#[Official] The Hive

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unique warren
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SMR is like the great equalizer...have amazing gear? LOL OPEN ROLL

cold ridge
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Well he said as much in SimuCon

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He talked about how folks try to be numerically unstoppable and SMR is one of the ways that counters that.

I actually like it. I like the idea of a “punchers chance” of something going wrong.

“You only gotta bleep up once. Be a little too slow, a little too late, just once.” - Avon Barksdale

timid hearth
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Going to complain next time one of my character's dies on a Sunday

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Got to respect the truce

cold ridge
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Well done

versed sluice
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three is the same as two plus broodtenders, it's really the strandweavers that set it all up (much like the wargs who are the ones who really put you in peril in HW).. three at least is a symmetrical map so you can move through on memory alone heh

versed sluice
cold ridge
unique warren
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do the kiramon shake off 118 since the strandweavers can make webs or anything?

serene iris
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stalkers, myrmidons, thralls don't shake web. myrmidons can remove web from other webbed enemies. I think the kresh might break webs

cold ridge
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Yo is there a drought on Gemstones in the Hive? All those rocks and gems and I ain't find JACK! lol

smoky pendant
weary quail
# cold ridge Yo is there a drought on Gemstones in the Hive? All those rocks and gems and I ...

I found my only one not in the easy week in the hive.

I would actually bet that there’s probably a higher rate in the hive in other places. The problem is that it’s probably a higher rate per search, but the relative power level of critters in the hive and the fact that a slightly lower spawn rate makes the practical application that seem like they get pulled less maybe. Who knows what the actual odds are but a one and 5000 chance when you get to do five searches a minute versus a one and 4000 chance when you get to do two searches a minute I would take the earlier one.

All that is to say who freaking knows man I certainly don’t. I do know that loot pressure factors into gemstones pull rates, and there’s less pressure in the hive.

cold ridge
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You know what's the scariest part of the Hive?

Roundtime: 8 sec.```
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Off skinning something. That's some bull

weary quail
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[Kresh Warrens, Hewn Tunnel - 34198] (u13041127)
Warm air billows from the northeastern end of the passage, where the tunnel gives way to a cavernous space.  Rapidly dripping water echoes from within a ragged cleft set partway up the tunnel wall.  You also see a disfigured hive thrall.
Obvious exits: northeast, south
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Frantically, a disfigured hive thrall raises his shaking hands to his temples, terrible power crackling in his eyes.  A wave of invisible force swirls around him in a devastating maelstrom!
[SMR result: 186 (Open d100: 183, Penalty: 1)]
Psionic energy crashes into you, hurling you off your feet!
   ... 45 points of damage!
   Your cheek shatters, driving bones into your eye.
Your regal influence and extra strength swiftly drift away.
Your SIGN OF WARDING is no longer effective.
You feel the aura of confidence leave you.
The swirling breeze around you finally settles.
... and the list of things that fell off because YOU DEAD, DUDE goes on and on...

What attack is that? Went to check the wiki and it doesn't look like any of the things for the Hive Thrall. Was going to update it

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I also asked in the mechanics thread.

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Okay. Its... something! Wiki updated with details.

cold ridge
weary quail
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Right?! I just walked into the room! lol. I was like, "!($!(@$* just happened?!"

cold ridge
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That's the Hive for you. Blink and you dead or jacked up from something.

weary quail
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No kidding. I love this place

serene iris
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I think that was listed as psychic assault

cold ridge
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Man I want lore on these thralls. Yardie has a worry of Empaths, and this adds to it.

serene iris
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but yeah that's a thrall special

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thralls have a LOT of abilities

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many of which you don't see that often

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really you don't want to see any of them because you want to knock these guys over

cold ridge
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I nearly got hugged once but I usually flatten them.

weary quail
weary quail
cold ridge
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I'm kinda glad for that, because it makes me less comfortable, and less comfort means more caution.

weary quail
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More caution usually means more death

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I'm just trying to get through my lumnis brooch for the day. I've died twice. I've spent WAY more time resting. Maybe I could use some of your caution.

cold ridge
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Nah I go slow. Peer. Patience. Breathe.

Though it's been a bit swarmy recently. Not necessarily a bad thing. I can complete a bounty after a few runs.

weary quail
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Maybe that's what it is. The swarms. Might be better to move to the second level to avoid the swarms.

cold ridge
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I mean, unless I'm getting ganked at the barrier, I should be fine.

oak loom
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The second level always seems more swarmy to me.

weary quail
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Okay. Thralls have always area webbed? Strange I never saw that before today.

serene iris
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any critter that can web will area web if they prep and you leave the room

weary quail
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But he/she/it/thrall/thingy area webbed when I was in the room? Oh! I probably hid. That checks.

cold ridge
unique warren
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need a polymorph profession pot to hive thrall. they have such a nice mix of abilities

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some mental looking attack SMR critted me yesterday and blew my body into another room just as a cherry on top

cold ridge
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What the?!

unique warren
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Frantically, a disfigured hive thrall raises his shaking hands to his temples, terrible power crackling in his eyes.  A wave of invisible force swirls around him in a devastating maelstrom!
[SMR result: 194 (Open d100: 187)]
Psionic energy crashes into you, hurling you off your feet!
   ... 69 points of damage!
Trails of fiery scarlet race across your somnis field plate as rage ignites within you!
   Heart explodes rupturing your chest.
You feel less confident than before.
The tingling sensation and sense of security leaves you.
You suddenly feel less light-footed.
The silvery luminescence fades from around you.
You feel your extra strength departing.
The light blue glow leaves you.
You lose your extra internal fortitude.
The brilliant luminescence fades from around you.
The bright luminescence fades from around you.
The layer of protection fades away.
The misty halo fades from you.
The very powerful look leaves you.
The white light leaves you.
You feel the extra courage wane.
The deep blue glow leaves you.
The brilliant aura fades away from you.
Your boosted confidence and fearlessness fade.
The dull golden nimbus fades from around you.
You notice your blood flow go back to normal.
The powerful look leaves you.

It seems you have died, my friend.  Although you cannot do anything, you are keenly aware of what is going on around you...

You mentally give a sigh of relief as you remember that the Goddess Lorminstra owes you a favor.

...departing in 16 mins...
Thrown by the impact, your corpse sails west!```
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i mean lets be honest, all 187 open rolls should result in death

weary quail
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Yup. I got launched too.

Another time I got launched without dying. Then got stomped by stalkers while stunned after being launched.

weary quail
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Yeah. You’re probably right though

timid hearth
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SMR SvD: +33 + Bonus: +25 + o100 roll: +386 == +444
Hindered by the churning terrain, you are helpless as the concealed assailant's mandibles snap at you from the safety of its pit trap!
A nebulous steel grey latticework springs up from the surface of your kelyn-banded armor and shields you from some of the damage!
Limned in radiance, a translucent pale golden shield springs into being between you and your attacker to temper the blow!
Some kelyn-banded armor partially deflects the onslaught of the puncture attack.
   ... 15 points of damage!
   Well placed strike to back shatters vertebrae!
   You are knocked to the ground!
   You are stunned for 4 rounds!```
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Good grief

cold ridge
timid hearth
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Nope! No stalker came by luckily

main cargo
weary quail
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wow... that's a 1/8000 chance roll. sheesh

viscid cedar
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ahh right through a lot of crit padding and 10% disruption resist

Frantically, a disfigured hive thrall raises his shaking hands to his temples, terrible power crackling in his eyes. A wave of invisible force swirls around him in a devastating maelstrom!
[SMR result: 211 (Open d100: 187, Bonus: 7)]
Psionic energy crashes into you, hurling you off your feet!
Your body resists the disruptive damage and lessens the severity of the attack!
... 48 points of damage!
Your stomach rips through your flesh and explodes.

cold ridge
viscid cedar
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probably a situation for 40% disruption resists

tall plaza
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Is this a stalker doing this from hiding or something?

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You feel at full magical power again.
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A turbulent wave of psychic energy buffets you!
SSR SvD: +26 + o100 roll: +79 == +105
You stagger beneath the force of the ethereal assault!
   ... 5 points of damage!
   
>incant 608
You make a simple motion, quietly invoking the Camouflage spell...
Your spell is ready.
You come out of hiding.
You gesture.
You blend into invisibility among the surroundings.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
>l
[Seething Crescent, Overlook - 34224] (u13041214)
Buffeted by wind born from a clash between heat washing up from below and the cold of the air so far beneath the surface, the overlook juts out over the strange geometries of the plaza below.  From the finger of craggy black stone, the crystal at the center of the aberrant construction is clearly visible, colossal in size though it is still half-buried in unyielding bedrock.  Pulses of energy flash within the pale depths, oddly hypnotic in their branching patterns.  You also see a forest ocelot.
Obvious exits: east
cold ridge
tall plaza
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Maybe it is?

timid hearth
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Yeah it is.

tall plaza
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Always assumed it came from a mob! Thanks.

timid hearth
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There’s another disruption SSR ravagers do and you’ll know all about it when that happens

tall plaza
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Yeah, I know the other one, heh. And I've seen this one before too. I just don't ever recall seeing it without mobs in the room, and I just assumed it was one of them doing it. TIL.

atomic island
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Yeah, this is one of the Hive's psyquakes

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Those happen periodically

cold ridge
atomic island
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Not in this case. I vaguely recall Auchand using the word, and I love the name.

cold ridge
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I want more Thrall lore. Are they psionicists? Are aelotoi with a psychic disposition? Want to learn more!

tall plaza
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I'm going to move this here instead of mechanics:

2025-04-15T11:41:12-0500: Your wiregrass anklet pulses briefly, deflecting some of the natural damage!  The anklet glints one last time, then grows dim.
2025-04-15T11:41:12-0500:    ... 10 points of damage!
2025-04-15T11:41:12-0500:    Acid burn on the right ear!
2025-04-15T11:41:12-0500:    You are stunned for 1 round!```
That's from April 15, and it's the first time of my year or so primarily hunting the hive where I've seen ravagers' acid stuff mitigated by the nature resist on a ranger trinket. I've seen it 5 other times in the last 3 days.

So what changed? Is the ravagers' thing nature damage now despite the acid-like messaging? Or is the nature resist from the ranger trinket also covering acid damage?
smoky pendant
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The wisteria vine lashes out at a corpulent kresh ravager, wraps itself around its body and entangles it on the floor.
   ... 20 points of damage!
   Hard shove to the back staggers the kresh ravager.
[SMR result: 201 (Open d100: 173, Penalty: 22)]
Acidic ooze erupts from a corpulent kresh ravager's flesh like pus out of a rupturing boil, dousing Anarquendi with corrosive goop!
   ... 30 points of damage!
   Large swig of acid enters mouth.  Swelling cuts off essential breathing!

 * Anarquendi drops dead at your feet!```
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Dang it.

tall plaza
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Well you're not supposed to drink it.

smoky pendant
cold ridge
smoky pendant
indigo nymph
tall plaza
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Oh, interesting, maybe it's some play with 603 that I've never thought about.

Here's one sample: 2025-04-15T13:23:17-0500: Patches of discolored rot spread further, eating away at a corpulent kresh ravager! 2025-04-15T13:23:17-0500: The murky haze surrounding a corpulent kresh ravager seems to accelerate the violent decay! 2025-04-15T13:23:17-0500: ... 12 points of damage! 2025-04-15T13:23:17-0500: Large patches of skin removed from back, giving glimpses of musculature beneath! 2025-04-15T13:23:17-0500: [SMR result: 299 (Open d100: 286, Penalty: 28)] 2025-04-15T13:23:17-0500: Acidic ooze erupts from a corpulent kresh ravager's flesh like pus out of a rupturing boil, dousing you with corrosive goop! 2025-04-15T13:23:17-0500: Your wiregrass anklet pulses briefly, deflecting some of the natural damage! The anklet glints one last time, then grows dim. 2025-04-15T13:23:17-0500: ... 70 points of damage! 2025-04-15T13:23:17-0500: Acid eats away your spine and most of what's under it. 2025-04-15T13:23:17-0500: You are knocked to the ground! 2025-04-15T13:23:17-0500: You are stunned for 5 rounds! 2025-04-15T13:23:17-0500: The earthy, sweet aroma clinging to a corpulent kresh ravager grows more pervasive.

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Here's another:

2025-04-15T15:25:29-0500: Kyrvil gestures at a corpulent kresh ravager.
2025-04-15T15:25:29-0500: Dusty, discolored flecks bloom on a corpulent kresh ravager and ripen the air with the redolence of decay.
2025-04-15T15:25:29-0500:   CS: +524 - TD: +381 + CvA: +25 + d100: +88 == +256
2025-04-15T15:25:29-0500:   Warding failed!
2025-04-15T15:25:29-0500: The rot takes root and spreads, eroding a corpulent kresh ravager before your eyes.
2025-04-15T15:25:29-0500:    ... 15 points of damage!
2025-04-15T15:25:29-0500:    Chunks of flesh vaporized on right leg!
2025-04-15T15:25:29-0500:    The kresh ravager is stunned!
2025-04-15T15:25:29-0500: [SMR result: 129 (Open d100: 182, Penalty: 4)]
2025-04-15T15:25:29-0500: Acidic ooze erupts from a corpulent kresh ravager's flesh like pus out of a rupturing boil, dousing you with corrosive goop!
2025-04-15T15:25:29-0500: Your wiregrass anklet pulses briefly, deflecting some of the natural damage!  The anklet glints one last time, then grows dim.
2025-04-15T15:25:29-0500:    ... 5 points of damage!
2025-04-15T15:25:29-0500:    Drop of acid gets in your eye!  Better flush it out.
2025-04-15T15:25:29-0500: Soot brown specks of leaf mold trail in the wake of a corpulent kresh ravager's movements, distorted by a murky haze.```
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Actually, maybe this is tied into the 603 bugs that were happening the other day?

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Yeah, all the occurrences involved my ranger casting 603 first.

frigid canopy
main cargo
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Noooooooooooooo

keen dagger
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That's good for non-squares

main cargo
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balance pass of all Ascension areas.
I don't feel like this is going to be doing us any favors.

cold ridge
main cargo
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Mystic Defense Roll?

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#gemstones message

frigid canopy
small crag
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Wait, why would it be an MDR? Is it magical in nature?

atomic island
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Yeah, that confuses me... it's a roar, right?

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It's an SSR, therefore, like a warrior's warcries

versed sluice
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MDR means I can absorb it?

main cargo
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MDR means warrior goes splat

versed sluice
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eh, I need a challenge

timid hearth
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MDR is especially rough for non-magic squares since you have no non-MDR reason to train any of the relevant skills at all

unreal mason
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I'm all for ascension areas getting harder - that sounds exciting

timid hearth
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I do think some of the fresh cap alts who got carried through the gemstones quest need to be filtered

cold ridge
frigid canopy
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But yeah, I think there's an argument that SSRs aren't really super balanced, and a mental MDR would make more sense for ravager stuff, too.

keen dagger
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Oh boy. Probably a very small risk case (might just be me!), but be careful with chainspears in the hive. Apparently they can be disarmed when HURLed (not normally a thing) via the exoskeleton mechanic. Then, via warrior bond the HEAD of the spear returns to hand, which then breaks everything:


Your talon-bladed spear lashes forth to its fullest extent, separating smoothly into long, kelyn-linked segments!  With a quick flick of your wrist, you deftly send a ghezyte spear head trailed by a thin kelyn chain into flight.
You swing your spear head at a sleek black kiramon stalker.  The weapon rebounds off of the hardened chitin of the stalker's exoskeleton and is wrenched from your hand.  It slides along the ground and disappears into the shadows!
[Use the RECOVER ITEM command while in the appropriate room to regain your item.]
Roundtime: 4 sec.
Roundtime changed to 1 second.

[hunter]>pull my shaft

What were you referring to?
[hunter]>stance forward

You are now in a forward stance.

