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marble nacelle
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Looking at the most recent item put up for raffle - a T2 Artist's Easel - 100k silvers is extremely reasonable. Especially because I know that there are people entering the raffle looking to flip it for a bare minimum of 50m silvers (or equivalent, and I do mean bare minimum).

If it were account bound, I might call 100k silvers a little steep. Maybe.

I'm personally thankful that the raffle is in silvers and not bloodscrip. But maybe that's because the raffle system can only take payment by silvers and not alt currency.
Which, by the way, would be 100bs at the exchange rate of 1m silver to 1k bs. That's 1/3 the reward for a successful Arena run.

@fickle locust - I'll happily pay you 100k silver in exchange for 100 bs so you could enter this raffle. Or just to have the silvers. DM me or look for Traiva in game.

wild bolt
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I don’t understand the insane interests in easels or kittens or potatoes but I acknowledge that it is real.

keen maple
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100k entry for one winner does hurt when I toss my silvers in...hurts a bit less when there's multiple winners and my chances are a bit better or at least have the appearance of being better, lol!

steep parrot
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You could wait til the gift boxes come out and flip your free book/BS for the 100K raffle cost if it's really that bad. Seriously, 100K silver is cheap.

zinc copper
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On the player side, the difference made by the cost of the ticket is in the expected value calculations (subjective though they might be at times, but not in this case since the prize has an exactly known value of 61k raikhen). There are raffles I don't enter for 1k silver (this actually happens fairly regularly with premium raffles!) and there have been raffles I've entered for 500k. It just depends on the caliber of the prize and the odds of winning.

What difference it makes on the GM side is definitely a more interesting question, though. Unlike players, they could expend infinite resources, but choose not to. I think it's a combination of wanting to preserve some level of rarity to the item and, as you said, a silver drain. I suppose there's also the element of not wanting to annoy people who did pay 61k raikhen if someone swoops in and wins it for, say, 10k silver in a raffle that only pulls 3m total.

marble nacelle
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Trying to get your logic by comparing half the things in GS to the real world does nothing but give headaches and leave everyone frustrated. So I don't do it.

The T2 Artist Easel is an RP prop that is in high demand but rather rare. And if purchased directly from Simu for the alt currency, a rather high expense in US dollars under the assumption you get your alt currency by buying Simucoins that you then use to buy event entries that you then use to earn the alt currency. And I've seen the market for this particular item in terms of silvers. So knowing that someone who didn't really want the easel but was willing to gamble 100k silvers for the chance at a massive return when they resell it... 100k is reasonable for this item.

I'll pay a premium for RP props because they make my GS experience enjoyable. I'll pay for those before I pay for armor/weapons, and am the first to admit that Traiva and my Warrior have their combat gear strictly because they were gifts who enjoys seeing them used.
I don't understand the insane interest in mechanical gear and why it's so expensive, but I'm not yucking all over that.

Do I have any idea why some of this RP stuff is so expensive and rare? Nope. And I don't have the energy to try to work my way into the room where these decisions are made. So I'll just keep up with what I know and look for the opening for change.

steep parrot
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Also, 100K raffles are not a silver drain. The last silver drain of the RPA orbs was over 5B. If every active account in GS bought a raffle ticket it might hit 100M? And I think that's a stretch.

zinc copper
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I will say that I'm expecting to see at least some free things at Mania since Wyrom said it's returning to its roots and that I don't think those ever broke the game way back when. I kind of know what you mean about the arbitrariness.

wild bolt
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100k isn’t much my level 10 empath killing goblins makes that in a couple days. So playing lottery is a choices. It’s not forced and if you don’t like the reward not sure why the issue is there at all and if you want an easel accepting it has a high value makes 100k pretty minimal. I don’t get the appeal of them but they sure are valued and popular.

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Not sure why you are seeing 25k ad something acceptable but 100k not. A merchant can set their goods at whatever price the market will buy at. This event will sell plenty of tickets at 100k so why should they drop it for you?

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And your comment about harm is a non sequitur but I’m really not interested enough to go round and round. Good evening to you. Buy a ticket or don’t.

whole nest
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lotto doesn't always have a winner - the price of the ticket generates some amount of profit for the seller per sale and excess amounts of revenue go into the jackpot the longer the lotto goes without a winner to increase appeal and sale of tickets

the raffle on the other hand, always has a winner - the prize has a set value and ticket prices are meant to reflect the value of the item versus the opportunity to win - ideally the raffle holder is able to recoup the value of the item in the number of tickets sold and the contestant feels like they are getting a good value at a chance to win an item worth far more than they paid to enter

marsh urchin
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Technically, Duskruin isn’t a pay event as in you don’t have to pay to enter raffles like you do at EG. You could spend zero and still be able to enter them. Because of that I think the silver cost makes sense.

Personally, I’d rather these wins be account bound to deter people from entering just to sell.

undone bloom
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Absolutely hilarious take on a lottery item and price

It apparent the OP doesn't gamble, or want the Item in said raffle, so the blow up is kinda mute really

Don't like it, don't enter
To must $$$, don't enter

I've seen peeps rage quit for less...lol

Enjoy the game and the joy it gives you, this seems a bit petty to rage over

polar drift
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If anything, I'd argue that the limited availability of a T2 Easel is a problem.

It's a prop used for RP, and there are a lot of folks whose characters would jump on that. I don't see why they're not readily available.

Well, I do understand why. But it irks me. My two cents.

hushed dagger
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They're sold at RW.

keen maple
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The t2 unlock is quite pricey.

blissful ether
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The unlock is priced appropriately to the function, honestly. Maybe even a little low. It allows you the freedom to write a custom SHOW for an item, without being stuck to the bounds of scripted appearances or ones you had to visit a merchant to add that let you fill-in-the-blank. No other creation tools allow this function. That's on top of the other features of the T2 unlock like unlimited canvases and reduced RT.

fickle locust
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Deleted! Argue amongst yrselves

queen mortar
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never delete unpopular posts, simply accuse others of revisionism

keen maple
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Well Casil, we will have to agree to disagree on the pricing.

polar drift