calamity-update-talk

[spice hound]

What even is a flinx anyways

[dull heart]

The Snow Flinx will repeatedly hit a closed door in its path, but it is unable to open it.
huh?

flinx try to open doors but can't??

[spice hound]

Well they got no hands so they arent able to turn the doornob, so sad

[dull heart]

evil higher res flinx

[blazing field]

that would be kind of funny tbh

[dull heart]

All the Flinx lived in harmony... until the Fire Flinx attacked

[solemn crest]

The flinx fur coat… what have we done

[strong isle]

Damn ahh creature

[spice hound]

Poaching endangered animals

[dusk bronze]

name it sun bat

[blazing field]

cluebed

[urban cloak]

just some bullshit with fur

[blazing field]

in all fairness they ARE meant to be a redesigned version of sunbats im pretty sure

[dusk bronze]

likely

[blazing field]

the same way that the seacilian is a redesigned version of the uhhh parasea enemy that was scrapped

[dusk bronze]

the whuh

[dull heart]

we should make Air Flinx into a worm

[frail owl]

doze worm

[dull heart]

i'll make the player into a worm

[dusk bronze]

kid named tired tail

[dull heart]

... if i ever have a sprite made for tired tail's item

[blazing field]

another one of the mob vote creatures

it was a hardmode ocean enemy

[spice hound]

Just use the entire sprite of storm weavers body and tail segments

[blazing field]

that was a caecilian that would spit its babies at you

i wonder if the frogfish critters will come in hogwild

they feel like a hogwild feature

small silly thing

[dusk bronze]

wtf why did that send twice

thank you discord

[dull heart]

double spriter hell

[frail owl]

add wires

[dusk bronze]

i know what that is, i'm wondering about the parasea thing

[urban cloak]

❌

[dull heart]

idek what the item sprite would be like from a general design so i can't even put an asset request out for it

[urban cloak]

no animations

[blazing field]

ah fair

triangle hasnt finished them yet i assume

[solemn crest]

Add thrower

[blazing field]

last time i checked there was some good progresso n them but makes sense

[dull heart]

:spriterhell:

[blazing field]

oh it was a leviathan minion

[dusk bronze]

explain this liberal

[blazing field]

that also spawned naturally in the ocean

they got shot and killed

[urban cloak]

triangle's been trapped animating hog for like 2 weeks now

[blazing field]

HOG HELL.

[solemn crest]

How horrible

[blazing field]

They were basically the same thing as aquatic aberrations. grene guys that leviathan sapwns in its fight

[urban cloak]

actually that's probably an exaggerating it was originally dia's before he left

so maybe like 1 week

[dusk bronze]

oh right those fuckers

[urban cloak]

still hog hell though

[blazing field]

also did you know aquatic aberrations used to spawn naturally at the ocean for some reason

[dull heart]

triangle has become hog captive so the rest of us can go hog wild

[urban cloak]

there's 5 more of them and i literally dont know where this came from

like i dont remember that getting posted in dev

[dull heart]

very possible it wasn't tbh

[dusk bronze]

twas posted in here or calart idr

[solemn crest]

You know how 1.4.5 introduced different hurt sound accessories?

Imagine one for the hog

[dull heart]

storm weaver hurt sound

[dusk bronze]

Roated

[spice hound]

Death whistle on hurt sound

[urban cloak]

does weaver even have unique hurt sounds

[solemn crest]

That’s me!

[tropic jolt]

why are we trying to kill yharim, is the player evil?

[solemn crest]

Where’s the Terrarian lore image?

[urban cloak]

now THIS is possible

[blazing field]

fucked up how

divine swine is probably one of the last things dia did for calamity before leaving

[urban cloak]

i forgot about the dd2 sounds those would've made good placeholders

[tropic jolt]

killing old people is wrong I think… calamity is problematic

[blazing field]

talking about which. did dia pull any of his stuff, if that's allowed to be disclosed

[dull heart]

they're so good

[blazing field]

i thougth his concepts for the blood lihzahrd faction he posted back in calart where awesome as hell

[dusk bronze]

true

[blazing field]

was wondering if those still have a chance of making it in

[urban cloak]

genuinely might be some of the best sound design for the game and its for the event barely anyone cares about 🥹

[blazing field]

i know that tobias didn't pull his stuff which is #swag since tobiart is based and cool and awesome

[urban cloak]

afaik no

[dull heart]

the blood lizahrd stuff was not pulled but i still wouldn't bet on it happening

due to other reasons

[blazing field]

ah, sad

[dusk bronze]

3 spriter hells

[blazing field]

i assume its internal development plans that can't really get talked about

[spice hound]

Wait hold on calamity tubular bell sound on hit accessory

[dull heart]

primarily the fact that dia was the one most interested in that

[dull heart]

wait actually

[solemn crest]

This is peak

[dusk bronze]

i have a texture pack that makes that the death sound

it's so funny

[urban cloak]

calamity bell hit sound item and horrible hog hit sound item

[solemn crest]

Yharon roar hurt sound?

[urban cloak]

1.4.5 port will be grand

[amber egret]

"Totally tubular, bro!"

[spice hound]

Old duke roar sound accessory

[urban cloak]

actually yknow what we should do

aureus hit sound item

[solemn crest]

DoG hurt sound

[spice hound]

The entire lyrics of roar of the jungle dragon on hit sound

[dull heart]

isn't that just titan heart armor

[urban cloak]

titan heart stole it

[solemn crest]

Calamitas laugh hurt sound

[urban cloak]

does it work if you have it in vanity slots actually

[spice hound]

Primordial worm spawn sound on hit

[dull heart]

wait

i just learned they made Whoopie Cushion also a hurt sound accessory

[solemn crest]

Dragonfolly scream hit sound

[urban cloak]

did you know thats just besty's scream

[spice hound]

Desert scourge sand blast regurgitation sound on hit

[dull heart]

i do actually want the calamity bell one

[dusk bronze]

antlion sound i believe

[dull heart]

i think that'd be peak

[spice hound]

Would the calamity bell one be like a bell as an item

[solemn crest]

Wait dude is there just a generic slime/zombie/fleshy hurt sound item?

[spice hound]

Wait make it an exhume of the bell or fairy bell item

[dusk bronze]

making it only available postgame would be bad i think

how often are you dying post scal

[dull heart]

Grim Old Barb

[urban cloak]

bell + ashes of calamity + essence of havoc

calamity bell

[cedar topaz]

Never

[spice hound]

[solemn crest]

Defense damage sound hurt sound

[spice hound]

Also its on hit not death

[dusk bronze]

bell + demonic bone ash

[spice hound]

[dull heart]

way too late in progression

[solemn crest]

Adrenaline lost hurt sound

[dull heart]

iirc all the sound items are actually like really early in progression

[spice hound]

Pre-boss iirc

[solemn crest]

Roated hurt sound

[dusk bronze]

wait

put the calamity bell in a crags chest

[dull heart]

okay yeah they're all pre boss

[urban cloak]

im not really sure where you'd put this one outside of the crags or a shop ngl

[dull heart]

from chessts

[dull heart]

add it to the vanilla voice item pool

idk

[spice hound]

actually this could work

[urban cloak]

i guess if all of them are obtained that way sure

[dusk bronze]

crags chests..

