#[Official] Hinterwilds

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cyan lynx
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Like I said...

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There was a messaging bug that was telling you that it was giving you 30 seconds of roundtime when instead it was giving you immobilization.

hasty garnet
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But, it is giving me both -- I dont mean to be obtuse (and I appreciate you looking into it) but this attack gives me 30s of RT in addition to the immobility

cyan lynx
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How it works is as follows:

Minor failures result in roundtime or fleeing
Major failures result in immobilization
If you're already immobilized, you'll get roundtime instead

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The bug is that it was messaging you receiving roundtime when you weren't receiving roundtime.

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And not messaging the roundtime when you were.

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So it would have made it difficult to track.

hasty garnet
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A savage fork-tongued wendigo crooks an oddly elongated finger at you!
  CS: +441 - TD: +310 + CvA: -21 + d100: +64 - -5 == +179
  Warding failed!
  You feel a sudden inexplicable fear!
  You freeze, unable to control the wave of fear that swells within you!
I>w
You don't seem to be able to move to do that.``` Ok I spent a literal half hour trying to get a wendigo alone to fear me and... yes it looks like you are right, I did not get fear and roundtime here. I suppose in previous instances I was stunned or immobilized or something before the fear hit. Next time I see the 30s pop up I'll check to see if I was already frozen. Thanks for indulging me
stuck blade
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As the cold wyrm passes overhead, your thoughts dissolve in a wash of colors and alien emotions, rendering you senseless!```
I feel like this round time should be avoidable after you kill the wyrm a few times or with training.  100 telepathy lore should make you highly resistant to this type of mental assault or a really high discipline bonus should do the same.
cyan lynx
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Current wyrms aren't where they'll be once I get out of my backlog of code.

fair comet
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encouraging to hear that - hope to get back to wyrm hunting

calm flint
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he's gotta finish fishing here first, sorry everyone 😛

stuck blade
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A niveous giant warg lunges at you, maw slathering as it tries to take a ferocious bite!
A nebulous grey latticework springs up from the surface of your rusalkoren platemail and shields you from some of the damage!
A suit of stygian rusalkoren platemail suffused with erratic caligninous whorls of azure partially deflects the onslaught of the slashing attack.
  AS: +580 vs DS: +374 with AvD: +7 + d100 roll: +69 = +282
   ... and hits for 57 points of damage!
   Deft slash to your left leg digs deep!
   Bone is chipped!
   You are stunned for 3 rounds!```
Got me good on this one =p
cyan lynx
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Oof.

wraith wave
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Controversial take even though I hunt other zones over HW. I believe the bonus to bounties should remain only in HW just due to the management required to get there and back somewhat reasonably.

cyan lynx
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That's not in line with what we promised.

pliant hatch
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This is just my personal experience but getting in and out of Hinterwilds via the gigas fragments is really not especially arduous to manage. Maybe if you insist on doing it before and after every hunt, but that’s likely not intended. Happy to see the ASC bounty rewards extended to the other relevant zones

tribal quarry
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Heh, Moonsedge already pays the price of having horrendous loot due to its accessibility and the Hive pays the price of being in Zul.

calm flint
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Yeah, Zul is usually harder for me to get to TBH

hasty garnet
sharp raptor
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The sound of great wings encroaches upon your hearing as a feminine figure soars overhead, golden and glowing. The disir alights next to you, a stern look hardening her implacable features. With a single shake of her head, she gathers your body into her arms and rises on wings of many colors. Vague suggestions of shapes whirl past in a wild blur, but you are safe and your spirit is at peace. At last, the disir descends. She is silent as she deposits you on cold, hard ground before departing in a flash of honeyed radiance.
I love that messaging so much. Anyone want to sell me some decay jewelry so I can try to get it altered to capture its essence when departing?

blazing fable
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What is that messaging from?

cyan lynx
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Disir's Radiance.

azure mantle
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I just saw someone say you can be sympathized while berserking now?

sharp raptor
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It basically turns off friendly flags for mstrike berserk while you're under the influence (PCs can be one of your random targets)

azure mantle
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I never remember being sympathy’s while berserking?

sharp raptor
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I was... a lot. 😄 I dropped a lot of fellow wyrmhunters that way.
Funny enough... even you dropped Myharl once with a death flare when sympathied by the wyrm. 😄

azure mantle
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Oh o remember that.

tough anvil
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First time I've seen this one-- pretty cool!
A squamous reptilian mutant's cranium pulses, his eyes narrowing to luminous slits as he focuses intently upon you!
CS: +401 - TD: +307 + CvA: -16 + d100: +98 == +176
Warding failed!
An invisible, inexorable force grips you by the ribs, lifting you from the ground and hurling you at Adalfuns!
... 10 points of damage!
Bones in left arm crack.
... 18 points of damage!
Throat nearly crushed. Adalfuns makes gurgling noises.
He is stunned!
Roundtime: 20 sec.
Roundtime changed to 17 seconds.

lime knot
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that's pretty fun. i thought that was levitate at first (from the savant circle) but it appears to be a special spell for them. i've never been hit by it with other people in the room actually so neat to see it's actually got another effect. i would say at first i thought it was just mental 110 but, i guess after the change to make 110 hit two targets it still is 😄

tough anvil
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What a lush: A silver-scaled cold wyrm just went into a charred mead hall.

hoary temple
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do gigas fragments expire? I had 15 and don't remember dying recently... but could be wrong I suppose

shy torrent
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You lose them when you decay

hoary temple
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yeah just don't recall doing that lately

opal pine
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And you didn't make any purchases? travel via the sliver?

hoary temple
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I stay on KF for the most part

hoary temple
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oh well nbd - i'm here now and will get more

hoary temple
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up to 20 - it's a good day

pliant hatch
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The Hinterwilds NPCs have gone missing due to the crash, any chance we can get them back? Can they ever just be... normal NPCs that don't disappear after a restart? Lol I can't even gigas fragment out of here to hunt Moonsedge without the NPCs around... huge L.

hoary temple
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there was a crash? They were there 12 hours ago

pliant hatch
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They're back now, Vanah restored them - crash was about an hour ago. Game wasn't down long

hoary temple
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ahh cool 🙂

tribal quarry
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So... in TITLE LIST SKILL, some mysterious new titles have appeared, though I can't actually use any of them:

Star-Evoker (my wizards)
Star-Spear (my monks and warrior)```
Is this Hinterwilds related? Gemstones? Defeating the wyrm? 👀
opal pine
tribal quarry
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...oh. Well, that's much less exciting. But also, why do I see it when I have no forest gnomes? 🤣

opal pine
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It's trying to tell you to fixrace to the correct one 😆

tribal quarry
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Tried to fake the game out with 1212. No luck. 🤣

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hasty garnet
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in case anyone was wondering, a battle standard will take you to Icemule

tribal quarry
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Yeah, been saying this since test server days: they go farther than people might expect.

You can also jump from the Rift to Icemule or from the Sanctum of Scales to Solhaven. It's not DEPART CONFIRM rules or BESEECH TELEPORT (cleric Miracle) rules, but its own new thing.

hasty garnet
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You tap a bundle of undansormr scaless

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You carefully add your undansormr scales to your bundle of undansormr scaless inside your doeskin bag. sseemss like it'ss just the bundless

pliant hatch
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I bugged that two years ago lol

hoary temple
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plural of scales is scaless duh

hasty garnet
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You're sso right Dessorcceri I'm ssorry. Also concerning that I never noticed yet

earnest spire
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[SMR result: 103 (Open d100: 72)]
   ... 60 points of damage!
   Flame engulfs back: Jaired flambe!```
chilly valve
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I bet if you had KEEN EYES you would have lived....

earnest spire
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Oo maybe

cyan lynx
opal pine
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pre-existing what?

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It's definitely not fixed, my skins are less than an hour old:

a bundle of undansormr scaless

sharp raptor
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I have started adding info for the wyrm to the wiki. If anyone has additional details, that would be helpful!
https://gswiki.play.net/silver-scaled_cold_wyrm

Anyone have the DESC of the wyrm (if not I'll just snag it the next time I see one land)? Also, the messaging related to the effect that happens when 6+ characters engage it? I know seen both several times, but with the hundreds of times I've engaged the wryms, I just can't seem to track it down in my logs.

cyan lynx
pliant hatch
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I think it might relate to the scripted skin bags we use. Those bags might be appending the s on to everything. So since the undansormr scales start out plural it gets silly

pliant hatch
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>
[eloot]>_drag #6415966 #6415965
You wipe off the blade and sheathe the shadowed steel stiletto into one of the narrow scabbards along the side of your grey wolf fur satchel.
[eloot]>loot #7001802
You search the boreal undansormr.
It didn't carry any silver.
It had nothing of interest.
The undansormr's long, wormlike body collapses in upon itself, shedding scales and oozing fluids as the undansormr surrenders to decay.
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[eloot]>loot room
You carefully add your undansormr scales to your bundle of undansormr scaless inside your grey wolf fur satchel.```They become `scaless` when they go into my satchel
hasty garnet
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shelfae will quake in fear shortly

cyan lynx
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Ugh.

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I did fix BUNDLE, but wasn't tracking some random script.

pliant hatch
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Would it be helpful if I load some scales into my satchel and BUGITEM it so you have something to work with script-wise?

opal pine
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Hah, good call Yndrael. It hadn't occurred to me that the scripted container might be doing it's own bundling

lime knot
azure mantle
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lol

cyan lynx
pliant hatch
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I may not get to play again before tomorrow morning but I’ll do that bug whenever I am in game next

opal pine
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bugitem scaless;Bugging the overly plural scales, possibly caused by auto bundling container. Will bug it as well.
Submitted bug regarding a bundle of undansormr scaless to play.net's bug tracking database with these details:
"Bugging the overly plural scales, possibly caused by auto bundling container. Will bug it as well."
sat scale
The undansormr scaless are already a bundle. You carefully place a bundle of undansormr scaless inside your grey wolf fur satchel, making sure not to ruin the bundle.
rem sat
You carefully remove the grey wolf fur satchel, making sure not to damage the contents in the process.
bugitem satchel;Followup bug report for the auto bundling container that may be producing overly plural undansormr scales
Submitted bug regarding a shaggy dark grey wolf fur satchel to play.net's bug tracking database with these details:
"Followup bug report for the auto bundling container that may be producing overly plural undansormr scales"

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Feel free to give Yndrael the xp/fame, just wanted to assist with the bugitems

pliant hatch
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I’m ok not getting the riches. Thanks for doing the bugitems!

strong raft
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Looks like the update to the scales had an unintended side affect. I hoarded a bunch of undansormr scales and even those that appraise for 6k+ cannot be sold to complete a furrier bounty

sharp raptor
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Here's something sort of interesting. I have now filled up and lockered bottles of every gem (except one) that can be found in the Hinterwilds (not counting swirling quicksilver orbs, of which I'll only ever have half a bottle of since they were discontinued). The outlying gem is a large piece of mica of which I've only found one example off while hunting in the Hinterwilds. Which was found on 01/22/24 in a a badly damaged maoral trunk (along with 3,085 silvers, a stark white snowstone, and an aquamarine wand) which was found on a halfling bloodspeaker at Hinterwilds, Issenflow Banks L#29886.

Seems odd to have found only one out of probably 10,000+ gems collected in the process. Ended up just buying some to fill the jar, but was intrigued by the anomaly.

hasty garnet
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Hmm I swear I've found large pieces of mica up there before recently ( was on a mission to find all the hunks and chunks and pieces that could be improved via lapidary boxes)

sharp raptor
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Outside of that, it seems that milky blue chalcedonies were the rarest... even more so than swirling silver orbs.

sharp raptor
abstract umbra
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The cheap gems seem harder to find in HW in general.

frosty junco
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Mica might only drop from boxes in HW. I just pulled one out of a HW box this afternoon, after reading your note. I don’t think they’re super rare though (certainly not super valuable, heh!)

stuck blade
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She appears to be dead.
She has severe head trauma and bleeding from her ears, snapped bones and serious bleeding from her neck, a completely severed right arm, a completely severed left arm, a completely severed right leg, a completely severed left leg, a completely severed right hand, a completely severed left hand, deep gashes and serious bleeding from her chest, deep gashes and serious bleeding from her abdomen, deep gashes and serious bleeding from her back, a blinded right eye, a blinded left eye and a case of uncontrollable convulsions.```

That's a mess.
azure mantle
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RIP

frosty junco
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QOL request for Hinterwilds - can we please make the duration of the frostling ward and the wildfire oil from the alchemist refreshable. It’s not fun to have to time hunts around the 15/20 minute timers. Let me spend my giga fragments!

sharp raptor
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@wide hawk Re your question here: #icemule-trace message

Training wise```

If you stick to the Boreal Forest and avoid packs of wargs, you can hunt there pre-cap (I'd say 90's) without too many problems. Beyond that you're most important factor will most likely be assuring you have your full bonus against Sheer Fear as north of the Boreal forest frequently spawns ascended undead (post level 100 up to 120, 121 if someone spawns a grizzeld disir or spawns a spectral packmother). Won't matter on your training if you're on your knees and stupefied. S5 sanctification on your offensive and defensive gear is a solution to help mitigate this.  If lower level and hunting in the Boreal Forest, I recommend sticking near to the Glade as it's a spot that's safe from creatures. It will allow you a place to take cover and recoup in a pinch. The gale hits pretty hard and the sleet and ice will start to wear you down quickly as hypothermia sets in (there are ways around that). As a side note, if you do Adventure Guild tasks, you may run into problems pre-cap.

Ultimately the HW is intended as a post-cap hunting ground, and it's probably going to be brutal pre-cap, but if you want to hit it before then, hope that helps. I'm sure others can chime in with helpful info as well.
wide hawk
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Thank you. Didn't realize there was a sub. I'm at 25m so probably have most things covered. Wamted to make sure I didn't need a set of resistance gear or something

sharp raptor
wide hawk
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I'm also not voln. So killing things that weren't undead seemed like a plus

hasty garnet
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I did extensive overhunting.. wait are you saying you have 25m exp? 👀 Just went hard on Ascension? What profession?

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I'd say "easiest" to hardest would be like cannibals, hinterboars, blood speakers, golems, wendigoes, then from the next area where things often wander in, berserkers, mastodons, shield maidens, skalds, wargs. But ultimately depends on how good your crowd control is, and professions etc. maneuvers and cs/td will chew you up just from being lower level,so it's how best you can avoid/mitigate those

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Also worth mentioning you won't be able to get any bounties up there until you are 100

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Usually what will happen is that you'll get stun/RT lock and plinked down, so at lower levels do your best to avoid groups

opal pine
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Cannibals can be dangerous for pures. Of the forest creatures, they account for the most deaths for me.

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(but I wouldn't expect 3x+ cap to have any issues)

wide hawk
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@hasty garnet 25m of regular xp. No ascension yet, still have things to complete. Sorcerer. I just heard it was hard and avoided it, but now I'm feeling froggy and ready to cash in some deeds.

hasty garnet
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ohhh yeah I read this as "how far under 100 can I be" so yeah forget everything Im sure you'll be just fine

junior linden
stuck blade
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You can get some nasty stuns from the environmental cold that will lead to death. As you kill mobs you'll earn gigas fragments and can purchase a 15 min immunity to the environmental cold. If you're looking to mitigate potential deaths it's good to have.

junior linden
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If you get eaten by an ooze don't you need a blunt weapon to attack its innards?

earnest spire
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It just has to be a weapon that can inflict crush damage

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A falchion will work, for example.

junior linden
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But a longbow doesn't work and it acts like a quaterstaff when meleed and the quarterstaff only has crush

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"You strike at the amorphous organ with your ghezyte long bow, but the spongey amorphous organ is impervious to this kind of attack!"

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kinda seems like a bug

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shy torrent
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I wonder if the cannibals will get rogue poison on their little daggers

stuck blade
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Auchand, I have 95 summoning lore and 40 minor spirit but 130 keeps depositing me at the entrance to the long snows rather than cold river village quite a bit. Any chance you could review 130 landing points to make sure the weighting is correct? Just seems like with the amount of lore I have I should be hitting the best landing location more often than not.

