Empyrean Onslaughts and Codices

[sour swan]

You'll never convince people THEIR RNG isn't targetted or stolen/borrowed!

[spark token]

There is just a hidden Luck stat that is generated on character creation. It would explain why certain characters consistently have good luck while the rest are destined to fight for the proverbial scraps. Just like real life.

[wraith salmon]

Nidal open rolled a negative.

[boreal raven]

somehow he positive open rolled 22,369,622 times, unfortunately that wrapped around the maxint value at around 2.15 billion and became -2.15 billion

maybe whent he 64 bit conversion happens he'll find legendaries on every search.

[frosty lion]

the true solution for the RNG is to switch to that new truly random quantum tech that measures 2 qubits.

[rose cliff]

He just found a legendary so by rule he has to wait 30 days before being agitated with his rng

[hybrid turtle]

I accept these terms

[clever carbon]

Your luck stat can be increased. Just +.00001 per run of event entry. So one sewer. You get a plus!

So 100,00 runs will get you +1 in your luck stat!

[proper osprey]

Sounds about right

[formal wharf]

It'd be neat if items occasionally dropped in Ascension grounds, like the disir feathers, valravn quills, etc, that would allow players to occasionally trigger an Onslaught manually. Or some kind of Empyrean encounter, at least.

[cloud socket]

Can there be an ESP channel added similar to Wyrmwatch but for Onslaught?

[wraith salmon]

Players can make any ESP channel they want can't they?

[vague egret]

Yes, just like Wyrmwatch was a player created ESP channel.

[cloud socket]

Neat, I did not read that fine print. Gonna create it now.

[marsh merlin]

Three is already an onslaughts channel called Onslaughts

[cloud socket]

is that a private channel?

[marsh merlin]

No

[cloud socket]

sorry, I missed that with the S, thank you!

[formal wharf]

How do you pick up the new weekly/monthly quests? They're still listed as COMPLETE in my quest list, and talking to the artificer doesn't seem to do anything.

Oh.. I never typed QUEST COMPLETE to claim the rewards. 🤦 I think that means they're on cooldown for another week and month, respectively. Oof..

[agile parcel]

There is no Onslaught currently active.

Codices found this week: 0/10```

[chrome mesa]

That happens for the first minute or so after the timer.

[wraith salmon]

I really don't know how alts survive in an ASC zone when there's an onslaught going. It's....just a lot of mobs. If you're no sporting MC energy, it's not a fun time.

[lavish patio]

So uh... do these Empyrean enemies on the ground (not in the rifts or on the lifts) drop treasure? Normal treasure, I mean. I haven't gotten any from them yet.

[gaunt cove]

I don't think so, but I'll pay better attention.

[rose cliff]

They drop weapons from time to time like any creature

[lavish patio]

Man, they're like 95% of the spawns and it's kinda making normal bounties impossible.
Edit: Not in terms of difficulty, but because the normal creatures just don't exist.

[vale canyon]

absolutely makes normal creature bounties almost impossible, and no treasure/no valuable skins

[lavish patio]

On the bright side, this is the kind of consistently absurd, over-the-top, beautiful screen scroll I've sorely missed ever since they nerfed max-per-area spawn rates because this seems to ignore that.

[sour swan]

Just imagine the ones inside the rifts all throughout the hunting grounds! Now that was brutal. The ones outside are a lot less insane.

[hybrid turtle]

Completing bounties with an active Onslaught is a pointless endeavor, almost every spawn is an Empyrean. When an Onslaught hits HW if I'm playing alts I just log them out.

[sour swan]

Yup. That is what I feared but then I was told they wouldn’t be that frequent. Idk. 🤷

[polar radish]

I did a cannibal task while slaughtering the 500 for the monthly, it took north of 800 kills to get 20 cannibals lol

and I got the last cannibal after the onslaught ended

[hybrid turtle]

Yeah I'm on CD for the monthly and weekly, I'm good on Onslaughts until tomorrow. Once you've been part of a few ship clears you've kind of done it all. Once I get the OSA property codex'd off my legendary I am probably good on the system, but hitting the quests for exp dumps for afk time is nice.

[sour swan]

It’s definitely a challenge from a GM perspective. But perhaps don’t set the requirements so damn high for turning in codices and reduce the rates of these things

[terse fern]

That being said.. we've had 2-3 onslaughts in the HW? And they are not too long. While opinions, playstyles and wants from the game differ, I am ecstatic for something that fundamentally changes play for a bit. I think it'd be even cooler if the onslaughts could spill into towns if not appropriately dealt with - but I do miss the old style invasions.

[sour swan]

While probably not reasonable I’d love an OPT OUT like they gave us with the green death. I can’t target them. They can’t target me. We are just two ships passing in the night.

[hybrid turtle]

Sure, it's not a HW specific thing at all. Onslaughts become 90% of spawns wherever they happen. So, anyone who just wants to hunt their regular zone and not deal with Onslaughts is hosed for 4 hours. That's just how it'll be.

HW may be more disproportionately affected because as the easiest Ascension zone, it's where alts tend to live, and alts in many cases can't deal with Onslaughts

[sour swan]

Anyone that is in ascension should be able to handle the guys on the ground. But it is more the numbers I think.

[hybrid turtle]

I'm not even complaining. If a HW onslaught starts I log alts out. They're just in game to chain bounties for their 50k each week. I can't really do that with onslaughts happening

[vale canyon]

aww come on, you don’t wanna kill a captain in a couple hours with a few rogues? that 10k exp is nice, frees up the rest of your afternoon

also last night was HW so you won’t have to worry about it being there today

[warped atlas]

It does feel like the hunting grounds would be better served with fewer Empyrean spawns in the ascension zones, just don't dial back the engineers. It's kind of forcing Onslaught participation from those that may not want it.
The swarms on the airships are fantastic 😗 👌 , but that's a choice people are making to join

Heck, even just farming some gigas fragments in HW to get back to icemule was near impossible during the Onslaught

[vale canyon]

or just have the Empyreans in one section of an ascension area at a time, so one floor of hive, front or back of ME, one area of HW, one island in SG, and then the rest of the area can still operate as normal

[gaunt cove]

A lot of us signed up for ASC, it was meant to be difficult, this continues to add rotating difficulty to those zones. XP wise we still have capped zones available and for gemstones 3 others during every onslaught rotation for the 4 hours.

[wraith salmon]

The argument "you can just go somewhere else" is such a terrible argument that gets used so often in GS. It's tiring. Someone who gets an hour a night to play, suddenly can't hunt in their preferred zone because of an onslaught. Telling them to just "move somewhere else" is BS.

