#Undergrowth of Bittermere Woods (a.k.a. The Witch’s Hut)
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I found a bug last night. If you try to get a candle but can't because you are too encumbered you don't get one, but it thinks you did. I went in with a ton of silvers in my pocket by mistake. I was able to bank deposit the silvers and get rid of the encumbrance, but then it wouldn't let me get another candle because it thought I had one and needed to go light a lamp, but I couldn't light a lamp because I didn't actually have a candle.
Miss Haliste, before, the fern task took about the same amount of time as any other task.
Then yesterday, it started being so rare that I ran through every single room in there, and still could not finish my task.
At that point, I took a break.
I would say there should be some encumbrance check before you go in for one, but also if anything else makes you fail to grab the candle, might be good for it not make it so you can't get another.
Some kind of check to see if you failed to get it....for any reason
Yeah I'll add the check tonight.
Yep. I'm still trying to find the cause of this. It's not obvious to me.
is there a reason the witch just drops our loot on the ground? it's tedious picking it up, and it fills up the room with litter. plus it goes against every instinct the raging thrak has honed into you for decades
and i haven't tried this, but what happens if someone else picks up your loot?
It happens if your hands are full. I think it might be the Willowisp task…? I’ll have to check on the next one, but it wasn’t clearing my hands at the end.
hmm...also it's not just the witch throwing on the ground. opening the items also does it >tap my dirt As you break apart your clump of dirt, something falls to the floor. Glancing around, you notice some silver coins scattered across the floor.
Yeah, that’s how it works with those items when they have coins inside. If they have an item instead, it ends up in your hand.
Okay, yeah, it's the will-o'-wisp task. Your hands still have a spyglass and lantern and she chucks the reward at your feet. It's not clearing the hands or something when it ends. Or it is a second later, maybe? Not sure, but she definitely chucks it at my feet for that one.
Then my hands are clear to grab my cube when I reach for it
I'm watching it again this run
It would be a shame to lose an ocarina that way
You glance down to see a glass-paned lantern in your right hand and a wooden spyglass in your left hand.
>
>give witch
Snatching a glass-paned lantern rather gruffly from you as she scrapes the back of your hand with her long, curled fingernails, the witch says, "Perrrrfect. This will do nicely." She opens the small door on the front of the lantern, and a small sphere of light spills from the opening and floats upward, out of sight. The room brightens slightly.
She sets the lantern upon an aged oak table with the others. As that was the last required wisp for your task, you are instantly thrust out of the cottage and into a dizzying series of spins, both mentally and physically, and the landscape underfoot gradually diminishes, becoming smaller and smaller until the once towering blades of grass are as small as caterpillars.
Your vision darkens as your journey returns to the witch's cabin, and a moment later, your surroundings have changed...
[Witch's Cottage - 34818] (u8086509)
[...]
Nodding in your general direction, an old witch says, "Yourrr expelled enerrrgies are apprrreciated. Take this as thanks." She tosses a silvery fusion token at your feet. She also stuffs 30 soul shards in your pocket.```
As soon as you're teleported back into the cabin, she chucks the reward at your feet, but then your hands are clear a moment later.
A hands clear check is just out of order or something for it, maybe. Needs to go before the teleport back to the cabin instead of after?
I think it might be similar for other tasks.
Nodding in your general direction, an old witch says, "Yourrr expelled enerrrgies are apprrreciated. Take this as thanks." She tosses a clump of dirt into your left hand. She also stuffs 30 soul shards in your pocket.
Note that it was put into my "left" hand and not my right. This is after the mushroom task. Had the bag in my right hand. The wisp task is just the one that uses both hands
I needed to be a mouse!
Fulmen, that's actually what happened to me - hands full, and the ocarina thrown at my feet.
so you're the one i stole the ocarina from! I mean that sounds horrible!
there was a lot of adrenaline spent in the moments between wondering where my prize was, then suddenly realizing it was on the ground... in real life if I saw someone throw an instrument on the ground I would probably die on the spot 💀
- I believe the issue with the torches is fixed.
