#Offseason Talk

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half vigil
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and we already have drafted marjon and andre for these needs, even livingston. i want a 7 footer

astral galleon
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these are all the PFs and Cs

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i highlighted the guys i like

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filipowski, misi, ware, holmes
i like more/most

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if we get 2 of them, id actually b really excited

half vigil
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throwback to when we picked thon instead of bam https://youtu.be/PxpO8P6cydg

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hardy temple
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id do it again

astral galleon
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i told Bucks fans, Thon would b lucky to reach Ersan level.
and they were so mad at me

hardy temple
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xepno how are you right ALL THE TIME

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AMAZING

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GM XEPNO NOW

astral galleon
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age + experience + bball knowledge

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im also adament that Skiles ruined Joe Alexander

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😆

hardy temple
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well

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that was like 20 years ago

astral galleon
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2008 ?
or 2009

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2008

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we didnt take Brook, cause we had Bogut

hardy temple
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we could have drafted brook

half vigil
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8 bucks legends

hardy temple
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twin towers

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we could have drafted bayless

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or even robin lopez

astral galleon
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beasley, mayo, danilo, joe, brook, robin

half vigil
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half the lottery

astral galleon
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also,
ibaka, hill, in the 1st round

hardy temple
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bayless

half vigil
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that's some gangsta shit from the bucks

hardy temple
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dj was a buck

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thats 8

astral galleon
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yea, and bayless, dj.

hardy temple
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as soon as they all got off rookie contracts and sucked, hammond scooped em up

astral galleon
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ibaka went 24th

hill 26th

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Moute 37th
GREAT pick by Bucks

cdr 40th
one of my faves

goran dragic 45th

darnell jackson 52nd

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wow, Bucks LOVED the 2008 draft

ripe matrix
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W

astral galleon
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nba draft lottery is on sunday.
doesnt really affect the Bucks tho

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Bucks n23 + n33

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yellow is who i want.
blue, id b ok with.

cinder haven
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Meh this year's draft sucks

astral galleon
ripe matrix
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You never know... we might hit jackpot 😄

astral galleon
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Silva has gained in the rankings, looks like most have him going in the teens

jaunty dagger
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let's pray Portland gets a good pick

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as thanks for not making us give their second rounder back for dame lol

spark needle
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I would love Ware on the Bucks but also am pretty high on Kolek

jaunty dagger
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Latest ringer draft has us taking Daron at 23 and Mark Sears at 33

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Idk much about Mark but he fits the bill as an upperclassman guard, he’s tiny as hell though

astral galleon
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2024 NBA Draft date/time:

Round 1
Wednesday, June 26, 2024, 8pm ET (5pm PT)
Round 2
Thursday, June 27, 2024, 8pm ET (5pm PT)

rose maple
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We should sign Royce O neale

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He's a free agent this offseason

astral galleon
jaunty dagger
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Damn, Daron Holmes seems to be showing out at the draft combine, hopefully he’s still gettable

chilly wedge
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Can we get edey

astral galleon
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in all of the mocks, i dont see him higher than 14. but as low as 36ish

chilly wedge
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Whats our pick?

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20ish? I can't really remember

astral galleon
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n23 & n33

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6 teams got worse positions, with DET getting screwed the most

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atl and bkn had huge jumps

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only 1 guy of these 4 has their order updated.
but, its still a good idea of the order or value of players

chilly wedge
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Feel like edey could learn a lot from lopez

astral galleon
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with the modern nba, i think hes too slow

chilly wedge
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Isn't lopez slow as well

astral galleon
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and how will Giannis and Edey going to play together ?

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neither can shoot

chilly wedge
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Fair

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Brook gotta teach him how to shoot first

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Who would you rather see the bucks draft?

hardy temple
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#1239677312274923663

ripe matrix
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Zack is like a baby Yao Ming

atomic dagger
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Thoughts on patrick williams?

jaunty dagger
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He’s like, a replacement level frontcourt guy, I wouldn’t give anything major up for him

empty hill
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I actually think he can really flourish in the right environment

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But I don’t think that’s us

atomic dagger
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i think he would fit well and that we can definitely obtain him for a cheap price

jaunty dagger
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I rechecked his stats and calling him replacement level was probably a little mean, he’s got a decent three ball for a 4

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Still he’s the kinda player that’s always going to be in conflict with Giannis for minutes if he was on the Bucks

empty hill
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He can get play the 3 I think

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Or small ball 4 when Giannis is at the 5

astral galleon
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Only way to get FAs is by vet/league minimum $

astral galleon
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i think im good with brining back most of the team for next season.

i know some fans wanna trade Pat and/or Bobby.

but, im good with keeping things the same.

