#3v3 as Lion

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manic socket
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Hi I am also a Lion player and have ~60h playtime. (I only play Lion)

I am playing 3v3 mode with friends. Our comb is Goat, Lion, Ox because they are our favourite Clans. They expect me to scout and sometimes to recruit Archers for us.
But in those games I feel like I can't get strong with Lion Kingdom because I don't play to it's strengths.
On top of it I have to be 801 defense ready in most of the ranked games.

I find it hard to fit in and what playstyle would you recommend?

tame viper
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If you’re playing without a clear that’s your first problem.

patent wyvern
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Aside from that you are setting yourself up for failure with this comp, you shouldn't be the one scouting.

Goat should take a support role, with scouting and feasting while ox and you try to scale as fast as possible while also being ready to defend a very likely rush.

proven sequoia
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Lion cant scout, in that teamcomb its the goats job, also to feast and clear for your ox. You as Lion should clear yourself

manic socket
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defenitely helped already to understand what we need to do better in the game. I'm taking it into the next games

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runic rover
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Unfortunately, you won't win much with such a teamcomp. Ox requires a babysit and with no clear there is no one to provide it. Additionally, the presence of ox + lion in the team forces the opponent to attack as quickly as possible, so in most of games you will be attacked very quickly, assuming that you are not playing against completely new players.

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So because there is no one to take care of ox, he will be slowed down. And if goat takes care of clear, then goat will be slowed down. It all comes down to the fact that the opposing team will always have an advantage unless they give you a head start by allowing you to reach 802

proven sequoia
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# runic rover So because there is no one to take care of ox, he will be slowed down. And if go...

I do fully agree with all that. But if they must maintain the comp I will suggest that the Goat focus on heavy scouting and feasting and that the Lion try to clear. Then maybe they could have a chance. It might be somewhat viable if he becomes proficient at clearing with Lion, ofc, that it’s not to say a Lion can do by any chance do better than a Lynx/Eagle/Wolf …

In other words a better comp would be Ox+Goat+Lynx

proven sequoia
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proven sequoia
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the 2 20% hp sentries surely can keep clearing

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manic socket
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xD

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runic rover
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You can't do much 😦 Ox + Lion in 3v3 is a bit of a trollpick, bigger than a double clear because in that case you control the game and impose the rules. And in the case of ox + lion you have to count on the mercy of your opponent

tribal rock
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What about ox going bottom warcraft and playing as clear 😂😉

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tribal rock
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I mean no. But…

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Just to troll around a little

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If this is the fixed comp and no clear. No much option😀

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tribal rock
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Triple horse might be a valid enemy comp

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raven dawn
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Ass the best player on lion clan i recomend you to find new team bc your clan needs everyone to play on you and then you destroy everyone

runic rover
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lion is pretty independent and self-sufficient, it just need time

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stray quiver
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if you want to make it work, you should let the goat scout and then take over the clear role as ox+lion, where you recruit chief, body + couple of sentries (later replaced with better units) and ox provides 2 warriors (maybe 1 in early stages), which are there for damage and you should be the one taking hits.

the way it can work (read "not be completely abyssmal") is that lion can play full mid fast builds and get some faith with hildegard and ox is reliant on getting 1500 legions, which actually forces a good ox to make some convert late 801 anyway and go farm the map or go trade units with enemy.

in your setup, you do it from the beginning and both of your eco clans have military xp, which is very important, since 1500 and 3000 leaderships are very strong and 1500 leg ox is game winning in ox-ox match up.

your biggest problem is healing of hildegard because your healing hut is 100w 50 gold 5 stone, but there is nothing impossible and i cleared with lion in friendly lobbies ~300-400 gp 3v3 and 4v4.

Goat actually raises chief very early too (or he should) and therefore there is someone to tank while you heal hildi.

also learn to get a free camp upgrade from full mid lion and to kite draugr tombs with 2x archers + hildi + body.

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last tip: if you have troubles surviving 801 change comp you can try to make your ox friend go leadership as well and play shield+warrior mix (both forged) as a normal viking clan, but it is edgy (although sometimes works) and you should just improve your map clearing speed and multitasking with eco development + clearing simultaneously. Good Luck!

raven dawn
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Yeah if you have any dificultiest at start of the game i recomend you to play some FFA bc in it you will be obligated to survive alone and it will give you some practise faster than other game modes. Adding in FFA you should always be prepared and at the same time to go for a long bc of big map. For me it worked as an excellent pratice mode to study how to dominate by Lion alone. After this you can alredy easily play any other game mode and understand what you can do for 802 or 803 and what you need to do in general. Its fun to play too so it wont be boring.

tropic bison
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There is no way to make it work for real games, in ranked its unwritten requirement to have clearer. Also goat scouting and feasting will be much weakened in late game, its too much duties for one person to scout feast and clear xD.

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And trust me clearing is funny part of the game, as you start playimg it, you will never want to back to previous comp.

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One thing I would also reccomend you. If you like archers you can swap to lynx. Main benefits are:

  • lynx is easier than eagle to learn
  • combines perfectly with goat and ox (you feast cheaper, goat fas more value from your feast, goat can scout there, if ox pull with relict your archers do devastating dmg)
  • you have clearer
  • still can enjoy archers playstyle