary cap is limiting trades
what do you think is more beneficial to the team though
smart or caruso
They’re not vet min guys
without getting a FRP back
unless smart gets cut and goes for a vet min
idk
im 99% sure
our roster is mostly set barring any huge surprising trades
all we are going to do is fill up the rest of the roster with vet mins and draftees
mhm
!picks
Well it wouldn't hurt to catch looney on a minimum contract
Or a mid level contract
But he's kindof a veteran
And we have Brook, Giannis Dame and both Pat's
There is no midlevel available.
But to the broader point, Looney would be the "young" veteran Rivers mentioned in his end-of-year presser. He'll be 29 in season. Lot of minutes on those legs, but in a reserve role I imagine he's got more in the tank than the 34-38 year olds the Bucks have cycled through the last four seasons...
Seems like the type of guy who would also be a great locker room addition at the same time.
1000%.
Definitely
Looney really has not been himself since the championship season, if the Bucks were to sign him I’d be curious about his health
Physical or mental?
I’m pretty sure it’s physical, he doesn’t have the speed and bounce he did a couple years ago
I heard about this proposed one from a kings fan second hand and decided to check if it was good
Davion could be swapped for Sasha Vezenkov since he's asking for a trade as well
Vezenkov for Pat is much more 1:1 trade
basically Bucks move up/down and get into a position where there's a chance they could slide under the second apron, for Davion, who's been completely eclipsed by Keon Ellis for minutes and impact, but should fit in well here, given how much we love pesty guards
Kings get Pat, a reliable shooter who can defend bigger guys, basically insurance for if they lose or need to trade someone like Barnes or Huerter
i wouldnt do this if im the Kings
id rather trade Davion for 2 future 2nds
I’m confused as to why the Kings would do this tbh
Even more surprised it came from a Kings fan
That actually makes sense
It fits for the Kings and the Bucks
Bucks legit need a pesky defender
Kings need a half-consistent shooter to go with Murray
And pat is genuinely a great offensive rebounder for his size
But what does Vezenkov offer?
So you can negotiate with your own players but can’t announce it until the 30th?
From what I interpret, I just don’t think the the team/player/agent themselves can announce it
But someone like Woj could, I could be completely wrong though
Yeah cause Windy said the other day that we’ll start hearing announcements as soon as the finals are over
I need to start seeing something from some team haha. Feed me more basketball
Any news about any free agency potential deals?
JVGundy is top assistant at the clips now
Idk if it’s going to be very loud for us until the draft
Brook or PatBev extension at most, and I expect that to come later
Maybe brook goes on a vet extension
Or plays off the bench and doc runs the offense thru him
He’s got one year at like 25 mil
Hes a good scorer if you give him the chance
Brook we need u this year step up brotha
He’s good at a lot of stuff when he’s not taking the brunt of everyone else’s issues
AGs weird schemes and the perimeter not being defended
It's just that he sacrificed so muc since his injury
And since he's getting older and g is getting better and better
In Brooklyn he was the man #1
He also just gives and gives
Like there’s only one game this season where you felt like he wasn’t in it 100%
Yeah the fac the his still an elite rim protector at his age and after his injury is actually commendable
He can space the floor and is a threat to all bigs as he outweighs almost all bigs too
Strong as a mountain splash as a waterfall
There shouldn't be any until the 30th. Unless you're talking about other team's own free agents re-signing. Or the Bucks re-signing Malik Beasley. Which I don't think would happen before the 30th...
Good to know, thank you ! 🙂
Eager to see what will become of the bucks in 2025-25
$23*
Over-38 rules definitely apply to any future Brook Lopez contracts here or otherwise, but really don't think any extensions are being done by the Bucks this summer....
Brook
Brook's o is decent
It's just that when Giannis is out
The entire defensive scheme falls on him
And he has to kind of connect the offense
Which is tough for him when he's used to Giannis doing that
!smash
!smash
damn
!fuckyou2
I want Kel’el simply cause of his name
Will be spamming this every time he messes up
This is already hilarious
He does have a fire name
I hope you guys are smart enough to realize you can’t have like 5 players fully in rotation getting big minutes that are in their first, second and third years
For a championship or bust team
You can have like one or two at most
You guys seem to want MarJon, Ajax, AJ Green, the two guys we draft this year, even Livingston, all to get serious minutes. At most we’re getting AJ Green + one of MarJon or Ajax
Who is saying that
Why do I feel like I did something wrong lol
I think the general vibe among everyone who plays actual attention is that it’ll be nice to be able to turn those guys into rotation players that can continue to grow
Me want Moses moody from GS
Not you, I’ve just seen a general sentiment
Like “AJ will be our starting SG, MarJon and Ajax will be the first ones off the bench, let’s draft a big that’ll be the backup to Brook/replace Brook” etc
It’s not happening
That’s at least 4 very young guys very high in the rotation tree
¯_(ツ)_/¯
There’s more delusional shit being said in here 
But it’s nice to see them putting in the work in Greece right now
Except AJ where’s that guy
Yeah don’t get me wrong, I want to see them be great
I just don’t see ALL of them reaching that
And maybe they will and prove me wrong, I’d love to eat my words
They’re great kids who are putting in the work
Wasn’t he at the Brewers game the other day
I saw a picture of him posted by the official page in their gear
Yeah he threw out the first pitch
It was rhetorical
He didn’t go to Greece last year either
This will be enough. Hoping at least one if not two or three of these guys can play more meaningful and extended minutes
I mean Green and Jackson Jr was already getting meaningful minutes last year
In a playoff series at that (although Giannis being out might have affected Jackson minutes)
I have very high hopes for Ajax, but for those hopes to be realized, he needs to fix a giant hole in his game, which is his inability to look at the basket with the ball
He can’t drive to the basket, he can’t shoot pull up etc, he can not do anything with the ball in a half court setting other than make skip passes and that limits him a lot. In a playoff setting, opponents will slow the pace down and force him to handle the ball
I think he's very gun shy. Not only that he is very selfless with the ball as he looks to pass it instead of creating his shots. His decision making is very questionable at times but the raw talent and athletic abilities is there. Give him some time he'll develop into his roll .