- There's now an encumbrance check before you get a candle or a gourd from the crate/box
- I made an adjustment to the GIVE portion of the wisp task. Let me know if she's still tossing your loot on the ground.
i don't suppose you guys would consider making charges tied to the character instead of the item. feels kinda wasteful after you do tons of runs of aota or ubw and have all those runs not count towards the ring/ocarina.
Don't suppose it would be possible to play the ocarina while wearing it?
This is exactly why I'm waiting until ocarina prices drop heavily (hopefully next year instead of needing two...) before even starting on it, heh...
presumably there will be witch goo next year
you can pay the witch right now for charges and goo was confirmed eventually
felt like i was reading a classified document the first 10 minutes of this thread... so many ||spoilers!!||
What are ocarinas selling for anyway?
Yea...that Haliste....||went a bit crazy.||..
Well I used my last cube but never got an Ocarina naturally but I did get one through unnatural means....I will have to pay it forward next year. I liked the game though, as good a use of cubes as AoTa and the theme was nice. I was a bit disappointed we ran out of things to break but I am sure when they do team mode next year we can break all sorts of new things. Maybe Ordim will team up with me.
||Pshaw. Opinions. Hrmph.||
hmm... i think i screwed up the lantern/spyglass situation on one o mf guys..... i can't seem to get a spyglass anymore and am stuck.
What's the solve?
any get ouf out of jail free commands to exit the activity?
I've still got a cube, hit 100 runs though, and still trying
You glance down to see a glass-paned lantern in your right hand and nothing in your left hand.
>get my spyglass
Get what?
>look in basket
In the woven reed basket:
Special [1]: some wooden spyglasses
Total items: 1
>get spyglass from basket
You already have a spyglass!
>````
I borked one of my tasks a few days ago (destroyed the candle with my fish sack) and couldn’t finish. So I kicked the imp- ends your run, like a grab, but didn’t doesn’t count as a grab (different messaging).
Kick the imp
kicking the imp.... ahh, thanks all
GM assist got me a new spyglass and was able to finish the run
Has Anyone found an ocarina in the last few days? I know one person has over 1000 runs and did not find it.
... and I thought my paltry couple hundred was depressing enough to make me give up.
I found one earlier today after, I think 124 runs
Thanks Miss Riend. I will ... keep the faith for one more day, but then I am out.
956 runs for me between yesterday and today.... no ocarina
I know someone got two close together. Its being super streaky/RNG made worse by the lower number of people running it
ugh, I am not cut out for this game.
That Streaky RNG will drive you crazy watching one person get 2 in 100 runs and you are out there on your 400th with nothing
Once they disclose what the charges are for next year, maybe more people will start to farm it to build up charges, and the price of the ocarinas could drop like the necro rings.
i also won 0 raffles... 0 troves... and only got selected at 4 merchants.... sooooo. I'm probably not a good barometer, lol
Edit: Although, i did get the one thing i wanted. So no complaints here!
That depends. Do you feel pressure?
Its anti gnome conspiracy is what it is 100%, I have never won any of these rare drops from anything....
You got a chuckle outta me 😆 well played
I bet if I was an elf I would be swimming in necro rings and foxes and mandrakes and ocarinas and DR orbs and caches and...whatever else....dragonflies...just have a big elven pool of dragonflies...I would call it Cysaegir....
Yeah, I found one. It's very random. 2 in ~2,000 runs. I also only got one ring in all my runs of the arena this year, and that was yesterday. 2400+ runs there
Wow. I may need a new hobby.
Wild.... because I got a ring in my first 15 or so runs (that was the only one though)
I got it, and thought "oh wow... there must be a good drop rate on these!"
Silly me...
I got like 8 rings last year in fewer runs. 🤷♂️
Thank you everyone.
no services, no ghoul wins, no ocarina (yet?)