I'm not complaining about the difficulty of the zone or the creatures, just that the zone is literally flooded with them to the point of making it nigh impossible to hunt there to complete bounties, or for people who aren't overly capped with good/great gear.

[proper osprey]

no worries, onlsaught at the best place right now... SG

[proper osprey]

I usually have extremely limited amount of playtime... I would be happy if onslaught happened on SG more often

[wraith salmon]

Sure, if onslaughts are your jam, that's reasonable.

[gaunt cove]

Is it onslaughts that cause new spawn which disrupt bounties for XP and BPs by shifting it, the difficulty, the interruption of MA routine or a single player routine or something else? I think the answers are diverse, but I don't assume how people feel or assumed intent.

[proper osprey]

Yah bruh even without peanut butter... But I'm easily entertained

[wraith salmon]

The onslaughts flood the zone with creatures. Those creatures make it so that the actual creatures for the zone have significantly reduced spawns. And they flood the zone. Pits of the dead, like most rooms last night had upwards of 4 mobs in every single one. So as a solo hunter, every room is a swarm of close to max level creatures. They also drop (virtually) no loot. They also have abilities/spells etc that aren't what I intended to fight in that zone. Disarm for example..

[gaunt cove]

That one is valid. I see that and the spawn interruption. They should maybe be cordoned in a bit better, but it still just focuses the issue to a smaller portion of the ASC area.

[hybrid turtle]

Empyreans having zero loot also makes them super not worth dealing with for people not actively pursuing onslaught content

[spark token]

Onslaughts should have a chance to be anywhere at any hunting ground including major cities and towns to keep the experience diverse and equally disruptive.

Finding where it is could be part of the fun.

[gaunt cove]

Dark, but I like it. Scaling invasions. If they can limit the skill level on the ground maybe it could work like in ASC when they pop.

[hasty tulip]

Someone woke up looking for a fight.

[spark token]

Who doesn't want to see Empyreans orbital dropping into the Kobold village?

[boreal raven]

probably that shaman

[spark token]

Vengeance for the spicey soup that gave away their secrets.

[hasty tulip]

So um...
You note the telltale filaments of a greater binding shimmering around the runic codex. You can sense that the codex is bound to another.

This is suuuuuuper minor, but um... it would be grand if it said who it belonged to (I know that's all oocly), so we could return this thing to the person who unintentionally dropped it.

[clever carbon]

Gemstones say who they belong too. Not a stretch to allow codex

[manic pebble]

Empyeans should take the elven cities.

Cuz elves

[terse fern]

Bring it.

[warped atlas]

small bug.... but i keep getting this messaging, but it's only a pegasus, no auramancer
Ridden by a radiant-eyed goliath auramancer, a tawny armor-clad pegasus trots in with elegant ease, hooves leaving behind fading pools of colored light.

[wraith salmon]

Maybe the auromancer sees you and is like, no way am I dealing with this and ducks into the shadows.

[hasty tulip]

Pegasus mounts RW 2027?

[indigo lynx]

When I get a HW bounty and onslaughts are on then I usually just switch to non-bounty hunting. So kill ~10 critters then rest for 10 minutes. Its not really that bad as you are missing bounties but you are still getting "normal" experience gain.

[polar radish]

Lots of super fast really poor experience, but it works

[spark token]

Only 20 years behind WoW

[hasty tulip]

They literally introduced that mount into D4, too.

[hybrid turtle]

Get a load of this guy playing GS3

[vale canyon]

does the Captain wear spells? or at least 1 spell?

[gaunt cove]

Don't think so. Auchand has built them spell-less since SG a lot of the time. It's innate.

[spark token]

@hybrid turtle I'm coming for you. Just did an entire Onslaught and both Weekly Quests and didn't even find a Codex.

[hybrid turtle]

Yeah that is pretty tough. Didn’t even get one off the captain? I thought that one was guaranteed

[spark token]

Nadda

[noble talon]

@spark token there was a bug on your codex drop. You around at present?

[spark token]

So uh... what happened?

[noble talon]

Just a bug. Should be fixed now but it cost you those

[spark token]

Thanks for the fix

[gaunt cove]

Group movement bug acting up, when you drag, it seperates the room and people vanish then reappear. I'll see if I can get the room log variance at some point

[frosty juniper]

Wait you can get codex outside of the quests? I’ve only gotten mine through the quests

[gaunt cove]

Random drops from any of the Empyreans, yes

[river parcel]

thus far, I'm getting maybe 85% of my codices from the quest rewards, and I expect that to continue; I don't think I'll ever hit that 10/10 limit from "regular" drops

[stable mango]

If this is true, I've definitely been through a few captains where this hasn't happened, including today.

[frosty lion]

10/10 drops sounds like crazy grinding. Better be good at wiping groups quick!
Enough people have mentioned not getting drops from the captain that it's either bugged or just a higher chance of finding stuff

[ashen plume]

The small burlap sacks given by the artificer for quest completion need to be tossable garbage to prevent piles of sacks on ground in Rawknuckles

[vale canyon]

no, ok yea they should be, but also they are great for giving to the frostling, the endless stash on the floor is handy

[ashen plume]

You risk putting your good thing in sack on floor if not careful

If one goes into the ship via engineer rift, is it easy to get out too or are you trapped on it?

[marsh mica]

there's a rift to get back out on the bottom floor. (and you can fog back to the bottom floor from anywhere on the ship)

[ashen plume]

Are we supposed to be getting ground kill credit for the regional ascension critters during the onslaught too? That seemed odd to me...nice...but odd.

[marsh mica]

yes you are

[mighty breach]

Have we discussed the runestones yet? They have an outsized effect on pures and are tough to dispel.

[agile parcel]

I don't think arrows work against them

[marsh merlin]

Light and hue depart the hovering runestone in a rainbowed flash.  It crashes to the ground and shatters into pale dust.
Roundtime: 1 sec.```
Pures can bap too

[vale canyon]

1 sec RT, hmm, I’ll have to try again, that’s not because of 506 or Tonis?

Kaetel you been keeping track of how many hits it takes to break them?

