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#🏈 Football General Chat + Gamethread + Arthur
alpine grove
alpine grove
he should be in the UFL
woeful topaz
broncos fans: oh thank GOD we don't have to watch wilson suck at qb anymore
the broncos:
surreal hare
Different kinda of sucking at least
stoic heath
The UTSA Broncos
mint edge
The fall of the broncos needs to be studied
Won a superbowl then made every wrong decision they could
woeful topaz
Won a superbowl then made every wrong decision they could
well, they tried to do what they did with manning
pick up an aging qb with a ring and then see if you can get one more out of him
issue is he fell off and you didn't have a top defense
woeful topaz
the H is very... seattle kraken but i think it's as close to the oilers as they could get without the titans throwing a hissyfit
mint edge
See Broncos that’s how you rebrand
brave bison
whyd he get it back
lmao "oh this is above board now? sure reggie you can have this back"
fuck the NCAA and the Heisman Trust
that last sentence is CRAZY
brave bison
heisman trust wrote this article 💀
brave bison
what a thinly-veiled attempt at currying public favor
yeah this article is fucking gross
modest quailBOT
https://x.com/adamschefter/status/1783247380462100918?s=46
sturdy wagon
Cincy can't have anything nice smh
woeful topaz
no surprises top 4
olive knot
falcons taking ||penix??????||
woeful topaz
falcons taking ||penix??????||
bruh i have NO IDEA
he's going to be 28 YEARS OLD at the end of kirk's contract
love didn't even turn 25 until halfway through this season
olive knot
bruh i have NO IDEA
theyre trying to recreate matty ice in the aggregate
woeful topaz
raiders wtf
you took michael mayer last year, have the option of the first defensive player off the board and you took bowers??
woeful topaz
AOC gets his target! MVP season inbound
but
woeful topaz
well they didn't give up shit
i hate that i have to root against JJ now
but unfortunately he's a bust 🫡
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well they didn't give up shit
oh did they? Guess it was only one spot, I completely missed the pick
woeful topaz
oh did they? Guess it was only one spot, I completely missed the pick
hang on i'll find the trade details
Jets give up: 1-10, 6-203
Vikings give up: 1-11, 4-129, 5-157
give up a 6th to gain a 4th and a 5th so the vikings can take a guy that made no impact on their pick
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Yeah lmao did they really think the jets would take him?
I guess it wouldn’t have been the worst move for them, Rodge is getting up there
woeful topaz
indy no 😭
woeful topaz
Yeah lmao did they really think the jets would take him?
they wanted to make sure that the broncos and raiders couldn't
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ah good point
stoic heath
Few more picks till DeJean 🙏
woeful topaz
Few more picks till DeJean 🙏
i want him but i think the eagles yoink him tbh
stoic heath
i want him but i think the eagles yoink him tbh
I thought we’d trade up with Seattle for him tbh
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I just want the packers to pick so I can go to bed
woeful topaz
vikings just traded up to 17 with the jags
frail harness
JJ McCarthy is going to be the biggest bust this draft mark my words
woeful topaz
JJ McCarthy is going to be the biggest bust this draft mark my words
as a michigan fan i hate you
as a packers fan this is the way
frail harness
bro got carried to that National Championship
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His ceiling is Brock Purdy
woeful topaz
modest quailBOT
https://x.com/legendsports7/status/1783676484961398946
olive knot
FUCK the steelers
surreal hare
Uh didn’t the falcons pick up Kirk cousins
I have not paid much attention to nfl off season
woeful topaz
Uh didn’t the falcons pick up Kirk cousins
modest quailBOT
https://twitter.com/DMRussini/status/1783674486966952055
surreal hare
woeful topaz
this was his make or break year too
the GM i mean
this is his 4th draft
so in the 1sts he's drafted kyle pitts (underused), drake london (underperforms), bijan (underused), and now a backup qb that will be 26 by the time he can even THINK about starting
surreal hare
making this *even more bizarre*
woeful topaz
lmfao
woeful topaz
modest quailBOT
https://x.com/FieldYates/status/1783698570022965677
woeful topaz
buffalo WYD
sturdy wagon
doing it to themselves smh
couldve picked a wr themselves but gifted one to the chiefs for free
woeful topaz
they moved up a round basically
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And now they’re out of the first round altogether
woeful topaz
what is beane cooking
man wants a 5th year option on someone
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modest quailBOT
https://twitter.com/CrispyCarlton/status/1783844715995058453
sacred burrow
Kirk signed a 4 year deal Penix will almost be 28 by then
No way they plan to sit him for four years right? But then that Kirk contract is eh
woeful topaz
Kirk signed a 4 year deal Penix will almost be 28 by then
you can cut kirk after 2 years for $25M dead cap
which is basically nothing at this point
most likely option is that penix starts his 3rd season as a 26 year old
zealous panther
Kirk signed a 4 year deal Penix will almost be 28 by then
Is there a chance they trade him?
pulsar ocean
as of rn theres no real point speculating too much
it all depends on how penix pans out and if kirk comes back from the achilles
a lot of variables
woeful topaz
Is there a chance they trade him?
kirk? i mean if they wanted to trade a 38 year old in 2 years then more power to them
if they do plan to move on after 2 years it's at least going to be better than cutting him
see if you can get an asset back, eat the $25M dead, save yourselves $30M and get a 2nd or something
zealous panther
kirk? i mean if they wanted to trade a 38 year old in 2 years then more power to...
It’s just really weird that they got Cousins and then draft Penix
halcyon torrent
Man.... Caleb Winniams is my QB
halcyon torrent
Since we already have the best roster ever constructed. Might as well let the Packers catch up (I do love the picks you guys took)
Bullard, Hopper, etc
woeful topaz
Man.... Caleb Winniams is my QB
packers drafted legendary 2022-23 cotton bowl winner michael pratt so we had the secret to defeat 2022-23 cotton bowl loser caleb williams
halcyon torrent
packers drafted legendary 2022-23 cotton bowl winner michael pratt so we had the...
I like Pratt a lot
surreal hare
smoky bough
https://fxtwitter.com/ScottBarrettDFB/status/1784271331543929172
jeez 💀
modest quailBOT
https://x.com/bleacherreport/status/1786045435951358158?s=46&t=u0JnXSyisKtXJ8Yfd...
woeful topaz
lol
obsidian stone
hes gonna be the one who always throws laterals on the last kickoff of the game
pulsar ocean
modest quailBOT
https://twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/status/1787888143707832531?ref_src=twsrc%5Ego...
alpine grove
Dang they got an interesting WR room now
obsidian stone
an old one
woeful topaz
modest quailBOT
https://twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/status/1787950203867115962?t=SpLkIh74Qz85MsIg...
woeful topaz
super bowl champ to out of the league speedrun any%
woeful topaz
car crash?
yeah a month ago he got arrested for at least somewhat causing a 6 vehicle crash by going 119 in his lambo to race a college receiver going 116 in their corvette, injured 7 people
Rice turned himself after police issued warrants for one count of aggravated assault, one count of collision involving serious bodily injury and six counts of collision involving injury
upper pagoda
modest quailBOT
https://x.com/RotoSurgeon/status/1787953027519049961
woeful topaz
modest quailBOT
https://twitter.com/nflrums/status/1788658380283801865?
woeful topaz
bruh
woeful topaz
he definitely could have gotten away with a slap on the wrist for the crash
but this after the crash?
man's gone
obsidian stone
hit and run is a federal offense
surreal hare
Wtf
brazen anvil
new lions jerseys are so dope, so glad they went back to classic block numbers
woeful topaz
god damn, goff getting 4/212 with 170M guaranteed
obsidian stone
jeez
alpine grove
then what will Love get 👀
woeful topaz
then what will Love get 👀
probably similar tbh
53M/yr but with some more guarantees than goff
obsidian stone
surreal hare
Damn all these chiefs players really letting their true selves fly in the off season
woeful topaz
right in the BUTTker
more like harrison bumker
obsidian stone
harry-son's buttker
smoky bough
https://touchdownwire.usatoday.com/2024/05/13/chiefs-kicker-harrison-butker-bash...
