#[Duskruin] Mania Replacement

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olive warren
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Please?

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Haha

pallid axle
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Chrismarium + Chrism Censer

summer fiber
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Do you require physical items that has both scripts for that dual script redeem?

vale spear
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can we add 200k chrism censors and dwarf tatts to there btw

manic bone
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I mean I can speculate all night, while making double time, because I have to come up with the price of a small car xD

turbid pelican
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We need the Shenanigans to have a random script combiner prize (25K scripts X 25K scripts) and see what people get for a price, totally random

olive warren
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You don't need the scripts.

next magnet
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chrism censer multi ring teleporter

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just stick all your utility scripts together

sour raft
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Only if you gift it to me.

flat wasp
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Have you met us?

manic bone
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I would legit consider buying a chrism censer at 200k in there. Also good to hear the scripts aren't needed.

rustic stag
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Gnomish lockpick bracer + the launcher bracer that uses trap vials?

haughty socket
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spore staff + one of the defensive scripts like ethereal chains armor and become a pseudo thorns build character the debuffs and explodes things in reactive flares

marsh pollen
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Thaumaturge Tome + Book Buddy

ocean crypt
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Does the two script unlock add both the scripts with all unlocks? (Sorry if I missed this).

manic bone
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Would anyone like to buy $18,000 worth of random parts for a 1990's CAT 416 backhoe? You can pay me in bloodscrip, great offer, only 5m BS... I'll wait...

turbid pelican
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Gem chisel + real gem script, makes every gem chiseled REAL GEM

haughty socket
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anyone say comedy unlimited wand bandolier of wand bandoliers?

olive warren
boreal pollen
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Blink + tome

rustic stag
gaunt dagger
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As a warmage, sigil + blink would be 🤤

manic bone
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Add temporal to a crazy splitting weapon would be crazy, 20x splitter ;O

median echo
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temporal tally weapon if you're looking to max enchant?

sour raft
olive warren
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One teaser for auction is I'll be having some Temporal weapons there. Different weapon bases than what have been released so far.

vale spear
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there's an auction?

olive warren
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Yeah, auction for the unique/one off stuff.

manic bone
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Still planning on one temporal weapon per base type deal?

next magnet
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warcudgel!

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warkatar!

olive warren
bleak crypt
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ice cream machine + fishing rod = ice fishing but fishing for Klondikes

sour raft
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Peacelance

ocean crypt
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I’m going for the throwing net

olive warren
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Temporal throwing net that sends creatures to DragonRealms.

haughty socket
keen idol
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Whip Through Time

manic bone
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Put splitter on that defender returner throwing net for maximum lulz

next magnet
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throwing warnet

heavy lintel
median echo
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I leveled with a throwing net for a few months, don't hate

olive warren
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Let me tell Lyneya the plan.

pallid axle
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if you get a 20x throwing net you'll only be 580 endroll short of causing a rank 2 to actually knock something down or whatever, instead of 630

vale spear
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great cross promo, transfer some of our players there, bring some of theirs here

hybrid garden
# next magnet warkatar!

So... I know why you're saying this, but somehow the only thing it can make me think of is the next big service: weapon base combines. The speed of a dagger with the DFs of a lance. 10m bloodscrip!

summer fiber
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That net already brought me here from there after 25 years

Not sure how anyone will have BS for an auction with all that in the shop.

ocean crypt
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I’m not hating on nets. I want to level a character with nets. Just because the wiki says it’s objectively the worst weapon.

rustic stag
manic bone
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You know what would really make Temporal weapons pop off price wise, if they were 1s faster than their base... because time weapons 😉

ocean crypt
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I want to see an item that deducts 1m silvers from your bank account, and calls a mercenary that’s like an animate. And you can assemble a small invasionary force that follows you around.

olive warren
next magnet
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remember, the wiki says throwing nets are useless because it is objectively true and not a statement of opinion

narrow stump
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3x scripts, 4x scripts, 5x scripts. Embrace the hilarity.

turbid pelican
olive warren
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With a quick flick of your wrist, you deftly send a throwing net into flight.
You take aim and throw a throwing net at a frost giant!
AS: +9429 vs DS: +176 with AvD: +24 + d100 roll: +50 = +9327
... and hit for 292 points of damage!
Blow to the eye dazes the frost giant. The frost giant struggles to recover.
The frost giant is knocked to the ground!
The frost giant is stunned!
The throwing net ricochets away from a frost giant, landing nearby.
I stunned it!

sour raft
next magnet
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I really hope you're just jumping over to the glacier on live and throwing the net at random giants there

gaunt dagger
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lol 9k end roll and it lived

ocean crypt
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Wyrom, I will buy a temporal throwing net for 100k BS.

haughty socket
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might have to pay people to use em

sour raft
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Emotionally scarred by frost giants. Lol

next magnet
proud pulsar
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me too everyone used to kill me as I ran by

brazen glacier
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throwing net buff incoming

ocean crypt
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Mailboxes Tikba.

next magnet
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say no more

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I understand now

boreal pollen
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Show us a log of relic returner lmao

sour raft
proud pulsar
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best change in gemstone history, making attacks target critters first

manic bone
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9327 endroll and only a stun 😮

next cove
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I killed a guy in relnaks before change. Hunting in that area with a "Rel" name.. unfortunate.

proud pulsar
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I'd just be running by on the way to icemule and dead

manic bone
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I almost murdered Pookia in Pookas, then she capped before I did... since I still haven't

pallid axle
rustic stag
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back in the AOL days, I remember clobbering a guy named Kob in kobolds in icemule with my claidhmore >.> I felt terrible

summer fiber
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I can't find a temporal weapon example on the wiki, what do they even do?

Also, do the mind wrack and death flares in the shop require lvl 100?

sour raft
vale spear
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ya'll need normal names, although one of the recent invasions had brutes in it

bleak crypt
next cove
sleek onyx
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@olive warren where's the major splitter option

proud pulsar
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splts into 4?

rustic stag
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3, and you can fight like that guy from 1 piece.

vale spear
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extra arms 5m bs at next hyperhess

brazen glacier
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its a script to have your eonak arm attachment copy whatever attack you do

hybrid garden
proud pulsar
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major splitter + eonak arms

vale spear
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what's the point of a splitter, just make a bando now with whatever

manic bone
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2 for you 2 for your alt, then together you become voltron

brazen glacier
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even voltron had a sword tho

hybrid garden
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7-splitter dwarven warblade so you can assemble all of them on an MA army.

gaunt dagger
bleak crypt
proud pulsar
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what ever came of that design your own script? DId somebody buy that? Did something get made?

vale spear
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oh yeah, forgot about warriors

hybrid garden
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Meb bought the design your own non-combat script for like exactly 2m last August.

warm viper
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Coraesine relic and ethereal string ok for combining? (on a 15x weapon)

pallid axle
proud pulsar
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for 2m its a great buy now!

next magnet
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brute asked me to propose greater death flares that flare before attack resolution

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let's get that on the agenda

vale spear
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like ghez but with xaz

ocean crypt
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I thought the turn any category B flare preresolution was a good idea.

brazen glacier
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it goes back in time and kills the monsters parents

warm viper
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splitter and coraesine relic ok?

gaunt dagger
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Nickname it Stamina b gone

ocean crypt
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I’d like to see a service that applies any category B flare on a weapon to a cast (eg holding a xaz dagger, cast 410, death flares; or dispel flares on bow, cast 603, dispel flares)… turn weapon into runestaff.

olive warren
gaunt dagger
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Add Splitter for 1.5m.
Throw a returner cert in there for 1m too!

manic bone
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I would very much like to see a censer in there not because I like, want to pay 200k for a censer, but I HATE managing chrisms

next magnet
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You can get a chrismarium for 10k!

sleek onyx
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at this point you might as well do 50 CER for 9 million bloodscrip

next magnet
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;foreach first 20 gem in my backpack;get item;push my chrism

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Management complete

manic bone
# next magnet You can get a chrismarium for 10k!

yes but with a censer I don't need to make chrisms ever again

also - Chrism Censers are an unlimited use chrism that can be pointed at the dead to bestow upon them the benefits of a max strength chrism, which is 1 minute death sting recuperation and 100% experience pool retention. 1 minute recovery time!!

desert hamlet
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Any chance we can get coraesine relics to work with ranged weapons?

proud pulsar
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can we combine fithies and wormth?

vale spear
gaunt dagger
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We just need to convince Tivvy to expand the new HESS into multiple (sorted) rooms and the chrism censer can be put there next time.

vale spear
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how about just add chrism censor to hess, and dwarf tatts too!

manic bone
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that's fine too, I won't be financially recovering from several mistakes and disasters in feburary (hopefully????)

next magnet
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I mean who could have predicted it was a bad idea to purchase your own backhoe

vale spear
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backhoe > gemstone

manic bone
sour raft
manic bone
next magnet
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Settle down please

hybrid garden
vale spear
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anyone got an extra one for sale?

manic bone
final palm
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Don't the censers only work for clerics?

warm viper
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hi! @sleek onyx

hybrid garden
next magnet
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This feels like not amazing settling down

vale spear
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chrism censor is not about saving the money it's about saving the headache

sour raft
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lol I saw that message.

next magnet
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Let’s take that conversation back to the vbulletin forum it belongs on please

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Actually is it vbulletin

gaunt dagger
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Yes lol

sleek onyx
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I love you alastir

gaunt dagger
sleek onyx
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Hi Glaves

next magnet
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Let’s take THIS conversation back to the latched room it belongs in

gaunt dagger
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wow party pooper

next magnet
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It’s a family discord!

sleek onyx
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Splitter option for 666k @olive warren no one bid 1.5 mil when you tried throwing it up I think thats fair

gaunt dagger
sleek onyx
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just make it no enhancives no nordred affect problem solved

sour raft
warm viper
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Is there any issue putting a coraesine relic on a death metal brawling weapon?

vale spear
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are you trying to get a 27 mstrike

boreal pollen
warm viper
bleak crypt
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If you have 2 SKs from the same circle (say, 401 and 406), but otherwise don't know any Minor Elemental spells, how many "ranks" does your character have for purposes of calculating spell duration of 401 and 406 per cast?

gaunt dagger
bleak crypt
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yeah that's what i'm wondering

stark hazel
rustic stag
bleak crypt
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or if, for example, you otherwise have zero cleric spell ranks, does having multiple cleric SKs boost your cleric CS?