[urban cloak]

would be consistent

[spice hound]

Not all of them whoopie cushion doesn’t spawn in chetss

[dull heart]

all of them except Whoopie Cushion bc that was grandfathered into being a voice item

[urban cloak]

yea whoopie cushion can be the exception cause it existed prior

[dull heart]

Cushion is also the only one to be used in recipes and to have a use besides the hurt sound

[spice hound]

But also finding them in chests rarely wouldn’t really be fun due to how hard they are to actually find in my experience

[urban cloak]

but if the rest of em are from chests then yea we just add em to the pool

[dusk bronze]

old duke roar hurt sound

[dull heart]

i'd also suggest to make them into a crafting or shimmer loop probably

because yeah it's

[spice hound]

Wait that actually would be pretty good

[dull heart]

although

[dusk bronze]

cowlamity bell

[dull heart]

its a very different sound but already having a bell in the table does lead me to thinking putting it in crags would be better

[urban cloak]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[dull heart]

doesn't really matter right now either way

[urban cloak]

we'll decide once we start work on the port ig

[solemn crest]

I’m gonna add a me hurt sound and it’s just me screaming

[spice hound]

Make if spawn in one of the Crags chests, and also rarely from brimstone crates as well

[dull heart]

did we add slagfire douser to the crates...?

i just realized

[dusk bronze]

accessory that plays the entire cv desperation+death sound every time you get hit

[cedar topaz]

What is this

[dull heart]

now you can sound the same as your Sealed Singularity!

[spice hound]

Nuclear terror spawn sound accessory

[urban cloak]

yea

[dull heart]

oh good

[dusk bronze]

ravager limb break sound accessory

[cedar topaz]

What're you guys talking about

[dusk bronze]

terraria

[solemn crest]

Minecraft hurt sound

[cedar topaz]

Shocking

[urban cloak]

there will probably be a mod for that like a week after 1.4.5 goes public for tmod

[spice hound]

Sentence mixed audio from Roar of the Jungle Dragon to make him say “ow”, “yikes”, etc. sound accessory

[urban cloak]

that or there's already a texture pack for it

[spice hound]

Terraria character hurt sound sound accessory

[dusk bronze]

hive mind roar hurt sound accessory

[spice hound]

The entirety of Seahorse scrutiny as a hurt sound accessory not sped up at all

[dusk bronze]

🔥 🔥 🔥

[solemn crest]

Shroomble voomp hurt sound

[spice hound]

Vine boom on hurt sound accessory

[solemn crest]

The entire calamity OST hurt sound

[dusk bronze]

draedon summon hurt sound accessory

[spice hound]

Potion sickness cooldown end sound effect as a hurt sound

[solemn crest]

Cal dev scream hurt sound

[spice hound]

Astral probe hurt sound damage sound accessory

[solemn crest]

🔥

[spice hound]

Wait huh seemingly like every astral enemy uses that hurt sound

[urban cloak]

yea they all use the same one

[dusk bronze]

truly the enemies of all time

[spice hound]

Wait hold on astral slime doesn’t… it uses the slime hit sound

[urban cloak]

well yeah

its a slime

[spice hound]

Wait atlas doesn’t either thats why hes the best astral enemy

[urban cloak]

oh yeah atlas

[spice hound]

It actually has a decent amount of unique sounds huh

[urban cloak]

atlas is the special astral enemy cause it drops titan heart ig

its like the astral biome's own elite enemy

faux miniboss or smth

[spice hound]

I’m gonna be honest the atlas is like one of the like 3 cool enemies there the rest are really kinda lame

[urban cloak]

yeah

[spice hound]

Its also Probably the worst offender of mono-pallete biomes cos holy moly is everything there the same colour pallete

[urban cloak]

atlas, fusion feeder and nova are the most unique ones i remember off the top of my head

rest of them are pretty whatever

[spice hound]

Glommerlings are like interesting imo and weirdly cute idk

[urban cloak]

sightseer and big sightseer are eater of souls and corruptor respectively

aeries is astral derpling

astral slime is. a slime.

[spice hound]

Hadarian is a vulture, astrananchnea is a blood crawler/other spiders

[urban cloak]

mantis is a really fast fighter enemy that occasionally fires a projectile

astral probe is a naturally spawning destroyer probe (why????)

[spice hound]

Fusion feeder is a sand shark but like that one does have some reason why it’d be like that since each infected desert does have one

[urban cloak]

fusion feeder actually behaves differently from the other sand shark variants

hence why it stands out to me

[spice hound]

Twinkler is also a firefly copy like the lightning bug is for the hallow

[dull heart]

to be fair

[urban cloak]

twinklers are chill but i feel like i never see them

[dull heart]

it does make sense for the astral enemies to be similar to the normal ones

[spice hound]

They chill and do fit as a counterpart to lightning bugs

[dull heart]

but like, they should be based off the normal ones and unique

instead of just a reskin

[urban cloak]

🙂‍↕️

[spice hound]

Glomerlings are interesting because like they have no counterpart of a normal mob since their hive is explicitly an amalgamation of many creatures, so maybe trying to make the other mobs more akin to that with them being amalgamations of other mobs could be cool

Also looking at it its a bit odd theres no astral snow/ice mobs

Like in probably 75% of my playthroughs the astral infection at least partially infected a section of my snow/ice biome yet it doesn’t have any unique mobs but for some reason got like unique tree fruits?

[hollow adder]

one is definitely easier to make than the other

[urban cloak]

historically astral seems to have been built to just be another world evil and the infected snow biome tiles probably came after that fact, so unique enemies prolly werent considered

if they were tho then they just weren't implemented

and im too lazy to check dev server rn

[spice hound]

But like infected snow/ice biomes in vanilla do also still have a mob variant with pigrons

Give me an astral pigron which is a mutant alien pig monster

[urban cloak]

the pigrons are also highly forgettable and thats Literally It

hence why they dont exist

its ALSO possible people just didnt want an astral pigron but i wouldn't know

astral pigron sounds funny but i literally cannot imagine what that would look like

[spice hound]

I’d argue sand sharks are also forgettable in a similar way yet they get a variant
But like I do hope the astral gets good new enemies if it eventually gets reworked

[spice hound]

Just make it a recolour of pigron with a recoloured horrible hog face instead of a pigrons and make it have those weird astral flames coming from its butt

[urban cloak]

id say sandstorms in their entirety are more memorable than a lot of the snow biome

[spice hound]

I guess but terraria itself does actually put a weird focus on pigrons, with the pigronata and duke fishron clearly being based partislly on them

[urban cloak]

true yea

[arctic cliff]

no, add a new variant of the pigron, like how fishrons are variants of pigrons

[urban cloak]

it is strange when you consider how easily most players will miss pigrons but ig its whatever

relogic loves their dragon pigs

[spice hound]

Wait hear me out make an astral pigron look deformed and have it have large fluffy parts that are actually the bodies of infecte flinxes, attactched to the astral pigron

[arctic cliff]

for some reason i want an insane cult of aliens who follow astral infected meteors and try to deliberately get infected by the astral infection to gain power???

i should just draw that tho

[arctic cliff]

hilarious

[spice hound]

The thing is it can only infect like non-sapient things or something

[arctic cliff]

ya

[spice hound]

It only goes after unintelligent things or like ones which lack like major thoughts or something i don’t fully recall what sapient means again

[hollow adder]

the way that item is phrased pretty strongly implies anything can be infected

just that sapient beings can resist it forever

[arctic cliff]

according to yharim

The infection itself is a disturbance from deep space. It has a mind of its own, projecting its will upon life and land.
Those whose minds can grasp the true form of the universe are largely immune.
They cannot be starstruck by a supposed higher truth, let alone one preached by a pustule.