Bruh
woeful topaz
modest quailBOT
https://x.com/Schultz_Report/status/1790746271273160893
https://x.com/Schultz_Re...
https://fxtwitter.com/Schultz_Report/status/1790746271273160893
https://fxtwitter.com/Schultz_Report/status/1790776771660358098
surreal hare
https://x.com/Schultz_Report/status/1790746271273160893
https://x.com/Schultz_Re...
Sweet I can go from trashy Netflix Christmas movie to football
But if the packers aren’t playing on Christmas idc
surreal hare
Yeah the nfl is super giving the finger to the nba with more Christmas games
surreal hare
Ew
olive knot
https://fxtwitter.com/chargers/status/1790895458581467314 they got butker in the kitchen 
if the chargers were as good as their social media team, maybe theyd be a dynasty by now
woeful topaz
if the chargers were as good as their social media team, maybe theyd be a dynast...
related
surreal hare
https://fxtwitter.com/chargers/status/1790895458581467314 they got butker in the...
Some of the team lore went over my head but the best was the end with Aaron rodgers getting a radioactive 5G baby
And that’s a sentence I never thought I’d type
woeful topaz
https://fxtwitter.com/chargers/status/1790895458581467314 they got butker in the...
also i missed the butker thing the first time damn they made that in a hurry
surreal hare
He’s always been like that
Didn’t realize this was the same guy
Swifties get him
surreal hare
Hits to the head don’t make you a scumbag
alpine grotto
Watching the end of that Butker video made me think of Death Note for some reason
"......homemaker"
surreal hare
zealous osprey
https://fixupx.com/adamschefter/status/1796283964832850064?s=46&t=unLZzySZvCsk33...
WWWW
(not going to watch it)
modest quailBOT
https://x.com/adamschefter/status/1797268532960415773?s=46
modest quailBOT
https://x.com/mysportsupdate/status/1797619192180674663?s=46
smoky bough
https://fxtwitter.com/mysportsupdate/status/1797619192180674663
cowboys sweating
woeful topaz
cowboys sweating
10 bucks says lamb and dak both walk
woeful topaz
to green bay?
my nonsense brain says dak is a raider and lamb is a patriot or a colt
modest quailBOT
https://x.com/tompelissero/status/1798688634402738542?s=46
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LOL these bozos don’t even play in the snow
surreal hare
Ahahah
Are those home or away alternates
Plz show up to lambeau in January in those
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Not sure, NFL alternates usually are for home, but if they’re white anyways they could maybe wear them away?
woeful topaz
Are those home or away alternates
saw someone saying they're wearing them week 15 in seattle
surreal hare
Booooo
woeful topaz
LOL these bozos don’t even play in the snow
this is appropriation tbh
get outta here dome bozos
vikings could never
woeful topaz
modest quailBOT
https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1798688664366494169
woeful topaz
issuing a retraction on my previous statement
they're wearing them bears @ vikings MNF
zealous osprey
https://fxtwitter.com/tompelissero/status/1798688634402738542
7-10 has never looked so good
woeful topaz
muted valley
Texans winning it all I see
pulsar ocean
modest quailBOT
https://x.com/mattschneidman/status/1800625203237556596?s=46&t=YSfLKy4EOl0GTQcJP...
pulsar ocean
this season feels good
also KC and JLove have said they are working on and want extensions
and i forgot abt packers chat
sacred burrow
all the media that's come out from the team players is so positive
The vibes r immaculate rn
muted valley
https://fxtwitter.com/hoggnfl/status/1800623966089789804
That's it
muted valley
acoustic pilot
That's a fire helmet ngl
surreal hare
Yeah I hate to love it
alpine grove
Hawt
muted valley
alpine grove
Tyreek, Kupp, and Pickens/Olave (pick your poison here)
Kupp should be higher in the money column.. steal
obsidian stone
olave a steal too
muted valley
Kupp should be higher in the money column.. steal
It's probably cause he has lost a step
If it's just 3 WRs ima go with jjetas, nico, and keenan
muted valley
But if the packers aren’t playing on Christmas idc
But stroud
surreal hare
But stroud
But what
obsidian stone
stroud the fraud
surreal hare
I’m not spending Christmas watching stroud
obsidian stone
i spend most of christmas driving usually
surreal hare
I want to watch Giannis get revenge against a team that beat us this year
Which is no doubt what they’ll do
See if Adam silver has the chutzpah to put a Christmas game in Milwaukee or Indy
muted valley
I’m not spending Christmas watching stroud
Only 3 hours
surreal hare
Perfect nap time after a big meal
olive knot
yea i think kupp should still be in the $5 tier or at the very least swap puka/kupp, he was basically rehabbing all of last season
dk for $2 and mhj/odunze for $1 is solid value too
zealous osprey
10 rome odunzes 🗣️
zealous osprey
muted valley
alpine grove
Man, I forgot Mike Williams went to the Jets
zealous osprey
Man, I forgot Mike Williams went to the Jets
He did?
alpine grove
He did?
he did 😭 istg there’s way too many moves in NFL free agency, players lowkey be jumping more than NBA as of late
zealous osprey
I haven't been following the nfl as of late so seeing all these players on different teams at the start of the season is going to be insane
Forgot Hollywood Brown went to kc
alpine grove
Derrick Henry Ravens hit me yesterday, I was like oh yea
Swift on the Bears, I’m like huh.. forgot abt that 😅
It only sets in once week 1 arrives ig
WAIT @zealous osprey why df I forget Keenan went to Bears too lmao
zealous osprey
Yeah, I've only kept up with the bears signings lol
alpine grove
oh right that’s your team haha
Diontae Johnson a Panther, Jeudy a Brown, Antonio Gibson a patriot, Ekeler a Commander
I remember all these moves when they happened yet they feel new again lol
zealous osprey
Diontae Johnson a Panther, Jeudy a Brown, Antonio Gibson a patriot, Ekeler a Com...
Only remember the Ekeler signing lol the rest is new to me
alpine grove
😂😂
All these moves really won’t set in for me until week 1
Ridley on the Titans, so is Pollard
muted valley
Ridley on the Titans, so is Pollard <:LMAO:852860901287788544>
And sneed
muted valley
Pollard too???