[hunter]>stow  #1469085758

You slip a ghezyte spear head trailed by a thin kelyn chain beneath your mist tartan cloak and into one of several concealed pockets.

[hunter]>gird

Could not find a segmented talon-bladed spear in your inventory.
You are already holding a mirror-finish wall shield wrought as an unfurled wyvern's wing.

PALADIN picks up a luminous glowbark spear shaft.
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Update: Apparently the SHAFT was disarmed as a separate entity. Wild sequence of events

tall plaza
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Yeah, returners can be disarmed by the exoskeleton mechanic too.

keen dagger
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Good to know!

indigo nymph
keen dagger
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I'll keep an eye out, thanks!

unique warren
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do any dispels etc. get rid of the larval infestation debuff?

cold ridge
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What happens when you get infested?

unique warren
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far as I can tell its a moderate DoT for about 3 ticks

lilac granite
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Shazaam!

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You lob a dimly luminescent boltstone into the air.  It lands nearby and shatters, sending a coruscating web of electricity rippling outward from the point of impact!
[SMR result: 218 (Open d100: 35, Bonus: 100)]
Scintillating electricity arcs over a bloated kiramon broodtender's body!
   ... 60 points of damage!
   Powerful blast reduces the kiramon broodtender to a smoldering pile of ash!

[You have 2 kills remaining.]
The conflagration of rage continues to burn within your soul, reinfusing you with an onslaught of unstoppable wrath!
A bloated kiramon broodtender's legs kick savagely as she collapses, belching swarms of tiny, pale larvae.  They scatter wildly as she surrenders to death.```
cold ridge
atomic island
lilac granite
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I dodged the flying larvae, but got one injected into me... do I have an UNLUCKY charm? That brootender triggered a lucky roll:

You hear the soft tinkle of rolling dice, followed by a faint lucky feeling.
[SMR result: -12 (Open d100: 69, Penalty: 3)]
You dodge the larvae's ravenous assault!
R>
A bloated kiramon broodtender whips tendrils toward you in an attempt to entangle you!
You hear the soft tinkle of rolling dice, followed by a faint lucky feeling.
[SMR result: 338 (Open d100: 305, Penalty: 3)]
The tendrils embrace you ungently, heedless of your squirming.  They draw you toward the broodtender, which extends her proboscis as tiny, pale-bodied kiramon larvae begin swarming over the tip.  The broodtender lunges forward to spear your abdomen, injecting her squirming young into your chest cavity!
   ... 79 points of damage!
   Perfect strike to abdomen.  You scream in anguish and drop quite dead!```
ruby tiger
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that deserves a WARN Broodtender of Unconsent

lilac granite
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By definition of the bard luck service on wiki, if that roll was the "better" result, there must have been an even worse original result? sheesh

cold ridge
atomic island
cold ridge
tall plaza
smoky pendant
# cold ridge There it is. Thank you 
You lob a dimly luminescent boltstone into the air.  It lands nearby and shatters, sending a coruscating web of electricity rippling outward from the point of impact!
[SMR result: 313 (Open d100: 88, Bonus: 112)]
Scintillating electricity arcs over a chitinous kiramon myrmidon's body!
   ... 95 points of damage!
   Hideously bright electrical bolt sends right arm into another universe.  Happy traveling.
[SMR result: 241 (Open d100: 26, Bonus: 109)]
Scintillating electricity arcs over a disfigured hive thrall's body!
   ... 75 points of damage!
   Hideously bright electrical bolt sends right leg into another universe.  Happy traveling.
[SMR result: 285 (Open d100: 65, Bonus: 116)]
Scintillating electricity arcs over a chitinous kiramon myrmidon's body!
   ... 120 points of damage!
   Massive electrical bolt burns a hole through the back and kidneys.
[You have earned 60 prestige points.]
A chitinous kiramon myrmidon collapses, his forelegs spasming and twitching before he at last surrenders to death.
A chitinous kiramon myrmidon's movements no longer appear hampered as the lunar light encircling him fades away.
[SMR result: 262 (Open d100: 60, Bonus: 102)]
Scintillating electricity arcs over a spectral kiramon myrmidon's body!
   ... 95 points of damage!
   Massive strike to the chest crashes through the kiramon myrmidon's back in a cloud of vapor.
   Slowly, the kiramon myrmidon reforms its torso.
A disfigured hive thrall shakes free from her stunned state, her monstrous features twitching painfully!```
cold ridge
lilac granite
tall plaza
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I have a hypothesis that otherwise helpful loot pressure makes enhancives dropped in the hive more likely to be worse than those dropped in areas with less favorable loot pressure, due to the inflated values associated with skill ranks on enhancives.

Apropos of nothing, if anyone's looking a 600,000 silver necklace with 2 demonology ranks and 1 necromancy rank, it's on the ZL pawn table.

cold ridge
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Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh!!!!!

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The ground beneath your feet rumbles precipitously.
You come out of hiding.
You take a quick half step back.
[SMR result: 418 (Open d100: 390, Penalty: 3)]
An eruption of shattered rock and dirt hurtles you skyward as a corpulent kresh ravager explodes from its burrow!
   ... 7 points of damage!
   Torn muscle in your right leg!
   ... 1 point of damage!
   Your wrist is twisted slightly.
   ... 10 points of damage!
   Bones in right arm crack.
   ... 10 points of damage!
   Invisible force gives you a rabbit punch.
   You are knocked to the ground!
   ... 3 points of damage!
   Minor puncture to the right arm.
   ... 15 points of damage!
   Respectable shot to your back.
   You are stunned for 1 round!
   ... 2 points of damage!
   Attack hits your throat but doesn't break the skin.
   Close!
   ... 10 points of damage!
   Pop!  Kneecap wrenched.
   ... 5 points of damage!
   Chest hit causes you to spin around like a halfling after a fresh tart.
   ... 10 points of damage!
   Slash to your shield arm!
   Shears off a thin layer of skin!
   ... 10 points of damage!
   Side strike shoves you several feet sideways.
Roundtime: 15 sec.```
unique warren
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390...niiiiice. universe is upset with you tonight

cold ridge
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The trippy part is that I survived that

cold ridge
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What does this do exactly?

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A disfigured hive thrall desperately thrusts a hand at you!
A black ball full of pinpoints of light forms before the thrall.  It quickly grows in size until he unleashes the dark cloud before him and the dark cloud instantaneously spreads throughout the entire room!

The starry void envelops you!
  CS: +364 - TD: +328 + CvA: -7 + d100: +74 == +103
  Warding failed!
You are pulled against your will into the void!  The world around you instantly disappears!  An open expanse of black broken by tiny pinpoints of light surrounds you as you tumble about in empty space.  Amorphous nebulae of pink, blue, purple and green swirl passed as you writhe around with nothing to hold onto.  Finally, after what seems like an eternity, you are yanked back to the familiar world of Elanthia.  Apparently, no time has elapsed since your departure as you find yourself staring at the scene you left earlier.  The only souvenirs from your journey are a sick feeling in your stomach and a powerful sense of vertigo.```
serene iris
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gives you a ton of roundtime

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boo

slim patio
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nogif4u

cold ridge
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Yeah I was stuck for a while. But I'm glad it was just a 103.

timid hearth
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SMR SvD: +33 + o100 roll: +301 == +334
The lightning strikes you in an agonizing eruption of liquid radiance!
Your wiregrass anklet pulses briefly, deflecting some of the electrical damage!  The anklet glints one last time, then grows dim.
   ... 44 points of damage!
   Electrical shock overloads your nervous system!  Quite fatal.```
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lol

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glad i had that ranger trinket, that could have been bad!

keen dagger
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Someone need's an Astral Spark jewel!

timid hearth
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Yeah I'm going to pick up a single prop astral spark on cleric and just equip it for hive hunts, not bothering to upgrade it. I want to opt out of that cheap roulette death mechanic

keen dagger
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I've been surprisingly pleased with my incidental one, especially considering how much I'm preferring the Hive recently due to HW overcrowding. It's very nice to not have to worry about the apparatus, and just having it on the leader protects the whole squad

timid hearth
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Yeah that's a smart way to use it for sure. I've been glad to have the one I found on my monk, along with greenthumb, but even with an 80% refund on the horizon it was definitely not worth upgrading astral spark at all imo. Eating the trap is the boon, the buffs are not worth the dust

keen dagger
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Yeah, definitely not a priority anyway. Maybe someday when I have the infinity dust everyone is predicting

faint valley
keen dagger
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It's a bit odd that it isn't also +CS

weary quail
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I love my astral spark hivestone. Also comes with opportunistic sadism. Granted we still don’t know what “poisoned” is for this. (My testing indicates Ranger vines do not count. I’m hopeful that gets changed still)

versed sluice
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R>get bol
You retrieve a squat glass tincture of effervescent bolmara from within your survival kit.``` You know what this leads to lolllllllllll ☠️
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literally the last thing to enter my inventory is the boltstone, but no lets pull up a potion sure

atomic island
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This reminds me of the classic idea of the Handy Haversack. It's bigger on the inside than the outside, and when you reach into it, you can retrieve the item you're thinking of even without looking.

Now I'm imagining a cursed or malfunctioning version of the same that always pulls out the wrong item 😆

timid hearth
unique warren
keen dagger
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The ravager's screech startles you!
   ... 30 points of damage!
   Vertebrae ripped from body!  Your head falls into shoulders.```
ow.
vale wigeon
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Can you hear me now?

tall plaza
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Rough day for me too:```Relentless in your assault, you unleash a frenzy of violence upon a corpulent kresh ravager!
You attempt to jab a corpulent kresh ravager!
You have good positioning against a corpulent kresh ravager.
UAF: 896 vs UDF: 684 = 1.309 * MM: 108 + d100: 91 = 232
... and hit for 28 points of damage!
Repeated strikes to the chest drive the kresh ravager further off-balance!
Strike leaves foe vulnerable to a followup kick attack!

** Necrotic energy from your mithril-spiked gloves overflows into you! **
You feel healed!

** Snowflakes form in midair around a corpulent kresh ravager as the temperature between you plummets! **
... 15 points of damage!
The kresh ravager failed to sidestep the chilly blast. Bruised ribs anyone?
SMR SvD: +25 - Penalty: +22 + o100 roll: +286 == +289
Acidic ooze erupts from a corpulent kresh ravager's flesh like pus out of a rupturing boil, dousing you with corrosive goop!
Limned in radiance, a translucent bright white shield springs into being between you and your attacker to temper the blow!
Your body resists the acidic damage and lessens the severity of the attack!
... 55 points of damage!
Blast of acid washes your head off clean... and clean off!```

smoky pendant
#

Yeah, I've started using my non-flaring bow just because of those random ravager deaths.

#

I'm just waiting for the day I'm walking through the room and someone else's random ravager reactive flare kills me.

# 
  AS: +524 vs DS: +443 with AvD: +30 + d100 roll: +63 = +174
   ... and hit for 35 points of damage!
   Well aimed shot almost removes an eye!
   The kresh ravager is stunned!
A corpulent kresh ravager is buffeted by a sudden gust of wind!
Nature's blessing of vitality departs as your strength returns to its previous state.
Riotous golden energy races along the surface of the bow, slender tendrils rising up to coalesce into the ethereal form of a regal tiger.

** Baring its sharp teeth in a snarl, a regal ethereal tiger charges forward with a deafening roar as an ambush of wispy golden tigers roil forth in an angry torrent! **

   ... 30 points of damage!
   Hand twists painfully behind the back as the kresh ravager is thrown forward!
[SMR result: 314 (Open d100: 268, Penalty: 7)]
Acidic ooze erupts from a corpulent kresh ravager's flesh like pus out of a rupturing boil, dousing Aharil with corrosive goop!
   ... 70 points of damage!
   Acid bath empties chest.  It's a lot cleaner now.

 * Aharil drops dead at your feet!```
serene iris
#

my only piece of advice about the acid blood is remember that their SMR offense is dependent on their stance so stancing them is making them better at bleeding on you

rotund karma
#

Good morrow to ye, Hive thread. So I've heard that The Hive is the place to go if you are a square and I want try it out. I've mainly been hunting the scatter and ME. KS warrior. I've tried to peruse this thread and from what I gathered I should beware ravager screams, stalkers will kill me if I'm stunned, there are webs, acid blood...and isn't there some kind of death traps that you can walk into? Bolt stones? TL:DR what should I know before I just barge into the Hive and start swinging at things?

tall plaza
#

You should PEER before moving. Most of the time, that'll be sufficient to spot a trap. There are two types of traps: the first are the boltstone traps, which require you to first SEARCH them out before disarming, either via DISARM, or via any number of spells. The second are the pit/chompychompy traps, which just require the SEARCH and no follow up (assuming you succeed on the roll).

Sometimes, a trap will get you even if you peer.

rotund karma
#

I see. That is the type of info I needed. So what can a warrior with no disarm skill do against a bolt stone if encountered? Can I spell cleave it? Bash it? Or is it just peer and avoid?

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(seems like bash it or spell cleave would just electrocute me to death but asking nevertheless)

keen dagger
#

Grab an astral spark gemstone and abosrb it for UNLIMITED POWAH!1!11!

tall plaza
#

No idea what the best move is for warriors, sorry. My bard uses 408, cleric uses 119, and ranger uses 602

timid hearth
versed sluice
#

just move past it and do your best to berserk through the stun

rotund karma
#

Sounds like I should invest in lightning resist. Speaking of lightning, will my own lightning flares get me killed?

tall plaza
#

No, your own flares won't kill you. And yeah, a ranger resist trinket is super useful.

rotund karma
#

I might need to work on perception for this. Currently at 1x. I was going to prioritize getting to 200 ranks of MoC which...is 45 more ranks.

tall plaza
#

Finding either type of trap isn't so bad, but disarming the boltstones is tough. As far as I know, we're not even sure what stats affect the base success chance.

smoky pendant
keen dagger
lilac granite
vale wigeon
#

Hive is hoppin

#

Had 4 myrmidons pop on me at once

timid hearth
#

I love the Hive

vale wigeon
#

I needed a change from HW

smoky pendant
#

I'm starting to really dislike Eviscerate and Coup.

# 
A sleek black kiramon stalker uncoils from the shadows, poised to eviscerate Aharil!
[SMR result: 136 (Open d100: 93)]
Catching him unaware, it carves into Aharil with cruel and ruthless savagery!
   ... 10 points of damage!
   Smooth slash to Aharil's hip!
   Nice crunching sound.
   ... 14 points of damage!
Blood sprays from Aharil's abdomen in a crimson arc!
   ... 4 points of damage!
[SSR result: 107 (Open d100: 78)]
Your limbs lock and you quiver with fright!
Upon witnessing a sleek black kiramon stalker's vicious display, you find yourself profoundly unsettled.

A sleek black kiramon stalker stumbles slightly as it leaps from hiding, revealing itself in the process.
A sleek black kiramon stalker uncoils from the shadows, poised to eviscerate you!
[SMR result: 252 (Open d100: 93, Bonus: 100)]
Catching you unaware, it carves into you with cruel and ruthless savagery!
   ... 10 points of damage!
   Smooth slash to your hip!
   Nice crunching sound.
   ... 35 points of damage!
Blood sprays from your abdomen in a crimson arc!
   ... 24 points of damage!
[SSR result: 146 (Open d100: 50)]
Aharil freezes in place, quivering with fright!
Upon witnessing a sleek black kiramon stalker's vicious display, Aharil appears profoundly unsettled.```
# 
[SMR result: 199 (Open d100: 33, Bonus: 108)]
A sleek black kiramon stalker drives its hands deep into your abdomen, grabbing your spine and pulling it forward!  A loud *CRUNCH* later, your torso falls backwards over your sagging legs.  Ouch.

A sleek black kiramon stalker lunges towards Aharil, most likely intending to finish him off!
[SMR result: 210 (Open d100: 20, Bonus: 111)]
A sleek black kiramon stalker grabs Aharil by the head and twists violently!  You can hear neck bones snap with a loud *CRACK* as the rest of his body goes limp!