[spice hound]

If so like a group of infected martians could be cool

[arctic cliff]

since yharim is the only source, and i genuinely dont see him needing to make up shit about the astral infection given yknow'

ya

[spice hound]

As a whole right now the astral biome does kind of feel like it does nothing important or interesting snd I really hope that will eventually get like Improved

[hollow adder]

i was thinking of aureus' lore

Sapient minds have enough willpower to resist the Infection's call indefinitely.
However… even the finest silicon is not beyond its reach. Draedon prefers his creations to serve after all.
With this experiment concluded, he will certainly be examining you next. Watch yourself.

bruh how do you make the quote

[arctic cliff]

well

you make a space between the > and your text

for instance

ya

[hollow adder]

yeah just looked it up online

[spice hound]

You could just copy their message and paste it to see how it was done

[hollow adder]

anyway, that line always made me think a person could willingly allow the infection

[arctic cliff]

not necessarily

[arctic cliff]

what you need to do is right-click, then select "Copy Text"

and then paste that to see how it works

[spice hound]

Thats what I did mean

[arctic cliff]

no but liek someone might select the text itself and then copypaste

[spice hound]

Anyways I sidethought why the hell doesn’t astral bricks have any of the unique colours of astral ore

[arctic cliff]

ya right

itd be better off without the ore

[spice hound]

The current astral bricks should be like astral stone bricks and make a new colourful brick for astral ore’s bricks

Maybe also give it a furniture set like 1.4.5 did to demonite, crimtane and hallowed

[hollow adder]

ngl the whole astral biome aesthetic feels a little random
i don't get why all the mobs and half the blocks use the aureus pallete

[spice hound]

Calamity biomes be like that sometimes

Its a horrible disease called… mono-pallete syndrome

[hollow adder]

like i feel that aureus should be a separate thing, since it's a robot

maybe 1 or 2 mobs with the same colors

[arctic cliff]

i think the more accurate thing is that aureus is using the same palette as everyone else

[spice hound]

Hes an infected robot but like giving him accents of like the colours from like the arsenal weapons would be cool

[hollow adder]

yeah but like, why don't those use the colors of the trees and dirt

[spice hound]

Also what is up with the orange flames on the astral enemies like they don’t have a fire debuff why is that a thing

And why does it come out of like all their butts

[arctic cliff]

reckon you could say its mana

[spice hound]

But mana is blue not orangey-red

It just feels like its there because the artist just felt like it with no explanation

Also I will say its so dumb that like none of the enemies use the pretty black colour in like astral monoliths since like they really could use it to give them more variety

But I do hope that when they redesign the astral stuff, doing stuff similar to the polaris parrotfish’ redesign in terms of colours would be great albeit probably a bit less extremee

[arctic cliff]

okay ya i'll admit the astral infection enemies are super monopalette with weird stuff

when i say mana, i mean the corrupted kind of mana

[spice hound]

Everything astral is monopallete except like astral monoliths black parts

Everything is gray, teal (?) and reddish orange

Also honestly most of the enemy designs are way too hard too really understand what the spritework is trying to convey

[hollow adder]

not really

[arctic cliff]

no i see what they mean

[spice hound]

I feel like understanding what like novas, stellar culexes and the sightseers are even meant to be

Like are the 4 spike-like things on a stellar cullex meant to be like mandibles and horns or like claws or what

[arctic cliff]

Atlas's head is so weirdly sprited that it looks more like its part of the big arm (Purple) rather than what it actually is, which is an elongated head (Green)

[orchid finch]

Giant two-legged grunt with a big arm

[spice hound]

Also looking on the page for hadarians look how stupid and baby they look when sitting why so squeeshed

[hollow adder]

i don't feel this one

[arctic cliff]

that looks WEIRD

[rare tinsel]

huggable babies!

[blazing field]

hello it's me cheese from cheese

[buoyant pulsar]

cal devs PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE add an upgrade to celestial cuffs or add them to ethereal talisman or something
cuffs r so much better than mana flower im begging

[dusk bronze]

Bug Tester

[spice hound]

Hi cheese 🪤

[hollow adder]

"Their pincers work not only as a weapon, but as a means of spreading the star further. By digging their claws into the ground, they are capable of infecting nearby caves with the help of their supercharged cores."

[blazing field]

did i miss astrum aureus design critique. i have my whole ass aureus design wall of text to send.

[dusk bronze]

just astral enemies in general

[urban cloak]

you're just in time actually

[blazing field]

give me a bit

wheres my aureus rant

[spice hound]

I meant like the design does not really make what they are clear at a first glance, like outside of beastiary thats was too hard to tell

[blazing field]

good visual design does not need you to read text to understand what its meant to be

[urban cloak]

i think culex is like

[hollow adder]

yeah true

[urban cloak]

a genus of mosquito

but stellar culex looks nothing like a mosquito so its like

[dusk bronze]

i built aureus in minecraft so i understand how the design works mechanically but it's still stupid as fuck

[urban cloak]

lol???

[hollow adder]

it's not clear what they're supposed to be

[spice hound]

But why is culex underground there isn’t any mosquitos it could’ve taken over

[dusk bronze]

dirt mosquitoes

mosquistone

[blazing field]

OK SO.

1. This thing is infected by astral, yet the astral infection bits on it, which, i assume are the more organicky-looking dark purple bits, look incredibly intentionally designed, if that makes sense. They're too symmetrical, neatly organized and rounded. They don't look like a infection taking over it, they look like they were a intentional part of the mech's design to the point if you try imagining the design without those parts it just looks... Bald, if i that makes sense. And that's like. a bad thing!!! If it's meant to be something that was not originally meant to look like this, and it's designed in a way where it looks wrong without the astral bits and right with them, that's like, the opposite of what it should be, if that amkes sense.
   2 The entire thing's shape language is just so... odd. It has like, two astral crystals growing on it, which alongsde it's (atleast to me) really unsatisfying shape language on its head makes it like. a weird crown? Which. why. why does it have a crown? What does that have to do with it. Why the crown.
2. The astral flames just, coming out of it. Again, they look far too intentionally designed, just as the little astral bits on it do. If astral flame was incorporated on Aureus's design it'd be so much better, imo, if it was like. Flames emerging from burnt/broken parts of it. A big issue with Aureus is that it just looks too tidy and neat for what's supposed to be a machine taken over by a alien infection against its own "will".

[arctic cliff]

eh i dont need cheese to rant i can just compare this sprite

[urban cloak]

unidentified infected bug thing

[arctic cliff]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1044692425018441769/1418070730117222410/boppin.gif

to this

[blazing field]

4. This is a issue partially due to just Astral Enemies in general, but Aureus isn't really identifiable as a robot to me. Atleast, not anymore than any other astral enemies. All of them have this exact same aesthethic going on, Aureus dosen't do much to stick out from them. It does look vaguely metallic in the non-infected bits, but that really isn't enough to tell me, "Yep, this is a robot", specially when all the other astral enemies have basically the same sort of look going on. Way more could be done with the texture, adding more visible mechanical segmentation, maybe circuitry and just overall more technological aesthethics in some way.
5. Despite being a recon drone, it hardly has any elements that would you make it recognize as one. Sure, this might be a bit nitpicky, but a good design, whether it's creature, character, or anything else, conveys a story without telling any words, through the design alone - Maybe have a little sample storage tank or something, little grabby arms, just. Something would be cool, y'know?

heres my rant

i will say this is a bit old and i feel like i might disagree with some points i made nowadays but its MOSTLY still accurate to my opinion

[spice hound]

But I feel like novas are especially weird since like what even is their body meant to be like why do they god three wimpy ass tentacles and like a weirdly long “eye” thing?