I think like 4 or 5 but maybe it depends on type of weapon used or user skill

[marsh merlin]

Looks to be about 4 on average. RT not modified by haste

[vale canyon]

appreciated

[gaunt cove]

The Rift was also right after the barrier most of today. Had that funky pathing and a ton of us died on the airship though

[vale canyon]

yea we had a rough go today too, 2 died from open rolls on entrance to Captain

[stable mango]

Missoni and I pretty much just ignore them. Spending 4 combat rounds bashing it isn't worth the effort IMO

[warped atlas]

I also did a captain earlier, today and yesterday, with no codex drops.... i thought it was RNG, are they supposed to happen every time?

Also - i'm curious.... with limited rooms on each level of the ship and the aggressive nature with which people clear mobs - what is going to be the protocol for people who are poaching rooms, either intentionally, or with scripting that doesn't appear to be controlled, is unattentive, or some other issue....

It's already become pretty apparent that normal codes of conduct or respectful behavior is not going to be a thing for some people in the areas.

With the need to actually clear XX # of mobs, and some of the mechanics with searching kills and vines - it actually has created some problems, and DOES negatively impact others.

[noble talon]

Yeah, it's RNG. There was a bug that was going off a few times earlier today - I caught everyone that was affected by it

[stable mango]

I haven't seen much intentional room poaching.

Mostly I've seen unintended kills from a lack of fire discipline or when the lift drops you at an unexpected moment in the middle of a huge swarm into another swarm and you either don't notice because of scroll or frankly don't want to die, both of which I just give a pass to.

I don't mind if they make the ships themselves more expansive and with possibly multiple ascending and descending lifts though. The room descriptions are cool and I have some hopes that some of the stuff there is for later use.

[wraith salmon]

Speaking of RNG. Someone else got a geode with identical sides. That seems like it should be virtually impossible given the number of combinations, let alone twice in 2 weeks.

[warped atlas]

It’s been isolated to a couple specific individuals. But it’s been consistent.

[marsh merlin]

It isn't really that rare. Based on my finds, we've got a 70% chance for any given jewel to be a single property gem. We have a pool of 60 props that can be single (common + regional) if I counted correctly. 0.7/60is 1.167% of any two jewels having the same single prop

The total overall chance should be higher than that given the remaining 30% of non-single prop jewels also have a non-zero chance to be identical. But I'm not mathy enough for that

[wraith salmon]

You're off a "bit". The odds of a 7/10 followed by a 1/60 being identical twice in a row is (7/600)^2 or .0001361%

[marsh merlin]

What do you mean twice in a row? The events aren't related to each other

[wraith salmon]

Geode side one, followed by geode side two. That's two independent rolls that are identical twice in a row.

Though, you could also run it as a sort of X/Y is known, what's the odds of rolling the same combo again, instead of like 2 independent event. That would get it to 1/600 or like .16%

I wonder how many gems are found each week. I guess if you look at single prop only, and about 150 are found per week, there's like a 2% probability every week for one, if you run it the 2nd way.

So, not insanely improbable at that point.

Though I'd argue, there should be a comparison flag in fixate to make sure it can't happen if it's just true RNG bad luck.

[frosty lion]

P(A∩B)=P(A)⋅P(B) but who knows what A and B actually are. I agree that the math needs a bit of help. Games rarely use the shown odds as the actual math behind the scenes because it's difficult to intuit the actual odds. 80% will always feel less than 80%. iirc a true 95% chance tends to feel more like 70%

[noble talon]

Yeah there should probably be something to prevent them from being the same gemstone properties

[worldly plover]

is it safe to take dhu kittens out on ships yet?

[noble talon]

Possibly, but I wouldn't

They are olde magik

[marsh merlin]

They are also...kittens. Leave them at home

[flat widget]

The current set up for onslaughts makes it nearly impossible for a casual player to advance. I can't plan my life around these, and they don't happen often enough for me to be able to log on randomly and hit them more than maybe once or twice a week. Any plans to change how these are set up?

[marsh merlin]

I don't think you're expected to hit them more than once or twice a week

[noble talon]

Yeah, maybe once a week or every other week for casual players I'd expect

[river narwhal]

could we get the first tier 3 codex free so people get hooked

[frosty lion]

Not sure what the codex tiers are geared towards. Guessing Tier 3 is hardcore players who can get their weekly 10/10 in and do it 4+ times a week and the casual is 2-3 Tier 2's a year? 🤷‍♂️

[rose cliff]

I've done a lot of onslaughts and have yet to hit 10/10 in a week. But I'm just enjoying doing the onslaughts and the codex stuff will just happen whenever I guess but I don't see myself doing a ton of them even if I had the codex juice

[frosty lion]

Yeah, right now I'm mostly doing it for quests and when it's easy to get to. the captain exp is the main motivator to do more than the quests, since codices are rare enough drops I wouldn't waste my time trying to farm.

[marsh mica]

my demon got eaten again this afternoon, so i probably wouldn't bring your fighting kitten yet 🙁

[warped atlas]

Has anyone done the math on how many many years it will take someone to gather enough to make a couple T3 codices doing these once or twice a week?

[indigo lynx]

dammit, i logged on just to get my brooch rubs in (first playtime of new week) and found my weekly gemstone in 7 searches no fixate..... no geode 😢 . Can I get a refund?

but atleast its a 🎉 || Mystic Magnification!||🎉

[stable mango]

I mean, looking at it basically, if you get each of the quests finished each week/month and average 4 additional codices per week, you're looking at 44-45ish codices per month-ish, so roughly a year or so to make two, assuming you have the dust and silver?

[warped atlas]

I guess the saturations from the captains is the motivation and the codices upgrades are just a realllly long game cherry on top

[stable mango]

That's how I'm looking at it, though I've been really enjoying the group dynamics at play when I go in with other people, which has been very fun.

[warped atlas]

I've never grouped consistently with so many different people. It's definitely encouraging it, and setup decently for it

[stable mango]

I've not gone a week with more than 4/10 codices so far, but I'm also not endlessly farming during the time period. I basically just run the ship, quests, and move on.

[stable mango]

Yeah, there was one point last week where we had 1 too many so we had some funky group tactics taking place as we went up dividing for the lifts. It was interesting.

[frosty lion]

Quests alone get you 308 in a year. I'd expect if you're doing enough to finish quests each week then you'd probably find ~400 codices a year. I'd say a more resonable amount is probably ~250 a year, so I'd say 1 tier 3 or 5 tier 2 codices per year.

I believe the maximum amount of codex charges a person can get in a year is 848 if they're able to grind out 10/10 every single week, which depends on a number of factors. Guessing 15-20ish hours a week of mass slaughter onboard a ship?

10/10 is some dedication with the amount of kills you need, how many hours you'd have available that overlaps with the active onslaught, and travel time to the hunting area.

