#Lathe Updates

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nocturne trail
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I rolled out a fix for the lathes. They've been wonky and completely broke sometime at the beginning of the year. Through multiple tweaks and testing, I believe we've captured all of the little bugs and you should find that your lathe AUTOMAGICALLY updates to the new version.

If you had your lathe unlocked, then it is still unlocked.

This post is going to be long, so buckle up!

Fixes:

  • If you FLIP, TURN, or SPIN your lathe to the appropriate settings, you will turn your base gemstone into a base weaving item. Remember, it will not make a long description.
  • Funkiness with Sea Glass has been resolved

New:

  • Shells and mother-of-pearl can now be turned into weaving items with the lathe.
  • Unlocked Lathes will additionally allow you to turn shells or mother-or-pearl into spacers or bars.
  • Customizations for Articles have been increased from 2 to 5.
  • New option to create customized Nouns

Here is a look at the new analyzes and various other data.

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New Analyze - Tier 1

You analyze the steel lathe and sense that the creator has provided the following information:

A steel lathe is a tool used to transform a gemstone into a weaving item.

Directions:
POINT {my} lathe at {my} <gemstone>: Gives a preview of all settings with the current gemstone.
CUT {my} <gemstone> with {my} lathe: Creates the weaving item based on the settings.

Settings:

Gemstone Noun: bead
Shell or Mother-of-pearl: (gem noun)
Article: (gemstone art.)
The lathe is tier 1 out of 2.
For more information on restrictions, please ANALYZE the lathe again in the next 30 seconds.

nocturne trail
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New Analyze - Tier 2
You analyze the steel lathe and sense that the creator has provided the following information:

A steel lathe is a tool used to transform a gemstone into a weaving item.

Directions:
FLIP lathe: Cycles through nouns available to qualifying gemstones. Stock Settings: bead, bauble, disk, nodule, orb
SPIN lathe: (For Shells and Mother-of-pearl ONLY) Cycles through the nouns of shell, spacer, or bar.
TURN lathe: Cycles through available articles for qualifying gemstones. Stock Settings: a carved, a silver-chased, a gold-chased, a rune-incised, a faceted. (Note about faceted: Stones, shells, and mother-of-pearl will become "a smooth," while insects and sea critters will become "a crystallized."
POINT {my} lathe at {my} <gemstone>: Gives a preview of all settings with the current gemstone.
CUT {my} <gemstone> with {my} lathe: Creates the weaving item based on the settings.

Settings:

Gemstone Noun: bead
Shell or Mother-of-pearl: (gem noun)
Article: (gemstone art.)
Custom Article 1:
Custom Article 2:
Custom Article 3:
Custom Article 4:
Custom Article 5:
Custom noun 1:
Custom noun 2:
Custom noun 3
Custom noun 4:
Custom noun 5:
The lathe is tier 2 out of 2.
For more information on restrictions, please ANALYZE the lathe again in the next 30 seconds.

nocturne trail
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If you analyze your lathe a second time, you'll get the following information (regardless of tier).

You analyze the steel lathe and sense that the creator has provided the following information:
Special Handling Items:
Some gemstones (based on their special nature) will either not be allowed for use at all, will have special handling, or will have specific restrictions. Some of those restrictions are:
Agita
These will only ever have the noun of agita.
Glass
Any gem fashioned of glass or seaglass will have the glass or seaglass moved into the adjective field. Whenever possible, the color will move with it. They can either retain their noun OR will default to bead; other nouns are available.
Insects, Sea Critters, and Such
These types of gemstones have restrictions. Their noun can only be: (gemstone noun), bead, or bauble.
Metal Gemstones
This category includes the following: aranthium-bloom, dust, faenor-bloom, mithril-bloom, nugget, pyrite, razern-bloom, rhimar-bloom, tanzanite, titanite, vultite-bloom.
All of the above may only have the noun of bead. Where applicable, the "-bloom," "dust", and "nugget" will be dropped and the metal base will remain in the adjective field. You may customize with article options.
Organics
This category includes the following: chrysalis, crescent, cube, egg, eye, fang, fishscale, sandsilver,spur, star, talon, and tusk.
All of the above will only ever be allowed to have the noun and adjective that is innate to them. You may customize with article options.
Pearls
These will only ever have the noun of pearl.
Saewehna
These will only ever have the noun of saewehna.
Shells and Mother-of-Pearl
These items now have the option to be a spacer or bar using SPIN. If spacer or bar is used then they will appear (shell adjective) (spacer/bar). You may leave the article natural or select from your options.
Mother-of-Pearl will have the noun of "fragment" if left natural but may also have "spacer" or "bar".
Stones
These items include the following: bluerock, coral, feldspar, and stone. They can either retain their gemstone noun OR will default to bead.
Wood
These items include the following: driftwood, haon, maoral, modwir, thanot, and wyrmwood. These items will default to bead if a noun isn't selected. The adjective will always be the noun of the gemstone. Wood items cannot be nodules, therefore, they will default to bead.
Forbidden Pieces
The following items cannot be turned into weaving items: ambergis, plinite, and salt.