vale spear
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there's too much whale in that question

vale spear
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actually nevermind uac splits flare rate so that wont' work

next magnet
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unironically these questions would be fairly easy to answer if I had ever seen or touched an SK enhancive item but I have not

gaunt dagger
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It doesn't add "ranks"

I don't remember the duration of the SK I had, but it's not adding ranks or increasing your CS in the typical way.

bleak crypt
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should it?

rustic stag
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I'll take 15 ranks of Major spirit for my 215 SK, yes please

abstract cedar
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When you use spell does it list cleric spells or whatever sk your wearing?

bleak crypt
drifting hamlet
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u better off getting a self mana with a cs spell since the miu will get u a higher cs

rustic stag
abstract cedar
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Id assume it uses what ever number is there as a factor for stuff, what does just spell show

bleak crypt
drifting hamlet
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u could imbed 319 i think, naijin had said sk count as 1 spell rank for other purposes though

vale spear
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you could just go cleric

bleak crypt
abstract cedar
next magnet
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it does feel like being a cleric is the most efficient way to get cleric CS

drifting hamlet
next magnet
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although admittedly the value of a 319 SK item is fairly diminished for a cleric

rustic stag
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Honestly, if I could pay 5m BS to have Wyrom design me a custom RL puppy that is a golden retriver without the shedding and dander, I'd be so happy

vale spear
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i fail 319s in ME sometimes, if you don't have cleric CS you'd prolly fail it a lot

bleak crypt
drifting hamlet
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warriors don't die anyway

bleak crypt
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combine scripts: summoning rings and 12 setting permanent rings. Perpetually ring around to all 12 places and summon the other person everywhere you go.

boreal pollen
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Relic 12 setting ring

vale spear
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every time you teleport you lose all stamina and mana?

dim jasper
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I think I've talked myself into the combine scripts

vale spear
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what are you gonna do, splitter and string?

dim jasper
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Splitter and relic

vale spear
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do you all just hate mana and stamina, why are they so popular

dim jasper
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I need to test it out. I'm operating under the hypothesis that with death flares I can only swing so many times before the thing dies... so not many extra swings probably?

brazen glacier
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some people just want to watch the world burn - in a flurry of screen scroll

vale spear
bleak crypt
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what better use of 10 mana and 10 stamina is there than another swing of my weapon

dim jasper
next magnet
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I wonder how that works with whirling dervish

brisk dust
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Damn everyone that stripped anfelt off their armor gonna find out they can have 2 scripts for 5m bs and be sad!!!!

gaunt dagger
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I was trying to think of interesting defensive combos, everyone went offensive with suggestions

hot mesa
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that's what I was thinking. What would you combine with say, voln armor? Voln + sprite?

proud pulsar
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I always wanted mist armor. Not the most powerful combo so not worth 5m but 2lb plate with a good combat script would be cool

boreal pollen
next magnet
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Voln plus sprite so that you can make them make your sprite a tiny voln

hot mesa
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could you combine something with itself for 2x the bonus?

boreal pollen
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12 slot fusion ftw

ocean crypt
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I’m not sold on any armor script, let alone two scripts, that would necessitate an entire gun rack.

proud pulsar
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Probably comes as t1 so even more to unlock

olive warren
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For death flares, bows and runestaves are fine. No for UCS and shields for now.

boreal pollen
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wyrom coming to confirm 12 slot fusion is a thing

hot mesa
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actually combining fusion with another armor script would be pretty sweet. I'd need six slots thrown in though.

olive warren
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UCS being gloves/boots.

gaunt dagger
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#6: Lahke says, "Okay, next.  MIND WRACK for a runestaff.  Same deal."
Lahke says, "Warclaidh, 300,000, once."
Lahke exclaims, "SOLD!"

I wanted to follow up on this with another data point.

It was 450k at auction on gloves/boots, but only 300k (The OTS low steel price) on a runestaff.

boreal pollen
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this is what i saw
for now...

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gaunt dagger
hot mesa
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True, if you've got another 2.5m laying around.

boreal pollen
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since death is a flare now, can i transmute my xaz weapon into starsong?
serious question

gaunt dagger
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Death was always a flare. And probably still no. Unless you pay the 2m to add the death flare first.

boreal pollen
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but it already has death flare lmao

ocean crypt
gaunt dagger
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The easier way to say it is, if you transmute from Xaz, you lose Xaz benefits. If you transmute from non-Xaz with death flare, you keep death flare.

Is it convoluted, yes.

proud pulsar
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It’s a policy decision not a logic one

modest mauve
next magnet
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Gem eating gem sorting backpack

boreal pollen
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i mean thats pretty disappointing :/
its xaz, i should be able to go the other way

gaunt dagger
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But it's not Xaz, it's two different scenarios.

Xaz doesn't exist without a death flare, but a death flare exists without Xaz.

manic bone
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whiiiich is weeeeird because like if you transmute away from firewheel you keep the firewheel flare but then you have to worry about someone hitting your tree

boreal pollen
proud pulsar
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Maybe they’ll do it but with big surcharge, say, 2m

olive warren
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I'm just trying to make sure we use language that doesn't spark any doubt. I don't know if we will use death flares outside the scope. But for now, we want to avoid gloves, boots, and shields. Maybe one day, but probably not.

vale spear
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so what's the best mat to combine death flares with now

gaunt dagger
boreal pollen
vale spear
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how about the idea floated earlier about moving any cat b to preflare

boreal pollen
gaunt dagger
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(yet)

ocean crypt
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I imagine they would do it with a greater transmute…

boreal pollen
next cove
boreal pollen
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well especially when its now fairly easy to go the other way
idk guess i need to get some clarification

vale spear
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i kinda feel like this whole hess+ list is geared almost exclusively toward squares, can pures be thrown some bones

proud pulsar
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What’s the cost difference doing it off the shelf vs the way you wanna do it? Is it similar?

brazen glacier
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whatchu want in there brute?

boreal pollen
ocean crypt
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Xaz + greater transmute is just about the same cost as Starsong + add xaz flares

proud pulsar
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Then it should probably be doable. I don’t make the rules though so who knows

boreal pollen
ocean crypt
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I’m not sure either. Just pointing out that the bloodscrip price is roughly equivalent. I’ve obviously never purchased a greater transmute.

vale spear
modest mauve
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Combine two scripts is for everyone!

vale spear
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what would you even combine as a pure

ocean crypt
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Sigil + spore?

boreal pollen
rustic stag
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if I had the funds and no cares in the world, I'd prob add voln armor to my mana-armor on my pure

gaunt dagger
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Other things to add:
+1 Tier Ensorcell for 1m bs

Instant S6 for 2m bs

Empath tattoo for 1m bs

  • Aug. Mania 2021 - 800k bs
  • Feb. Mania 2022 - 900k bs
  • Aug. Mania 2022 - 925k bs (3 sold)
olive warren
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I have 3 other things I plan to add.

proud pulsar
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Empath tattoo sold last sub 500k

gaunt dagger
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I'm just reading through old manias and seeing what's been offered, and what it sold for.

vale spear
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oh, gub, bring back gub for 450k!

brazen glacier
rustic stag
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but to be 100% honest, the thing you could add to HESS / MEGA HESS that would make me the most happy, is the ability to add tiers of Sanct or Ensorc - heck you could make it so it can't be used on a item with a difficulty less then 800 or something. It's just REALLY hard to find people to do high end ensorcs and sancts in plat 😦

vale spear
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the whole gear difficulty thing needs work, it's ridiculous

next magnet
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Mechanical wand bow

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This is a good idea

boreal pollen
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its not the items you buy at hess/whalemart that matter

Its the friends you make along the way

vale spear
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gear difficulty is irrational in the way it's handled, you can build items one way if you just do all services on an item first, then add scripts & blubber, then you're fine, but if you go the other way you're screwed, makes no sense

modest mauve
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Sell Bard luck trinkets

eager cobalt
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You load up 5 wands and each shot flares all wands?

bleak crypt
vale spear
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can we load those gizmos with wands

brazen glacier
rustic stag
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Yeah, I did 90% of the work on my wizards staff before sanct became a thing. Now I'm struggling to find someone who can sanct it, cause it's like -900+ to work on

next magnet
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Wait, solar weapon and nebular weapon

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This one is actually a good idea

vale spear
bleak crypt
brazen glacier
next magnet
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I’m suggesting MY previous ideas were not good ideas

drifting hamlet
rustic stag
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@bleak crypt I did, he just hit level 30

next magnet
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I mean did you read them

hot mesa
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I spent 350m on sancts and ensorcells in the last 6 months... on 2 items. Not counting the +2000 potion I'm holding off on using till a bug with ethereal strings gets worked out.

vale spear
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i'm lazy I can't keep up with the real gemstoners

brazen glacier
vale spear
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people who spend 500m + on fluff are crazy, there I said it

brazen glacier
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to each their own!

next magnet
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It’s all fluff once you can fry

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Some fluff just looks more like flares than other fluff

vale spear
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are you saying AS over 1k is fluff

bleak crypt
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To be fair, more AS is entirely about vanity, so who am I to judge vanity of a different variety

final palm
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I suggested puddle gowns and it's an awful idea. Avatar air bending gown tho

modest mauve
rustic stag
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All I'm saying is, if some GM ever made my familiar pouch idea. I'd pay good money for one. Probably unreasonable money for one. >.>

modest mauve
final palm
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Actually that's what my ice gown is inspired by, Frost Queen Janna. I can't wait to wear it. 🌬️

rustic stag
final palm
vale spear
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how about a 5M pet that can go out and hunt for you and bring you back xp

modest mauve
eager cobalt
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Let's combine animal companion script with grizzled triton fanatic script.

final palm
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I read that as fanfic and I was like it really is late

modest mauve
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Now we're talking. The Wyrm script and the mount script.

eager cobalt
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Yes. Flying over town making everyone outside cower as you arrive,

proud pulsar
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I’d like to be able to eat people like a rift worm

vale spear
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you know they could slice you up from the inside

final palm
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Ohhh. A sleigh that takes you and up to five people in your group to HW from anywhere 5x a day.

modest mauve
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How come it never bothers them that I've got spikes on my armor?

vale spear
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unrelated but unrestricted asg changer should also be somewhere, one sold for 100k bs a few drs back and then we never saw them again

final palm
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We are getting bonkers and I like it

next magnet
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parasite armor nalea gown

vale spear
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if you buy 3 combiners could you end up with a 4 script setup

boreal pollen
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24 socket armor

bleak crypt
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Combine scripts dhu kitten and chat gpt. The kitten just ends up bickering with you all day.

proud pulsar
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Dachre box plus mirror, all your items become ascii when you look at yourself

boreal pollen
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Infinite refilling cigar and herb kit
Infinite refilling herb kit

modest mauve
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Dwarven empath tattoo and the bottomless keg

gaunt dagger
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The unlimited wandolier and seymoor

drifting hamlet
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u don't even need mana with wandolier though

vale spear
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get a bandolier of wandoliers

gaunt dagger
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darkstone key + lockerstaff?

drifting hamlet
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that is a waste of money

proud pulsar
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Dark stone staff plus 12 setting ring = cross realm 12 setting!

gaunt dagger
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Some might say all of this is a waste of money. 😛

vale spear
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about 6 years ago I had this thought "oh I remember playing that on AOL, I wonder if GS still exists". Sometimes I regret having had that thought.

gaunt dagger
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Ronan's Kiss + Sigil

drifting hamlet
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i don't think u could actually combine like that

boreal pollen
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Tonis boots and rift boots

vale spear
# olive warren I'm just trying to make sure we use language that doesn't spark any doubt. I do...