 * Aharil drops dead at your feet!```
cold ridge
#

This is...what thing again? Let me get off my butt and add this

cold ridge
vale wigeon
cold ridge
#

Cheers!

versed sluice
#

I enjoy when a broodtender is all "regulators, mount up" and a whole squad rolls in

vale wigeon
# 
The guard continues, "Go out to the area where the child was last seen, find him, and bring him back safely to me.  You will probably need to kill some of the creatures that he was last seen fleeing from in order to build up his confidence in you and reveal himself."
>```
#

I remember why I gave up on the Hive now. Frickin child rescue tasks.

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I hate child rescue tasks.

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HATE

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And no. I'm not spending simucoins for a waiver. You let me choose 1 stupid bounty in each town to skip.

tranquil trail
#

have any free ones in your boost menu?
Bounty Task Waivers: 1084

vale wigeon
#

HW has no escort, child rescue, or bandit tasks. Its so much better than Moonsedge and Hive =/

atomic island
#

I must've rescued like 50 children just from the Hive alone by now

small crag
#

You can turn off two of those by setting to accept only Ascension bounties.

tall plaza
slim patio
#

bandits and escort are NOT ascension. So only accepting ASC tasks would remove those

keen dagger
#

~~Thanks for the reminder - I'm nearly positive I complained about the "other" bounty types last time I left HW and someone brought up exactly this (although that might've been in the context of ME). Then I promptly forgot. I did it just a bit ago so I won't forget again!

BTW, you go to the adv guild master asnd ASK ABOUT ASCENSION REQUIRE to do it~~
ALL LIES

# 
Zanic says, "You can ASK me ABOUT how to REQUIRE Ascended bounties, BAN Ascended creatures from your bounties, or accept bounties on BOTH Ascended and normal creatures.

(e.g. ASK Zanic ABOUT ASCENSION REQUIRE)
>qa ask zan about asc requi
Zanic says, "All right, Kaetel, I'll make sure you only get bounties against the most wretched monstrosities there are.  Don't come around crying when they take a chunk out of you, though!"```
tall plaza
#

I do not think that disallows bandits/escorts

keen dagger
#

I have not gotten either since, but I'm only on round two.

tall plaza
# 
Zanic says, "All right, Lunok, I'll make sure you only get bounties against the most wretched monstrosities there are.  Don't come around crying when they take a chunk out of you, though!"
>
You feel more refreshed.
>;go2 advguild
...
>
[Zaratek Hall, Alcove - 9445] (u13014109)
Pale stone walls enclose this alcove on three sides, flecked randomly with glossy mica.  Corkboards and bulletins are occupied by an abundance of scrolls delineating tasks and requested services of the guild.  The lone piece of furniture, a sturdy iron-worked stand, supports a thick leather-bound logbook.  You also see an infuriated mountain spirit that is flying around and Guild Taskmaster Signe.
Obvious exits: northeast
>ask task about task
Signe says, "I've got a special mission for you.  A certain client has hired us to provide a protective escort on her upcoming journey.  Go to the Kresh'ar Deep monument and WAIT for her to meet you there.  You must guarantee her safety to Ta'Illistim as soon as you can, being ready for any dangers that the two of you may face.  Good luck!"```
timid hearth
#

You'll still get both. God I wish it opted you out of bandits and escorts lol. That would be peak.

keen dagger
#

We've been scammed!

#

You have been tasked to suppress bandit activity in the Czeroth Caverns near Zul Logoth. You need to kill 21 of them to complete your task

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I mean it's not a problem for me lol. I can just --- Lich: SynchronizeBounties active.

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But it would've been nice!

slim patio
#

So HW is just special in that Bandits and Escorts can't make the journey?

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Lame

tall plaza
#

Too cold, even for bandits.

jovial sleet
#

i guess special as far as asc areas are concerned, other areas have bounty exclusions just by their nature (like sos has no forage or children)

timid hearth
#

No bandits or escorts or child rescues is one of the best parts of Hinterwilds.

tall plaza
#

Bandits in Zul aren't so bad - there's only one region, but it's never crowded. Escorts are objectively terrible and I use waivers 😛

timid hearth
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But they don't drop gemstones. NEXT.

tall plaza
#

Oh yeah I skip them unless I've found my weekly gemstone.

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I'm currently grinding out 50k resource per week on a mutant wizard to finish off a stupid enchanting project I bought from stupid Kaetel, so bandits are an easy way to do that too.

keen dagger
#

"WHAT R U DOING THEY DON'T DROP JEWELS"

tall plaza
#

Hah - to each his own I guess! But I'm all about that sweet, sweet experience.

jovial sleet
#

what are we doing here?

smoky pendant
#

I guess I'm the only one sort of excited about child escort tasks from the Hive. I'm looking to get that Hero title. 😄

tall plaza
#

Child escort tasks, especially from the southern bit of where the broodtenders are, just take so long.

keen dagger
#

Listen, I just do what the taskmaster says. If he only gives me herbs and bandits as my options, I'm gonna do what I must. Thankfully they're quick, as noted

tall plaza
#

I remember ffng said some of the solhaven child bounties are more rooms to get back, but man, these feel like they're miles away

keen dagger
#

I skip most kid rescues unless I don't have a choice. Sometimes the dice roll and I reach the share limit of 4

jovial sleet
smoky pendant
smoky pendant
jovial sleet
#

And man let me tell you, when there's a defenseless halfling child around triton assassins really love living up their name

keen dagger
#

But those kids I do rescue, they've gotta feel pretty special. They get a whole army to escort them

tall plaza
smoky pendant
#

You have succeeded at the Rescue Child task 70 times and failed 4 times.

#

Only 430 more to go.

jovial sleet
timid hearth
keen dagger
jovial sleet
tall plaza
#

A whole orphanage got lost down there

keen dagger
#

TBH dwarf kids probably look a lot like gnomes. They are born with beards right?

jovial sleet
smoky pendant
#

I always sort of thought: isn't it the responsibility of the town guards to watch the ingress/egress points and, I don't know, STOP kids from wandering off into the wilds?

keen dagger
#

Yeah, the "kids will be kids" does lose a bit of rug-sweeping power when it's the 10,000th time

slim patio
#

I always figured it was something like a group of nefarious actors creating portals which dropped the kids in various places.

jovial sleet
#

Really gotta do background checks on your daycare professionals.

smoky pendant
tall plaza
#

Once bitten, twice shy for those kids - no more portals for them.

jovial sleet
#

if you can hunt it the confluence is actually pretty nice for child bounties, depending on the town (like solhaven exits can be 200 rooms away)

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because once you get your plinites stocked you can use the one to port you and the kid out

slim patio
smoky pendant
small crag
tall plaza
#

I don’t ever recall not getting both of those. Why do you think it’s a bug?

serene iris
#

just annoying because there are so many rooms between the hive and town

#

need to add a minecart at the hive entrance

timid hearth
#

yeah child rescues from the hive take so long to walk back. not as bad as rescuing from bonespear in solhaven, but pretty bad

jovial sleet
#

solhaven. or "what if we made the entire town area just one big long line. what could go wrong?"

#

Solhaven is basically elanthian Chile (the country)

small crag
lilac granite
# 
H>cheer cap
You come out of hiding.
You look at a waxy royal jelly capsule and cheer!```
tall plaza
# small crag Because they’re not Ascension bounties, turning off non-Ascension bounties shoul...

Hm. My interpretation is that when you were tasked with something that could be either ascension or non-ascension, you got your preference. I would not consider this a bug. Otherwise it seems like a really easy way to avoid bandits and escorts.

But maybe that's the point, because hunting in HW already gets you those because of your region? I think that's more of a coincidence though, in the same way Atoll gives no escorts.

keen dagger
#

HW has no child rescues because the guard never leaves the tavern, and it would be improper to expose them to that sort of atmosphere

#

Also the cannibals require sacrifice so they stay out

serene iris
#

The halflings in cold river have given up on the survival of their people

vale wigeon
#

Good god, every other bounty in the hive is a rescue for me

vale wigeon
#

With a final sickening lurch, the larvae inhabiting your body burst free from your orifices and scatter, leaving behind bloody trails.

Ewww

versed sluice
#

orifices 😈

timid hearth
#

Man what the hell

jovial sleet
#

Spoiler: it’s more orifices than you had yesterday

minor salmon
#

My minds eye yields Attack on Titan style visuals when hunting in the hive. The creatures there are of this world. No pun intended. 🤣

smoky pendant
#

I always invision Starship Troopers.

smoky pendant
# 
[SSR result: 148 (Open d100: 79)]
The ravager's screech startles you!
   ... 5 points of damage!
   Strike to your left arm sprains biceps.
Roundtime: 11 sec.
Roundtime changed to 6 seconds.
[SSR result: 243 (Open d100: 204)]
The ravager's screech startles Anarquendi!
   ... 25 points of damage!
   Flesh bubbles on Anarquendi's right leg.
   He is knocked to the ground!
   He is stunned!

[SMR result: 250 (Open d100: 178, Bonus: 10)]
A peak tiger charges forward and slashes her claws at a corpulent kresh ravager faster than it can react!
   ... 20 points of damage!
   Slash to the kresh ravager's lower back!
   The kresh ravager is stunned!
[SMR result: 263 (Open d100: 168, Bonus: 63)]
Acidic ooze erupts from a corpulent kresh ravager's flesh like pus out of a rupturing boil, dousing Anarquendi with corrosive goop!
   ... 65 points of damage!
   Acid Flush!  Anarquendi's brains get washed right out the mouth!

 * Anarquendi drops dead at your feet!```
#

That was less than ideal..

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2 open rolls in a row.

unique warren
#

being that ravagers suck on flares/non AS/DS resolutions...can you add acuity to a melee weapon? i'd rather just have the AS boost instead of a flare that may kill me

keen dagger
#

cannot

unique warren
#

shame

smoky pendant
#

In my case, I walked into a room and the ravager performed their cry before I could 611 (I peered into the room and saw them.)

#

And the instant the attack laneded, my AC attacked and the reactive flare killed me.

smoky pendant
vale wigeon
#

Ghostly hive creatures?

#

Someone not cleaning up after their smooth bone ring?

tall plaza
serene iris
unique warren
#

well yes of course, but as a Hive hunter something other than death flares in the slot would be nice that dont get me killed

vale wigeon
#

Literally the worst place for a child rescue

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timid hearth
#

Solhaven (Bonespear) is worse but yeah it’s a long walk lol

vale wigeon
#

I was in the crystalline depths

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=/

#

No idea how this kid survived

#

[You have earned 1057 bounty points, 1100 experience points, and 10571 silver.]
Parents do not value their children at all.

#

I should have sold him to the kiramon for a some royal jelly

vale wigeon
#

You swing a somnis spiked mace at a bloated kiramon broodtender!
AS: +757 vs DS: +915 with AvD: +41 + d100 roll: +95 = -22
A clean miss.
That's some DS

cold ridge
vale wigeon
#

I just swing until somnis or dispel takes em down

smoky pendant
#

They are pretty weak to SMRv2 attacks and UCS.

# 
Your attack is hindered by holding a gold-banded ruic long bow!
You have excellent positioning against a bloated kiramon broodtender.
  UAF: 650 vs UDF: 652 = 0.996 * MM: 111 + d100: 82 = 192
  ... and hit for 61 points of damage!
  Awesome grapple pulls head from body!
[You have earned 100 prestige points.]
A bloated kiramon broodtender's legs kick savagely as she collapses, belching swarms of tiny, pale larvae.  They scatter wildly as she surrenders to death.
A bloated kiramon broodtender appears to recover some strength.
A bloated kiramon broodtender's movements no longer appear hampered as the lunar light encircling her fades away.
Roundtime: 4 sec.```
tall plaza
#

Yeah I use UCS against broodtenders.

unique warren
#

when all else fails, just punch the bug in the face

versed sluice
lilac granite
#

I picture the Solo Leveling ants

timid hearth
# 
   ... 20 points of damage!
   The kresh ravager's spine warps and protrudes through skin.
SMR SvD: +32 - Penalty: +20 + o100 roll: +226 == +238
Acidic ooze erupts from a corpulent kresh ravager's flesh like pus out of a rupturing boil, dousing you with corrosive goop!
Limned in radiance, a translucent pale golden shield springs into being between you and your attacker to temper the blow!
   ... 34 points of damage!
   Acid dissolves the head into a barely recognizable lump!```Well. Alright then.
vale wigeon
smoky pendant
unique warren
#

that is elite messaging ngl

smoky pendant
#

Have any rangers encountered an issue where the stalkers' Eviscerate doesn't get stopped by 605?

# 
[SMR result: 104 (Open d100: 44)]
Catching you unaware, it carves into you with cruel and ruthless savagery!
   ... 10 points of damage!
   Smooth slash to your hip!
   Nice crunching sound.
   ... 1 point of damage!
Blood sprays from your abdomen in a crimson arc!
   ... 1 point of damage!
[SSR result: 97 (Open d100: 43)]
Despite bearing witness to a sleek black kiramon  stalker's display of flagrant cruelty, Aharil maintains his composure.
The figure quickly disappears from view.```
# 

>incant 605
You make a simple motion, quietly invoking the Barkskin spell...
Your spell is ready.
You gesture.
A knobby layer of bark swiftly forms on you.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
(Forcing stance down to guarded)```
#

Barkskin was active, the SMR attack went through, I killed the stalker, Barkskin dropped, and I was able to reapply it. So it didn't get triggered because there was no CD.

unique warren
#

#stalkerhax

cold ridge
# 
Flesh sloughs unprompted from a disfigured hive thrall's arm, revealing bloody pinkish chitin underneath.```

The hell is this?!?
slim patio
#

Have you seen the movie Alien?
(honestly no clue)

cold ridge
#

Yeah we need more Hive lore

slim patio
#

also, it might be a skin, wiki search for Chitin shows they drop as Myrmidon skins

cold ridge
#

With halting, uneven steps, a disfigured hive thrall lurches in, clawing at her ruined features as if she is in incredible pain. As her hands fall away from her mutilated visage, the thrall's eyes fill with mad desperation.

smoky pendant
# cold ridge Yeah we need more Hive lore

Kiramon dominate and then experiment on races they enslave. Thralls are byproducts of their genetic experiments:
The thrall looks to have once been humanoid, but her form has been mutilated into a tortured, stooped shape with a mismatch of clashing parts. One eye is huge and insectoid, but the other remains painfully close to mammalian, its pupil bleeding into the bright green iris. Her jaw hangs slack, forced open at all times by a set of bristled mandibles that seem to have a mind of their own as they twitch and clench. Tumorous growths stud the thrall's spine, unsavory green where they are not blotchy violet-red with pustules. One has burst to reveal a single rudimentary wing that resembles a fly's.

cold ridge
#

So saaaaaaad!!!

cold ridge
slim patio
#

Yes, the Aelotoi

smoky pendant
#

When the kiramon went through the portal, they found themselves on Bre'Naere. The aelotoi, having never faced any threats in their history, were unprepared for war and were quickly enslaved by the kiramon. Over the next fifteen thousand years, they toiled under their overseers, harvesting the once-lush world's resources until it became a barren wasteland. Their physical bodies were modified by the kiramon that they might serve better as workers.

slim patio
#

The Kiramon enslaved their planet and genetically modified the Aelotoi.

smoky pendant
slim patio
#

It is always the elves fault

#

Despana, Kiramon, Ashrim, the Horses

#

and I know the Ashrim were the Faendryl, but it was before they turned "dark" in the desert

smoky pendant
#

I would just like to point out all of that happened after the elves left the forests and moved into towns. If they had just stayed tree-huggers like the Sylvans, none of that would have happened.

slim patio
#

They also had another chance at redemption before the separation of the houses when the Dhe'nar left. They were warned

cold ridge
smoky pendant
#

On Elanthia, as the power of the Elven Empire waned during the Age of Chaos, many hostile and cunning creatures that had once been kept in check arose to prey on the vulnerable peoples of Elanith. One of these was the insect-like kiramon. Possessing a hive-mind intelligence and a singular will to harvest natural resources to aid their own transcendence, they battled the Illistim elves for a thousand years until at last the Illistim expelled them through a portal to an unknown world.