[blazing field]

2 is the main point i'd say i disagree with nowadays since i do think astrum aureus atleast has a fairly iconic silhouette and shape with its big stompy legs and are something i'd want to keep in a eventual redesign, specially wtih the boss stomping being a primary way it attacks you and is also referenced in its theme

but eveerything else i still stand by

[spice hound]

Also how the fuck is a sightseer meant to be an astral demon eye

[blazing field]

this design is a utter and compelte mess

[dusk bronze]

[urban cloak]

i could deadass never understand why this thing has flames

[blazing field]

it dosen't look like a robot anymore than literally any other astral enemy

it dosen't look infected anymore than literally any other astral enemy

or well

[spice hound]

Why does like half the astral creatures have flames

[blazing field]

more specifically id say alot of astral enemies look MORE infected than ti does

like atleast the atlas, per example

[urban cloak]

cause its cool and badass idk

[dusk bronze]

astral fire debuff when

[blazing field]

llook properly mutated and unnatural

the limbs are mishapen and disproportional to one another, the creature is seemingly falling over to its side

[spice hound]

Please no astral fire debuff make it like a idk cold debuff or something like frostburn please

[blazing field]

atlas isn't even the best of designs it still has alot of the same issues that plague like every astral enemy ever but this random ass enemy is a better design at conveying the whole infection aspect than this Huge Ass Boss is

[dusk bronze]

@wise bolt astral design discussions btw if ur awake

[wise bolt]

guhh

[blazing field]

just remove the fire its just that shrimple

[hollow adder]

i feel like the problem is all the enemies using the gray instead of the monolith colors
they all look shiny and metallic to a degree

[dusk bronze]

that's the joke

[spice hound]

True

[urban cloak]

damn he responded immediately

actually john astral

[blazing field]

Using the monoltih colors for all of them would also Not be good

[spice hound]

Albeit like are hadarian wings like made of the astral fire thing

[blazing field]

variety pleaseeee

[wise bolt]

ill be so for real with you ihave like no thoughts on astral designs rn outside of some basic bitch ass ideas lmfa

[dusk bronze]

it's orange membrane of some kind

[dusk bronze]

fair

[wise bolt]

though. i did have a thing

thts kind of it tho lol

[spice hound]

Honestly I wish the astral version of biomes tried to like take a slightly altered version of the main colour pallete to a noticeable degree, like maybe the astral desert is a lot more white-y

[blazing field]

i'll be so fr tofu i don't get what this is meant to be im sorry 😭

its kind of hard to read

[arctic cliff]

that is already a great start holy shit

[wise bolt]

infected person

[dusk bronze]

also fun fact
https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Hadarian_Membrane

[wise bolt]

also fair yeah it was a shit sketch so

[blazing field]

oh i see

[arctic cliff]

i can get the vibe that this would absolutely SUCK to undergo

[wise bolt]

its like a person kneeling bent backwards

[dusk bronze]

true

[blazing field]

i can understnad it better now yea

[wise bolt]

cuz their ribs kind of exploded

[dusk bronze]

nuclear terror type shi

[spice hound]

Calamity mod if it tried to match how vanilla does wings

[arctic cliff]

hell now im starting to jostle with ideas on astral ifnection

[blazing field]

yknow the more i think about it atlas is probably id say the most competent astral design

[arctic cliff]

now i just. gotta draw them

[blazing field]

i wouldn't say its particularly good but

[spice hound]

Also side thing it does feel a little odd that mantises are kind of mostly just named that to reference the mantises in hollow knight specifically

[blazing field]

credit where credit is due, it does have more identity than most other astral designs

[arctic cliff]

i mean

[hollow adder]

yo, dark souls 3 reference?

[blazing field]

and does look properly like a hulking mutant that is. what youd hope enemies infected by a starborne disease would look like

[dusk bronze]

it's not good

but it's the best

[arctic cliff]

i actually am gonna confess i really like atlas for some reason

[wise bolt]

ive never played dark souls lmaooo

[arctic cliff]

i just like that design of a mutated big guy with one spindly arm and a far bigger arm

[blazing field]

i do think atlas is one of those designs that could probably remain with the same base concept with a eventual astral redo

while alot of other designs i think would just be

shot and killed in a backalley in new york

[hollow adder]

that description just instantly reminded me of that enemy

[spice hound]

Also why are glommerlings like so rectangular like aren’t you like a conglomerate mass so shouldn’t you be very like not organised

[blazing field]

no stellar cullex youre not invited to the function

[wise bolt]

thats a scary ass enemy 🥹

[urban cloak]

yes stellar cullex the function is in that back alley

😊

[wise bolt]

the astral enemies are all weirdly endearing to me they look kinda dumb

[blazing field]

atlas redesign could lean further into it being a amalgamte of human/humanoids taken over by the infection maybe

tofu EVERYTHING about the astral is weirdly endearing to you

[wise bolt]

sniles

[spice hound]

Some of them are weirdly kinda cute but in like an ugly cute way

[urban cloak]

tofu what's your thoughts on astral probe

[dull heart]

I need to port my titan arm rework so bad

[wise bolt]

but i am thinking to have some emphasis on bones and skeletons in the astral enemies

[blazing field]

The big hulking man with one giant arm and one spindly one that feels like it's somewhat tumbling over to the side i think is a strong concept for a scary mutant

[wise bolt]

nothingburger and annoying as fuck but oddly cute

[blazing field]

Maybe if the redesign made it look more like

[wise bolt]

i prefer the hivelings tho

[urban cloak]

respectable

[blazing field]

multiple individuals stapled together to amke one big guy

that could be kool

[wise bolt]

or. the glommerlings sorry

[blazing field]

you knoww whats funny

for the notorious calamity roleplay, i just used a image of a marraige from fear nad hunger for the atlas

[wise bolt]

😭

[blazing field]

it has basically the same vibes as an atlas on my head except without the. astral part

[spice hound]

hadarians (mainly when sitting) and glommerlings are weirdly adorable to me idk why

[wise bolt]

YOU UNDERSTAND ME.

WEIRD LITTLE CREATURES

[blazing field]

its like an atlas with JUST the mutant hulking horror and not the space mutant hulking horror

[wise bolt]

why is your head so big.

[spice hound]

Why is the hadarian so scrunched when sitting like why

[wise bolt]

stupid ass

[urban cloak]

some of these creatures have like the same facial structure as well oddly enough

[blazing field]

alot of them do

[urban cloak]

flat ass face with big orange thing

[wise bolt]

ALL of the astral enemies have the same face

[dusk bronze]

schism ultrakill but more

[blazing field]

four blue eyes, two on each side, and a vertical slit for a mouth

[wise bolt]

minus the small ones

[blazing field]

YEAH basically yeah.

schism ultrakill if instead of a fodder ranged enemy it was a big slow tank guy

[spice hound]

Astral slime doesn’t checkmate liberal

[wise bolt]

kneads you into a dough

[blazing field]

i do also like the idea of the astral hive

as a enemy

[wise bolt]

cheese.

[blazing field]

just a hive of little shits amde of 59359359 creatures fused together

[wise bolt]

implement myfucking hiveroot heart into roy.

[blazing field]

it could make for some cool design

[spice hound]

[blazing field]

kills myself

[wise bolt]

or hearteoot hive i dont remember its name

[dusk bronze]

hiveheart root

[wise bolt]

my evil

[blazing field]

i think other than the atlas and the astral hive i dont feel anything about any of the other enemies

atlas i think is just one good redesign away from being an actually cool beast. hive is not cool but has a cool enough idea

the rest uhhhh idk

look at hte astral slime its a slime and.,

[spice hound]

Mantis kinda has aura as well but like 90% are kinda nothingburgers

[dusk bronze]

i feel something about the fusion feeder

no idea what but it's something

[wise bolt]

mantis & fusion feeder

astralachnea is funny

[spice hound]

Hadarians are like kinda cute when sitting but other than that are just there

[blazing field]

i thin kif the astral enemies had more of a identity in that you could recognize them as horribly mutated version of rgular enemies or creatures thatd be so much cooler tahn their current nothingburger slop demons

[wise bolt]

i habe this vid of the astral spider i need you to see it

[dusk bronze]

[blazing field]

wow an astral demon eye

look inside

no way to tell its a demon eye until you look at the bestiary

[spice hound]

Wait hear me out make astral slimes all maformed into like the shape of like a fallen star and make them like release small astral stars from their points

[dusk bronze]

> demon eye
> look inside
> eater of souls

[urban cloak]

is sightseer the demon eye

[spice hound]

Hey its name includes the word sight so it is actually very well told

[urban cloak]

spiritually it is an eater of souls to me yea

[blazing field]

talkign about eater of souls are you ugys ever renaming ice claspers

i remember the tobias ice calsper design. big fan of it.

