#[Official] Hinterwilds

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sharp raptor
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In village center now

timid shuttle
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Wyrm? Enroute

rocky galleon
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Wyrm incoming @timid shuttle @sharp raptor

timid shuttle
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Darn. Grilling dinner

frosty junco
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Wyrm steak?

earnest spire
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Wooo! Finally pulled off the double:Excruciating pain lances through your hand as the smooth bone ring on your disfigured finger is awakened! Necrotic energy, in the form of an ichor green haze, trickles from your ring and encircles a silver-scaled cold wyrm, strangling its lifeless remains until a ghostly cold wyrm is squeezed into existence!``````You quickly step from hiding to deliver your waylay! You punch with a low steel kunai at a ghostly cold wyrm! You feel a bit of luck touch you. AS: +749 vs DS: +448 with AvD: +22 + d100 roll: +72 = +395 ... and hit for 340 points of damage! You hear a sound like a child weeping as a white glow separates itself from the cold wyrm's body and rises into the heavens. Flying badly, the battered form of the great cold wyrm is wracked by a terrible convulsion. The wyrm wheels into a death spiral, wings and tail rippling limply in the air as she plummets toward the ground. The cold wyrm crashes down with a thunderous impact and does not move again. ``````You also see a silver-shot black stone wyrm and a silver-shot black stone wyrm.

near arch
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Did it spawn with boss mods? That would be an exciting fight

earnest spire
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It was basically the same experience just couldn't make it bleed.

sharp raptor
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The Lich's Curse spectral ones are rough. Like, sheer fear combined with sympathy is... yeah... rough. I'm 99.9% sure that had it not been someone with uber gear I was taking out for a hunt that it would have been impossible. Wyrm + boss monster buffs. 😬

stuck blade
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I need to try to solo a wyrm in plat

agile plinth
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what are the best resistances for HW? besides a ranger trinket

cloud orchid
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where are you gonna hunt?

lot of crushing damage weapons between berserker great axes, draugr greatswords and disir lances

agile plinth
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What kind of damage is mana burst? and the valravn SMR attack? what about the wyrm's SMR and its main attacks?

azure mantle
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impact disrupt disintegration

cloud orchid
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Mana burst is everything

Mana Burst is a single-target damage spell that excites the mana weave around a target and causes it to flare with multiple cycles of energy criticals. Each cycle of damage, the damage flavor is randomly chosen from several energy types. Training in Mental Lore - Manipulation provides a chance to cause a fourth damage cycle. The chance is ( Mental Lore - Manipulation ranks / 1.5) percent. The potential critical types are: Disintegration, Disruption, Electrical, Grapple, Plasma, Vacuum.

proven nova
cloud orchid
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well....

A silver-scaled cold wyrm just came through a crumbling red stone maw.

That's one way to die

lime swan
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Sparkfinger is missing after relaunch

tough swan
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So is Rawknuckle.

lime swan
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The village has been abandoned!

pliant hatch
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Baffling why they aren’t a persistent NPC like… any other NPC in the game I can think of

lime swan
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Sparkfinger is back, at least. The wyrm is harder with no slush resists

chilly valve
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Request for Wrayth clickable "ask about bounty" for Rawnuckle please

chilly valve
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A flayed gigas disciple points a flayed finger at you!
The force of a flayed gigas disciple's power warps the air as it surges toward you!
CS: +497 - TD: +421 + CvA: -8 + d100: +82 == +150
Warding failed!
A nebulous haze shimmers into view around you, plunging inward to envelop your right leg!
A jagged chunk of earth floating near you intercepts the attack!
A jagged chunk of earth floating near you intercepts the attack!
A jagged chunk of earth floating near you intercepts the attack!
The whirling barrier of earthen debris surrounding you slows, then shatters into dust.
A pure golden latticework springs up from the surface of your black leather armor and shields you from some of the damage!
Some pitch black leather armor marked by golden rings of varying sizes partially deflects the onslaught of the disintegrating attack.
... 1 point of damage!
Surface of right leg etched to little effect.
Cloudy tendrils writhe throughout your form, ravaging you for 28 points of damage!
(Need to make this essence belt feature into elite earth ascension skill)

opal pine
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Sparkfinger has gotten lost again 😬

Edit: and apparently Rawknuckle too. Guess I'm not doing HW bounties this morning
Double edit: Looks like there was maintenance and I just happened to log in right as things were coming back online

pliant hatch
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Do any other NPCs just poof when the game reboots or is it just the HW ones? Don't really get why they can't be "normal" always-there NPCs

sharp raptor
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It's unusual, but I'm assuming there's a reason they get populated that way. Might have something to do with the weird layer of Hinterwilds-specific variables that they mess with. Like how all of Sparkfingers offerings only function in the Hinterwilds.

azure mantle
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why would i get this in HW?
Halfwhistle says, "I'm sorry, but I don't seem to have any tasks that are suitable for you. Perhaps you might want to head to another town that provides a more challenging environment for you?"

chilly valve
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You're too good for this game, time to go outside. Do you not have ascension bounties turned on or some thing like that?

lime knot
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Did you disable asc bounties?

tribal quarry
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Under level 100?

opal pine
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Are you a filthy hobbitses?

near arch
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are you level 121?

proven nova
azure mantle
azure mantle
heady creek
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Ask task about ascension

Im guessing

fair comet
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ask dude about ascen [both,ban], and there's a 3rd option I forget

azure mantle
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Thank y’all

glad spire
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@sharp raptor * Time to sing a dirge for Myharl! I hummed a dirge for you, wasn't up for singing. What got you?

sharp raptor
glad spire
lime swan
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Has anyone seen the frostling since the disconnect? :paranoid:

pearl hearth
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I have, yes.

lime swan
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I just saw him, too. Ok, just checking - it was starting to have been a while. I was afraid the alchemist got him!

civic mantle
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You gesture at a silver-scaled cold wyrm.
CS: +590 - TD: +588 + CvA: +25 + d125: +57 == +84

lol okay.

lime swan
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just solo'd my second wyrm

civic mantle
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I think we need to bring its DS up to 1100 on only allow it to drop 50

we really need to lean into the 1% balancing.

lime swan
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why is its TD so absurd

civic mantle
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I dont know it's been pointed out a million times

chilly valve
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Its more of a skill gap....

pliant hatch
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That’s just insane. I don’t get how anyone expects warding pures to engage with this creature.

exotic haven
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yeah, i had to alternate 117 on myself and 118 bolt to be able to hit it consistently 😑

chilly valve
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As a wizard I have to press multiple buttons AND remember to 515 every 60 seconds..... It takes a certain mental fortitude to do it all! (God forbid i forget to TAP my sigil armor.... that is advanced gameplay)

lime swan
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i just plink it with arrows until it dies
TAP doesn't last long enough to matter for me

exotic haven
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but can you do 100 damage every 6 seconds for 26 mana...

chilly valve
lime swan
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what potion?

chilly valve
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You know which one! And it is the racial one ya traitor....

lime swan
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I'm never going back!

azure mantle
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its the one that makes youa berserking warrior

lime swan
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I went through the data from the last wyrm

16,061 health (from arrows), 287 arrows that did damage with an average of 57 per

Flare damage:
470 animal (15 flares)
260 T5 dispel (15 flares)
20 elemental blade (vacuum) (3 flares)
750 damage or 4.67% of total

No trend of flare damage increasing toward end of fight - though there was some clustering of flare damage frequency in the last 2/3rds

57 armor grapple (9 flares)
70 essence belt (8 flares)

Wyrm "diverts a fraction of.." HP boost 29 times, which assuming 10k base health would put it at 209 HP per boost. But I did lose track of the wyrm a couple of times

A "1" represents an arrow strike that did damage, but no flare. V is vacuum, D dispel, and A animal

This message did seem more frequent toward the end of the fight, but she was still able to put her shield back up most of the last third of the fight
"The wyrm looks wearied and the last glints of corruscating color crackle away from her scales."
I was hoping there would be some pattern to the shield coming down but I did not see a strong trend or correlation with anything. I don't know if she used "diverts a fraction" more often at any point during the fight

1 1 10V 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
1 1 1 1 1 1 1 5V 25D 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 10D 5V 15A 1
1 25D 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 60A 1 1 1 1 1
1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 25D 1 1 1 1 1
1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 25A 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 20D 1 1 1
1 1 1 30A 1 35D 30A 1 1 30D 1 35A 1 5D 1 1 10D 1 1 20D
1 30A 1 25A 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
1 1 1 1 25A 15D 1 1 50A 1 1 40A 1 1 25A 10D 15A 1 1 1
1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
1 1 1 1 5D 1 25A 15D 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 10D 1 1 1
1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 40A 1 1 1 1
1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1

chilly valve
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So I only need cast 80-100 boulders at it..... EZ PEAZY. Kill it in 90 seconds....

lime swan
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I have not tried that yet - let me know how it goes

proud schooner
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Question regarding getting swallowed by quivering sanguine ooze, what methods of attack are allowed/not allowed against the organ to get you out? I tried doing a search but not sure I found conclusive evidence for one thing or another. I see Ondreian had issues at time of release using pierce/slash attacks to break out. What's the preferred methods of getting out of the ooze?

lime swan
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i grab a runestaff. bow doesn't work

proud schooner
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punch and kick also didn't work at the time for Ondreian when he posted his log in 2021.

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Trying to see about updating bigshot with a routine to get out, but need help on figuring out what types of attacks are supported.

sharp raptor
twilit wave
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I thought it was just crush attacks against the organ

pliant hatch
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I was disappointed to learn hand crossbows don’t work for attacking the organ since I thought they were cudgels when wielded as melee

twilit wave
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I don't know if there's a size limitation on the weapon like there is in a roa'ter or a crawler.

proud schooner
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so what weapon bases do 100% crush...

twilit wave
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Mace, cudgel

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Oh, whip

proud schooner
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whip, cudgel, mace, ball and chain, quarterstaff/runestaff

twilit wave
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Mace seems most relevant to me, given some folks keep them around for skinning out of habit

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Maul, if you're going big

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But again, I'd be worried about size limitations (though haven't tried, myself)

proud schooner
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closed fist should be crush, so why doesn't PUNCH work?

twilit wave
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Punch is its own crit table, which I assume is why. But fair question

proud schooner
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So: whip, cudgel, mace, ball and chain, runestaff, quarterstaff, war mattock, maul, cestus, knuckle-duster, blackjack.

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That's a LOT of types to search for to find on someone. Let me see if I can't do this then. 66 total! Thanks for the assist.

twilit wave
cloud orchid
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I don't think you need 100% crush. I never set my bastard sword to anything other than default and it always damages the organ

twilit wave
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And bastard sword implies "dagger size isn't required"

cloud orchid
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yeah, definitely doesn't have to be small and definetly can be a two handed grip. I've done it plenty.

twilit wave
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Maul works fine, spear doesn't work at all. (Just tried)

pliant hatch
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I know mace and runestaff work

lime swan
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wyrm dead

rocky galleon
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Got to announce wyrm first before announcing its dead.

proud schooner
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Perhaps any weapon that can do crush damage works even without selecting a type?

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Could always try to attack with existing weapon in hand, if doesn't work, try to find something we know for sure will instead.

opal pine
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Can you ATTACK with fists?

lime swan
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pretty sure I've tried attack, and punch, and neither worked

azure mantle
opal pine
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Morning stars can puncture. You know, with the spikes an all 😁

proud schooner
# azure mantle spikestar

I only included types that ONLY do crush damage. But if any weapon that could possibly do crush in it's dmg type, then yes, morning stars would also fit (which is what a spikestar is)

azure mantle
lime swan
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I ran the numbers for this wyrm, and got 145 damage per "diverts" health restore assuming 10k base (26 "diverts," 13772 total damage). So given the ~15 minute wyrm fight, it's recovering about 300ish health a minute.

proud schooner
marsh canyon
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Handaxe doesn't work, but a knife does.

twilit wave
opal pine
sharp raptor
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I think this is topical? Was playing around with Midjourney for personal use out of curiosity to see if I could figure out how precise prompts could be directed and whether experience as an art director would carry over to AI. So, one of the things I decided to try was to generate a depiction of Myharl and the wyrm in the Hinterwilds. After a lot of nudging, and a bit of coaxing this ended up being the result. Was an interesting experiment. Didn't want to post it in the art thread, but felt like it was fun enough to share here.

MYHARL-AND-WYRM.JPG
tardy fjord
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that is pretty epic

rocky galleon
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Love it. But I’ve never seen you turn your back to a Wyrm.

sharp raptor
rocky galleon
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Lore checks out. Proceed.

marsh canyon
azure mantle
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can you symb return from being swallowed?

proud schooner
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Nope, must get yourself out or be consumed!

cloud orchid
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Beseech armor ftw

proud schooner
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tested that it works there?

glad spire
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Ok, that's the second time a warrior has mentioned Beseech armor. Darn it Kerl and Jaysehn, what secert warrior thing are you two doing that I don't know about. I was starting to think you'd both secretly become paladins and were doing their Beseech ability.

heady creek
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Voln armor iirc

2x/day Symbol of Return ability that works while stunned/immobile/webbed - normal favor cost. Must already possess knowledge of Symbol. Activated with BESEECH.

proud schooner
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Normal SYM OF RETURN doesn't work there and you're not stunned/immobile/webbed. Makes me wonder if using the BESEECH ability (if it works for escaping) is a BUG or use as intended.

glad spire
twilit wave
marsh canyon
cloud orchid
sharp raptor
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So, I just got back from a hunt, had healed down at the herbalist, sold my gems and skins, dropped off my boxes, and was selling stuff in the pawnshop when this happened and knocked Myharl prone in the FWI pawnshop front room...A tattooed gigas berserker lets you slip from her grip, sending you tumbling to the ground.Weird.

frosty junco
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She’s a long way from home

low heath
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Well, why are you bringing a berserker in to the pawnshop?

sharp raptor
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I made a new friend, I suppose.

chilly valve
sharp raptor
low heath
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In seriousness, please do bug that in game if you haven’t already. If you recall getting gripped and then being able to leave the room, do note that and it falling off while you were outside HW.

sharp raptor
sharp raptor
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So reguarding the weirdness with the gigas berserker mentioned above... I... don't even know how I would fit this into a bug or what I would bug exactly... so just posting the details here so there's record, and I'll bug the room I fought the berserker in with a link to this post.

The last interaction I had with the berserker was an attack that did not kill her (see below), in the middle of a non-focused mstrike during a berserk [at 21:47 ET in Fjallarhaart, Ruins L#-30003]

/// ...other targets in mstrike ///

You take aim and swing a glowing white sacred warsword at a tattooed gigas berserker!
  AS: +651 vs DS: +446 with AvD: +32 + d100 roll: +85 = +322
   ... and hit for 115 points of damage!
   Powerful slash!
   The gigas berserker's left leg is severed at the knee!
   A tattooed gigas berserker falls to the ground grasping her mangled left leg!

 ** Emerging from your sacred warsword, a fiery spectral maiden coalesces and launches straight toward a tattooed gigas berserker, engulfing her in a searing sphere of fire! **
   ... 25 points of damage!
   Flames burn hole in chest exposing ribs!

/// more targets in mistrike... ///```

[In the middle of Myharl's berserk non-focused mstrike, the berserker attempted to grab him.. and did, but he broke free]

```[SMR result: 198 (Open d100: 187, Penalty: 1)] 
Stooping down from her vast height, a tattooed gigas berserker reaches toward you with a gigantic fist!  Massive fingers close around your midsection as the berserker tries to squeeze the life out of you! 
... 1 point of damage! 
Attempt to snare chest shrugged off. 
The berserker lifts you into the air, trapping you in her huge fist! You strain forward with all your might and manage to tear your way through the restraints holding your legs in place!"```

[Somewhere in the next 5 seconds the berserker ended up in the "dead" state. There was no message regarding her death or anything else about the berserker. But seeing her dead I searched her and foud a "thin orc hide vest" on the corpse.]

```You search the gigas shield-maiden.
You discard the shield-maiden's useless equipment.
She didn't carry any silver.
She had a shard of streaked blue spectrolite on her!
Interesting, she carried a thin orc hide vest on her.
She had nothing else of value.
Rot consumes a brawny gigas shield-maiden's body, leaving little behind.

The orc hide vest is important, because the following happened when I was unloading from the hunt, when I took the vest out and inspected it

[at 21:49 ET in in Cendadric's Collectibles L#-16352 (Mist Harbor pawnshop front room)]

>get vest
You remove a thin orc hide vest from in your scale cloak.