And boyd
zealous osprey
What the titans doing 💀
muted valley
That's awesome
Traffic tho
surreal hare
Damn
muted valley
@zealous axle let's move conversation here
muted valley
It's a pretty big gap
muted valley
I bet Hutch has a better pass rush win rate
zealous axle
Other than that? Sacks, tackles, TFL, FF, theyre all pretty much within the margin of error there. The only exception there is Walker and even then Walker is a much better pass defender which could lead to some more complex schemes.
Like im not gonna deny that Hutch is better but to imagine that the gap is insurmountable for them is nuts especially after bounce back seasons like these
as for win rate I would too imagine Hutch is better
As i said he's way better at getting to the QB but thats not the only job for them as players
muted valley
Like im not gonna deny that Hutch is better but to imagine that the gap is insur...
It's not insurmountable but it's just unlikely walker becomes as good as hutch
Walker was a raw prospect who jumped up due to his athleticism
Walker needs a massive jump this season
obsidian stone
Sad
olive knot
goddamn RIP
zealous osprey
🙏
full atlas
@zealous axle @muted valley Is Russ a top 15 qb all time?
muted valley
<@972229012833325117> <@714464692944502786> Is Russ a top 15 qb all time?
Probably not
zealous axle
<@972229012833325117> <@714464692944502786> Is Russ a top 15 qb all time?
no
classic HoVG quarterback
im sure you can make a stastical argument that he is but it'll just fall flat to me because you watch him play past 2020 its clear he was just kinda washed
zealous osprey
<@972229012833325117> <@714464692944502786> Is Russ a top 15 qb all time?
Definitely not
zealous axle
like, from my POV, if russ IS a top 15 guy then why not Joe Flacco or Carson Palmer too?
zealous axle
I could be convinced about Rivers but thats it
And its not really Rivers fault either he was just on a cursed franchise
full atlas
Even if you don’t think Rivers is top 15 Staubach and Tarkenton are easily better
zealous axle
tarkenton for sure
full atlas
And its not really Rivers fault either he was just on a cursed franchise
Rivers was statistically one of the worst QBs in the playoffs
Yes the chargers were and still are a poverty franchise but Rivers isn’t innocent in all that either
zealous axle
just historically the chargers are shit in the playoffs
even drew brees couldnt do shit and he got basically handed a superbowl
like the last time they even won a playoff game was 2018
full atlas
even drew brees couldnt do shit and he got basically handed a superbowl
Chargers let him go after suffering an elbow injury I believe and let him bet on himself
zealous axle
and the last time they won multiple was 2007
full atlas
Clearly a mistake obviously but Rivers wasn’t all that bad of a replacement
full atlas
and the last time they won multiple was 2007
I believe Harbaugh will change the franchise around
zealous axle
I wanna have faith in him, I do, but that team is hilariously bad and Harbaugh has been out of the NFL for a damn decade
full atlas
I wanna have faith in him, I do, but that team is hilariously bad and Harbaugh h...
Offense is obviously horrendous and d is absolutely a question mark but I just somehow believe him and Herbert can turn it around
zealous axle
although to be fair to the chargers, it was a bit more than a shoulder injury. guy dislocated his shoulder, tore his labrum and had a partial tear of his rotator cuff.
olive knot
like, from my POV, if russ IS a top 15 guy then why not Joe Flacco or Carson Pal...
russ isnt a top 15 guy by any means but comparing him to palmer and flacco feels disingenuous too
zealous axle
that shit wouldve been a career ender in the past
olive knot
imo hes in that borderline top 30 area with guys like newton/rivers/ryan
zealous axle
i mean im a bit of a russ denier
full atlas
imo hes in that borderline top 30 area with guys like newton/rivers/ryan
Russ is better then Cam ngl
zealous axle
hes for sure not a top 15 guy but I honestly just kinda see him as smart kyler
full atlas
He’s def not better then matty ice though
olive knot
yea i dont think hes as good as the stats say he is or ever peaked higher than a fair bit of qbs, but he's been consistent for like a decade as a premier dual threat qb
full atlas
I think Seattle just did a really great job at hiding his flaws, like Ben said after 2020 he fell off a cliff production wise
zealous axle
nah its about like 8 years and even then the dual threat thing started to go away towards 2018
not to say he couldnt move but it wasnt like prime russ at all
olive knot
it was so annoying watching him refuse to throw balls away lol, like the bad rap seattle's oline got was basically because he'd rather take a sack than lower his comp %
i mean 8 years is still an insane amount in terms of longevity, a lot of great qbs only have 4-5 years of elite play before they fall off
full atlas
nah its about like 8 years and even then the dual threat thing started to go awa...
Yup dual threat guys just are never that great of a passer
Cam, Vick, same shit with Lamar (though he has improved as a passer)
zealous axle
i mean 8 years is still an insane amount in terms of longevity, a lot of great q...
well yeah but that lines up with a guy like Joe Flacco or Carson Palmer.
zealous axle
Cam, Vick, same shit with Lamar (though he has improved as a passer)
out of all those guys give me Cam
olive knot
palmer had like 3 years of good play including 2015, maybe if he didnt have those injuries he would've had a similar trajectory but as it stands russ's production is far superior
full atlas
out of all those guys give me Cam
Yup modern day Josh Allen though not as good of a passer
zealous axle
like if its between Big Throw Joe, dangeRuss, and Palmer at the peak of their powers im choosing Russ, right, but if i gotta build around a guy based on what they can do? eh idk man
Palmer is disingenious ill say more that I think about it
olive knot
prime cam was incredible, its a shame he tailed off quick after 2015 cause he was one of the most fun qbs to watch
zealous axle
prime cam was incredible, its a shame he tailed off quick after 2015 cause he wa...
if he managed to stay healthy I think the guy wouldve gone on a revenge tour and won probably 2 rings
but thats all speculation
olive knot
if he managed to stay healthy I think the guy wouldve gone on a revenge tour and...
if carolina kept up anywhere close to 2015 form then they mightve been able to win in 2018/2019, although i feel they'd only win 1 out of the 2
but i can see it
zealous axle
I mean the defense probably gets worse but if youve got cam and someone to catch cam newton piss missiles then shit
i could see him probably beating the pats in 2019, just on the basis on mobile QBs being the bane of Bill's existance
i would say they probably make it in 2017 and 2019
win 2019 and barely lose in reg to the pats in 2017
olive knot
i feel like atlanta was repping the nfc in 2017 no matter what, they were a juggernaut
if they made it in 2018 they couldve won too, pats defense that year was mid iirc
zealous axle
it was but you had healthy gronk, brandin cooks, dion lewis' one healthy season, and not quite washed up Amendola
like people forget it cost the eagles damn near everything to beat the team
brady quite literally had the greatest superbowl performance of all time
zealous axle
i mean assuming they still get CMC
they only got CMC because they sucked ass cheeks after going 15-1
(though in classic riverboat ron fashion he did basically nothing else besides use CMC)
olive knot
panthers are the most volatile team in terms of standings so it probably wouldve happened regardless
zealous axle
i guess they couldve gotten dalvin cook
olive knot
they basically just swap their wins/losses every season and call it a day
zealous axle
i hope theyre good this year
who was that damn moron running the show
frankie the 4th?
olive knot
yeah lol
zealous axle
damn near all of that teams problems are just blocking
olive knot
team cant do shit as long as tepper insists on being as hands on as he is anyways
zealous axle
like when bryce young actually had blockers his passer rating went up damn near 50 points lmao
hes not as bad as people think, yet
one or two more seasons of being sacked 50 times as basically NFl muggsy bogues, he'll be shit
olive knot
i mean he was a top prospect for a reason, but if he doesnt get a consistent system in place around him it's joever
zealous axle
i mean he was a top prospect for a reason, but if he doesnt get a consistent sys...