So yeah, I'd lean towards considering tier 3 unattainable to most and tier 2 is the practical target. ofc, if your expectation is 3-5 years to tier 3 codex your gemstones then tier 3 would work. Does give a better chance of getting gemstones with all useful properties to you vs codicing a bad one

[vale canyon]

frankly I don’t even think 10/10 is possible even if you hunted nonstop for four hours for every onslaught, the drop rate isn’t high enough imo (not that I care or think it should be changed), I’m still having just as much fun doing the onslaughts after my 7th or 8th as I did on the first, every time there seems to be new challenges, new groups, lots of new friends, lots of comradery, devs did an amazing job on these imo

[spark token]

I've hit 10/10 every week so far, but it's... not enjoyable. My wrists certainly aren't enjoying it. I don't think I'm going to (be able to) keep it up week after week.

[wraith salmon]

I've opted out, the hill is too high for the benefit. (both codexes and silver cost).

[hybrid turtle]

I can't imagine hitting 10/10, I'm just going to do an onslaught sometimes if I'm in game when it happens, it's not in SG (lol), and I've got the free time to put into it. I'll eventually codex my OSA property off my legendary, and from that point I'll just knock out the quests for handy afk absorbing exp.

[mighty breach]

I agree. The lift drops you into the room after an intense round of nonstop combat so many people are still attacking and don't even see that the lift has reached the next floor. There is also a lot of lag for groups so people see creatures on their screen and attack but the group leader has moved through rooms and they end up attacking other rooms. It's generally not intentional

[desert elbow]

I mean I berserk in the lifts...so I will be that guy should my rounds continue once we get to the top of the lift. apologies in advance

[mighty breach]

My weapon reactions fire due to evade so i can be running through HW and get attacked in a room with someone else and fire the bow automatically. its one of those things lol

[sour swan]

If that is a script you can turn that off...if that is a weapons cript - you can just not be in forward or greater. There ya go - solved.

[mighty breach]

turn off my weapon reaction script? blasphemy

i haven't been out of offensive stance since 2016

[sour swan]

Ahh - Well your response seemed like it was "one of those things you can't avoid" which...it clearly is. But I misunderstood. It is more like..."one of those things you can't be bothered to avoid"

[desert elbow]

I mean if people are getting upset by someone coming in and taking a swing at a no-loot having critter in a mob of 10+...I think they should chill

[mighty breach]

yeah. it's not a big enough issue for it to matter in that scenario. usually i talk to the person and they blow it off because they understand

there are 5 mobs in every room in onslaughts. i wouldnt care personally. And I hide a lot so I get poached all the time. Disk and crate in the room and all that. its not that big of a deal.

[sour swan]

People absolutely need issues to get upset about! Let this be one!

[warped atlas]

I dunno, i'm pretty chill.... and the scenarios you guys are all presenting are not what's happening.

I'm also just asking what we, as the community, want the collective courtesy and protocol to be if someone continuously keeps poaching kills from a room (not fresh off the lift, not errant flares or weapon fire from moving through rooms, and not accidental swings from grouped members because the leader moved, and they've been asked to stop).

If we're all okay with it being a free for all, that's cool, i'll just kill everything I see on sight too.

[hybrid turtle]

Okay, KS monk definitely can't solo even the first captain, at least not at 60m exp. Lol. Seemed to be going okay but I got put in RT once and just immediate death spiral.

[still raptor]

I vote free for all.

[desert elbow]

free for all and juice the spawn rate by...10% 🙂

[still raptor]

But I'm also biased that I didn't like what happened with the wyrm, and would prefer to see it open and inclusive.

[spark token]

I think the pace is a little too frenetic and spawn rates are high enough that normal etiquette can kinda go out the window. So far everyone has been super understanding and reactions have been more along the lines of, "Girl, same."

[warped atlas]

FYI - the pegasus entry messaging is kind of goofed for all other mobs, not restricted to auromancers

(But only a pegasus showed up)```

[spark token]

I've noticed the same bug. There is practically never a rider present.

[boreal raven]

i think everyone screws up sometimes and it's no big deal. Some people screw up all the time and that is also not ok. and if you're one of those people and you always get a "yeah we get it" at least some of those are "yeah we get it [but you do this constantly and it's actually annoying but it's just not worth talking to you about that cause you won't change probably]"

[spark otter]

this situation applies to the whole of gemstone hunting. there's always gonna be some person/squad who just blithely ignores basic ettiquette and ignore any request or suggestion to clean up their act.

[boreal raven]

i do need to put an alert or something for myself for when i get kicked out of the elevator. i've definitely a couple times at least been ejected and didn't notice and just kept blasting then it was like oh... well, this is awkward

[spark otter]

this one dude and his like dozen other PCs always cast 2-3 screens worth of text when they come across me in a hunting area. Over the last like year I've asked for it to stop, I've reported them for obnoxiously bad scripting. nothing happens, same problem every single time i come across them.

Edit: sorry... off topic, i'll stop.

[ashen plume]

Increase the weekly quest codex values to 8 for each and eliminate the weekly random drops. There is then no good reason to farm onslaughts after an hour or two. Less crowds.

[warped atlas]

Does the number of kills required per level to enter the arch go up?

Fresh off the lift for #3
[You have not proven yourself against the Empyrean forces. You have 102 kills remaining on this airship.]

[hybrid turtle]

Codices found this week: 5/10On my monk, all today. Pretty dece. Just doing his monthly quests, no captains.

[sour swan]

Don't those plunderers stealth??

[marsh mica]

the bug occurs with auramancers and diviners too

[spark otter]

also happens with the engineers. I reported it happening about a week ago, didn't see any response
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[warped atlas]

Sometimes, I swear I see Myharl riding one of those pegasus too, but then I look again and he's not there

[marsh mica]

also, it appears the captain is susceptible to the dark catalyst (719) crit bug that used to affect the wyrm. earlier, one died prematurely to "massive system shock"

[wraith salmon]

Yup. I legit had to buy a custome vine spell for my ranger because there was this guy in OTF who refused to stop auto dispelling "vine".

[chrome mesa]

For like the third time in the last week, I've killed the third captain and not received a codex. Isn't it supposed to be guaranteed?

Is every character in your group supposed to get one? Or is it just guaranteed that one character gets one?

[vale canyon]

not guaranteed for any character in your group, it’s RNG with higher chance of drop vs normal empyreans

[boreal raven]

It was never guaranteed, just a chance. Probably maybe should be a guarantee at least for the final one.