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abstract umbra
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Hmm. At least 50% of the time I use it I land in the village

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Maybe it’s because I always go say hello to Bishop and give him a hug!!

stuck blade
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130 is a bit weird with its training and I know I'm not trained for 100% of the time landing on location zero but for my amount of training it seems like I haven't been very accurate. Could be a poor RNG streak

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calm flint
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If you get enough ranks it takes you to the VIP fishing bank

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cedar charm
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Last two days in HW I've found (2) separate Dragon Type Sculptures. One was on a table in the mead hall and another on the altar. I left them where they lay but that are lootable. My guess is another PC is leaving them there as some sort of tribute to the Wyrm...but not sure. Any ideas?

fair comet
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haha, when that happened to me turned out Myharl did it

cedar charm
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That was my guess too

earnest pagoda
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How do Warrior and Rogues do in HW? What are the best Class to run there. Assuming they are ruffly 2x Cap

stuck blade
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Streamers of aureate light trail after a shining metallic spear as a shining winged disir swings it down at you!
A suit of stygian rusalkoren platemail suffused with erratic caligninous whorls of azure partially deflects the onslaught of the puncture attack.
  AS: +654 vs DS: +475 with AvD: +32 + d100 roll: +77 = +288
   ... and hits for 59 points of damage!
   Loud *crack* as your sternum breaks!
   You are stunned for 2 rounds!
Your rusalkoren platemail flashes red and you suddenly feel enraged!```
Think that's the biggest hit I've had for a rage armor boost. Good ole disir
hasty garnet
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hasty garnet
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yup that is(was) me as well, KS and carn's cry makes it possible (if not a bit dangerous)

livid temple
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I started in HW as a KS rogue as soon as I capped. It's doable for sure

ashen tapir
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I'm terribly overcapped and I find the opening area to be one of the most dangerous as a sorcerer because of ambush. More of my injuries occur when running back to town over encumbered and getting taken out by cannibal

pliant hatch
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Have you considered having more DS?

stuck blade
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Why would you run to town when you could just 130?

opal pine
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Because 130 doesn’t always go to town!

pliant hatch
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130 is pretty bad in Hinterwilds. I use Sym Return (Voln Life)

shy torrent
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idk i feel bad for those hobbits, they jump out and do 1 damage

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  AS: +484 vs DS: +417 with AvD: -18 + d100 roll: +99 = +148
   ... and hits for 1 point of damage!
   Attack bumps an eyebrow.
  That was far too close!
The ethereal necrotic film covering a bloody halfling cannibal's obsidian dagger shrivels away.```
sharp raptor
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I am still in the process of gathering known lore and observed behavior of the wyrms and adding it to the wiki page I created to detail them. The following lifecycle details are observational based on room paintings, but I believe it to be an accurate account. If anyone spots anything incorrect or misleading, please let me know. Thanks!

||The burrow beneath Angargreft seems to have once been a treasury of the Gigas, but in its ruin the locale has become a metamorphosis lair for cold wyrms. Within the semi-sheltered halls of the burrow, the colossal boreal undansormrs cocoon themselves for a time in acrid chrysalides of slimy wormsilk secreted from the larval wyrm's acidic glands. Wormsilk is an acidic oobleck substance, similar to the strand-like webs sometimes expelled by undansormrs to trap their prey. Wormsilk bears heavy and persistent musky odor and presents a phosphorescence that provides dim illumination throughout the burrow. Its corrosive nature has caused substantial damage to most of the stone structure beneath Angargreft.

Juvenile cold wyrms often return to this lair during ecdysis. As the wyrmlings outgrow their scales, they leave behind brittle grey husks which are eventually dissolved by the surrounding wormsilk.||

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Just setting the clock for those who are also joining up to hunt after the wyrms... One just landed in Eldurhaart at 2:15 PM Elven, so the next should be appearing to hunt around 8:00-8:30 PM Elven Time.

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There's something I wanted to try. I noticed that the gigas use obsidian to hunt the wyrms. I would like to try to do the same. The only obsidian weapon I have is a dagger, and when I attempt to use it to attack the wyrm I get...
You swing the translucent dagger at the wyrm, but it has no effect!
Which seems weird to me. I've never tried using a dagger against a wyrm... maybe it's to small of a blade to pierce its scales? Need to find a bigger obsidian weapon to give it a shot.

Edit: got an obsidian blade today. If I can catch the wyrm this evening, I'll test it's edge against her.

sharp raptor
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Hmm... Something weird going on with the wyrm spawn timer? Used to be like clockwork between 6 and 6.5 hours. Fought the one this afternoon at 2:15 PM, and have been waiting in the Hinterwilds for over 1.5 hours for one to spawn, but nothing so far. Edit: ended up giving up after 2 hours and just took my hunting group back south. 😄

hasty garnet
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It's here now

sharp raptor
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Well, bummer. I'm out sailing now. I'll try to catch it in the morning.

sharp raptor
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Huh. Interesting.... so wyrms seem to be immune to obsidian, no matter what the weapon size? Attacking them with it has no effect. If they're immune to one material, maybe they are susceptible to another. Time for a bit of experimenting! Edit: Hrm... bone didn't seem to work either. Now I'm curious if it's based on enchant or another factor.... or maybe damage type. I typically hunt them using a bastard sword with crushing damage. Anyone else ever fight them with a slashing weapon (both my test weapons that failed were slashing)?

Side note: spawn timer on these wyrms seems to be 8 hours, rather than the 6 it used to be. Will confirm if another shows up at 2:15 PM EST.

You swing the obsidian broadsword at the wyrm, but it has no effect! You swing the yellowed bone falchion at the wyrm, but it has no effect!

earnest spire
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I've used falchions, daggers, katanas, katars, and throwing nets. My guess is it just needs to be enchanted/magic. Lots of creatures are like that already

sharp raptor
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Thanks! That saves me a bunch of time with testing. I'll confirm next run and if a magic weapon can hit it with non-magical identical counterpart, then I can add that to the combat details.

earnest spire
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My guess is the Gigas were enchanting their obsidian weapons. Try putting the alchemist's weapon fire on obsidian?

earnest spire
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Or have a bored wizard enchant one for science

opal pine
fair comet
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0 to +1 doesn't cost essence, so no problem

earnest spire
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If this works we gonna all be decked out like we're taking on some whitewalkers

lime knot
sharp raptor
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I ended up oversleeping the predicted mark for spawning. Anyone know about what time the wyrm showed up this afternoon by chance? Just for kicks I'll grab a few obsidian weapons today and try the alchemist fire and see if I can find a wizard to drop a +1 on one. It's most likely a reach, but curious how much of the environs might play into lore and lending hints.

sharp raptor
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Magical obsidian obtained. Now I just need a wyrm. Seems to not be on any sort of logical schedule anymore.
Waited from 9:30-12:30 ET with no luck, will give it a shot again tomorrow.

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sharp raptor
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Wyrm showed up this morning about 5:35 AM ET. Getting +1 to the my obsidian dagger (making it magical) did allow me to attack the wyrm with it, but nothing special. Figured it was worth a shot seeing as some gigas opted to use obsidian despite having capable forges.

  AS: +633 vs DS: +556 with AvD: -18 + d100 roll: +75 = +134
   ... and hit for 3 points of damage!``` I'll add the immune to non-magical attacks to the combat info on the wiki.
earnest spire
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It was a cool thought, but at least we learned something.

chilly valve
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Are the ambushing halflings puncture or slash? I was thinking about getting some resistance just for them since those bastards can hit me with pushdown

sharp raptor
chilly valve
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It will probably also help with the Wyrm, 800 AS mstrike slashing claws 😢... or is a puncturing bites? or crushing tail? lol

sharp raptor
chilly valve
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ouch, looks like i need ~40% warrior crush and then 15+ ascension slash/puncture

opal pine
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Daggers are 66% puncture

lime knot
opal pine
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You also see a brawny gigas shield-maiden, a heavily armored battle mastodon, a tattooed gigas berserker, a heavily armored battle mastodon, a tattooed gigas berserker, a niveous giant warg, a tattooed gigas berserker, a heavily armored battle mastodon, a brawny gigas shield-maiden and a tattooed gigas berserker.
🤤
FOR THE SWARM!

cedar charm
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BERSERK!

sharp raptor
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Awesome news about the wyrm in the Simucon panels! Wanted to throw another suggestion out there. When the ballista/harpoons are released to allow characters pull down the wyrms from the skies, is there any way we can increase the frequency of spawning? I know the wyrm isn't intended as a solo run (of all my hundreds of solo attempts, I only ever pulled off a couple dozen victories), but the 6-8 hour wait between spawning makes it almost impossible to plan any sort of group hunt. I spent months trying to organize wyrm hunts with groups, and folks just don't want to sit around waiting all day.

Edit: or alternative, an actual schedule that folks can plan around. Though that feels less organic. But asking 4-5 folks to linger around for half the day ready to dive into intense combat with like a 5 minute warning just doesn't seem to work.

ashen tapir
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Maybe a cool down followed by a summon, so if it's been x number hours you can gather a group and summon it @sharp raptor

shy torrent
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there will be a signficantly high volume at the open, remember the rope when the Elven Nations opened? I like the summon idea

sharp raptor
# ashen tapir Maybe a cool down followed by a summon, so if it's been x number hours you can g...

Yeah! Or, I was even thinking maybe what if the messaging of having them fly over could be hourly (the point when you can pay fragments to pull one), but it wouldn't be until one is provoked that it goes into the "monster bold" warnings. That way folks can find a wyrm if they want to pull one, but the frequency of the landing cycle won't be annoying for those not interested. Would also make their presence feel like it has more of a footprint in the Hinterwilds to see one just flying overhead every hour or so.

sharp raptor
# shy torrent there will be a signficantly high volume at the open, remember the rope when the...

A massive warhorn near the bier in Berserker's End. Sounds like an angry wyrm when you blow into it. 😄 ⚔️

It suppose it could also be like a quasi-instance sort of like the other major encounter in the HW, though I'm kind of partial to the idea of it just tearing through the wilds in a rampage when it is around. It just makes it feel more like a real danger/threat, whereas the other, while challenging, just doesn't feel as if it threatens the environs (even if it's easier to plan around).

sullen owl
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@sharp raptor I want to join your group of wyrm hunters.

sharp raptor
#

Speaking of which, I was pondering starting a weekly schedule ||sybil || hunt. Group can't be bigger than five, but I have a pretty big stash of all the items needed to do so. Would folks be interested in that?

sharp raptor
sullen owl
#

I’m also wondering would it be worth trying to taunt the wyrm to hit one guy(with high DS)while a couple others attack?

sharp raptor
sullen owl
#

I know @harsh solar is game too join too we have talked about using him as bait before

sharp raptor
#

Yeah, Taulramil mentioned wanting to get a group together as well, totally on board for that. I think he's likely running into the same problems I did with trying to bring it all together. The long wait, player-availability, etc.

harsh solar
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I do

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i'll be bait but when i kill it don't get jelly

sharp raptor
#

Around 12:20 ET a wyrm landed in Eldurhaart, so it will probably be somewhere between 6-8 ET when the next shows up today. (edit: got my timzones backwards)

sharp raptor
#

(sad panda sounds)
If you use an auto-bundling satchel and have been collecting the Packmother's hides like I have, be sure not to put her pelt into the bundler if you have other warg hides in there as it will be auto-bundled with those and become a standard warg pelt. Found out the hard way today.

earnest spire
#

Oof

earnest spire
timid shuttle
#

Whatcha all carry on FA and survival to skin well?

stuck blade
#

Skins [15]: an alabaster warg pelt (14)

opal pine
# 
>sym return
>;go2 tent```
YOU HAVE NOT YET BEEN BALANCED, FIEND. I AWAY!
sharp raptor
#

We had a pretty good run at it this evening. ⚔️ Hope to finally take this new one down next run. We'll see!

sharp raptor
marsh canyon
#

Summon with a warhorn? I assumed we'd be sacrificing virgins. Maybe they couldn't find any.

sharp raptor
stuck blade
fair comet
sharp raptor
# fair comet What’s the current strat?

My current plan/recommendation is a team-based approach. 1) I open with a tackle then lock the wyrm down by spamming symbol of sleep for the duration of the encounter, 2) someone focuses on dealing DOT and mass damage to the wyrm, 3) a third person manages any swarming mobs to keep me from getting hung up in RT and breaking the wyrm's sleep (focusing on the wyrm if there are no mobs). From experience we did pretty good this run, but need to make sure someone is managing the mobs. When I get hit with something that pops RT, the wyrm get's loose.

fair comet
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ah symbol of sleep - the only thing more powerful than the wyrm 🙂

sharp raptor
# fair comet ah symbol of sleep - the only thing more powerful than the wyrm 🙂

lol. Right!? As it is the wyrm is almost unfightable, I'm all but convinced it's unbeatable with a direct approach by anyone except maybe someone sporting $20k worth of gear, so have to find way around what's causing that. Locking it down the way it locks everyone else down seems to be the only viable path I've found so far.

hasty garnet
chilly valve
#

||what drops the tiny cobalt blue spheres?||

calm flint
hasty garnet
#

Wyrm sighted at 11:50 EST @sharp raptor

sharp raptor
# hasty garnet Wyrm sighted at 11:50 EST <@669104254623154176>

Thank you! 12:20 PM, 8:10 PM , 4:00 AM, 11:50 AM (7 hours and 50 minutes between each, so that must be the new timer the wyrm is set on).
Assuming that's consistent, the next one to take to wing should be at 8:40 PM ET.
If the pattern remains consistent for awhile, I'll update the wyrm's wiki page to reflect that. I'm assuming that it's relative to an initial spawn time after any game restart.

sharp raptor
stuck blade
# 
Writhing, milky tentacles burst forth from the tortured spatial anomaly, grasping blindly through the areas they glisten with vile humors.
[SMR result: 158 (Open d100: 75)]
With an agonizing crunch, a cold tentacle wraps around your abdomen and constricts violently as it whips you back toward the void!
   ... 1 point of damage!
Your rusalkoren platemail flashes red and you suddenly feel enraged!
   Attempt to snare hips shaken loose.
Though you fall free from the predatory limbs, the tumultuous energies of the spatial anomaly tear at you, warping your flesh!
   ... 23 points of damage!
   Your stomach muscles explode violently.
   You are stunned for 5 rounds!
Roundtime: 20 sec.```
Taking hits like a champ
sharp raptor
#

Wyrm is incoming! It just landed in Fjallarhaart. I'm in village center if anyone wants to join for a hunt.

hasty garnet
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what do you do if you get a hand blown off and then sucked into an ooze so you literally cannot do anything? Asking for a friend

#

well that was stupid a comedy of errors

sharp raptor
# hasty garnet well that was ~~stupid~~ a comedy of errors

Become dinner. Yeah, it can be a pain for sure. The other option is to put out a call for help, let folks know about where you were and hope someone can kill it before you die. When it dies, you get spit out. I used to be on ooze rescue call when we had the grizzled ooze swarms overtake the Hinterwilds. If I'm out and about up there and hear a though about it, I'll try to help anyone out stuck in one.

marsh canyon
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beseech used to get you out of those. I'm not sure what the value of beseech is anymore if it doesn't do anything that symbol of return doesn't already do.

sharp raptor
#

WyrmwatchCURRENT OBSERVATION: Every 8 hours +/- 10 minutes.