I do want to mention that I don't get the rationale for avoiding UAC. As someone who's used death UAC gear as a bard for like a year, with 1 sec attacks, it was still very slow to rely on xaz flares to kill stuff. It's not as amazing as dev appear to give it credit for. Great for PvP though, which doesn't really exist anymore since draccor died and lacie got the boot. Just my 2c on this.

regal perch
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Sorrow + gem eater so you can slot for the good effects only, plus the whole AS boost

warped stump
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Can we buy the combine script and get the 6 slot fusion script added and select 6 orbs you provide?

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Can the combine 2 scripts be combine 2 spell knowledge or 2 martial knowledge?

tropic monolith
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I actually know from experience that only 2 sk, 1 sk 1 mk, or 2 mk can work on an item atm.

warped stump
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Ya, that's known. Wyrom said you didn't have to supply the items/scripts and technically everything is a script. So basically select two SKs or two MKs or 1 of each and plop them on an item.

tropic monolith
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honestly for 5m BS, they might let you do 2 sks, 1sk/mk, 2/mks on an item, probably would have the nothing above lvl 20 restriction, but otherwise that falls in line with what SKs were going for in Feb

warped stump
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Would also like to see a copy eligible existing properties to another item for 2.5 mil BS and its attuned to your account.

tropic monolith
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I suspect when wyrom comes back around, he'll answer some more questions on the 2 script thing (like if unique scripts are allowed or whatever) but I also imagine they are pretty flexible with a 5m BS price point

abstract cedar
warped stump
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Rogues are the only ones with reliable push down mechanics.

sour raft
abstract cedar
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ambush, though im not sure how easy you can hide and do this at the higher levels of endless, which is a problem with every other thing you listed there, at a certain point in endless you either have 1k+ AS or you cheese it with clouds. if they can hide and ambush then yea its the only reliable push down mechanic, not that its the only one.

sour raft
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Ah, talking about the mechanic that lowers ebp?

abstract cedar
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its a stance push down and a reduction of EBP yea.

sour raft
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Right, I think he should have been more exact since almost everyone can push down stance. There are actually a few spells and cmans as well that can reduce ebp as well, so I basically disagree with his point about rogues being the only ones who can do that "reliably" .

abstract cedar
#

it was in terms of endless, I don't know that I've ever seen a rogue do it so I cant speak to it, but I know most spells and cmans are not reliable in those 100+ waves.

gaunt dagger
#

Plat should pay Prime prices at whale-mart.

abstract cedar
velvet moat
#

Why?

sour raft
#

Honestly, I take a harder line. I feel that plat is a waste of resources and exists for no good reason these days. The initial design and reasoning for plat wasn't bad but even then I thought it was a waste of resources. How they've changed it in recent years, really just means it has no good reason to exist. Plat's tiny player base should merged with Prime and then the plat server shut down. Since you asked Delindra. 🙂

gaunt dagger
shy jackal
#

(should have included the next message) 😄

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sour raft
tropic monolith
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definitely a dead horse, but if you want anything close to an official reply on it, and why I also assume plat will have usual discounts:
#1075899733459075092 message

shy jackal
#

Unique to prime.. not unique to itself.

velvet moat
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Interesting points. Dunno why it particularly matters though. Unsure how what they’re doing over there affects us over here in Prime. And if there’s GMs who want to and are willing to give time to it, not sure forcing them over to Prime would do much except make them quit.

tropic monolith
#

unique is unique, whalemart is HESS+, like the kilin horn Vaemyr has is unique I do not believe there is one in platinum

indigo cipher
#

the only one I think it matters on is the script combine, as it's not like it takes 20% of the time to do it for a person in plat. The others it's not as big a deal/difference

shy jackal
#

(the horn does exist in plat.. and I highly doubt anybody will buy the combine in plat, even at the discount)

velvet moat
#

But anyway. DR conversation.

shy jackal
#

Not unique to Prime in any way (as opposed to something relating to a prime-only storyline or MHO/CHE that only exist in prime). As far as firsts, plat has traditionally been the place to test things out first

#

It's a moot point. It is confirmed going to be in plat

gaunt dagger
#

I didn't say don't offer it. I just said to make everyone pay the same amount.

tropic monolith
#

not something worth arguing over, like it doesn't cause any issues for us in prime

#

I posted wyrom's response from my forum thread in feb for a reason, it sums up the reasoning behind the discounts and such.

Oh that does make me wonder on another question... Does whalemart allow attunement options?

gaunt dagger
#

No, he already answered that.

shy jackal
#

(not worth arguing.. but its funny hearing you complain about GMs having to answer questions.. which he can also just choose to ignore if he wanted to)

# 
I would think the people paying the most for something would take priority, but that's just me.``` Getting plat folks to pay what they can... you answered your own reasoning.
rustic stag
#

There is also the factor that plat produces a fraction of the amount of BS that prime does, so its much harder for prime prices to even work in plat.

shy jackal
#

Different economies 🤷‍♂️ But you're more than welcome to come play in plat along with anybody else.

abstract cedar
shy jackal
abstract cedar
#

just for fun math it would take 13 days using the NPC to generate 5m BS

candid oxide
rustic stag
#

the spending power of a few dozen accounts =/= the power of a few thousand accounts

abstract cedar
#

if you got multi accounts you could do it, it no time! I dont really care what plat pays or not honestly. I do see there biggest limiting factor as time though just not enough people working the slave mines of DR to make BS for others to buy.

near star
#

I agree with Melivn. Lets go back to discussing BS and the Mania and all that stuff. Lets put the Prime versus Plat rehash for the 80th time to bed on this thread.

viscid bolt
abstract cedar
#

someone try and get them to add spore and mana armor to an armor and get +50 AS and +30 CS for 3 minutes.

stark hazel
#

The instance hating ends now.

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Or I will close this thread.

abstract cedar
#

How about instance love and we just want them to share there discount with prime! because we love them so much 😄

stark hazel
#

(was clearly scrolled up and can now see someone else commented on that)

gaunt dagger
#

How far back were you, I need to know who you're turning the car around for.

stark hazel
#

Far enough.

tropic monolith
#

so, putting a script on splitters so far is one of the more "broken" things I can think of with the combine two scripts

abstract cedar
#

I mean I am in no way getting the dual script service i'm just here as part of the peanut gallery but, man I dont really see how 5m BS is worth any two script adds together personally. like how much better are you going to be really?

I also get numbers go brrrrrr though.

tropic monolith
#

I'm not gonna be buying it either, but I mean, it doesn't mean it's not fun to brainstorm ideas

dim jasper
#

If you consider that you don't have to pay for the individual scripts, it's better value. Like how much is splitter worth? 1-2m BS? How much is relic worth? 1m BS? So now you're talking about 2-3m to combine

median echo
#

fully unlocked karma armor + something else

abstract cedar
tropic monolith
#

and like, say I can combine sk 215 + sk 506 (I don't think this would be allowed but SK is technically a script) bet that'd sell

candid oxide
tropic monolith
#

yeah I'm just enjoying the thought experiment, the potential "unique" items are more up my ally as far as what I over-spend $$ on haha, I like me my toys.

tropic monolith
vale spear
#

would any pure here trade 15x acuity for death flares on the staff

abstract cedar
#

I'd prob eye up Calaels gloves to add to something if that was on the table

gaunt dagger
#

Nobody knows about those to ask for it lol (OR WHAT THEY DO)

torpid shale
abstract cedar
tropic monolith
#

I'm betting unique things like that or rift boots or whatnot might be off the table as far as scripts available to just put on stuff.

vale spear
torpid shale
tropic monolith
#

be interesting when Wyrom comes around today to answer questions on all our wild ideas.

abstract cedar
#

old 515, +15 CS and spell pierce would be super nice with something else though.

vale spear
#

staff adder?

gaunt dagger
abstract cedar
#

I dont think wyrom should waste his time answering questions here. lots of voices not a lot of open wallets.

