#Request: Remove Curse Update/Info

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marble vigil
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Is there any information that can be shared regarding this spell for non-casters?

I'm a rogue and purchased a pretty pricey item (white eonake cross that casts remove curse 3x/day) in an effort to prevent death-by-scarab as often as I can.

In my first test, I was able to successfully remove a scarab on an intentional bite on the first try. Since then, I've had two instances where I was bitten and I had no luck using the item.

I've been told that this potentially still uses an old hidden roll system. Is there any way to get more information how this works, so that I can use this item more reliably? I also have plans to move it to a rune tattoo, but if the spell is very unreliable, I would hate to waste the money doing so.

1) can any additional information be shared regarding the current mechanics and/or (2) can/will the spell be updated on the actual curse removal hidden check to allow more weight from MIU/AS so that non-casters can take advantage of them?

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These are my attempts to use it today for one scarab.

You rub your white eonake cross.
  1d100: 2 + Modifiers: 98 == 100
The cross does not activate, but you do learn it will cast an unknown spell.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
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You rub your white eonake cross.
  1d100: 31 + Modifiers: 98 == 129
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
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You rub your white eonake cross.
  1d100: 75 + Modifiers: 98 == 173
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
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You rub your white eonake cross.
  1d100: 6 + Modifiers: 98 == 104
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
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Important factors I am aware of: DIS/AUR, Cleric Spell Ranks, Spiritual/Bless Lore, Character Level.

I cannot get cleric spells, so I was wondering if it's possible to make MIU/AS ranks replace this for a square? Is that how other spells work?

Knowing why it failed would be really helpful as I have no clue even how close I was on the actual check against removing the curse for this to be be successful. I would love to know if I could improve this with spiritual lore (one of the supposed factors) or do something else to make it significantly more reliable.

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Some info about the scarab if helpful:

PersonA swings an ornate kakore runestaff at a spiked onyx scarab!
  AS: +42 vs DS: +275 with AvD: +10 + d100 roll: +78 = -145
   A clean miss.

PersonB channels at a spiked onyx scarab.
The force of PersonB's power warps the air as it surges toward a spiked onyx scarab!
  CS: +438 - TD: +237 + CvA: +25 + d100: +33 == +259
  Warding failed!
A nebulous haze shimmers into view around a spiked onyx scarab, plunging inward to envelop its left leg!
   ... 15 points of damage!
   Chunks of flesh vaporized on left leg!
The onyx scarab collapses to one side, then flips completely over, legs flailing weakly at the air before it expires.
chilly beacon
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(NOT OFFICIAL)

I don't know if you've looked at the gswiki for 315: https://gswiki.play.net/Remove_Curse_(315)

Says there's no random roll involved, but there is a strength of the curse/scarab versus the Remove Curse (Discipline+Aura bonuses, spell ranks, blessing lore, level). My completely-NOT-official guess is that the second two scarabs may have had a higher Curse number than the first one...

marble vigil
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I have, and ok, that makes sense. But then.. would I, hypothetically if this is true, be able to increase my abilities by increasing my general CS? I have no idea how that works but I can look into it.

chilly beacon
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(again, NOT OFFICIAL)

https://gswiki.play.net/Magic_Item_Use

It looks like sometimes MIU can up the effective CS for some spells.... I don't know (and haven't tested), if that's the case for 315.

marble vigil
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Would that be more of a "this spell isn't updated to act that way yet" or a "this spell specifically doesn't care"

chilly beacon
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I could not tell you, on that, sorry!

marble vigil
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marble vigil
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Is this something I can count on not finding out officially? 😄

chilly beacon
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My best suggestion, as a player (and not GM):

Go see if you can test out various MIU levels of training against scarabs on the Test server, to see if more MIU ranks does help.

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marble vigil
chilly beacon
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Yeah, it's the rate of success that would be tested... test with less MIU, same MIU, more MIU, etc.

marble vigil
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Ok - any word on when a test server copy would take place? I don't even have my character there. But thank you for the info that you could share!

chilly beacon
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marble vigil
chilly beacon
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Sure thing!

static talon
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I asked this exact question last week during the All Things Elanthia mentor event and I don't think anyone knows for certain (though it was pointed out that clerics can imbed 315 into a gem). I used to carry some uncurse potions to use on scarab victims but I believe they stopped working at some point; it's possible there was some update involving 315/715 interactions that affected scarabs. Casting from a scroll has worked successfully in recent memory.

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