Day   La Lo  Date         Arrival (Time Between)   Location         Weather
Sun          8/11/2024    12:20 PM EST (N/A)       Eldurhaart       ??
Sun   XG XG  8/11/2024    8:10 PM EST (7h, 50m)    Eldurhaart       ??
Mon   XG XG  8/12/2024    4:00 AM EST (7h, 50m)    Boreal Forest    ??
Mon   XG XG  8/12/2024    11:50 AM EST (7h, 50m)   ???              ??
Mon    F XG  8/12/2024    7:40 PM EST (7h, 50m)    Fjallarhaart     ??
Tue    F XG  8/13/2024    3:50 AM EST (8h, 10m)    Boreal Forest    ??
Tue   NG XG  8/13/2024    11:50 AM EST (8h, 0m)    Ojandhaart       ??
Tue   NG XG  8/13/2024    7:40 PM EST (7h, 50m)    Angargreft       Clear Skies
Wed   NG XG  8/14/2024    3:50 AM EST (8h, 10m)    Boreal Forest    Clear Skies
Wed   NG XG  8/14/2024    11:50 AM EST (8h, 0m)    Ojandhaart       Blizzard 
Wed   3Q  F  8/14/2024    7:40 PM EST (7h, 50m)    Boreal Forest    Blizzard
Thr   NC  F  8/15/2024    3:30 AM EST (7h, 50m)    Boreal Forest    Blizzard
Thr   NC  F  8/15/2024    11:30 AM EST (8h, 0m)    Eldurhaart       Blizzard
Thr   NC  F  8/15/2024    7:30 PM EST (8h, 0m)     Boreal Forest    Clear Skies

Edit: And, with that I feel fairly confident in saying the wyrm spawn times are generated with three random variants: every 470, 480, or 490 minutes. I don't think anything else is affecting it. Means creating a long-term forecast for hunting is probably impossible, but once you see a wyrm take to wing, you can know within a 20-minute margin when the next one will spawn, which helps a bit with planning a group hunt.

Most days will see three wyrms spawn, occasionally there might be four in one day as the timers organically shift within a 24-hour period due to variance. Right now that's one around noonish, one around 8 pm, and one in the witching hours around 4 am ET.

frosty junco
#

Skinning observation in case it’s helpful for others:

Today I trained 101 extra ranks of first aid, going from 1x first aid and 1x survival, to 2x first aid and 1x survival. Skin quality has gone from like 1 out of 4 in the “extraordinary” category to essentially 100%. And I haven’t had a single skinning failure yet

hasty garnet
#

are you aiming? Avoiding the relevant bits?

frosty junco
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Nope

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I should clarify that this is all in HW

sharp raptor
#

I'm curious, is there a cap on Hypothermia? I don't usually go for super long hunts, but decided to just keep milling around out there to stay awake while waiting for the wyrm to take to wing. Never have had it this high before.
Hypothermia (119) 46 min

tough swan
hoary temple
#

white walker

sharp raptor
hasty garnet
#

I always wondered who the little Johnny Treasureseed was up there

chilly valve
#

Random idea.... if the long term Wyrm drops are not going to be super special beyond first gemstone, how about it being the defacto "ascension invoker" so you can kill it every 4 hours and gain a buff that only works in ascension area... (25AS/25DS/15CS/15TD)

sharp raptor
# chilly valve Random idea.... if the long term Wyrm drops are not going to be super special be...

I'm all for some sort of standard reward for slaying a wyrm. Even if it was just realm wide. It's really neat that it's going to be an opener for a quest, but I'd still like to see there be a reason to do it more than once. It has always been incredibly hard to get a group together to hunt it with all the factors aligned. 1) It's deadly, 2) You have to wait hours for it to spawn, 3) It sticks around for 10 minutes, and most of all 4) No reward. So, I imagine after the initial mad dash to start the quest en masse, that it will soon return to lack of interest for most folks.

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I am looking forward to seeing dozens of folks eager to hunt one. Myharl will take full advantage of that! 😄

chilly valve
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Maybe like long term kills get you some reward and every kill gives all ascension area hunters X buff, 100 kills, you get title, 250 kills you get X, and 500 kills you get Y, 1000 kills you get the right to buy XYZ uber item

sharp raptor
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Yep, or even just a rare drop. We have wyrmscale and wormsilk, maybe we can get wyrmstone.... before quicksilver was made illegal again, I wanted to get some made up to be a vial of wyrmblood.

chilly valve
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I mean if Wyrm just had some outsized chance to drop a gemstone then it would probably get more attention Like 1% which is low but better than 2 per month.

sharp raptor
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Heh, speaking of which. I had been looking for years to snag some more of the wyrm's-fang aetherstones that were only ever dropped as EG dig chrisms. I finally tracked one down last night. Would be a great spot to bring them back into circulation as actual gems.

chilly valve
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Then everyone can fight over the gemstone drop lol

sharp raptor
#

Myharl just wants to kill them. 😆 He'd be fine with letting someone else have special loot. He soloed several of them, but this new variant (and what I assume will be the final form) aren't something he can take down alone, I'm not sure anyone could just by the nature of RT lock.

shy torrent
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The buff idea is cool. I went toe to toe with one the other night. Luckily I found someone recently murdered by the wyrm and used them as an excuse to return to camp

sharp raptor
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Locking the wyrm down works pretty well (tackle/sleep). Since I started testing out the tactic with group hunts, engagement time with the wyrm has doubled, and in some cases tripled. Also, if I disengage when the rest of the party has fallen, I usually walk away with a few minor wounds. Dolling out DOT (low steel psychic flares) is really the best approach. I honestly feel like we'll drop the thing if we got a few folks piling on that recurring damage, and disengaging combat to heal down while it's being locked in place and suppressed. This past week there were at least twice the battle reached the point that I genuinely considered, "This might be the time."

hasty garnet
#

moar dots

sharp raptor
#

Also, making that favor go brrrr. 🤣 I think I've blown through about a million favor this past week on the wyrm alone. I think I'd be content if Myharl slayed at least one more before the gemstones quest release (and whatever wyrm variant manifests for it). Then I plan on doing what I can to help folks hunt them as needed.

sharp raptor
# chilly valve Then everyone can fight over the gemstone drop lol

During the panel, the gemstone drop rates discussed felt pretty reasonable to me. Assuming that most drops will be converted to dust probably, the numbers felt to me like it might on par with what the currently frenzy feeder drops are doing. But yeah, a bump for the wyrm would catch the attention of the mechanics-driven folks for sure.

worthy knoll
#

Hopefully I can help out at some point, I can generally lock down a room and do a pretty decent amount of damage through rotflares on the thing

stuck blade
# 
** Branching filaments of power snap outward from your plumille cloak in a lambent black corona! **
[SMR result: 125 (Open d100: 57, Bonus: 1)]
An eyeless black valravn vaporizes into a swirl of cold, black mist that streaks toward you in a blur of shadowy, intangible feathers!  The vaporous cloud penetrates your magical defenses and washes over you in a chaotic onslaught!
   ... 8 points of damage!
Your rusalkoren platemail flashes red and you suddenly feel enraged!
   Your intestines knot themselves.  Painful.
   You are stunned for 1 round!
   ... 9 points of damage!
   Blood in your left eye boils.  Red steam rises from socket.
   ... 1 point of damage!
   Icy chill to your midriff.  A bowl of nice hot stew would hit the spot right now.
An eyeless black valravn dwindles back into its avian form.
!S>
An eyeless black valravn soars past you on stygian wings.
In the chill of its passage, an unsettling cold creeps over you, as if you can feel your grip on mortality slipping away with every passing heartbeat.
!S>stance offensive
You are still stunned.
!S>
[SMR result: 204 (Open d100: 86, Bonus: 51)]
An eyeless black valravn vaporizes into a swirl of cold, black mist that streaks toward you in a blur of shadowy, intangible feathers!  The vaporous cloud penetrates your magical defenses and washes over you in a chaotic onslaught!
   ... 2 pointsYou are still stunned.
 of damage!
   Back swells and bones crack!
   ... 13 points of damage!
   Elbow shatters under sudden decompression!
   ... 13 points of damage!
   Brain swells suddenly, unfortunately your skull doesn't.
   ... 4 points of damage!
   Almost missed!  Why not put your hand in your pocket and warm up a bit?
   ... 9 points of damage!
   Decompression causes muscles in leg to snap!
   ... 14 points of damage!
   Sternum snaps followed by many ribs!
An eyeless black valravn dwindles back into its avian form.```

This is some nonsense. =/
wraith wave
#

Whats an ideal lore flare for killing a not-dragon?

craggy flame
abstract umbra
wraith wave
#

This is the lore dot flares.(Not-Rot flares essentially.)

sharp raptor
#

There's no where else to put this info ATM, so just plugging it in here since it's Hinterwilds-specific.
The spirit essence capture functionality on the Animalistic Idols sold in "Totemic Spirits" at DR work on the following creatures north of the Long Snow: hinterboars, valravns, and wargs. Strangely they don't work on mastodons. They of course don't work on any of the humanoid creatures, nor oozes or undansormrs. I also confirmed that they do not work on the wyrm (of course I tried) nor the packmother.

wraith wave
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So which lore flare is going to set off the wyrm's barrier?

worthy knoll
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All the Elemental ones will set it off, rotflates/necromancy does not at least it didn't the last time I fought it

wraith wave
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Please Auchand I need answers before spending 400k BS XD

worthy knoll
#

I mean flourishes aren't going anywhere, so if doubt you can always wait till feb and we should know the changes for the wyrm by then, I honestly can't imagine the shield staying as it is, as it basically makes casters not be able to participate whom already have rediculously hard times due to incredibly high TD and bolt DS

opal pine
worthy knoll
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I mean, my entire build revolves around casting spells at it haha

opal pine
#

Full immunity, as has been discussed ad nauseum over the years (vvrael, etc), never feels good. I can see resistances, modified efficacy, etc - but fully blocking things is just yuck.

worthy knoll
#

well on a creature that's slated to be part of being able to unlock the charm system, it's kinda important that ALL classes can participate haha

opal pine
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Yep. I'm not particularly worried - 99% just venting at current state. I'm confident it will land in a good spot

sharp raptor
#

Yeah, I try to keep in mind this isn't the final iteration of the wyrm. I keep trying though, because that's what wyrmslayers do. ⚔️ I'm not sure there is a solution to the current wyrm outside of investing gembucks into obscene gear. I've lead crews in to try different tactics, and the best we've been able to do is get it about 2/10ths of the way dead (assuming the hp is relevant to past iterations), and that's at 5x capped, with gear that's not uber, but still on the higher end. My hope is that it's not going to be turned into a proxy-paywall needing super high end gear to take down like it currently is, other than that, I'm just patiently waiting.

junior linden
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I don't think the introduction of gems is supposed to be a kind of gate-keeping via paywall, rather I think it's a way to excite players and have them engage in the broader game world in a new and refreshing way. Play can get dusty and stale sometimes, I believe this is their idea of putting some shine to something that's become a bit overly rote.

I think the devs understand the categorical difference between characters which are outliers and the main body of characters. My only evidence for that is their response to somewhat negligible though 'unfair' designs and their subsequent mitigation of them (i.e. apparatus trap in The Hive, and I think the rate of Dread stacking in ME). I'd imagine any design to the wyrm which would make it unapproachable to a group of players who can hunt in ascension areas would also subsequently be slowly whittled down until it becomes something with which everyone can participate and hopefully enjoy.

torn meadow
#

When are the gemstones coming to hinterwilds

timid shuttle
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Simucon mentioned end of Q4 or early 2025 I think.

azure mantle
torn meadow
wraith wave
#

Glad to see you back @torn meadow

torn meadow
#

I never left . I’ve been watching you from the shadows .

stoic venture
wraith wave
#

You let me buy the time claidh?!

chilly valve
#

[You have earned 4772 bounty points, 770 experience points, and 9207 silver.]

hasty garnet
#

undansormr scales

torn meadow
#

I used it and then went back in time and let you buy it the second time

marsh canyon
sharp raptor
#

Hahahah! Four years of hunting the Hinterwilds, I've never had that happen. Been thrown, but never down the well! 🤣 ⚔️

  AS: +802 vs DS: +444 with AvD: +32 + d100 roll: +107 = +497
   ... and hit for 189 points of damage!
   Incredible slash to the shadow-cloaked draugr's neck!
   Throat and vocal cords destroyed!
   Zero chance of survival.
You hear a sound like a child weeping as a white glow separates itself from the shadow-cloaked draugr's body and rises into the heavens.
Electric blue light pours from the draugr's eye sockets and erupts from his tattoos, leaving only a shadowy cadaver behind as animation departs a withered shadow-cloaked draugr.

A withered shadow-cloaked draugr falls deeper into bloodthirst, the darkness swathing her growing more impenetrable!
[SMR result: 146 (Open d100: 72)]
A withered shadow-cloaked draugr grabs your legs and lifts you.  With a malevolent grin on her face, she winds up and hurls you into the air, sending you flying down a black stone well.

[Stone Well, Bucket]
Spared bleaching by the lack of sunlight in the sky, the bucket is brittle and dry, but still holds the color of new-cut pine.  It is sealed here and there with pitch.  Below, the well delves into inky darkness, the sole apparent denizen of which is the sluggish splash of water a long way down.  A thickly woven rope securing the bucket to the windlass provides means to climb out of the well.
Obvious exits: none
You hit the ground hard at the end of your catastrophic descent!
   ... 3 points of damage!
   Light blow to your right arm.```
shy torrent
#

wyrm ate me, wow

#

19 attacks in like 3 seconds?

sharp raptor
wraith wave
#

It does full berserk rounds at 800+ AS.

glad spire
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lol I love it. Nice swoosh, Myharl. Freaking 800 AS just blows my mind. I'm two hundred less than that. That's what I get for being a frail elf. Lol I guess I'll stay in the Rift/Scatter. You all are playing the big game!

chilly valve
glad spire
sharp raptor
#

Even though Myharl is a berserker (it's how I hunt 99% of the time), it's typically a choice. However, I find it almost impossible to stance dance with the wyrm due to sympathy. If I'm offensively engaging it, feels like berserk is the only viable option since then even if I do when I get caught in a sympathy gaze, I still spend those rounds smacking it. There's not a lot of chance I'm going to overcome 1120 at 520 CS.

Side note: Wish I had the budget to pull it off, because that new Rage Armor was essentially made for Myharl. 😄

hasty garnet
#

it's fun! fist fighting wendigos is a hoot

glad spire
sharp raptor
# glad spire Sympathy is a terrible mechanic as it currently works. Man do I detest it. I ten...

Heheh, me too. I used to be really vocal about it as well. Will never agree that completely taking away a players ability to interact with the game is fun. Still hold the same opinion, but figure it's even more unlikely to change as the power balance in the game gets shifted by HESS at DR.

No one fares well against the wyrm. 😄 However, anytime one is incoming feel free to shout out and join the hunt. As long as the party doesn't get more than five in it, it's always nice to have more folks pinging it in battle (and helping to suppressing those vicious wyrm mstrike vollies).

glad spire
#

I feel that a berserk character shouldn't be able to be impacted by something like Sympathy, its a real illogical stance from Dev in my opinion. Also, I need to explore and figure out where these various newer locations are. You know us old timers we dont get out much and all the new is overwhelming at times.

sharp raptor
#

At least when berserking we're still being effective.... even if deadly to any fellow party members. Getting caught outside of a berserk though (or having berserk broken while under the effects) your character just becomes a spikey paperweight thrown at fellow party members. I've dropped more than my fair share of folks, and got dropped instantly by fellow wyrm hunter's xazkruvrixis death flares once when they were sympathized and took a swing at Myharl. 💀

pliant hatch
#

Creature Sympathy doesn't work like player cast 1120 Sympathy. If it did I don't think people would mind it nearly as much. If a player casts (unfriendly, evoked) 1120, all that means is 1) you can't target them with an attack and if you try you will attack someone else, 2) you can't cast an AOE while under its affects and 3) you can leave the room. Granted, this is true as of a few years ago when I was 1120'ing in Nelemar and would catch people running through. It never affected them outside of not being able to use an AOE

hasty garnet
glad spire
wraith wave
#

So wait, while berserking we still swing on party members?

torn meadow
#

hopefully

sharp raptor
torn meadow
#

what is a good spell for a blink weapon against the mighty wyrm

worthy knoll
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current wyrm? all spells suck against it (super high TD, super high bolt DS)

torn meadow
#

what about web, or major ewave, or sounds hehe

stuck blade
#

I’m not sure even 212 works

earnest spire
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You want as plain of a weapon as possible vs. the current wyrms.