[chrome mesa]

Got it, thanks 🙂

[hybrid turtle]

The codex mountain to be climbed is so tall that I don't think a guaranteed drop for killing (3rd encounter) the captain seems unreasonable at all

[ashen plume]

When will empyrean bane flares become available at Duskruin?

[wraith salmon]

Who in their right mind pays for bane flares.

[sour swan]

When did bane flares fall out of fashion?

[marsh merlin]

Since GUB went away. Also flares in specific are likely the least common variation of offensive bane, I suspect most people prefer +AS or +Weighting

But also bane just too expensive still.

[warped atlas]

i've never been able to stomache adding a bane to an item that only works for a super small subset of the critters in game.

Even if it was at 1/2 price, I wouldn't be able stomache it.

Even MORE so now that the game design is actively encouraging us to move to different areas and hunt different things

[stable mango]

I'm happy I won the bane for my weapon at a raffle, and yeah, I took the AS, but I might prefer the flares in the end run these days so I've been debating changing it over.

[stable mango]

Just carry 10 different weapons like the rest of us!

Bane slots on gems or bane codices would be interesting though as well. Not necessarily strictly as/ds/flare stuff, but you could do some funky things like undead might have a chance to be turned(though this version drops loot), extraplanar could take banishment damage or if they're under a certain level of health be portaled back to their plane, etc.

[wraith salmon]

Like Kaetel said, with GUB. It's 400K, to be better against one type. If it was like 1/4 of that, maybe. Id love to see bane reworked so that it's like X to add bane, then Y to add a type and was switchable out of combat. Assuming X and Y wee reasonable, that would maybe make bane worth it.

Bane gems/codexes would be interesting too.

[vale canyon]

swap regionals for banes, now we’re talking

[wraith salmon]

It would certainly be an improvement to them.

[marsh merlin]

Yeah, BANE needs the FLOURISH treatment

[ashen plume]

Why is only one airship landing randomly? After getting consistently destroyed after a few weeks, they should learn to send a few at once in each area.

[warped atlas]

Actually a really solid idea (Swapping regionals for banes --- maybe make it so you can only have one bane active for any particular creature type)

[noble talon]

There are actually 3 airships.... I wonder if that doesn't come through well enough

Each portal is to a new airship

[ashen plume]

Land some in all regions each time..spread out the hunters

Restrict entry onto ship to those who haven't killed the boss yet that month or who haven't completed quest kill count.

[hasty tulip]

I was curious why the random portal colors.
We need empyreans wearing nametag.
"Hi, my name is Earl on Airship Delcivo(ionowhatever empyrean language would name a ship)"

[hasty tulip]

Why would you want this?

[ashen plume]

Folk were already getting frustrated by crowding and etiquette. Schleppping all over Timbuktu to participate isn't great. Some prefer specific local critters as ground fodder too.

[marsh merlin]

I feel like the current rate and rotation feels quite good, myself. Enough variety in times to be able to catch the few I need to finish quests for sweet XP.

[ashen plume]

The quest XP bonus is indeed surprisingly generous.

[warped atlas]

People are also getting frustrated that their hunting grounds are getting massively disrupted. This concept multiplies that.

Onslaughts are not intended for everyone.

[boreal raven]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOcLkkEvBCY - jedi survivor spoilers i guess

[wraith salmon]

Yeah. I could do with less airship chaff on the ground in hw.

[ashen plume]

Unless a new way to reroll just one power off a gemstone with two or three becomes available, codex is the only way, and to get codex one must onslaught. In 3 years when all gemstones are codexed there will need to be something new to chase.

[warped atlas]

Yes.
Much like after a year of finding gemstones some players needed something new to chase (insert Codex!)

Every long lasting game will always have to continue to evolve and dangle new carrots.

We're still running 5-10 new questers through the wyrm quest every week. A lot of people are in completely different stages of this journey.

[wraith salmon]

You'll forgive me if I have zero intent on chasing meh codexes.

[noble talon]

I don't know if he will... but I will

He may be less forgiving

[wraith salmon]

fwiw, overall I appreciate what you built, I just think the rewards are.....exceedingly overpriced for the effort. (And I wish it didn't spam the zone with non-loot bearing chaff)

[fallow igloo]

This is why having them in the current existing hunting grounds is a bad idea in my opinion. Instead of in new areas bordering existing areas with incursions that happen rarely. Forcing more crowding of existing areas in a text based multi-player rpg is truly a bad idea.

[warped atlas]

the crowds in the area haven't been the problem - the # of empyrean mobs spawning vs. normal hunting mobs has been the biggest issue

[boreal raven]

last time i did a HW bounty during an event i just let a normal hunting routine go and didn't try to change anything just for the lolz. i think i killed like 160 emps before i finished a kill 12 valravn bounty

[wraith salmon]

Seems about right

[hybrid turtle]

An onslaught 100% takes over the hunting area for 4 hours for people who actually want to hunt. If you're not interested in Onslaughts, or just want to blast through some bounties, you have to just pick up and leave for a while. So imagine the LOL I LOL'd when someone suggested "hey, what if this happened in all four ASC zones at once, wouldn't that be good? Guys?"

[boreal raven]

oh it was way worse lol.

 _______________________________
| gigas shield-maiden      | 7  |
| gigas berserker          | 3  |
| goliath plunderer        | 26 |
| goliath diviner          | 23 |
| armor-clad pegasus       | 26 |
| goliath engineer         | 17 |
| gigas skald              | 8  |
| goliath auramancer       | 14 |
| black valravn            | 5  |

| shadow-cloaked draugr | ||3|| |

| gold-bristled hinterboar | 1  |
| halfling cannibal        | 1  |
+--------------------------+----+```

I think that was where i gave up / just took back over to do it myself. it was a draugar not valravn lol

[warped atlas]

we saw this morning in HW - people asking "how much longer is this Onslaught?" - "When should I log back in?"

Kind of sucks for them (and I mean that in an empathetic way, not a snarky mean way)

[fallow igloo]

I guess I explained that badly. That's what I'm talking about the empyrean mobs spawn vs normal hunting mobs, combined with more player characters also in the same area. Feels rather crowded, swarmy and line blinding inducing screen scroll.

[stable mango]

I'm pretty sure it's supposed to feel like an invasion, I mean, that's pretty much the entire RP intention behind the Empyrean hitting these hunting areas.

[wraith salmon]

Occasional invasions that disrupt your play are "ok". Regular invasions that do so, not so much so. Especially if you only get to play casually.