NFL teams when they realize that the coaching lazy mary isnt the solution
(the jags'll never figure it out, Belke cant read)
olive knot
baalke will always have my respect for demolishing the niners, if only for a little while lol
full atlas
damn near all of that teams problems are just blocking
Nah the team is a dumpster fire all around
Literally anywhere you look offense, defense, STs are all abysmal
muted valley
NFL teams when they realize that the coaching lazy mary isnt the solution
I like the 5 different head coaches in 5 years strategy
zealous osprey
Anyone in here want to join our fantasy league in #1141506819202744412 ?
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I’d do it again
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@zealous axle You think Caleb is going to be the best QB out of the first 3 selected?
zealous axle
i give him the highest chance of success
if im gonna be honest, i think daniels has the worst situation because the guy is addicted to running into sacks, on a roster that got sam howell sacked 60 times running for his life
full atlas
i give him the highest chance of success
I agree I think there’s just no way he busts
zealous axle
theres always a chance because that coaching staff is...ehh
full atlas
That’s such a stacked WR room for a rookie to be working with but knowing chicago they’ll still fuck it up
Same with JJ
zealous axle
but id say at worst, he just turns into cutler with wheels
full atlas
We’ll know real fast if they’re ass this season
full atlas
theres always a chance because that coaching staff is...ehh
Def should’ve cleaned house this summer
zealous axle
Bo nix got no chance at all though lmao
overdrafted, on a team that traded away all their offensive talent and drafted basically just him to fix that, but its all okay because sean payton???
full atlas
Bo nix got no chance at all though lmao
They drafted franklin who went to oregon too so they have a connection, Mims has potential as well but other then that it’s looking pretty grim
Sutton looks to be on his way out
zealous axle
im not particularly sold on franklin. big tyquan vibes.
full atlas
overdrafted, on a team that traded away all their offensive talent and drafted b...
They panicked and reached because every other QB was getting taken
zealous axle
They panicked and reached because every other QB was getting taken
I hate that teams do this
full atlas
im not particularly sold on franklin. big tyquan vibes.
Agreed
full atlas
I hate that teams do this
Penix was the biggest reach of the draft imo
zealous axle
probably, but at least that made "sense"
kirk is coming off a big injury, hes old, and theyve got a lot invested in him. worst case scenario he gets hurt again, they release him, plug and play Penix
full atlas
probably, but at least that made "sense"
Not necessarily
Why pay Kirk $100m guaranteed if all you was going to do was draft a QB when you could’ve gotten a bridge guy in Gardner or Darnold
Hell they gotten could’ve gotten Howell for a 5th
full atlas
kirk is coming off a big injury, hes old, and theyve got a lot invested in him. ...
I’d also say most likely he holds up, he’s been an iron man throughout his whole career prior to the Achilles and there’s a decent sample size of QBs coming back from that kinda injury
zealous axle
well just looking at the guys within reason, youve got Odunze and Bowers (you dont really need more receivers), you dont really need a lineman in Fashanu, and McCarthy is a project at least compared to Penix. They couldve taken Turner or Latu but for some reason, probably injuries, they fell.
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well just looking at the guys within reason, youve got Odunze and Bowers (you do...
Edge would’ve been the much more sensible pick imo
Then again ATL can’t develop pass rushers to save their life so most likely it wouldn’t have panned out
zealous axle
i think the worry is that they end up with like a Beasley Jr McKinley or a guy who cant stay healthy like Keanu Neal
and if both these guys already have injury histories, probably better they dont given their luck
(from the falcons POV)
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and if both these guys already have injury histories, probably better they dont ...
That’s the thing though Penix specifically has a very alarming injury history so why not take the bigger team need who also doesn’t have as much of an extensive injury history
They did address edge in the later rounds but I just feel as if was a reach imo
zealous axle
Qb is damn near the one position theyve had some luck at
barring Ridder, naturally
they probably shouldve just traded the pick but from their team needs standpoint, kind of a rock and a hard place
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they probably shouldve just traded the pick but from their team needs standpoint...
Which first round WR are you most highest on
zealous axle
MHJ
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People say Pearsall was a reach but I honestly think it wasn’t the worst move considering Aiyuk might be on the move
zealous axle
Nabers is a 50/50 to me, and Odunze will probably just be like, Mike Williamsy
zealous axle
hes got the tools but i just dont know?
id have to watch him in the NFl
MHJ im like lmao no shit
I wanted the pats to draft him honestly
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hes got the tools but i just dont know?
What doesn’t he have in his arsenal for you to question him tho
Like there’s certain things in his game he does better then MHJ
zealous axle
What doesn’t he have in his arsenal for you to question him tho
its pure hunchage
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I wanted the pats to draft him honestly
Wouldn’t have been the worst move but QB was desperately needed
zealous axle
Yeah but that team has jack diddly
like WR1 Kendrick fucking Bourne and an o-line turntable is just not the formula
given the rest of their draft im like..ok with the maye pick, but im not thrilled unless they actually draft some more high end talent next year
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like WR1 Kendrick fucking Bourne and an o-line turntable is just not the formula
Yea Bourne I’m not high on coming off a torn ACL, Douglas showed flashes and Baker who knows how he ends up
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its pure hunchage
You high on BTJ?
zealous axle
same deal as Nabers
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What about Coleman & Worthy
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given the rest of their draft im like..ok with the maye pick, but im not thrille...
Well we know the defense isn’t an issue, draft a tackle and a couple more WRs and they should be good
Ofc this is banking on whether or not Maye pans out
zealous axle
best case scenario, Coleman is like Devante Parker or some shit
Worthy might be fine but apparantly the Chiefs had a one hit wonder with Tyreek
because every other receiver to come through is either a Mahomes merchant or genuinely shit
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Hes slower than NKeal Harry and somehow more reliant on jump balls
He had the best top speed in the gauntlet iirc and has sure hands
I think he’ll work well as an short / intermediate guy, he’s not gonna be someone who’ll burn you downfield if it’s not a contested catch
Def N’Keal vibes from him though
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Worthy might be fine but apparantly the Chiefs had a one hit wonder with Tyreek
If he’s even 1/3 of what Tyreek is league is cooked imo
zealous axle
top speed sure but his 10 yard split is just middle of the pack, and he had the second slowest 40 time among participating WRs
like, mind you, 6'6 and about 10-20 pounds heavier johnny wilson was faster
but not an ounce of hype about him
so if hes get meh acceleration and isnt really gonna burn a guy ever, what else CAN he do besides be the NFL equal to like Zion.
zealous axle
so if hes get meh acceleration and isnt really gonna burn a guy ever, what else ...
lobs and jack shit else
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top speed sure but his 10 yard split is just middle of the pack, and he had the ...