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theres 3 spots open for FAs.
so, whatever best vet/cheap FA we can get, im gonna b understanding and fine with

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dame, FA, FA

green, pat, marjon

midds, ajax, livingston

G, FRP, SRP

brook, bobby, FA

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im good with this.

atomic dagger
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Yeah malik gonna get a decent offer sadly

empty hill
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Pat was the only guy that really disappointed me all year

astral galleon
astral galleon
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IF Marjon does anything, at least that will push Pat or if marjon is decent, bump pat down the list

forest umbra
rose maple
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Ayo we could sign Buddy hield now

rose maple
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And Demar Derozan is a free agent this year

forest umbra
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DeMar DeRozan is going to get $30M+, most likely.

hardy temple
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yea we arent gettin any of those dudes

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gotta find some guys who are willing to 1. do a prove it year min vet deal (like beasley last year) 2. want a ring (which usually means they are older, washed...)

astral galleon
hardy temple
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we've been saying this since last year lol

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people thinking they are nba2k GMs

chilly wedge
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Just saw warriors fans wanting to trade for giannis

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Tbf who doesn't

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Mans not leaving tho

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Also they wanted to get for him moody kuminga wiggins and 3 swap picks💀

atomic dagger
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Wiggins would be nice on a vet min

ripe matrix
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I'm a lauri markkenen enjoyer. Future buck 😉😉😉😉 pls horst cook this off season 🙏

ripe matrix
chilly wedge
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Well idk tbh but cmon now nobody would take that deal

ripe matrix
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Rumors alway come up bug end up being so wrong

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People are just bored since thier team isn't in the playoffs they like to create rumors and wishful trades lol

atomic dagger
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kris dunn???

astral galleon
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Lonnie Walker, Kris Dunn, Dennis Smith Jr

atomic dagger
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dsj would be really nice if he could stay healthy

astral galleon
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if we could get 2 of them at minimum, thatd b a giant success

rose maple
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I'll settle for Holiday (either one), Wesley Matthews (even if he's old), and Delon Wright

astral galleon
lost prism
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I’d love Kris Dunn

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I’d be surprised if Delon Wright can’t get more than a vet min

astral galleon
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its turning into, the 5 starters all get paid 20 to 40$m.
3 vets
3 rookie deals
2 mle
and some leftover $ before the new rules

atomic dagger
atomic dagger
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Is it realistic we take jevon back? 😭

hardy temple
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hes making too much

astral galleon
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Kostas Antetokounmpo for 3rd Center

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idk how that works, if ur signed for a euro team

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usually, theres "outs" in ur contract, to come to the nba

hardy temple
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how tall is kostas

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6'10"? still growing?

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hes 26

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so doubtful

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alex 6'8", 22 y/o

astral galleon
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i think 6'10 or 11

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Panathinaikos/Euroball has Kostas at 6'9

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Kostas can b our new 15th man

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the VIBES

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think of the VIBES

empty hill
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Being Giannis’s brother isn’t the only reason Thanasis gets a roster spot. I don’t know if Kostas brings all the off the court stuff Thanasis does

hardy temple
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kostas brings little bro energy

forest umbra
jaunty dagger
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Here’s a question for you all: would you trade #23 and #33 for the Magic’s #18 and #47

hardy temple
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is there someone to grab at 18?

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that wont be around at 23

jaunty dagger
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Kel’el Ware, Tristan da Silva, Devin Carter

hardy temple
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would have to see how things shake out a bit

jaunty dagger
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Fringe lottery guys that could fall

hardy temple
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i would.... take the risk idk'

jaunty dagger
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I’m skeptical of the idea that we could find a Brook replacement in the draft… but if there was a Brook replacement in this draft, it’s probably Kel’el

astral galleon
empty hill
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Getting 2 guys also has the added benefit of those 2 guys having healthy competition for minutes and making each other better

lost prism
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maybe this year will be different but I wouldn’t take the chance

astral galleon
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BRING HIM HERE

forest umbra
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Also, Kostas is 7-feet tall now.

forest umbra
# jaunty dagger I’m skeptical of the idea that we could find a Brook replacement in the draft… b...

Brook Lopez was a lottery pick, No. 10 overall. Then an all-star scoring big. Then an all-defensive team stretch big.
There are no "Brook replacements" in this draft and there are few doing what he's doing in the NBA.