[dusk bronze]

bro tweaking

[wise bolt]

my favorite clip

[urban cloak]

not even sure if we're implementing that ngl

[wise bolt]

please turn the sound on

[urban cloak]

but hey if we do a rename could be considered

[dusk bronze]

boowomp

[blazing field]

i hope it gets resprited/rdesigned eventually if atleast not that design

because i mean. ice enemies r just ame. most calamity enemies r lame rigth now

but

[spice hound]

Wait hear me out make one of the enemies there into a worm enemy, but have the head have the ai of like a more traditional enemy and the tail just follows it

[blazing field]

ice clasper specifically really could use a rename lol

[dusk bronze]

why

[urban cloak]

its a bit of a boring name tbf

[blazing field]

sigh. here it goes again.

[dusk bronze]

true

[blazing field]

so ice clasper as a name

means basically ice shark penis

[urban cloak]

well.

[spice hound]

Fire name

[dusk bronze]

have you never heard of clasping your hands together

[blazing field]

"clasper" is a real word that refers to shark genitalia

[spice hound]

🔥

[blazing field]

but whoever named that thought of like. we'll its like clasping. the clasper

[wise bolt]

clasper to me does not invoke the mental image or thought of clasper as in. shark penis like at all i just think ohh it grabs things

[blazing field]

and didn't know it actually means Shark Penis

[dusk bronze]

yeah same

[urban cloak]

yeah realistically most people aren't going to think of it like that

[spice hound]

What even is an ice clasper meant to be

[urban cloak]

BUT

[blazing field]

also it's not like it even grabs anything ingame it just shoots ice balls at you

[dusk bronze]

the one who clasps

[urban cloak]

still a kinda boring name

[wise bolt]

because why are you thinkging of sahrk penis

😭

[spice hound]

Just an ice biome crimera/eater of souks

[urban cloak]

probably idk

calamity enemy economy is confusing and sad

[blazing field]

see that's the thing if you DON'T know it means shark penis it dosen't come to mind but the moment you find out you cant get rid of the knoweldge

everytime ive seen that thing since i thought of ice shark penis

[wise bolt]

dude even now i dont think about it

[dusk bronze]

i knew that previously and never thought about it

[orchid finch]

Is it the Bobbit Worm situation all over again

[wise bolt]

i think its just uoy

[blazing field]

fuck you die die die die

[spice hound]

But thats kinda funny honestly and like it isn’t actually named after that so its fine

[blazing field]

eats you

[wise bolt]

?secretes poison

[spice hound]

Like maybe ice grasper could be better but its uneeded

[blazing field]

dissolves

AND IT STILL DOSENT EEN GRASP ANYTHING

[wise bolt]

LOOOOOLLL

[blazing field]

me shooting my 3 ice ball projectiles at yotu and then ramming forward

[dusk bronze]

it grasps the true nature of reality

[blazing field]

i cant wait for calamity enemies to be good in 43 hours and 12 minutes

specifically

[wise bolt]

if ur saying yea rename it cause it doesnt actually do what its name saysthen yeah fair LMFAO

[blazing field]

thas when all calamity enemies will be good

[spice hound]

Its grasping its ice clasper 🔥

[hollow adder]

it should grab you wof style if the ram lands

[urban cloak]

damn guess i gotta lock in if i got 43 hours

[blazing field]

fryzahh quick code the newest enemy the greedy grinner

spawns on goblin army post ml

[wise bolt]

i cant lock in i have to go see my psychiatrist

[orchid finch]

Well you know it's still better than that one Russian translation that's literally "Ice Tick"

[wise bolt]

heres a bird

[spice hound]

meep :3

[blazing field]

bird

[dusk bronze]

fat chud

[wise bolt]

turns you into a grub

[dusk bronze]

how joyous

[wise bolt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1328049447904481333/1501075146268737656/IMG_0101.gif

[urban cloak]

real talk i really wonder if we should give events like goblin army post-ml content

[orchid finch]

If I were you I wouldn't be joyous

[spice hound]

The bubby grubby

[wise bolt]

unenlightened

[orchid finch]

The "fat chud" is now after you

[wise bolt]

smh

[dusk bronze]

make goblin warlock 7% faster

[urban cloak]

death mode does that already

[blazing field]

Tbf i think it's okay for some events to not get much content after a certain point

[spice hound]

Make goblin archer arrows home and go through blocks

[blazing field]

like goblin army gets warlock in early hm and thats kinda it

[orchid finch]

Would you really risk your life and being eaten by birds just to become a grub?

[blazing field]

on the other hadn i do think it would be cool for some of them to get some new stuff

like blood moon is a obvious one i think

[dull heart]

goblin battle mech post ml

[dusk bronze]

true

[blazing field]

giving blood moon ravager-related content in post ml is like

[urban cloak]

blood moon for sure

[barren nacelle]

Stumpknocker

[blazing field]

the most obvious development ever

[urban cloak]

YEAAHHHH

[dull heart]

I think goblins, blood moon, eclipse make sense to scale

[spice hound]

Maybe also like post-moon lord eclipse stuff but idk

[dull heart]

Bc all of those scale in vanilla

[blazing field]

i think u might be true

[barren nacelle]

Pml pirates

[dusk bronze]

rip martians

[dull heart]

Especially eclipse, it scales in like 3 different tiers

[graceful crystal]

goblins start destroying the terrain post moon lord but specifically only hellstone

[spice hound]

Also ooa but cal aint gonna touch that

[dusk bronze]

blunderbeard miniboss

[barren nacelle]

Martians don't really have room to scale in Vanilla, I could see them getting pml stuff

[dull heart]

frost legion post dog when

[spice hound]

[dull heart]

I don't think they really make sense to have more stuff tbh

[barren nacelle]

TRUEEEE

[dull heart]

Eclipse, Blood Moon very much do

[barren nacelle]

Martian Saucerer

[spice hound]

When they adding post-moon lord blizzard content smh

[barren nacelle]

You ever think of that one, liberal?

[blazing field]

blunderbeard shows up during post moon lord martian invasion and everytime you try attacking him some series of extremely low probability events make him dodge the attack

[dull heart]

Goblins doesn't really need it but like a goblin mech would be cool and goblins have a reason to be expanding their power over the course of the game

[arctic cliff]

we killed the super alien (even if he's technically more interdimensional than extraterrestrial) i think tis fine

[urban cloak]

martians i can kinda imagine from a story standpoint cause some crazy fucking shit just happened with the moon but in gameplay you fight them not long before you start the lunar events so buffing them immediately after would be a lil strange

[barren nacelle]

Butterflies spawn directly in front of the Martian Saucer's rockets every time they would hit blunderbeard

[dull heart]

they're also Martians not Moon-ians

[dusk bronze]

it could be like
post prov or something

[dull heart]

like nothing we do is gonna be changing stuff on Mars

does Mars even exist idek

[dusk bronze]

yeah

[spice hound]

Let us go to the remains of. mars post-moon lord itd be fire

[barren nacelle]

Redspotted Sunfish

[dusk bronze]

🐟

[dull heart]

The Marstorion

[arctic cliff]

honestly i think this is prime material to add new events

[blazing field]

i can see something like, all this time youve been progressing the goblins have been upgrading their gadgets to become better at Pillaging and then by post ml they have used scraps of arsenal stuff to make mechs and guns or something

[urban cloak]

i mean yeah but they'd probably pick up on it considering they are sending drones to terraria