#

need to do a whale mart meeting need 5m bs in pocket to walk in the door.

vale spear
#

new certificate idea - spend 100k bs to get a question answered

torpid shale
#

Yeah I agree with Melivn on this one. I am not a buyer of the service. But he needs to not be bogged down by all of us just daydreaming when a person who might actually buy it has a question

oblique otter
#

It is definitely fun to brainstorm fun combinations but the price is too rich for my blood so I'm keeping my daydreaming to myself 😄

indigo cipher
#

I think he's reading the ideas just to brace himself for what's coming, even if he isn't going to respond individually

tropic monolith
#

I'm not sure why you folks hate getting clarification or information. While again, it's unlikely I'll spend 5m on this, it's not something out of my price range.

indigo cipher
#

In all honesty, even answering yes or no on possible may require a few hours of research, so it's unlikely any hard answers come from open discussion

oblique otter
#

(That said if anyone wants to direct message and chat about crazy combinations I'm always down - maybe we need a "poor people's crazy ideas" thread!)

dim jasper
#

It's pretty fun to theorycraft on this

gaunt dagger
#

The eye-rolling part for me was when it went from "what fun scripts could we combine" to "how out of scope (meaning not script related at all) can we make these requests"

Wyrom is generous with his time and attention, let's not abuse him

pallid axle
shy jackal
#

cursed animal spirit armor

pallid axle
#

Ethereal string and returner. Every time you hurl it two of them come back

candid oxide
shy jackal
#

Was it two scripts of your choice or did it have to be two scripts you already own (combine these two)?

amber hazel
#

lol at how buggy a few whale items out there are gonna be after the script combinations

candid oxide
pallid axle
near star
pallid axle
vale spear
#

we need more scripts

shy jackal
#

60s wand belt w/ wand bow? (the cast any spell at it wand belt)

final palm
#

forest armor and morphing armor script, so hot this DR

dim jasper
#

Are there any attack scripts that help with EBP?

pallid axle
#

twin weapon i think offhand edit: maybe not, looks like just DS. ithought it had a proc to increase parry chance

next magnet
#

Pure coraesine plus stamina vial flares

pallid axle
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nightshroud + shield cape

final palm
#

Batman cape

viscid bolt
#

I saw someone with a pure corasine claid in the arena the other day. Can you attach a coreasine relic to this?

warped stump
#

Blink plus briar on a weapon would be probably the top end especially for mutants.
For squares if you have a nice enhancive weapon splitter and old coraesine.
Cursed and mana infused on armor would be top end imo.
Two handed weapon would be briar and old coraesine if possible.

pallid axle
#

normally, no. for 5 million bloodscrip? maybe

proven trail
#

That's all I can think of, and that's only +Parry chance.

next magnet
#

curved cuts chakram plus ethereal string

#

yo yo of doom

turbid pelican
#

If the 2 scripts combine and then become a new custom script, can you do that twice more and get a quad script? (for 15M BS)

next magnet
#

uh oh

turbid pelican
#

30M BS for cursed voln sigil sprite animalistic ethereal armor

pallid axle
indigo cipher
#

are material properties scripts under the hood? StarDeath could be fun

dim jasper
covert rivet
#

Cast 611? 😄

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Or.. if you're just looking for something to spend money on. Change Prof potion, THEN cast 611...

pallid axle
#

warriors got shout too 😄

but yeah immobilize gonna immobilize. though apparently that reduces essentially EBP from "training" to 0 (same with forceful blows from THW skills), but doesn't reduce EBP given from other skills that might add to it. So say, your block from shield use training becomes 0. but if you have block mastery you still get that. I have no idea if anything exists that works in the equation outside the skill check portion that could further reduce it. But yeah i mean....ironwright flares and get web flares i guess? 😄

modest mauve
proven trail
#

Hm. Yeah, immobilize is probably the best option there. Web flares from Ironwright, net flares from mechanical crossbows, set root from Sigil, that kind of thing. I don't think there's anything that directly affects EBP without applying a status effect.

dim jasper
#

Hmmm. I need a pre-hit status effect script

next magnet
#

that's dispel flares!

#

get them to put sigil on your spikestar

hybrid garden
#

Fighting Knives can reswing if the first hit misses, but, well, daggers only... at least in their current form?!

pallid axle
#

sigil is just root i think isn't it? i have to double check

next magnet
#

I just meant that sigil has dispel flares built into the script so you could still have your other flares

pallid axle
#

yeah rooted, which is baby immobilize. don't even know if it has any EBP penalty (but it has penalties to as/ds, can't do maneuvers, etc.), need to check actually on the ebp.... looks like no ebp from testing right now.

next magnet
#

depending on your cooldown expectations, valence blunts have an SMR attack that is an AOE blind, with a three minute cooldown

dim jasper
pallid axle
#

it's not immobilize!
edit: (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

stark hazel
near star
ocean crypt
#

I know it’s not happening, but I wish flare affinity was being added to Hess+ with a disclaimer about support

indigo cipher
manic bone
#

Deathsong

eternal sable
#

One memorable Christmas break in high school, in 14 days I got 21 hours sleep. Most of it the night before school started up again. The fun of energetic youth! No caffeine was used, either. LOL

boreal pollen
#

chronomage relic spikestar
x10 attacks possible?

olive warren
#

So just to give some realistic expectations on the script additions. If the service actually sells, it's going to take a lot of research to make sure it all works the way you (the purchaser) intend it to you. The hope is an easy copypasta job with minimum revisions to make overlaps work. But some scripts aren't going to work at all, especially older ones. I can provide a sample list of scripts that won't work here.

  • Spellstorm
  • Splitter
  • Pure Coraesine
  • Unique scripts, like Sorrow, Vee's Wake, Undead Killer, and an assortment of others
  • Going over property limits (like 4 SKs or 20 enhancives)
    There were some more creative ideas out there, but just a rule of thumb is if it has a lot of verb traps, high chance it will lose a lot of overlaps. There are no plans to update things like messaging with this, so whatever Frankenstein thing we build, everything has to work out.

I mentioned a no refund policy, that's simply for the things that are as is. If someone buys this service and you can't get the project you want out of it, you'll be refunded. That goes for any service that is offered if I have to revise/deny something. Something that gets the no refund treatment are things that are as is though, like a coraesine relic or 12x enchant. You know what you're buying. The cart won't have a limit so don't panic purchase anything. I will pull the cart when I need to add stuff.

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I don't want to say this combine script service won't be offered again, but I'm guessing this is the one time we offer it for awhile. Stuff like custom scripts take too long to produce. It's really tough coding someone's idea. For example, the 2022 buyers of the custom script still don't have them. The Platinum one was just finished and the Prime one is still being worked on. Both are "done" but getting everything right takes longer when it's not your own ideas. The brainstorming, approval, and getting started process usually takes between 3 and 6 months on creative projects. That's why things like the 2016 and 2023 auctions take so long to get done. Sometimes you can plow through ideas quickly, but most times it's a long process.

tropic monolith
#

Appreciate the answer (also the potential time-frame expectation on if something is really out there to get it working) thanks a bunch

indigo cipher
#

If a 2022 winner has theirs, he's gotten faster...

hot mesa
cold cosmos
#

what is the script "Undead Killer"? It's not on the wiki

abstract cedar
#

the whip maybe?

hot mesa
olive warren
#

It's the whip from 2016.

abstract cedar
#

nailed it.

olive warren
#

It has 2 names!

drifting hamlet
#

what is 20 enhancives?is the new number of enhancive that could be on an item?

abstract cedar
#

I didnt want to call out Naamit but it looks like she has it listed on the wiki

dusky blaze
#

Wait what?

near star
#

20 enhancives is the theoretical maximum slots on stat/skill enhancers

indigo cipher
#

Don't most scripts have 2 names? The public name and the private, usually just downright weird, name?

boreal pollen
#

12 socket fusion lets gooo

olive warren
abstract cedar
indigo cipher
#

I always get a laugh out of GM reveal script backend name time

drifting hamlet
#

so the wagon/shop will be here til the end?

olive warren
#

The enhancive bit was someone had asked earlier if you could go over the max by combining maxes. So 2 SK enhancives are the limit per item, you can't go to 4 with this.

near star
#

Briar3v2Final7.2

dusky blaze
#

also means I can't script combine the whip for my own purposes too. Though that also goes for transmute, flare add and basically any other possible change under the sun.

olive warren
drifting hamlet
indigo cipher
olive warren
#

Maybe one day we can work on unique items for their owners in some way. But that's really niche and not something I'd want to tangle into a pay event.

dusky blaze
#

P.s. I still use the undead killer / holy scourge whip every time I play 🙂

abstract cedar
#

Naamit brings up a good point would the owners of those scripts be able to combine them? bahhhhh

dusky blaze
olive warren
#

I like the idea of making a legendary item grow in some fashion.

olive warren
summer fiber
#

as i sit here and contemplate things. Coaraesine Relic + Blink weapon script sounds amazing. Until you're disarmed or lose it and you're out 5 million BS

haughty socket
#

I mean, not very long ago there was a huge arguement about how you can't put items out via storylines so thats off the table
you say you can't do them by pay so thats off the table
no one really likes raffles
there is no win for that stuff outside of just auctioning it honestly which has its own downsides

olive warren
#

Disarm isn't real anymore, it can't hurt you.

drifting hamlet
#

no splitter is killing all sorts of dreams. is the magebane 10 dispel consider a script?

near star
#

The magic resistance being removed has some nuances.... Specifically, make something out of Kroderine, swap it off of Kroderine, remove anti-magic property.

#

and now you have Dispelxwhatever at much cheaper than dispel flare additions

haughty socket
#

The only winning move is no unique scripts due to all the complaints. everything on the table for a price

median echo
indigo cipher
#

There are scripts you don't want on the table. They break the table

candid oxide
summer fiber
#

The true samurai wannabe inside me would like to do relic + blink weapon just so i can shoot out a bunch of ewaves from my dai-katana and pretend like i am in an anime. }: )

haughty socket
dusky blaze
indigo cipher
abstract cedar
olive warren
drifting hamlet
#

could i combine sk 1035 with sk 515?

near star
#

Infinite Growth, up to +2147483647 AS

haughty socket
#

No one wants to pay for an item that fights against you while bonding. There is a huge difference between "this item is borderline unusable until you do X things Y times" vs "over time it gets better with no downsides"

abstract cedar
empty dawn
#

was it announced when the auction will take place?

cold cosmos
abstract cedar
#

someone ask wyrom about when todays eventbox is dropping today. 👀

haughty socket
indigo cipher
#

If we keep him awake much longer it could drop today in November

next magnet
#

I think item backlashes are one of those things that sound fun but in practice when you have an animal weapon and it backlashes you then you just go take a break, because players generally control the terms of their engagement

drifting hamlet
#

since the combine item might take a while, does this mean layaway is on the table?

cold cosmos
next magnet
#

just using animal as the example that came to mind of a script that does have backlashing and affinity in the design

tropic monolith
#

an item that had infinite long-term growth while using it would be really cool, (probably useless to my main as a caster, but reaaaaally cool)

indigo cipher
#

Sprite you get something for the bonding and it's not too backlashy. You can also manage and reserve a mana buffer while it's attuning

next magnet
#

they did actually add an auction back in hahaha

cold cosmos
#

oh? I completely missed it then.

indigo cipher
#

You must be new here. But it is a little one.

tropic monolith
#

yes, for the six? private properties and the few unique items that were originally gonna be in whalemart

I think tentatively scheduled for directly after mondo shennagins?

haughty socket
#

probably around the 2nd/3rd

next magnet
#

wyrom said that the auction will "have to wait until the fun event"

#

I am hopeful that the auction, as the larger spending event, will not simply eat the game show

#

because that would...be mania

tropic monolith
torpid shale
#

I’ve been staying away from whiskey. But I traditionally have a very large pour for auction nights. It’s part of my fun.

olive warren
#

Auction will take place after we get done with the fun stuff. It's not a lot of stuff.

next magnet
#

I wasn't contradicting you, I was just giving the exact quote!

empty dawn
#

when is the "fun stuff"

olive warren
#

EVENT BOX will be out in just a little bit.