[hybrid turtle]

Yeah but in practical terms, if you aren’t doing the quests or seeking codexes, there’s zero reason to engage with it (no loot, even). You can’t meaningfully hunt the normal foes since Empyreans become almost all of the spawns. So people just log off/leave. I’m not saying I have a solution or even that it’s a problem, just that it’s a thing

[river parcel]

going to another hunting ground seems like a perfectly acceptable solution

[worldly plover]

Why don't they hit cities?

[desert elbow]

the poor smols...they'd all get smooshed

[flat widget]

Who are they intended for?

[flat widget]

What IS up with the no loot thing? All creatures like loot.

[warped atlas]

Probably not my question to answer - would need to be devs - but I'm guessing it's people who can actually get through the quests that lead up to it.

[desert elbow]

having to run out of the airship to sell loot would be annoying? so they just skipped it? I dunno lol

[wraith salmon]

Not really.

[flat widget]

This was my first thought. They could be hunting ground adjacent.

[desert elbow]

i mean once a few rifts open do the ground forces need to keep coming other than to complete killcount quests?

[rose cliff]

Whats amusing about the no loot is that plunders know mug and can steal your loot

[warped atlas]

would make sense from RP perspective:

Empyreans: "Attack/Invade!!! ((send ground troops)"
((Rift opens.... adventurers start boarding their ship))
Empyreans: "Return! Defend the ship!"

[desert elbow]

seems like an ok way to keep the non onslaught local hunters happy(er)

[fallow igloo]

I would point out that the FOMO that this event creates is real. Even I feel it after reading how much experience killing three captains can generate. I was a bit gob smacked, it doesn't feel like something that's tenable long term is going to cause even more frustration between those who can get lucky and do these and those who can't. Not good.

[agile parcel]

I like having them in the existing hunting ground -- love that it's an actual invasion

I also like that it might cause some movement between grounds. I feel that's by design. You have both a carrot if you like (the codequois) and the stick (don't stay in the kitchen if you can't stand the heat)

[flat widget]

I kind of do too, but I totally get the frustration. Hard to complete a bounty while dodging Empyrians, and when your time is limited, just doing something else for 4 hours isn't going to work. A good compromise might be to limit the invading forces to one zone within an area. That would be easier to work around. I'm also cool with hunting ground adjacent.

[agile parcel]

Just don't hunt the hard mobs? I don't understand the issue

[flat widget]

This is my biggest concern. A large part of the population will just never be able to participate because they don't have the time to chase them all over the continent, and they don't come around often enough to hunt them only when they happen to show up when/where you hunt normally.

[sour swan]

I was asking a couple times this morning about the HW onslaught! I didn’t mind staying out for what it is worth cause I was making phat lewtz. I appreciated Nidal tolerating my question every 45 min cause I didn’t bother doing the math to figure out when it would be over. But I do have lots of time so it isn’t like I was stressed about finding a time to get into HW to farm for my geodes!

[flat widget]

Do they leave you alone if you don't attack first? They don't. Leaving them alone isn't a practical option.

[sour swan]

Haha. We need not only a player safe version of spells but an Empyrean safe version. Hey. Can we side with the Empyreans?

[agile parcel]

If you want a sterile hunting environment, there are lots of options at cap

[desert elbow]

all Elanthians should be joining their local defense groups to repel the invaders!

service guarantees better gemstone drops...or something. Your sacrifice today will make for a better tomorrow! SIGN UP NOW!

just because you dont have a quest doesnt mean you should be helping to push back the aliens intent on pillaging your fine world!

[sour swan]

Idk. What has Elanthia ever done for me…

[glossy stirrup]

Wait, are you trying to say that we should assume sort of a role when we play this game?

[agile parcel]

I think they should make the Empyrean invaders even more difficult

[hybrid turtle]

Guy with 900 AS and a dozen SK has opinion

[wraith salmon]

I really do not understand why “just move” is so many people’s go to answer to friction.

If there were an asc zone with no airships I’d go there. But there isn’t. Telling people to just move somewhere else if they have limited playtime is frankly disrespectful.

(I recognize I don’t have limited playtime. I’m speaking generally)

[sour swan]

It’s an easy and lazy answer I think. Might be an honest answer too. Unfortunately, in a complex world it is usually not the correct answer.

[glossy stirrup]

This response sounds lazy, easy, and honest. 😉

[sour swan]

Dude! I edited it a few times!

[agile parcel]

Are you suggesting I dont deserve one?

[hybrid turtle]

Just that your perspective on difficulty is probably not aligned with the broader playerbase

[agile parcel]

Im teasing - I know the playing experience varies widely. I will say Onslaughts are most fun Ive had in normal gameplay in some time., and I hope they stay challenging

If anyone figures out how to grief the diviners, please let me know

[desert elbow]

gotta kill those runestones...at least thats the strat I make up in my head

[spark token]

I mean... I get it... and I know how I sound, but, when can we start actually asking for challenging content, though? What % of the game needs to be botting/dogwalking Ascension content before we're allowed to ask for punishingly difficult content if not in an Ascension activity?

[lavish patio]

The ground Empyreans aren't too difficult, they're just too numerous and shut normal creatures out of existence 90%+ of the time.

[spark token]

Tiered, instanced content with better rewards that is electable?

ask artificer about onslaught nightmare plus plus diamond

An artificer asks, "Are you okay?"

[hybrid turtle]

That’s kind of a business decision. Do they want dev spending time creating an area for X infinitesimal percentage of the population. You could argue ascension was already that, lol.

[agile parcel]

Sounds like they are actually incentivizing all the gear upgrades they've been selling at DR for the past decade

[spark token]

I've said it before... but a whole bunch of us have already outgrown the next several new Ascension hunting grounds, whetever they may be.

I'll sit in my lane and wait, but, at the rate XP is moving and grooving now... yeah...

[warped atlas]

Yeah, I agree. I'm all about additional harder content.
But I dont think it should be at the sacrifice of the existing content.... that seems counterproductive

[agile parcel]

Yes, but have you tried running laps around Sailor's Grief yet?

[warped atlas]

I think it would be absolute if they would add more lifts/levels to the ship and let it keep scaling up the empyreans 5 levels each time... then let us wear the level we cleared as a badge of honor in our profile

[spark token]

Yaaaasss let us cliiiimb. Eventually you get to the Deathstar and have to do the trench run.

[gaunt cove]

I keep hitting 10/10 codex and I'm doing 3 a week or so?