>inspect vest
You carefully inspect your orc hide vest.
You estimate that a thin orc hide vest can store a small amount with enough space for several items.
You determine that you could wear the vest anywhere on your body.  The vest appears to serve some purpose.

A tattooed gigas berserker lets you slip from her grip, sending you tumbling to the ground. ***

>look at vest
You see nothing unusual.

>sell vest
You offer to sell your orc hide vest to Cendadric.
Cendadric takes your orc hide vest, glances at it briefly, then hands you 937 silver coins.

>"Ah, what?
You deeply ask, "Ah, what?"

*** This caused Myharl to be laying down in the pawnshop floor.

[End of Weirdness]

marsh canyon
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Hilarious. She just wanted that sweet vest back.

glad spire
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Orc hide vests are all the rage this season.

chilly valve
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Anyone use somnis in HW? Does it have SSR issues with high level mobs?

cloud orchid
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I can tell you SSR from Warrior cries and Voln symbols are fairly effective in HW, including against pit of the dead stuff. but don't expect 100% success. I also have max Inf

marsh canyon
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The success level of warcries is high. No idea how Somnis works, or if it's an appropriate flare. I'm interested in other flare choices though, as I've got 2 weapons that I could use transmute on for some nice impact.

worthy knoll
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Been a while since I tested, but from back in feb or so, for somnis it's highly highly dependent on your influence, if you actually have capped influence, maybe a bit bonus? it should work with probably 70% success in HW. If you do not, and have say 80 inf for 15 bonus instead of 25, that drops to like 20%.

Like there is a huge difference.

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basically if you don't have capped inf perhaps a bit of inf enh, I wouldn't use greater somnis, if you do, it's really really good

chilly valve
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Lol I have 80 influence.... tanked stat....

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Do I need to add +40 influence to my enhancives set.... has it come to that??

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Hopefully I can test it on test server if wyrom does that

worthy knoll
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yeah, that's the hope

wraith wave
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K so DRs here. Can any staff answer my plea on telling us which bane category the wyrm falls under so I can avoid spending a fortune on a single creature bane?

worthy knoll
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TBH I'm not sure it has a bane category

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I don't think it falls into any of the ones I'm aware of at least, it's basically like a worm that cocooned and turned into a flying thing (the undersarmers are larvae form wyrms)

near arch
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yeah I feel like we have talked about this in the past and there is no reason to think wyrms fall into any bane category, like the majority of enemies in the game just aren't in a bane category

worthy knoll
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it, also being a boss mob, makes it fairly unique, and even less likely to fit into an existing one

viral aspen
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*** WYRM BANE! Coming soon to a DR near you. ***

near arch
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if this is something you feel strongly about I would recommend finding people with the various category banes and asking them to come swing at the wyrm, it can all be figured out with player testing!

nimble canyon
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Clearly we need an otherbane

near arch
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the bane that banes all creatures that do not bane themselves

nimble canyon
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wouldn't that give a damage boost to (when attacking) most players without high end gear?

lime swan
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seems like wyrm bane wouldn't do anything noticeably useful

sharp raptor
# lime swan seems like wyrm bane wouldn't do anything noticeably useful

Even with as super focused as I am on hunting them, I'm not sure I'd opt for wyrmbane either. Might be fun for a secondary build made specifically for wyrms... like a lance or something else to lean heavy into the dragon/wyrm slaying theme. Would be neat if it worked like those old creature bane weapons that did the double strike thing... (vaguely recall that being related to mandis crystals for some reason, but maybe remembering incorrectly). Bane weighting would be of no use, flares would be mostly pointless, I suppose the AS boost would work, but would be of minimal use.

glad spire
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Because of warriors and their bonding or paladins and their bonding. I've felt that any banes aren't truly worth the hassle due to their singularity. That's just me. I mean, if I could more easily swap out a weapon and not suffer the lack of bonding I'd be more for banes.

twilit wave
lime swan
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sometimes I bump my bow AS up by 50 and it's a slight difference :p

wraith wave
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See? There is a 100% bane option for this thing. I just don't want to pull that trigger. Noun specific creature bane would cover this thing. And yeah +AS is about the only real bane benefit that'd be useful against it. Flare bane? HA most of the time it won't even work against it.

near arch
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unironically if you want to figure this out your best bet is to go find players with banes and ask them about their experience with the wyrm and offer to take them for a holiday if they haven't tried it

lime knot
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This is why EPB and UD bane were so popular though, and to a lesser extent magic bane. They work on so many things at cap that you get it a chunk of the time and that's good enough. Obviously UD also had the greater undead bane permabless before sanc/304 on errything existed but, even plain ole lesser undead bane was the second best bane at cap to me. There's always money in the undead stand.

viral aspen
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My first face to face encounter with a wyrm.

This one got first blood but I'm calling it a draw and still claiming to be undefeated against the wyrms...

A silver-scaled cold wyrm prowls in, maneuvering her vast bulk with astonishing grace.

Your hands glow with power as you invoke the phrase for Earthen Fury...
You gesture at a silver-scaled cold wyrm.
The ground beneath a silver-scaled cold wyrm begins to boil violently!
Fiery debris explodes from the ground beneath a silver-scaled cold wyrm!
[SMR result: 69 (Open d100: 55)]
She dodges out of the way!

***Continued next post...

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Cold rage blossoms in a silver-scaled cold wyrm's slit-pupiled eyes as she focuses her fury on you in a flurry of vicious attacks!
Striking like lightning, a silver-scaled cold wyrm snaps at you with a maw full of serrated fangs!

AS: +706 vs DS: +691 with AvD: +32 + d100 roll: +88 = +135
A hit!

Your surroundings melt away as the air around you shivers with a large flux of mana. Abruptly, time wrenches violently to give you a second chance. This time, you're better prepared.

Striking like lightning, a silver-scaled cold wyrm snaps at you with a maw full of serrated fangs!
AS: +706 vs DS: +891 with AvD: +32 + d100 roll: +19 = -134
A clean miss.

A silver-scaled cold wyrm lashes out with a scythe-like talon at you!
AS: +706 vs DS: +691 with AvD: +35 + d100 roll: +75 = +125
... and hits for 1 point of damage!
Glancing blow to your right leg!

Her hind legs bunching powerfully, a silver-scaled cold wyrm sweeps her immense tail at you!

AS: +706 vs DS: +683 with AvD: +42 + d100 roll: +94 = +159
A hit!

Your surroundings melt away as the air around you shivers with a large flux of mana. Abruptly, time wrenches violently to give you a second chance. This time, you're better prepared.

Her hind legs bunching powerfully, a silver-scaled cold wyrm sweeps her immense tail at you!
AS: +706 vs DS: +883 with AvD: +42 + d100 roll: +6 = -129
A clean miss.

A silver-scaled cold wyrm lashes out with a scythe-like talon at you!
AS: +706 vs DS: +683 with AvD: +35 + d100 roll: +32 = +90
A clean miss.

Her hind legs bunching powerfully, a silver-scaled cold wyrm sweeps her immense tail at you!
AS: +706 vs DS: +683 with AvD: +42 + d100 roll: +31 = +96
A clean miss.

A silver-scaled cold wyrm lashes out with a scythe-like talon at you!
AS: +706 vs DS: +683 with AvD: +35 + d100 roll: +29 = +87

//END first Wyrm Encounter!

timid shuttle
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You lived!

viral aspen
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Yes! That's definitely a win. 🙂

glad spire
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Any fight that you can walk away alive versus a wyrm, I'd call a win for sure.

rocky galleon
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@sharp raptor Wyrm

timid shuttle
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Ah darn. Probably gone

sharp raptor
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Opps. Was tied up last night and missed it.

livid sedge
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@sharp raptor How many have you killed now? Need to look into a title for you 🙂

sharp raptor
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I think I'm at about 110. Festivals slowed down the kill count a bit. 😆

livid sedge
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100 should get a custom title for sure!

heady creek
azure mantle
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The cold wyrm hits you, but her attack bounces harmlessly off of the incredibly hard surface of your augmented chain!
!R>

pearl summit
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Adamantine win.

rocky galleon
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@sharp raptor Wyrm.

rocky galleon
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@sharp raptor Wyrm.

sharp raptor
glad spire
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Always in that order. Coffee, dragon, blades, banshee scream and then off to battle.

lime swan
#

starsong on the wyrm is a thing of wonder...just ripping apart the swarms of everything else around it

lime swan
#

first time seeing dispel fail on an anomaly...

You gesture at a chaotic spatial anomaly.
The power of the spatial anomaly overwhelms your spell!
Nothing happens.
Cast Roundtime 1 Second.

versed sail
#

#892754010925305876 message

and 530:
#892754010925305876 message

I think it might be a timing thing instead of just a flat "first dispel fails"

lime swan
#

ah...I think this is the first time I've seen it after hundreds of dispels, so I figured it was some skill check

spark ravine
lime swan
lime swan
chilly valve
#

Wow, you took that hit like a champ, it almost looks like you are now a giantman warrior!

pliant hatch
#

is 316 being entirely ineffective vs valravn (as in, it doesn't even register them or try to ward them) a bug or a lore thing

marsh canyon
#

Anomaly damage is disruption and what else?

versed sail
#

grapple

marsh canyon
#

No one dies from the grapple right? It feels like there should be a vacuum critical in there, but I don't think there is.

versed sail
#

depends on how you look at it I guess. The grapple damage comes first, so usually the killing blow comes from the disruption yeah

lime swan
#

the disruption is the worst, but sometimes the grapple seems to stage a bad time for the disruption nothing will protect you from the open roll iirc - not even 40% disruption resists

languid summit
#

I gave up my disrupt resist for just that reason

chilly valve
#

Disrupt, disint, and vacuum res are the crucial ones for HW. Should ascension 10 each min.

marsh canyon
#

Yeah, my experience is the grapple looks horrifically painful, but the disruption kills you.

frosty junco
cloud orchid
#

How much protection does 10 asc resist give, in practice?

chilly valve
#

I got alot of protections that all seem to synergize but seeing a valvran hit me with 5 instances of damage and they all get resisted and end up being like 1-10 dmg each is satisfying. I got cri padding, damage padding, sigil dmg padding, resist.... tough to say

cloud orchid
#

Im wondering how much value is there with me already having 40% magidux

lime swan
fair comet
#

The magidux is way better because it’s applied before crit padding whereas resists apply after crit padding, so you have to take a real big hit for resists to really matter

cloud orchid
#

Thats what i was figuring

lime swan
#

A silver-scaled cold wyrm focuses her gaze upon a fluffy white cat and lets out an ear-splitting roar that spans multiple octaves!
[SSR result: 363 (Open d100: 16)]
Unnatural terror descends upon the cat and she opens her mouth for a scream that dies in her throat.

tribal quarry
#

And people say wizard familiars have no combat benefit!

(Relatively few enemy maneuvers can target them, but some can and this is apparently one of them!)

lime swan
#

I'm not even sure what that one does 🤷

lime knot
#

Now the wyrm has gone too far.

shy torrent
#

it was taken care of

tribal quarry
#

"Hmm, I'm in the mood for some Hinterwilds hunting."
goes to Hinterwilds, gets two foraging bounties in a row

cloud orchid
#

enjoy your 100 bounty points
sorry....110

lime swan
#

TIL you cannot dirtkick valravns because they don't have eyes. makes sense

upbeat zephyr
#

Still think it's wild people are soloing the wyrm. I walked into a room with it this afternoon, didn't try to fight it and got instantly blown up.

spark ravine
#

Instantly blown up? Damn. Shouldn’t have sold that plate.

worthy knoll
#

Step one to soloing the "current" wyrm, be someone who doesn't need to attack with spells, step two, have high redux and plate or 750+ ds, step 3 don't get sympathied and killed by other critters.

upbeat zephyr
# 
A golden adamantine breastplate etched with the symbol of Phoen on the chest partially deflects the onslaught of the crushing attack.
  AS: +806 vs DS: +441 with AvD: +25 + d100 roll: +73 = +463
   ... and hits for 129 points of damage!
   Lucky shot rips through bone and muscle sending left leg flying.
You fall screaming to the ground grasping your mangled left leg!```
Not the best start
worthy knoll
#

The other thing that helps fighting it tremendously if you can deal enough damage, is the earth shield ability from essence belts, as it'll block the first set of hits from it. That's my plan if we ever need to kill it for ascension stuff. Go group with a couple warrior friends and immune myself for a bit and hope they win haha

opal pine
#

Yeah, the answers are: warrior redux, or massive DS. And apparently barkskin:

A silver-scaled cold wyrm lashes out with a scythe-like talon at WARRIOR!
A crackling crystal blue latticework springs up from the surface of WARRIOR's augmented chain and shields him from some of the damage!
Some ensigiled augmented chain partially deflects the onslaught of the slashing attack.
The layer of bark on WARRIOR hardens and absorbs the attack!  The bark crackles as it crumbles to dust.

Striking like lightning, a silver-scaled cold wyrm snaps at PALADIN with a maw full of serrated fangs!
The layer of bark on PALADIN hardens and absorbs the attack!  The bark crackles as it crumbles to dust.

Striking like lightning, a silver-scaled cold wyrm snaps at BARD with a maw full of serrated fangs!
The layer of bark on BARD hardens and absorbs the attack!  The bark crackles as it crumbles to dust.```
upbeat zephyr
#

this was awesome to see though:
The cold wyrm hits you, but her attack bounces harmlessly off of the incredibly hard surface of your adamantine breastplate!

opal pine
#

I haven't solo'd, for the record, but it does feel good to see some investments paying off:

The thorny barrier surrounding you blocks the attack from the cold wyrm!

Moving your left arm into a defensive position, your sable buckskin cloak suddenly flares to life as silver energy forms a shield in front of you that turns solid enough to block a silver-scaled cold wyrm's incoming blow.
The energy that thrums through your sable buckskin cloak subsides, leaving a tingling sensation on your left arm.

Striking like lightning, a silver-scaled cold wyrm snaps at you with a maw full of serrated fangs!
  AS: +686 vs DS: +861 with AvD: +32 + d100 roll: +69 = -74
   A clean miss.

Striking like lightning, a silver-scaled cold wyrm snaps at you with a maw full of serrated fangs!
  AS: +686 vs DS: +861 with AvD: +32 + d100 roll: +53 = -90
   A clean miss.

Moving your left arm into a defensive position, your sable buckskin cloak suddenly flares to life as silver energy forms a shield in front of you that turns solid enough to block a silver-scaled cold wyrm's incoming blow.
The energy that thrums through your sable buckskin cloak subsides, leaving a tingling sensation on your left arm.

The thorny barrier surrounding you blocks the attack from the cold wyrm!
One of the vines surrounding you lashes out at the cold wyrm, scraping a thorn across her body!  The cold wyrm flinches slightly.

4/6 attacks outright ignored. Eonak arm intercepts doing work too (in other encounters).

lime swan
#

the high DS really helps me - but I still take 200 end rolls sometimes

#

Having a defensive build really pays off. Those shots are in full leather - I can't even imagine how easy it would be in robes with 1202 and maxed lore. Crush (25%), acid(40%), and cold(25%) resists are good for its SMR attacks.

Having any strong CS casters around you is a high liability when they inevitably get Sympathied

#

Found some near 200. No slash resists, but going to add some to my bracers later

📎 message.txt
shy torrent
# 
Your kroderine full plate rises in temperature as it pulses vibrant purple.
Several eerie black tentacles reinforce your kroderine full plate to defend you against the incoming attack!
Some glistening kroderine full plate partially deflects the onslaught of the crushing attack.
  AS: +681 vs DS: +466 with AvD: +32 + d100 roll: +35 = +282
   ... and hits for 1 point of damage!
   Whiplash!

 ** A spike on your kroderine full plate jabs into the cold wyrm! **
   ... 1 point of damage```
twilit wave
#

Fair's fair.

versed sail
lime swan
shy torrent
#

yup

lime swan
#

That was amazing - you killed that wyrm faster than anyone else I've seen

shy torrent
versed sail
#

Nerf wizards

lime swan
#

More satisfying than anticipated

Light blossoms in a shining winged disir's eyes, shining and splendorous, as she regains control of her body.
Streamers of aureate light trail after a shining metallic spear as a shining winged disir swings it down at you!
Some black leathers partially deflects the onslaught of the puncture attack.

The winged disir hits you, but her spear shatters into a thousand pieces against the incredibly hard surface of your adamantine bracers!