As for marjon, he's isn't even given an opportunity with the coach change and all. He's hasn't really gotten better since last year either but this year we will see how he develops with Doc and his crew
I think beyond that, there’s also the fact that you can’t escape which is that he is atrocious at driving to the rim and finishing through contact
That too lol. Main reason is his poor decision making lol
Hes got the size why u scared boy lol
Well he’s not scared, he just doesn’t have the touch around the rim
The main rookie/young player narrative I would like to push back on is the idea that Doc didn’t play them enough. AJ and Ajax got legit playoff minutes, I’m not sure what else people wanted
Ajax was one of a few rookies to be used in the playoffs at all
I believe doc will play them plenty next season cuz the timing when doc came, the bucks were is a weird situation to begin with so I get why they barely played during the season
Wasn’t Ajax top 5 in playoff rookie minutes?
And Green had even more
I think Klay Thompson would fit well with Nuggets.
He can come off the bench and slap the lakers again
😅
I doubt the nuggets can afford him but I have no idea
But that would be an awesome addition if you’re the nuggets
Yeah, he'd be playing like Caldwell Pope
I guess mostly in the reg season before we were all injured and were forced to use them. We went from griffin giving them too much playing time to doc giving them very limited minutes if any
Lol the raptors want bronny 🤣
What do y'all think about Brook to the rockets
For Tari Eason and Steve-O
houston nearly signed brook last season
brook can be their final step in atleast making playoffs
steve o can provide athleticism, strength and rebounding
and eason just sounds like a good ending piece
Or
Waht about Brook and chris livingston to the kings
for
Davion mithcell and harrison barnes
This would shift giannis to being center ful time
Barnes would fit perfectly between giannis and khris
He is versatile as he can switch through positions
Mitchell is a defensive minded combo guard
he can play alongised dame or as a backup guard
Who wanted to see pat bev start anyway
And either way mitchell's defense would atleast boost ours a bit
Lol the rockets are really trying to aquire KD and Jimmy Butler lmaoo
Some good stuff from Jim in here
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Bobby is extension eligible this off season but as of right now there has been no talk of an extension from the org
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If the bucks move Brook, they’d be looking for a high level rim protector, rim runner and good screening big
Quoting JSOnline - Bucks (@js_bucks)
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The Bucks should add Monty Williams to the coaching staff
So, Bobby has sign and trade potential?
Can't aggregate salaries.
Doesn't help the Bucks win the '24-25 championship as I can tell...
No. Bucks not allowed to sign and trade a player.
True haha
Eh, I just felt like bringing in these small pieces would contirbute to winning
Steve-O for rebounding and size down low
Like imagine Giannis and Dame playing with a legendary screener, that would literally unlock a new "dimension" of bucks basketball
Eason's main appeal is his defensive upside
Blocking 1.1 shots a game, and 1.9 steals a game
Seems to be a decent rebounder, averaging 7 a game
Which is quite good for 6'8
Sure, his offense clashes with Giannis as he is a downhill attacker who thrives in transition
And my favorite part is that this was his second season and he looks so much matured, a lil bit more exp could do a whole lot for us
Oh and to add to aquaman, he has great defensive instincts
And I selfishly wanted to see some physical presence for the bucks 😂 😂
Wait I just realized after watching his reel
Eason's athleticism is out of this world
Vertically and laterally, and he has sneaky athleticism too
This is assuming he can A) even play and B) be anything resembling what you're talking about
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I think the Bucks would have to feel REAL good about a 100% recovery.
I guess for me, I think the Bucks are looking for 'certainty' in any returns for their remaining championship core.
Alright, agreed on that one
Delon wright, not mad at that
Quick guard n amazing defense
kinda what we need
A few teams are trying to get him
📠
His value price ratio is really good
Anybody like JT Thor?
No
Why?
He’s not a good basketball player
He doesn’t really fit us
He’s basically a worse Khris
Without the on court leadership traits of Khris
We dont want demar
If front office does any moves to get grant williams I'll be happy af!
Our bench will be full of Dawgs. Pat bev bobby and grant williams 🔥 lock down defense
Please horst if you are in the chat get grant williams 🙏
I don’t think either grant or pat bev will be on the team my friend
lol Pat Bev is not on the bucks this year
Skull 💀
Ans crossbones
Ashes
Tomb
Grave
🤬🤬🤬🤮🤮🤮
Funeral
I hate Bev
And I don't want Grant.
Keep the Aholes and bad vibes people away from our team
No
What people don’t get is that while PJ was a dawg and Bobby is dawg, they’re also good people and fund to hang around with. Good locker room guys.
And also where is this notion that Grant Williams is a dawg coming from
He’s always been a lame
yall know he's trolling right
Hard to tell with that one