#

Flares just proc a temporary barrier that make them immune to everything

#

It just LoLs at disablers. Right now we can't really make any gear-based decisions regarding them

glad spire
#

I need a crystal ball that would allow me to watch from a distance.

earnest spire
#

Popping shadow dance and spamming them with 1 second, hasted waylays seems to be the only viable strategy. Even then it's a roll of the dice.

#

One botched hide and it is good night.

torn meadow
#

need wyrmbane

azure mantle
#

i usually just beat it to death

torn meadow
#

how much does animal totem take to unlock

azure mantle
torn meadow
#

i didnt kill one

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not in at least a year

wraith wave
#

We've put together a Wyrm Subjugation group. Our goal is to slay the beast before it's power wanes.

#

Join us to either support directly or as an auxiliary member during our subjugation attempts at 12 AM, 8 AM and 5 PM(Mostly here.) EST- +-1 hour in terms of timing.

sharp raptor
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Looking forward to it!

azure mantle
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im down to take the wyrm to pound town

wraith wave
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Funnily enough, I live 18 miles from pound town.

hasty garnet
#

rumor true????

torn meadow
wraith wave
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The man's a monster XD

sharp raptor
#

Just for reference on the wyrm... I walked in the room and slapped my berserk macro... all of this processed before the berserk could start. Three seconds later it did it again (too big for a message, attching text). Note: That's 20 attacks in a 3 second window. ⚔️

📎 wyrm-strike.txt
#

I'm actually kind of more surprised that I was in full offensive and survived a direct offensive attack by a sympathied Warclaidh that processed both whirlwind and pyschic flares than I was about slaying the new wyrm.

glad spire
#

Wow, just... wow.

fair comet
#

did you guys kill it?

pliant atlas
#

Warclaidh is the real wyrm.

frosty junco
#

Wyrmclaidh ?

sharp raptor
#

Now I need a shirt that reads "I survived Wyrmclaidh".

azure mantle
sharp raptor
azure mantle
#

“I died to a whale in HW and all I got was this stupid shirt”

sharp raptor
azure mantle
azure mantle
sharp raptor
azure mantle
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"This includes melee, ranged, and spell attacks. Since the wyrm is immune to the death flares of xazkruvrixis, it is highly recommended not to use the material during combat with the silver-scaled cold wyrm since the death flares can trigger against other characters to immediately kill them."

My exploits are legendary

livid temple
#

As if your ridiculous AS wouldn't have killed them anyway.

torn meadow
wraith wave
#

Silver lining XD

ashen tapir
hasty garnet
#

is that the wyrm or is it warclaidh -- when you beat the wyrm, do you become the wyrm 🤔

marsh canyon
#

Trogdor!

tardy fjord
#

you folks are beasts.. Hinterwilds is a truely rough place to hunt!

abstract umbra
#

I love it. Just need some fishing. Maybe a private lodge.

cyan lynx
tardy fjord
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The hunt goes better when Im guarded by Falvicar but solo it's really scary.

cyan lynx
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Moonsedge town (not the castle) might be less challenging.

#

Technically the creatures are stronger, but I think Creeping and Crushing Dread are preferable to cannibals.

glad spire
glad spire
tardy fjord
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I usually do most of my hunting in Moonsedge no problem the occasional death But with the new need for skinning for my new amazing Bear totem I need skins thought I'd visit Hinterwilds But.. 1) I don't skin well apparently . and 2) The swarming is what's getting scary, granted the Castle can get swarmy too but not nearly as bad seems.

cyan lynx
glad spire
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This frail KS elf warrior hasnt blundered upon anything.

stuck blade
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The library in the castle is sancted. You can rest there to drop your dread
Anyone with access to 220 can pop in there to drop dread as well

calm flint
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We need a next place that's like the Franklin Expedition as portrayed in the Terror where you get Hypothermia + Dread and eventually succumb to cannibalism to hit all the things

tardy fjord
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Celtar do you hunt Hinterwilds?

fiery path
glad spire
tardy fjord
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Always welcome!

glad spire
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Working my alts through lumnis currently but I'll definitely keep that in mind. (Has an alt problem)

cyan lynx
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Would anyone be willing to test the wyrm updates today? @sharp raptor cough cough.

sharp raptor
tardy fjord
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You taking a group Myharl? I would love to see this in action. even if I die

cyan lynx
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It'll be in Test.

stoic venture
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Myharl could already kill it, seek out pures/semis 😛

cyan lynx
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The wyrm's pretty significantly redesigned. I can't take it down solo on my PC, but it's slower now, so you may be able to.

tardy fjord
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Oohhh in "test" gotcha

sharp raptor
cyan lynx
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Okay, I'll plan on starting the wyrm summon in a couple minutes on Test.

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Just be in the Hinterwilds.

sharp raptor
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I'm in Test on the old game trail if anyone else wants to join up.

stuck blade
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Roll the updates into plat so me and JD can test dragons

cyan lynx
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Fire the ballista?

tardy fjord
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awe so firing those ballistas were important

cyan lynx
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Yup.

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FIRE BALLISTA.

tardy fjord
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||>fire ballista You don't feel safe enough to focus your attention on firing the gigas ballista.||

strong raft
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Are you still doing testing on the server with the wyrm ?

tardy fjord
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yes... wait maybe not?

torn meadow
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what changed about wyrm?

earnest spire
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I'm stuck at work and living vicariously through yaall. How's it going in there?

tardy fjord
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its cold and bloody

earnest spire
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Luckyyyy

torn meadow
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when i train cold resist on ascension does it stack with ranger resist item

lime knot
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no

earnest spire
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Resistances do not stack. It's always just the highest % that gets used.

azure mantle
# cyan lynx It'll be in Test.

I can kill it on standard depending on how fast it get the sympathy off depends how big of a pain it is, but i dont think im updated on test

cyan lynx
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I'll let people post their thoughts on the wyrm test.

azure mantle
cyan lynx
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Sure. These changes are not live, but are on Test:

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The wyrm now spawns and claims an area of territory in the Hinterwilds as its own. It flies overhead in that area, disrupting spellcasting and causing roundtime with its Dazzling Presence ability. It will continue to lurk in the area for about 15 minutes if ignored.

Phase 1: The gigas will set up a ballista in the area protected by a troop of gigas. They will not normally abandon the ballista, so you'll have to take them on if you want to claim it. Ballistae can only be fired if you're out of combat.

Phase 2: Upon firing the ballista, the wyrm will descend and begin attacking. This is a normal fight phase with all of the wyrm's abilities at play. It is immune to roundtime stacking, has a number of SMR, SSR, and warding abilities in addition to normal attacks and mstrikes. Around every 45 seconds, the wyrm will shift between flying and ground attacks. While flying, the wyrm cannot be hit by standard melee attacks.

Phase 3: After taking sufficient damage, the wyrm will summon a mana shield. This is a burn phase during which it will use its most troubling abilities more frequently.

Phase 4: After taking sufficient damage, the wyrm will retreat to its den in the River of Color, taking up to 5 players with it. If you die in the River of Color, you are expelled back into the real world. This is the final fight.

Upon being killed, the wyrm will turn to stone and there'll be a monument to your success for a while.

lime knot
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So is it random whch 5 people get pulled? as in, on maybe release day when everyone is trying to unlock gemstones it'll just be a crapshoot if you get pulled in? Or does everyone that helped in phase1/2 get credit still?

strong raft
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Nostalgic like a boss fight from the FF series with the zones. Well done man

torn meadow
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do we get a 2 hour buff for killing it? more of a reason to go after it 🙂

cyan lynx
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I don't have a great way to manage first come first serve, but will consider it.

lime knot
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i don't think it's that big of a deal, except like i said maybe the first day. was just curious really and even then probably not really

tardy fjord
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It felt like a group of five could handle it with a good mix of Range and Melee suport with either lots of herbs or a solid healer.

worthy knoll
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does it still sympathy? and anyone testing, what's it swing at these days? Last time I looked into the wyrm it was absolutely impossible to be in the room as a pure, as either a warrior would get sympathied and kill me or the wyrm would swing at like 800as and kill me after it smr'd me

torn meadow
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its scary, maybe 700-800 as, i forget

strong raft
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It still swings at 800+, but is slower with attacks. Bard TD was 575, success margin for feint was 76% with 272 cman ranks

worthy knoll
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yeah, that's still just gonna be a huge pain to even try to survive in a spell sever zone (as someone who can't have redux or wear plate)

strong raft
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Get myharl to tank. He did great

lime knot
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as long as it isn't just randomly immune to UCS, like all empath spells, or flaring weapons entirely it's a win

torn meadow
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i cant see how a group lives if it sympathies with 5 people in a room, everyone has death flares and mind flares and flare flares

strong raft
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Sympathy wasn’t a large factor. We kept it locked down with feint

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Weapon technique cripple now works as well. It’s doable

worthy knoll
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dunno, I have fairly large reservations about a random spawn being a roadblock for gemstones if that is still the plan

It would be much better IMO to allow people to spawn it with collecting certain drops or something similar to the sybil or something.

I also worry about griefing a bit, people just running in to try and get teleported for the final phase for credit

strong raft
worthy knoll
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yeah it could still come out and fly around same as it does if it random-spawns, but like yeah some way to trigger it with some rare drops or such, so you could be like ok, we got our party of 5, we're gonna go hunt this thing

tardy fjord
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I don't think alot of folks are farming this at the moment. So the fear of it being "stolen" seem fairly low.

cyan lynx
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I like the idea of it being summonable as well.

worthy knoll
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I mean, I'm not worried about now, I'm worried about if/when it's a roadblock of opening the gemstones system, and every post cap player in the entire game is going to need it

tardy fjord
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True true nods fair point

hasty garnet
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"party of five at 7pm? hmmm Im sorry The Wyrm is fully booked, how about next Tuesday at 8:15"

worthy knoll
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it's also really cool to be able to like schedule a group sometime, if you all want to try and tackle it with your friends, sometimes it's hard to all be on during a random spawn

tardy fjord
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it being summonable would make it easier for time.. What if two are summoned? in two different areas would that be something doable?

cyan lynx
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Probably a cooldown.

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To prevent that.

torn meadow
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Make hinterwilds a pvp area the day the gemstones are implemented. Make sure you guys arent bored.

lime knot
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If you kill someone who has killed the wyrm, you also unlock gemstones via the transitive property.

hasty garnet
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Hinterwilder, there can be only one

opal pine
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Please consider having gnomes count as partial group members. Definitely not because I have a squad of 6.

sharp raptor
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The wyrm spawns are not entirely random (there's a random -10, 0, +10 minute tick on the 8 hour wait. I've followed it and created forecasting for it for regular hunts. Does require paying attention and being in the Hinterwilds, though. I added details to the wyrms wiki page. It's about an 8 hour wait between spawns, but you can plan ahead by a good bit once you know when one takes to wing. I do like the idea of it being able to be summoned with a cooldown as well. Would certainly help with getting groups together.

sharp raptor
# tardy fjord I don't think alot of folks are farming this at the moment. So the fear of it be...

Currently I don't think anyone farms/hunts them regularly aside from Myharl and maybe one or two other folks, but I have a sense that it's going to get very crowded when it's required for the new gemstones system, though I'm sure that will die down significantly once most folks complete that leg of the quest. I think it could be frustrating for awhile waiting 8 hours just to have five other folks engage it. So... either a summoning effect and/or increasing it's frequency significantly for a time when that happens.

pliant hatch
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Disrupting the zone for 15 minutes if nobody kills it is gonna kinda suck to live with after the rush of people getting the quest started is over and nobody wants to bother killing it again slash most of the area is afk

sharp raptor
pliant hatch
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I must have misread then

tardy fjord
sharp raptor
tardy fjord
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that Ballista was awesome and challenging!

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I also had alot of fun . Thank you for letting me come along!

sharp raptor
torn meadow
sharp raptor
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Looking forward to the new roll out, should be fun taking it down. Also ironic as the ||River of Color|| was been on of my favorite spots to linger in the Hinterwilds. 😄 Can still here the packmother going on the prowl in there.

azure mantle
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i can wait to kill myharl again while fighting the wyrm

torn meadow
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What do wargs do ? Some kind of smr thing that gets stronger the more of them there are

tribal quarry
# cyan lynx I like the idea of it being summonable as well.

Yes please, even if there's some limitation like only being possible to summon for characters who don't yet have the Big Game Hunter milestone (or whatever other trigger makes the game aware that we can use gemstones). A bottleneck on gemstone access would really kill the excitement right out of the gate. 🤣

lime knot
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Make the statue it turns into generate a plaque with the 5 people who got credit. To summon it again you have to desecrate their statue. Make sure they get a monsterbold message announcing the insolence.

sharp raptor
hasty garnet
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wargs just spam that fear thing and RT lock you pretty quick

sharp raptor
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They like to prowl over around Hoarbriar. Particularly when the Packmother is about. It's the only place I've really seen them gather in numbers enough to be a major concern. I woke a spectral Packmother one night and got swarmed.

torn meadow
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A spectral one smrd me to the other side

narrow summit
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Another thought - if once you kill the wyrm, could it make you immune to dazzling presence in the future?

cyan lynx
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Hah. No.

sharp raptor
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Could be a fun gemstone, though?

tough swan
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Can I have a cannon instead of a ballista? 😛

sharp raptor
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Is the Dazzling Presence excessively disruptive? I find it to be more of an inconvenience, but that maybe becuase I'm a warrior. It's not constant, and only triggers when the wyrm messages in your specific area.

abstract umbra
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is it still immune to weapon flares?

sharp raptor
abstract umbra
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awesome, thank you.

earnest spire
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I'm hype to try it out

abstract umbra
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me too, I wasnt liking the idea of having to swap out my super flaring gloves for something else.

stoic venture
strong raft
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It’s disruptive and dangerous for bards, sure. RT was 7 seconds on feint. While Azanoth and myharl were taking 1 damage a pop from damage ticks, my bard was getting nicked for 20. Not a complaint though, as we had a less than optimal party composition of two warriors, 1 bard, and one monk. With a more balanced party composition including an empath, it’s doable. The new empath service would have helped a ton as well. In the last zone, my bard couldn’t retreat and could not cast with a rank 2 head round.

sharp raptor
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Yeah, that makes sense. Even with Dazzling Presence triggering before the wyrm engages, the gigas crew manning the ballista still has to be dealt with to pull the encounter. That technically becomes sort of a phase zero for the wyrm battle. None of my settings carried over to the Test Server (macros, aliases, highlights, etc.) and it wasn't until afterwards that I realized that included logging as well so I'll run it again sometime this week on Test to capture all the messaging and update the wiki for anyone wanting to prep highlights for the chaos of the battle.

hasty garnet
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Sparkfinger says, "You didn't even bother to bring enough artifact fragments! ** What's the point of you!?"** He throws up his hands in an elaborate display of frustration." ... ouch dude

tardy fjord
sharp raptor
# tardy fjord I have a log but not sure how much it would help

Thanks! I would love them if you want to DM them to me. 1) I'd like to get a head start on the messaging for highlights and updating the wiki, but also 2) figure out why my sword vanished when I hurled it that one time to knock it out of the sky. I'm bonded to it and it should have returned to my hand (plus it wasn't in the room when I did a recover check). That's important for me to find out before it hits Prime. 😅 The sword just doesn't seem to exist any more on Test now.

sharp raptor
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Figured out what happened to my sword, I think. It appears to have got stuck in the wyrm. The hit not only dropped it from the sky, but initiated the next final phase... which apparently ate my sword. ```(A silver-scaled cold wyrm is flying far out of your reach!)

A quick flick of Myharl's wrist sends a glowing white sacred warsword into flight!
Myharl throws a glowing white sacred warsword at a silver-scaled cold wyrm!
AS: +539 vs DS: +493 with AvD: +16 + d100 roll: +85 = +147
... and hits for 20 points of damage!