I’m honestly not that high on 40 times imo, Puka ran a 4.5 Multiple other cases around the league (Keenan, Kupp, Thomas)
zealous axle
its just clown shit to me to draft coleman when you literally couldve drafted the whole foods version of him in Legette
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so if hes get meh acceleration and isnt really gonna burn a guy ever, what else ...
Def would’ve rather had Mitchell or Ladd but I don’t truly hate the pick given Allen will be throwing to him + he can make anybody look serviceable
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its just clown shit to me to draft coleman when you literally couldve drafted th...
Agreed although I think him going to Carolina just made too much sense
zealous axle
even then when you mention some of these slower guys LIKE Kupp, Keenan, im assuming thats Michael Thomas. Theyre all either faster than Coleman, more agile than Coleman, have bigger hands than Coleman and at the bare minimum every single one of them had genuinely historic college careers
the only real exception to that is Kupp, and even then that guy can stop on an atom, something than Coleman has not shown he can do.
so he can get way more seperation because of that alone.
the only thing Coleman has over any of these guys from a prospect view is his jump ball ability
which is pretty much what NKeal Harry's thing was
and he doesnt really have that ability to pull an MHJ and just go "fffffFUCK YOUR PRESS COVERAGE"
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the only thing Coleman has over any of these guys from a prospect view is his ju...
So essentially you think he’s ass?
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which is pretty much what NKeal Harry's thing was
It’s scary how similar they are
Jumpball merchants and both can’t separate
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So essentially you think he’s ass?
Or most likely to bust out of the first couple WRs selected for better terms
zealous axle
probably lean towards "he ass"
theres a chance because josh allen could just say will him to be good?
but like, lmao I have no faith
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but like, lmao I have no faith
Favorites to make it out both the AFC & NFC?
zealous axle
fuck idk man
i can say im fairly sure NOT the ravens, bills, and and dolphins for the AFC and NOT the Buccs, Eagles, Cowboys, and Rams for the NFC
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i can say im fairly sure NOT the ravens, bills, and and dolphins for the AFC and...
Why not Eagles
You don’t think Jalen’s in that elite echelon?
Or Siranni’s a fraud
zealous axle
its all in the coaching for them. they fucked up and let their good talent go
Talent wise im sure losing the 2nd best center in the NFL hurts among other things
(ragnow ftw)
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its all in the coaching for them. they fucked up and let their good talent go
Wait who walked
They signed Saquon and drafted Mitchell & Dejean to replace slay and bradberry eventually
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Wait who walked
Unless your referring to Kelce
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Talent wise im sure losing the 2nd best center in the NFL hurts among other thin...
Ahh
You believe Lamar can lead Baltimore to a chip or?
zealous axle
nope
zealous axle
Wait who walked
Steichen and Gannon
the defense instantly shitted its pants and the offense got obviously worse even if it looked better on paper
and honestly, Kellen Moore doesnt move me and Vic Fangio does nothing but make me think lower of the staff
as for Lamar? Dak with a 40 time.
If your team cant beat Mahomes and scrubs with the best defense in the NFL and a top tier offense, youre just not gonna win ever as long as you have to face Mahomes. Honestly, i dont see them beating a healthy Bengals either.
zealous axle
and honestly, Kellen Moore doesnt move me and Vic Fangio does nothing but make m...
the eagles are just grasping at air at this point for the coaching staff. They hired fucking Matt Patricia to solve their woes last season.
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Steichen and Gannon
Ah I thought you was referring to this off-season
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and honestly, Kellen Moore doesnt move me and Vic Fangio does nothing but make m...
Agreed on Moore, but why not Fangio?
zealous axle
ANYBODY couldve told them "bro what the fuck are you doing" but they did it anyways because theres just that little talent on the staff right now. It pretty much just feels like Sirianni has become Sisyphus rolling his stone up Tartarus
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as for Lamar? Dak with a 40 time.
Foul
zealous axle
Perhaps, but im betting that as time goes on Lamar cope will meet reality.
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Perhaps, but im betting that as time goes on Lamar cope will meet reality.
It actually honestly isn’t that bad of a comparison
Both can’t get it done despite stacked teams, Dak is the better passer tho
I think people give Lamar somewhat of a pass due to him not having a good WR room as of late and 2021’s injury ravaged season for Baltimore
zealous axle
Agreed on Moore, but why not Fangio?
I just cant give Fangio credit for any of his good defenses. Look at like, Brian Flores, making miracles out of old ass Patrick Peterson. Then look at Vic Fangio, who has elite defenses when he has Akiem Hicks, Roquan Smith, Adrian Amos, Khalil Mack, Kyle Fuller, and Eddie Jackson but cant do shit when it comes to having only a couple guys like you saw this year in Miami.
the 2016 bears are an even better example. All the foundations were there for that elite defense in 2018 (had Hicks, Amos, Trevathan, Floyd, and a not quite washed McPhee) but he just..couldnt do shit with it.
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I just cant give Fangio credit for any of his good defenses. Look at like, Brian...
Idk I just think Miami failing to be good post January kinda make people iffy on him
It also didn’t help matters that 2 vital anchors on the dline went down late in the season in Jaelan & Chubbs
zealous axle
its an entire 1-1 ratio of Vic Fangio coaching an already elite defense to Vic Fangio being good to me
Like, no shit you have a good defense. Half the guys you field are pro bowlers lmfao
but you see a guy like Ed Donatell get fired for Brian Flores and the defense goes from dogshit to meh instantly, with minimal changes
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Like, no shit you have a good defense. Half the guys you field are pro bowlers l...
If they underperform and or are bad this season Sirianni’s 100% gone
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but you see a guy like Ed Donatell get fired for Brian Flores and the defense go...
Glad to see Flores find success after the debacle he had in miami
zealous axle
Flores got fucked
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Flores got fucked
True but then again he didn’t help matters himself
He couldn’t competently coach an offense and he made Tua look ass
muted valley
RIP jacoby jones
alpine grove
I feel you, need the Packers back in action
sacred burrow
I saw a clip of the SNF song and everytime I hear it I'm like damn I don't realize how good football is till it's the offseason lmao
I always flip flop NBA or NFL what I like more when one is in full stride
September-Feb NFL, Feb-Sep NBA
alpine grove
I think for me, I love both, but NBA I have been watching since 2010 so I feel like it holds a more special place.. NFL I’m very into now, but I didn’t watch seriously until like 2021.. before then, just playoffs
sacred burrow
I think the peaks of the NFL > for me, it also helps GB is in such a great spot rn
Sometimes during the 82 game reg szn there hits a dry spot
alpine grove
I think the peaks of the NFL > for me, it also helps GB is in such a great spot ...
oh yea no question, I love both rn for sure 😭
sacred burrow
GB is just such a fun team to be a fan of rn
alpine grove
Gotta enjoy these times
obsidian stone
ive been watching pack since i could talk
alpine grove
GB is just such a fun team to be a fan of rn
All I ask is for ONE SB 🙏🏽
sacred burrow
Can't complain about basically anything lmao
obsidian stone
shoulda had several more SBs
sacred burrow
Definitely was a football fan before basketball too
sacred burrow
I really love this core we have rn I hope they win one
It's rare you accumulate this variety of young talent kinda all at the same time
And nobody is unlikeable
alpine grove
It's rare you accumulate this variety of young talent kinda all at the same time
frrr
alpine grove
And nobody is unlikeable
The vibes are immaculate, and they will only get better as the season goes
November or December until playoffs time for the packers this past season was PEAK
I could not get enough of coverage for the team
sacred burrow
December time football really is peak
Playoff ideas are starting to form the games matter so much, it's cold out the vibes r good
Packers preseason is less than 3 weeks away 👀
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It's rare you accumulate this variety of young talent kinda all at the same time
Love the guy headed forward?