** Black light radiates from your black leathers and you feel 4 mana surge into you! **

lime swan
cloud orchid
#

I personally cannot come close to soloing that thing. 277 DS, even with KS dux and cer8 plate aint cutting it

worthy knoll
#

need like some of that cer20/20 plate haha

cloud orchid
#

Heh. Ive hit the point of pulling back on my power gains atm. I stopped asc and am working trading

upbeat zephyr
#

Noticed the wyrm I saw had 200 more AS - wonder what I did to make it so angry! WYRM SMASH PUNY PALADIN

azure mantle
#

ive soloed it a few times just berserking it if anyone ever wants to get a kill on it just let me know ill help

lime swan
#

Ok, I got the solo wyrm fight down to 3 minutes. Kept it bound with rooting flares so it couldn't Sympathy. Starsong for suppressive fire

#

You nock a wooden arrow tipped with a bodkin point in your sephwir long bow.
You take aim and fire a wooden arrow at a silver-scaled cold wyrm!
AS: +705 vs DS: +329 with AvD: +25 + d100 roll: +21 = +422
... and hit for 81 points of damage!

** A bolt of energy leaps from your black leathers and sets the sigils along your white robe ablaze. Tendrils of cerulean energy lash out at a silver-scaled cold wyrm and cage her within bands of concentric geometry... **

[SMR result: 172 (Open d100: 90, Bonus: 28)]
The bands constrict around a silver-scaled cold wyrm!

** As a resonating song emanates from your sephwir long bow, it entwines you in night blue wisps of ephemera. Suddenly, a star-sparked rush of percussive pressure from the bow whips out at a silver-scaled cold wyrm! **
Corruscations of color play along a silver-scaled cold wyrm's scaled hide, disrupting the offensive energies!

** As a resonating song emanates from your sephwir long bow, it entwines you in night blue wisps of ephemera. Suddenly, a star-sparked rush of percussive pressure from the bow whips out at a brawny gigas shield-maiden! **
... 25 points of damage!
Pressure on the gigas shield-maiden's organs causes internal bleeding.
The gigas shield-maiden is stunned!
You feel the unnatural surge of necrotic power wane away.
Riotous black energy races along the surface of the bow, slender tendrils rising up to coalesce into the ethereal form of a gaunt crow.

** Wings spread and intelligent eyes agleam, a gaunt ethereal crow circles in the air before diving with an ear-piercing caw as a murder of distorted black crows lurch around it on a wave of disruption! **

Corruscations of color play along a silver-scaled cold wyrm's scaled hide, disrupting the offensive energies!
A turbulent cloud of black light lashes out from a silvery sephwir long bow with an echoing caw!
The arrow breaks into tiny fragments.
Roundtime: 3 sec.
Roundtime changed to 1 second.

civic mantle
#

DS: +329 <----- This needs to be like a constant 1k, so its in line with its TD.

fair comet
#

is the rooting from the combo of multiple sigil items?

pliant hatch
fair comet
#

but isn't the encounter being somewhat reworked?

pliant hatch
#

Last we knew, yes, but no indication that any of the rework would involve changes to the TD

civic mantle
#

if we're balancing to the %1 warders we should balance to the 1% melee 🤷

chilly valve
lime swan
#

does someone have a milking pail I can borrow

marsh canyon
civic mantle
#

oh personal attacks cool.

glad spire
#

But it's ok when you do it? I mean, I took it as humor myself.

cloud orchid
#

or maybe ignore the wyrm as a carnival game until it matters?

twilit wave
#

Ok, enough with the back and forth, please.

marsh canyon
# civic mantle oh personal attacks cool.

No more personal than suggesting square AS should be balanced to a 1% success. As someone who's been playing a warrior since before redux and SMR and all of the other improvements we've had, I can sympathize with your being unable to hit wyrms, and that should be fixed. It's worth noting that your TTK is probably about 1/3rd of a squares based on the loot returns you shared here, so you're still in some ways miles ahead of squares.

civic mantle
#

I can do just fine with it, I didnt say TD needed a nerf i said the DS needed a buff, its pretty clear that its being solo'd which isnt the goal of it using the AS DS system

twilit wave
#

Folks, could we please leave it at that? The Wyrm is what it is until it's something else. The argument doesn't need further beating

civic mantle
#

Its a public forum i'll keep sharing my personal feelings on what I'd like to see with it. Players or staff dont have to agree with it thats fine.

marsh canyon
#

Very few people can solo a wyrm. Earthdiver (a wizard) is apparently having some good success, and I appreciate him sharing his methods. I'm not going to cry about it because I haven't yet solo'd a wyrm, I'm going to pay attention to what's working for him.

twilit wave
civic mantle
#

Its awesome that people can solo it, but I think its pointing out areas that need to strengthen up for it. I am fine to not be able to hit it 100% of the time even on the top end. I would expect that from what the intention of this mob is.

chilly valve
pliant hatch
#

I don't think there exists a configuration whereby I, as a cleric (and formerly as an empath) could even consider solo'ing the wyrm, which is fine since you're not supposed to be able to do that, but I'd like to at least be able to consistently damage it as part of a group

civic mantle
#

We're adults we can talk and move past it.

I'm sorry you feel opening up a discusion that might have people not agreeing is "chummimg the waters" though.

I am happy to discuss the finer points of the mechanics without commentary that is attacking.

#

Outside moving the DS dial it could maybe just have tons of resistance unless x people are in the room with it. If the goal remains a group fight.

marsh canyon
chilly valve
#

just make the SMRv scale off spell aim like clerics have... seem to work. Its really the ascension folks with issues which means they should have the TPs

civic mantle
#

We have 715 which is -25 td no roll but even still its TD is tuned through the roof, mostly as a result that its hard to push down TD where other systems have lots of options. Maybe the spell disbaler reivew will adress some of that

chilly valve
#

Wizards can excel at AS/Smrv/ and mutant Cs.... sorcs should also be able to excel in CS/smrv and maybe mutant weird AS

twilit wave
nimble canyon
#

715 is one of the best TD pushdowns though, so the fact that it also leads the pack....

near arch
#

Technically if it did scale it would give sorcerers better scaling than any other pure in the CS/TD space

versed sail
#

It stances to attack then tack on a status effect or two and gg DS

near arch
#

Because they’d be scaling with level twice

civic mantle
#

25 TD in most cases is a lot of TD

pliant hatch
#

715 doesn't scale but it at least can actually hit without needing to ward the thing, lol.

nimble canyon
#

The only downside is the lack of a mass version, but with warding when I mass interference I rarely get more than 50% my targets, which is only a lot better in... my... cases

twilit wave
near arch
#

Anyway I would agree that it’s not much fun to not be able to ward the wyrm on your best day because it’s not like you can pull out the second best tool from your bag

pliant hatch
#

Short of buying spellbooks I ain't getting any more CS, and even then it wouldn't be a lot in the grand scheme of things. The wyrm's TD is just out of bounds and needs to be lowered

civic mantle
#

Oddly I could pull out the second and third best tool from my kit and hit it more

near arch
#

Well okay you could haha

twilit wave
pliant hatch
#

You could take like 50 off the wyrm's TD and it would still be difficult to hit

chilly valve
#

How high can sorcs get their bolt AS? time to switch strategies for the Wyrm!

twilit wave
civic mantle
#

I could go full Goat and bring a lance and an animate and bolt. But it still leaves warding down and out which isnt great. Im also sitting on 110m exp so other might not have said flexability

nimble canyon
#

you could dispel flux it to death. bring snacks

near arch
#

the wyrm is going to one day be the entry point for charms, so we're going to need to be able to participate in the fight in some way to get charms. I am okay saying you need like 7x, several million xp, whatever in order to start doing charms, but I would be pretty bummed if I needed a spellbook to do charms

marsh canyon
#

It's an ascension hunting area, and wyrms are the pinnacle. The bar should be high for everyone.

near arch
#

and it's certainly concerning if a spellbook is insufficient haha

civic mantle
#

I can 711 it too and just bring snacks

pliant hatch
twilit wave
marsh canyon
civic mantle
near arch
#

and I think it's perfectly good feedback to say "the wyrm's TD is so high I can't even interact with it"

twilit wave
#

And they can stay in different places: there is certainly other content where it's the other way. But Tikba's point about charms entry resonates

civic mantle
#

Again to be clear I dont want the TD lower i want the DS higher 😂

chilly valve
pliant hatch
#

TD being super high would make sorta sense if the wyrm could be death crit. But it can't. So the fact that a 1115/317/719 can be leathal on a 130 endroll really isn't relevant. The wyrm is a non-crittable damage sponge. Let us hit the thing

civic mantle
#

Forcing its defense up where people can miss means it becomes a true bring your friends fight youll need them

versed sail
#

But then how will warmages hit it without a 700AS

chilly valve
#

Maybe the wyrm's TD should be like a spell that gives it +100 TD but can be broken after excessive magical hits/cast and then when it breaks it regens slowly back to 100 over time. Woohoo more hoops for sorcs!

pliant hatch
#

The wyrm is the sole thing I dislike about Hinterwilds currently, because when it shows up, if it's in the zone I'm working on a bounty in, it's like "cool gonna afk 15 mins hope it despawns or Myharl kills it" because even if I go with a group I can't do anything

civic mantle
#

Demons 2.0

near arch
#

I still think the wyrm should just have a state where trying to melee attack it SMRs you and a state where trying to cast on it SMRs you

#

if we really want to go for broke it should SMR everybody when one person does the raid wrong but let's do that for the next wyrm maybe

twilit wave
#

I think the "I can't hit it without spell books" is interesting, too. If it's the entry point to charms, maybe it's ok you have to go rent extraordinary gear for an hour? I hadn't thought about that.

#

I don't think that's generally ok. But this is kind of a weird case.

near arch
#

I don't think they have rent to own for spellbooks!

nimble canyon
#

Things LIKE the wyrm are a good gateway to charms. I don't know that I like the idea of it being the only one. The Hive could have a different boss that's more tuned for warders possibly?

pliant hatch
#

I can hit it, just not reliably, and just not meaingfully hard when I do land a hit. I have 0 spellbooks and that's unlikely to change. I have max worn wisdom, max ascension wisdom, 12x acuity, and mana infused armor. so for 3 minutes every 15 minutes I can kinda sorta land bad dinky hits on it. lol

lime swan
#

depends if the goal is "no one can solo it," or "most people cannot reasonably solo it."' introducing cutthroat mechanics to prevent any hope of soloing is kind of boring, imo

near arch
#

I also think as I have said before that if they really don't want anybody soloing the wyrm they should give it cman garrote

#

or the equivalent!

civic mantle
#

You gesture at a silver-scaled cold wyrm.
CS: +590 - TD: +588 + CvA: +25 + d125: +57 == +84

pliant hatch
#

looks great, fun and engaging

opal pine
lime swan
#

and I'd be all for lowering the TD as long as people aren't landing crazy (200-500) damage hits. i think the target should probably be like 50-150 damage a strike. i think waylay can be outside of this target range, along with DC or Pain

civic mantle
#

Thats 50 CS over base sorc CS

twilit wave
#

So there's "can I hit it", "can I survive it", and "will having me there kill all my friends because of sympathy"

civic mantle
versed sail
#

Wyrm sympathy is a maneuver, so there’s at least a path to blocking it

lime swan
nimble canyon
#

How silly would it be to load up sigil with your native spells just for the CS boost on the wyrm (or is that already being attempted)?

twilit wave
fair comet
#

wyrm needs redux?

nimble canyon
#

it would also let you take 515 without worrying about cooldown or an SK, but you're not solo if you have a wizard laying around so kinda moot there

civic mantle
twilit wave
nimble canyon
civic mantle
#

10 more CS from the sigil staff scroll would still put me missing on a 57 roll by 7 points too

twilit wave
#

I'd rather a weird training requirement than a pay item. Like have side-by-side work on CS or something

lime swan
#

sympathy undermines most groups anyway - so it's a weird creature to cast as "needs a group." any warder would kill me in a heartbeat if they get sympathied

nimble canyon
civic mantle
#

it should be but since the mob is so tuned up it really doesnt play out base on its level

near arch
#

in theory although we must all be providing like half a point of FoF, yeah

nimble canyon
#

The only other thing I could think of is using the alchemy CS boost potions but you'd still be chugging two of them per shot. It's not fun/good. If they lasted for a few casts I'd call them a good option. Like... using some consumables on a boss is acceptable game design to me.

civic mantle
#

also during testing he added in a like enrage feature if the group got over X people which doesnt really bode well for FoF, I took 4 people out to the pits and I couldnt FoF a disir (its been a while since ive tested this though and im unsure anything happened to fix or change it)

near arch
#

like if the wyrm is level 120 and has 70 MOC then having ten people attacking the wyrm at once would lower its TD by 3, very approximately

civic mantle
#

in any event, its cool people can solo it. I dont really care one way or another if the TD comes down, but I'd like to see everyone no matter the system of combat they are using basically be in the same boat on how often they should be hitting this thing. If I should only be getting hits in like 30% of the time thats cool, but I think its fair that everyone is in that boat on the top end then. If thats not the goal then yea the TD needs to be adjusted some what.

marsh canyon
lime swan
#

I appreciate that it still has relatively normal mechanics

civic mantle
azure mantle
civic mantle
lime swan
civic mantle
#

719 doesnt do close to that damage on the wyrm just fyi. 711 is consistant though

lime swan
#

i would expect 200+ damage from each cast of DC or pain, judging from my stalker logs of people hunting in the Pits
(i'm watching all of you)

civic mantle
#

719 hits outside a few mobs is rare to see over 200 damage most of the time. Also you can only get so many casts off before it become 19 mana 702. pain is CAPPED at 200 damage for reasons.

#

DC will do over 200 damage to angry ghost that is true its one of the few mobs ive see it on.

lime swan
#

Sigil flares and suddenly pain becomes 400 damage a hit, too. I haven't seen someone with a starsong'd staff yet, but that was adding 36ish damage a hit for me in Fjallarhaart

civic mantle
#

I was running briefcombat in reim the other day and landed a massive hit and I was like what the heck?! but looking back through the raw log it was a twined casted from sigil and I was like ohhh okay... 😂

#

losing surita for starsong after talking about how we cant land hits often with CS seems counter productive to me 😄 in terms of the wyrm.

lime swan
#

Starsong won't work on the wyrm. Just thinking of damage-adding flares
That said, starsong is probably one of the best flares for wyrms because of the crowd control. At least for me

opal pine
#

Won't work well, anyway. Some flares still get through on the wyrm

marsh canyon
opal pine
#

But the wyrm is absolutely anti FlareStone V, which really makes my Flare Incarnate gnome very sad.

marsh canyon
#

I have no flares, other than S6 flares. Different builds for different people. I am tempted by starsong though

lime swan
#

Looking back at one of my logs, my animal flares did 3.6% of the total damage to a wyrm
If I'm thinking of this right, a sigil staff double flare would raise that to 12.5% (from just the sigil staff)?

civic mantle
#

you need to land the hit though

lime swan
#

I'm sure you'll hit the wyrm once it's ready

civic mantle
# 
A roiling crimson angargeist takes 251 damage and is DEAD!!
A eyeless black valravn takes 132 damage and is DEAD!!
A eyeless black valravn takes 177 damage and is DEAD!!
A withered shadow-cloaked draugr takes 118 damage!
A withered shadow-cloaked draugr takes 200 damage and is DEAD!!
A roiling crimson angargeist takes 296 damage!
A roiling crimson angargeist takes 123 damage and is DEAD!!
A withered shadow-cloaked draugr takes 141 damage and is DEAD!!
A shining winged disir takes 75 damage and is DEAD!!
A roiling crimson angargeist takes 268 damage!
A roiling crimson angargeist takes 391 damage and is DEAD!!
A withered shadow-cloaked draugr takes 97 damage and is DEAD!!
A eyeless black valravn takes 194 damage!
A eyeless black valravn takes 142 damage!
A eyeless black valravn takes 63 damage and is DEAD!!
A eyeless black valravn takes 177 damage!
A eyeless black valravn takes 97 damage and is DEAD!!
A grim gigas skald takes 83 damage and is DEAD!!
A withered shadow-cloaked draugr takes 179 damage and is DEAD!!
A withered shadow-cloaked draugr takes 120 damage!
A withered shadow-cloaked draugr takes 35 damage and is DEAD!!
A eyeless black valravn takes 123 damage!
A eyeless black valravn takes 78 damage!
A eyeless black valravn takes 103 damage!
A eyeless black valravn takes 91 damage and is DEAD!!
A roiling crimson angargeist takes 596 damage! (oh boy a twin cast!)
A roiling crimson angargeist takes 20 damage and is DEAD!!
A eyeless black valravn takes 148 damage and is DEAD!!
A shining winged disir takes 164 damage!
A shining winged disir takes 57 damage and is DEAD!!```  719 casts, like I mentioned the angry ghost take big hits from DC, the wyrom also get resistances/immunity to elemental which basically make its usless after a few casts coupled with once it has no mana its just expensive 702.
near arch
#

Need somebody whose job is to send mana to the wyrm to keep DC damage high

#

OH NO THE FUZZ

versed sail
#

Raise what to 12.5%?

nimble canyon
#

Wait... is that honestly gma? It costs the player mana

low heath
#

It's not possible, so it's whatever you want it to be!