#

Fun staff is TBD, but we're probably saying Sept 2nd.

abstract cedar
olive warren
#

Haha staff.

#

I'm leaving it.

candid oxide
#

Unfun staff on duty until 9/2

tropic monolith
#

I hope staff has fun messing with us all during gameshow time

near star
#

Kroderine Runestaff = fun staff

abstract cedar
#

I'd swing it

pallid axle
olive warren
#

The black steel items are probably a no go. I'm checking on Ronan's Kiss too.

#

If it came from an anime, probably can't work.

#

That's like half my unique items.

torpid shale
#

How many auction items will there be? 🙂

pallid axle
#

i kinda figured any of the things that are more "unique" would just be a no-go but, the bonding thing being mentioned made me think about it and it seems like one someone could pull out of a hat.

i'd also think of random non-weapon things like the belt of kai or something. finally i can have my...thalior's eye + forehad gem? i dunno people are weird.

empty dawn
#

those new private properties will be in the auction or is that for the moon pie event or w/e its called

olive warren
#

Auction

tropic monolith
candid oxide
#

I'm a simple gnome. I just want to add valence to my animal bow so I can ascend to FlareStone VI

olive warren
#

Properties will have a MB of 400k

median echo
#

Wasn't that the rule last time going into it and one managed to go out for much less?

haughty socket
#

ah thats a shame that min bid is being enforced finally, they were getting into a really good place for players, generally speaking outside the alwys high demand areas

tropic monolith
#

to one of you wonderful Envoys, should pin that the properties are 400k MB, they've been lower last DR? so just so people are aware

next magnet
abstract cedar
#

that one snuck out in a mass of confusion for sure

olive warren
#

I won't be using the automated auction, womp womp.

tropic monolith
#

@tikba you da best ❤️

next magnet
#

poor new bids on the block

near star
#

I want to make a joke that you could hire envoys as auctioneers... but doing that manually sounds awful

tropic monolith
#

I can't imagine it's seen it's last days yet, but I'm on board seeing how these new events go

olive warren
#

NBotB is great, just takes time to set up and it's hard to adjust on the fly.

empty dawn
#

do the private properties come with node or workshop inside? (sorry for so many questions). I saw one had a "study", not sure if that translates to workshop or not.

olive warren
next magnet
abstract cedar
#

they come with nodes for sure the other things like workshops, shrines ect are typically just one and it comes with what it comes with for the premade ones you dont get to pick, its worth noting its just an earth node too, they dont do super nodes

tropic monolith
dim jasper
median echo
#

It did work great once it got going. Thought it was a great improvement on our side, hopefully it helped on the backend as well

indigo cipher
#

it's also great for things that are generally well known

olive warren
#

We couldn't have done the silver auctions without it.

#

That was such a heavy lift.

dim jasper
median echo
#

It was impressive how many things got out and how smoothly it seemed to go. Cheers again to folks for getting it going and making those events happen.

abstract cedar
#

I mean didnt it go like off the rails? am I not remembering this correctly?

olive warren
#

March's explosion was an issue of too many cooks in the kitchen.

median echo
#

round 1 did - qualified it with once it got going. Starting rough doesn't mean it didn't get to a good spot

manic bone
covert rivet
tropic monolith
manic bone
haughty socket
#

it generally got better with each run and the last two runs went smooth enough on the player side that they completed to my knowledge

empty dawn
#

wonder if we can purchase add on certs for workshops in the future

manic bone
#

Would be sweet

tropic monolith
#

the private property shops at RW and EG could have more options for things like that, there wasn't an add workshop or whatnot at last RW, but I could see that as something they could do. Might be expensive though

sour raft
#

Unique scripts, like Sorrow -Wyrom Why do you hate me!

haughty socket
modest mauve
brazen glacier
warped stump
#

Dang, no splitter for the combine kills it. 12x enchant it is.

If you have 2 zelnorn items at +50 (25/25) is it possible to enchant them to 12x and receive the bonus or nope?

hot mesa
warped stump
#

Thanks
Ya, Wyrom said no Brute

vale spear
#

splitter won't work with the 5m thing?

wooden geode
dim jasper
#

I gotta say - getting these questions answered here ahead of time is a lot nicer than live at auction. So that's one point in favor of moon whopper

warped stump
#

Briar and blink should work though. I don't think any of the verbs overlap.

stark hazel
indigo cipher
#

What about non-functional workshops? Can I take the workshop off and put it back on again?

stark hazel
#

You are welcome to use your "imagination."

hot mesa
#

Yeah but, if I transmute the property to zelnorn will the node stay?

stark hazel
#

it depends if you are wearing your kroderine underwear or not.

brazen glacier
#

what if i'm not wearing any underwear

#

new functional slot: worn around the groin

tropic monolith
#

Maybe? Was mentioned in the property limits, but probably between someone interested and wyrom. For 5m bs there's prolly a bit of leeway.

drifting hamlet
#

probably not but doesn't hurt to ask

boreal pollen
drifting hamlet
#

don't have that much blood

torpid shale
vale spear
#

I'll take an SK506/SM506 combine so I can go back to square. Pures suck now.

drifting hamlet
#

why u could buy like 4 or 5 sks with 5m

torpid shale
#

I want 1435!

vale spear
#

I want 950 loaded with cleric spells

median echo
#

1912 for me please - would love to get champions might (old 1612) back

next magnet
#

950 302 302 302 302 302 and just roll the dice on instant kills with 200 religion

warped stump
#

1007 and 1235 for empath

dim jasper
#

950 720 720 720 720 720?

next magnet
#

I think I would say that wyrom saying "you can't do something that would overload the property limits like three SKs" does not necessarily imply "'but two SKs would be totally fine"

indigo cipher
#

frankly, as long as the SK isn't on the restricted list, him letting somebody burn a script for an SK slot is stupid good sense, as it means there's like zero work. "Oh, you want an SK on this script I'm otherwise not changing? Thank you"

bleak crypt
#

That’s true. The list then included 506 as an option

amber hazel
dim jasper
#

To be fair, we were crazy pants

gaunt dagger
#

Probably, but if you can get 1035 + 515 now for 5m bs. That seems like a bargain when "offerings will be limited by pricing"

Offer a SK combo, but put it at 10m

dim jasper
#

I took away my thumbs up because you edited your message ❤️ 😄

gaunt dagger
#

Removed my messages to not add to confusion...

SK are enhancives.

Not scripts.

hexed canopy
#

I like it. Do a 950/535 combo

drifting hamlet
#

nothing wrong with due diligence

vale spear
#

did we learn what the other 3 items were

drifting hamlet
#

steal a spell from any circle

shy jackal
#

combine coin hand and ... ?

bleak crypt
#

Gemstone has a very long tradition of live auctioning mysterious wares. From Kelfour Edition, Volume I, Issue II (July 1990): https://gswiki.play.net/Kelfour_Edition_volume_I_number_II

minimum bid is 100 silvers. Who will give me 100 silvers for a platinum key?"
Vandella says, "And what does this key open ...?"
Vandella says, "Even the local locksmith can't do work this fine..."
Vandella says, "This key could open a hundred doors..."
Vandella says, "... a thousand chests..." 
Vandella says, "Highest bid is a lowely 544... surely, this is worth more.. "
Sturm says, "Naaa"
*BANG*! "Sold to Ged for 544 silvers," exclaims Vandella the Auctioneer!
The auctioneer's assistants quickly shift the lot from the top of the display
table to underneath it, to make room for the next lot.

(some text removed)

gaunt dagger
#

I'm okay with paying for mysterious wares if they only cost 544 silvers.

indigo cipher
#

I wasn't disappointed with my mystery auction win

bleak crypt
drifting hamlet
#

is anyone actually planning to spend at the shop before the auction?

vale spear
#

no

bleak crypt
#

I note that the Closed Essence spell circle had 4 varieties of Sleep. 4!

drifting hamlet
#

how does somnis work with hamstring or any attack that doesn't work if crittter is prone?

final palm
drifting hamlet
#

doesn't the flare happen before the attack?

final palm
#

I'm sure the flare is triggered before the attack resolves when the attack starts

drifting hamlet
#

yea so it would be sleeping on the floor so the hamstring won't work

final palm
#

oh I get what you mean. I'll check on it now

dim jasper
bleak crypt
#

Good dev is all about hard choices!

final palm
# 
You lunge forward and try to hamstring a large-tusked wooly mammoth with your midnight blue badelaire and blue short sword!
[SMR result: 166 (Open d100: 11, Bonus: 40)]
Your size slightly hinders your attack!
With a vicious double-strike you slash at a large-tusked wooly mammoth's right leg!
   ... 26 points of damage!
Downward slash across the wooly mammoth's left thigh!
   Gouges bone!
Blood sprays from the wooly mammoth's right leg in a crimson arc!
   ... 12 points of damage!
 ** Necrotic energy from your midnight blue badelaire overflows into you! **
   You feel energized!
Strands of foxfire green energy lash onto the wooly mammoth from the midnight blue badelaire!
You deftly alter the course of your midnight blue badelaire in your hand after your strike towards your foe!
[SSR result: 163 (Open d100: 62)]
 ** For a split second, the striations of your midnight blue badelaire expand into a sinuous pearlescent mist that rushes towards the wooly mammoth, enveloping her entirely and causing her to collapse, fast asleep! **
The wooly mammoth goes limp as she is rendered unconscious!
You swing a sleek midnight blue badelaire at a large-tusked wooly mammoth!
  AS: +566 vs DS: +303 with AvD: +34 + d100 roll: +95 = +392
   ... and hit for 118 points of damage!
   Hard slash to the wooly mammoth's side opens her spleen!
   The wooly mammoth is stunned!
Strands of cobalt energy lash onto the wooly mammoth from the blue short sword!
Roundtime: 3 sec.```  oh, that triggered off a second attack from twin weapons
gaunt dagger
#

Was it asleep after the attack (Also, is that greater?)

final palm
#

That sleep was actually pre-attack caused by the second swing from the twin weapon script. I hamstrung 15+ times and didn't get a single sleep flare besides that one. Got plenty of fear flares.