Well obviously but do you think he’ll break the market?
sacred burrow
I mean he will get paid a lot
As he should
Idk anything about NFL financials compared to the NBA, I assume since many of our guys r still young and without larger contracts the sooner the better to get competitive
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Idk anything about NFL financials compared to the NBA, I assume since many of ou...
Yea thankfully GB doesn’t have many people to pay, most if not all of the WR room are on rookie contracts
Them and Houston have the brightest futures
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Stef and Mixon might be washed but 3 headed monster at least for sure
zealous osprey
Nfc north will be intense this year
I'm excited for nfl to come back believe it or not
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Nfc north will be intense this year
Vikings and bears will both be ass
Detroit and GB run that division now
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It pains me to say it, but the bears may be dangerous this year
Maybe not winning the division dangerous, but definitely could steal a game or two from better teams
sacred burrow
It's possible
obsidian stone
no they wont
sacred burrow
They have the pieces if Caleb plays well
sacred burrow
But it's the bears so Caleb won't be good
obsidian stone
still same shitty playobook
same facilities
packers will always own that bum franchise
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still same shitty playobook
Didn’t they fire their OC?
sacred burrow
If Caleb does manage to be good they can be ok
obsidian stone
it doesnt matter
theyll never make a good coaching hire either
caleb is gonna take a year or 3
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Mitch looked good as a rookie before completely falling off, maybe they’ll get a good year out of Caleb too!
full atlas
It pains me to say it, but the bears may be dangerous this year
I mean one would hope so
That’s a stacked WR room for a rookie to be walking into and the defense is alright
zealous osprey
Vikings and bears will both be ass
I think the bears will be tough. They had won of the better defenses and have an offense that continues to improve on paper. The coaching concerns me but I could see the bears being a solid 7 seed. We nearly swept the lions last year with fields and getsy
zealous osprey
no protection
Oline improved immensely last year. Should be better this year too
Lions 2 seed
Packers 5 seed
Bears 7 seed
Vikings ☠️
zealous osprey
I can see it. The south isn't very good neither is the west
obsidian stone
still, theyll get more wins
sacred burrow
It won't happen 3 teams
We do have a potentially great division tho IF the bears can eventually get good
Big IF
zealous osprey
Bears also have one of the easiest schedules
zealous osprey
It won't happen 3 teams
3/7 is possible. I think recently there was 3/7
olive knot
i dont think theres ever been 3 teams from the same division in to make the playoffs
west is still good, niners are the best team in the nfc, rams will prob get in and the hawks are at least kinda competent
obsidian stone
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https://twitter.com/zacobson/status/1814376153802780943
obsidian stone
lol
olive knot
were getting jake fromm state farm?
obsidian stone
jake dog food
muted valley
https://fixupx.com/mattschneidman/status/1815069462355173702?s=46
He copying stroud fr
frail harness
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https://x.com/MySportsUpdate/status/1815392644593270957
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https://x.com/MySportsUpdate/status/1815392644593270957
So then wtf was the point of showing up to begin with if you didn’t intend on practicing
Attention?
sacred burrow
being with the team I suppose, making a stand
being ready once its signed
could be a lot of things
not practicing becuz of this isn't new, lets just get him paid already
olive knot
its cause you only get fined if you dont show up to the camp
as long as jlo's there, they wont fine him even if he doesnt practice
surreal hare
Yeah I’m not mad about any of it
pulsar ocean
So then wtf was the point of showing up to begin with if you didn’t intend on pr...
clubhouse reasons and fine reasons
all the dudes get why he's doing it
so he still gets to hang out with his bros
muted valley
Have you guys been enjoying your team's training camp
obsidian stone
no
pulsar ocean
yea
jlo was expected and isn't a big deal
reports on actual player play wise are good
muted valley
alpine grove
woeful topaz
https://fixupx.com/NFL/status/1815776062917300383
smoky bough
https://fixupx.com/NFL/status/1815776062917300383
He reminds me of wentworth miller for some reason
woeful topaz
He reminds me of wentworth miller for some reason
man's about to break out of fox river fr
woeful topaz
Season 1 of Prison Break
honestly would've been a top show all time if it ended there or with like two more episodes
still love the rest of it don't get me wrong
Twitter
lmaooo
surreal hare
sacred burrow
You sending this made me think it was Love for a second
muted valley
sacred burrow
Last Thursday without football till February
alpine grove
Last Thursday without football till February
Let’s go! Did not know that!
woeful topaz
gettin 1 quarter (probably) of caleb next week
and then hard knocks coming soon after 👀
zealous osprey
Will be in dc so won't be able to watch 😢
woeful topaz
modest quailBOT
https://x.com/rapsheet/status/1816912851015246121?s=46
silver arrow
Love finally got paid
stoic heath
Let’s go!
zealous osprey
Packers got their guy for the next 15 years 😢
muted valley
Packers got their guy for the next 15 years 😢
Not that long
Love going to be 26 in November
zealous osprey
Hope so. Not too sure about this coaching staff
I trust poles and the roster itself but I don't have too much faith in the scheme
muted valley
I trust poles and the roster itself but I don't have too much faith in the schem...
If you guys disappoint this season I think eberflus gone probably
woeful topaz
If you guys disappoint this season I think eberflus gone probably
that is how it goes
draft first round qb
head coach gets fired after rough season
first round qb has to learn a new system again
team struggles
qb gets cut/traded as a scapegoat for the coach - "he's just not the right guy for my system"
draft first round qb
head coach gets fired
zealous osprey
draft first round qb
head coach gets fired after rough season
first round qb has...
The chicago cycle
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@sacred burrow Am I wrong for kinda thinking GB was backed into a corner with this contract?
sacred burrow
I mean technically yea, but it's not the worst corner to be backed into
In theory it's ridiculous to pay somebody for 1/2 a season of play, but in practice it's the only thing we could do...and everybody is confident Love will be great
I doubt the FO is going "man I just don't think he's gonna be good enough but whatever we have to do this"
Team and organization loves him
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In theory it's ridiculous to pay somebody for 1/2 a season of play, but in pract...
Yea like no doubt in my mind at all that Love is a top 10-12 QB at worst but giving him the most expensive QB contract ever for essentially what was half a season of good play is bonkers to me
I get not wanting to get on the QB carousel but man are they banking Love continues to put up numbers
sacred burrow
I mean he was a top 3 QB for 1/2 a season, the odds he regresses into 10-12 is low...like the positives outweighs the negatives hard
We were working with the youngest offensive core in the league
All the WRs will get better, bringing in Jacobs...Love is in the ultimate position to thrive
It makes sense itd take 1/2 a season or some time to get going
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I mean he was a top 3 QB for 1/2 a season, the odds he regresses into 10-12 is l...