nocturne trail
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@terse oriole @shut obsidian @twilit owl @pale parcel (I'm trying to remember all the people that put in bug reports and failing)

twilit owl
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Thank you!

celest gulch
terse oriole
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OMGoodness thank you so much!

tight thunder
timid fulcrum
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Well now I need one of these too 🫠

shut obsidian
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So on the lathes that were unlocked and had (gemstone art) (gem noun) that was the best feature of the lathe, is that not returning to the lathes?

shut obsidian
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Thandiwe my pale water sapphire turned into a water bead. i bugged it

brazen barn
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very nice, thank you!

Settings:
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Gemstone Noun: bead
Shell or Mother-of-pearl: (gem noun)
Article: a carved
Custom Article 1: a dahcre-etched
Custom Article 2: a muffin-shaped
Custom Article 3: 
Custom Article 4: 
Custom Article 5: 
Custom noun 1: 
Custom noun 2: 
Custom noun 3 
Custom noun 4: 
Custom noun 5: ```
nocturne trail
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Analyze tells you exactly what you need to know.

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Your lathe was not set to (gem noun).

shut obsidian
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there is no (gemstone art.)(gem noun) offered for gems, the only thing i saw it was offered for was shell or mother of pearl.

nocturne trail
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Try now.

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Hmm, I just thought of something I should add to this...

shut obsidian
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its there now thank you soooo much!

nocturne trail
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Darksin, I just made a small change. Tell me if that helps you.

karmic nymph
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Just analyzed my tier 1 lathe and part of the analyze is telling me this:

Gemstone Noun: p

nocturne trail
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Its laughing at you.

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😛

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(goes to look)

karmic nymph
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It knows how much I miss it

nocturne trail
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Try now.

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Please. Sorry, I should have been saying please.

karmic nymph
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Oh, no worries! I'm really excited to work with it again. Weaving has grown so much since I was around last!

nocturne trail
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Yea, that seems fixed.

karmic nymph
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Thank you so much! ❤️

brave notch
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The lathes are fixed!! This is the best day ever! Thank you!

karmic nymph
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Thandiwe, would you hate me if I told you that my weaving tool belt doesn't want to hold my lathe now? It was just in there when I logged in to check the updates

nocturne trail
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That makes sense.

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I had to write an entirely new script.

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I'll get them adjusted soon, but probably not tonight.

karmic nymph
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No worries! Just getting them fixed is awesome as it is.

karmic swan
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Thank yooou, Thandiwe ❤️

tardy phoenix
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oh nuts.. mine won't go in either, but also yes i'm so happy they work again!
Thank you so much for this fix!! 🎉 💗

humble vapor
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Many many thanks!

sinful orbit
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just saying hi! 👋

normal shore
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Psssssst, hey Katara... ::waves from the shadows::

sinful orbit
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:runs from Lith: Just so you know, I'm not too crazy - the lathe shouldn't just make a green rose from a green starstone - but a starstone rose :throws Lith in a vat of butter:

nocturne elbow
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4hrs later, after catching up in general events, Erek pops in specifically to see if Lithyia did indeed follow Katara here. Erek leaves highly pleased...

nocturne trail
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Okay, did a few adjustments....

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You think you could cut a dragonfire emerald into a dragonfire emerald disk with a steel lathe, which can then be used for weaving.

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You think you could cut an iridescent labradorite stone into a labradorite stone disk with a steel lathe, which can then be used for weaving.

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You think you could cut a turquoise stone into a turquoise stone disk with a steel lathe, which can then be used for weaving.

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I think that fixes all the wayward bugs.

normal shore
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I'll play around with mine again later tonight when I pop on my alt.

normal shore
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s>take lath
You remove a polished rose-etched lathe fashioned of gold from in your silk satchel.
s>poin lathe at stone
You think you could cut a turquoise stone into a carved stone bead with a polished rose-etched lathe fashioned of gold, which can then be used for weaving.```
Nevermind I got it working!
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s>poin lath at garn
You think you could cut a blood red garnet into a faceted garnet garnet with a polished rose-etched lathe fashioned of gold, which can then be used for weaving.```
But then this happened with a garnet
normal shore
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You think you could cut an aquamarine gem into a carved gem gem with a polished rose-etched lathe fashioned of gold, which can then be used for weaving.```
sinful orbit
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Umm I sowwy You think you could cut a dragonfire opal into a dragonfire opal opal with a small steel-tipped lathe I didn't cut it tho!