[agile parcel]

OK, count me in

[gaunt cove]

Etiquette wise. I want people alive and it was clear that the original question isn't a bunch of unicorns. If it's the no response, kill all your stuff, ignore you or "I don't have to engage" and keep killing during that behavior or its on the level of script or abuse report then we act accordingly on those two sides. The other flip is my bad, no arm, thought you were hurt, we probably will be like cool cool and a wave.

I've seen people be super generous, grouping, clearing to bodies and generally helpful so that's been a positive aspect and I've shared those along the way where it made sense.

[wraith salmon]

Kinda seems like a simple implementation to solve the problem of harder content honestly.

I say that of course without knowing how the current system is built.

[clever carbon]

Keep empies the same. Increase local critter spawn rate. Massive swarms of everything. This is the answer.

[lavish patio]

As a superfan of the old Sanctum, I'd love that.

[manic pebble]

Casuals need to stick to non ascension grounds.
Ascension shouldn't take any kind of casual avg mindset into consideration.

[warped atlas]

I think that would be fair, if there were more 100+ non-ascension hunting grounds.

[manic pebble]

Those old grounds have got to be less crowded than prior to ascension release.

[sour swan]

You and Leafiara are super sick!

[warped atlas]

It's limited right now to what....
OTF
Scatter/Rift
Atoll/Ruined Temple
Nelemar

Saying it out loud, i guess there are a decent amount

[manic pebble]

Ascension is intended to be difficult and hard and frustrating.

If you're trying to solo it and keep getting swarmed then stop soloing it.

Ascension is not intended for solos and that was stated by dev waaaay back during development.

You solo it because you want even more challenge.

[sour swan]

Onslaughts should standardize everyone’s equipment and exp and ascension exp. Think of it like that tower in FF14 palace of the dead.

Boom. You want challenge. Leave you stupid toys and 60m exp outside.

[rose cliff]

Sure if you just want rogues to do them

[manic pebble]

Heck no. That's dumb.

[warped atlas]

Alright - you guys have convincingly turned me. I'm on the more difficult content train now after laying out all the available post-cap hunting grounds.
Ascension = harder content = better rewards.

More swarms, amped up difficulty... lets goooo

[manic pebble]

There's so much content that everyone can participate in.

We definitely need content that is extremely limited to a small percentage of the population that will provide challenge and bragging rights etc. rather than content that comes out and is immediately crushed.

[spark token]

Dev shouldn't be designing anything for Bigshot

[sour swan]

Isn’t the whole game designed for bigshot?

[warped atlas]

All my favorite content is not bigshot friendly.

[spark token]

That's the joke

[sour swan]

Oh.

[still raptor]

What do you mean, Onslaughts are not intended for everyone?

[proper osprey]

They should increase the spawn rate of the regular mobs in affected ascension zone to match the onslaught ones.

If you want to do the quests.. do it in a group like what the zone was originally designed for.

The main difference between ascension and non ascension now is the chance to get gemstones.

There should be a factor of risk vs reward.

I hunted warcamps and OSA for years because of casual game play time so it’s really not difficult to find a spot just to farm exclusively for xp without disruption.

You’re literally picking to hunt in the most difficult zone(s) for a reason. That’s my hot take.

[rose cliff]

Is the sparkling decent quest available to everyone?

[still raptor]

Everyone who qualifies?

[proper osprey]

Only the important ones 🦆

[warped atlas]

I meant they're intended for people who are deep post cap.

But further down I came around on it all.

More difficulty for the better rewards. Anyone who isn'tup for the more challenging content can go to The Rift/Scatter, Nelemar, OTF, or Atoll.

and really, to Tservin's point, it feels like they jsut need to balance the spawns better between the empyreans and the actual ascension zone creatures.

Keep the swarms, just balance them so people who dont want to go on the airship can still at least do bounties and stuff

[still raptor]

Oh -- got it. I see. Thank you for more detail. Trying to catch up on todays topic.

[proper osprey]

OSA
Warcamps
Confluence

[warped atlas]

And not trying to be a total jerk, but Im sure it will come across that way....

But Realistically.... gemstones weren't intended for everyone (at lower levels of experience). A handful of people carried everyone through the quest.

[vague egret]

Gemstones (and anything GS4 related) is intended for everyone, if you put in the work/effort/currency to make it viable without help

[warped atlas]

Yeah, i worded that poorly. I meant - they weren't intended to be for everyone immediately after cap.

And since then, it's kind of skewed everything to be "i'm capped, i should have all the games content available to me now"

[still raptor]

I mean -- how do I put it -- invasions aren't really designed for everyone either. But, everyone can participate, with varying levels of success/death. I like that model.

[proper osprey]

Welcome to Onslaught friend.

Miss you!

[vague egret]

I'm almost at 51m experience and will finally switch over to ascension experience and maybe start trying to hunt ascension zones myself... everyone has their own timeline and difficulty factors they enjoy playing against. I always underhunted while leveling as well.

[still raptor]

Well -- that's exactly what I'm saying. I hope Onslaughts don't become gated behind some standardized etiquette. I like the way invasions encourage us to work together and help each other.

[warped atlas]

I've seen more people grouping since Onslaughts started than ever before

[still raptor]

Grouping doesn't mean open, though, necessarily. It just means... groups. It could mean that, but it doesn't have to. I saw lots of private grouped wyrm runs.

[proper osprey]

Nah, there are more pickup groups than anything else IMO

Onslaught has really brought back some spark and life …

Personally, I got to group with some amazing people again

[vale canyon]

it’s really not hard to find a group with people you haven’t met on the Onslaughts ESP

[rose cliff]

He doesn't want a group he just wants chaos

[still raptor]

That's not true or what I am saying. But anyway.

[warped atlas]

The wyrm was a totally different animal though - you had people creating parties because of the summoning aspect requiring items, and the requirements to get credit for the quest, the need for uber geared and experienced people in it, etc....

Onslaughts has truly been people looking for groups, people randomly joining each other on the ship... like genuinely forming groups on the fly and just smashing through stuff

[vague egret]

onslaughts basically incentivize grouping up to the max of 5 party members if possible

[flat widget]

Casual does not equal average. I just don't have the time to chase Empyrian ships all over elanthia. I 100% agree that ascension zones should be challenging, but this is the onslaught folder, not the ascension folder, and I can't really participate in onslaught except by luck because they're time/location gated.