[blazing field]

itd be really funny

arsenal mech goblins

[dusk bronze]

yharmy tomorrow

[dull heart]

but yeah I think Martians and Pirates should be a one off

[arctic cliff]

hard mode doesnt just buff existing events, it also adds new ones

[blazing field]

plus yeah goblins having mechs and knicknacks and gdagets

[arctic cliff]

logically, post moon lord should do sometihng similar

[blazing field]

is a very common goblin fantasy stereotype

so it would make sense

[dull heart]

Blood Moon and Eclipse should absolutely get more stuff, maybe goblins

[spice hound]

What if… we made it so the acid rain got buffed post moon lord

[barren nacelle]

Redear Sunfish, Shellcracker, Georgia Bream, Cherry Gill, Chinquapin, Stumpknocker, Sun Perch

[blazing field]

yharmy event is definitely happening at some point i think

like its the most obvious event idea to ever event idea for calamity mod

[dull heart]

And then post ML should have at least one or two entirely new events

[dusk bronze]

give them the chainsaw tank thing from skylanders

[dull heart]

give them chainsaw man

[spice hound]

But like rain/blizzard and sandstorm also kinda get hardmode expansions and like maybe a new mob each could be neat

[blazing field]

genuinely the idea goblins have just been making wacky shit with scraps of arsenal gear in the back and then finally use them in post ml is very funny

[dull heart]

give them the Dungeon Defenders goblin mech boss so they also become OOA t4

[blazing field]

i think that ties into just

needing biomes to have more post m lcontent overall

like a few new enemies and such

rather than events

specifically

[dull heart]

this guy

[barren nacelle]

Sword hands

[spice hound]

Icier golemer and the actual earth elemental

[dusk bronze]

goblin warlock gets her ass beat and then pulls up 2 years later with an orbital strike cannon

[arctic cliff]

goblin technomancer

WAIT

i have the stupidest idea ever

horrible

[urban cloak]

spirit has that claimed already sadly

[arctic cliff]

absolutely horrible

[spice hound]

Thats from spirit classic isn’t it

[barren nacelle]

Some kinda Mechromancer

[spice hound]

Like a hog

[dull heart]

Horrible Hognomancer

[arctic cliff]

yes... quinn...

[barren nacelle]

Pumpkinseed

[arctic cliff]

Goblin Technoblade. 😭

[spice hound]

🔥 🔥 🔥

But probably a bit insensitive so probably not

[dusk bronze]

the collectibles in ninjago season 3 were called techno blades fun fact

[blazing field]

but yeah i think the two msot obvious calamity event ideas ever

[spice hound]

Hear me out torch god post-dog rematch when

[blazing field]

are a new post ml yharmy event and giving the blood moon new ravager-related content in post ml

[dull heart]

so true

[blazing field]

like have some freaky ass ravager cultists jump your ass during it

[dull heart]

DoG vs Torch God animation when

[blazing field]

maybe the items they drop could be tied into how you summon ravager/grant access to the cathedral or whatever

[spice hound]

Torch god neg-diffs dog no challenge

[blazing field]

or maybe materials that can be used with materials from the cathedraal to make new gear. i dont know!

[dull heart]

I think it's far more likely that defeating ravager empowers the blood moon

[barren nacelle]

Wasn't there like scrapped Lihzahard Ravager Cultists

[blazing field]

That's also true

[arctic cliff]

how

[blazing field]

But that would amke the blood moon upgrade rather lategame

[spice hound]

Whens the evil storm post-moon lord event where storm weaver decides to fuck up the global weather

[arctic cliff]

but i think it just feels more right to make blood moon buff pre-ravager

[barren nacelle]

Throudon weaver when

[blazing field]

I don't think it needs to literally empower the blood moon since yeah i feel like lorewise that'd be weird but it could be a thing where

[spice hound]

Windier day

[dull heart]

it'd be somewhere post provi pre dog

[blazing field]

Defeating ravager maeks it remaining cultists scatter

[wise laurel]

Theycall me sonic

[blazing field]

and they start jumping you during the blood moon

personally i would rather it be

immediately post ml though

[barren nacelle]

That or they panic and team up and try to mob you using the magic of the blood moon

[blazing field]

similarly to how blood moon just, upgrades in hardmode

itd be consistent, and give you some event content right off the bat

[dull heart]

well let's just say that cultists in the blood moon will make very little sense most likely

[barren nacelle]

Well that's because they released the clown it has nothing to do with WoF

[spice hound]

New fishable blood moon enemies would be fire

[barren nacelle]

They let him free

[dusk bronze]

[spice hound]

Blood kraken mini-boss

[barren nacelle]

He was the one who made the hardmode bloodmoon fish

[blazing field]

also true let us fish the fucking gore whale post ml

[spice hound]

Turn those dumb ass gorecodile grab bags into a raw as hell as blood gator enemy

[blazing field]

storm weaver actually affecting the weather would be so wholesome

[barren nacelle]

https://klipy.com/gifs/ishmael-sailor--k01KR2YTFM2VTC369FFGQFTQYRS

[blazing field]

wait holy true gorecodileas a post ml enemy would go hard as fuck

[urban cloak]

xerocodile returns as a miniboss

crazy comeback

[barren nacelle]

500 more crocodiles

[dull heart]

there's some cool stuff that's been cooking regarding cathedral and ravager and the likes and I do think a blood moon empowerment from it would probably make sense

Post ML if anything was added I'd say fishing enemies

[spice hound]

Sandstomer, evil rain, windiest day, cold blizard and superstorm

[barren nacelle]

Longeared Sunfish

[blazing field]

WE HAVE TO KILL THE WHALE

[dull heart]

But like, we'll see what happens

[blazing field]

no fr though gorecodile as post ml blood fishing enemy. soooo awesome. sooo cool

[spice hound]

Add a new bloody sea pig creature

[barren nacelle]

Add me to the team I'll add Bloody Sunfish

[spice hound]

Also blood duke fishron 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥

[barren nacelle]

Prehardmode critter bloody sunfish

[dull heart]

Add me to the team I'll make bosses good

[blazing field]

Add me to the team i'll cry

for your amusement

[barren nacelle]

Northern Sunfish (with a jig in his mouth fsr)

[urban cloak]

id personally prefer blood moon in general to be buffed after moon lord as opposed to ravager since i would like to capture that feeling of the world shifting majorly again like when you enter hardmode + acid rain tier 3 is not far away from there

[spice hound]

Add me to the team I’d do nothing at all

[arctic cliff]

add me to the team i'll make sure we'll get rhyolite erupting volcanoes in calamity

[urban cloak]

plus you'd expect most of the moon stuff to be after the boss named The Moon Lord

[spice hound]

You could like have like it be buffed twice after moon lord and ravager but idk

[blazing field]

i think doze's idea does work well but i'd also add like, atleast one new regular enemy besides the fishing guys

[spice hound]

Say that to the seasonal moons

[dull heart]

Okay but counterpoint, you'd expect the blood stuff to be after the boss that's the literal god of blood

[blazing field]

there is a precedent for ultiple buffs in one stage of progression yeah

[urban cloak]

if its more than just the fishing i can vibe with that

[blazing field]

soalr eclipse

[barren nacelle]

Dollar Sunfish

[blazing field]

genuinely yeah i think just having two buffs would make sense

[barren nacelle]

Oddly enough wikipedia has a really bad image for this guy

[blazing field]

one immediately post ml with like one or two new normal enemies unrealed to rav or anything, and new fishing guys

[dull heart]

(keep in mind, hardmode blood moon adds 0 non fishing enemies)

[blazing field]

and another post-ravager with evil ghouls

[spice hound]

What if ravager actually unlocked the blood solar eclipse

[urban cloak]

clown

[barren nacelle]

Clown

FUCK

[misty wren]

clown isnt a fishing enemy

[lean relic]

You forgot the Clown!!!!!