#

(I'm mostly giving Tikba grief)

marsh canyon
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Why would it be GMA? Also: "woop woop, it's the sound of the police"

nimble canyon
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I thought it was a good idea!

near arch
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You can’t actually do it to mobs, doing it to players to 917 them would probably be many kinds of policy violations haha

low heath
#

It's pure hypothetical since you can't actually do that.

proud schooner
#

does demeanor disallow mana sharing? If so... then how is it policy violation, they should have set their demeanor properly!

low heath
#

The wyrm now regards you in a cold demanor.

nimble canyon
#

The 917 is a violation. So get a monster to do it for you

near arch
#

It would genuinely be fun if savants had a spell that did damage and gave you mana to enable fancy combos but that’s way off topic

nimble canyon
#

If burst had a drain component?

lime swan
#

This guy is pretty great. These are all consecutive hits and Pain did 200 each time.

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versed sail
#

Ah! Yeah close to that on average. Reduced minimally by other damage sources like flares, and echoes eaten up by non-direct damage spells

lime swan
#

Above post not intended to complain, critique, or anything of that sort. Simply admiring the efficiency. But it's where my 200 figure came from earlier

versed sail
#

XXX is pretty great

twilit wave
lime swan
#

I have to turn the camera off when he goes into the blood sinkhole

civic mantle
#

yea pain is capped at 200 its always going to do that with those end rolls on mobs with more than 600 HP and cherry picking just angargeist is gonna always be bigger hits as I noted for whatever reason they take the most damage from DC i've seen in the game.

versed sail
lime swan
#

The corridor opens into a wide cavern with a sinkhole full of sluggish, frothing blood at its heart. It is fed by a steady drip of sanguine fluid from the rock ceiling, a jagged snarl of red-smeared stalactites and cragged stone.
Obvious exits: northeast, southeast, southwest, west

You wave to a blood-filled sinkhole.

civic mantle
#

also tell your friend they can get away with two DCs and a 705 on the angry bois and save some time and mana

azure mantle
cloud orchid
#

I honestly think the Sybil is just as good a gateway as the wyrm. The wyrm is freely available. The sybil requires very rare drops and a puzzle solve

azure mantle
cloud orchid
#

I can dm you. Its a puzzle

azure mantle
upbeat zephyr
#

All this talk about hitting and killing the wyrm, and I'm still trying to survive more than 15 seconds in the same room 😆

tiny aspen
# 
xxx nocks a wooden arrow tipped with a bodkin point in his sephwir long bow.
xxx fires a wooden arrow at a tattooed gigas berserker!
  AS: +611 vs DS: +248 with AvD: +27 + d100 roll: +15 = +405
   ... and hits for 119 points of damage!
   Strike to wrist severs right hand!
   The berserker's bone handaxe falls to the ground.
xxx's sephwir long bow fades some.
The arrow sticks in a tattooed gigas berserker's right hand!``` nerf wizards~ what lack of AS? @stoic venture
low heath
#

(You missed one.)

pliant hatch
#

it was me i fixprof'd again to bow wizard. deal with it

lime swan
#

what is this ebon stone archway in the Pits

exotic haven
azure mantle
lime swan
#

meanwhile, I am struggle bussing to get my AS high enough to deal with everything. but I appreciate everyone that thinks it is high 🙂

versed sail
#

nerf wizards!

rocky galleon
#

@sharp raptor wyrm.

rocky galleon
#

@sharp raptor wyrm

limber widget
#

I noticed the documentation said you to attack the organ inside the ooze if you are absorbed by one. I tried both melee and UAC and neither worked. What kind of attack does work?

#

You strike at the amorphous organ with your vultite slasher, but the spongey amorphous organ is impervious to this kind of attack!
Roundtime: 5 sec.

twilit wave
near arch
#

you need a blunt instrument

twilit wave
#

Well. Sometimes blunt. Things that are "crush sometimes" seem to work also

#

But no spears, daggers, etc

limber widget
#

Will add a blunt weapon to my harness as I have the blunt weapon skill and that is an easy fix for me. Not sure what others would do if they do not have the skill. Thanks for the information.

twilit wave
limber widget
#

Would a maul or war mattock be better?

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I will go on the test server at some point and try out both. Will let you know the result.

worthy knoll
#

no skill needed (I bash with my runestaff with no 2hw), but yeah anything that does crush don't think it matters too much

twilit wave
#

Maul works fine, so there's not a size constraint I'm aware of

pliant hatch
neon salmon
opal pine
rocky galleon
#

@sharp raptor 🐉

lime swan
#

monster flesh should give you some kind of ability to consume the ooze if it eats you

dusk skiff
#

Thinking about trying Hinterwilds for the first time ever. As a 2.5x capped solo-hunting sorcerer, what advice would you have so I don't get curb-stomped?

earnest spire
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Don't let gigas disciples do anything. Otherwise have fun

cloud orchid
#

stay down in boreal forest for now

pliant hatch
#

The “I don’t really have enough exp or gear to be here” sorcerer move seems to be carpet bombing the gigas village with open voids and run around a lot, you could try that (I don’t actually know how a 2.5x sorc will do in Hinterwilds I just find the voids everywhere funny)

dusk skiff
#

I do like to drop open voids. Always a fun and effective tactic. 🙂

marsh canyon
#

It's kind of annoying to everyone else.

dusk skiff
#

Aren't open voids player friendly now?

opal pine
#

Yes. I’m not sure why anyone would be bothered by them, it’s free crowd control

marsh canyon
#

If you're trying to collect skins and everything is all bruised up, it's annoying, because it lowers your bounty value. They don't do enough damage to control crowds. I'm not having a fit or anything, just suggesting that there might be a better way.

fair comet
#

few statistics from my 2nd solo wyrm kill: bow fire flare mech quiver briar flare spikethorn vine lynx volley all count 86 5 16 19 21 17 15 5 184 avg 79.7 8.0 25.6 26.8 83.3 9.2 5.1 9.0 53.5 total 6853 40 410 510 1750 157 77 45 9842I found spikethorn surprisingly effective, definitely worth tossing in for those 1 sec casts (from 625 proc)

#

note that the mech quiver flares every shot (~80 total due to barrage) with only 16 doing damage, so the wyrm's scale shield thingy is blocking about 80% of elemental flares

#

in retrospect, the single most important thing enabling a solo kill for me was simply having ~750 DS in offensive, which I was able to reach with the recent addition of dodge enhancives and use of an item supercharger boost

lime swan
#

high DS, high acid, cold, and crush resist will do it. and uh...some way to hurt it. adequate crowd control is also really important. taking on the wyrm is much easier in some places than others

chilly valve
#

I wonder when Wyrm 2.0 is going to get released, the one that freezes solo'rs and punks them

worthy knoll
tribal quarry
#

For all the hype, a lot of the Hinterwilds is fairly normal hunting that just happens to have much bigger numbers. Don't go into undead areas if you don't have the means to avoid sheer fear. Don't let anything cast. Ideally, don't let anything do anything, since I'm going to assume you haven't maxed Dodging, CM, and Perception all at 2.5x cap. Bring quartz orbs, bring BOOST ENHANCIVE STATS if you need, bring small statues, bring whatever it takes to get the job done.

Edit: I don't mean "fairly normal hunting" as an insult, by the way--it's actually a compliment. I don't like the more out there designs like the Confluence where you have to contend with not just environmental hazards, but also RT for moving, weapon heating and freezing, constantly shifting rooms, possibly entering on the wrong side, making yourself unhittable but not too unhittable or else you get dispelled on a missed attack, and whatever else I've forgotten. Not that the Confluence is even hard, mind you, but I just find it extremely annoying.

cyan lynx
#

I hate it when hunting areas are annoying for the sake of annoyance.

rocky galleon
#

@sharp raptor 🐉

azure mantle
#

You launch a quick bash with your pure white buckler at a silver-scaled cold wyrm!
[SMR result: 97 (Open d100: 32, Bonus: 25)]
The cold wyrm is unaffected by your futile bash!
You assault a silver-scaled cold wyrm with an unrelenting fury!
You swing a massive xazkruvrixis spikestar at a silver-scaled cold wyrm!
AS: +832 vs DS: +458 with AvD: +19 + d100 roll: +24 = +417
... and hit for 91 points of damage!
You swing a massive xazkruvrixis spikestar at a silver-scaled cold wyrm!
AS: +832 vs DS: +458 with AvD: +19 + d100 roll: +22 = +415
... and hit for 93 points of damage!
Pained spasms wrack the battered form of the great cold wyrm. The vanquished wyrm gasps futilely for breath, the gelid, caustic spittle bubbling up from her mouth shot through with silver-sheened crimson blood. With a last, terrible convulsion, the wyrm crashes to the ground and lies still.

rocky galleon
#

Well done.

cloud orchid
#

This is accurate imo and also why its a fun ground. Despite the attempts to make ‘group zones’ in GS, I still think screen scroll makes meaningful group content nearly pointless. Getting beyond one or two hunting partners makes the strategy of group play impossible imo

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Keeping it soloable, by intent or accident, is part of its appeal.

chilly valve
#

Finally a use for sign of madness.... I killed the wyrm in 36 casts in under 45 seconds..... 750 Bolt AS is a hell of a drug ⚡

lime knot
chilly valve
#

You hurl a large boulder at a silver-scaled cold wyrm!
AS: +768 vs DS: +311 with AvD: +22 + d100 roll: +16 = +495
... and hit for 236 points of damage!
(with ensorcell 😉 )

lime swan
chilly valve
#

yeah, I started the fight with 2 950s at full madness, ouch

lime swan
#

Nice! I do appreciate madness now and then

Everyone always worries about lost spirit and I just don't find it that big of a deal (in end game, with lots of crit padding) - particularly when my Wizard was a Halfling and was just perpetually encumbered

chilly valve
#

I actually messed up, I should have built up my 513 bonus then 950'd..... I will make a note for next time

lime swan
#

I have a little echo file called .wyrm with everything I do to prepare

fair comet
#

wow, that's crazy fast, you gotta race warclaidh now

civic mantle
opal pine
proven nova
#

Realistically, most sorcs can't even ward the wyrm reliably, let alone get 711 margins.

The 711 nerf was, frankly, a terrible move. It doesn't effect much but it was done years early and without a single positive attached to it.

civic mantle
#

it's "balanced" now.

worthy knoll
#

it did probably need to be capped, cap was set too low (should of been 200, but let necro lore raise it) Also we were told kinda at the time "don't worry you'll get some other neat ways for dealing with high HP things in the sorc review" which TBF were there... but of course like all development for the past two years has stalled out into oblivion So who knows when it'll come to pass again.

rocky galleon
#

@sharp raptor wyrm?

lime swan
#

wyrm down

pliant hatch
# 
Lying flat on its back, the black valravn leans to one side and dodges the attack!
  AS: +590 vs DS: +539 with AvD: +31 + d100 roll: +71 = +153
   ... and hit for 18 points of damage!
   Glancing strike to the head!

 ** Your emerald-hued katar finds its mark, slicing deep into the black valravn's right eye! **
   ... 25 points of damage!
As the radiance dims around black valravn's body, its shadow stretches long and strange as unsettling silence fills the air.  Heralded by a sound like the stirring of great wings, the noise of your surroundings crashes back down upon you, more noticeable for its brief absence.
An eyeless black valravn tumbles to the ground, landing in an awful tangle of talons and feathers.```Eyeless... except vs slashing strikes!
chilly valve
cloud orchid
#

Looks like a twc flurry swing and the first swing got evaded

pliant hatch
#

I think it hit the eye and killed it. Because it doesn’t have eyes, the messaging gets weird. Same as if you eye shot a pyrothag and some of the no messaging crit kills on mammoth arachnids and roa’ters etc.

cloud orchid
#

Some critters have things you can't aim for, but have them for open swings

timid shuttle
#

Least it wasn't a Disir

ashen tapir
#

🐲 Ojandhaart

lime swan
#

wyrm down

fair comet
#

just had a really confusing wyrm fight - from my perspective, it had just started, and I had done perhaps 500 damage or so, then the wyrm just died, wyrm had just landed when I went to find him, didn't take long to locate him, so I don't think anyone else had him nearly killed```A silver-scaled cold wyrm opens her maw while flying by, belching out a caustic mist that rains down on the ground below.
[SMR result: 107 (Open d100: 41, Penalty: 1)]
The mist settles on you, cold pinpricks quickly blossoming into scorching pain as the acid eats into your flesh!
... 1 point of damage!
Bit of acid strikes your calf leaving bright red spots.
[SMR result: 152 (Open d100: 51, Penalty: 1)]
The mist settles on the draugr and quickly begins eating into him.
... 50 points of damage!
Acid burns a hole through the left hip causing severe bleeding!
The shadow-cloaked draugr is stunned!
[SMR result: 147 (Open d100: 41, Penalty: 1)]
The mist settles on the draugr and quickly begins eating into her.
... 20 points of damage!
Acid spray dissolves flesh exposing the muscles over the ribs!
The shadow-cloaked draugr is stunned!
[SMR result: 220 (Open d100: 24, Bonus: 69)]
The mist settles on the skald and quickly begins eating into her.
A grim gigas skald is unharmed by the acid!
You impress upon a stormy grey lynx to defend you when you are attacked.

stance o
fire
Flying badly, the battered form of the great cold wyrm is wracked by a terrible convulsion. The wyrm wheels into a death spiral, wings and tail rippling limply in the air as she plummets toward the ground. The cold wyrm crashes down with a thunderous impact and does not move again.
A silver-scaled cold wyrm appears to recover some strength.```wyrm did his breath attack from the air and then just kicked the bucket

azure mantle
#

he saw me log in

timid shuttle
#

Lol.

sharp raptor
neon salmon
#

Hmm, thinking about the next series of resistances to pick up through Ascension. What are your top picks?

fair comet
#

fjallarhaart, and yep, left the normal statue after search

sharp raptor
#

Anyone know what this is...
A fiery orange ball of light explodes over the Hinterwilds. The bright light spreads over the area briefly before receeding and ultimately fading from view.

civic mantle
#

someone casting 111

azure mantle
neon salmon
# azure mantle What do you have now

Through armor, crush, slash and pierce at 20. Through ascension, 10 disruption and 10 impact. The pits are a walk in the park but gigas disciples still can one shot my bard. Had one open roll an anomaly on entering the room and splat.

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Not sure what other people’s experience is, but the disciples either die in one second or kill my bard in a second. It’s either the anomaly or mana burst that gets me

azure mantle
worthy knoll
#

I mean, open roll anomaly just kills

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I hunt disciples a lot of my sorc, and it is very rare I die, but it's always an open roll anomaly that does it if it does happen.

#

Just is one of those creatures that you are never 100% safe with

proven nova
azure mantle
#

Where can I improve?

It imparts a bonus of +50 more than usual.
It is an enhancive item:
It provides a boost of 15 to Stamina Recovery.
This enhancement may not be used by adventurers who have not trained 47 times.
It provides a boost of 12 to Blunt Weapons Bonus.
This enhancement may not be used by adventurers who have not trained 36 times.
It provides a boost of 15 to Combat Maneuvers Bonus.
This enhancement may not be used by adventurers who have not trained 47 times.
It provides a boost of 14 to Strength Base.
This enhancement may not be used by adventurers who have not trained 22 times.
It provides a boost of 15 to Logic Base.
This enhancement may not be used by adventurers who have not trained 37 times.
It provides a boost of 10 to Agility Bonus.
It seems to be out of enhancive charges.
It will persist after its last enhancive charge has been expended.
It appears to weigh about 47 pounds.
It is estimated to be worth about 481,450,000 silvers.

#

Send help

proven nova
#

I see several number that could go up. Yet...they arent

azure mantle
#

Forgive my sins, I’ll do better

worthy knoll
#

Obviously it should be 15x and have +40td on it

marsh canyon
#

For starters, it's only worth 481 million.

proven nova
cloud orchid
#

Odd numbers? What are we doing here?

azure mantle
azure mantle
stoic venture
cloud orchid
#

Lol.