[sour swan]

Can’t even imagine how fast the gemstone market would have tanked if all 20 people who could organically have done the Wyrm and Sybil were just stuck up in their gemstones tower all alone. All that sweet sweet dust. Just wasting away.

[proper osprey]

Dust probably wouldn’t have tanked because there isn’t enough to go around

They would just be generating and saving their own dust for their own upgrades

[sour swan]

Yeah. I kinda was leaning both ways as I was typing that.

[warped atlas]

My understanding of supply and demand would mean that the market would have done the opposite of tanking 😆

fewer gemstones = more value in them

[mighty breach]

You people with your extreme gear, enhancives and multiple SKs. Some of us are casual players and don't need the onslaughts to be any harder

[sour swan]

Except Dreaven would have flooded the market. Or Alastir. Or Leafiara would own you all.

You all would still be generating tons and tons of stones with very few buyers.

[proper osprey]

Dreaven didn’t get into the gemstone game until a year later… when the dust market was still good btw

[proper osprey]

No one would be generating stones… that’s why the price would be even higher …. Because instead of being 10 MI now… there’s only 1

[agile parcel]

Power creep

[sour swan]

Why wouldn’t people be generating stones? I’m confused? Are people not still hunting gemstones? Even using fixate?

[wraith salmon]

I really kinda hope that's a joke. Why shouldn't casuals be in ASC grounds Especially after they just juiced the daylights out of exp

[proper osprey]

Your original argument was …

If only the original 20 people who could do the Gemstone quest kept it alone and didn’t help anyone

Therefore.. it’s still only 20
People able to generate a gemstone …

Instead of the hundreds of a week

[gaunt cove]

I want 51 million XP. Taking donations

[mighty breach]

imagine if we could donate xp. id donate from all my alts and ascend into a jedi

[proper osprey]

Chump numbers with the new change tho?

New change made everyone under 40m xp basic 🤣🤣🤣

[sour swan]

Sorry I got confused in my own thing. Yes. But I don’t think the big people who love ascension would stop hunting ascension and so they’d still be generating stones.

[gaunt cove]

We're all casuals. Part of this is humor mixed in solving. Kerl has X hours, I have X hours, but sometimes its dark enough I don't need to get in the coffin. That comment about gemstones was too accurate. As a zone, its brutal solo, MA will have trouble because its fast you need a human being making decisions and we're noticing the spawn problem is causing. This airship is also not chump change either, it will maul a group ill equipped for its combat pace.

A lot of this week we spent recovering dead or being dead and teaching people and ourselves how you recover progression for the 5, or 5 people left before the timer expires.

[proper osprey]

Did you spend time trying to enlighten your party before and they totally ignored you?

That’s what happned to me a few times with first time Onslaughters…totally overconfident 🤣🤣

[vale canyon]

“This group is already as enlightened as it can get”

[wraith salmon]

I'd do the quest for codexes, but I don't feel like running the obligatory GS world tour that seems to be part of every quest.

[vale canyon]

HW and ME are 5 seconds away and that is 50% of onslaughts which seems more then fair considering everyone doesn’t live in HW or ME

[rose cliff]

The dwarves should open an express tunnel used to evacuate people and bring in aide during onslaughts in zul. Charging me to come save you? Same with that 20k boat to SG!

[clever carbon]

How much exp is Jedi?

[hybrid turtle]

My idea: Empyrean spawn rate on the ground should decrease proportionally to how hard players are fighting them on the ships. If we’re fighting off the Onslaught, let that have an effect on their ground spawns. Then, as long as the people who want to are clearing out the ships, people can go about their regular hunting quasi normally.

[wraith salmon]

Thematically makes sense, and would likely resolve the issue to a large degree, as long as engineers still spawn for people to get up there.

[spark token]

It's not getting the XP that is hard, it's the Holocron grind.

[warped atlas]

I thought the hard part was not embracing the darkside.

[mighty breach]

with 200m i could do what i wanted to do

[terse fern]

I would absolutely love for there to be things in game that are impacted by player action lile this! Do a bad job at clearing the ships and empyreans spill into other hunting grounds. Give players a reason to band together to accomplish goals to help others.

[manic pebble]

But it will disrupt the "casuals" extremely limited play time.

[river parcel]

Or do a better job and it gets harder!

[wheat gyro]

por que no los dos?

[fallow igloo]

No bueno.

[orchid trout]

No sabo

[fallow igloo]

Sin nabos!

[weary ridge]

I actually love this new system. It's hard.. It's challenging, It's guided toward teams. I am loving it! I love the randomness of it. I mean it's an invasion! I for one am going to continue to fight and protect elanthia against them with anyone willing to join up.

[light coral]

hm the quest exp rewards no long stack?

[desert elbow]

did they? i was told to make sure you are at fried (not saturated) when turning in to prevent xp loss

[rose cliff]

they never did it won't let you quest complete while saturated

[light coral]

i just tried to turn in my quests on my alts and it looks like i lost the exp

[rose cliff]

Yea I thought that too but it should still not show up in your quest info as completed

[light coral]

oh i see, let me double check

[marsh merlin]

There does seem to be a threshold of saturated that still allows you to turn in for extra saturation. Didn't test it precisely, but I could still QUEST COMPLETE when my guys where approximately 500xp still saturated (~1500/1000).

[noble talon]

Yeah it shouldn't allow you to forfeit exp

If it does that's a bug

[ashen plume]

Why did we need physical codices to turn in to the artificer instead of just a wealth codex count like dust?

[desert elbow]

the one bound with skin and stuff looks pretty cool...

[agile parcel]

Welcome to my Skin and Parchment library

42. a marble-lined runic codex chiseled with cerulean runes (3)
43. a marble-lined runic codex chiseled with cerulean runes (3)
44. a marble-lined runic codex chiseled with cerulean runes (2)
45. a marble-lined runic codex chiseled with cerulean runes (2)
46. a skin-bound runic codex tattooed with thick crimson ink (2)
47. a skin-bound runic codex tattooed with thick crimson ink (4)
48. a marble-lined runic codex chiseled with cerulean runes (2)
49. a marble-lined runic codex chiseled with cerulean runes (1)
50. a skin-bound runic codex tattooed with thick crimson ink (1)
51. a skin-bound runic codex tattooed with thick crimson ink (3)```

[ashen plume]

When you can't enter Duskruin sewer due to item capacity limit, you'll have skin regret.

[agile parcel]

It's in my bag of holding, so only counts as 1 item, amirite

[hasty tulip]

You're missing a huge opportunity here by not carrying around a bottle of lotion too.

[agile parcel]