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It's odd, it was flipped to my custom of rose - but when I flipped it to my custom of trillium You think you could cut a pink sapphire into a pink sapphire trillium

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ok I cut it - the double original gem noun became the rose noun when actually cut, so it was somehing hinky with the preview of it.

sinful orbit
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trillium custom didn't work tho: >cut my opal with my lathe
You set the white opal in your steel-tipped lathe, and make it go! A white opal opal pops out and falls into your left hand.

undone jetty
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the same happened to me with my custom nouns. it came out with the noun of the gem.

nocturne trail
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Was this resolved? I think it was on my end, but I'm a little lost.

sinful orbit
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it's still wonky with custom nouns, that was suppose to be a carved topaz rose. And it came out a carved topaz topaz .. identity crisis, heh

nocturne trail
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Hmm, let me see what's up with that.

orchid pumice
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ALL of the noun options still only cut the full 15/15/15 gem with the gem noun

nocturne trail
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You think you could cut a royal blue boreal topaz into a royal blue boreal topaz rose with a steel lathe, which can then be used for weaving.

nocturne trail
sinful orbit
orchid pumice
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It looks correct on the analyze when you cycle through but when POINTed at the gem, it still just shows the original full gem description with the original gem noun, no matter what noun option is actually selected

nocturne trail
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Even after this fix I just did?

nocturne trail
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flip my lathe
You fiddle with your steel lathe, getting ready to make (gemstone art.) (adjective) trillium that can then be used for weaving.
G>point lathe at topaz
You think you could cut a royal blue boreal topaz into a royal blue boreal topaz trillium with a steel lathe, which can then be used for weaving.
G>flip lathe
You fiddle with your steel lathe, getting ready to make (gemstone art.) (adjective) disk that can then be used for weaving.
G>point lathe at topaz
You think you could cut a royal blue boreal topaz into a royal blue boreal topaz disk with a steel lathe, which can then be used for weaving.
G>flip lathe
You fiddle with your steel lathe, getting ready to make (gemstone art.) (adjective) nodule that can then be used for weaving.
G>point lathe at topaz
You think you could cut a royal blue boreal topaz into a royal blue boreal topaz nodule with a steel lathe, which can then be used for weaving.
G>

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I think that issue has been resolved.

sinful orbit
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You set the star sapphire in your steel-tipped lathe, and make it go! A star sapphire rose pops out and falls into your left hand. - YAY it works!!

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Tried a few different configurations and they all worked, Thanks Thandiwe!

orchid pumice
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You remove some polished pink coral from in your silk velvet gem pouch.

point lat at coral
You think you could cut some polished pink coral into a pink c bead with a polished rose-etched lathe fashioned of gold, which can then be used for weaving.
Doesn't work there

nocturne trail
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I feel like Coral should follow the same rules as mother-of-pearl and shells...

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Let me ponder this.

nocturne trail
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While pondering coral, I found another one that is odd. A lot of the gemstones that start with SOME cause issues, so I put in a few exceptions.
G>point lathe at malachite
You think you could cut some raw green velvet malachite into some raw green velvet malachite with a steel lathe, which can then be used for weaving.

G>point lathe at coral
You think you could cut some polished pink coral into a polished pink coral bead with a steel lathe, which can then be used for weaving.

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Pasted the wrong malachite information, one second.

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G>point lathe at my mala
You think you could cut some raw green velvet malachite into a green velvet malachite nodule with a steel lathe, which can then be used for weaving.

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Before, it was only giving you "a malachite" <noun>.

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Also, I was given a bug report that said "Coral will only create bead or noun of coral" and it is noted in ANALYZE that coral has that behavior. Here's the snippet from the analyze:
Stones
These items include the following: bluerock, coral, feldspar, and stone. They can either retain their gemstone noun OR will default to bead.

orchid pumice
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With the previous iteration of the unlocked weaving lathe, if "gem article+gem adjective" were more than 15 characters, it only pushed out the pattern in the article to still become "gem color+adjective/gem noun/bead option" as a cut weavable. Now, it appears to cut off both the entire article AND the entire adjective such that a gem like "a purple stormcloud diamond" will only become "a diamond blossom" instead of the previous "stormcloud diamond bead" that such a gem would have been able to produce.

You think you could cut a purple stormcloud diamond into a diamond blossom with a polished rose-etched lathe fashioned of gold, which can then be used for weaving.

nocturne trail
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I'll have to test with the stormcloud diamonds because I wasn't experiencing this at all last night. I can test when I get home.

nocturne trail
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point lathe at dia
You think you could cut a purple stormcloud diamond into a stormcloud diamond rose with a steel lathe, which can then be used for weaving.

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This is now live.

orchid pumice
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thanks

timid fulcrum
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Soooo um if I have an issue with the lathe (I think it's the beads actually) and I need it fixed by Sunday for the Revelia Gala... 🙈😅

nocturne trail
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What is the issue?

timid fulcrum
# nocturne trail What is the issue?