That said -- I think if you're looking to have a drafted big, the emphasis will not be on shooting -- think of strong screeners and more dedicated rim runners/finishers at the rim (along with the rim protection).

empty hill
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As far as “Brook replacement” goes, I’m more interested in a guy who can be a bench guy and comes in and does what Brook does. For years our only bench big has been Bobby, who is a very different player than Brook. I think it’d be a good idea to have a big body center who can contribute like 8-10 minutes a game for rotation flexibility reasons at least

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Same thing Celtics do with Al Horford, have a few bench bigs (Kornet, Tillman) to lighten his load

jaunty dagger
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Honestly I’d hear the argument that Edey was the needle as well

rose maple
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We could get Kevon Looney after Warriors release him

forest umbra
mighty sequoiaBOT
# empty hill https://x.com/esidery/status/1800245908799472029

Kevon Looney will likely be released by the Warriors to save money on their tax bill, per @timkawakami (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/warriors-plus-minus-a-show-about-the-golden-state-warriors/id1147910296).

Only $3 million of Looney’s $8 million salary is guaranteed until it fully locks in on June 24.

If Looney is released, expect ple...

astral galleon
empty hill
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Just read up on it, this is just some speculation by some radio guy

forest umbra
# empty hill https://x.com/esidery/status/1800245908799472029

Ah - there's some context there than just saying released on the June 24 deadline of the full $8M guaranteed. It was a smart compromised added in by Looney's agent, so he couldn't be traded on draft night(s). Still interesting they'd rather cut him and pay roughly $9M in a tax bill than try to move his $8M in a trade (which they probably could).
He's the kind of guy I think Rivers was talking about in terms of the 28-year-old veteran as opposed to assuming he needs to play a "young guy."

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But remember - the Bucks are only in the hunt for minimums. Looney feels like a minimum guy at this point, but all it takes is one...

forest umbra
rancid widget
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Pretty sure we're targetting marcus smart

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imo trade malik and crowder for better scoring option

hardy temple
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malik is a FA

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crowder also a UFA

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maybe we get him on a vet min

rancid widget
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yeah

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bc our salary cap is limiting trades

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what do you think is more beneficial to the team though

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smart or caruso

hardy temple
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we arent getting either

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so no point in question

rancid widget
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and how can you be so sure?

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@hardy temple

hardy temple
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because we cant afford them

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bulls arent trading anyone

astral widget
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They’re not vet min guys

hardy temple
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without getting a FRP back

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unless smart gets cut and goes for a vet min

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idk

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im 99% sure

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our roster is mostly set barring any huge surprising trades

rancid widget
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ah

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yeah i get what u mean

hardy temple
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all we are going to do is fill up the rest of the roster with vet mins and draftees

hardy temple
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we have no moneys

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spent it all on coaches

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😄

astral widget
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!picks

drowsy wagonBOT
rancid widget
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Or a mid level contract

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But he's kindof a veteran

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And we have Brook, Giannis Dame and both Pat's

forest umbra
# rancid widget Or a mid level contract

There is no midlevel available.

But to the broader point, Looney would be the "young" veteran Rivers mentioned in his end-of-year presser. He'll be 29 in season. Lot of minutes on those legs, but in a reserve role I imagine he's got more in the tank than the 34-38 year olds the Bucks have cycled through the last four seasons...

merry scarab
forest umbra
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1000%.

jaunty dagger
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Looney really has not been himself since the championship season, if the Bucks were to sign him I’d be curious about his health

rancid widget
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Physical or mental?

jaunty dagger
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I’m pretty sure it’s physical, he doesn’t have the speed and bounce he did a couple years ago

jaunty dagger
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I heard about this proposed one from a kings fan second hand and decided to check if it was good

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Davion could be swapped for Sasha Vezenkov since he's asking for a trade as well

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Vezenkov for Pat is much more 1:1 trade

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basically Bucks move up/down and get into a position where there's a chance they could slide under the second apron, for Davion, who's been completely eclipsed by Keon Ellis for minutes and impact, but should fit in well here, given how much we love pesty guards

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Kings get Pat, a reliable shooter who can defend bigger guys, basically insurance for if they lose or need to trade someone like Barnes or Huerter

astral galleon
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id rather trade Davion for 2 future 2nds

lost prism
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Even more surprised it came from a Kings fan

rancid widget
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It fits for the Kings and the Bucks

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Bucks legit need a pesky defender

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Kings need a half-consistent shooter to go with Murray

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And pat is genuinely a great offensive rebounder for his size

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But what does Vezenkov offer?

empty hill
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So you can negotiate with your own players but can’t announce it until the 30th?