  CS: +480 - TD: +282 + CvA: -21 + d100: +55 == +232
  Warding failed!
Rage, boiling and hot, bubbles up within your chest as you feel overwhelmed with sympathy for the angargeist!
>
You shift your focus to Starletdawn...
You swing an ornate ebony eahnor cresset sword at Starletdawn!
  AS: +674 vs DS: +564 with AvD: +30 + d100 roll: +19 = +159
   ... and hit for 34 points of damage!
   Slash along Starletdawn's lower back.
   She is stunned!
A dark shadowy tendril rises up from Starletdawn's skin,  writhes its way up an ornate ebony eahnor cresset sword with a glowing firewheel-shard pommel towards you and lashes out malevolently...
Starletdawn stares deep into your eyes.
  CS: +494 - TD: +332 + CvA: -21 + d100: +68 == +209
  Warding failed!
Starletdawn suddenly transforms into a horridly grotesque image, inducing utter terror in your soul!
A gut-wrenching fear twists deep into your soul.  You turn pale and then fall limp to the ground, killed by some inconceivable fear!
The rush of collective knowledge of the undead fades from your mind.
The layer of protection fades away.
You begin to feel less sympathic.
The churning spectral aura suddenly vanishes from around you.
You feel the extra courage wane.```
@glass olive  and I went after a grizzled disir....turned out she had a different bounty. 😄
worthy knoll
#

she kinda uno reversed that sympathy haha

cloud orchid
#

yeah, I was like....wth just happened. It was scroll city between her GoG, bolts and my flarestone

worthy knoll
#

I actually did not know 717 could instant kill players, only thought it did that to critters

cloud orchid
#

Behold my gloriously low TD

opal pine
#

That is beyond hilarious. Proudest Kill: Grizzled Jaysehn

pliant hatch
#

As I began reading that log, it was Starlet I expected to see taking that L

cloud orchid
#

Dude....no lie. My animal flares went off on four straight disir and one shotted each of them. Including the grizzled

glass olive
#

I am still cackling.

cloud orchid
#

That was a great moment in time

neon salmon
ashen tapir
#

I would guess that was a double cast due to sigil where the first evil eye sent you running until you get to the landing and the followup cast being the instakill

nimble canyon
#

If that's so... do not "fix" that. That is hilarious and a feature.

neon salmon
civic mantle
#

I always come in from the icemule side, for what thats worth

azure mantle
cyan lynx
#

Weird.

#

I'll have to see if Evil Eye locations are just not set.

raven horizon
#

Left a tent in village center, not on recover so hoping someone picked it up. Let me know if you found it. Thanks.

opal pine
#

It’d be in LOST, ask an advguild master about lost

cloud orchid
#

It also takes about an hour

raven horizon
#

Got it back. Thanks.

cyan lynx
#

It looks like fear is supposed to drop you off at the runestone if you're in the Hinterwilds.

#

Where were you feared?

neon salmon
#

Not sure if this is relevant, but I recall the sorcerer who cast evil eye being stunned when I was zipping from room to room and there was a golem in there with him.

tribal quarry
#

Having trouble finding this information, but what exactly were the rules on setting bounties to higher levels in the Hinterwilds? Every 1 level above 5 actually equals 2 over 5 here?

proven nova
#

I think when it gets to HW the actual answer "There's a difference?"

tribal quarry
#

Well, the reason I ask is I've noticed I haven't been getting disir, valravn, angargeist, disciple, or undandsormr bounties. It makes me think that I must have known how it worked before and set in a range that would avoid the latter three, but now that premium accounts can pull new bounties every 10 minutes, I'm okay with taking the risk of getting the last three since I want the first two.

worthy knoll
#

You need it maxed to get those I think

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I believe it works normally but there's no limit if it's maxed so if theoretically there was a lvl 200 critter you could get that

#

For ascension bounties, but maybe there is/was a formula for it? I swear I didn't ever get a desire bounty too I raised mine all the way it would go

cloud orchid
#

I maxed my bounties for months. I still get boreal stuff just as much as anything else

worthy knoll
#

it doesn't raise the minimum, only the maximum (that's always how bounty system worked AFIAK

azure mantle
#

wyrm
he dead
You swing a massive xazkruvrixis spikestar at a silver-scaled cold wyrm!
AS: +845 vs DS: +358 with AvD: +19 + d100 roll: +87 = +593
... and hit for 152 points of damage!
You feel the unnatural surge of necrotic power wane away.
You swing a massive xazkruvrixis spikestar at a silver-scaled cold wyrm!
AS: +820 vs DS: +358 with AvD: +19 + d100 roll: +49 = +530
... and hit for 131 points of damage!
You swing a massive xazkruvrixis spikestar at a silver-scaled cold wyrm!
AS: +820 vs DS: +358 with AvD: +19 + d100 roll: +73 = +554
... and hit for 132 points of damage!
Pained spasms wrack the battered form of the great cold wyrm. The vanquished wyrm gasps futilely for breath, the gelid, caustic spittle bubbling up from her mouth shot through with silver-sheened crimson blood. With a last, terrible convulsion, the wyrm crashes to the ground and lies still.

tribal quarry
# 
>
You ask the gemcutter if he would like to buy a fossilized undandsormr egg.
The gemcutter takes the undandsormr egg, gives it a careful examination and and says, "I don't have that much spare silver, so I will have to give you a bank note for it."  He then hands you an Icemule promissory note for 21,888 silvers.

[You need to sell 3 more to complete your task.]```
Oh, do I love the Hinterwilds. Never seen a gem need a promissory note. 🤣
marsh canyon
#

There's a rift gem that, if sung to and chiseled, has reached a price where the gemshop has refused to buy it.

nimble canyon
#

hw gems can get there too with a chisel

civic mantle
dusk skiff
#

MAL is capped at Level+20, so it doesn't matter unless you're animating something level 66.

civic mantle
#

Unless you have a wand then its +25 of level, but yea thats the entier point is to take a good low level mob up.

stuck blade
#

Suggestion, flaming aura 1706 should block or reduce hypthermia in Hinterwilds. =p

cyan lynx
#

😛

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Maybe it should give a random flare chance to remove one stack of hypothermia.

stuck blade
#

Anything is better than nothing 🙂

proven nova
chilly valve
#

Auchland, is adding "Question --> Ask tavernkeeper about bounty" something that can be added to the Wrayth menu of tavernkeeper NPC? I got super Wrayth muscle memory and that always messes me up

stuck blade
#

Anyone know where to find some cactacae spine in HW?

stuck blade
#

Is there a max stacks for hypothermia? I've gotten up to the 60s

neon salmon
tribal quarry
#

🎉

neon salmon
#

hmm. any chance we can up the max sales price? Was tasked a gem bounty and several of them could not be sold.

frosty junco
#

Doesn’t the gem shop buy stuff up to 50k?

neon salmon
#

I appraised the gem and it wasn’t crazy ~ 18K. elf with 35 Inf bonus, 201 trading ranks. No enhancives or ascension ranks in either INF or trading

tribal quarry
#

Did you mark the gem somehow?

neon salmon
#

I don’t believe so as they could still be sold at the pawnshop. I had three gems that were unsellable at the gem shop and were appraised by my bard to be in the 18k range. The other time I remember this happening was the occasional confluence core that needed to be pawned as well

nimble canyon
#

confluence cores can be expensive enough you won't be able to sell them (to gem). i get it maybe 1 in 250 or so

stuck blade
#

HYPOTHERMIA (108) 26 MINS - 0:00:13
=p

stuck blade
# 
A niveous giant warg lunges at you, maw slathering as it tries to take a ferocious bite!
A suit of stygian rusalkoren platemail suffused with erratic caligninous whorls of azure partially deflects the onslaught of the puncture attack.
  AS: +553 vs DS: +264 with AvD: +7 + d100 roll: +88 = +384
   ... and hits for 77 points of damage!
   Strike pierces calf!```
Lol, this thing just ate through my platemail.
cloud orchid
#

I think they get like a big time DF buff or something when that happens. wargs are actually one of the more deadly things in HW

proven nova
#

In a pack they are absolute murderbeasts. You can't let them stack up and make them the priority.

cyan lynx
stuck blade
#

I really like how if you keep your bounty difficulty at 5up/5down you only get bounties for these 2 areas. HW is such a well designed area.

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cloud orchid
#

Id like an option to only get bounties for the pit/fjal and berserkers end

marsh canyon
#

10 up only would be a nice option.

sharp raptor
# proven nova In a pack they are absolute murderbeasts. You can't let them stack up and make ...

Aside from wyrms or mitigating an out of control grizzled ooze swarm, a spectral warg packmother is the only critter that Myharl has put out a call to fellow hunters about. It ended up immune to all his damage types and unreasonably buffed. They are absolutely deadly in any iteration, but especially once they get buffed/packed up. That encounter is literally the reason Myharl turns off the Lich's Curse on his necrotic ring now when he's hunting in the Hinterwilds.

cyan lynx
proven nova
#

They are a great example of something deadly but not obnoxious. Well, they can be, if you screw up and they kill you lol

cloud orchid
#

The RT howl stack can be obnoxious, but thats just RT being RT

ivory crescent
#

"A heavily armored battle mastodon rides a heavily armored battle mastodon in, the mastodon limping with every great step." No wonder it was limping.

chilly valve
#

The gigas circus is in town....

cyan lynx
opal pine
#

I’m not sure I agree that it’s an issue that needs fixing 😁

lime knot
#

If you fixed it then for the mastodons it would be impossible to procreate.

chilly valve
#

I don't think we should start worrying until we see a grizzled ooze riding another grizzled ooze

cloud orchid
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I say leave it. Its goofy GS hysterics

proven nova
#

At this point it's not a bug, it's a feature

marsh canyon
#

And this is how we get more mastodons.

proven nova
cyan lynx
#

It just bothers me that it keeps happening with no reason!

opal pine
#

Wow, now baby mastodons are "no reason"

near arch
#

I mean presumably it's not for no reason, it's because the one mastodon is badly hurt!

#

just make it impossible to hurt the mastodons and the problem will go away

cyan lynx
#

You may have solved it.

#

It's only when they're injured.

near arch
#

envoy'd

cyan lynx
#

Maybe the saddest note I've ever had to type.

#
  • Mastodons will no longer ride one another in the Hinterwilds.
proven nova
nimble canyon
#

The most important lesson from this is that's how like 30% of bugs in all software get fixed

low heath
# 
1) That can't happen.
2) How did that happen?
3) There's no way that can happen.
4) Oh. That's why.
5) How did that even work in the first place? <— Auchand is now here.
rocky galleon
#

Any possiblility that we could get a super low chance to skin the wyrm with 3x survival, 2x first aid?

proven nova
#

Or a slightly higher chance with 3x dodge and 3x PF but only 2x survival

rocky galleon
#

7 minute abs just doesn't make sense. No one wants 7 minute abs.

cloud orchid
#

I'd honestly rather see the thing just drop some rare mats or something. Wyrm claw. Wyrm scales. Wyrm fang. Wyrm heart. At different levels of rarity. Like have it always drop a few Wyrm scales. Then the others are rarer drops

proven nova
#

That would be pretty cool, then you could do something with the alter fodder

cloud orchid
#

ive got a whole schme in my head for this. Game wide

rocky galleon
#

Someone get this man a blue name!

proven nova
#

You saw the bighead AI drawing, let's not make it a reality

cloud orchid
#

I work for GALD

earnest pagoda
#

Im a 97 Wizard, Thinking of moving from Nelemar to try HW. Any advice there?

twilit wave
earnest pagoda
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not doing bounties at 1st

neon salmon
chilly valve
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The crazy thing about HW is you would think that staying in the low area is the safest but with ambush defense-pushdown, sometimes the halflings can get you just at the right time and crit big or give you nasty poison at 50 health per round.

civic mantle
#

wild to jump into the deep end of stuff at 97.

cloud orchid
#

There is a lot of smr stuff that will schlack a 97 wiz. Just understand that going in. Hinterboar charges. Warg howls. Etc

#

Take advantage of wildfire oil upgrades at Sparkfinger’s. As well as frostbite protection options

frosty junco
junior linden
#

Just started poking around Hinterwilds after hunting in Moonsedge a bit too much- gotta say it's lots of fun!

frosty junco
#

Anyone else notice monsterbold messaging about alerting the gigas to your presence?

cloud orchid
#

No? Paste an example?

frosty junco
#

Don’t keep logs unfortunately. Ummmm, I attacked a giga in the eastern village and immediately below the combat line there was a yellow monsterbold message saying something to the effect of:

Your actions have disturbed the peace of the village and the gigas have been alerted to your presence!

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I hunt there all of the time and this was definitely something new. Could be that a GM was testing something…?

neon salmon
#

Got the same message in Eldurhaart. Didn’t notice anything else that was out of the ordinary in terms of spawn rate, etc.

cloud orchid
#

huh. never seen that ever and I hunt Fjall all the time

lime swan
#

maybe it's a mini boss gen

frosty junco
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Haven’t seen it since the one time this afternoon. I suspect very highly that they were testing something. Glad I wasn’t the only one who noticed it

pliant hatch
#

That's gotta be new. Been hunting HW since it opened, never seen that. Kind of makes me think of the Warcamp mechanic where the scout notifies the camp when you pull up

cloud orchid
#

Warcamps were exactly what it reminded me off too

#

Lots of new faces in HW lately. Gonna get swaaaarmy 😄

pliant hatch
#

Anyone who rests in the Pipe Den and doesn't want to be spammed to death 24/7 by gem singing, I got you covered on your ignore strings. I finally did this today and oh my god it's so much better:Songz sings a melody, directing the sound of his voice at When the song ends, you notice A swirling cloud of shadow forms around Songz's right hand as he prepares a spell Songz peers intently at Songz put Songz removes

frosty junco
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Would be nice if people just didn’t purify gems in a crowded node. Bit of a common courtesy, ya know?

pliant hatch
#

That would definitely be nice!

cloud orchid
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This is why I don't rest in there. Cemetary ftw. not a node, but I don't care 😄

pliant hatch
#

Honestly I think a few tables would be great. You can't force socialization or change the fact that people generally hunt then alt-tab or go AFK for a while. Lack of tables means Pipe Den is full of characters but typically completely silent aside from scroll gem-singing. Teras eventually got tables after decades of holding out, I hope Cold River gets them sooner than that.

fleet cove
#

some people are awful and inconsiderate! 🤷‍♂️

cloud orchid
pliant hatch
cloud orchid
#

Its not 1998 anymore. Like you correctly said, people who want to socialize will. And lots of people now are multitaskers, not players. I can be playing, and resting is when I answer a work email or something.

lime swan
#

Some people complain that tables also removed an important element of the social critical mass from the game. They have to find a balance between ways to avoid mass crowds, but ways to maintain some crowd

cloud orchid
#

I don't honestly think a crowd where I assume most everyone is AFK is a crowd at all. It discourages interaction, not encourages. I am far less inclined to RP if I think I'm dragging people away from other AFK-driven tasks.

lime swan
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Right, I am sure that has been an element of the equation since the beginning

near arch
#

I don’t think people were afk as much in the days where you paid $1.99 an hour haha

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In the nicest possible way I don’t think you can bug afk people because they are afk

lime swan
near arch
#

My preferred solution is still to have a node where you get a mana discount for buffing yourself and apparently for purifying gems, away from the main node. But this is off the HW topic

stoic venture
#

I almost bought a tent just so I could have some space to myself away from all the noise. Maybe that's the secret, they want that tent $$$$

proven nova
#

I have considered parking my cleric in the tent to sanct it to make it a node

tribal quarry
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I'm on team "throw tables into the Pipe Den and call it a day."