#

I'll take this to the somnis thread.

next magnet
#

man I'm realizing that hess/whale-mart redemptions are going to be brutal on september 3rd

gaunt dagger
#

I'd like to see a thread for new ideas/suggestions. Melivn made a good point earlier about how all of this stuff is "Square" focused. What offerings would be "Pure" focused? What new scripts would people like to see?

narrow stump
#

The redemption flood comes from everyone holding out to the end "in case" they want a moonshot item, a property, more September wps, etc. All the incentives are to wait until the end to commit to services.

dim jasper
#

Death flares for runestaves are pretty good, right?

bleak crypt
dim jasper
vast tinsel
#

Has a price list for the Moonburger shop been released yet?

bleak crypt
vast tinsel
#

Nice thank you, looks like I can go spend my BS at HESS now

hybrid garden
vale spear
# gaunt dagger I'd like to see a thread for new ideas/suggestions. Melivn made a good point ea...

There's not much to ask for though in the current state of the game. Part of the problem is pures are just a 1 trick pony through game design. If you can't ward something, you just get to stand there and watch. Squares have access to a huge variety of weapon scripts, maneuvers, UAC to fall back on, and 1k+ AS that overshadows anything pures can remotely come up with. As a pure, once you get your greater sigil surita maxed out and your armor set, there's not a whole lot else to do, aside from grabbing a couple of the aforementioned trinkets (censors, dwarf tats, etc). What I'd love to see is more attack vectors for pures to use and develop. Maneuver based spells were supposed to be it but in endless spells like 309 are just entirely ineffective. Maybe UAC should be made more accessible across the board, to make it more profession agnostic. There's just not much to do as a pure in the end game.

#

random things that would help

  1. Flares that can cause your main attack to spell pierce
  2. Being able to move lethal flares like LS/xaz to pre-resolve so you don't have to rely on warding to damage something
  3. Have things like 309 have an inherent lethality component like 5-10% so you don't have to rely on 125 in endless as the only means of damaging anything
  4. attacks that can't be warded and always do a small amount of damage, so you can at least chip away at something over a long time
amber hazel
#

I don't care about Endless but I otherwise agree that pure combat in GSIV is extremely stale and itemization for pures falls far short of physical combat. I'm starting to kick around the idea of fixing Nidal to warrior. Definitely a derail to this thread though.

hot mesa
#

And yet, pures still kill faster than squares. I get the staleness concern, but squares walking around with 1k+ AS is largely fantasy except for one offs.

abstract cedar
#

I just want cool pure toys, you'd figure pures are big damage but cant take hits but slow squares have become just as big damage and can take hits its a little weird imo.

hot mesa
#

I agree to fun new toys.

turbid pelican
#

I am huge advocate for the mid-tier 25-100m non-competing items like essence belts/pylons/mana cloaks/ Thauma Tomes..... fun mechanical items that you can get bored with then ship to your alt and have fun with again

silk trout
#

Make hunting ground that mimics everyone who has walked in there before . So like a hinterwilds with tough creatures but there is also ghosts of Melvin and kerl walking around with 80 percent of their stats that you have to fight . Make something challenging so people will actually have a need to make themselves more powerful. Right now need doesn’t exist .

turbid pelican
median echo
#

One of the things I liked most in the sorc review was a spell giving some sort of shield/padding. With some of the changes to the game, giving pures a way to reliably shake off a hit or two would be a welcome change.

silk trout
#

Simple……If you don’t like it , don’t go there . There is always the option of going everywhere else that exists.

turbid pelican
warped stump
#

I remember a sorcerer review that was trying to spice up pure combat but a lot of the feedback was not wanting dots and not wanting to have to cast disablers and setups.

Squares were always slow at 5 sec of RT and have always used disablers. Warriors with tackle and warcries primarily and rogues with hiding and ambushing and various guild skills. PSM3 just added more options but they're all still kind of slow at 5 or 4 sec of RT and still have to use setups but they're definitely more effective.

There was quite a lot of angst in the past over pures wanting to cast 1 spell and 1 spell only due to time to kill metrics or whatever and fighting against anything that caused them to have to cast more spells to kill a thing.

haughty socket
#

The real endgame in GS is saving/destroying entire towns/villages/cities/empires through storylines. Ordim has killed numerous civilians in his quest for power

final palm
#

This is why I don't eat your food

abstract cedar
warped stump
#

It was enough to shut it down though

haughty socket
# final palm This is why I don't eat your food

Just trying to spread awareness of food allergies. its a public service when you really think about it.

along the lines of items as a pure I might like: SMR bonuses for 917 the best spell ever made and the only one you need
an offhand focus/crystal/whatever that provides either weighting or sighting to bolt spells

warped stump
#

At the moment though the spell disabler review is definitely being worked on. I'm sure we'd all like more of an update and kind of get an idea of how things are going to work but lots of lessons on teasing the playerbase with stuff before its fully fleshed out and pretty much ready to test

abstract cedar
# warped stump It was enough to shut it down though

it didnt get shut down zissu left and then no one picked it up, he was actively coding it. They said the dev team was working on it after but it got back burnered for the spell disabler as it should have been since that will touch way more people.

gaunt dagger
#

Are squares slow now? I mean if you want to use a scimitar probably. But why aren't you hurling for those head shots?

warped stump
#

My mistake then if its still in the works

abstract cedar
#

Id just like better toys to raise the pure ceiling theres no string or relic for pures really.

boreal pollen
proven trail
#

I'm hoping the wandoliers get a la carte unlocks going forward, cause there's some really incredible toy potential in that system.

indigo cipher
#

I believe they were confirmed for unlocks going forward. I'm also hoping that we can get some plain spell ones to start with rather than having to upgrade the uber-wand ones, as I'm worried the unlocks will be priced for double-cast flaring wands rather than just "I want extra 904"

silk trout
boreal pollen
bleak crypt
#

I agree that itemization options are much more robust for squares, and if I were a pure, I, too, would be looking for more cool toys to buy than are currently offered. I do think part of the problem in Gemstone is how the game's mechanical content focuses almost exclusively on hunting. Hunting is the primary (and arguably for most purposes, the ONLY) means of character mechanical progression. Other games have other means of mechanical character progression (e.g., PvP, raids, dungeon crawl).

The problem is that if you're dev for this game, it's tempting to narrow the problem to a metric you can solve for: time to kill (TTK). Granted, I know dev looks at many other metrics, but I still get the sense that they're trying to solve for existing metrics, as opposed to broadening the definition of the problem to include looking at other platforms for character progression outside of hunting.

When you're looking exclusively at hunting, it's easy to say that pures are in a good spot and don't need much help or much more itemization. The introduction of alternative means of character progression (alternative to just hunting) could open up different things to optimize for, and therefore more itemization options.

tropic monolith
indigo cipher
#

hey guys.. I mean this in the nicest way but given that the shop opens tonight, could we maybe move the itemization discussions to another thread so I'm not checking in case there's an announcement or update for this shop?

bleak crypt
#

I hear you and respect that you want that, but I think this is a good place for it. It's relevant to what's in and what's not in today's offerings. And I think it's a perspective that GMs who spend a lot of time and attention by making this game awesome and by making these cool toys would appreciate seeing. It might give them ideas on how else to make cool toys or how to make those cool toys interesting.

daring halo
hot mesa
#

Pures have been complaining about a lack of toys to buy for decades. It was Virilneus's favorite shtick. You could count on it anytime an event or auction was announced

torpid shale
#

Gimme the arcane grimoire. Also give me something that empties my mana bucket and super novas something. Like just insane 1k+ damage possibilities. Dependent on mana bucket and other stats.

dim jasper
#

I am psyched for today. That is all

hexed canopy
pallid axle
torpid shale
# hexed canopy 950!

I want bigger!!! Also. I want more cart info! Gimme more things! Take my BS! :p

bleak crypt
#

Combine a fishing rod with the animalistic weapons. Every time you hook a fish, it sends a flare up into the sky in the image of your animal. Even better - the image of your fish. The fish getting eaten by your animal?

haughty socket
#

fishing rod + cooking fire script = always able to cook your catch fresh and instantly

hybrid garden
#

Man, y’all need a separate thread for this “itemization for pures kinda sucks” thing that I’ve woken up to, so I can probably go rant in it. 🤣

modest mauve
gaunt dagger
modest mauve
vale spear
gaunt dagger
#

I think he did make a comment but I'd have to go back and look

modest mauve
#

Yes, yes. You're all very smart.

abstract cedar
dim jasper
#

Y'all got any more of those... carts?

boreal pollen
#

I was told

There would be carts (but only after someone can help with my defuse assist 😦 )

hot mesa
#

Has Whalemart opened yet?

boreal pollen
#

negative ghost rider

olive warren
#

Oh, it's not open until 9 or 10, sorry. These certs won't be like HESS, sadly. So I need to redeem them. No, you shouldn't buy them and hang on to them, if you don't want to use them yet, wait until later to buy them.

indigo cipher
#

Upon purchase, you will be immediately transported to his Fungeon until the service is complete. Bring snacks.

torpid shale
#

Can we get this list pinned here please

tropic monolith
#

It is pinned, unless there's been updates since that I've missed

modest mauve
drifting hamlet
#

is the full list out yet?

modest mauve
#

No updates since yesterday, no

gaunt dagger
drifting hamlet
#

happiness 4 u

torpid shale
boreal pollen
manic bone
#

Spend it on yourself, you deserve it

indigo cipher
#

Didn't he already say he was buying nothing?

modest mauve
#

The sweetness and light in here is cloying, but a nice change of pace.

olive warren
#

Putting the final bits and pieces together and making sure nothing is missing in the details. You're looking at 10pm ET (ish) when the cart will drop. It's not a cart. You will REDEEM these things, but I'll be around when we drop it so I can work for those ready on things that are redeemable on the spot, which is basically everything outside the combining scripts.

modest mauve
next magnet
#

I hope it is a meteorite

#

The merchant should be the spirit of the infant dragon sleeping within the moon who needs bloodscrip in order to hatch

indigo cipher
#

Is it going to be a notcart?

stark hazel
boreal pollen
thin crag
#

fun!

olive warren
#

Just a heads up, one of the pending items to be added after tonight is an enhancive combining service for 1mil bloodscrip. Details will come when I am getting ready to add it. There are also some other things for more magical classes being added. The auction has some unique stuff that will be for magical classes.

modest mauve
drifting hamlet
#

there is auction tonight too?

brazen glacier
#

you are ALL magical in my eyes

modest mauve
olive warren
#

Auction is September 2nd tentatively. It will be a smol one. Vry smol.

modest mauve
bleak crypt
#

Alsemer crushing it with the pins

modest mauve
brazen glacier
#

skol!

olive warren
#

Dett just dropped off the goods in Prime.