merry scarab
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But someone like Woj could, I could be completely wrong though

empty hill
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Yeah cause Windy said the other day that we’ll start hearing announcements as soon as the finals are over

merry scarab
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I need to start seeing something from some team haha. Feed me more basketball

ripe matrix
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Any news about any free agency potential deals?

hardy temple
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JVGundy is top assistant at the clips now

jaunty dagger
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Idk if it’s going to be very loud for us until the draft

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Brook or PatBev extension at most, and I expect that to come later

ripe matrix
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Maybe brook goes on a vet extension

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Or plays off the bench and doc runs the offense thru him

astral widget
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He’s got one year at like 25 mil

ripe matrix
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Hes a good scorer if you give him the chance

ripe matrix
astral widget
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He’s good at a lot of stuff when he’s not taking the brunt of everyone else’s issues

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AGs weird schemes and the perimeter not being defended

ripe matrix
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It's just that he sacrificed so muc since his injury

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And since he's getting older and g is getting better and better

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In Brooklyn he was the man #1

astral widget
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He also just gives and gives

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Like there’s only one game this season where you felt like he wasn’t in it 100%

ripe matrix
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Yeah the fac the his still an elite rim protector at his age and after his injury is actually commendable

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He can space the floor and is a threat to all bigs as he outweighs almost all bigs too

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Strong as a mountain splash as a waterfall

forest umbra
ripe matrix
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Eager to see what will become of the bucks in 2025-25

forest umbra
rancid widget
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Brook's o is decent

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It's just that when Giannis is out

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The entire defensive scheme falls on him

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And he has to kind of connect the offense

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Which is tough for him when he's used to Giannis doing that

astral widget
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!smash

rancid widget
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!smash

rancid widget
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damn

astral widget
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!fuckyou2

empty hill
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I want Kel’el simply cause of his name

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Will be spamming this every time he messes up

astral galleon
rancid widget
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He does have a fire name

empty hill
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I hope you guys are smart enough to realize you can’t have like 5 players fully in rotation getting big minutes that are in their first, second and third years

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For a championship or bust team

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You can have like one or two at most

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You guys seem to want MarJon, Ajax, AJ Green, the two guys we draft this year, even Livingston, all to get serious minutes. At most we’re getting AJ Green + one of MarJon or Ajax

astral widget
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Who is saying that

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Why do I feel like I did something wrong lol

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I think the general vibe among everyone who plays actual attention is that it’ll be nice to be able to turn those guys into rotation players that can continue to grow

merry scarab
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Me want Moses moody from GS

empty hill
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Like “AJ will be our starting SG, MarJon and Ajax will be the first ones off the bench, let’s draft a big that’ll be the backup to Brook/replace Brook” etc

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It’s not happening

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That’s at least 4 very young guys very high in the rotation tree

astral widget
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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There’s more delusional shit being said in here PatLUL

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But it’s nice to see them putting in the work in Greece right now

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Except AJ where’s that guy

empty hill
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Yeah don’t get me wrong, I want to see them be great

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I just don’t see ALL of them reaching that

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And maybe they will and prove me wrong, I’d love to eat my words

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They’re great kids who are putting in the work

empty hill
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I saw a picture of him posted by the official page in their gear

astral widget
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Yeah he threw out the first pitch

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It was rhetorical

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He didn’t go to Greece last year either

atomic dagger
empty hill
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I mean Green and Jackson Jr was already getting meaningful minutes last year

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In a playoff series at that (although Giannis being out might have affected Jackson minutes)

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I have very high hopes for Ajax, but for those hopes to be realized, he needs to fix a giant hole in his game, which is his inability to look at the basket with the ball

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He can’t drive to the basket, he can’t shoot pull up etc, he can not do anything with the ball in a half court setting other than make skip passes and that limits him a lot. In a playoff setting, opponents will slow the pace down and force him to handle the ball

ripe matrix
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As for marjon, he's isn't even given an opportunity with the coach change and all. He's hasn't really gotten better since last year either but this year we will see how he develops with Doc and his crew

empty hill
ripe matrix
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Hes got the size why u scared boy lol

empty hill
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Well he’s not scared, he just doesn’t have the touch around the rim

lost prism
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The main rookie/young player narrative I would like to push back on is the idea that Doc didn’t play them enough. AJ and Ajax got legit playoff minutes, I’m not sure what else people wanted

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Ajax was one of a few rookies to be used in the playoffs at all

ripe matrix
jaunty dagger
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And Green had even more

ripe matrix
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I think Klay Thompson would fit well with Nuggets.