#

That's why there are kiramon workers and defenders outside of Illistim's western gates.

slim patio
#

The age of Chaos, 50,000+ years ago

#

whoops wrong age. Chaos was 20k-5k ago

#

So that would be after Despana

vale wigeon
#

Just sayin, I could wipe out that kiramon nest by Ta'Illistim. Elves are sissys.

#

Handle your business and exterminate some bugs.

cold ridge
vale wigeon
#

Even kids can do it

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Human children mind you

slim patio
#

I do hope we get to invade Bre'Naere and rescue the Aelotoi at some point in the future

vale wigeon
# 
 ** Your fly swatter glows brightly for a moment, consuming the magical energies around the aelotoi bandit! **
 [SMR result: 271 (Open d100: 90, Bonus: 125)]
   ... 35 points of damage!
   The aelotoi bandit's head explodes like an overripe melon.
[You have earned 80 prestige points.]
An aelotoi bandit spasms, rolling over.  Its tiny legs kick at the air before going still.
Roundtime: 4 sec.
Roundtime changed to 1 second.```
versed sluice
#

I didn't know broodtenders could do their little summon help thing at any time, like undamaged.. literally my experience just now was ```stance off
att brood

The broodtender summons a hit squad!
your attack lands
u ded```

unique warren
#

this is the way

unique warren
#

❤️ plate

[SMR result: 247 (Open d100: 205, Bonus: 16)]
The tiny mandibles tear into your flesh!
A suit of dark somnis field plate partially deflects the onslaught of the puncture attack.
   ... 34 points of damage!
Trails of fiery scarlet race across your somnis field plate as rage ignites within you!
   Awesome shot shatters ribs and punctures lung!
   You are stunned for 5 rounds!```
lilac granite
#

I usually get the eye ninja larvae

unique warren
#

yeah I feel like they tend to go for the eyes...got lucky on that one.

candid crane
#

An abyran'ra is trapped in the Astral Tear. I'm not going to say how it got there.

cold ridge
#

Where?

candid crane
#

The Astral Tear is the room up the ramp near the southern end of the bottom level. It's harmless there, but it might give somebody a good scare.

unique warren
#

i've been running around with astral spark for the boltstones and 202 disarm traps for the mandible traps...does anyone run with 0 disarm? What is your chance to disarm the mandibles? I'd love to move the points from DT to something else if I could.

molten turtle
#

I have 0 disarm… have never tried to disarm mandibles. Just ;eherbs as needed. Works fine for me.

cold ridge
#

The mandible one is the one you have to just search, right?

serene iris
#

I have 0 disarm and 202 perception and a 70 bonus to search out the mandibles

serene iris
molten turtle
#

Not really, no.

fickle grotto
#

Zero disarm, 202 perception, and I search the mandible traps out without issue.

I actually dropped what disarm I did have once I got an astral spark. As disarming bolt stone traps was all I had it for.

serene iris
#

I actually didn't think disarm helped with the mandibles, I will have to get some and see

cold ridge
#

It seems perception based

unique warren
#

jeeze I must've kept it from before I had astral spark and just assumed it was the factor in mandibles...

#

noob move

timid hearth
#

I have 0 disarm but 202 perception on my Hive hunters and they search out mandible traps fine. I’d be surprised if disarm factors in to that one

molten turtle
#

I imagine survival factors, no?

#

It does: #1181447477564551188 message

cold ridge
#

Maxed in that too

serene iris
#

We should try to put together data to figure out the search mandibles formula haha

cold ridge
# 
Roundtime: 1 sec.

You come out of hiding.


d100: 84 + Base Chance: 90 + Bonuses: 0: 174.  Success!```

Not sure.  But my Survival is 202  and Perception is 315?
serene iris
#

Do you have any disarm?

cold ridge
#

Disarm is at 1.75

#

Correction. Perception is 303. Survival is 202, Disarm Traps is 175

I feel like that's a search and you're basically thwarting an ambush, which is in opposition to the shock trap

serene iris
#

Yeah, I think you might be right, but just want to cover all bases

smoky pendant
#

I just have my wizard disarm the bolt stone traps. 😄

cold ridge
#

Hey since when did creatures in the Hive web areas?

# 
The tunnel splits around a nigh-transparent crystalline column embedded with metallic red and gold rutile filaments.  Butter yellow gossamer clings to the northeast fork, partially occluding the passage from floor to ceiling along one side.  The northwest fork is clear of obstructions, though puddles of some sticky substance meander across the uneven stone.  Droplets of foul-smelling water trail away to the south.  You also see a huge sticky web, a corpulent kresh ravager and a disfigured hive thrall.
Obvious exits: northeast, south, northwest
Roundtime: 1 sec.
HR>
Your disk arrives, following you dutifully.
HR>s
Moving forward, you get too close to the rippling, sticky web!
You take a quick half step back.
[SMR result: 27 (Open d100: 22, Penalty: 3)]```
serene iris
#

The thralls can cast web, but they don’t do it very often. Probably somebody ran past it and it prepped. All mobs will open cast web if they prepped it and then you left

cold ridge
#

Good to know....and also concerning.

slim patio
#

feat escape works on webs, on the off chance you get snagged

cold ridge
#

Good to know. Thanks. Usually I spell thieve them.

drifting anchor
#

Hive is a little too post cap for me yet...hopefully work my way to hunting there someday

#

seems spicy though

smoky pendant
minor salmon
#

Blammo! Got me good hah

You weave another verse into your harmony.
  CS: +535 - TD: +434 + CvA: +25 + d100: +35 == +161
  Warding failed!
  A corpulent kresh ravager reels under the force of the sonic vibrations!
  Sound waves disrupt for 72 damage!
   ... 70 points of damage!
   The kresh ravager's midsection swells painfully then bursts, sending the kresh ravager everywhere.
With a thunderous crash, a corpulent kresh ravager falls to the ground, tiny legs kicking at the air before going still.
[SMR result: 229 (Open d100: 259, Penalty: 1)]
Acidic ooze erupts from a corpulent kresh ravager's flesh like pus out of a rupturing boil, dousing you with corrosive goop!
   ... 70 points of damage!
   Acid bath empties chest.  It's a lot cleaner now.
You feel less confident tha
It seems you have died, my friend.  Although you cannot do anything, you are keenly aware of what is going on around you...```
serene iris
#

I hate those guys lol

frigid canopy
#

Oof.

versed sluice
# 
You take a quick half step back.
[SMR result: 230 (Open d100: 181, Bonus: 4)]
The webbing falls around you in gooey, clinging ribbons as the strandweaver skitters around you, enmeshing you in a cocoon of sticky silk!
You become ensnared in thick strands of webbing!
!W>

!W>bers
Having recovered from your previous assault, you once again feel ready to perform the Thrash technique.
!W>
[SMR result: 178 (Open d100: 78, Bonus: 93)]
A chitinous kiramon myrmidon lunges at you with his open mandibles!
He clamps on to your , wrangling and thrashing with it in his powerful jaws!
   ... 1 point of damage!
Trails of fiery scarlet race across your body armor as the rage within surges anew!
   Loose wrist lock.
Roundtime: 10 sec.
!WR>
...wait 10 seconds.``` speaking of oof. and guess what happened 10 seconds from then? another 10 seconds.
#

good thing we get bonuses so I almost dont even mind the cheap deaths anymore

serene iris
# 
Acidic ooze erupts from a corpulent kresh ravager's flesh like pus out of a rupturing boil, dousing you with corrosive goop!
   ... 35 points of damage!
   Your arm is drenched in acid!  Flesh and bones are reduced to a smoking slime!
   You are stunned for 5 rounds!
The ravager is knocked to the ground!
Cast Roundtime 2 Seconds```

basically 90% of my deaths in the hive look like this
serene iris
#

what I have figured out about ravagers is that as long as they stay in defensive stance their acid blood is not very dangerous to me. once they stance up (or down) I have very limited means to kill them without serious risk -- I can 312 them to death but it takes forever. my bolt AS is so bad that even when they're in offensive I don't think I can really effectively bolt them. genuinely if the ravager got a turn I want to walk away more than anything. obviously a big part of this is my SMR defense isn't up to where it needs to be

#

if I had 300 ascension points I would probably just max out acid resistance lol

faint valley
serene iris
#

must be nice!

smoky pendant
#

Ranger trinkets help because the reactive acid counts as Nature damage.

#

A fully upgraded Ranger trinket provides 25% reduction and a 15% chance to just flat out avoid the damage.

#

I’m still curious if any other rangers have come across Stalker eviscerates not being prevented by / even triggering Barkskin.

timid hearth
#

I think the trinkets just need to ditch steam for acid straight up.

versed sluice
#

steam dervishes: Am I a joke to you

jovial sleet
serene iris
#

Only rangers have ever reported that they work on acid blood!

indigo nymph
#

Yeah, there's a known bug with the reactive damage when the source damage is nature-based.

serene iris
#

sorry rangers!

keen dagger
#

Sounds like an opportunity to expand sources of nature damage! Make it a feature

lilac granite
#

Wait, so ranger trinket nature resistance should help in covering creature acid splashes (once that bug is squashed)?

serene iris
#

I think Mestys is saying the bug is the other way. If you do nature damage to a ravager, and it bleeds on you, the blood is considered natural because the attack that triggered it is natural. Rangers are just the only PCs who regularly deal nature damage

#

So when that’s fixed rangers will also get melted by acid

lilac granite
#

ah ok.. guess I will just carry on with trying to up ascension resistacid in that case

unreal mason
#

was there anything else that prevented ravager acid? something different about weapon vs spell attacks?

icy coral
#

Yeah, AS/DS resolution isn't supposed to splash.

serene iris
#

AS/DS attacks don’t cause ravager blood splashes, but I can’t hit ravagers with my terrible bolt AS

#

When I go with a rogue they present zero difficulty haha

smoky pendant
smoky pendant
minor salmon
#

Note to self, do not weapon dizzy kresh ravagers hah

A ghostly kresh ravager is enraged by your attack!
You heft your ghezyte-scaled whip and, looping it once to build momentum, lash out in a strike at a ghostly kresh ravager's head!
[SMR result: 222 (Open d100: 101, Bonus: 25)]
The tip of your whip snaps against the side of the kresh ravager's head with a loud *CRACK* and sends it reeling!
   ... 48 points of damage!
A ghostly kresh ravager is confused!

 ** Your ghezyte-scaled whip bursts alight with leaping tongues of holy fire! **
   Consumed by the hallowed flames, a ghostly kresh ravager is ravaged for 55 points of damage!
   ... 15 points of damage!
   Quick strike rips left arm open!
   To your dismay it quickly closes on its own.
   The kresh ravager is stunned!
[SMR result: 215 (Open d100: 164, Bonus: 1)]
Acidic ooze erupts from a ghostly kresh ravager's flesh like pus out of a rupturing boil, dousing you with corrosive goop!
   ... 50 points of damage!
   Blast of acid washes your head off clean... and clean off!
Your senses are no longer as sharp.```
minor salmon
#

I bugged this a few days ago. Broodtenders can stand up and attack despite being actively lullabyed to sleep. Example:

You loose a ghastly, keening wail!
Your spellsong is ready.
You weave another verse into your harmony, directing the sound of your voice at a bloated kiramon broodtender.
The kiramon broodtender falls to the ground in a deep slumber.
Sing Roundtime 3 Seconds.
>look
[Crystalline Depths, Terrace - 34254] (u13041304)
You notice a bloated kiramon broodtender (sleeping).
Obvious exits: south, west
>
A bloated kiramon broodtender braces her weight with her spindly legs and rises to her full height, her belly dragging grotesquely on the ground.
>
Your mind is beset with the vision of a thread of energy snapping.
>look
[Crystalline Depths, Terrace - 34254] (u13041304)
You notice a bloated kiramon broodtender (sleeping).
Obvious exits: south, west
>
Several larvae squirming over the back of a bloated kiramon broodtender leap toward you, mandibles snapping.
[SMR result: 108 (Open d100: 68, Bonus: 7)]
The tiny mandibles tear into your flesh!
   ... 5 points of damage!
   Minor puncture to the back.
>
A bloated kiramon broodtender gurgles unsettlingly before vomiting a quivering sphere of resin into the air.  As it strikes the ground, the orb detonates violently, sending caustic amber goop spraying in all directions!
[SMR result: 117 (Open d100: 65, Bonus: 7)]
Stinging goop clings to you, burning on impact before hardening to hinder your movements!
   ... 10 points of damage!
   Acid reaches the chest causing a nasty rash!
Your movements slow to a crawl!
unique warren
#

dont tenders and strandweavers not sleep?

#

or just not affected by somnis sleep...

frigid canopy
#

Yeah, I don't think kiramon can be put to sleep.

minor salmon
#

All the other ones can be lullabyed, even if they are good at shaking it off.

The issue here is the system says its still in a sleeping status simultaneous to action though. So if it actually shook it off, wouldn't the sleep status change to prone and then standing?

frigid canopy
#

Yeah.

smoky pendant
#

Has anyone taken a look at stalkers’ Eviscerate piercing Barkskin?

serene iris
#

so I kind of hate to bring this up, but one of the consequences of the entire level outside hive being considered hive is that you can find child bounties just by wandering around that level, free of danger

#

in fact it's quite frequent for me that I will go2 to the barrier room, get ready to go into the hive, and then the kid pops out since I just ran through like 30 "hive" rooms

#

also, of course, this applies to all herb bounties, which you can just forage right outside the hive

tall plaza
#

The herb issue happens in other hunting grounds too. Don’t scuttle the ship!

timid hearth
#

Too late

serene iris
#

it's true, many herb bounties just let you forage in some spot that is totally safe, from low levels to cap

versed sluice
#

citadel foraging is done in the very nice lovely gardens outside the actual scary undead part

versed sluice
#

which honestly now that I think about it those are probably the wealthiest critters in the game lol

keen dagger
#

You also see a chitinous kiramon myrmidon that appears dead, a translucent kiramon strandweaver that appears dead, a disfigured hive thrall that appears dead, a ghostly hive thrall that appears dead, a chitinous kiramon myrmidon that appears dead, a chitinous kiramon myrmidon that appears dead, a chitinous kiramon myrmidon that appears dead, a chitinous kiramon myrmidon that appears dead, a translucent kiramon strandweaver that appears dead, a bloated kiramon broodtender that appears dead, a chitinous kiramon myrmidon that appears dead, a chitinous kiramon myrmidon that appears dead, a chitinous kiramon myrmidon that appears dead, a chitinous kiramon myrmidon that appears dead, a chitinous kiramon myrmidon that appears dead, a chitinous kiramon myrmidon that appears dead, a bloated kiramon broodtender, a bloated kiramon broodtender that appears dead, a translucent kiramon strandweaver that appears dead, a sleek black kiramon stalker that appears dead, a chitinous kiramon myrmidon that appears dead and a disfigured hive thrall that is lying down.
Spicy

versed sluice
#

Chitinsworn shall have his revenge, in this life or the next

weary quail
weary quail
#

I asked this in Mechanics, but what do you Hive Efficionados think?

What can I do to stun myself? My thought is this. Stun myself in the Hive to draw out all the stalkers, but when I'm in a safe stance and in a way that I won't fall over in offensive stance.

Then recover fast and kill them all.

fickle grotto
#

Demon rum? Self-stunning helm?

weary quail
#

How long do those stun you for? 1 round?

smoky pendant
#

I've thought about that, may be construed as mechanics abuse. And always risky with eviscerate potentially bleeding you out.