That said, yeah, I only entered that Trove tent raffle because I saw Maodan using his in Cold River. Would have no use for it otherwise. 🤣

proven nova
#

they are useful in something like the scatter too, anywhere you can't really move in and out easily

cloud orchid
#

My spacious pewter tent in the graveyard. I even have the spot saved in go2 as hwcamp

proven nova
#

I'd rather squelch the planet than sit in a non-node tho...

pliant hatch
#

That but non-supernode

cloud orchid
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Heh. Well, ill go back to ‘everywhere in town should be a supernode’

neon salmon
#

i think we just need to accept reality and make a flag that denotes whether you're an engaged, active, and want to play old-school GS where you interact w/ people and then one that turns your name into your race/class "a human warrior", and all the AFK people can be squelched and essentially be the NPC's they are and the RP'ers will know any name they see is a real person. This benefits the people who want to reallyy play because they wont waste their time interacting with AFK people or saving AFK people, etc.

earnest spire
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If only there were separate servers.

proven nova
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If you are dead and AFK more than once, you just go on the blacklist

cloud orchid
#

Not ‘human warrior’. But just something like premium daydream for all

civic mantle
stoic venture
#

I like the suggestion, but I'd want to be able to toggle specific people as the background NPCs.

flag annoyingplayer NPC
The person who thinks they are the Main Character is now correctly assigned as a background NPC and will show up as a <race> <profession>.

earnest spire
#

A "bot" flag would be chefkiss

chilly valve
#

I wonder if QC would accept the prename "Known botter" if someone asked for it....

keen fog
#

No.

stoic venture
#

😂

chilly valve
#

"Do Not Disturb Zhagen just limped in"

keen fog
#

Zhagen the Oblivious just entered the room.

stoic venture
chilly valve
sharp raptor
#

Slaying two wyrms in one hunt. That's exhilarating. Love that the necrotic rings spawns an undead one occasionally.

earnest spire
#

I've yet to spawn a "boss" version, but my ring is sad and only has a 3% chance

stuck blade
#

Fun times =p

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junior linden
pliant hatch
#

Yeah I didn’t want to squelch Nothing happens because it would come up in other contexts. I noticed that still appears too, once the gem is fully purified I guess. Not much to be done for it

junior linden
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haha ya it was more the comedic timing of sitting down and seeing it pop up 😄

neon salmon
sharp raptor
# neon salmon Saw two wyrm statues in Eldurhaart in the same room last night. Nice

Was only like the third or fourth time I've seen it happen, but was a ton of fun. Got pretty dicey for a minute when I got stuck in one of those seemingly unending sympathy gazes—at one point was even down to 8 health (Plate Armor Proficiency feat to the rescue). Luckily, Earthdriver and I had converged on the wyrm from different spots in the Angargreft, and together we were able to fell both of them.

#

I keep getting the weird "Your songs fail to renew." messages whenever I come in from a hunt in the Hinterwilds. Have confirmed it's 100% something that happens when I come back in from hunting there, still haven't figured out what it's referencing or what's causing it (so haven't been able to bug it). I don't sing, I smash. 😆 Ironically, and amusingly, years ago I used to joke about Myharl always singing kindred battlehymns when berserking.
It's not really a problem; just some wayward messaging, but the "nothing happens" squelch conversation above reminded me to post something about it.

cyan lynx
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Huh.

ivory crescent
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What does this mean? It was in monster bold. "You have broken the tenuous peace and marked yourself as a target for the gigas of Eldurhaart!"

cloud orchid
#

its something new. Auchand is playing tricks

sharp raptor
cloud orchid
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I want to break some damn peace

cyan lynx
#

It could mean anything.

proven nova
cloud orchid
#

It could even mean nothing!

cyan lynx
#

It could even be a boat.

twilit wave
proven nova
junior linden
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Is there a way to check to see if you've broken the peace? Aaaannnd any ideas floating around as to how to re-establish it?

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I imagine a good check would be to see if you walk into a place where there are Gigas and if they start wailing on you then ... there's your answer.

cloud orchid
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Im guessing we are looking at a potential faction system rep thing

azure mantle
#

the wyrm crashes to the ground and lies still.

As it should be

sharp raptor
#

Weird one... was in the Hinterwilds hunting, but didn't see the messaging for the wyrm. Was on the back end of a hunt and pretty tore up when one wandered into the room in Fjallarhaart and attacked me. Dashed back to Cold River to get some healing and went back, but never saw the wyrm again. Had been resting in Rawknuckles for a long while before that hunt as well and never sensed the wyrm flying about. Just thought I'd note the weirdness since we've noticed some other recent changes.

cloud orchid
#

I think maybe Myharl is so wyrmed up, he is hallucinating 😉

junior linden
#

I saw the messaging for it earlier. I was in some cave in Hoarbriar.

lime swan
#

I definitely don't let them out of sight. they move so fast that they tend to just ninja vanish

sharp raptor
#

It's completely possible I missed seeing it. The scroll in Rawknuckle's is pretty constant and unending. However, I also have an audio alert set, so whenever it pops up on screen, I hear a loud wyrm roar. 😄 Back when I was first pushing to get to 100 wyrms slain, I monitored for them pretty regularly and went after them all—the audio let me make sure I didn't miss one when I was working in another window or focused on another monitor. No roar = no message (or message changed enough not to trigger highlight). I just never turned the highlight off because if I'm not busy, I'll still chase after them.

sharp raptor
# lime swan I definitely don't let them out of sight. they move so fast that they tend to j...

Yeah, they move incredibly fast, and while some stay in a general area, others seem to roam from one area to the other pretty quickly. If it hadn't been on the end of a hunt where I had laden myself with 150 lbs. of boxes and was already bleeding out 30 or so per, I would have stuck around for a bit. I'm pretty good at tracking them, though. Were a lot of times when I was soloing them that I'd have to recoup and run back out.

sharp raptor
lime swan
#

Just as a silver-scaled cold wyrm attacks, your arm suddenly swings out and intercepts it!

A silver-scaled cold wyrm lashes out with a scythe-like talon at you!
fire AS: +656 vs DS: +737 with AvD: +37 + d100 roll: +71 = +27
A clean miss.

** Black light radiates from your black leathers and you feel 1 mana surge into you! **

A silver-scaled cold wyrm lashes out with a scythe-like talon at you!
AS: +656 vs DS: +737 with AvD: +37 + d100 roll: +19 = -25
A clean miss.

R>...wait 1 seconds.
R>fire...wait 1 seconds.
R>[SMR result: 109 (Open d100: 74, Bonus: 20)]
A quivering sanguine ooze whips a thick pseudopod at you! The appendage wraps around your waist and drags you inexorably back toward the central mass of the ooze. Gelatinous goop closes over you as you are sucked into the ooze's depths!
[Ooze, Innards]
Squishy ooze presses in on you from all sides. The fetid mass is semitranslucent but allows in neither air nor details of the outside world. Remains of rusting weapons and rotting flesh dot the goop, reminiscent of the filling of some grotesque pastry. You also see a pulsing amorphous organ.
Obvious exits: none

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PR>inc 518 open earthYou can't do that with all the ooze pressing in around you!
PR>get runesYou remove a steel-capped orase runestaff from in your black satchel.
P>at orgWith what little momentum you can muster, you bash the amorphous organ with your orase runestaff, causing the ooze around you to convulse violently!
Roundtime: 6 sec.
Roundtime changed to 1 second.
PR>at orgPR>With what little momentum you can muster, you bash the amorphous organ with your orase runestaff, causing the ooze around you to convulse violently!
Roundtime: 5 sec.
Roundtime changed to 1 second.
PR>at orgWith what little momentum you can muster, you bash the amorphous organ with your orase runestaff, causing the ooze around you to convulse violently!
Roundtime: 6 sec.
Roundtime changed to 1 second.
PR>at org...wait 1 seconds.
PR>at orgWith what little momentum you can muster, you bash the amorphous organ with your orase runestaff, causing the ooze around you to convulse violently!
Roundtime: 6 sec.
Roundtime changed to 1 second.
PR>at orgWith what little momentum you can muster, you bash the amorphous organ with your orase runestaff, causing the ooze around you to convulse violently!
Roundtime: 5 sec.
Roundtime changed to 1 second.
The gelatinous innards around you tighten painfully around you before expelling you!
[Angargreft, Hanging Gardens]
Compromised by corrosion and great age, the easternmost verge of the tomb's terrace has given way. The resulting pile of rubble is a treacherous mess of ruddy stone and snowfall, a terrifying jangle of sharp edges and false handholds that has spilled across the niveous grove below. You also see a quivering sanguine ooze, a squamous reptilian mutant (dead), a fluffy white cat and an iced almond muffin.
Obvious paths: west
PR>staYou stand back up.

And just like that, the wyrm has vanished...

azure mantle
#

yeah that ooze got me too

proven nova
#

It was just trying to help

lime swan
#

to be fair, the ooze has saved me a few times

the ooze giveth, and the ooze taketh away

cloud orchid
#

Just crost posting here for potential interest. My AI creation of the Hanging Gardens

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timid shuttle
#

Am not seeing it in my mind's eye on that one. That looks kind of like the frozen prison in D&D Honor among thieves. Good AI generation though.

tribal quarry
#

Found a couple months ago:

    It provides a boost of 14 to Picking Locks Bonus.```
Found today:
```The greathelm resonates with your voice, indicating that it enhances its owner in the following ways:
    It provides a boost of 17 to Picking Locks Bonus.```
I love the Hinterwilds. 🎉  At this point I only need it to happen one more time to have a near max Picking Locks set in three items.
opal pine
#

Dang, they must really be pushing to make locksmiths. I found this one the other day:

    It provides a boost of 11 to Pickpocketing Bonus.
    This enhancement may not be used by adventurers who have not trained 27 times.
    It provides a boost of 14 to Swimming Bonus.
    This enhancement may not be used by adventurers who have not trained 21 times.
    It provides a boost of 10 to Disarming Traps Bonus.
    This enhancement may not be used by adventurers who have not trained 22 times.
    It provides a boost of 8 to Stamina Recovery.
    This enhancement may not be used by adventurers who have not trained 22 times.
    It seems to have a lot of enhancive charges remaining.```
tribal quarry
#

Gotta have the enhancives to pick the Hinterwilds boxes in the first place, you see!

(Not a joke, by the way! The boxes can get up to the point that a top notch, undamaged vaalin lockpick with +60 Picking Locks and +30 Dexterity (+15 bonus) still needs a high roll, so I'm very grateful for another +17 of buffer. 😄 Highest I've seen so far is -1590, but I'm sure it gets tougher--especially if people are out there using necro rings.)

cloud orchid
# timid shuttle Am not seeing it in my mind's eye on that one. That looks kind of like the froze...

I grabbed one of the room descriptions from just before the Spirit Walk. This is what the image is based on.

Rising out of the cold earth, a sky-scraping pyramid of red stone overshadows the area, its cavernous entrance marked by a pair of colossal red stone pillars. Traceries of rime glisten from its cyclopean walls, reflecting the dancing aurora in shimmering blues and wild greens, but it is a grim and beautiless place, a ruined echo of a monument built to evoke fear rather than wonder. As if cowed by the display, the trees give the edifice a wide berth, leaving it in solitude amidst a grove cratered with steaming pools.

cyan lynx
#

I definitely see Angargreft as a little more squat than that, and the stone crumbling and with an uglier shade of red-orange, but everything else is pretty on-key.

#

The top also has a smallish plaza for Zerroth's bier.

cloud orchid
#

You dont want to see what it gave me for Zerroth’s bier

cyan lynx
#

Hold my bier.

ivory crescent
#

FYI, four NPCs who accept reports of completion of heirloom, culling and boss advg tasks in Cold River: alchemist, fisherman, lookout, tavernkeeper. I think that's more than most big towns.

sharp raptor
# ivory crescent FYI, four NPCs who accept reports of completion of heirloom, culling and boss ad...

I kind of wish Cold River would become an "official" town. We're only shy a few features like a pawnshop. And tables... tables would be really nice just because having a post-cap only hunting ground, it's inevitable that the super node is going to be inundated with scripters. I think the Pipe Den ended up being counter to the intention. It's basically impossible to do any sort of RP in there due to the scroll.

cloud orchid
#

The real RP is in the Tent City Graveyard

sharp raptor
#

Myharl's spot for wyrm-watch tends to be sitting under the ancient pine. I did notice the growing tent city, though. 😄

tribal quarry
#

Come to think of it, I've never actually checked if the alchemist buys reagents. But if not, that would be another missing things.

cloud orchid
#

I was Cemetery tent hobo first. Everyone else is just gentrifying

stoic venture
#

I wouldn't classify it as an "official" town. But I would like to see a pawnshop (Because you shouldn't have to be Premium to avoid that annoyance), and tables (Because forced consolidation isn't a good thing IMO.)

cyan lynx
#

It's a community.

#

Classing it as a town would probably result in less focus since it'd need a guru.

tribal quarry
#

I was about to say let's upgrade it to Pinefar status, but then I checked and Pinefar doesn't have a pawnshop or alchemist either. It does at least have tables, though!

nimble canyon
#

I'm for the tables and ability to pawn, even without full town status

cloud orchid
#

Make the frostling the pawn. Lol

sharp raptor
# cloud orchid Make the frostling the pawn. Lol

That actually makes perfect sense, though. Bittergale is already a junk collector, and the random pile of mismatched clothes they wear resembles the ensemble worn by the clerk in the back room of Kilron's in the Landing. 😆

cloud orchid
#

Yup. That was kinda my thinking

#

Hot take. Make the frostling the pawn, but instead of silver, you get to spend gigas shards to pull from some rando treasure pile. Fill it with a few hundred things from old pull piles of the past. Include some neat/cool/nice things. Unique reward for hunting HW

#

But you gotta pawn him stuff to earn ‘the right’ to do a pull. Reduce silver outflow and those who want can get a chance at more interesting rewards

#

Make every pull cost 20 shards. That way you have to be hunting, and you cant be departing

sharp raptor
# cloud orchid Hot take. Make the frostling the pawn, but instead of silver, you get to spend g...

Ooh! Pawnshop conversation aside, I like that idea of Bittergale being utilized as an alternate way to trade/spend gigas shards. Something like: you could "deposit" gigas shards you collect with the frostling, and when you have enough banked up there you could "spend" them to pull a random piece from their pile of junk treasure. Could even be priced for common, uncommon, and rare. Old "pull pile" prizes repainted to be Hinterwilds themed would be perfect.

Sort of makes me think of some of the fun hidden gems the really old neighborhoods have. Like there's one on the southwest side of Icemule that has a carnival game you can win randomly generated toys from.

stoic venture
#

If you take it from asking for a pawnshop to add entire new system with randomness, you've just created way more work.

K.I.S.S.

stuck blade
#

Banking gigas fragments give me an idea of banking them to be able to get unique buffs to help with Wyrm. Like 500 fragments to ignore sympathy as an example.

neon salmon
#

That’s an interesting idea- perhaps involving gigas shards in the charm system to obtain new Hinterswild specific buffs.

cloud orchid
sharp raptor
stoic venture
#

Okay, but we should walk before we try to run.

proven nova
#

If the HW was a toddler, it would already be walking. I believe.

chilly valve
#

We should take bets on when the first billion silver HW McMansion is going to be dropped

cloud orchid
#

My tent may qualify, it cost more than a MCP

chilly valve
#

It would hilarious if there was a section of housing called Billionaire's row

stuck blade
# 
[SMR result: 148 (Open d100: 9, Bonus: 78)]
   ... 60 points of damage!
   Flame engulfs back: a tattooed gigas berserker flambe!
A tattooed gigas berserker's fists tense with impotent rage as he surrenders to death.```
1706 does some good work every now and then.
tough swan
#

I was curious.. The hidden path from the Arboreal forest that cuts north towards a hidden trail that then heads west to Fjallahart.. They don't seem to be hidden anymore? and if they're not hidden from plain view, is there a reason we still have to search for them?

cyan lynx
cyan lynx
cyan lynx
cloud orchid
#

Also…just letting sparkfinger have a trade in for 20 shards that give you a random ‘pull pile’ level reward would work for my idea also

#

And we need that creepy librarian from Castlevania SOTN in moonsedge for similar purposes. 😄

timid shuttle
#

Long as he says keke/hehe Thank You.

stoic venture
cloud orchid
#

I read it as the current entire loot system is a boring snoozefest devoid of even a shred of interesting

proven nova
#

This tbh

nimble canyon
#

first encounter with wyrm, it's pretty much just RT locking the entire room over and over

cloud orchid
#

Is it bugged out? Usually an 800AS mstrike isn't far behind

opal pine
nimble canyon
#

yeah. Eventually after about 5 minutes, the cold started killing people. Yes

#

Just literally any group of more than 5 is utterly unable to do anything until they die?

cloud orchid
#

Its meant to prevent trivial kills via overwhelming odds

opal pine
#

Yeah, I've gotta boot one of my squad any time I want to make an attempt. Before I learned that, it was basically spamming SYM RETURN on everyone until someone passed an RT check (usually wizard because of 535). He doesn't typically attack when he's in the full CC mode that I've seen, it's just the RT stacking over and over

nimble canyon
#

yeah, it's also going to result in some fun times if anybody is passing by and gets caught in that. It should really punt people to other rooms occasionally or something. I'm fine with them not wanting overwhleming numbers but it's literally inescapable

pliant hatch
#

The wyrm is not in a great place in general. As far as I know it still has "kick rocks bud" TD

cloud orchid
#

my suggestion was once you hit the threshold, the wyrm stomps the ground, everyone falls into a cave below ground and you have closed arena battle with the wyrm

nimble canyon
#

Also, an excuse to just throw up 10 thaumaturge tomes and send the whole herd at him, as it locked down all the enemies too

#

ah well, at least now I know

cloud orchid
#

Treat the wyrm as a world boss you aren't supposed to win against. You'l have less frustration that way. There is no reward for killing it at the moment anyway, not even treasure.

opal pine
# 
Proudest victory: a silver-scaled cold wyrm (level 120)```
😆
cloud orchid
#

I keep the sybil as my proudest. Since i solo'd that dirty girl

proven nova
#

(I dont know how to set my kills so whatever mine says was just put there)

opal pine
#

I still need to give Sybil an attempt. I joined a group early on and didn't get much out of the attempt because there was so much going on. Which says a lot because I'm used to a lot going on lol.

nimble canyon
#

The wyrm never moves once it lands, right?

opal pine
#

It can. I've found that 615 in particular makes it go haywire and start running around

nimble canyon
#

joy

#

well, at least adding a peer before movement to avoid it should help with the worst, if it moves onto me... guess I will just grump about it

neon salmon
#

The wyrm roams around and can enter some of the other structures you cannot peer into like the henge, heart tree, longhouse, etc. surprise surprise when you miss the monsterbold while afk resting !

opal pine
#

Your sentient potato boasts, "My dad slayed a silver-scaled cold wyrm once!
d'aww ❤️

sharp raptor
nimble canyon
#

yeah, I'm cool with the idea of it, it should just do it in a way that's a little less.. sheesh. who has the convoke staff? i need it for... reasons

proven nova
#

Imagine an enraged wyrm upon login lol

sharp raptor
# nimble canyon The wyrm never moves once it lands, right?

They absolutely move around. Sometimes all abroad the Hinterwilds. I've chased them from one gigas village to the other, from the Boreal forest all the way up to Beserker's End, and sometimes they'll wander down into the Pits. Also there are triggers that will put it into a frenzy where it darts around really quickly. Example: casting swarm.

azure mantle
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  1. Find wyrm
  2. berserk
  3. No Profit*

Fixed

civic mantle
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lawl 3

azure mantle
civic mantle
proven nova
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But you said you didnt even have the MnE and MnS books all the way up yet

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So are you even trying?

civic mantle
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not even a little

cloud orchid
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Hey tent gang. Careful. Tents are borked again. Logged out of mine in HW, ended up in RR

stuck blade
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Feature

timid shuttle
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Benefit = So you can instant travel. Randomly.

cyan lynx
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There was a lot of good feedback from the wyrm testing, but I've also been stuck in other projects.

sharp raptor
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I learned from wyrm testing that the best post-cap "invasion" would be Wyrmageddon. I don't know how many were released at once there at the end, I know it must have at least been a dozen. 😄

proven nova
cloud orchid
lime swan
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I just maxed out my enhancive agility and was eager to try it out...and this happens as soon as I walk in. 10% vacuum resist

[SMR result: 101 (Open d100: 62)]
An eyeless black valravn vaporizes into a swirl of cold, black mist that streaks toward you in a blur of shadowy, intangible feathers! The vaporous cloud penetrates your magical defenses and washes over you in a chaotic onslaught!
Your body resists the decompressing damage and lessens the severity of the attack!
... 19 points of damage!
Decompression causes skull to crack, blood comes from ears and nose in a spurt!
You are stunned for 10 rounds!
A crackling black latticework springs up from the surface of your black leathers and shields you from some of the damage!
The energy surrounding you condenses into hard stone, softening the blow!
... 1 point of damage!
Chunks of flesh vaporized on left leg!
A crackling black latticework springs up from the surface of your black leathers and shields you from some of the damage!
The energy surrounding you condenses into hard stone, softening the blow!
Your body resists the disruptive damage and lessens the severity of the attack!
... 7 points of damage!
Major bones in your left arm crack loudly!
An eyeless black valravn dwindles back into its avian form.

chilly valve
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"whatever doesn't kill ya....."

lime swan
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...makes me heal down for about a minute

stuck blade
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Does 412 work on the Wyrm?

lime swan
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Yes

opal pine
# 
(entire squad passing the roll)
[SMR result: 107 (Open d100: 37, Bonus: 2)]
A bloody halfling  cannibal is driven from hiding by the assault!  The disruptive power of the skald's song peals over a bloody halfling cannibal, sending her sprawling!
   ... 15 points of damage!
   Upward thrust lifts the halfling cannibal several inches off the ground.
   The halfling cannibal is stunned!
   ... 10 points of damage!
   Side strike shoves the halfling cannibal several feet sideways.
   ... 20 points of damage!
   Arm jerked painfully upward.
[SMR result: 159 (Open d100: 84)]
The disruptive power of the skald's song peals over a stunted halfling bloodspeaker, sending her sprawling!
   ... 25 points of damage!
   Back strike.  The halfling bloodspeaker writhes in pain.
   The halfling bloodspeaker is stunned!
   ... 20 points of damage!
   Arm jerked painfully upward.
   ... 30 points of damage!
   Leg jerked violently.  The halfling bloodspeaker is stunned.
   ... 25 points of damage!
   Neck shot. The halfling bloodspeaker is knocked onto her back.
   ... 20 points of damage!
   Arm jerked painfully upward.
   ... 30 points of damage!
   Strike to arm spins the halfling bloodspeaker like a top.  The halfling bloodspeaker is stunned.
   ... 20 points of damage!
   Vertigo!  The halfling bloodspeaker clutches her stomach.
[SMR result: 124 (Open d100: 55)]
The disruptive power of the skald's song peals over a behemothic gorefrost golem, sending it sprawling!
   ... 10 points of damage!
   ... 1 point of damage!
   The gorefrost golem's arm twists oddly but snaps right back.
   ... 20 points of damage!
   Footing lost!  The gorefrost golem wrenches back trying to stay upright.
   ... 2 points of damage!
   The gorefrost golem's right leg jerks momentarily but snaps right back.```
Skald friend doing the work for me
cloud orchid
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nice

earnest spire
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Am I having horrible RNG or does it seem like over 50% of assigned bounties in HW are for the alchemist? I'm burning through expedited task vouchers like they're nothin'.

azure mantle
sharp raptor
earnest spire
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I forget those are a thing. I should see if I can dig some up.

sharp raptor
cloud orchid
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The Sybil

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frosty junco
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Neat. Hadn’t really bothered trying to summon one yet, but this makes me itchy for a battle

frosty junco
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I’ve been hunting more in area between the pits and the northern forest. Man, that’s gotta be the toughest hunting spot in the entire game. High spawn rate with both pits creatures and all the northern woods stuff. It’s a hoot

marsh canyon
frosty junco
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It can get pretty wild there when you enter the center room and there’s like 6 critters - 2 disirs, a disciple, an undansormr, a mutant and a draugr 😱

I’m usually pretty quick at determining what to disable first and prioritize to kill. But it can get super tricky there!

chilly valve
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press F1 (wizard free reset room Tap)

frosty junco
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That’s probably not gonna clear it though. Even with like 2x 410 510 510 510 510 510 you’re gonna have your hands full

chilly valve
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press it twice! --zhagen just bit the dust

frosty junco
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Heh. I find core tap not as effective against disirs, undansormrs, disciples and a few of the other higher level guys just given their crazy DS and resistance to disables

They tend to require special attention

nimble canyon
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the one case to core tap 412 5 times?

frosty junco
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Probably not even worth it! I had to look up 412 in the wiki, not gonna lie

nimble canyon
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lol. I keep wanting to find some place where it is. Maybe the wyrm? probably immune. most things don't live long enough to be worth it

frosty junco
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Okay, thought about it a bit more. Order of operations when entering the death room I just described:

  1. Core tap x2

Likely kills the mutant and draugr but barely touches the others

  1. Focus disciple ASAP with astral spear wandolier until dead

  2. Focus undansormr, maybe cast call wind 1x so acid mist doesn’t start to get me

  3. Finish off the disirs and hope I’m still alive

chilly valve
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so blessed HW doesnt have those reflecty anti caster mobs. i mean if I see 6 hard critters in one room either run or go all in core taps

frosty junco
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I don’t see many people use arcane barrier in HW but has some usefulness

cloud orchid
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The Greatchamber has some weird pathing issue going on where it traps critters in it

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you can get hellish swarms in there

frosty junco
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Not an issue, it’s a feature

cloud orchid
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oh no leave it
when i feeling like playing John Rambo, I rush in and go go go go

chilly valve
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I really wish there was more whacky stuff like falling in a pit with 1 elite Disir and 2 normal disirs and you can't leave until you kill them ..... or like gigas war horn sounds warning for 60 seconds and then you get warcamp level spawns directly on you for a minute. Or like you come across a wounded <insert NPC> and you have to defend them in the wild as they slowly roll around for X minutes. Also, treasure goblin...

sharp raptor
frosty junco
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I killed 19 critters in the fjallarhart great room a few months ago. Wizard shield, wall of force and two immediate core taps

No idea why so many were stuck there

cloud orchid
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some rooms that don't have easy ways out let critters in but not out. particularly if the way in is not the same as the way out

fair comet
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I’ve often thought hunting could get interesting if you couldn’t leave a room until enemies were cleared, always feels a bit weird how you can just run when things get sticky

cloud orchid
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I would love some legend of zelda, door closes, deal with it rooms

lime swan
fair comet
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really weird wyrm fight today - I was primarily locked up in sympathy, to the extent that I did maybe around 1000 damage ```You remain steadfast in your goal of defending a silver-scaled cold wyrm.
An ominous shadow falls over your surroundings as a whistling hail of arrows arcs down from above!
[SMR result: 199 (Open d100: 47, Bonus: 80)]
A heavily armored battle mastodon is transfixed by an arrow's descent!
... 30 points of damage!
Great shot penetrates thigh and shatters bone!

** The tip of the spiraled arrow suddenly shatters and bursts into a ball of flame! **
... 20 points of damage!
Nasty burns to back. Won't be sleeping on that for awhile.
[SMR result: 95 (Open d100: 75, Bonus: 1)]
An arrow falls to the ground, narrowly missing a silver-scaled cold wyrm!
After hitting the mastodon, droplets of blood are sucked from it to your sephwir long bow, running up the bow to be absorbed by the vines wrapped around your wrist.
A strong breeze continues to swirl through the area.
A heavily armored battle mastodon struggles momentarily with the gale.
A silver-scaled cold wyrm struggles momentarily with the gale.
A silver-scaled cold wyrm's eyes glint with liquid silver as she diverts a fraction of her concentration into restoring herself.
Your sympathy toward a silver-scaled cold wyrm overwhelms you as you endure an onslaught of emotions.
Roundtime: 6 sec.
Pained spasms wrack the battered form of the great cold wyrm. The vanquished wyrm gasps futilely for breath, the gelid, caustic spittle bubbling up from her mouth shot through with silver-sheened crimson blood. With a last, terrible convulsion, the wyrm crashes to the ground and lies still.``` was definitely a fresh spawn that had just landed, so why did it die so soon?

sharp raptor
# fair comet really weird wyrm fight today - I was primarily locked up in sympathy, to the ex...

There are a couple of potential reasons I've figured out through my research.

  1. If there is no player target in the room, gigas (and potentially other critters) seem to attack the wyrm reducing its health. If it lands in a gigas-heavy area and everything is left unengaged, that can add up to substantial damage quickly as they are not limited to the 5-character threshold.

  2. You were not the first to engage. Even if only a few minutes have passed since landing, there a chance a character or group has already engaged it and either it ran off from that engagement or the characters fighting it disengaged it. A small group can deal substantial damage in 3 minutes. Side note: someone casting swarm on the wyrm will cause it to disengage and run away in a frenzy.

lime swan
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That is interesting - how did you see the gigas attacking the wyrm? I do track it with my familiar sometimes, but it typically is moving very fast

sharp raptor
cloud orchid
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Gotta love cripple

[SMR result: 137 (Open d100: 17, Bonus: 31)]
You sidle in close and drag the blade across the back of his right leg!
   ... 15 points of damage!
   Downward slash across the winged disir's right thigh!
   Might not scar.
   The winged disir is stunned!
A shining winged disir is rooted in place!

 ** A torrent of shimmering dust roils around you before forming an ordered phalanx of crystalline swords and tridents that plunge into a shining winged disir in a violent storm of Liabo-hued light! **
   ... 20 points of damage!
   Nasty jolt to abdomen makes a shining winged disir's stomach turn.  Urp. 
Riotous Liabo-hued energy races along the surface of the sword, slender tendrils rising up to coalesce into the ethereal form of a hollow-eyed valravn.

** Surrounded by a shroud of clinging shadows, a hollow-eyed ethereal valravn swoops down with an eerily echoing shriek as a murder of distorted Liabo-hued valravns lurch around it on a wave of disruption! **

   ... 30 points of damage!
   Skull and surrounding flesh disintegrate.  The winged disir falls to the ground dead.
Deafening silence crashes down over you.  A flash of blinding white light erupts from the disir, leaving her afterimage seared into your eyes.
Blinding light explodes from the disir's eyes and mouth as her wings spread, unfurled by the throes of her agony.  The radiance sears her shadow onto the ground behind her as she topples backward, lifeless.
The licks of blue flame surrounding a shining winged disir flare up one last time before vanishing with a staticky crackle.
Roundtime: 2 sec.```
cyan lynx
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Wyrm redesign is still on my slate.

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But I'm crawling close to the finish line on another project at the moment.

fair comet
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Is it the hive?!

near arch
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Does that project rhyme with “the bive”

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Man he just tweeted it out

cyan lynx
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What a weird question.

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I'm going to the one place that hasn't been corrupted by capitalism. SPACE!

azure mantle
cyan lynx
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Hah.

lime swan
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hm. what am I supposed to do if an ooze eats me and I'm missing my right arm. can't do the normal thing to escape

answer is apparently die

lime knot
lime swan
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i was slowly going through my random teleport items trying to find one that worked. but got stuck on one that i couldn't wear. but then i couldn't inspect it to figure out its worn location and couldn't figure out what to take off to wear it...

frosty junco