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He can come off the bench and slap the lakers again

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😅

merry scarab
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I doubt the nuggets can afford him but I have no idea

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But that would be an awesome addition if you’re the nuggets

rancid widget
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Yeah, he'd be playing like Caldwell Pope

atomic dagger
ripe matrix
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Lol the raptors want bronny 🤣

rancid widget
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What do y'all think about Brook to the rockets

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For Tari Eason and Steve-O

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houston nearly signed brook last season

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brook can be their final step in atleast making playoffs

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steve o can provide athleticism, strength and rebounding

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and eason just sounds like a good ending piece

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Or

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Waht about Brook and chris livingston to the kings

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for

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Davion mithcell and harrison barnes

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This would shift giannis to being center ful time

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Barnes would fit perfectly between giannis and khris

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He is versatile as he can switch through positions

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Mitchell is a defensive minded combo guard

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he can play alongised dame or as a backup guard

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Who wanted to see pat bev start anyway

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And either way mitchell's defense would atleast boost ours a bit

ripe matrix
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Lol the rockets are really trying to aquire KD and Jimmy Butler lmaoo

mighty sequoiaBOT
# lost prism Via Jim https://x.com/bucks_breakdown/status/1805954981729563059?s=46&t=BnoeKt0W...
astral widget
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Link to the Jim JS post

rose maple
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The Bucks should add Monty Williams to the coaching staff

hardy temple
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monty dont want to coach or do anything rn

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he got a good retirement package

halcyon heath
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rancid widget
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Steve-O for rebounding and size down low

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Like imagine Giannis and Dame playing with a legendary screener, that would literally unlock a new "dimension" of bucks basketball

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Eason's main appeal is his defensive upside

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Blocking 1.1 shots a game, and 1.9 steals a game

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Seems to be a decent rebounder, averaging 7 a game

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Which is quite good for 6'8

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Sure, his offense clashes with Giannis as he is a downhill attacker who thrives in transition

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And my favorite part is that this was his second season and he looks so much matured, a lil bit more exp could do a whole lot for us

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Oh and to add to aquaman, he has great defensive instincts

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And I selfishly wanted to see some physical presence for the bucks 😂 😂

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Wait I just realized after watching his reel

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Eason's athleticism is out of this world

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Vertically and laterally, and he has sneaky athleticism too

forest umbra
# rancid widget Oh and to add to aquaman, he has great defensive instincts

This is assuming he can A) even play and B) be anything resembling what you're talking about
https://www.commercialappeal.com/story/sports/nba/grizzlies/2023/10/30/steven-adams-injury-memphis-grizzlies-nba-doctor-pcl-surgery-xavier-tillman-sr-jaren-jackson-jr/71343459007/

I think the Bucks would have to feel REAL good about a 100% recovery.

The Commercial Appeal

The handling of Steven Adams' knee injury left many people puzzled, but one former NBA team doctor says the Grizzlies managed the injury correctly.

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I guess for me, I think the Bucks are looking for 'certainty' in any returns for their remaining championship core.

rancid widget
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Alright, agreed on that one

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Delon wright, not mad at that

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Quick guard n amazing defense

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kinda what we need

ripe matrix
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Lol warriors making moves

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They are trying to get Laurie Markkanen

hardy temple
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mo staying on magic, pretty much a no brainer there

astral widget
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A few teams are trying to get him

ripe matrix
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📠

ripe matrix
rancid widget
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Anybody like JT Thor?

empty hill
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No

rancid widget
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Why?

empty hill
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He’s not a good basketball player

rose maple
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Demar Derozan should just take a Vet min with the Milwaukee Bucks

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He needs a ring

empty hill
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He doesn’t really fit us

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He’s basically a worse Khris

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Without the on court leadership traits of Khris

atomic dagger
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We dont want demar

ripe matrix
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If front office does any moves to get grant williams I'll be happy af!

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Our bench will be full of Dawgs. Pat bev bobby and grant williams 🔥 lock down defense

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Please horst if you are in the chat get grant williams 🙏

merry scarab
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I don’t think either grant or pat bev will be on the team my friend

astral widget
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lol Pat Bev is not on the bucks this year

ripe matrix
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Ans crossbones

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Ashes

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Tomb

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Grave

ripe matrix
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Funeral

ripe matrix
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😩

astral galleon
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I hate Bev
And I don't want Grant.

Keep the Aholes and bad vibes people away from our team

empty hill
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What people don’t get is that while PJ was a dawg and Bobby is dawg, they’re also good people and fund to hang around with. Good locker room guys.

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And also where is this notion that Grant Williams is a dawg coming from

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He’s always been a lame

vague panther
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yall know he's trolling right

astral widget
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Hard to tell with that one