[dull heart]

I forgot clown exists

[barren nacelle]

Fryzahh when I get you Fryzahh

[dull heart]

Because I've seen it literally twice in all my time playing terraria

[blazing field]

remember triangle's sanguineqsuito idea lol

[urban cloak]

chat snail this user

[blazing field]

sanguinesquito

is that still real

[spice hound]

Chattering teeth bombs

[barren nacelle]

I said it already I just responded to cheese I'm a FOOL

[barren nacelle]

What am I looking at man

[spice hound]

Fish

[misty wren]

i didnt read the non. i was trying to say something clever but im fuckign illiterate

[dull heart]

that's just clown

which isn't real so it's not real either

[spice hound]

Uhhh blood squids aren’t fished up as well

[urban cloak]

also we don't really have to follow this strictly in general

[dull heart]

yeah I know lol

[blazing field]

new post ml blood moon enemy. bloodier zombie. its a blood zombie but even bloodier

[urban cloak]

especially cause post-ml is kind of our own territory

we can afford to get wacky and zany and crazy with it

[misty wren]

bloodiest zombie its blood zombie but scaled up 1.5x

[blazing field]

hey does hogwild have any new post ml content

does post ml get any meal scraps next update or does it have to wait more still

[dull heart]

ultimately though I don't think the world changing post ml can nor should use hardmode as a blueprint

[spice hound]

A new version of a drippler called “drippler, yet drippler “

[urban cloak]

i dont think so???

[dull heart]

We can't exactly go spawning two more biomes

[blazing field]

its starving

its starving so bad

[barren nacelle]

Redbreast Sunfish

[misty wren]

no its dripplest

[spice hound]

Thats what people expect so we through a curveball

[blazing field]

https://tenor.com/view/bob-bob-the-slime-monsters-vs-aliens-blue-slime-food-gif-6946248354645973913

[urban cloak]

ill move shockstorm shuttle soon cheese dw

[dull heart]

there's changes to existing content but I can't think of new stuff

[blazing field]

dont worry little post moon lord game stage. we have more weapons and bosses to feed you for a whole year

[misty wren]

no just kill shockstorm shuttle

[blazing field]

why

me when i remove a enemy from a mod that already lacks in enemy content for no reason

[spice hound]

But hear me out post moon lord blood moon duke bloodron

[urban cloak]

my heart was shifted and i now wish to alter it

2023 fryzahh would've killed it in a heartbeat

[misty wren]

the cog agenda must be spread .

[urban cloak]

2026 fryzahh is a new man

[blazing field]

it also is a easier source of martian conduit plating

which is actually really good for builders

[spice hound]

You’ve found the ways of nuturing and caring ❤️ ❤️ 🛸

[blazing field]

i do not wish to have to do a whole ass new martian madness becasue i missed 1 block from my build

[dull heart]

shockstorm shuttle should clearly spawn post ml Martians like Martian probe

[misty wren]

wtf they killed fryzahh and replaced him with a doppleganger

[spice hound]

Martian madness 2 where they’re all 12.7% purpler

[urban cloak]

no its just that coding npcs is like really fun lol

[blazing field]

oh are you actually rewrorking shockstorm shuttle while you're at it

[barren nacelle]

Green Sunfish. I don't like him.

[spice hound]

Ermm thats not green

[urban cloak]

yeah i might

[blazing field]

oh cool

[urban cloak]

ive had some stray ideas for it

[spice hound]

Wait now that I think about it is exo mechs kind of an event if you really think about it

[dull heart]

I don't love working on NPCs because it feels quite difficult to me to make something work how I want it to

[blazing field]

i think removing any enemies from this mod right now would be sad and tragic unless it's enemy removals that come with big reworks to an biome (ala sso, that would add a bunch of new enemies to it anyways) or they're enemies that are actually detrimental which is extremely rare for this mod

an exception is like

some of hte ocean enemies

[dull heart]

This is why Overloaded Soldier should live

[spice hound]

Overloaded soldier is a weird guy

[barren nacelle]

Overloaded Soldier can live if you can make him make sense

[blazing field]

ocean is a rather small biome and calamity adding like four new pre hm ocean enemies makes it feel, i dare say, enemy bloated

[spice hound]

Why did you kill his pet rock guy that was like him

[barren nacelle]

Put him in the Dungeon

[dull heart]

He makes sense

[barren nacelle]

The ghost beetle

[dull heart]

You just don't understand it smh

[urban cloak]

remind me what overloaded soldier is again

[spice hound]

Guards send him to the dungeon

[blazing field]

Moving overloaded soldier to a post ml dungeon enemy could work as a bandaid fix i think

[dull heart]

Underground enemy that drops phantoplasm

[blazing field]

i mean

it literally has

[spice hound]

Phantoplasm dropping skeleton outside the dungeon

[blazing field]

phantoplasm in its sprite

[urban cloak]

right.

[urban cloak]

why is it not in the dungeon.

[dull heart]

not all ghosts are in the dungeon...

[barren nacelle]

Skeleton AI but it gets faster the closier it is to you

[lean relic]

I still dont know lore about this guy

[blazing field]

I think it's a shitty enemy that's due for a rework eventually but removing it when it's one of the only post ml enemies that exist would be like

the greatest crime ever

[spice hound]

bring back his pet rock I beg so he can have a fren

[barren nacelle]

"A body given life again, overflowing with the souls of warriors that perished during the Crusade who were unable to find peace. Their ravenous hunger for battle has been reignited due to sensing godly essences in the land once more."

[blazing field]

theres no lore its a random bum ass enemy

[dull heart]

Also the dungeon doesn't even have any keeper or anything now that skeletron is dead maybe bro just left to go find a job

[blazing field]

see

there is no lore

[barren nacelle]

Overloaded soldier isn't pml

[blazing field]

MAKE IT PML

[spice hound]

But also phantoplasm for some reason being outside the dungeon is odd

[blazing field]

IT HAS PHANTOPLASM ON IT

[barren nacelle]

It spawns immediately in hardmode

[spice hound]

Hes also like really really rare right

[raw falcon]

isnt this literally just a fighter ai

[blazing field]

WHY WOULD A ENEMY WITH PHANTOPLASM ON ITS SPRITE NOT BE POST ML.MURDER MURDER MURDER

[misty wren]

genuinely

[dull heart]

what if it's not phantoplasm

[spice hound]

I’ve like never actually encountered him Iirc

[barren nacelle]

No it has a weird speed boost dash style thing

[dull heart]

what if it just really likes kool aid

[blazing field]

move him to the dungeon and make him post ml

[misty wren]

i have never seen an overloaded soldier since 1.5

[urban cloak]

wait is it actually

[barren nacelle]

Yeah what if it's Calamity GooTM

[misty wren]

yeah no it spawns immediately in hardmode

[spice hound]

It doesn’t drop phantoplasm premoonlord but for some reaosn spawns

[barren nacelle]

.