** Necrotic energy from Myharl's sacred warsword flares up momentarily! **

Myharl appears to gain succour from the unnatural energy!

** Burning orbs of pure flame burst from a glowing white sacred warsword and engulf a silver-scaled cold wyrm! **
... 10 points of damage!

The wyrm lands. Eyes whirling sluggishly, nearly insensate from the ravages of battle, the wyrm lifts her head and raises one gleaming claw. Staggering from the effort, she braces herself and roars with a fury that makes the surroundings shiver. Power crackles along her scales in wildly dancing threads of rainbowed light. She spreads her wings wide, and a river of color surges through the surroundings, emanating from every direction. The wyrm vanishes amid the torrent of hues.

A wash of colored light consumes Myharl. This event, which should have immediately proceded the hit, seems to have failed to trigger due to the location change with the final phase and teleportation to Wyrmreach:

A glowing white sacred warsword rises out of the shadows and flies back to Myharl's waiting hand!```

cyan lynx
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Are you sure it's lost, or is it recoverable in the room before the transition?

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Because I'm pretty sure I saw the lost in environs message.

chilly valve
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Next person to kill the Wyrm claims Myharls sword upon search, totally legit

sharp raptor
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I'll hop in Test and check again to confirm real quick, but according to the log, that was the last time the weapon was seen (no additional messaging regarding it).

You kneel down.
>recover item
You intently search the area, sifting through the numerous plants.
You spy a glowing white sacred warsword and recover it!```

Yeah, it was there at the original site of the ballista. I'll have to track down a polearm as an alternative for that phase of the battle.
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I assume the return on bonded weapons works the same way hit or miss, so the teleportation happened before it could return. At least, that's what makes sense with the log. Probably the same thing would happen if hurling a weapon and then having a gigas throw Myharl before it returned. I just wouldn't normally be hurling my OHE at something. 😆

tardy fjord
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Yay! glad you were able to recover it.

rocky galleon
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This seems like a bug... is it? >weapon voll You can't reach a tattooed gigas berserker while she is riding the armored battle mastodon!

opal pine
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It is a known limitation of volley, never got a clear answer as to whether or not it's going to be changed. You can target the mastadon and hit the berserker still 😬.

Similarly can't target flying things

cyan lynx
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That is weird.

narrow summit
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For anyone that has successfully killed the wyrm (in its new iteration) on test - would you be able to share a log?

chilly valve
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give wyrm 50,0000,000 coins
prep 917
cast wyrm

azure mantle
wraith wave
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Is it live?

azure mantle
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i just went looking for teh wyrm after being overhead and couldnt find it

cyan lynx
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Where was it flying?

sharp raptor
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That time (last evening) it landed in Ojandhaart, but may have gone into a building. This morning it landed in the Boreal Forest.

sharp raptor
hasty garnet
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as much as I hope you got your weapon back, it would be funny if the wyrm just had an ever increasing number of weapons stuck in it

sharp raptor
# hasty garnet as much as I hope you got your weapon back, it would be funny if the wyrm just h...

Heheh. That would be funny. I ended up popping back up on Test once Opal gave me a log so I could recall where the ballista room was at. When I did a "recover item" there I found it. It is something to keep in mind though — with the new wyrm actually flying (out of melee range) during a phase, there needs to be a way to bring it down. If you're hurling your bonded weapon, there's a chance it gets stuck in the previous room when you teleport for the final stage. It's kind of funny that it happened on the very first encounter with it.

narrow summit
hasty garnet
sharp raptor
narrow summit
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Appreciate it! Since we don't get our Shattered characters to test, it's really hard to try it out in a similar fashion to the real deal

cyan lynx
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The special wyrm summon item is now implemented on Test.

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It will drop off of reptilian mutants.

sharp raptor
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Ooooh

cyan lynx
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These changes will be headed live soon, though.

worthy knoll
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cool

zealous nimbus
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Curious since it seems mostly melee types hunting the wrym do any pures actually try it?

worthy knoll
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it's very punishing for pures just AS/DS attacks tend to kill us unless you have like 850+ DS

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which isn't easy in spell sever zones, I'll certainly give it a try somewhat but it's pretty rough for someone whom doesn't have redux or plate or both, it also has proportionally a bit higher spell defenses than melee defenses

cyan lynx
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That said, it also has immunity to non-ranged attacks when flying, so.

worthy knoll
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yeah, the defenses isn't really the issue it's more of ease of not dying, it's a lot harder for a pure to get to a point they can live through that long of a fight with a dangerous enemy than someone with plate/redux

sharp raptor
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Are the summoning drops akin to rare drops like the ||feathers/quills||?

abstract umbra
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oof, we're going to need ranged thingies!?!?! Now i need a few milloin more xp for thrown or ranged! (not really a few mil I know)

cyan lynx
hasty garnet
tribal quarry
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Time to farm mutants, I guess. 🤣

Edit: Actually, wait, will killing a wyrm now count for unlocking gemstones later? If not, then I guess there's no rush to get it over with.

cyan lynx
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The Gemstones quest begins immediately after killing a wyrm. I have considered holding off on wyrm release until Gemstones are ready because of that, but I think this is a much more enjoyable experience even without that piece.

stoic venture
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I think Vaemyr speaks the truth. Easy fight for warriors in plate w/ redux. Good luck to everyone else.

earnest spire
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That was a rush.

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||Belching a toxic mix of acid and blood from her maw, the wyrm struggles for purchase on the disc, but her titanic musculature has no more strength within it. The wyrm topples over the side, dissolving into motes of color as she plummets out of sight. Her death throes manage to upend the platform, and you fall into the abyss, hurtling after the dying wyrm. [Fjallarhaart, Mead Hall] The remains of a bar the height of a tall giantman bisect the cavernous hall. Spattered with raven droppings, the bar is bared to the elements by the crumbling roof, and the aurora's ghostly glow plays over the hall's interior. Sharply pungent, the tang of spilled mead fends off the odor of char, but it has left the floorboards tacky in places. You also see a silver-scaled cold wyrm that appears dead. Obvious exits: out||

cyan lynx
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Jaired did a pretty good job locking down the wyrm.

earnest spire
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That was awesome.

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10. Big Game Hunter Kill a Challenging Creature No

cyan lynx
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I do want to make sure it's not a completely trivial fight first.

abstract umbra
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I'm sure, had it been ANYONE else in plat, they would have probably been squished

tribal quarry
earnest spire
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I imagine once the Gemstone system is live we'll need to down a fresh one. He's probably gotta go make it immune to my shenanigans quick. Sorry rogues.

torn meadow
earnest spire
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No plate here, just a tactical turtleneck.

stoic venture
torn meadow
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It will one shot you, stay back demon.

tribal quarry
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What I'm really asking, basically, is whether there's any advantage to killing 5000 mutants as soon as their drop is live or whether I can take it slow and kill 5000 mutants over the next several months because their drop won't matter until gemstones are released. 😛

cyan lynx
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Being able to sell wyrm runs?

stoic venture
sharp raptor
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I'm curious if you can use the runestones to join the last phase of the battle. If so, that could be a legit tactic. Because no matter where the wyrm is pulled down, you can station backup/clean-up crew at a safe distance and be one step away from joining the battle. Could be useful to those who struggle through the battle (like pures), allowing them to contribute without being dropped before the last phases. I know everyone keeps worrying about people "stealing" kills, I'm more concerned about how I can help folks successfully fell them.

cyan lynx
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That's not a bad idea. We'll see how doable it ends up being.

calm flint
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Now I want an entire backstory of what reptilian mutants summon the wyrm for

sharp raptor
abstract umbra
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man, that was rough, 4 of us, and we lost one 😦

earnest spire
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Still got the W, tho.

abstract umbra
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thanks for taking the hits for us @thick wing you saved all of us!

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I hope they fix bubble flares to not be level based. Not having those extra 50 points of damage padding caused some pain

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in case anyone ever wondered ```

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[Cold River, Watch Post - 28614] (u7503254)
At the top of a rough-hewn spruce ladder, the nest of the watch post looks out over a sea of white-capped trees. The timbers of the foundation creak and groan, and the makeshift building sways in the breeze. You also see a dog-eared old tome.
Obvious exits: none
read tome
In the Gigas language, it reads:
The Tale of Thoden Stronk```

sharp raptor
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Oh neat. Weird that it says gigas language, I thought it was in halfling.

abstract umbra
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it's in Gigas

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probably an oversight

sharp raptor
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Hahaha... did we just get booted from the Hinterwilds?

abstract umbra
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I did not, but I'm in plat

opal pine
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Everyone's getting sucked into the temporal rift

sharp raptor
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Rift storm!

cyan lynx
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Unfortunately, people keep rushing back in and mucking it up.

sharp raptor
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A large group of us is chilling in the rift. A heads up when we're good to escape?

opal pine
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It seems as though my tent that was in the Village Center might've become a casualty

cyan lynx
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I've got it.

delicate steeple
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WTB Auction quality tent

opal pine
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Hah..in WL. With my poor gem mule

cyan lynx
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It's in front of you.

opal pine
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I see it, thanks! ...any chance the poor guy that got left behind in WL can get a lift to the pipe den? 😆

cyan lynx
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Sorry about the interruption to the night's fun, but needed to do that.

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Sure.

abstract umbra
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How was it?!?!?

livid temple
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If Hinterwilds is going to start being more popular with the addition of gemstones, can we get tables or something added to the inn?

opal pine
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A final request - could the Cold River NPCs get nudged to return to their posts? They do love to dally after a..refresh

stuck blade
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The fight was crazy to follow with just 4 peeps in platinum. So much spam. =/

cyan lynx
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A little odd on that one.

calm flint
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And turn fishing back on

rocky galleon
sharp raptor
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Wyrm slain! That was so much fun.

earnest spire
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Great success?

cyan lynx
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It died in the third phase instantly. Probably some instant death mechanic somewhere.

earnest spire
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We unlocked the bonus 4th phase in Plat.

sharp raptor
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Yeah, I noticed! We got teleported, then it was dead. I was like, "Where's it at?!" 😄

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||With a sudden lurching sensation, the world dissolves in a flash of colored light. A sense of incredible scope tugs at your being, as if you are being spread over a vast distance, but abruptly, you materialize elsewhere, lying flat on your back.

[River of Color, Wyrmreach]
A circular disc of hammered metal drifts amidst banks of prismatic mist, gleaming as if freshly polished. Ribbons of color ripple and crackle in the distance, stretching beyond the limits of eyesight. Pulses travel along the glowing threads, their rhythms as regular as the beating of a heart. You also see a silver-scaled cold wyrm that is flying around.
Also here: Arena Icon Fulmen who is lying down, Leff who is lying down, Renowned Lord Whayle who is lying down, Zhagen who is lying down
Obvious paths: out

The cold wyrm lands badly. Belching a toxic mix of acid and blood from her maw, the wyrm struggles for purchase on the disc, but her titanic musculature has no more strength within it. The wyrm topples over the side, dissolving into motes of color as she plummets out of sight. Her death throes manage to upend the platform, and you fall into the abyss, hurtling after the dying wyrm.||

cyan lynx
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Not sure what you guys did to manage that, but it's hard to track all of the ways that players can murder something.

azure mantle
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sick
we were too stronk

cyan lynx
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I've rolled in a fix but we'll have to see.

abstract umbra
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I’m bummed I forgot to clear the level 160 DR champion from my foe list.

stuck blade
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Wyrm unfairly targeting empaths. Heard it here first.

cyan lynx
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There will be some interim rewards once I'm 100% sure the fight is balanced, but it's looking pretty solid.

azure mantle
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spawn it again and we'll square up

abstract umbra
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I don’t think plat could have done it with meat shields and Jaired

earnest spire
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Yeah spawn another in each instance for the road

abstract umbra
earnest spire
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Fair enough

rocky galleon
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Incoming.

abstract umbra
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I see your dragon and raise you

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azure mantle
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haha
i just want to point out warclaid died before me

cyan lynx
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I couldn't follow what happened.

azure mantle
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what matters is i outlived those scrublords
then got auto sent to the shrine lmao

how many wyrms was that

cyan lynx
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How did you create so many?

zealous nimbus
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so uh kudos to you guys...

Some deep-graven etchings decorate the edifice's wall, depicting scenes of strife and violence in a primitive technique.  Near to the wall, something has breached through the hard earth, leaving behind a collapsed tunnel that has sunk the surrounding ground.  You also see a spectral cold wyrm (flying), a spectral cold wyrm (flying), a spectral cold wyrm (flying), a spectral cold wyrm (flying), a flayed gigas disciple, a spectral cold wyrm (flying), a sturdy steel box, an engraved thanot box, a spectral cold wyrm (flying), a spectral cold wyrm (flying), a spectral cold wyrm (flying), a spectral cold wyrm (flying), a spectral cold wyrm (flying), a spectral cold wyrm (flying), the oak and bronze Whayle disk shaped like a treasure chest, a spectral cold wyrm (flying), a black void, a tiny resolute elf-owl (stunned), a lithe dingy russet abyran'sa and a flying cobalt blue tome.```
earnest spire
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LMAO. Necro Rings failed successfully.

azure mantle
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thats what it took to kill me, ill take it

zealous nimbus
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I'll assume the Thaumaturge Tome did all of the work

azure mantle
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'we almost had them

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Big wyrm man in the sky gonna spawn more?

cyan lynx
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Shortly.

earnest spire
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:sad plat noises:

cyan lynx
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😛

earnest spire
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Eeeee

azure mantle
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Wyrm up in the sky.....i can go twice as high....

rocky galleon
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rekt.

azure mantle
abstract umbra
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I'd volunteer to help some now if you need @earnest spire 😂

azure mantle
cyan lynx
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😛

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There we go.

hasty garnet
cyan lynx
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Haha.

azure mantle
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where did it go that time lol

cyan lynx
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I removed it.

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Still something weird going on with it that wasn't in testing.

zealous nimbus
azure mantle
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were we close to killing it?
you can say we're too strong ill understand

rocky galleon
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I felt pretty good about spamming moonbeam at it.

cyan lynx
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Nah, just a bug that was popping up on my side.

azure mantle
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opps

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sorry @ashen tapir

ashen tapir
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literally unplayable

You stare at a silver-scaled cold wyrm.
  CS: +612 - TD: +538 + CvA: +25 + d125: +101 == +200
  Warding failed!
The cold wyrm looks at you in utter terror!
The cold wyrm is frightened into utter immobility!  It collapses to the ground.
You feel the unnatural surge of necrotic power wane away.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.```
azure mantle
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bleh

chilly valve
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whoops, I prayed to my pally standard and ended up in Icemule (as a corpse)

azure mantle
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wyrm sky man save us

cyan lynx
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LOL.

azure mantle
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how did we not kill that, we had to be close?

cyan lynx
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You were fairly close.