We’ll see how the season pans out but as it stands I think I would have about 5-6 QBs comfortably ahead of him
sacred burrow
If he's the 6th best QB, the contract is totally fine
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It makes sense itd take 1/2 a season or some time to get going
His 5th year option was picked up right? I would’ve reckoned GB asks him to replicate the season he had once more, so his contract is 1000% justified But then again there’s also massive risk in that potentially shunning Love and making him even more expensive then what he once was, so it does make sense for them to lock him up now
full atlas
If he's the 6th best QB, the contract is totally fine
Absolutely
sacred burrow
contract aside hes easy to get behind, teammates love him
Rodgers wouldnt have shown up
woeful topaz
In theory it's ridiculous to pay somebody for 1/2 a season of play, but in pract...
it isn't really "half a season" though
robust cloak
Acting like we weren't a better defense away from a potential sb appearance his first season starting
sacred burrow
ong
woeful topaz
so the context is: first year starter, the offense is entirely first or second year players except for the RB room and... center?
and we have
2 great games, 3 bad games, a good game, 4 mediocre games, and then literally a top 3 qb for the remainder of the season
like you wanna tell me having davante adams (or a receiver more of a veteran than romeo doubs) wouldn't have made a difference in the first half of the year
woeful topaz
Acting like we weren't a better defense away from a potential sb appearance his ...
that too, we put up a better fight against the niners than the lions did and had beaten the lions on thanksgiving
robust cloak
that too, we put up a better fight against the niners than the lions did and had...
I believe we would've beat the Lions but no game is a gimme and the Lions like to be good against us every now and again so I couldn't say with certainty
woeful topaz
absolutely not a gimme
but if we had pulled it off against the niners? our pass rush was feeling pretty good and goff would have gotten similarly rattled
olive knot
they didnt pick up loves 5th yr option anyways, they reworked his deal to give him less guaranteed but with more incentives
and yeah if we waited another year we'd have had to pay him more, he'd have to play like a bottom 5 QB for the entire season for us not to pay him
woeful topaz
it only saves you money, anyone that's "a franchise qb" is going to be getting this kinda money
lawrence played his entire rookie contract and has as many playoff wins as love, got the same amount of money
tua has 0 playoff wins in his entire rookie contract, got approximately the same amount of money
Lawrence ($55MM/5 years)
Love ($55MM/4 years)
Tagovailoa ($53MM/4 years)
Goff ($53MM/4 years)
Cousins ($45MM/4 years)
recent qb contracts
out of all these i'm absolutely taking love
lawrence frankly i don't think is that good
tua is carried by having the best skill position rooms in football
goff doesn't perform well under pressure or out of system
cousins is old and coming off an achilles
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lawrence played his entire rookie contract and has as many playoff wins as love,...
One can argue these were overpays tho especially in Lawrence’s case
He hasn’t done shit since he stepped foot in the league
woeful topaz
One can argue these were overpays tho especially in Lawrence’s case
it's not an overpay though, it's the market dictating what a franchise qb gets
it's just always record setting because the cap is going up so much
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it's not an overpay though, it's the market dictating what a franchise qb gets
Eh idk
Dak and Love at least proved their extensions, Lawrence regressed quite a bit from the season before and the FO decided to offer him an extension
woeful topaz
i agree that lawrence is overpaid tbh
but the jags are desperate to have something good that they're willing to say he's a top 5 qb
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Top 5 qb is insane 😭
muted valley
I mean he was a top 3 QB for 1/2 a season, the odds he regresses into 10-12 is l...
Top 10 for him next season is very likely
muted valley
zealous osprey
Basically
woeful topaz
lol
next fulcrum
https://fxtwitter.com/tjnextwave/status/1818623508794294465?s=46
now wait until he hears how much our WR room costs
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Stroud #20 on top 100
Bit high ngl
sacred burrow
What's worse is Jefferson at 18
Pretty low
Ik they rate games played highly into the equation tho
Don't players vote for it tho?
sacred burrow
if its just players then Jefferson is ridiculously low
if other ppl vote and they take into factor games played which they def do its fine
olive knot
I feel like it is players only but they probably also run the original list through some algorithm that automatically knocks people down based on the number of games they missed last season
cause idk why players wouldn’t think he wasn’t still a top 10 player just cause he missed half a season, he still managed to go over 1k yds too
muted valley
Ik they rate games played highly into the equation tho
But not for rodgers
sacred burrow
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sacred burrow
I love this clip
muted valley
i mean he is undersized but still
He should watch devonta smith
Crazy how texans drafted one of the smallest wrs and one of the smallest edges in 2023 and they were both pretty good
muted valley
!gameday
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WAKE UP BABE, IT'S GAMEDAY!
https://tenor.com/view/bucks-in-six-bucks-giannis-bucksplayoffs-bucks-finals-gif-21651185
muted valley
no caleb, snooze
But davis mills
woeful topaz
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sacred burrow
new kickoff rule is about to debut
sacred burrow
its kinda ugly
obsidian stone
yep
sacred burrow
they cant do onsides?
you can do onsides but you have to notify the other team of it
also lame
no more random offsides to start a game or half. like that iconic superbowl moment
No Fun League
obsidian stone
thats stupid
sacred burrow
supposedly this kickoff will lead to more returns and less injuries
obsidian stone
thats like telling basketball that tips are... a coin flip now
sacred burrow
Texans jerseys r clean
sacred burrow
wdym
obsidian stone
what happen to cj
sacred burrow
they arent gonna play him much at all in the preseason
sacred burrow
this is also like the "extra" preseason game
obsidian stone
ugh
for some reason i thought they shortened preseason
and that oplayers would still play em
sacred burrow
gotta dig thru a month of this
sacred burrow
Derrick Henry is a Raven
obsidian stone
wut
sacred burrow
every time I hear that im like damn
obsidian stone
crazy
sacred burrow
Saquon is an Eagle
thats another big change
Bears got torched
commentators more hype for the upcoming kickoff then the TD
im with them
obsidian stone
yea announcers are fighting for their jobs now
sacred burrow
never really cared for joe buck and troy aikman
but their voices r imprinted in my head
Nantz and Romo + Tirico and Collinsworth
🐐
mint edge
Buck and Troy simply call the game with no style. Nothing special but serviceable
sacred burrow
Gus Johnson is really fun, but ive only really seen him do college
mint edge
Nantz and Romo are the fun team
sacred burrow
Tirico and Collinsworth to me represent the "big game" commentators
mint edge
Exactly
sacred burrow
I think theyre my favorite
mint edge
Collinsworth is the voice of football for me
sacred burrow
absolutely
supposedly lots of ppl dislike him a lot
ig he doesnt really bring much extra...I just cant imagine anybody else doin it
how am I just hearing Tank Dell got shot and was healthy a week later
olive knot
Gus Johnson is really fun, but ive only really seen him do college
it felt like he was calling all the afc south divisional matchups a couple of years ago but yeah he only does college stuff now
sacred burrow
love the clips where he just yells random words
muted valley
We lost 😢
muted valley
But davis mills is him
sacred burrow
According to NFL players Lamar Jackson > Mahomes
CTE League is getting out of hand
woeful topaz
in fairness
lamar won mvp
but yeah the top 100 continues to be a popularity contest
muted valley
According to NFL players Lamar Jackson > Mahomes
And tyreek #1 😭
acoustic pilot
Lamar and Tyreek were better than Mahomes in the regular season which was the measure
Tyreek was so good that at one point people thought a WR would actually receive the MVP
zealous osprey
Top 100 voter fatigue 
muted valley
Lamar and Tyreek were better than Mahomes in the regular season which was the me...