#

I'll be in Platinum shortly.

pallid axle
olive warren
#

Haha, the other stuff has been planned, I just need to word it right.

modest mauve
#

Any clues on what the surcharges look like?

drifting hamlet
#

tell us more about the enhancive combine?

olive warren
#

Closest formula for the surcharge is services x 40 in bloodscrip.

gaunt dagger
#

The other stuff will be on the wheelbarrow and 1m+ or somewhere else? (The more magical things)

olive warren
#

Yes.

rustic stag
#

Hey Wyrom, when will you be releasing the Jaeger for us to bid on? And is it a class 3, 4 or 5?

next magnet
#

I appreciate that they are all props to remind us of the fundamental artifice that underlies all of gemstone

#

truly all our weapons are props

gaunt dagger
#

Somewhat disappointed, and somewhat relieved that the mind wrack is so expensive. I was hanging on to bloodscrip in hopes it would go for the auction prices like the other listings, but now I guess I can finally get some ghezzy

  • Even the 10x T5 Sigil Staff w/ Mind Wrack was 500k at the last mania. (a striated charcoal grey scepter crowned with a low steel-caged obsidian grimalkin)
vale spear
#

much as I like enhancives, what would be even worth combining for 1m...

gaunt dagger
#

Things in Hoys shop

vale spear
#

not even those

green pewter
#

I dunno, with the ability to put accessories' stats pretty much everywhere, it's not so tough to max out all the stuff you care about.

gaunt dagger
#

It depends on the details of what "enhancive combining" means exactly.

turbid pelican
#

If your not +40 in every stat at this point are you even trying?

hybrid garden
#

SKs and MKs are technically enhancives...

vale spear
#

1m = 20 posters, you're almost universally better of just slapping what you want onto other enhancives, unless there is something in the combine rules to make 1m worth it

gaunt dagger
manic bone
#

Sacrifice that MK feat absorb/dispel runestaff onto something more manageable

that's the only thing my tired mind can see being worth 1m BS

drifting hamlet
#

oo 20 enhancives, i would like to combine 20 enhancives to 1

gaunt dagger
#

There are 10 stats, so you still have 10 slots for like, weapon, shield, CM, dodge

gaunt dagger
drifting hamlet
#

i thought 1m lets u combine your best 20 enhancives

vale spear
#

he's probably wearing 250k in gear

gaunt dagger
turbid pelican
#

sounds underwhelming, combine 20 enhancives though...

olive warren
#

The enhancive service is a lot of things, hence why it's not going out tonight. I'm also limited in characters for READ, heh.

drifting hamlet
#

wyrom save us from alastir

brazen glacier
#

when you make something into a bandolier - what properies are retained from the weapon used to make it? metal type? flares? enchant, player services? forging? the only requirement on the prop is no script

next magnet
#

just give him what he wants

bleak crypt
#

why use much words when few words do

gaunt dagger
modest mauve
olive warren
#

I am, I gave my words to Tivvy earlier.

turbid pelican
#

1mil isnt that much anyways, its like only 20 property slips

modest mauve
#

She'll keep 'em safe.

vale spear
#

where's Tivvy at

boreal pollen
#

its like 50 mailboxes

next magnet
#

will you take payment in mailboxes

haughty socket
#

we know pretty conclusively that 1m bs is only 3 mailboxes

drifting hamlet
#

i mean sk is 4 max what is wrong with 20 max for regular enhancives

modest mauve
next magnet
haughty socket
#

in a POST apocalypse world...

brazen glacier
#

bump for my bandolier questions above - looking for some more details

vale spear
#

all properties should remain except the script

pallid axle
olive warren
#

I forgot to add the harness, they're on there. Harness and relic are as is, no redeeming needed.

brazen glacier
boreal pollen
#

anyone have a link to info on the ODM gear/Jump jet ?

gaunt dagger
next magnet
#

wyrom posted about it during the silver auction, I think, when you fire it off it increases your effective height for maneuvers and things to the same as your enemy, so you can bonk gigases on the head

median echo
# 

When altering, keep in mind that the harness's messaging references large and small containers, and a row of weapon slots and straps.  These can all be altered by a skilled merchant.  The containers should remain plural.  Currently, they are set to slots (wands and small weapons), straps (belted weapons), a series of straps (back weapons), large sacks (bundled weapons), narrow tubes (paper and scrolls), small pouches (trinkets), and containers (anything else).

There are also a set of cylinders (gas) and grips (the trigger for the gas).

The harness have the following verbs:

  GET/PUT              - Stylized ways to get and put a number of different items inside.
  WEAR/REMOVE          - Stylized to work with cloud armors, ShadowDeath armor, and Mist armor.
  OPEN/CLOSE           - Stylized with your containers.
  POINT AT             - Launch into the air to gain the higher ground and be +1 foot higher.
  WAVE AT              - Give an intimidating look.
  SPIN                 - If you have a smoke sphere, it will use it.
  POSE                 - If you have a hidden bracer item, it will interact with that!
  RUB/TAP/TOUCH/BOW    - Show off a bit.
  PULL/PUSH/FOLD

You can tell that the harness is as light as it can get and that its pockets could not possibly get any deeper.**```analyze for those interested
gives you height +1 of the target
thin crag
#

I will say, if I did thrown...that would be the most amazing item ever

median echo
#

why thrown specifically? Seems like the height issue isn't actually an issue for thrown.

vale spear
#

yeah why would thrown need it? never had issue hitting things when I hurled

thin crag
#

OH I thought it was the self-made bandolier #lazyreading

vale spear
#

anyone throwing claidhmores yet?

turbid pelican
#

I wonder how many of the gear harnesses will sell.... I will have to duck in HW as squadrons of flying swingers glide above me.

median echo
#

was it ever mentioned if there will be teasers or a list for the auction?

boreal pollen
modest mauve
brazen glacier
vale spear
#

make sure it's a good one, 15x S6 E5 xaz-more

brazen glacier
#

Exactly!

vale spear
#

i wonder if you could take it out of the bando to do more work on it, that'd be neat if it supported removal

brazen glacier
#

the wiki isnt very clear on what all of the specific mechanics are for throwing though - it nebulous mentions things like "heavier weapons are harder to throw" but doesn't have the math as to what that means exactly

next cove
#

I've thrown a claid before. Not sure how the strength component works but if you strength is low you will get a back minor and end up kneeling after hurling. [That might have been a standard weight ~12 lb claid so I am not sure how much that also had to do with it]

brazen glacier
#

is there a detailed thrown weapon primer somewhere i can pour over?

vale spear
#

just go buy a few stock claidhs from an npc shop

gaunt dagger
#

Probably not, it's for rich people

brazen glacier
#

do the weapons in the bando count as being the base weight of normal weapons?

hot mesa
#

Pick something intended for hurling. Other things, like claids, or mauls, just aren't effective

next cove
#

Reduce it to max light. I think that may help when hurling

vale spear
#

I used to twc hurl but never tried hurling a claidh, makes me wish I did.

brazen glacier
#

what makes them ineffective kerl?

hot mesa
#

When it first came out, people got the bright idea to throw their mails etc. Changes were made to make it ineffective.

green pewter
vale spear
#

I seem to recall hearing a maul bando was made long ago?

hot mesa
#

You could try it, but historically it's been high RT and injuries.

brazen glacier
#

the wiki says there was brute, yes - i have very high strength, but no thrown skill, so not sure what my results will tell us

hybrid garden
#

Are we at 8 figures spent in Whale-Mart yet?

next cove
#

I think their is/was messaging about the weapon being unsuited or imbalanced for hurling? Its been a while since I tried

vale spear
#

Just fixskill into thrown and try it. If it doesn't work right, lighten the claidh to max light and try again.

brazen glacier
#

test server up? 😛

daring halo
#

I've thrown claidhs before, Wulfhen used to as well. Just need a decent ST bonus.

next magnet
#

The raider orcs still huck their two handed swords at you in vaalor, if players can’t do that that is NPC favoritism

vale spear
#

We can be beast mode now with asc and have 180 STR, so if someone wants to hurl claidh they might be able to make it work.

hot mesa
vale spear
#

twc hurl probably still beats it but claidh hurling would have huge style points

brazen glacier
#

where can i buy some to throw away again?

next cove
#

backshop landing weapon store

daring halo
# 
Your body protests with a twinge.  Better not do that again soon.
You take aim and throw a bone-hilted mithril claidhmore at a banded cave worm!
  AS: +488 vs DS: +402 with AvD: +28 + d100 roll: +49 = +163
   ... and hit for 64 points of damage!
   Gruesome slash opens the cave worm's forehead!
   Grey matter spills forth!
The worm rolls over and dies.
Lacking the force and angle to lodge in a banded cave worm, the mithril claidhmore simply falls.
[Use the RECOVER HURL command while in the appropriate room to regain your item.]
Roundtime: 10 sec.```
dim jasper
#

By the way... if anyone is on the fence about the pirate harness, as an ambusher I really like mine. Always hit heads

gaunt dagger
#

What's your STR bonus in that clip

hot mesa
#

10 seconds, but you be you. Could be interesting with celerity or tonis?

daring halo
#

50 ST bonus on that one, the first one had a meaner message about strain.

next cove
#

Well, I am going to need a clip of the claid getting stuck in the target.

gaunt dagger
#

They don't get stuck.

daring halo
#

They definitely changed it from the old days. It didn't take anywhere near that much ST bonus back then and the RT was standard. Used to use my bonded claidh to hurl regularly.

brazen glacier
#

do you have thrown skill?

daring halo
#

2xed, yes.

next cove
#

I hope so with that AS

brazen glacier
#

gotcha - so probably something weight based then if you have +50 strength bonus - because that much strength should take it to the min rt - according to the limited info on the wiki

next magnet
#

you'll have to hurl katanas instead

modest mauve
#

I hurl my spear in 3, no idea what the pros see.

sullen hollow
#

It's all fun and games until the critter picks up your weapon and swings it at you

modest mauve
#

I'm not sure that's even possible now that it ends up in HURL RECOVER. Mine's bonded, so it comes back, but maybe slower than a dedicated hurler would want.