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Felt like a long fight though!

ashen tapir
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feels tougher than round 101 of the arena

azure mantle
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it was room jumping a lot , can we get a rez

chilly valve
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Baseline: full tilt Warclaidh and friends barely kill it
Casuals trying to get first gemstone: scream_goat 🔥 💀

cyan lynx
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Y'all were making it flee.

azure mantle
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cause we sensed its fear?
it knew it was in danger

ashen tapir
zealous nimbus
chilly valve
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The idea of Wyrm magnitudes might be fun, like normal wyrm can drop 1-2 gemstones, big bad golden wyrm can drop 4-5 but 5x as tough.

cyan lynx
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You guys really rolled the first couple. I wonder what the problem was this time.

chilly valve
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I really dont see how you could ever balance the wyrm, its either going to be a stomp for whales or a hellish battle for casuals

cyan lynx
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Probably accurate. 😛

stoic venture
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Which group will complain more

azure mantle
chilly valve
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I think it SHOULD be that casuals need help from community, like if you are just visiting HW to get gemstone better team up

ashen tapir
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it's gone spectral again

azure mantle
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that unhitable phase is the issue for me

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Rolfard's sentient potato cries and squeaks, "Won't someone help my dad?"

i tried little buddy, i tried

hasty garnet
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I thought y'all were doing this on the test server

azure mantle
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sky man save your loyal subjects

cyan lynx
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It was pretty thoroughly pummeled on the Test server.

hasty garnet
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I am become death, destroyer of wyrms

azure mantle
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praise be to wyrm sky man thank you

chilly valve
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Everyone has 2,000 ascension points on the test server....

earnest spire
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Gaaaaaahhhhh

azure mantle
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that unhitable phase, is that where we are supposed to get on the ballista?
I feel like i could get tanky enough to live through that if i tried

ashen tapir
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i feel like i could get a half good nights rest if i type exit now

chilly valve
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yeah, I am just shooting away, so feels like we need to actually strategize or know what to do?
I got rid of some acid clouds atleast 🧠

earnest spire
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I got the bonus 4th phase bug again

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Beat it in the River of Color and instead of getting spit out with its statue, it was still alive and well

chilly valve
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Maybe like the Wyrm has 3 tiers, 10pm to 6am night wyrm is GOAT and drops 3x more, normal day Wyrm is normal, and maybe a select few Wyrms for beginners at certain times or days. "Hey newbie, remember that Wyrms on X day around noon are weakened"

ashen tapir
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good luck out there. i'll dream you guys kill it

azure mantle
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idk how any normal group is killing this lmao

chilly valve
azure mantle
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how is this thing not dead?

earnest spire
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||```... and hit for 147 points of damage!
Quick slash to the cold wyrm's upper right arm!
Just a nick.

Belching a toxic mix of acid and blood from her maw, the wyrm struggles for purchase on the disc, but her titanic musculature has no more strength within it. The wyrm topples over the side, dissolving into motes of color as she plummets out of sight. Her death throes manage to upend the platform, and you fall into the abyss, hurtling after the dying wyrm.
[Angargreft, Sanguine Grove]
A broken runestone stands along the treeline, its shattered tip littering the ground around it. Drawn amateurishly into the ground at its base, as if scratched there by fingers despite the solid layer of frost coating the earth, is a sigil that looks like a scimitar. Blood, hardened and dried into little blackish crystals, stains the drawing. You also see a silver-scaled cold wyrm that appears dead.
Obvious paths: northeast, south
** Necrotic energy from your steel katana overflows into you! **

You feel reinvigorated!
Roundtime: 4 sec.
Roundtime changed to 1 second.
A silver-scaled cold wyrm's eyes whirl with glints of furious amber and sullen crimson!
As a silver-scaled cold wyrm attacks you, a cyclone of shadows emerge from your black jacket. The shadows swirl around in an attempt to conceal you!
Your injuries slightly hinder your attempt to hide.
A silver-scaled cold wyrm notices your attempt to hide!
A silver-scaled cold wyrm lashes out with a scythe-like talon at you!
A tenorite black x'aganjira sweater with a loose fold-over collar partially deflects the onslaught of the slashing attack.
AS: +856 vs DS: +669 with AvD: +25 + d100 roll: +81 = +293
... and hits for 18 points of damage!
Slash to your right leg hits high!
Kinda makes your knees weak, huh?

ashen tapir
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There aren't any more ringers, they all went in and the thing still didn't go down

cyan lynx
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Yeah, it will now appropriately die on the platform.

azure mantle
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i enjoy the fight, just not sure how it didnt die

cyan lynx
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It should die now.

azure mantle
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oh did you set it not to die

cyan lynx
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The phase change stuff was getting interrupted by a mechanic that wasn't used on the Test server.

azure mantle
cyan lynx
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I changed it, and that made it not die at all.

earnest spire
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...gave us more time to try different tactics?

azure mantle
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or get murdered, same same

ashen tapir
cyan lynx
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Really wish I knew what was killing it instantaneously. It's supposed to be immune to all of those things.

azure mantle
cyan lynx
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Haha.

azure mantle
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so
idk what happened but something put stowed everything

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where did everyone go?

fair comet
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fun fight, I definitely gotta beware of that 876 AS Mstrike - that definitely surprised me

azure mantle
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You swing a massive xazkruvrixis spikestar at a silver-scaled cold wyrm!
AS: +935 vs DS: +502 with AvD: +19 + d100 roll: +97 = +549
... and hit for 128 points of damage!
Left kneecap smashed into pulp.

Belching a toxic mix of acid and blood from her maw, the wyrm struggles for purchase on the disc, but her titanic musculature has no more strength within it. The wyrm topples over the side, dissolving into motes of color as she plummets out of sight. Her death throes manage to upend the platform, and you fall into the abyss, hurtling after the dying wyrm.

cyan lynx
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That worked out well.

azure mantle
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idk why it stowed my gear there, that was weird, then i got stun locked lol

cyan lynx
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That is strange. Something you did?

azure mantle
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prob

cyan lynx
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That last one seemed pitch perfect.

earnest spire
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Awesome

abstract umbra
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I'm still digging through our run

azure mantle
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show the highlights

abstract umbra
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the highlights are me taking a 400 endroll with a giant talon for 30 points of damage

azure mantle
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thats legit

abstract umbra
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and the negative highlight, is bubble flares being level based apparantly

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50 points of self help flares, not so useful

cyan lynx
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The disparity between squares and pures sometimes gives me a sad.

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The whole meta of glass cannons and tanks that don't deal a lot of damage always seems to give way to squares being overall the hardier choice in bleeding edge content.

abstract umbra
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yep, what gets me is that pures can do just fine playing as a square, but there is no way for a square to ever compete with spells

Obviously they will never see the same AS numbers, but they can still do the entire game swinging a weapon

azure mantle
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i do think this is one of those things you cant balance around whales

sharp raptor
# azure mantle i do think this is one of those things you cant balance around whales

This. Very much has been what I was worried about. I'm enjoying where it's at though. But yeah, there's no way I'm going to be able to ever enter combat on the level of whales. I feel like my gear is getting pretty good, but after decades of investment and effort, it pales in comparison to what some folks just tossed together over the last two Duskruins.

abstract umbra
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I agree. Its going to be rough

cyan lynx
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I dunno how I will kill the wyrm on my wizard.

zealous nimbus
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I mean in general the average person can just ignore the wyrm entirely but I guess the questions I'd ask is who are gemstones for? anyone who capped or like people who have already finished elite ascension because right now gemstones when they're realeased are the only reason I'd even attempt the wyrm

azure mantle
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me and warlciad will carry you sky man

cyan lynx
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Gemstones should be for everyone decently post-cap.

azure mantle
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ok fine, ill carry the whole server

sharp raptor
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Yeah, some of the "non stat/skill boost" gemstones sound really neat, and not really related to current ATP state.

cyan lynx
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I do think if wyrm groups have an empath, they will be well served.

cyan lynx
sharp raptor
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Anyone want to team up to take out the spectral wyrm haunting Fjallarhaart?

cyan lynx
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LOL.

abstract umbra
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sure, bring it on over to plat, we can give it a go

sharp raptor
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Heheh, there's not a whole lot I can do against a 121 undead with sheer fear and a DS of 928.

cyan lynx
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Oof.

abstract umbra
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what!! Heroism, bravery, t4 voln armor as a master, you're set!

zealous nimbus
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hmm undead you say...

cyan lynx
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I am kind of excited for what the wyrm's design means for other endgame bosses.

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The Hinterwilds sybil and the Hive's shardmind will be getting updates.

abstract umbra
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just make sure to give us a few hours of testing, you need it (not as much as we do! Free xp is the best xp!)

cyan lynx
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There are some already approved bonuses for killing boss monsters that should make them at least a bit worthwhile.

abstract umbra
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hey, I'm all for it! Just need to work out how to keep my greater moods and add me some Voln armor!

azure mantle
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im ready to give them the business

cyan lynx
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A spectral cold wyrm's eyes glint with liquid silver as she diverts a fraction of her concentration into restoring herself.

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It's so close to death, lol.

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A spectral cold wyrm shakes out one wing, then the other. Sparks of prismatic color play over the thin membranes, shimmering like quicksilver.

sharp raptor
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Hahah! Finally! 😄 Just took like seven passes and a whole lot of holy fire.

zealous nimbus
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I took an open roll to the liver for myharl so that he could slay it, thats the story i'll tell my kids one day anyway.

sharp raptor
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Couldn't have done it without you! Takes a team to take down a wyrm. I'm got close enough to dropping in that last pass with you that had you not been there to lead it in, I probably would have.

pliant hatch
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I am concerned the wyrm quest is going to boil down to having to find a group of warriors to carry me through it, lol. And if so, I guess it is what it is if you only have to do it once ever. And that's on my monk. I don't think my pures will ever do it.

pliant hatch
stuck blade
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Warpaths. I was the tank in platinum.

worthy knoll
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anyone know what damage type most of the wyrms attacks are? slash? crush?

stuck blade
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Acid, lol

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Looks like the vast majority of standard attacks are crush or puncture. Acid is what messed me up the most though

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worthy knoll
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thanks

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maybe 10 ranks of ascension resist acid might be warranted then

azure mantle
fair comet
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I really need to mitigate the wound stacking... is it correct that armor blessing would prevent the acid wound stacking (but not the physical stuff) whereas armor reinforcement only works on the physical?

sharp raptor
# 

On Feastday, the 7th of Imaerasta 5124, a plague of wyrms fell upon the icy, gale-battered Hinterwilds. Seemingly prompted by mysterious actions of the gigas wyrmcult, the skies filled with the silvery blue gleam of wyrmscale. Throughout the night dozens of the fierce scaled beast took to wing, the invasion prompting responses from the trio of gigas villages, each unveiling a series of massive mobile ballistae to defend against the flying menace. 

To secure the safety of the denizens of Cold River, a ragtag party of wyrmslayers took up arms, marching to stake claim over each ballista for themselves. Using the devices to fire gargantuan harpoons into the aurora-strewn skies, they provoked the wyrms to take to ground for more direct engagement. 

Throughout the evening the adventurers risked life and limb to fell wyrm-after-wyrm in a grueling onslaught lasting well into the witching hours of Restday morning, yet the brave wyrmslayers were victorious. 

When the last of the swarming draconic monsters shuddered in its death throes, life seeping from its writhing scaled figure to transform into a towering stone monument, those who dwell beyond the Long Snow all knew something had changed. The ever-lingering sense of dark magic and ancient threat emanating from the Boreal Forest seemed heavier and more foreboding.

Some set to honing their blades in preparation for the next wave. Others steeled their resolve to hunt down the wyrm-bound mutants to discover the motives of their wyrmcult. All breathed a sigh of relief as the chaos of the evening faded to the stillness of wintry snowfall.
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earnest spire
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It's not a terrible idea, but for resists you need 20% before you really notice.

sharp raptor
abstract umbra
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I’m guessing they will need to flag the creature as opposed to level of mob.

earnest spire
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It was an oops, but when they released HW initially, if you were logged in, I just "got" the milestone out of nowhere. Followed by a big bold yellow "Don't spend that AP"

abstract umbra
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Can’t have DR mess up those wyrm quests.

sharp raptor
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Yeah, or probably isn't functional at all or something. I hadn't honestly thought about it in about a year or so. 😆 Would be nice to knock it out just to have 100% milestones.

earnest spire
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So, I'm wondering if the game remembers. Even as it pertains to Gemstones. Once we down this version, and then the milestone and Gemstone goes live... if we'll just log on and be good to go, of if we'll have to do it again

abstract umbra
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Wouldn’t you “want” to do it again?

sharp raptor
earnest spire
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I'm going to fight the thing every time I see it spawn in. Going to start a Wyrm Sherpa business. "Just try to get a few hits in and not die. Also, don't let me die."

abstract umbra
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I asked for monks to have access to protect. If we get it, and we should! I’ll help with expeditions!

sharp raptor
earnest spire
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The biggest best upgrade is the whole prismatic barrier being part of the second phase instead of being randomly procd by flares.

abstract umbra
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Yeah, not having to gear up specifically to remove flaring gear is a huge win.

earnest spire
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Starsong may be the meta wyrm weapon now

sharp raptor
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It feels more manageable that way as well. I'm assuming when we hit the barrier that it's "whittling" it down (not relaly sure how it functions).

abstract umbra
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Save those item supercharger boosts! A real reason to use them outside the arena!

earnest spire
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It seems like you just need to brute force through the barrier until it shatters. It's like an extra health bar basically. I was also stacking bleeds with really good success

abstract umbra
earnest spire
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Shield bash and weapon cripple, specifically, were coming in clutch for me when it was landed. In flight I swapped to a hand crossbow and was using weapon pindown and such

abstract umbra
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I’m completely grounded as a monk. But now I’m tempted for those ranged ranks to add some air utility

earnest spire
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The days of Unga Bunga Waylay Spam are over. Rotating my tactics, keeping debuffs on it, and just knowing when to bail (acid clouds) were all key tactics.

abstract umbra
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May have to lose ambush and pick up ranged.

earnest spire
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The fight is also a lot longer if you're solo. Get the slush to avoid the hypothermia. The last time I took it down (even tho it was a bugged immortal one, I still count it), I kept Shadow Dance in my back pocket until the third phase

abstract umbra
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I’ll never be able to solo it as a monk.

earnest spire
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I know they're not intended to be solod, but nature finds a way.

pliant hatch
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KS monk not going to have much to contribute to a group outside of their choice of 1213 (stamina) or 1216 (precious DS). Can’t unstun anyone

glad spire
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So, that was a fun read through. (last nights antics)

earnest spire
worthy knoll
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Petition to change ranger trinket steam to acid, or have nature affect acid too haha

opal pine
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There was a brief time where nature resist was working on the acid attacks in the Hive, when it debuted on test

abstract umbra
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Couldn’t you use this - miniature gold wheel (40k bs) - to change a resist on a ranger trinket to acid?

opal pine
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Nope

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The ranger trinkets are only allowed to be the 5 types, as part of the script (matching the variations you can use when CASTing the buff version)

marsh canyon
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You can put acid resist on your armor or shield. Not a terrible idea.

stuck blade
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Auchand with the rewards or benefits to fighting the wyrm, could you pass along to consider a reset for daily abilities from spells such as 1150?

chilly valve
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After final Wyrm comes out with gemstones, Empath going to be real popular. LFG, Looking for Team Healer!

sharp raptor
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Yeah, I'm about... 500k xp from completing my current path goal, when that's done, I'm pumping in 15-20 AP immediately into ASC acid resist. I hate to spend BS on it for what amounts to one engagement where it will be really useful, but I can always later retrain ATPs for half price with a yearly reset.

tribal quarry
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Trying to catch up, but all this stuff was happening on the test server?

chilly valve
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Hiya, whats your enhancive score? what script are you wearing.... 1 animalistic and +40 logic..... NEEEEXT!

sharp raptor
tribal quarry
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Oh. 😮

Well... shoot. Guess I'll have to get wyrm-killing tactics ready.

rocky galleon
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Also, wyrm-dying tactics.

tribal quarry
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I already know those. It's called death's sting salve.

autumn sun
chilly valve
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Clerics with 3x/day self raise might be the best tanks lol, perfect target dummies

rocky galleon
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I think with the Wyrm release the battle standard pray functionality needs to be reworked. It was a bummer last night to use it… and ending back in Icemule.

chilly valve
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Same thing happened to me

pliant hatch
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For those who attended, is this fight still Warriorstone or can other professions contribute in meaningful fashion to the combat?

chilly valve
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Bolting wizards can wrack up damage if they go all out with boosters, not sure about CS or UCS.

rocky galleon
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I felt like I was useful by spamming 611; 612; vines; and the occasional volley. Before I died.

opal pine
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I died just trying to find the Wyrm last night. From a spacial anonaly /glowers at Leafiara 🤣

hasty garnet
stuck blade
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The new wyrm can be hit with 212, might take a couple of tries

abstract umbra
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I was able to contribute as a monk via flaring gear and using flurry stance, though had I beed able to better pay attention I may have used slippery mind. Krynch wasnt really of use in this case.

hasty garnet
sharp raptor
rocky galleon
abstract umbra
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I would love an undead version

sharp raptor
# abstract umbra I would love an undead version

Just need to trigger a necro ring from the Arena of the Abyss (EG) when you kill it. Standard will make a ghostly wyrm, Lich's curse will spawn a boss Spectral Wyrm (be warned the later get random special abilities like the regular boss monsters on top of it being a boss monster wyrm). Assuming this effect doesn't get removed anyway. It's always worked in the past, and worked last night... a little too well!!

hasty garnet
#

why does HW feel harder today? is it just post DR blues? it seems 200% swarmier even though I dont see more people here necessarily? I can't skin worth a damn anymore?

strong raft
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I’ve seen some new groups have moved into the area. With gemstones incoming, I’d expect the swarms to increase. The pits have a awful spawn rate so I’m digging it

marsh canyon
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I think the difficulty could use a boost.

stoic venture
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Their ranged hurling DS should definitely get a huge boost.

zealous nimbus
opal pine
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It's not me this time! 😆 (stupid busy day at work)

worthy knoll
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Just hypotheses, but if loot pressure went down due to dr thus increasing the skin value, then does it take more skill to skin them?

strong raft
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I’m at combined 400 ranks of FA and survival and haven’t noticed a change in skinning difficulty. I have noticed a drop in skin values though, but I chalked that up to the sorcerer who’s leaving open voids where I’ve been at.

marsh canyon
opal pine
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Just kill more things and get more skins - it's a numbers game. Eventually you'll collect enough good quality 😆

sharp raptor
# hasty garnet why does HW feel harder today? is it just post DR blues? it seems 200% swarmier ...