Tyreek didn't even win opoy tho
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https://x.com/AdamSchefter/status/1819791555135242352
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lamar won mvp
The most meh mvp season I’ve seen in a while ngl
His passing numbers weren’t great compared to years past mvps
sacred burrow
Seems like Aiyuk is going to the Browns or Pats if he wants out
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https://x.com/petethamel/status/1820831234827636877?s=46
zealous osprey
https://fxtwitter.com/petethamel/status/1820831234827636877
Pitbull stadium 😭
robust cloak
Tbh that’s pretty cheap
Probs banking on the name drawing in extra attention
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https://www.reddit.com/r/49ers/s/rdXRqrexjk
surreal hare
zealous osprey
https://fixupx.com/kar052584/status/1820849732253552830?s=46&t=unLZzySZvCsk339mv...
Excited for this!
modest quailBOT
https://twitter.com/ruiterwrongfan/status/1820939335757083055?s=46
woeful topaz
couldn't happen to a nicer guy
zealous osprey
Watson is so washed. Missing out that year did a number on him
modest quailBOT
https://twitter.com/jourdanrodrigue/status/1820951587067720014
surreal hare
Hope they’re more accurate than my tire sensors
frail harness
?
surreal hare
Don’t think there’s much of a question
frail harness
Seems a bit fishy Mr Williams
woeful topaz
caleb you paint your nails you're part of what that dude considers woke 😭
robust cloak
caleb you paint your nails you're part of what that dude considers woke 😭
He considers the whole NFL woke like
woeful topaz
He considers the whole NFL woke like
fellas is it woke to watch 22 men run into each other for hours at a time
surreal hare
fellas is it woke to watch 22 men run into each other for hours at a time
But the pants
Sorry token straight woman
woeful topaz
But the pants
mlb pants are ultra woke
surreal hare
Had to
surreal hare
mlb pants are ultra woke
woeful topaz
Sorry token straight woman
i'm bi so we're speaking the same language
pulsar ocean
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https://twitter.com/espn/status/1821564834510467488?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwc...
obsidian stone
wow
zealous osprey
https://fxtwitter.com/espn/status/1821564834510467488
Pain
modest quailBOT
https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1821590803439034475
woeful topaz
got their aiyuk replacement, nice
alpine grove
I think just chosen Anderson but they calling him a vet haha
woeful topaz
Veteran Chosen Anderson is his name?
it's robbie chosen now
robbie anderson --> chosen anderson (jersey #1) --> robbie chosen (presumably because he realized chosen anderson won't make his jersey say chosen 1)
muted valley
got their aiyuk replacement, nice
They're trying to get sutton from broncos
zealous osprey
https://fxtwitter.com/_CeeDeeThree/status/1821690553828069475
Valid
woeful topaz
modest quailBOT
https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1821960889420898814
woeful topaz
colts are taking down the 2014 afccg participant banner 😞
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man was like 3rd on the *slot receiver* depth chart lol
Wasn’t he WR2 last year
That ankle injury just cooked em
sacred burrow
He just made a really nice throw again
next fulcrum
I saw a Colts jet hangered at the appleton airport last night 🤔
zealous osprey
https://vxtwitter.com/elitetakes_/status/1822321636906823955?s=46&t=JDxFDYea0_WC...
Caleb is him. If we find a way to mess this up...
muted valley
Caleb is him. If we find a way to mess this up...
Chicago is cursed for qbs
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Caleb is him. If we find a way to mess this up...
I wouldn’t necessarily say he’s him just yet until reg seasons here
Pickett looked goated last preseason, come start of the season he was dogshit
surreal hare
Caleb is him. If we find a way to mess this up...
I always love the unbridled optimism of a bears fan
zealous osprey
I wouldn’t necessarily say he’s him just yet until reg seasons here
He has the talent which is what I referred to. Good field vision and decision-making, big arm, good accuracy, doesn't hold the ball as long as fields did, is mobile enough. Unlike our last three qbs, Fields, Mitch, and Cutler, Caleb is extremely well rounded so if for some reason we can't make it work with him, I'm gonna be upset lol. Whether his talent directly translates to the nfl reg season is a matter of time
zealous osprey
I always love the unbridled optimism of a bears fan
The only thing I can do as a bears fan 
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He has the talent which is what I referred to. Good field vision and decision-ma...
Yea kid definitely looks the part can’t lie
But I have doubts he can overcome the atrocity of an organization that is currently the bears. We’ll see next month
zealous osprey
But I have doubts he can overcome the atrocity of an organization that is curren...
Yeah, there are systemic trends within organizations that people fail to take into consideration. We are under the same underwhelming ownership so I wouldn't be surprised
woeful topaz
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https://x.com/PLeonardNYDN/status/1822658971108319662
woeful topaz
look away, giants fans
obsidian stone
he wouldnt be taking a snap out here today if he had been here? wut
yea that sounds worse
basically "we good without u bae"
woeful topaz
"you're not missed, it doesn't put any pressure on us"
woeful topaz
https://fxtwitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1823065800036479212
from what i've heard reddick's
agent was like "yeah my guy will show up while negotiating"
but that may just be jets propaganda
sacred burrow
Wow JJ McCarthy needs knee surgery already
He had knee soreness over the weekend then took an MRI and now needs surgery
woeful topaz
modest quailBOT
https://x.com/AdamSchefter/status/1823395851214929973
woeful topaz
yeah wtf
sacred burrow
It's a torn meniscus
surreal hare
Yeah was just gonna post
robust cloak
https://fxtwitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1823395851214929973
Fuck that's so lame
next fulcrum
Dammit, that sucks so much
olive knot
damn it sounded like he’d just be limited for a couple weeks not even 24 hrs ago and now he needs full blown surgery, awful news
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https://x.com/AdamSchefter/status/1823395851214929973
Poor typical Vikings
When can they ever have nice things
Excluding lucking into Jettas
woeful topaz
yep
woeful topaz
modest quailBOT
https://x.com/rapsheet/status/1823777373915132257?s=46
woeful topaz
jj out for the year
surreal hare
Yikes
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https://x.com/rapsheet/status/1823777373915132257?s=46
Welp
Darnoldball boutta feed vikings fans families this upcoming season
woeful topaz
heal up my glorious king
god willing you'll be traded to a team that isn't The Enemy
woeful topaz
@ vikings fans
surreal hare
Maybe that bears fan can sell them some winners juice
sacred burrow
Cursed offseason
full atlas
wtf is going on
God hates the Vikings
robust cloak
Goddamn it's no fun playing the Vikings if they're going to be injured like this
woeful topaz
they said addison's might not be serious
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https://x.com/adamschefter/status/1824174075692175469?s=46
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Wtf