You think you could cut a furry golden yellow and ebon honeybee into a yellow and eb yellow and ebon honeybee with an oak-hafted polished steel lathe, which can then be used for weaving.

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"yellow and eb yellow and ebon"

nocturne trail
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Huh... interesting since bugs are handled differently. Let me look.

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What are your settings?

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I just can ran through a bunch of stuff and it seems to be working for me.

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And what was the result you were hoping for?

timid fulcrum
nocturne trail
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I found the issue.

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testing it now

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You think you could cut a furry golden yellow and ebon honeybee into a furry golden honeybee bead with a steel lathe, which can then be used for weaving.

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I think that's the result you were hoping for?

timid fulcrum
nocturne trail
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You lose it because it shifts everything down.. .

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so...

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Insect Article ---> Bead Article
Insect Noun ---> Bead Adjective
Bead is the new noun

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Even though an adjective field on the insect can be 15 characters, when you move it to the artucke field it MUST include "an" or "a" and that gets tricky, which is why ebon lost the "on" on it.

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This fix is in. For what it is worth, an assist would not have fixed your lathe. However, a BUG report would have. You can type BUGITEM in game to see how that works.

timid fulcrum
nocturne trail
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I received three lathe bugs but they are dated from before the last update on the 12th. I'm going to close them, as I believe I handled them in the update on the 12th. If the error is still occurring, please re-bug them.

abstract oracle
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Crossposted to the crafting server.

celest gulch
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all of the sea creatures I'm trying to cut from Nielira harbor are creating weirdness . You are now holding a translucent peach blossom jellyfish. You set the peach blossom jellyfish in your polished steel lathe, and make it go! A translucent jellyfish jellyfish pops out and falls into your left hand.

nocturne trail
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Please bug the jellyfish and the lathe.

nocturne trail
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@shut obsidian Please double analyze your lathe.
Stones
These items include the following: bluerock, coral, feldspar, and stone. They can either retain their gemstone noun OR will default to bead.

shut obsidian
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i did and though my lathe is a T2 and its on gemstone art gemstone noun im using it on pink coral and it has no option but bead.i see on previous post where you used pink coral with the lathe using gemstone art /gemstone noun and it worked fine the pink coral came out as Pink coral (noun) and not as a bead

nocturne trail
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Perhaps I'm just not understanding the issue. You want it to be pink coral or you want it to be pink coral bead?

shut obsidian
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when i have it on gemstone art/gemstone noun to come out as pink coral

nocturne trail
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SO it is ONLY producing bead. Got it.

shut obsidian
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right so how it should be is when i cut the coral with the lathe it comes out Pink coral and NOT pink coral bead because i feel like if i did want a bead i could turn it to become a bead but thats not what i want nor what its turned to which is gemstone art/gemstone noun

shut obsidian
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Thandiwe will you be able to fix the lathe so pink coral comes out just pink coral from the lathe again?

nocturne trail
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Yes. When I have a moment.

nocturne trail
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I believe this was resolved. FYI.

olive wind
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This is a super weird bug...

You think you could cut a book-incised vivid yellow sunstone into a book-incised sunstone bauble with a small steel-tipped lathe with an oak handle, which can then be used for weaving.
>cut my sun with my lathe
You set the vivid yellow sunstone in your steel-tipped lathe, and make it go!  A vivid yellow sunstone bauble pops out and falls into your right hand.```

```You think you could cut a book-incised blush-hearted sunstone into a book-incised sunstone bauble with a small steel-tipped lathe with an oak handle, which can then be used for weaving.
>cut my sun with my lathe
You set the blush-hearted sunstone in your steel-tipped lathe, and make it go!  A blush-hearted sunstone bauble pops out and falls into your left hand.```

This happened four times with different stones. 

And using a simple uncut sunstone caused this:

```You set the sunstone in your steel-tipped lathe, and make it go!  A book-incised  sunstone bauble pops out and falls into your right hand.```
nocturne trail
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Please submit a bug report....

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Cut and POINT should offer identical results. I can't fathom why they don't.

olive wind
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I will! Was thinking maybe I didn’t understand it. I also don’t know there’d be an extra space in the last one.

olive wind
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CUT and POINT are definitely not showing identical results.

You think you could cut a book-incised sunstone into a book-incised sunstone bauble with a small steel-tipped lathe with an oak handle, which can then be used for weaving.
>cut my sun with my lathe
You set the sunstone in your steel-tipped lathe, and make it go!  A book-incised  sunstone bauble pops out and falls into your right hand.```

Tried again with just a regular uncut sunstone and this time the POINT was right and the cut was not (the first time the extra space was in both). I've bugged both versions.
nocturne trail
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Yea, point and cut use the same mechanics so it should do the same thing.