[urban cloak]

🥹

[dull heart]

overloaded soldier should be post ml locked I agree

[raw falcon]

yeah its just hardmode

[blazing field]

later when there are actual assets and time to put into coding enemies he can be redone or shot and killed to be replaced by actually cool post ml dungeon enemies or something

but for now just move him there

[barren nacelle]

What a wiki page

[misty wren]

it also drops necroplasm

[dull heart]

no he's chill stop locking him up

[spice hound]

There should be more post-moon lord dungeon content especially

[blazing field]

we're starving feed us we are the post ml enemylings

[dull heart]

let him go move out

[blazing field]

i feel like polkterghast rework should/would come with a post ml dungeon rework

[spice hound]

No he needs to stay at home with his parents

[blazing field]

i can see alot of post ml boss fights coming with additions to the post ml biomes

gardually

actually giving

[misty wren]

the issue is that like in this case genuinely i dont think it would matter

[blazing field]

post moon lord actual godamn content

😭

storm weaver with sky, evil2 with evil biomes, provi with underworld, polter with dungeon, etc

[barren nacelle]

You know what I think would be great

If Dynamic Pursuer

[spice hound]

Post moon lord is like if the “calamity is a boss rush” sentiment was actually true

[barren nacelle]

Was a Disk

[dusk bronze]

that fucking boomerang that i hate

[blazing field]

sentiment was actually true

i mean id say it kind of is to some extent

[raw falcon]

why have we been calling it phantoplasm

[barren nacelle]

It's Phantoplasm idgaf if it's "Necroplasm" now

It's Phantoplasm

[spice hound]

Calamity prehardmode to pre-golem is definitely not a boss rush

[blazing field]

calamity definitely prioritized difficulty and boss content for a very long while

ofc thats changing now but yeah

[urban cloak]

well it is true it just ramps up over time

[misty wren]

because it uses basic ass fighter ai so you wouldnt even really be able to tell its there, much like the pink ghost fucks that spawn there you just dont ever notice them because they act like everything else there and dont do anything unique

[blazing field]

^

[spice hound]

Make overloaded soldier cool and give it a cool as gun

[blazing field]

its not to the same extreme extent it is in post ml but its definitely there

[spice hound]

Make it like those bone guys with guns in there

Its a soldier afterall

[urban cloak]

its definitely gotten better now that we've started cracking down on features that basically existed to speed up how fast you can get to fighting bosses but its also still true

[barren nacelle]

Just make it a polterghast skeleton atp please pleasseee

[raw falcon]

overloaded soldier is literally just the red cultist guys again tbh

[blazing field]

are there anymore changes in hogwild that undo calamity bullshittery where it changes how vanilla works for no reason

[lean relic]

Theres an enemy that always appear when we have this post moonlord enemy conversation

scorn eater

[blazing field]

i dont even think theres many of those left in calmaity right now but i think there's still a few

[raw falcon]

absolutely boring ass enemies

[spice hound]

Wait hear me out this is gonna sound crazy but imagine if like the ghosts and remains of removed enemies where added to the dungeon

[misty wren]

unholy serpent

[barren nacelle]

Bantam Sunfish

[urban cloak]

angery flame apparition

[spice hound]

Cosmic elemental ghost

[blazing field]

i think triangle wanted to bring back unholy serpent in some form as part of the profaned rework

[misty wren]

sorry ungodly serpent

[blazing field]

as like

[spice hound]

Astraghouldon slime

[blazing field]

something to do with dragon of flame iirc

snce thats the guy provi & her guardians killed

[misty wren]

my stupid chud son i hate -providence probably

[blazing field]

but idrm. dont quote me on that

dont shoot the messenger

[spice hound]

Ancient doomsayer dungeon miniboss

Ghoulfrum slime

[misty wren]

theres a surprisingly small number of removed cal enemies/npcs

[spice hound]

Phantom debris
Bloodletting servent carcass
Paraspectre

[barren nacelle]

Warmouth

[spice hound]

It is odd how it includes astrageldon but not siren or bumblebirb

[dusk bronze]

theres a surprisingly small amount of removed cal enemies/npcs

[blazing field]

also funny how it includes armored servant

[misty wren]

this is because those werent removed

[blazing field]

even though by all means its the same sa dragonfolly or siren

it just turned into

burrower .

[spice hound]

Astrageldon became aureus though

[barren nacelle]

Yeah that wasn't my call

Bumblebirb should deffo be in there

[blazing field]

my beloathed

[spice hound]

do bumblebirb and siren even have their own pages

[urban cloak]

asttrageldon was pretty much dismantled and rebuilt entirely in one go
siren and bumblebirb had a more gradual iteration process to my knowledge

[barren nacelle]

Siren idk just cuz that feels more like a rename / resprite than full redesign

[misty wren]

im pretty sure it has to do with internal stuff ? like internally folly and bumblefuck were the same thing when bumblefuck became folly

[spice hound]

Rip sand tortoise you’ll idk maybe be like remembered like a couple times a year

[blazing field]

did you know that when i first joined reign of yharim one of the first things i immediately got the dev team to do was scrap the wulfrum sime that was planned for it

you're welcome

[dusk bronze]

🔥

[urban cloak]

thanks

[spice hound]

Fuck that stupid chud slime

[blazing field]

this was even before most of the major changes like turning it into a metroidvania or conceiving The Subject as an actual character over Jacob Bryson

nope. first thing. kill wulfrum slime

priorities, people

[spice hound]

Add a wulfrum aureus like what happened to astrageldon

[blazing field]

i mean our gyrator design does have four legs so its kinda aureus like

i suppose

[misty wren]

ok yeah this is why they arent listed as separate things

[blazing field]

its a little four legged guy. and then it curls up those four legs and becomes a ball

[spice hound]

They really should get there own pages imo since like they did differentiate themselves enough ino

[blazing field]

man i wish wulfrums were real. so sad theyre not rael enemies in calamity mod and just a figment of my imagination

[spice hound]

Also rip to emerald jewel, sapphire jewel and bloodletting servant I hope you 3 rot in hell for your sins against fun

[blazing field]

ghoulish fabsolian amalgamations of hatred and sin

[spice hound]

Honestly some removed enemies genuinely do have like cool potential for like remakes of them or something

[blazing field]

triagnle basically did that with some of em

sun bat, parasea both got reborn as lotus flowers

[barren nacelle]

Bluegill (Bream, Brim, Sunny, Copper Nose) and Northern / Coppernose subspecies (contentious)

[blazing field]

and iirc he mentioned also wanting to do a mata mata as a sand tortoise reimagination and a unholy serpent thing

[spice hound]

Also why the fuck was the astral head a bird head

[misty wren]

meteor head

[spice hound]

Can the cosmic elemental get reborn as a lotus flower

[misty wren]

no

[spice hound]

Or turn it into like a sword or somehting

[misty wren]

keep it dead

do not make sword elemental real we dont need it

[spice hound]

We do though

[blazing field]

enemy whose purpose is only to drop these random swords for no reason god bless america

[spice hound]

Cool as cosmic sword guy whos maybe a little sentient

[barren nacelle]

Bluegills are goated. 1.8% salinity tolerance for a non brackish fish is crazy

[spice hound]

Better than like most of the removed enemies reason for existinf

[blazing field]

if cosmic elemental were to be reborn as a lotus flower i dont think it should keep the sword thing at all

[misty wren]

not even commonly btw

[urban cloak]

im imagining a sentient enchanetd sword enemy that has a chance to spawn when you break an enchanted sword shrine

why the FUCK does it drop BONE SWORD

[barren nacelle]

And the last of Lepomis, the Orangespotted Sunfish

[blazing field]

see that would be funny

[spice hound]

It has bones duh

[blazing field]

as long as it still drops the enchanted sword at a 100% chance or something

[spice hound]

Mana is stored there so it must have them

[blazing field]

maybe terragrim at 50% instead

actually

that would be really fun

75%| chance to drop enchanted sword, 25% to drop terragrim

it both acts as a little troll emoji for the player BUT its also NOT just a middle finger

since it ultimately increases your chance of getting the terragrim

and evne if you dont, youre still guaranteed to get the enchanted sword

[spice hound]

Also a 0.1% chance to drop bone sword still

[blazing field]

so youre literally not losing out on anything

youre just getting trolled

[spice hound]

Also make it so if it despawns like the sword will go back into the stone

[blazing field]

and unless you skill isuse and die to it you're actually benefitting due to the increased terragrim chances

[spice hound]

So you don’t permanently loose it