I've noticed an uptick in spawn rate. I'm really enjoying it, but it is noticeable. As a side note (potential cause?), I've noticed a handful of folks that seem to be honing some sort of new hunting strategy. They spend half an hour just running through super fast back and forth through an area without attacking anything (which seems to increase the spawn rate) allowing their reactive flares from attacks to ping off targets. I've never tried, but I'm assuming that must count as engagement. I guess it's sort of like the square version of void hunting.

Edit: New GS Hard Mode unlocked: cap a character without ever actively engaging a target.

craggy flame
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open voids in hunting areas? what is this, 1998? hehe

marsh canyon
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Aiming is a way better method of getting good skins. If the only wound on a critter you gather tusks from is a body shot instead of your usual head shot, your skin quality and skin value will both be far better.

craggy flame
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maybe the halfling cannibals should deem sorcerers to be a delicacy, and uhh, yeah...

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maybe not.

pliant hatch
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Walking through a hunting area and seeing open voids in almost every room kind of makes me wish the AOE updates never happened. It's really annoying. I dispel as many of them as I can!

hasty garnet
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Yeah a new hunter has definitely been voiding it up hehe. I will say (1) I didnt realize my zelnorn transmute went through so definitely was getting hit harder than expected.. but hmm with skins, I was at the point of never having to think about them, but as of today I definitely only get a few of them to count towards bounties. I could also just be button mashing more.. I've been a lot more assault heavy and less with the aiming. Could just be me

abstract umbra
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It’s felt a bit swarmiar to me in plat today.

frosty junco
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Maybe a bit swarmier today, but likely just due to people coming back to traditional hunting from the arena. Didn’t see anything particularly unusual though.

earnest spire
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It's swarmier for sure. 100% approve.

marsh canyon
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I stock skins in a shop in Icemule. They're all priced at approximately 3x assessed value for a bundle. Mostly it's just storage for me, but the payback in BPs and silvers is nice.

stuck blade
#

So is the wyrm summoning item live yet? The one that is supposed to drop off mutants?

sharp raptor
strong raft
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Was a description provided for this new wyrm summoning drop ? Want to make sure I highlight it

sharp raptor
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Not that I'm aware, unless someone found it on test. I didn't want to invest that much time out of prime. 😄

earnest spire
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I've been farming Mutants in Plat just to see if I could get one. Found a Legendary treasure instead. 10/10 would farm again.

worthy knoll
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Seemed pretty normal to me in my couple hunts today.

sharp raptor
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Ballista was at #29934, pulled wyrm, but no one is about. Will be heading back if anyone wants to join.

earnest spire
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I haven't seen a wyrm spawn in Plat since Saturday's shenanigans.

cyan lynx
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Yes.

earnest spire
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Oooooh

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Time to go genocide some mutants.

cyan lynx
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Okay there, Reverend Stryker.

earnest spire
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I understand that reference.

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||While rifling through the mutant's belongings, you find a burnished cold wyrm scale wrapped carefully in rags as if it were a precious trinket.||

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E'ry one just gonna be using these for alteration fodder.

sharp raptor
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Well done on finging one.

ashen tapir
earnest spire
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Wyrm summoner. Allegedly. I'm going to find a bunch and make a jacket.

earnest spire
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Don't give it to the frostling

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...gonna need to find more mutants.

abstract umbra
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I’m going to have to farm those now. Just for some wyrm scale armor

zealous nimbus
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Mutant bounties are going to be fun with the summoning farm

craggy flame
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Alter fodder is marked as fodder if it isn’t in a specific category of item. We can’t accept just anything these days.

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Those are a specific quest item so I doubt they will be allowed

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Will have to confirm

strong raft
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If the quest item can’t be used in alters, making the wyrm skinnable or dropping a wyrm scale for alters would be great. Earlier tonight, I e been headshotting these mutants hoping they drop one for an alter

abstract umbra
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You just crushed years of my dreams. I’ve been trying to get dragonscale armor for my warrior for at least a decade 😢

craggy flame
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not everything counts as alter fodder. sorry.

earnest spire
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||```You quickly step from hiding to deliver your waylay!
You swing a radiant steel katana at a silver-scaled cold wyrm!
AS: +834 vs DS: +526 with AvD: +21 + d100 roll: +83 = +412
... and hit for 369 points of damage!
Slash to the cold wyrm's chest!
That heart's not broken, it's only scratched.

Belching a toxic mix of acid and blood from her maw, the wyrm struggles for purchase on the disc, but her titanic musculature has no more strength within it. The wyrm topples over the side, dissolving into motes of color as she plummets out of sight. Her death throes manage to upend the platform, and you fall into the abyss, hurtling after the dying wyrm.
[Fjallarhaart, Ruins]
Woodland has begun to wipe away the ruined extremities of the village. Amidst the broken bodies of mouldering dwellings, the snow-laden boughs of fir trees cradle a cairn not yet deluged in snow. Driven head-first into the grave, a ponderous battleaxe with a ragged strip of cloth around the haft jabs toward the unfeeling sky as if in accusation. You also see a silver-scaled cold wyrm that appears dead and a grim gigas skald.
Obvious paths: southwest```||

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So... much fun.

craggy flame
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369 damage.... i like it when numbers have a pattern like that

craggy flame
sharp raptor
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I understand why you're saying it, but it seems to me like restricting using rare materials and drops for alterations mitigates one of Gemstone's most attractive features. It's been a trend lately, so it is what it is, but I'm not a fan of it at all. What harm is it if Kiel wants to have wyrm scales adorning armor? I just don't understand the pushback. It's like taking away fun just for the sake of taking away fun.

cyan lynx
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We're seeking some clarification on it.

sharp raptor
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Thanks! Either way, I know it's just a matter of following guidelines. Just piques my curiosity what/why some of those guidelins have come into place.

craggy flame
earnest spire
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Trying to keep us grounded due to power creep and to hand-wave that we've ascended into radiant dragon slayers.

craggy flame
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either way, folks higher up the chain than me are in the loop now and can make that decision.

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so we can have confirmation one way or another beforehand

craggy flame
earnest spire
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Radiant sounds more ascendy

craggy flame
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what if I want to ascend into darkness?

sharp raptor
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The radiant light in the shadowy darkness. Best of both worlds!

earnest spire
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I'm already shadowy. I want to be a radiant, benevolent Spirit of Meddling at the very beginnings of their proper ascension into something... moooooore.

craggy flame
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you cannot have the light without the dark, bla bla bla (waves hand dramatically)

earnest spire
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10 years from now, near the end of Ascension ++, I hope we're still walking around trying to shove rare drops into and onto everything interactable in the environment to try and summon Koar. So we can kill him. Then and only then, will be unlock the Big Game Hunter Milestone... and a unique title.

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A quick, monster-bold message flashes across the screen. "You did it! You beat Gemstone!" Then the next thing you know you're in the character mangler being asked to start a new character.

cyan lynx
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In DragonRealms.

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Or GS4-2.

earnest spire
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"Without Koar to protect the planet from the Drake birthed from the moon... there was no saving it. All fell to ruin." - Welcome to DragonRealms.

abstract umbra
earnest spire
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There is always someone better. That's just good storytelling.

cyan lynx
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I think there is plenty of roadway left in terms of power development.

earnest spire
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Heck yeaaaaah

abstract umbra
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Indeed

cyan lynx
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Wyrms are scary, but they're probably on the level of krakens in terms of sheer power.

abstract umbra
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I tried to get “some obviously fake dragonscale armor”. I’d have rp’d the character as pretending it was real.

rocky galleon
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Tell us more about these krakens…

cyan lynx
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What's a kraken?

craggy flame
sharp raptor
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Wyrmscales are just matured undansormr scales. I had a pair gauntlets as the later that I gifted, and the previous iteration of my robe was made of them. YEARS ago, I had legit "dragon scale armor" in GS - there was a weird series of events in GS3 the lead to its acquisition, but due to an even more complicated series of events it's long gone now (though I'm sure the register data for it probably still exists).

An item I always wanted to track down was called "The Crown of Storms" -- I have no clue the backstory on that one, but I knew who had it for a decade, and tried... many, many times to acquire it. Was the only proper-noun item I had ever seen.

craggy flame
sharp raptor
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Wasn't Sagan (assuming that's a character, sounds familiar), could ping you the character name in DM if you were just curious. Was a fun item.

earnest spire
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There was a sword called "Niima's SomethingSomething"

craggy flame
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nah, it's ok. I remember Sagan had black dragonscale armor back when I first started playing. Him and Kali taught me how to play Gemstone.

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but that's another story.

sharp raptor
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The folks that taught me the most about learning the ropes of GS3 were the early Icemule crew, back in the days before Thurfel got on the loose. Elminstir, Skyfawn, Riverwind, etc. Those are fun memories.

earnest spire
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FWIW, from the Grand Auction of 5123:a cylindrical wyrmscale herb kit

sharp raptor
earnest spire
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Ergo, I'm getting a wyrmscale jacket.

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The funny thing is, thematically, if you look at the description of the scale:||Fingers of frost perpetually dance across the surface of the feather-light scale before puffing into cold mist. Though silvery in hue, a dance of auroral color spills across the surface like an oil sheen. The scale is so thin as to be almost translucent, but is as unyielding as steel.||It makes kinda perfect sense as a material for a Night Shroud cloak (which my jacket is). Cus of verb traps like:You smooth the fabric of your black jacket, running your hands slowly along the jacket as it changes colors beneath the heat of your fingertips.

abstract umbra
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Who knows how it plays out. All the Tehir words, the gnome words. All impossible to get for awhile.

sharp raptor
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lol. I'm almost certain that the Spectral Gigas Shieldmaiden I just took out after someone left it wandering about had over 100k hp. Guessing a fluke of the boss monster random stats. I fought it and a fresh packmother at the same time. Took the Packmother out, and then continued for about another 10 minutes with (500-800hp waves of 5 second mstrikes).

pliant hatch
glad spire
pliant hatch
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Experienced the waves of Dazed debuff the NuWyrm applies to an area today, can't say I enjoyed it, seems like you have to just abandon hunting the area until it leaves

vestal niche
hasty garnet
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You open yourself to the ravenous void at the core of your being, allowing it to surface.  Muted veins of metallic grey ripple just beneath your skin.

A savage fork-tongued wendigo points skyward with a single gristly talon!
A savage fork-tongued wendigo closes its eyes in deep concentration...
The magic of the fork-tongued wendigo's spell unravels violently, spiraling into you and darkening your metallic grey veins to black!
Your strength swells and you are fortified by the absorbed energy!
You feel significantly stronger.
You feel a fiery sensation spread through your body, bringing with it a feeling of increased fortitude.
You feel a brisk sensation spread through your body, bringing with it extra energy and extending your physical reserves.

An echo of foreign thought brushes your mind.
  CS: +450 - TD: +327 + CvA: -21 + d100: +37 - -5 == +144
  Warding failed!
You are overwhelmed with sympathy for a savage fork-tongued wendigo.``` I feel like Ive been able to absorb sympathy before.. why was this a two part cast?
pliant hatch
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I have had that happen too. It's very weird.

sharp raptor
# hasty garnet ```A savage fork-tongued wendigo rasps out a dissonant, sing-song phrase. You o...

I don't think absorb has ever negated sympathy for me before. When it was one of the wyrm's primary spammy tools it irritated me to no end that I couldn't since there was no way I was going to outmatch its CS. Yeah, digging through my logs, I've been popped by wendigos almost immediately after activating absorb when I fail the ward (their CS is about 80-100 higher than my TD when I'm berserking).

I also get this weirdness...

  CS: +453 - TD: +353 + CvA: -46 + d100: +87 - +5 == +136
  Warding failed!
  You feel a sudden inexplicable fear!
  You blindly run west!

[Hinterwilds, Boreal Forest]
Glistening crystals of frost cling to the branches of a lone spruce, weighing the branches down with their sheer numbers.  The tree is a splash of blue-green color in a domain of the woods gone brown and skeletal from the unrelenting cold.  The old stalwart seems little disturbed by the decay around it, glinting brightly in its icy garb.
Obvious paths: east, northwest
Roundtime: 6 sec.

The magic of the fork-tongued wendigo's spell falters as it takes hold, its energies diminished.
You thunder out an ear-splitting caterwaul and follow a savage fork-tongued wendigo east!``` It's like it tries to absorb the fear thing after the fact.
hasty garnet
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yeah I've noticed that with the fear, too

sharp raptor
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Anyone find one of the (new drop) ||wyrm scales|| in Prime yet? Been hunting mutants pretty extensively the past day and haven't spotted one yet.

hasty garnet
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I havent

chilly valve
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Did they say it would a daily drop or like a once a week thing? (or month)

sharp raptor
earnest spire
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I've found two, but I'm not kidding I think I killed over a thousand mutants. They seem to be around the same rarity as the nacreous disir feathers

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I'm also not sure the summoning mechanic is live? We stuck a wyrm scale on every altar and in every orifice. Not sure if it takes multiple? Or we're missing something.

Just don't give it to the Frostling. That isn't it, lol

sharp raptor
earnest spire
frosty junco
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Nothing on my end in prime. Killed maybe 50-100 mutants over the last 24 hours

chilly valve
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Deinitely seems like a 1,000 mutant magnitude item or do you guys think i am off?

frosty junco
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Or rarer. Wouldn’t expect them to drop often

zealous nimbus
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gonna take him a long time to build that suit of armor at that rate

cyan lynx
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Your answers lie in Eldurhaart.

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😛

sharp raptor
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Nice! I had originally assumed the shrine probably had something to do with it. Guess I need to stop leaving those dragon statues everywhere. 😆 Have to find one first, though!

earnest spire
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That was the first place we looked and messed around. Will have to do more investigating later

cyan lynx
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I'd like to say you're getting hotter, but you're getting colder.

sharp raptor
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So, a list of things to try....
||```* Put the scale in/wave at the inferno in Eldurhaart.

  • Pray with scale in hand at the alter/offer scale at the shrine alter.
  • Do the same at the hinge.
  • Interact with it at the painted dragon statue.```||

Going to keep adding to this until I can get a scale and try them all. 🤣

hoary temple
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What's the expected outcome from scale tinkering?

craggy flame
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scale what?

hoary temple
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tinkering!

craggy flame
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what are you? a gnome?

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pshsh!

hoary temple
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Gimme answer or an invasion!

timid shuttle
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Boss gigas with big health?