#

Plus then you get moments like this:

A translucent kiramon strandweaver struggles momentarily with the gale.
A sleek black kiramon stalker struggles momentarily with the gale.
A sleek black kiramon stalker struggles momentarily with the gale.
A sleek black kiramon stalker struggles momentarily with the gale.
A sleek black kiramon stalker struggles momentarily with the gale.
A sleek black kiramon stalker struggles momentarily with the gale.
A sleek black kiramon stalker struggles momentarily with the gale.
A chitinous kiramon myrmidon struggles momentarily with the gale.```
minor salmon
#

I got wrecked a good 3 times today by stalkers. 🔪blood

#

It usually makes me laugh because I'll be on some risky tear and then blammo, off with her head!

smoky pendant
#

The bottom floor of the Hive is really active now, just a word of warning. I wonder if Kaetel's group is active.

smoky pendant
#

So when you come across 6+ of them, it's no fun.

#

Still not as annoying as the ravager acid. 😄

keen dagger
weary quail
#

Yeah I got 3 of them (stalkers) ambushing me after a 260 open roll from a ravager. I feel like I’ve been open rolled all day. Ugh.

still dagger
smoky pendant
weary quail
# smoky pendant I've thought about that, may be construed as mechanics abuse. And always risky w...

I argue that this is NOT mechanics abuse though. I mean live bait is a valid hunting technique in the real world. What would be wrong with applying it to gemstone to periodically trick the bugs into exposing themselves?

Isn’t this the same theory as bait traps for roaches and ants and stuff? Lure them to something that seems delicious but will kill them. Seems like an actual hunting strategy for bugs.

atomic island
# weary quail I argue that this is NOT mechanics abuse though. I mean live bait is a valid hun...

I'm not sure this is even a good idea, given that the stun will tank your SMR defense and leave you open to eviscerates, but if they need an open roll to hit you even while stunned, then I would absolutely classify this as mechanics abuse.

The validity of real-world hunting techniques has nothing whatsoever to do with it and I'm not sure why that's relevant. When it comes to things that earn XP, GMs historically punish no/low risk, high reward schemes.

It may well not be considered as such by the GMs who enforce such things, of course. Not my call to make. But the real-world equivalent has little and less to do with the mechanics of a game.

unique warren
#

if you attempt it, please keep a record of how many times you ended up double eviscerated and coup'd...for science!

weary quail
#

Okay fine. I’ll probably just die anyway so I’ll leave the idea alone.

serene iris
#

I will say “put up 335 and then accidentally get stunned” is a super good cleric combat strategy

#

Except when it’s a super bad one

#

kind of could go either way

#

I don’t think I would expect it to be GMA to stun yourself in one of the hardest areas in the game. I think it’s probably going to be a self correcting problem

#

You could do it with a buddy

#

probably a cleric for preference

#

For a couple different reasons

#

Also the cleric could just stun you manually

atomic island
#

You and I have teamed up to fight stalkers, even, Tikba. With like... 50% success rate on being saved from the death post-stun, I think.

serene iris
#

50%, because there were two of us and I died

atomic island
#

I was going to say 50% because there was one close call and one... well, call.

smoky pendant
#

What you are proposing COULD be done safely with a ranger using Barkskin and death rum with someone there to unstun them as soon as the first stalker gets there. Provided: they fix the bug where stalker Eviscerate doesn't get stopped by Barkskin.

uncut tartan
#

Does anyone have the messaging for a trap if you pass the SMR roll? I see several examples in my quick searching of what it does when you fail the SMR roll. But looking for the success messaging that lets you continue on.

#

n/m, got it

unique warren
#

why does 535 not impact rock breaking RT?

#

seems in-line with other non-combat activities that are affected

minor salmon
#

1035 also does not impact rock breaking rt. afaik it was because staff doesn't want to increase the speed of loot generation/silvers access.

serene iris
#

Being in a major sanctuary should remove the roundtime from breaking rocks

timid hearth
#

Dwarves should have 3 second base RT for breaking rocks

atomic island
#

So much hate for the rock-breaking 😆

minor salmon
#

Giants should have one second base RT for breaking rocks!

unique warren
#

dwarves and elves breaking rocks in the same room should drop RT for both

serene iris
#

the gemshop should just buy rocks in bulk but charge you 3 rt per rock as one big roundtime

minor salmon
versed sluice
keen dagger
# 
  SMR SvD: +10 - Penalty: +3 + o100 roll: +224 == +231
Psionic energy crashes into you, hurling you off your feet!
   ... 70 points of damage!
   Your midsection swells painfully then bursts, splattering you all over.
#

Ow.

minor salmon
#

Breaching the gut-brain axis with that one

smoky pendant
#

These spectral broodtenders are a real pain.

keen dagger
#

It's not me!

unique warren
#

srsly I hunt the Hive to avoid NCU garbage

tall plaza
weary quail
#

Me: Why am I getting jumped my 4 stalkers at the first sign of a stun?

Oh... right:

P>find kaetel
Brave Adventurer Questing:
 
Kaetel

Keep on keeping on, brother. lol

keen dagger
#

I'm in HW!

#

That's just how stalkers do.

weary quail
#

Boo.

#

Normally I don't see that many. Maybe I need to go stalker tracking before I start hunting....

#

I'm still going to blame you. That alright?

keen dagger
#

I can take it!

weary quail
#

Cool! Thanks, mayne.

keen dagger
#

I will stop singing my songs of Stalker Swarms

faint valley
small crag
#

Stalker swarms
Stalker swarms
Sing my song of stalker swarms
All the stalker swarms
Always stalker swarms

(to the tune of "Song of Storms")

atomic island
#

On the quiet section between verses of the song, "Here comes the coup-de-grace, here comes the coup-de-grace..."

tough goblet
# 
[SSR result: 245 (Open d100: 155)]
The ravager's screech startles you!
   ... 30 points of damage!
   Skull and surrounding flesh disintegrate.  You fall to the ground dead.

It seems you have died, my friend.```

Someone wanna explain how this bull is even real?
tall plaza
#

Open rolls happen all the time! Though frankly that could’ve happened on a non-open roll - the margin was 90. How’s your discipline? Do you have any transcend destiny? It is an ascension area, after all.

timid hearth
#

Also SSR is just kind of a bad system that has a huge chance of landing on everybody. I'd rather see that moved onto MDR then you can at least train for it.

tall plaza
#

Disruption resist also helps there.

smoky pendant
unique warren
#

being a warrior mastered in warcries seems to help...not a valid choice for everyone tho lol

tough goblet
tall plaza
#

I honestly didn't think you did, but I assumed you must, because otherwise I think it's tough to be too upset about getting stomped in one of the most difficult hunting grounds. But you seemed upset to me!

timid hearth
#

Yeah I'm not sure when the idea of ascension grounds became "well I'm capped so I can hunt there" but I don't bring my characters into ascension until they're about 2x cap or so and have a very solid base of completed training

tough goblet
unique warren
#

35 years of nerding can result in crazy things

tough goblet
#

I haven't even been alive that long 🫠

unique warren
#

hold on to that while you can!

keen dagger
#

There are like a dozen of us under 40, maybe 😆

tough goblet
smoky pendant
smoky pendant
tough goblet
smoky pendant
#

Now if you’ll excuse me, I have to log my blood pressure and take my heart pills.

#

👴

atomic island
tough goblet
serene iris
candid crane
#

[SMR result: 212 (Open d100: 91, Bonus: 24)]
An animated disfigured hive thrall crushes a chitinous kiramon myrmidon mercilessly!
... 92 points of damage!
A chitinous kiramon myrmidon goes limp as the last of its energy is crushed from it by an animated disfigured hive thrall's unyielding bearhug!
A chitinous kiramon myrmidon promptly crumples to the ground as an animated disfigured hive thrall finally releases her grip on a chitinous kiramon myrmidon.
an animated disfigured hive thrall's feat of strength empowers her and her party!

(1) What does the last line about "empowers" mean?
(2) The first letter of the last quoted sentence should be capitalized.
(3) I'm going to start animating thralls more often!

unique warren
#

a complete bearhug grants "enhance str +10"

#

thats the empower part

keen dagger
# 
The ravager's screech startles you!
   ... 60 points of damage!
   Your stomach rips through your flesh and explodes.
Your heart hammers suddenly in your chest before failing entirely.  Even the influence of Troll's Blood is not enough to change the fact of your death.```
That ravager was determined.
frigid canopy
#

Awr.

unique warren
#

are the apparatuseseses able to be disarmed via spell?

serene iris
#

yes

unique warren
#

anyone have a log of discovery > successful disarm with a spell?

tall plaza
#

Discovery is just searching. Here's disarming:

You focus your spell in an attempt to disarm a glimmering boltstone apparatus.
d100: 84 + Base Chance: 38 + Bonuses: 0: 122.  Success!
After some mystical tinkering, you manage to extract a boltstone from the apparatus.  Deprived of its focus, the apparatus crackles ineffectually before crumbling into dust.
Cast Roundtime 2 Seconds.```
#

Here's searching if you really need it:>search d100: 54 + Base Chance: 80 + Bonuses: 0: 134. Success! You search around carefully and reveal a glimmering boltstone apparatus! Roundtime: 3 sec.

candid crane
#

A lot of spells will disarm. I cast 403, since it costs less mana. A cast of 404 in advance will give you a +10 bonus to disarming with the subsequent cast. Or at least it's +10 for me. And a cast of 402 will give you a +10 bonus to searching. So self cast 402 (which you should keep running anyway), search, self cast 404, then cast 403 at the apparatus.

#

I checked my logs and have a correction: 402 gives me a +10 bonus to searching. 404 gives me a +16 bonus to magically disarming.

weary quail
#

Does 609 work for searching for the mandibles that will chomp you?

keen dagger
#

I have not thoroughly tested, but it did not seem to

unique warren
# 
A chitinous kiramon myrmidon slams its head into a disfigured hive thrall!
A disfigured hive thrall's clothing scraps absorbs part of the blow!
   ... 15 points of damage!
   Crushing blow crumples the hive thrall's nose!
   The hive thrall is stunned!
A disfigured hive thrall is utterly unfazed!```

interesting...thrall's scraps have...impact? resistance ![sus](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/790374644343111680.webp?size=128 "sus")
jovial sleet
#

no i think that's just a headbutt thing

unique warren
#

ah gotcha

jovial sleet
#

headbutt is very weird and has some kinda, afaik, unique system for calculating some kind of damage mitigation/bonus based on the hardiness (like, lol the old str/durability values for breakage) of the headpieces involved from attacker and defender

unique warren
#

sympathy is super fun in the hive btw

weary quail
unique warren
#

Myrms rooting other critters, I don’t want to attack the Ravagers to avoid acid so I just have them scream at the other bugs

#

I think it’s a spell that overall doesn’t get the love it deserves

unique warren
#

Do UAC attacks trigger ravager acid?

weary quail
#

Does sign of staunching prevent the bleeding out from eviscerate? I'll test it later.

fickle grotto
#

Nope

#

You still leak the evisceration blood, just no per round blood loss

jovial sleet
#

it reduces it

#

it doesn't stop it

#

25% reduction

weary quail
#

So I should just keep sign of staunching up while I hunt the hive then, eh?

#

any reduction is helpful

jovial sleet
#

i mean you should keep sign of stuanching up all the time always no matter what

#

it's like 2 mana lasts like 25 minutes, stops you from bleeding if you start getting hit, etc.

weary quail
#

When you say it like that... I start to feel pretty silly 😉

jovial sleet
#

hell do clotting too! why not. theorhetically extra dispel protection? 😄 (i don't do clotting)

weary quail
#

I don't understand how stacking clotting prevents dispel?

#

oh

#

duh

#

Its just a spell that can be dispelled.

#

got it.

#

duh

#

you can't use sign of darkness while stunned/RT/etc, right?

jovial sleet
#

nope

smoky pendant
#

Just get a Survivalist’s Kit and macro/hotkey drinking pothinar.

weary quail
#

Can’t do that in a 4 round ravager stun.

#

Or the RT from them. Usually it’s the RT lock with a short stun that brings multiple stalkers.

If I survive that initial part I can clear the room and heal up

smoky pendant
unique warren
#

this made me smile today:

A sleek black kiramon stalker grabs the kiramon stalker by the head and twists violently!  You can hear neck bones snap with a loud *CRACK* as the rest of its body goes limp!
[You have earned 90 prestige points.]```
weary quail
#

Wow... I've never lost both in one hit before!

>ambush
You leap from hiding to attack!
A chitinous kiramon myrmidon moves with inhuman speed, interposing itself between you and the hive thrall!
You swing your ghezyte handaxe at a chitinous kiramon myrmidon.  The weapon rebounds off of the hardened chitin of the myrmidon's exoskeleton and is wrenched from your hand.  It slides along the ground and disappears into the shadows!
[Use the RECOVER ITEM command while in the appropriate room to regain your item.]
A chitinous kiramon myrmidon moves with inhuman speed, interposing itself between you and the hive thrall!
You swing your dark mithril handaxe at a chitinous kiramon myrmidon.  The weapon rebounds off of the hardened chitin of the myrmidon's exoskeleton and is wrenched from your hand.  It slides along the ground and disappears into the shadows!
[Use the RECOVER ITEM command while in the appropriate room to regain your item.]
Roundtime: 3 sec.
smoky pendant
#

I always forget that mechanic exists…

keen dagger
# 
  SMR SvD: +11 - Penalty: +3 + o100 roll: +261 == +269
The tendrils embrace you ungently, heedless of your squirming.  They draw you toward the broodtender, which extends her proboscis as tiny, pale-bodied kiramon larvae begin swarming over the tip.  The broodtender lunges forward to spear your abdomen, injecting her squirming young into your chest cavity!
   ... 60 points of damage!
   Perfect strike to abdomen.  You scream in anguish and drop quite dead!```
Well fine then, I guess I'll just die
#

(gross)

tall plaza
#

This was mine:```

s
[Crystalline Depths, Terrace - 34260] (u13041313)
The construction of the terrace is clearly not of humanoid design, eschewing conveniences like steps and siding and favoring organic shapes with odd elongations. Looking as if it is grown rather than shaped, the stone has wide pores and a faintly translucent patches that are reminiscent of rosin. At the terrace's northwestern extreme, it stretches into a languid bridge spanning to another platform constructed above the lowest reaches of the cavern. You also see a disfigured hive thrall, a translucent kiramon strandweaver and a bloated kiramon broodtender.
Obvious exits: north, east, southwest

A bloated kiramon broodtender gurgles unsettlingly before vomiting a quivering sphere of resin into the air. As it strikes the ground, the orb detonates violently, sending caustic amber goop spraying in all directions!
SMR SvD: +31 - Penalty: +3 + o100 roll: +188 == +216
Stinging goop clings to you, burning on impact before hardening to hinder your movements!
A shirt of interlinked zelnorn mail partially deflects the onslaught of the corrosive attack.
... 35 points of damage!
Burn exposes the spine (from the front)!
The subdued warmth embracing you fades along with the spiritual force surrounding your arms.
You suddenly feel less protected.

Right after entering the room, bam. BUT NOW I'M STRONGER THAN EVER.
minor salmon
#

For EG costume contest yesterday, my character dressed up as a bloated kiramon broodtender and performed a grotesque skit with a parasite weapon tentacles bursting forth, while bashing chunks of rock around the room (rocks being a nightmare in themselves). It occurred to me that few players have ever even seen one of these critters to frame the reference, but it was super awesome nonetheless and I was pretty proud of my attempt to build a costume for it. So, here is the costume.