I did find a necro ring this year that I don't need... 🙄
is it possible to get a trash can by the old witch, please? people are just dropping everything there. tidying the garden and wrecking the cottage 😭
can you please add a function to let us play the ocarina while wearing it?
Oh, the Ocarina should interact with the Niima bracelets from Caligos - the ones that got purified from the Deceiver at the end of the fest.
RNG has been wild. I had one guy do 1003 runs before an ocarina, then 3 in the next 200 runs. Same with the ring, had one guy get 3 in less than a hundred runs and all the rest combined for several thousand at least and only got 2 total.
this is somewhat disturbing on the wiki. is that a rather ominous sign that we'll eventually want to get 10k+ charges?
It looks similar to the necrotic ring; there will likely be messaging once that part is active.
Just a way to gauge your charges in a more generalized way vs an accurate analyze.
Yes.
Yes that's correct.
There's a trash-filled bucket in the room now.
are the ocarinas not master quality? i don't see a message when i analyze it or sing to it. for the effort and price of getting one, it seems like they should be ... (or maybe a very cheap upgrade in the future to make them one?)
thank you!
also loresong says it's of "unknown" type instead of woodwind family
I haven't gotten to the loresong thing yet, it will say vessel flute
There ARE master instrument messaging waiting. There are master instrument sheets sold at HESS that will upgrade instruments to master quality.
But its not very cheap
yea. but just to confirm, there are no plans to offer a cheap EG quest-specific upgrade to master quality, so purchasing it from HESS won't be a waste right?
That answer I will have to defer unfortunately
so they have all the qualities of a master instrument without being one? if you choose to upgrade to master quality via dr certificate without any benefit u're welcome to do so
No, I interpreted the response as being there are master instrument messaging in place, but they're not unlocked unless you actually upgrade the instrument.
oh~~~~
the messaging is different for each types of woodwind instruments? not shared?
There was a new one released at this EG. The first in 20 years, the first of the same class ever
Thandiwe wrote 140ish brand new messages for the ocarinas, which are classified as vessel flutes. Vessel flutes use this new messaging but training wise are woodwinds
(and I made her go BACK and do 10 more master instrument messages)
Are we past the point of self discovery where I can post the messaging on the wiki
poor lady i should really stop driving her crazy, i didn't realize she was such a busy bee. Thandiwe! etheirys made me do it. @twin dust u should be ashame of yourself
(I have logs where you instigated me!)

That's a lot of messaging though. Let's send a masseuse to our Thandiwe.
I'll check on the ones that drop in the garden. I can't remember.
It was a lot, she's a rock star
Just saw this one 🤣
love it!
An old witch retrieves a leather-bound spellbook from beneath table and flips through it intently. Pausing on one of the pages, she exclaims, "Ohhh...Sage, not Shade. A deadly misunderrrstanding." She shrugs as she returns the spellbook to its home.
I haven't been following this thead, and it's impossible to search within a thread on Discord, so apologies for asking something that was likely already answered.
Is the attunement on the Lightweaver's Ocarina temporary or permanent? If temporary, how does it function for breaking/reattuning? Is it to a character or to an account?
Permanent attunement to the character that wears it first like the Necrotic rings.
Thank you! I'll update the wiki since it doesn't say anything definitive about that part.
(Also added the loresong, which is very lovely!)
The loresong is fantastic!
Just want to say Haliste is amazing for all the fixing and adjusting over the course of this run and it's pretty amazing how well it all smoothed out by the end. The whole thing is really nicely designed and I think it brings a lot of value to the festival and does it in style. Looking forward to seeing what the ocarina does with the charges and running it a whole bunch more next year!
Okay, and a follow up question, since I don't see any threads that are specific to just the ocarina itself as an instrument..
I saw that the ocarina is noted as being a "woodwind subclass", but has its own unique messaging. Does it draw from the woodwind instrumetns play skill, then? Or is it a different play skill that doesn't yet show up on play skill? I didn't see any new skill types pop up when attempting to learn to play it, but that was admittedly with a non-bard who already was a novice in woodwinds.