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So all this started out as testing, but the scale is live and some wyrm tweaks are current if I read all this right for the past week or so?

abstract umbra
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I’d love to face a Giga with like 15-20k health. That would let me showcase Kiel’s skills and gear in an awesome way.

strong raft
sharp raptor
timid shuttle
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I'll head up

abstract umbra
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Your preparation to resist crushing damage helps to lessen the effects as you are struck!
  AS: +886 vs DS: +530 with AvD: +25 + d100 roll: +45 = +426
   ... and hits for 10 points of damage!
   Jarring blow to your back.```
sharp raptor
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Yeah!!! We summoned the wyrm and slayed it. With Archean's scale we found the solution! In the company of Archean, Raythiel, Geigon, Deddalus, and Myharl! What fun!

shy torrent
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that was neat

abstract umbra
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then it did an acid bath to my chest, and I had no way to stop it

timid shuttle
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It had to land on us 5x to kill most of us

abstract umbra
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260 health, monk with MBP, I will need to invest in acid resistance

shy torrent
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i think a short reprieve between phases would be appropriate, I think I was in RT during each phase shift

stuck blade
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We barely beat the wyrm again

timid shuttle
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Great job guys

earnest spire
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Team Plat was victorious!

timid shuttle
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You swing a gleaming rune-scribed maul at a silver-scaled cold wyrm!
  AS: +884 vs DS: +269 with AvD: +39 + d100 roll: +58 = +712
   ... and hit for 247 points of damage!
   Awesome shot collapses a lung!

 ** Necrotic energy from your rune-scribed maul overflows into you! **

   You feel energized!
You swing a gleaming rune-scribed maul at a silver-scaled cold wyrm!
  AS: +909 vs DS: +269 with AvD: +39 + d100 roll: +52 = +731
   ... and hit for 268 points of damage!
   Blow cracks a rib and punctures a lung.
  Breathing becomes a challenge.

You feel your rune-scribed maul straining back towards your foe!  Taking advantage of this, you manage to effortlessly reverse your momentum and strike again!

You take aim and swing a gleaming rune-scribed maul at a silver-scaled cold wyrm!
  AS: +909 vs DS: +269 with AvD: +39 + d100 roll: +44 = +723
   ... and hit for 209 points of damage!
   Right hand mangled horribly.

 ** Necrotic energy from your rune-scribed maul overflows into you! **

   You feel energized!
You swing a gleaming rune-scribed maul at a silver-scaled cold wyrm!
  AS: +909 vs DS: +269 with AvD: +39 + d100 roll: +23 = +702
   ... and hit for 267 points of damage!
   Massive blow smashes through ribs and drives the cold wyrm's heart out the back.
You swing a gleaming rune-scribed maul at a silver-scaled cold wyrm!
  AS: +909 vs DS: +269 with AvD: +39 + d100 roll: +95 = +774
   ... and hit for 286 points of damage!
   Massive blow punches a hole through the cold wyrm's chest!

 ** Necrotic energy from your rune-scribed maul overflows into you! **

   You feel energized!
You swing a gleaming rune-scribed maul at a silver-scaled cold wyrm!
  AS: +909 vs DS: +269 with AvD: +39 + d100 roll: +41 = +720
   ... and hit for 223 points of damage!
   Hard hit shatters weapon arm.```
earnest spire
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So uh... is there anyway to get rid of the acid mist?

stuck blade
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Call wind or breeze maybe

earnest spire
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And I need to say this again. Holy crap that is such a fun encounter.

timid shuttle
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Brrrpppppp!

strong raft
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that was a fun interaction for sure. wierd though, i didnt get ported over with the team. here was the messaging from my end

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** Raythiel's blow slams the cold wyrm with concussive force! **
... 45 points of damage!

As you wander toward the edges of the disc, spills of color embrace you. Your consciousness stretches and spreads, straining over what feels like a great distance, before your surroundings suddenly snap back into focus.
[Hinterwilds, Boreal Forest - 29925] (u7503145)
A frozen stream cleaves across the pathway, glinting like fine crystal in the undulating radiance from above. The sinuous thread of ice disappears into the woods to the north, which form an impenetrable tangle of white-dusted greenery several paces from the trail's edge. You also see a gnarled dark wooden crook adorned with sinuous patterns, some dark homespun robes patterned with serpentine symbols, a plain modwir coffer, an enruned silver trunk, a virescent nephrite shard, some wolifrew lichen, a small platinum nugget, a rotting haon trunk and a gold-tipped heavy spear.
Also here: the body of Deddalus (prone)
Obvious paths: northeast, west

earnest spire
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It only takes 5 people, seemingly at random, to the 'final stand'

pliant hatch
strong raft
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counting deddalus, there was only 5 of us. ah well, there will be more attempts.

vestal niche
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Eyes whirling sluggishly, nearly insensate from the ravages of battle, the wyrm lifts her head and raises one gleaming claw. Staggering from the effort, she braces herself and roars with a fury that makes the surroundings shiver. Power crackles along her scales in wildly dancing threads of rainbowed light. She spreads her wings wide, and a river of color surges through the surroundings, emanating from every direction. The wyrm vanishes amid the torrent of hues.
A wash of colored light consumes Raythiel.
A wash of colored light consumes Geijon.
A wash of colored light consumes Archean.
A wash of colored light consumes Myharl.

pliant hatch
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It’s not lost on me that the pure is the only casualty (apparently). Warriorstone

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timid shuttle
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Salute to @sharp raptor Wyrmslayer. We had a squad go out for that

strong raft
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Oh, I think I know what happened. I was using eherbs and it has this feature that moves you back to the original room. Shoot

vestal niche
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yah, i saw this a moment later...Archean steps forth from the runestone, haloed in a momentary shimmer of spiraling color.

timid shuttle
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Lot of it's "Flying" then land on us to worry about

abstract umbra
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I had to eat some acid, it really didnt like me

timid shuttle
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I said before we went out "We have the squad to kill it." Awesome time all

sharp raptor
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Was hoping... ||the doors would open afterwards||, but maybe that's the next part that get's released after gemstones is live.

earnest spire
timid shuttle
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World first, eh?

earnest spire
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First summon.

timid shuttle
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1 for 1 😉 I was dead near the end 3 of you walked out?

strong raft
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We should bring a breeze imbed next time for the acid clouds

timid shuttle
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Just SMR on the landing probably? I was encumbered so I got hit by a bunch for 4-5 rounds

earnest spire
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I could have swore I tried breeze on the undan acid clouds (the same), and it didn't do anything? That was forever ago, tho. It mighta got updated to work

timid shuttle
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Also here: Raythiel, Archean, Deddalus, Myharl

strong raft
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I’ll take the participation trophy !

timid shuttle
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It all worked together. No participation trophy here

sharp raptor
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Wyrmslaying is a team effort. Also, @strong raft, it was your scale that summoned it!

zealous nimbus
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I think purify air should get rid of it, give clerics a reason to be there

strong raft
abstract umbra
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next chance, I'm investing in acid resistance. I'm tempted to dump a ton of xp into shield use. I hate that Monks dont get access to shield maneuvers. Put acid resists onto my shield, since it's only for a very specific encounter

worthy knoll
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obviously magic redux should be a thing for pures, basically the full inverse of physical redux, even up those defenses, since kill time/strength has been more evened up at this point

But yeah acid resist seems like potentially a thing for this

strong raft
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Found another scale. Want a round two for tomorrow night ?

zealous nimbus
sharp raptor
abstract umbra
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I dont suppose anyone with drive and initiative would want to go into the wiki and start filling out some of the fields. It looks like no one has ever decided to do so. I lack all forms of drive currently (broke my ankle, lots of drugs after the surgery, I can post pics if proof is needed!).

All that aside, do any of the mobs in HW use cloak of shadows, or anything else that kills you when you attack them? Mainly looking at Mutant areas, disciples, Underarmor dudes, etc

timid shuttle
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Next time I'll be lighter and not carrying somewhat encumbrance. Maybe Leaping CMan too. I got the points to counter all those "Flying" rounds

sharp raptor
# abstract umbra I dont suppose anyone with drive and initiative would want to go into the wiki a...

I've considered it more than a few times, but really the entire Hinterwilds section needs to be almost completely restructured. It's less a hunting ground and more an entirely new region with locales, settlements, lore, multiple hunting grounds, unique treasures, special encounters, shops, services, NPCS, special areas, bosses, etc. It will be a big undertaking, and I haven't had the gumption to say, "Hey, let's rebuild this from the ground up."

timid shuttle
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We didn't exactly walk into this like hunters. It was lets see if we can solve the summon puzzle, which did then we got happened to be stone cold killers and downed it too. We could have easily failed after spawning it

sharp raptor
abstract umbra
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I totally get that. I was just trying to find out information, the last time a Mutant hit me with a spell it stunned me for 14 rounds. So I hadnt gone back for a long time, but now with the scales dropping from them, I plan on hunting the area, and was just looking for more information on them.

sharp raptor
abstract umbra
stoic venture
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I think Kiel is referring to the individual creature pages (originally), which use a template that should not be modified.

abstract umbra
sharp raptor
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Ah! Yeah, in that case should be able to just start updating the existing pages.

pliant hatch
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If I've followed discussions here correctly the last week or so, it's possible that you could participate in a wyrm kill but somehow not ascend to Quest Land after since it just takes 5 randomly?

earnest spire
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That is part of the reason I'm curious if we're at a point with the Wyrm where the game will 'remember' if we've downed it when both the Milestone and Gemstone system go live. I'm assuming, "No", and personally I'm okay with that... but it'd also be neat to just log in one day, or be in the middle of something while in game and BOOM, you get the milestone, messaging from some Chad Gigas to head to Eldurhaart for a ceremony, and we can get started.

This way there would be a lot less, uh, pressure? Plat where I'm at won't be an issue. Prime, tho? I worry folks are going to be clamoring and there will be too many excited players and too few Wyrms when the system goes live.

pliant hatch
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Lucrative business opportunity for enterprising warriors to charter wyrm hunts to assist the lesser professions

fair comet
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I'm just chuckling at lesser professions

stuck blade
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I’m not sure if it would be easier in plat for us with a warrior. It’s all I can manage just to keep jaired healed. Empath healing is not meant for this type of battle

The wounds come so fast and stack horrendously. You could burn 3 1150s and still not be able to keep up

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We legit need a pause in between phases for players to get a breather and heal

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Then again Auchand is probably shaking his head at a rogue, monk, and empath downing it.

pliant hatch
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This is not meant to be an anti plat comment so I hope you don't take it as such, but plat is a different beast when it comes to accessibility of insane gear. I don't think it's a fair yardstick to balance against. Prime has a lot more people walking around with normie gear, on the whole, heh. Like there are no empaths in prime with 750 AS doing melee. I want to see a pure casting empath being able to kill one. I doubt it.

stuck blade
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Well my point being if we’re struggling…

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I’m not even doing damage. I’m healing, in rt, stunned, or on my back. My platemail and big health regen is only thing keeping me alive most of the time.
Im not even healing really, just transferring and eating herbs from survival kit. No way will you keep up mana healing.

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If jaired wants to take on another tonight I’ll stream the encounter.

pliant hatch
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I have 180 HP and am expecting to die of blood loss the first time a wyrm mstrikes me, lol

sharp raptor
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There's a lot of unanswered questions in regards to the gemstone quest. While the wyrm seems to be the entry point and maybe the initial gemstone, we do know it's a world-wide, globe-trotting affair. I imagine there will be several challenges and riddles to solve along the way. Things we don't know: at what level of engagement will suffice. Will landing a blow and surviving suffice? Will survival through the battle be required, or will everyone who engaged it be granted access after it is defeated. What about entering the engagement during the second or third phase? In the all, we're making a lot of assumptions about what's required to get the quest rolling, I think.

stuck blade
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I took a few 80+ hits in platemail that is 21 cer crit and 10 dmg padded

pliant hatch
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I'm a KS monk with 46% redux in MBP iron skin so while I'll probably be able to BS my way through the encounter on the back of UCS, I have yet to see anything that makes me think this won't just be absolute hell for pures

vestal niche
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I was unprepared for the fight, but at 578 TD is a bit of a high bar to overcome and feel like a meaningful contribution is made

pliant hatch
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Yeah see that right there, lol. Geijon was pasting clips of him mstriking the wyrm with 200something DS and sorcerers are expected to overcome 578 TD. I don't eveny Auchand here but I don't see how you make this fun for pures without lowering those numbers some.

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Warding is such a bad system.

stuck blade
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The expectation might be you have some transcend ranks. You can debuff the wyrm with 212 for sure even at level 100. Takes a few tries

pliant hatch
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Meanwhile a fresh cap KS warrior is probably more use in the encounter than a 80m sorcerer

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Have any ranged weapon users done it yet? I'm imagining you pick up wounds that prohibit firing a bow extremely quickly, that's another potential issue

earnest spire
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Ranged is super good. About half the fight the thing is in the air.

stuck blade
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More I think about it the more I’m convinced that transcend was probably released for the wyrm fight. Looking at the logs with jaired who has 10 ranks it’s night and day between him and me not getting hit by maneuvers

earnest spire
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I was swapping to a hand crossbow and plinking at it with Pin Down and barrage. Where I was falling short there was... my crossbow is super mid. I'm looking at picking up a Starsong or something to get extra flare potential per hit.

sharp raptor
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Balance between squares and pures is always a challenge, and probably never going to be on an completely even playing field. Example, for Myharl, the biggest threat to him is Gigas Disciples (just a regular spawn). He can walk into a room with a pair of them, in full defensive with his KS absorb going, and still get thwacked and have limbs blown off in under 2 seconds. If literally anything goes awry with his setup, I have to dive into emergency mode and hope for the best (which typically ends with a rush back to recover a couple lost limbs). He can be rendered completely inept by simply walking into a room and having his right arm blown off. 😄 And, those are just normal spawns.

earnest spire
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When I read back the logs, and Ruse and I have talked about this, is just how much I think Transcend is helping me... because my character is just straight up EBPing the thing. What's getting me is the acid breath, and whatever the heck hax it does every time it takes off and lands. Eventually I get enough wounds stacked on that my DS and EBP tanks, and it starts landing some hits, but I can Stun Move away, Vanish, etc.

Knowing when to go, "This is bad, we should move and regroup." is going to be a crucial tactic going forward. The spiciest moment of our ecounter yesterday was we were on the Final Stand, and it put up an Acid Cloud, and we couldn't do anything about it or move away, so it became a race against the clock to kill it before we got literally melted to death.

pliant hatch
sharp raptor
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We don't speak of anomalies here. (shudders) 🤣 If you don't speak it's name, it can't hurt you!

worthy knoll
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besides anomalies making me need to go back and heal, I hunt disciples all day on my sorcerer, but I do have like 550 sorc TD or so

pliant hatch
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I think the TD just flat out needs to be lowered. That or Melivn has to come back to be able to land shots on them. I don't see how a near 600 TD is fun for anyone trying to fight it. Meanwhile the DS can be dropped into the 200s.

worthy knoll
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we said this before months ago in testing, the magic defense is way too high compared to the DS, because of how pushdown works

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just a shame that the "final" version seems to just be squarestone, and if this is the gateway to gemstones that really is just gonna be so very very unfun for most pures, it's literally just gonna be trying to find people to carry you and hope that you can somehow live till phase 3 so you can get credit

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honestly I think this might be a situation you might go borrow someone's full plate and put it on just sit in defensive the full fight

earnest spire
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I wish dispel got rid of the clouds, even tho I know that doesn't reeeeaally make sense since they're not magic, but a natural element.

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Might take a paradigm shift on how we approach the game. This isn't going to be an unga bunga, ;bighshot affair. Maybe some folks don't even worry about engaging the wyrm directly and worry about dispelling area effects, or taking out the creatures that walk in, unstun the damage dealers, keep them hasted, keep hitting them with 117, etc

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...heck let's go full MMO Raid Boss tactics and get in a voice chat. Let's give it the respect it deserves.

worthy knoll
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I mean, doing other stuff is fine, I can certainly kill anything else that walks in the room no problem, that doesn't stop the wyrm from 1 shotting me because I'm a pure though