Due to the stinkbird mask she wears, it is difficult to determine her race...or even whether she is living or dead.
She is monstrous of form.  Her features are hidden beneath a red-crested stinkbird mask overlaid in a stalk-patterned black ora filigree, though her deep-set, piercing hazel green eyes shine through.  She has thick locks of long, glossy black hair swept clean back beneath a lace mantilla ensnared in glaesine eyes.  Little else about her appearance is easy to distinguish.
She has a deep black cuff of finely polished glaes in the middle of her nose, a deep black ring of finely polished glaes in her lip, a faint scar on her neck, and some cross-like blackwork extending from the neck downward past her collarbone.
She is in good shape.
She is wearing a knotted widowwood gorget caging a mirrored pebble of dark hematite, a smooth balsawood idol adorned with a thin broodtender tendril, a structured moire silk gown formed by tumbling bruise-hued tendrils, a shapely girdle of banded onyx silk, a deep black bracelet of finely polished glaes, a bandage-wrapped wooden splint scored with a pattern of branching veins, and a pair of elevated ashen leather boots set on grooved obsidian heels.```
tall plaza
#

That's awesome!

versed sluice
#

go hunt in costume, they'll be confused

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timid hearth
# 
Your spell is ready.
You gesture at a chitinous kiramon myrmidon.
Your fireleaf staff glows intensely with a verdant light!
You focus a lambent beam of divine energy at a chitinous kiramon myrmidon!
  AS: +649 vs DS: +236 with AvD: +34 + d100 roll: +98 = +545
   ... and hit for 160 points of damage!
   A raw, red hole is drilled in the kiramon myrmidon's chest by a powerful bolt!
   The kiramon myrmidon is stunned!
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.

Abruptly, you sense the attention of your spirit slayer focus upon a chitinous kiramon myrmidon.  The pattern of your spell is wrested away from you as the mote of white light flares with blinding brilliance.

Your spirit slayer focuses a lambent beam of divine energy at a chitinous kiramon myrmidon!
  AS: +694 vs DS: +217 with AvD: +34 + d100 roll: +49 = +560
   ... and hit for 26 points of damage!
   Blistering strike to leg shrivels skin and causes excruciating pain.
The myrmidon's durable carapace blocks most of the damage!```I want that kiramon tested for performance enhancing drugs!
minor salmon
#

I do 1 point of damage on those quite frequently. 👀

faint valley
#

The best is when you do 1 damage and get a crit kill

weary quail
#

My gosh I hate this mechanic... Lost both at once... agian...

[lhunter]>waylay
You step out of hiding to waylay a disfigured hive thrall!
A grizzled kiramon myrmidon moves with inhuman speed, interposing itself between you and the hive thrall!
You swing your dark rusalkoren handaxe at a grizzled kiramon myrmidon.  The weapon rebounds off of the hardened chitin of the myrmidon's exoskeleton and is wrenched from your hand.  It slides along the ground and disappears into the shadows!
[Use the RECOVER ITEM command while in the appropriate room to regain your item.]
A grizzled kiramon myrmidon moves with inhuman speed, interposing itself between you and the hive thrall!
You swing your gheztye raiding axe at a grizzled kiramon myrmidon.  The weapon rebounds off of the hardened chitin of the myrmidon's exoskeleton and is wrenched from your hand.  It slides along the ground and disappears into the shadows!
[Use the RECOVER ITEM command while in the appropriate room to regain your item.]
weary quail
#

Oh my gosh... That's three times tonight I've lost my weapons..

minor salmon
#

Please clean up your spectral hive critters!

#

(generic you, idk who was leaving them around)

tall plaza
#

It's almost always me! But I don't think it was this morning - there are lots of people with rings immediately after EG. The stalkers in particular are tough to track down.

#

What's life without a little ghosty challenge?

minor salmon
#

It was a chance to live another day by the person who spawned it!

ripe saddle
faint valley
# 
Hindered by the churning terrain, you are helpless as the concealed assailant's mandibles snap at you from the safety of its pit trap!
   ... 35 points of damage!
   Blow shatters knee and severs lower leg!
You fall screaming to the ground grasping your mangled left leg!
   You are stunned for 5 rounds!```
ouch
tall plaza
# 
>INFUSE SPIRIT
>INFUSE SPIRIT
>INFUSE SPIRIT
>INFUSE SPIRIT```
timid hearth
#

gem activate forceofwill

main cargo
#

...wait 15 seconds.

timid hearth
#

Not in that clip!

fickle marsh
#

So - I don't really understand the traps in here. I seem to see them all the time but...they don't do anything? Are they supposed to trigger upon walking into a room...leaving the room? Staying in there and fighting?

lilac granite
frigid canopy
fickle marsh
fickle marsh
#

Ok - so I unhid in a room with a trap and went to move out of the room and it did go off. So I guess it is the sneaking.

fickle marsh
#

Are Thralls able to drop gemstones? I feel like sometimes they give ltp and other times not

timid hearth
#

LTP = LTE? You only gain LTE from Ascension mob kills when you're not at 100% of field exp, and up to a total of 1,000 LTE per day

fickle marsh
#

oops - sorry LTE

#

oh...are you sure? I thought you got LTE whenever you killed an ascension mob - regardless if you were at 0% field exp or 100%

#

Yeah - I was definitely NOT at 100% field exp when I killed and searched a ravager and got 2 LTE. Although maybe searching it got me to 100% and then the LTE.

jovial sleet
#

it's like a percent of how much exp you actually get as field exp, which maybe a floor of 1. but if you're 100% full you get 0

fickle marsh
#

ugh - sorry, Nidal. You said when you're NOT at 100% field exp. Gotcha. That would make more sense.

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So Thralls are ascension critters and are eligible to give gemstones.

#

I thought perhaps they were like...idk. random slaves of the Hive creatures

jovial sleet
#

i mean, they are. but also still the first thing.

fickle marsh
#

I am enjoying hunting via a scarf and garrote in the Hive.

timid hearth
# 
SMR SvD: +57 + Bonus: +39 + o100 roll: +92 == +188
An eruption of shattered rock and dirt hurtles you skyward as a corpulent kresh ravager explodes from its burrow!
   ... 7 points of damage!
   Flattened your right hand.
   ... 2 points of damage!
   Your wrist is twisted slightly.
   ... 1 point of damage!
   Chest hit causes you to spin around like a halfling after a fresh tart.
   ... 7 points of damage!
   Nice puncture to the abdomen, just missed vital organs!
Roundtime: 13 sec.
Roundtime changed to 10 seconds.
The ground beneath your feet rumbles precipitously.
SMR SvD: +51 + Bonus: +42 + o100 roll: +15 == +108
An eruption of shattered rock and dirt hurtles you skyward as a corpulent kresh ravager explodes from its burrow!
   ... 2 points of damage!
   Your wrist is twisted slightly.
   ... 2 points of damage!
   You hear a buzzing in your ears from that blow!```New spawn mechanics has this happening a lot more often, lol. I lived tho
fickle marsh
#

the double eruption damage?

timid hearth
#

It was two ravagers burrow-spawning me at once

fickle marsh
#

Ugh I don't know how you guys can tell anything apart without TargetID

faint valley
#

Isn't there a gemstone for that? gotta move rocks somehow

timid hearth
#

It's my bard he only has one gemstone slot and it's for astral spark!

faint valley
#

Stop RPing while you hunt and get that 2nd slot already

fickle grotto
timid hearth
# 
You nock a golden olive faewood arrow fletched with light brown feathers in your brown sephwir longbow.
A corpulent kresh ravager is awakened by your attack!
You take aim and fire a golden olive faewood arrow at a corpulent kresh ravager!

 ** Your brown sephwir longbow glows brightly for a moment, consuming the magical energies around the kresh ravager! **
SMR SvD: +52 + Bonus: +30 + o100 roll: +95 == +177
   ... 20 points of damage!
   Rib bones snap and protrude from the kresh ravager's chest.
   The kresh ravager is stunned!
SMR SvD: +53 - Penalty: +2 + o100 roll: +177 == +228
Acidic ooze erupts from a corpulent kresh ravager's flesh like pus out of a rupturing boil, dousing you with corrosive goop!
   ... 47 points of damage!
   Acid Flush!  Your brains get washed right out your mouth!```I don't much care for deaths like this, lol
unique warren
#

when flarestone strikes back!

frigid canopy
#

Ruh roh.

jovial sleet
#

it is kinda funny your end result was their roll

timid hearth
#

Lol oh my god it was

fickle marsh
#

Either I was having some good luck the last few days or traps are working again now!

# 
You notice a flickering glint in the shadows.
Roundtime: 1 sec.
HR>e
As you move past a concealed trap, light builds within its depths before a scintillating bolt of electricity streaks toward you!
The electricity courses through you in a raging torrent, its power singing in your veins!  Spent, the boltstone apparatus shatters into glinting fragments.```
unique warren
#

#astralsparklyfe

fickle marsh
#

heh

fickle marsh
#

Damn. This place be poor.

jovial sleet
unique warren
#

are you getting outstanding skins? if you arent a skinmaster it can be quite underwhelming

#

but yes, Hive is super poor...people should stay way

jovial sleet
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i mean no right, he's right. hive is very poor. everyone should leave.

#

yeah what fausto said. no loot here.

timid hearth
#

If you can skin, the Hive is papered up. If you can't skin, yeah, underwhelming.

fickle marsh
#

Ahh...yeah. only 101 survival/FA so my skinning be atrocious

fickle marsh
#

All I ever hear about is how hard these broodtenders are...psh

# 
[SMR result: 210 (Open d100: 29, Bonus: 129)]
Your size considerably hinders your attack!
   ... 55 points of damage!
You release the garrote and let your victim's corpse fall to the ground.
A bloated kiramon broodtender's (BMP) legs kick savagely as she collapses, belching swarms of tiny, pale larvae.  They scatter wildly as she surrenders to death.```
#

can't even stand up to a wee bit 'o cloth

smoky pendant
fickle marsh
#

Interesting - you can apparently do this!

# 
[Kresh Warrens, Breached Hollow - 34171] (u13041101)
Broad and vaguely ovoid, an unnatural hollow opens within the mottled stone to form a chamber.  Spiraling furrows, deep and sharp-edged, adorn the curved walls and unevenly sloping floor, though the topmost curve of the ceiling appears relatively smooth by comparison.  Tunnel mouths gape at irregularly spaced intervals, their recesses cast in shadow by the pulsing emanations of an amber-hued barrier stretched taut like a membrane of light across a ragged crevice in the chamber's wall.  You also see a disfigured hive thrall (388) and a chitinous kiramon myrmidon (RBZ).
Obvious exits: north, east, southeast, southwest
Roundtime: 1 sec.
HR>target next
You are now targeting a disfigured hive thrall (388).
HR>sneak
Silently, you inhale and prepare your diversion.
[SMR result: 182 (Open d100: 37, Bonus: 14)]
You throw your voice behind a disfigured hive thrall (388) and the thrall's (388) attention is diverted by the noise!
A disfigured hive thrall (388) just went through a glowing amber energy barrier.
You attempt to move silently through a glowing amber energy barrier.
[Czeroth Subterrane, Tunnels - 34170] (u13041026)
Pulsing with a steady, resonant hum, a glowing amber barrier of energy spans a wide crevice at the end of the tunnel.  Though not quite as bright as daylight, the radiance casts back the heavy darkness of the subterranean path and colludes with the towering stalagmites to cast long shadows over the rugged cave floor.  Airy sigils with wild flourishes are etched into the rock walls around the barrier, holding wells of faint light that throb in time with its rhythm.  You also see a disfigured hive thrall (388).
Obvious exits: north, northeast, east
Roundtime: 2 sec.
#

Reminds me of when people would drag world bosses to starting towns in WoW.

smoky pendant
#

Now you just need to lead an undead broodtender into town.

fickle marsh
#

Nevermind.

You lob a dimly luminescent boltstone into the air.  It lands nearby and shatters, sending a coruscating web of electricity rippling outward from the point of impact!
You fail to find a target.```
smoky pendant
#

But yes, the boltstones do big lightning SMRv2 damage to the bugs, It's fun if you have a way to mass root/incapacitate them.

smoky pendant
# fickle marsh All I ever hear about is how hard these broodtenders are...psh

Nah, their heads pop right off.You have excellent positioning against a bloated kiramon broodtender. UAF: 664 vs UDF: 601 = 1.104 * MM: 116 + d100: 38 = 166 ... and hit for 55 points of damage! Awesome grapple pulls head from body! [You have earned 100 prestige points.] A bloated kiramon broodtender's legs kick savagely as she collapses, belching swarms of tiny, pale larvae. They scatter wildly as she surrenders to death. A bloated kiramon broodtender appears to recover some strength. A bloated kiramon broodtender's movements no longer appear hampered as the lunar light encircling her fades away. Roundtime: 4 sec.

fickle marsh
#

Do we know what causes that royal jelly to spawn?

fickle grotto
#

Yep.

Bugs drop it. Pretty cool messaging when it drops too.

#

#1181447477564551188 message

fickle marsh
#

Sorry I meant like if players could do anything to hasten the bugs along. Like with wind wraiths and heroism potions. Or if it is just on a completely independent timer.

tall plaza
#

I've certainly never noticed any behavior that leads to an increase in jelly spawn rates.

unique warren
#

delicious jelly

fickle marsh
#

Is this from a critter or an environmental effect?

[SSR result: 55 (Open d100: 10)]
You steel yourself, holding firm against the force of the ethereal assault!```
timid hearth
#

Environmental

ripe saddle
#

ahem... it's enviro-Mental --- psychic energy!

#

see what I did there?

fickle marsh
#

OMG

#

I almost got my first getting COUPed!

Amidst canny maneuvering, you anticipate a sleek black kiramon stalker's (A5J) incoming attack and nimbly step to the side, leaving a disfigured hive thrall (FJK) to bear the unexpected brunt!
A sleek black kiramon stalker (A5J) lunges towards the hive thrall (FJK), most likely intending to finish him off!
[SMR result: 239 (Open d100: 76, Bonus: 38)]
A sleek black kiramon stalker (A5J) grabs the hive thrall (FJK) by the head and twists violently!  You can hear neck bones snap with a loud *CRACK* as the rest of his body goes limp!
Acid belches from a disfigured hive thrall's (FJK) mouth, raising blisters on his face as he gasps for breath.  Then he ceases to breathe, and a look of blessed peace dawns over his twisted features as he gives in to death.
The guiding force leaves a disfigured hive thrall (FJK).
The barrier of force around a disfigured hive thrall (FJK) dissipates.
A silver light faintly flickers around a disfigured hive thrall (FJK), then fades.
The tension in a disfigured hive thrall's (FJK) skin eases and you notice that his complexion returns to normal.
Lemkius looks a little bit more wary after that display!```
#

Luckily I had just popped sidestep!

still dagger
#

Such a cool thematic maneuver

weary quail
# 
[SMR result: 108 (Open d100: -55, Bonus: 101)]
The twisted branches lash out at a corpulent kresh ravager, wrap themselves around its body and entangle it on the floor.
   ... 20 points of damage!
   Hard shove to the chest staggers the kresh ravager.
[SMR result: 305 (Open d100: 383, Penalty: 1)]
Acidic ooze erupts from a corpulent kresh ravager's flesh like pus out of a rupturing boil, dousing you with corrosive goop!
The protective web surrounding you deflects some of the natural damage!
   ... 48 points of damage!
   Acid bolt removes the neck giving the head no place to go but down!
//// Mores stuff here.

It seems you have died, my friend.  Although you cannot do anything, you are keenly aware of what is going on around you...

You realize that you have no outstanding favors which Lorminstra owes you, and without having accomplished a deed for Her, your soul is in danger of vanishing from the land forever!

...departing in 10 mins...

Seriously aren't the odds of that happening (my failed open roll then then 300+ open roll) .000625%?

unique warren
#

so ran into a bunch of these guys today...

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Possessed of a small, glossy black head with a long proboscis, the Luukosian lanternbearer would be comical in shape were it not so grotesque. Most of its abdomen is bloated, gelatinous, and yielding. Riotous colors ooze across flesh like the surface hues of an oil slick. Eight glinting black eyes stare from her undersized head, nestled amidst a thicket of coarse hairs. Wrapped around the monstrosity's abdomen are a number of gooey sensory tendrils.

#

luukosian lanternbearers?