daring halo
#

It has something to do with weapon base or grip for certain. My bastard sword hurls at 5 RT with no protest as a one handed grip and 8 seconds with protest as a two-handed grip.

hot mesa
#

There are so many great hurling suitable weapons out there. You could find a really nice axe, hammer, or spear and it would be pretty amazing. Unlike a strung weapon, you could probably put one in there with a script on it. I would check that first.

modest mauve
#

The bandolier says no scripts

next magnet
#

you can't put one in with a script, but it's true that there are a lot of nice hurlable weapons out there

vale spear
#

the upside of bando is you get to twc hurl with 1 weapon base

hot mesa
#

You could find one with 20+ CER weighting and a cool flare

eager cobalt
#

Can you swap weapons in the bandolier, or it's stuck once you put it in?

brazen glacier
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this isnt about nice throwable weapons that exist guys - this is about throwing an unlimited supply of 10x claidhmores - if there is some artificial penalty on throwing claihds, then the dream is dead

vale spear
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old bandos you couldn't swap weapons out or do any work on them except enchants, these new ones are probably the same unless they changed them

hybrid garden
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10x claidhmores? More like 15x daggers with 50 CER crit weighting so you have speed and power! 😄

brazen glacier
boreal pollen
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throw hand crossbows

daring halo
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heh, should take a severed limb from a creature and use it as a hurled blunt.

brazen glacier
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make playing card weapon base, ill throw those - i can be Gambit

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but yea this was honestly me just wanting unlimited hurling cliahdmores lol - and i wanted to see if that was something that was actually throwable - sounds like its not

hot mesa
empty lily
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What’s really the reason to hurl weapons anyway?

daring halo
brazen glacier
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Hmmm

hot mesa
empty lily
dim jasper
daring halo
# brazen glacier Hmmm

I wouldn't buy one to do that on speculation without some confirmation though. that's a lot of scrip to drop on a drawn out test.

gaunt dagger
vale spear
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That's pretty much the correct way, but people wanna try something new with these. Sadly probably old way is best way.

dim jasper
# empty lily Automatically raises your height? Or do you have to manually trigger it? 
An announcer shouts, "Round 10, send in a champion!"  An iron portcullis is raised and a gargantuan cyclops champion enters the arena!
>kill
You cannot aim that high!
>point my bandolier
>kill
You pull on the glistening onyx grips connected to the scorched vultite canisters on your charred leather bandolier, discharging some pressurized gas which sends you upward above a gargantuan cyclops champion!
You take aim and swing a vicious relic-bound spikestar at a gargantuan cyclops champion!
  AS: +773 vs DS: +438 with AvD: +33 + d100 roll: +4 = +372
   ... and hit for 143 points of damage!
   Mighty swing separates head from shoulders.
The cyclops champion falls to the ground and dies.
Roundtime: 5 sec.

The cool thing is that it's also a 1/100 pirate container, and you can customize it a lot:

When altering, keep in mind that the bandolier's messaging references large and small containers, and a row of weapon slots and straps.  These can all be altered by a skilled merchant.  The containers should remain plural.  Currently, they are set to singed sheaths (wands and small weapons), coiled ebon scabbards (belted weapons), a row of glistening onyx talons (back weapons), carbonized emerald-inlaid compartments (bundled weapons), small vultite cylinders (paper and scrolls), carbonized vultite cylinders (trinkets), and scorched vultite cylinders (anything else).

There are also a set of scorched vultite canisters (gas) and glistening onyx grips (the trigger for the gas).
modest mauve
# 
Your body protests with a twinge.  Better not do that again soon.
You throw a claidhmore at a Vvrael destroyer!
  AS: +443 vs DS: +358 with AvD: +19 + d100 roll: +76 = +180
   ... and hit for 45 points of damage!
   Crossing slash to chest catches the Vvrael destroyer's attention!
The claidhmore ricochets away from a Vvrael destroyer, landing nearby.
[Use the RECOVER HURL command while in the appropriate room to regain your item.]
Roundtime: 11 sec.```
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That's with 40/40 ascension strength

gaunt dagger
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What race - I think giant/dwarf get a bonus reduction. (or not lol)

modest mauve
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Me? Giant.

empty lily
dim jasper
modest mauve
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I think it takes you to +1 foot over the target, no matter where you start, yeah.

brazen glacier
boreal pollen
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idk if this is a good problem or a bad one, it was so fast i couldnt see if it was ticking resources or not each time
With deliberate brutality, you bring your spikestar around to pummel a behemothic gorefrost golem!
AS: +807 vs DS: +439 with AvD: +19 + d100 roll: +48 = +435
... and hit for 92 points of damage!
Well aimed strike shatters bone in left arm!
The coraesine relic on your xazkruvrixis spikestar flares up with a blazing white-grey aura! Vicious winds curl around you in a spiraling vortex, increasing your momentum as you let loose a lightning-quick strike!
You feel the unnatural surge of necrotic power wane away.
The coraesine relic on your xazkruvrixis spikestar flares up with a blazing white-grey aura! Vicious winds curl around you in a spiraling vortex, increasing your momentum as you let loose a lightning-quick strike!
The coraesine relic on your xazkruvrixis spikestar flares up with a blazing white-grey aura! Vicious winds curl around you in a spiraling vortex, increasing your momentum as you let loose a lightning-quick strike!
Roundtime: 1 sec.

vale spear
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hmm.

boreal pollen
next magnet
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what it's doing is definitely bad behavior -- I think xess bugged that a while ago

olive warren
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Yeah, some of it was fixed, but the relic working like that is likely outside the scope of what is intended.

boreal pollen
torpid shale
vale spear
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is it out yet

torpid shale
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Nope

manic bone
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Even a weightless lance hurts your arm to throw so I'm pretty sure it uses weapon base instead of actual weight

vale spear
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enhancive thing not dropping tonight?

drifting hamlet
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ikr wyrom had a day already

olive warren
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Oh no, the additional stuff probably not until Sunday night.

next cove
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Currently coraesine relic does not recieve reduction from 1213. Is that intended?

olive warren
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Yeah, the mana and stamina costs are tied directly to the scripted ability.

next cove
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Thanks for the clarification!

olive warren
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I think I found the issue with the relic. Should be working better now.

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But now I'm tired after that large plate of spaghetti.

drifting hamlet
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shouldn't rest after a full meal , you should do more work

sour raft
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And definitely don’t lay down, otherwise like me you could find yourself spitting up blood. Lesson here, wait three hours before a nap after eating folks. Getting old sucks.

thin crag
thin crag
warm viper
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that goes the same for ethereal strings and 1213 as well?

boreal pollen
dim jasper
boreal pollen
gaunt dagger
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7 attacks in 2 seconds at 800 AS. Pretty beefy!

amber hazel
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nerf wizards 😆

gaunt dagger
#

I think Whayle is a warrior

hot mesa
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Sarcasm is lost on some

hexed canopy
eager cobalt
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a ruby-studded whale figurine What better way to display your whaleness than with this amazing whale figurine! 10m BS. Offer good until the end of DR.

indigo cipher
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I still have my "blood-stained whale statue" from last EG. If I ever get a private property I'm putting it in for permanent addition

vale spear
boreal pollen
vale spear
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clerics need a boost, what are you talking about

amber hazel
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buff clerics

gaunt dagger
amber hazel
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ok

torpid shale
dim jasper
indigo cipher
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$5 on there actually being 2 or more ethereal string scripts

warm viper
dim jasper
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Not sure, but I would hope that if string does, relic would too 😉

vale spear
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can you have relic on string

gaunt dagger
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For 5m bs!

summer fiber
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#1139093815924379778 message

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Unfortunately, 1213 didn't reduce relic costs.

warm viper
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Ok so I can I combine the briar script with the cat themed fluff bell from the auction last march that gives you blood when you move?

warm viper
tropic monolith
warm viper
warped stump
fleet inlet
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do you still need to be level 100 to hold an item with death flares if it's not the death ore?

rain timber
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That’s a great question. I’d love to put a kroderine based shield on my rogue who isn’t 80 (assuming a similar restriction disappears)

next cove
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I have a runestaff with mindshatter flares; there is no level restriction on the staff as is with low steel. The restriction should be on material xaz/low steel and not the ability.

boreal pollen
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Oh man. Lvl 1 warrior with death flares sounds awesome

modest mauve
candid oxide
boreal pollen
median echo
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death flare makes them split off a clone

summer fiber
#

sounds almost like ... mogwai.

torpid shale
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Good ole quiet weekend before all the deets drop.

warped stump
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Need some info on the enhancive combining before booklets are no longer on sale

vale spear
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when is the last day for booklets?

modest mauve
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Aug 30, 11:55pm #duskruin message

next magnet
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wyrom suggested earlier that additional stuff wouldn't be coming until sunday

final palm
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30 minutes then. cooldoge

median echo
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it's still saturday until he sleeps. Might be a Monday release for the rest of us

torpid shale
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I bet you can take one or more enhansive properties. And smoosh em together

eager cobalt
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I hope it lets me combine my hopes and dreams into a real enhancive

mortal ledge
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Maybe you can combine multiple enhancives (possibly more than 2?) into a single uber enhancive

narrow stump
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I bet it combines every enhancive you are wearing into a single item (a belly gem). But wearing that item makes you appear like a beached whale, and hides all other description effects.

vale spear
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You see Azanoth. He appears to be a bloated whale.

brazen glacier
#

You see Azanoth. He appears to be...

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warm viper
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Can someone please make ghezyte and all debuff flares pre-swing resolution, please and thank you

dusky blaze
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👆 I like this idea very much

oblique otter
torpid shale
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It’s Sunday!!

fleet inlet
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do you still need to be level 100 to hold an item with death flares if it's not the death ore?

next cove
warped stump
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The material has the level requirement, not the flare

torpid shale
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Big event is happening after the box office closes. So make sure you have the BS you desire!

viscid bolt
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I thought the auction was going to be very small?

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Is there going to be stuff, other than the auction, to spend scrip on?

proven trail
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There's the gameshow/mania. I don't think there's been any information about numbers or how it works, though.

indigo cipher
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It was pretty implied that shenanigans shouldn't need you to come with Whalebarrow levels of scrip though

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and the auction will be smol, but it will have properties, so you could easily see 500k - 1.5m going on those

proven trail
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It was not clear to me whether we're gambling with the scrip or competing for the chance to spend scrip. And the auction is the stuff that's too unique for the lunar whale, so it could be all over the place.

dim jasper
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It’s not the size of the auction but how you use it