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Ugh. Gold ring work?

opal pine
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Pray for someone to kill your ooze I think is the only option

frosty junco
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Hmm if you have a sigil staff can you incant spells off of the staff while inside an ooze?

lime swan
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gold ring didn't work. i think there is just a blanket ban on any verbs besides get, put, and the escape one. what was annoying is that i still had one arm left and couldn't use it to escape!

marsh canyon
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Beseech plate with voln armor used to work, but it doesn't anymore.

lime swan
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who doesn't pick up their boxes in HW :offended:

earnest pagoda
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Any tips for a AMbushing Brawler Rogue for HW, recently Capped, or is it too soon?

worthy knoll
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hinterwilds generally isn't very friendly to fresh capped anyone, if you have some pretty amazing gear it's doable certainly

tribal quarry
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Hm. Monks can do fine at fresh cap, but that's through sheer number of attacks in a single command. It might be viable on a rogue using UAC, but you'd need to knock down almost anything in the hunting ground first for it to even have a chance of working since so many of the creatures are gigantic. 🤔 (And I don't mean Subdue; I mean Sweep or Twin Hammerfists. Subdue doesn't drop them far enough.)

If you're picky and just stick to the Boreal Forest and Ojandhaart, I assume it's probably fine. But if you can't handle those areas, you're not handling anything else in the Hinterwildseither.

earnest pagoda
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In Shattered, so ya. A few coolio items, shadarl brig, ko gloves and Boots with flares and material flares, and sk506

Hopefully some good hiding and punches will do ok

Does Voln Sleep work well there?

cloud orchid
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its meh. Decent

cloud orchid
proven nova
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I like how you buried SK 506 at the end lolol

tribal quarry
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Got over a hundred Hinterwilds boxes sitting at a table. Let's see if any feeder frenzy stuff comes of them. 😮

nimble canyon
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Wonder if we can get any confirmation if the feeder odds are tied to quality points on loot event

frosty junco
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That’d be interesting. I feel like I’ve informally gathered a ton of intel about the basic loot system over the years. But when it comes to feeder drops, I’m clueless - other than that they’re super rare

keen fog
cloud orchid
# 
A crumbling red stone maw in the southern wall opens onto a vast nexus of cavernous catacombs.  Flickering blue torchlight beckons from the vast aperture, the distant light casting the intersection into starker shadow.  Wide tunnels branch off in each of the cardinal directions, suggesting that the construction is not natural, but the walls, ground, and ceiling are rough natural stone shot through with vast ruddy veins of ore.  You also see a clawed arm, a pair of skeletal arms, a clawed arm, a decayed arm, a fleshless arm, a bloody arm, a mangled arm, a mangled arm, a flayed arm, a clawed arm, a desiccated arm, a bloated arm, a withered shadow-cloaked draugr, a pair of mangled arms, a flayed arm, a desiccated arm, a bloody arm, a pair of gnarled arms, a gnarled arm, a flayed arm, a roiling crimson angargeist, a roiling crimson angargeist, a roiling crimson angargeist, an eyeless black valravn that is lying down and a shining winged disir that is lying down.
Obvious exits: north, east, south, west```
olive vale
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How much Survival is needed to freely move in HW?

cloud orchid
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0?

You might slip on an ice patch here and there...but its rare

olive vale
cloud orchid
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Oh, not really no. But there are two ways to completely ignore it.

  1. You pay sparkfinger the alchemist some gigas fragments (found from HW critters) for immunity for 15 mins
  2. A puzzle ||You find the frostling in the crystalline glade and give them any junk item you like and they'll make you immune for an hour||
olive vale
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Great, thanks

junior linden
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The behmothic gorefrost golems have an ability to sort of 'freeze' you which slows you down and adds RT. However, there is no listing of it in Spells Active as either a debuff or anything like that- is that intentional?

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I think something similar happens in South Scatter- not sure though... it's an environmental thing there rather than a creature ability.

ashen tapir
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@sharp raptor 🐲

Can we get an @🐉 for this channel?

sharp raptor
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On my way, has it landed yet?

azure mantle
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wher is it?

ashen tapir
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didn't see

calm flint
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Survival is just an on paper stat that makes rangers feel good, no one really needs it for much of anything 😛

olive vale
calm flint
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I mean, some amount is maybe useful, but 3x or even 2x is just for RP basically bc you're still gonna fall on your arse walking to Icemule and feel like a tool

cloud orchid
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1x surv is still half way to a good skinning game

calm flint
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Yeah, not really a huge "hell yeah" on 3x, shop returns don't make me feel very bad arse 😆

rocky galleon
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Need to get a sporestaff or bow… feel those gainz.

calm flint
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I have one, but paying money as the sole means of making my marquee class skill shine feels....

cloud orchid
# 
The entrance stands, framed by a pair of colossal red stone pillars, at the apogee of a crescent-shaped walk that curves along the interior of the fane.  Towering gigas statues, male and female, stand with battleaxes in hand in alcoves along either wall.  Their faces are unwelcoming and their postures unmistakably aggressive.  Ruddy stone steps breach the wall to the north, heading precipitously downward into stygian shadow.  You also see an eyeless black valravn that is flying around, an eyeless black valravn that appears dead, a soft silk vest, a squamous reptilian mutant that appears dead, a grim gigas skald that appears dead, a colossal boreal undansormr that appears dead, a squamous reptilian mutant that appears dead and a withered shadow-cloaked draugr that appears dead.
Obvious exits: east, west```
Just another day in the Greatchamber
cloud orchid
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Finally got around to doing Zerroth

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proven nova
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Tickle those toesies

cloud orchid
versed sail
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I like those pics. Does the room description imply an open space like that?

cloud orchid
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Its open air at the top of the mausoleum

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:edited slightly to beat the gore filters:
A red, thick liquid pools thick and dark on the dais, dripping from and oozing between the blocks of ruddy feldspar in a constant sluggish flow. The source appears to be a monstrous figure draped across an equally behemothic bier of red-veined white marble. A quintet of rounded stone pillars supports an ornate roof over the fallen armored giant, and each pillar is deeply graven with a downturned scimitar outlined in smeared ash. Wind barely whispers over the ground, as if even the brazen elements fear the place.

cyan lynx
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Accurate.

frosty junco
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I have to say, damage padding does WORK in the Hinterwilds.

I took a nasty stun from a massive open roll deathnado with two valravns in the room earlier today. They proceeded to deathnado me 3 more times during the duration of the stun, with a total of over 20 damage cycles across those deathnados.

The measly 3 CER damage padding on my armor saved me, and I walked away with a bunch of wounds and 50-some odd HPs

It’s good for the undansormr acid spray and mana burst too

cyan lynx
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Nice.

fair comet
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new gem? feel like I haven't seen this before ```You ask Etaenia to appraise a niveous snowdrop.
The jeweler Etaenia takes the niveous snowdrop and inspects it carefully before saying, "I'll give you 4,222 silvers for it if you want to sell."

A few withered tendrils of vine fall away from you, taking their gift of strength with them.

examine snowdrop
Tear-shaped, the snowdrop is a striking translucent white. It is of a size that it might be mistaken for a hailstone, were it not for the startling radiance channeled by its facets. Impurities within the gem form the faint suggestion of falling snowflakes, not one of the frosty occlusions completely alike to another.```

opal pine
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Never seen one either, that's neat

fair comet
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also found a spruce green emerald and a spindle of icicle jade, maybe new permanent additions? or maybe just seasonal, don't know

# 
>look lichstone
Black in color, the lichstone holds dark whispers of other hues, bloody reds seeping into cold blues and mossy greens.  Uncut facets lend it a rugged texture that make the jewel look as if it has weathered the passage of ages.  Its depths are impenetrable and inky, of a black that refuses even the brightest light.```
sharp raptor
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Something has changed... finding... strange things in the Angargreft. I am intrigued.

fair comet
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few more new ones popped up, I thought I saw Auchand mention an Icemule gem update somewhere - might be imagining that though, not sure... here it is #1124828596956053555 message

sharp raptor
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Neat. It's more than a few. At this rate the number of unique gems to the Hinterwilds is maybe doubled in size. Some very nice ones I'm coming across too!

So far I've come across...

||a red-clouded black moonstone
a blue-green glacial core
a small round graupel onyx
a brilliant snowblind diamond
a chunk of age-darkened ivory
a rutilated frostbite amethyst
a dark red-violet garnet
a stygian lichstone
a spruce green emerald
a spindle of icicle jade
a niveous snowdrop
a flickering snowfire ruby
a fragment of pale blue glacialite
a carmine cinnabar stone
a faceted teal sapphire
a clear azure hoarstone
a cabochon torchlight carnelian
a disk of petrified spruce
||

opal pine
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Richly imbued with the hues of ancient ice at a glacier's heart, the core wavers between a green so deep as to be almost black and a rich, oceanic blue.  Both tones converge within the heart of the gem, which burns with a frigid light.  Shaped like a spindle, the gem's crystalline structure fades toward silver at its extremes.```
thick wing
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gaaaah. I am going to have to clean out more locker space.

cloud orchid
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wow, nice

cyan lynx
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Hinterwilds shares some gems with Icemule Trace.

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Icemule Trace and Zul Logoth have some new gems.

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Blame it on seismic activity.

thick wing
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whimper

thick wing
cyan lynx
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Hinterwilds gems have been updated so that there are no longer two rutilated twilight tourmalines. The lower-value ones will now drop as "tiny nightsky tourmalines".

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Any old ones will need to be sold off to the gem shop, but new ones should bundle together cleanly.

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All gems of sufficient value now have an orb chance and a recharge chance that scales with the gem's value, similar to gems found in Wehnimer's.

frosty junco
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Auchand, you are a gem!

tribal quarry
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Will there be bounties for both types?

thick wing
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do Icemule Trace and Zul Logoth have the same new gems?

cyan lynx
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No.

cyan lynx
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Well, wait.

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Bounties will work off of the current gems.

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If that clarifies things.

tribal quarry
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I meant will there be separate bounties for rutilated twilight tourmalines and also tiny nightsky tourmalines?

cyan lynx
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Yes.

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They were always two separate gems, they just had the same 15/15/15 because of human error.

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(Mine, probably.)

tribal quarry
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Yeah, my gem bottles definitely noticed they were separate. 🤣

thick wing
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finds another error
man, I love the alliteration in this.

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Bugged.

stuck blade
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blue-violet chunks of kornerupine        1     no ```
Is this possibly another similar issue with HW gems?  Ended up in 2 different jars and wouldn't combine for some reason.
thick wing
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I've never had an issue with that particular gem before, but I had an issue with snowflake zircons (not tiny, old ones) where I was able to put them into two different jars and then empty one jar into the other.
but they wouldn't go directly into the same jar.

chilly valve
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I just sold 10 Virulescent nephrites for a bounty only to realize they wanted jagged nephrites, and the 10 i sold were useless! That hurt my soul.

cyan lynx
cyan lynx
stuck blade
ivory crescent
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Does Alchemy Examine work on any of the new gems? Hopefully some substitutes.

ivory crescent
opal pine
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That's neat

thick wing
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so far, 36 or 37 new ones found.

thick wing
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Found another one:
an ebon winternight sapphire
The sapphire is a large, oval-cut black gem of surpassingly high luster. In its dark heart lie silvery blue glints that coldly scintillate with its harnessed fire. Channeled by its tiny facets, light within the gem winks like a constellation of silvery stars.

calm flint
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Well, glad Auchand finished all those new hunting grounds and can finally get back to what really matters in the world, Hinterwilds Fishing! 😛

vale cliff
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but what about the fossilized undanDsormr egg typo that's been there since the beginning when the creature is undansormr?

cyan lynx
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That was fixed in 2022.

vale cliff
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i know someone who hunted there only in september this year and its in all their gems

calm flint
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I want an UdonSomemore egg

thick wing
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No, it was fixed YESTERDAY

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I found one yesterday. It goes in my jar with the half dozen or so I got de-typoed through an assist. (You were right about that! Thanks bunches.)

Also: Auchand, I am sitting here agog and drooling over the faceted stormcloud alexandrites I found this afternoon in HW.

cyan lynx
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🙂

thick wing
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Thanks for fixing the typo(s) (I haven't gotten another spruce emerald to check that one yet.)

opal pine
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The new gems are lovely, but you sure have complicated the gem bounty game 😆 😬

ashen tapir
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@sharp raptor 🐉 Sanguine Grove

mighty epoch
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Is it intended that you can 740 out of HW but not into?

thick wing
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You pick up a fossilized rolton tooth.
You peer intently at the rolton tooth as you turn it in your fingers, meticulously inspecting for flaws. You estimate that the rolton tooth is of very cheap quality and worth approximately 5 silvers.

chilly valve
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How the heck did that get up so far north? Gigas evolved from roltons??

lime knot
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Rol-tons

thick wing
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a fossilized rolton tooth
Ancient and darkened to the hue of old bone, the tooth appears to be a rolton molar. Its chewing surface is broad and flat, ground almost smooth from chewing. Age has allowed cracks to spiderweb across the surface, undermining the tooth's integrity.

cyan lynx
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I like how you're running away from 40-foot proto-giants with skin that adapts to the elements, and your worry is that there might have been sheep up there once upon a time.

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Sheep. Totes implausible.

ashen tapir
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@sharp raptor 🐉 but i'm out of lands now

sharp raptor
sharp raptor
chilly valve
vale cliff
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it looks like the fossilized undansormr egg typo was only half fixed, since the typo with the extra D is still present in alchemy examine. So the auto-jarring containers don't recognize the new eggs to jar and reflects the incorrect spelling still when you LOOK in the container. Can the alchemy examine also be fixed for the gems with typos in the base descriptions?

tribal quarry
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So... on one hand, it's now "a fossilized undansormr egg."

On the other hand, it now appears in Misc of the SortedView (instead of Gems) and can no longer be purified. Is that intentional?

Edit: Also, a separate but vaguely related thing, but the myriad new gems aren't all (maybe even "all aren't") configured to make it possible to RUMMAGE them or jars of them out of containers.

earnest spire
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Eyyy just solo'd a wyrm with a throwing net.You step out of hiding to waylay a silver-scaled cold wyrm! You swing a tightly-woven throwing net at a silver-scaled cold wyrm! AS: +693 vs DS: +358 with AvD: -3 + d100 roll: +51 = +383 ... and hit for 250 points of damage! Pained spasms wrack the battered form of the great cold wyrm. The vanquished wyrm gasps futilely for breath, the gelid, caustic spittle bubbling up from her mouth shot through with silver-sheened crimson blood. With a last, terrible convulsion, the wyrm crashes to the ground and lies still. Roundtime: 4 sec.

thick wing
# tribal quarry So... on one hand, it's now "a fossilized undansormr egg." On the other hand, i...

New gems have to be added to the ingredients list for rummage ingredient. It's already on Vanah's list of things to do. I don't know about the undansormr egg issues; my own beef with the new gems is how LOOT BOX (and I assume loot room) now puts all nuggets, petrified warg fangs, and carved basalt teardrops in general instead of gems for stow?

ETA: Rummage ingredient isn't currently possible, but rummage FOR is. It's just not as effective because it can conflict with jar descriptions as well as gem descriptions.

calm flint
thick wing
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...palladium nuggets aren't purifiable either anymore.

stuck blade
stuck blade
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Disir swing lances?

pliant hatch
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Yes. It says spear but it’s a lance mechanically.

stuck blade
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Gotcha, they're getting some fairly high health damage minors on me. Was wondering. Haven't really hunted the pits before but figured I'd try it on my empat

cloud orchid
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They hit hard for sure

stuck blade
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A suit of stygian rusalkoren platemail suffused with erratic caligninous whorls of azure partially deflects the onslaught of the puncture attack.
  AS: +654 vs DS: +560 with AvD: +32 + d100 roll: +88 = +214
   ... and hits for 29 points of damage!
   Minor puncture to the right arm.
Your rusalkoren platemail flashes red and you suddenly feel enraged!

 ** Grey light radiates from your rusalkoren platemail and you feel 2 mana surge into you! **```
Worst hit so far.
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They shield throw too =/

cloud orchid
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Yeah, if you disarm the lance they pull out a shield

marsh canyon
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Disarming them is the first thing I do

timid shuttle
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Eye strike from a lanced Disir can get just about anyone

proven nova
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Stygian, so hot right now

cloud orchid
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I haven't been one shot by a disir in a long while. I've got some great 500+ endrolls to the head and neck that haven't killed me

cyan lynx
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Everything is stygian.

sharp raptor
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Oh nice! Just killed my 75th warg packmother, and this is the first time I've seen a new skin drop in the Hinterwilds. I always skin them, and it's been a niveous warg pelt like all the other wargs, this time I got an alabaster warg pelt when I skinned her. Now I want to check the next wrym I slay to see if maybe it has skins since things are changing. Very cool trophy.

opal pine
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Oh awesome. That was something that always bugged me, glad to see a unique skin. Now I need to find a packmother again 😄

pliant hatch
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Oh that's cool, I was similarly disappointed by the stock skin being on those

cloud orchid
calm flint
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would be cool if it was a diff noun so you could eventually have the hardest to make pack mommy sheath that took you 55 years to get enough skins for 😛

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I know I'd be like "yo, that person with that pack mommy sheath is THE BOSS"

frosty junco
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Anyone else seeing a lot of spectral/ghostly critters in the HW today? Is it just someone using one of those EG rings?

I saw a ghostly something cannibal today which did a weird mstrike which dispelled me like 4x. Didn’t think that could happen from the necro ring stuff

pliant hatch
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I saw a spectral berserker this morning, someone definitely using a necro ring

frosty junco
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Does the ring give them special abilities though?

lime knot
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It can.

near arch
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An upgraded necro ring can make boon ghosts

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Rude not to clean your ghosts up haha

lime knot
cloud orchid
near arch
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It’s funny because it takes a fair amount of investment to make the ring make boon ghosts hahaha

lime knot
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there was a vvrael destroyer with dispelling and regeneration that probablly killed 20 people in the rift a while back

opal pine
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Wonder what he put his ASC points into.

near arch
pliant hatch
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i think it killed 3 or 4 different people several times. iirc it killed ffng like four times

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got into rage-decay-respell-repeat mode

lime knot
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This was pre asc so it was a little more popping! But yes took me several tries lol

frosty junco
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Makes sense. It doesn’t particularly bother me. Was just curious if the boss critter system had been extended into the HW. Apparently not yet 🙂

opal pine
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I'm torn on that. I wouldn't mind it in the forest or ojan/eldur. But boss disir/disciples/angryghosts sounds horrifying

cyan lynx
sharp raptor
# frosty junco Anyone else seeing a lot of spectral/ghostly critters in the HW today? Is it ju...

Yes, and I know who is causing it. A frequent hunter there has their Lich's Curse turned on their necro ring (and must have it boosted pretty high) and since spectrals like to hide, whatever hunting script they're using just runs out of the room when it doesn't see them. The annoying part is you can tap the necro ring to turn off the curse and it wouldn't make spectrals (will still make the same amount of non-boss undead). So... I'm not sure why they're doing it.

shy torrent
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Found a regenerating shielded berserker today. It was a HP sponge for sure

cloud orchid