#

cant say i've seen them before in all my time hunting the Hive

#

oh nevermind...they spawn from the ocarinas or whatever...clean up your messes people!

minor salmon
#

That's the same description as broodtenders btw

unique warren
#

lol

smoky pendant
#

The Hive is really active this morning.

#

You also see a chitinous kiramon myrmidon, a chitinous kiramon myrmidon, a mottled kiramon poison gland, a chitinous kiramon myrmidon, a chitinous kiramon myrmidon, a chitinous kiramon myrmidon, a sleek black kiramon stalker that is lying down, a porous chunk of rock, a chitinous kiramon myrmidon that appears rather calm, a porous chunk of rock, a chitinous kiramon myrmidon that appears rather calm, a translucent kiramon strandweaver that appears stunned, a chitinous kiramon myrmidon that appears stunned, a chitinous kiramon myrmidon that appears stunned and a chitinous kiramon myrmidon that appears rather calm.

timid hearth
#

Oh baby.

timid hearth
tall plaza
#

Is there some alternative?

timid hearth
#

Sometimes people are fancy and use the Chronomage or FWI transport

versed sluice
#

late to the party but yeah UCS is the great equalizer, it can cut through broodtenders and their 800 whatever DS

#

and now you know, my sweet summer child @fickle marsh , or will soon, the joy of hitting a broodtender with a jab for 101 and skullcrushing his head off

minor salmon
#

I haven't filed a report in game because the area was too dangerous, but want to share-
When using 1120 on a strandweaver with other kiramon: the strandweaver would injure the other mob and then heal, and reinjure the sympathetic mob and heal in a loop. At least, that looks like what's happening? idk.

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(talk about a conflict of emotions, yeesh!)

#

Also, here are a few typos which probably only appear with 1120'd critters:
As tries to hide, G manages to trip on a length of a translucent kiramon strandweaver's webbing.

As attempts to hide, a sleek black kiramon stalker glides past I in a single fluid motion, interposing between I and the safety of the shadows.

A translucent kiramon strandweaver twitches her antennae as she focuses upon a sleek black kiramon stalker! concentrates intently on a sleek black kiramon stalker. A pulse of pearlescent energy ripples toward it but dissipates harmlessly.

frigid canopy
#

Hrm.

fickle marsh
#

Hey - so is it known that boltstone trap still can damage me if I fail to disarm it with the Astral Spark Gemstone on??

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Also - how come I don't ever get bounties for Strandweavers or the Broodtenders? Does that only happen if you get TD?

timid hearth
timid hearth
fickle marsh
#

I can't seem to get theboltstone to do anything?

#

I just hold it and...throw?

timid hearth
#

TOSS it

#

Stance matters

fickle marsh
#

Toss...Ahh ok

tall plaza
#

You have been awarded 100 Experience and 1,000 Fame by Auchand for: "Spotting issues with kiramon web wrap and disappearing weapons."
OMG IT'S FINALLY HAPPENING.

Does this mean I can get rid of my disintegrate imbed?

uncut tartan
#

What was the last issue?

tall plaza
#

If a weapon generated by an unlimited hurling bandolier got webbed to your hand, there were issues trying to PRY it free if you waited too long.

frigid canopy
#

I went on a bug-clearing spree last night.

minor salmon
#

Also closwd the gap that allowed the royal jelly capsules to travel!

timid hearth
#

What do you mean by that? You cant' hypothetically eat jelly, hit Moonsedge, pick up Sword Hymn and be the most powerful person in Elanthia anymore?

#

The spawn adjustments has made the Hive more dangerous in that I get waaaaaaaaaay more ravager burrow-spawns than ever before. That one regional property on the come-up.

smoky pendant
timid hearth
#

I only hunt the first level if I get a ravager bounty (or on my alts who can't hang with broodtenders)

minor salmon
minor salmon
fickle marsh
#

Interesting - the ravager burrow doesn't bother my rogue - but that darn screech it can do right after is the worst. Luckily I can VANISH in RT from the burrow and it won't screech.

#

Stalkers still - those are my bane.

smoky pendant
#

Was there a change to the boltstone apparatuses recently?

#

This was from 11/30:```You gesture at a glimmering boltstone apparatus.
You focus your spell in an attempt to disarm a glimmering boltstone apparatus.

d100: 90 + Base Chance: 89 + Bonuses: 10: 189. Success!

After some mystical tinkering, you manage to extract a boltstone from the apparatus. Deprived of its focus, the apparatus crackles ineffectually before crumbling into dust.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.```

#

And this was just now:```You gesture at a glimmering boltstone apparatus.
You focus your spell in an attempt to disarm a glimmering boltstone apparatus.

d100: 15 + Base Chance: 73 + Bonuses: 0: 88. Failure!

You mentally struggle with the apparatus's primitive mechanisms, and light builds in its depths before discharging with a scintillating spark!
Your bark amulet pulses briefly, deflecting some of the electrical damage!
... 5 points of damage!
Mild electric jolt jolts your whole body. Talk about a nervous twitch.
You are stunned for 1 round!
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.```

#

Nothing changed with my wizard (that I'm aware of, anyway) but his base chance went down 16 points.

#

Confirmed INFO stats and SKILL skills are identical from November to December, so no enhancives or anything wore off. Both attempts were with 402 and 404 active.

fickle marsh
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Weird - I've never seen any bonuses on my rogue when disarming.

#

Is that with 0 training in disarm as wel?

tall plaza
#

As far as I know, we don't have any information on what influences the base chance, other than level not being a factor (if I recall correctly).

smoky pendant
#

I was just wondering if anyone else noticed a change. Nothing has changed on my wizard, other than he's gained a few more ranks of EL:Fire.

fickle marsh
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I have 35 ranks in disarm and my base chance is a tiny bit higher than yours (with no bonuses). just something I noticed. But no sorry I haven't noticed anything change between a few days ago and today

candid crane
#

I have 101 ranks of disarm, and my base chance with magic is just 55. My bonus is 16, which comes from spell 404.

fickle marsh
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Weird. I wonder if rogues have an inherent benefit then.

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Cause nothing shows up in my bonus but my base chance was 80 I think

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And as I said I only have 35 ranks of disarm.

mortal iron
#

Just curious in the hive is there environmental things that make it that you can only hunt there for so long? Like the dread in ME and sleet in HW?

timid hearth
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Nope (well, encumbrance from picking up rocks, otherwise, no)

mortal iron
#

Is it very difficult to get to/from? Been in HW for a while and may want to try a change of scenery.

timid hearth
#

Easy to get into and out of, you just walk in from Zul

candid crane
smoky pendant
jovial sleet
fickle marsh
#

I will say though - I kinda wish more things cast spells in the Hive!

smoky pendant
#

That’s one of the reasons I enjoy the Hive. It’s primarily physical.

fickle marsh
#

Getting couped is not my favorite.

smoky pendant
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Well stop getting couped.

fickle marsh
mortal iron
fickle marsh
#

My ghost did but couldn't actually make contact with the card...

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I will say - I had Feat Sidestep activated when a stalker tried to coup me and ended up couping one of his friends...that was fun

candid crane
smoky pendant
frigid canopy
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You caught me. This is a small stealth nerf because I added in some additional bonuses--but it was also making 407 closer in contribution to Disarm Traps.

#

Don't hate the Auchand!

still dagger
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All these new artisan systems don't come for free, GMs giveth and GMs taketh.....

smoky pendant
#

So if I understand this correctly: my wizard training in Disarm Traps won't boost his ability to disarm the apparatuses?

frigid canopy
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It will if you use DISARM.

smoky pendant
# 
[SMR result: 275 (Open d100: 238)]
The tiny mandibles tear into Aharil's flesh!
   ... 60 points of damage!
   Incredible strike pierces heart and runs Aharil clean through!

 * Aharil drops dead at your feet!```
#

Heck of a roll.

lilac granite
high robin
smoky pendant
#

With no changes, it was a net loss of -16.

fickle marsh
#

So I went from 35 ranks of disarm to 0 today and my chance to disarm traps didn’t change. So I wonder if maybe it is just the type of trap I’m trying is based on another skill.

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Base chance is still at 80

candid crane
fickle marsh
unique warren
#

the jaws traps work off of perception to see them vs. disarm skill like the apparatuseseses

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at least thats my understanding

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you dont "disarm" the jaws you just "spot" them before they nom you

fickle marsh
#

oh - not everyone even sees the trap?

unique warren
#

like if you drop your perception you will see a drop in your % to spot the jaws

fickle marsh
#

ohh...at 303 ranks of perception I guess I'm surprised my base chance is only 80

unique warren
#

yeah...gotta keep some danger in the game!

high robin
#

I really wish breaking rock worked with Celerity and song of tonis again

unique warren
#

why it doesnt even work with 535 is ridiculous as well

timid hearth
#

You're not having fun if you're not in RT, that's the rules

minor salmon
#

That emoji represents my tears frozen in time due to RT

unique warren
#

wheres my ASC "rock breaker" skill

timid hearth
#

Dwarves should have 3s RT for it

unique warren
#

and get xp from breaking them

timid hearth
#

Now you're talkin

unique warren
#

screw hunting, be a pro rock breaker

weary quail
#

Making an alt called “Stonysmash” just to come to Zul and break my rocks for me so I can get back out there.

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I’ll charge a fee to smash other peoples rocks for them. 25 silver per rock.

#

You get the whole bag back when I’m done.

#

We’ll call it the “Zul Rocksmith Pool”

unique warren
#

lol "rocksmith pool" love it

keen dagger
#

We already put plinite in the locksmith pool, seems like we could just leverage that

#

Anyone could ask the worker for jobs and he could offer rocks to break

smoky pendant
weary quail
#

Its ALIVE!!!!
Name: Rocksmith

compact lake
#

Looking to try out the Hive this week for my capped Rogue
TWC, Ambusher, Personal Spells 420/120 plus a few others and 506

Curious on any attack sequences to start with. Any trouble critters to watch for

Thanks all

unique warren
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you should do ok, standard subdue/eviscerate for cc > ambush eye/head works nicely

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dont let your HP drop below 60% or the stalkers will coup you

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tenders have super high DS, may want to garrote or bleed if trained for it

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any non-AS/DS resolution attack (flares) has a chance to trigger the ravager acid blood which will ruin your day

#

tender's larva aura will probably kill you once or twice despite your best efforts

#

never forget:

fickle marsh
unique warren
#

oh and acquire an astral spark gemstone for a nice QoL enhancement

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the only regional that matters

weary quail
#

I like having both of them. But Astral Spark is the really important one.

#

Both arrythmic gate and astral spark that is

smoky pendant
#

If you can deal with the broodtender’s DS, you can just go to the third level and avoid ravagers all together.

weary quail
smoky pendant
#

For a rogue? Garrote?

weary quail
#

#rangers

#

For Rangers

smoky pendant
#

Rangers? 611/616.

weary quail
#

Ah. Spike them. Got it

smoky pendant
#

That’s primarily what I use against broodtenders and strandweavers.

#

If you train in brawling, UCS makes quick work of them too.

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I’m ranged/spells so o often forget: which mob has the passive disarm chance on attack again?

keen dagger
#

Myrmidons. And maybe something else, been a minute since I Hived it up

weary quail
weary quail
timid hearth
#

It's just myrmidons.

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And it's not just if you attack them, they will "Get down, Mr. President!" in front of other mobs and can disarm you that way too.

unique warren
#

but alas

weary quail
#

Let me fix my ;hive_traps script. It’s currently broken. Doesn’t catch failures properly.

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But that will do the mandibles.

unique warren
#

;ecleanse does it...ok but if you run through the room with the mandibles (a la typeahead 3+) it will jam you up continuing to search for the mandible that arent in your destination room

weary quail
#

;ecleanse? I'll look at that one. Maybe I need to be running that instead

frigid canopy
#

Hive gems now only have a 50% chance to spawn into porous chunks of rock. The rest of the time, they will drop as normal.

tall plaza
#

Neat!

vale wigeon
smoky pendant
#

I literally came here to ask why the bugs started dropping gems. 😄

minor salmon
#

Boxes in the hive are already very rare, I hope they aren't cut by another 2/3 with the treasure changes. 😞

main cargo
#

That's actually a good thing in this new system. You're not going to find a box with 20k silvers that immediately end your hunt.

minor salmon
#

I disagree. A box with 20k silvers didn't end my hunt before today anyway.

main cargo
#

But you are a giant lady, or a lady giant.

smoky pendant
vale wigeon
minor salmon
# 
"The porous chunk of rock given as loot is not fed to or displayed in the Wrayth Loot Window.  It's loot, so it should be displayed there."```
smoky pendant
#

The Hive seems a little swarmy this morning:You also see a sleek black kiramon stalker that appears rather calm, a sleek black kiramon stalker that appears stunned, a twisting wisteria vine heavily laden with clusters of pale violet blooms, a sleek black kiramon stalker that appears dead, a sleek black kiramon stalker that appears stunned, a sleek black kiramon stalker that appears dead, a sleek black kiramon stalker that appears dead, a chitinous kiramon myrmidon that appears dead, a translucent kiramon strandweaver that appears dead, a chitinous kiramon myrmidon that appears dead, the white Aharil disk, the Anarquendi disk, a peak tiger and a bloated kiramon broodtender that appears dead.

weary quail
#

Bunch of newbies showing up because they removed the rocks.

I give them a week maybe two of getting eviscerated before things go back to normal

thick crypt
#

Day 2 will get most of them

faint valley
#

a couple of screeches and a coup de grace and they'll realize it wasn't just the rocks

minor salmon
#

The even greater lack of boxes is so sad 😮‍💨

main cargo
#

That will be a bonus next month.

#

When everyone is getting 1 box that weighs 353 pounds and everyone will be begging for no boxes.

tall plaza
#

The gem dealer in Zul Logoth, Praeteria, has received orders from multiple customers requesting a gold-suffused resinous honey opal. You have been tasked to retrieve 10 of them. You can SELL them to the gem dealer as you find them.
A what?

#

Were new gems released as part of the loot changes? I've never seen this one anywhere.

smoky pendant
#

I think there have been a couple, I've noticed my rock breaking script hanging because of a gem it didn't recognize.

tall plaza
#

I guess I'll find them next month after loot cap resets.

minor salmon
#

The honey opal I just had maxed out at 8,250 after purification.

smoky pendant
minor salmon
#

They are on par with the average orb price of old uncut diamonds and emeralds.

#

old uncut emeralds and diamonds could be *12,500 afaik. I used to keep a 10k emerald on me to check if I'd exhausted my weekly trading sale bonus

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Orbed new a dark-forked ivory dendritic agate, fair quality at 5,000 so that one probably has a max value around 10k.

#

Another neato new gem: a versicolored sharp crimson crystal. Really beautiful description. It orbed out at fine quality, 5,800. So that one is probably is about max 7000?

minor salmon
#

For context on the diamond value reduction, I just max value purified two at 3,800 and 4,100 respectively.

smoky pendant
#

Man I hate double eviscerates.

weary quail
minor salmon
#

Yes, if I recall correctly my diamonds started around 1200 silvers. In the past it was usually around 5k.

weary quail
#

Hmmm. I have to figure out how to manage gems I guess

iron saddle
minor salmon
#

Another neat one- a gold-haloed pale dragonseye sapphire

weary quail
#

The hive was cast active last night. I haven’t gotten mobbed by 5 stealers in a long time.

Note to the newbies: stalkers have warnings. Pull them out of hiding and kill them for the good of all of us.

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I died 3 times in an hour. It was insane. Hasn’t been that way since I first got there.

smoky pendant
#

Yeah, it's been A LOT more active on the lower level the last couple days. My ranger and wizard got killed by double eviscerates yesterday, which almost never happens.

minor salmon
#

I can't hunt in ascension areas with my whips anymore, the recent creature spawn changes made swarms on solo hunters far too frequent. 😢

smoky pendant
#

Yeah, it's nuts sometimes.

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I had two broodtenders both call for myrmidons and then a pincer trap spawn almost all at once. My wizard got stunned and a bunch of stalkers came in.

#

There were like 15 creatures all in a matter of seconds.

#

Even with 619, 410, and 609; I couldn't manage everything because of the soft cast RT.

weary quail
smoky pendant
#

I really hate eviscerate.

#

Walked into the Hive, wizard got eviscerated, ranger got feared, immediately killed by three stalkers.

#

That SSR effect is brutal.

#

I didn't even make it beyond the first room past the barrier.

# 
[SMR result: 235 (Open d100: 172)]
Catching him unaware, it carves into Aharil with cruel and ruthless savagery!
   ... 5 points of damage!
   Awkward slash to Aharil's stomach!
   Everyone needs another belly button.
   ... 35 points of damage!
Blood sprays from Aharil's abdomen in a crimson arc!
   ... 9 points of damage!
[SSR result: 230 (Open d100: 176)]
Your limbs lock and you shake with terror!
Upon witnessing a sleek black kiramon  stalker's vicious display, you find yourself profoundly unsettled.
The figure quickly disappears from view.

Without warning, a sleek black kiramon stalker glides from the shadows and aims a preternaturally swift bite at you!
  AS: +589 vs DS: +462 with AvD: +24 + d100 roll: +98 = +249
   ... and hits for 78 points of damage!
   Slash to head destroys your right eye!
   Doesn't do your brain any good either.```
#

Two rolls over 170 on that Eviscerate too.

minor salmon
#

From the conversation today in the last few days, I gather I'm not the only one who feels the hive was a bit overtuned with the recent changes...?

weary quail
#

The recent changes plus the influx of players due to only 50% rocks. It’s been busy in town center more than usual. New faces.

The hive shouldn’t be this swarmy when there’s maybe 1/5th the player base at max from the other hunting grounds. It’s wild in there these days.

Why did we get rid of rocks? I no longer want this change. lol. Get the rabble back out of here.

smoky pendant
#

I wouldn't say "over-tuned", individual creatures aren't too strong. I would say just the VOLUME of things I've encountered recently can be problematic (not the last example, the last example is RNJesus forasking me.)

weary quail
#

Yeah. The volume.

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I mean there’s always been a bad day when you get 3 stalkers for a stun

I got five last night.

Freaking five.

smoky pendant
#

I'm used to not seeing anyone on the third level while hunting. Lately I've seen two other groups in there with me, so spawn rates are going nuts.

weary quail
#

I was on the first level when it happened

minor salmon
#

The ravager burst seems like it got more challenging with the recent spawn changes. That's one I would revert.

smoky pendant
#

This is what just killed me in the first room past the barrier:You gesture. A wave of dark ethereal ripples moves outward from you. [SMR result: 134 (Open d100: 74)] A sleek black kiramon stalker is knocked from hiding. A sleek black kiramon stalker is buffeted by the dark ethereal waves and is knocked to the ground. A sleek black kiramon stalker is buffeted by the dark ethereal waves, but is unaffected. [SMR result: 67 (Open d100: -4, Bonus: 16)] A sleek black kiramon stalker is buffeted by the dark ethereal waves, but is unaffected. [SMR result: 233 (Open d100: 164)] A sleek black kiramon stalker is buffeted by the dark ethereal waves and is knocked to the ground. [SMR result: 164 (Open d100: 95)] A sleek black kiramon stalker is buffeted by the dark ethereal waves and is knocked to the ground. [SMR result: 123 (Open d100: 71)] A sleek black kiramon stalker is buffeted by the dark ethereal waves and is knocked to the ground. [SMR result: 161 (Open d100: 92)] A sleek black kiramon stalker is buffeted by the dark ethereal waves and is knocked to the ground. [SMR result: 126 (Open d100: 24)] A chitinous kiramon myrmidon is buffeted by the dark ethereal waves and is knocked to the ground. [SMR result: 64 (Open d100: -7)] A sleek black kiramon stalker is buffeted by the dark ethereal waves, but is unaffected. [SMR result: 135 (Open d100: 32, Bonus: 41)] A sleek black kiramon stalker is buffeted by the dark ethereal waves. Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.

#

I walked in, immediately got Eviscerated, then this spawned.

#

8 Stalkers.

weary quail
#

I mean I’ve always died a few times a week. Not a few times a night.

Last night was my first time in a few days. Maybe it’ll level off. Who knows.

weary quail
smoky pendant
smoky pendant
minor salmon
smoky pendant
#

I also do not like not being able to drag a frozen person.

smoky pendant
#

Fixed it.

weary quail
#

after I finish clearing a room, I have a script that checks the buffer for any of the hints that a stalker is around. If they are flagged, it tells me so that I can cast 609. That normally keeps the number of stalkers in the area to a relative minimum so that way I can survive when Ravagers get me.

Just too many stalkers coupled with the ravager nonsense

smoky pendant
#

The primary sources of my deaths in the Hive are: stalker eviscerates freeze one character and they get killed by more stalkers or ravager acid.

#

I've been walking through the room and someone's ravager acid killed me.

#

I didn't even attack the stupid thing.

#

I've also been stunned by a ravager, my tiger attacked it, then the acid killed my wizard.

weary quail
#

Yeah I normally die from my cat hitting me with acid.

I solo in the hive so my experience is different. But it’s bonkers of late

weary quail
#

Seemed to be pretty normal today. Didn't see any new faces though. Wonder if they left already...

fickle marsh
minor salmon
fickle marsh
#

Thought perhaps it tried to sell at the gemshop and couldn't?

minor salmon
#

that's probably an eloot/infomon issue

fickle marsh
#

This has broken my immersion immensely.

You squeeze the chunk of rock with all of your might and it shatters apart, revealing a cushion-cut vibrant carmine ruby inside!```
#

How did that ruby get processed into a cushion-cut?!

keen dagger
#

You don't hide all of your precious stones inside random rocks?

#

(I need to make a trip to the Hive and collect me up some of the purty new gems1)

candid crane
fickle marsh
#

What! I think they are probably lava rocks!

#

And I'm SUPER strong

minor salmon
#

Mildly off topic, but one year at SimuCon, there were prizes of 'REAL gems' (in tiny cases) encased in kitty litter, simulating the EG Dig. Might have been 2017, else the year an unlimited shovel was released. Anyway, I think back to that a lot when kicking rocks from the hive. 😁

smoky pendant
# 
A calm washes over a sleek black kiramon stalker.
A calm washes over a sleek black kiramon stalker.
A calm washes over a sleek black kiramon stalker.
A calm washes over a chitinous kiramon myrmidon.
A calm washes over a disfigured hive thrall.
A calm washes over a corpulent kresh ravager.
A calm washes over a chitinous kiramon myrmidon.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.```
#

Man, what's with the spawn rate lately?

#

That's, again, at the room right inside the barrier.

#

My wizard has a SEARCH heirloom task and I dare not try to put away his runestaff or kneel.

smoky pendant
#

Is this a new gem?resinous honey opal

minor salmon
smoky pendant
#

Oof, double eviscerated again.

# 
[SMR result: 233 (Open d100: 174)]
Catching you unaware, it carves into you with cruel and ruthless savagery!
   ... 5 points of damage!
   Awkward slash to your stomach!
   Everyone needs another belly button.
   ... 35 points of damage!
Blood sprays from your abdomen in a crimson arc!
   ... 16 points of damage!
[SSR result: 177 (Open d100: 94)]
Aharil freezes in place, shaking with terror!
Upon witnessing a sleek black kiramon  stalker's vicious display, Aharil appears profoundly unsettled.
The figure quickly disappears from view.
!>
A chitinous kiramon myrmidon skitters in, raising his scythe-like forelegs and straightening to an impressive height.
!>
Your disk arrives, following you dutifully.
!>
Your abdomen drips as you continue to bleed.
   ... 24 points of damage!
!>
A sleek black kiramon stalker stumbles slightly as it leaps from hiding, revealing itself in the process.
A sleek black kiramon stalker uncoils from the shadows, poised to eviscerate you!
[SMR result: 200 (Open d100: 149, Bonus: 7)]
Catching you unaware, it carves into you with cruel and ruthless savagery!
   ... 5 points of damage!
   Awkward slash to your stomach!
   Everyone needs another belly button.
   ... 35 points of damage!
Your abdomen wound reopens and spills fresh blood!
   ... 23 points of damage!
[SSR result: 150 (Open d100: 74)]
Upon witnessing a sleek black kiramon stalker's vicious display, Aharil appears profoundly unsettled.```
frigid canopy
#

It is a little weird that those gems are "new."

#

They should've been added a long time back, but I wonder if there was a bug preventing them from being found.

fallow python
#

There are a couple of gems I had found since the changes that I don’t recall ever seeing in Moonsedge

small crag
#

"a craggy orb of coppery blue azurite" is another Hive one I never saw before the changes.

uncut tartan
#

If you find any gems that aren't showing up as a "gem" for Lich, please @tag me.

tall plaza
# 
gold-suffused resinous honey opal | first: 2026-01-18 | last: 2026-01-26 | bounties: 6 | avg qty: 7.83
dark-forked ivory dendritic agate | first: 2026-01-19 | last: 2026-01-19 | bounties: 1 | avg qty: 10.00
versicolored sharp crimson crystal | first: 2026-01-19 | last: 2026-01-19 | bounties: 1 | avg qty: 5.00
gold-haloed pale dragonseye sapphire | first: 2026-01-20 | last: 2026-01-21 | bounties: 2 | avg qty: 6.50
cushion-cut vibrant carmine ruby | first: 2026-01-26 | last: 2026-01-26 | bounties: 1 | avg qty: 7.00```
☝️ These are the new bounties I've received since the changes. I've never found any of the gems because of loot cap though.
fickle grotto
uncut tartan
# 
J>;zztest
--- Lich: zztest active.
[zztest: versicolored sharp crimson crystal - type: "magic" - sellable: "pawnshop"]
[zztest: craggy orb of coppery blue azurite - type: "gem" - sellable: "gemshop"]
[zztest: gold-suffused resinous honey opal - type: "gem" - sellable: "gemshop"]
[zztest: dark-forked ivory dendritic agate - type: "gem" - sellable: "gemshop"]
[zztest: gold-haloed pale dragonseye sapphire - type: "gem" - sellable: "gemshop"]
[zztest: cushion-cut vibrant carmine ruby - type: "gem" - sellable: "gemshop"] 
--- Lich: zztest has exited.

All currently detected properly

tall plaza
uncut tartan
#

Uncertain

tall plaza
#

I got them as gem bounties

uncut tartan
#

Trying to see where it may be getting detected from cause I don't see it called out specifically anywhere, so could just be generically getting typed due to noun crystal

tall plaza
#

Gotcha.

uncut tartan
#

yeah... magic has noun matching of:

<noun>^(crystal|statue|filings|triangle|granules|square|cube|sculpture|figurine|prism|statuette|orb|statuette|miniature)$</noun>
#

You got that in Hive?

tall plaza
#

Yes.

#

2026-01-19T09:57:29-0600: Praeteria says, "Ah, so you're from the Adventurer's Guild? Yes, I do have a task for you. I've recently received several orders from customers interested in purchasing a versicolored sharp crimson crystal. Unfortunately, I do not have quite enough inventory on hand to meet this demand. I'd like for you to go round up 5 of them for me. You can SELL them to me as you find them."

uncut tartan
#

I'll throw it in the gameobj Hive migration to mark it exclusion from magic/pawnshop and make it gem/gemshop instead

#

Thanks

tall plaza
#

Thank you!

fickle grotto
#

Right on, thanks for getting that tweak in

weary quail
uncut tartan
#

Haha it's a dummy script name I use for testing things real quick. I have ztest, zztest, zzztest... and you'd never believe the next ones name... it's zzzztest.

radiant prairie
#

Its a sleeper!

weary quail
weary quail
#

I feel like I'm getting disarmed WAAAY more often lately in the Hive. Anyone else?

smoky pendant
#

Nope.

weary quail
#

I feel like that question doesn't apply to you

#

😛

smoky pendant
#

Anyone else encountering very large groups in the third floor of the Hive recently?

#

You also see a sleek black kiramon stalker that appears dead, a chitinous kiramon myrmidon that appears dead, a disfigured hive thrall that appears dead, a sleek black kiramon stalker that appears dead, a sleek black kiramon stalker that appears dead, the icy blue Aharil disk, the Anarquendi disk, a bloated kiramon broodtender that appears rather calm, a peak tiger, a disfigured hive thrall that appears dead, a translucent kiramon strandweaver that appears dead and a bloated kiramon broodtender that appears dead.

weary quail
smoky pendant
#

Aha.

small crag
#

I love huge Hive swarms since everything there just flops over and dies. That's exactly where I go if I'm really desperate to rush toward a Gemstone before a week ends.

weary quail
small crag
#

Unless myrmidons get really lucky, yeah. It's like 15-30% the effort to kill Hive things compared to what I'm used to with disir or undansormrs in the Hinterwilds, or even angargeists. Everything has some combination of virtually non-existent TD, light armor, low health, and extreme SMR vulnerability, plus it's all crit killable.

Still more resilient than Moonsedge things that aren't conjurers, though, so there's that.

smoky pendant
#

I’m ok with smaller swarms. But when multiple strandweavers and stalkers come in, I evacuate.

#

If it’s just myrmidons, I’m fine with

weary quail
#

How much does MOC help with stalker ambush parties?

smoky pendant
#

Stalkers are still responsible for the lion's share of my ranger's deaths in the Hive.

molten turtle
smoky pendant
keen dagger
#

Also impossible without enhancing 😆

#

Also why 104?

molten turtle
#

(Edit: I have no idea why I worked so hard to rush 104, now, after looking at the chart again).

keen dagger
#

Oh right, 50% mod for ranged

#

I've been in melee mode too long

#

But also I'm not clear on 104 still lol

molten turtle
#

It’s a breakpoint!

keen dagger
#

Not for anything useful!

molten turtle
#

Yeah, I see that now…

weary quail
#

yo... when did thralls start webbing? I don't remember this:
⁨```
A disfigured hive thrall desperately thrusts a hand at you!
A disfigured hive thrall shoots strands of webbing at you!
AS: +530 vs DS: +327 with AvD: +33 + d100 roll: +90 = +326
... and hits for 64 points of damage!
Your arm snaps trying to prevent fall.
You are knocked to the ground!
The guiding force leaves a disfigured hive thrall.
You are firmly webbed in place.
You become ensnared in thick strands of webbing!

#

Ignore the low DS. I was already stunned, prone, in offensive, and at like 20% health

smoky pendant
#

Web bolt is listed for their spells on the wiki. Can’t really say I’ve seen it before, but I try to not let anything cast (or move, really.)

minor salmon
#

😳 Big MA groups turn the Hive from scary to impossible, esp with the recent creature spawn changes.

weary quail
#

I responded in the other thread.

I got hit by 7 stalkers last night it was insane.

timid hearth
#

Seems like a zone that's not solo huntable unless you have a strong AOE damage ability.

weary quail
#

I’ve been soloing the hive for like a year. It’s worse lately. Don’t know if that’s a bad thing.

#

I’ve got something that i run that checks the room for stalker warning signs and if it has them, then will cast 609 to pull them out so i can kill them to keep them down.

Going to see if i can tackle getting it into big shot. I really think the issue is that the largest groups increase the stalker count.

It disproportionately hurts smaller groups because of how they work where stalkers move between floors when someone gets stunned.

So if there’s an army on the third floor, then a single solo guy on the first who gets stunned, the spawn rate of the army numbers of stalkers ambushes the solo guy.

#

It’s just 609, 709, and 410? Anything else pull the out of hiding?

#

1219

timid hearth
#

912, 1030, 316, 335, 1117, 1120

weary quail
smoky pendant
#

I realize I don't solo it, but I manually hunt my wizard and ranger together by just alt+tabbing a lot. And the increased spawn rates has been making things spicy lately.