calamity-update-talk

[spice hound]

Oh wait is asgardian aegis like the strongest one

[hollow adder]

yes

[spice hound]

But also why did the movement dash accessory have a ton of debuff immunities instead of like an actually a defensive focused accessory

[blazing field]

i think the plan is to have a post ml ankh upgrade that actually focus on being defensive eventually rather than just

having one big do everything fuck you acc

trying to decentralize progression and just give the player more build diversity and all that

dont quote me on that tho but it's what i remember

[spice hound]

That would be a lot more logical for a gameplay standpoint

[hollow harness]

accs that have a lot of random stuff glued to them is a product of an era where accs were designed like that sadly

[hollow adder]

amalgam is like that ngl
the debuffs come out of nowhere

[spice hound]

Its from its materials but is a little odd

[hollow harness]

like if you look at other mods at the time of asgard valor introduction other mods had similar items, one example that comes to mind are thorium very late-game accs (the rainbow material ones)

[spice hound]

Like the different random ingredients each correlate to one of the debuffs it applies

[hollow adder]

yeah but none of them do that

[hollow harness]

it also has the 200% buff thingy which is uh

I wish it had been put into a buff duration/permanence after death upgrade

[hollow adder]

wdym

[distant raft]

eh sometimes you dont want it

[hollow harness]

remove it and add an alchemy flask upgrade 🚎

[cinder mural]

It's a possibility

It still bothers me a lot XD

[frail owl]

https://youtu.be/6zbsUtQL4nY?si=v6PkKb6iZfm_GQHl hog video

[tribal isle]

ur funny

man

[cinder mural]

Since i can no longer unsee the hearts are off centered

[frail owl]

hi there napoleon

[hard copper]

calami tea cup pig

[fierce nebula]

🐖

[main estuary]

does the horrible hog drop disgusting meat

[cinder mural]

i'on think so

[copper hinge]

this is so funny out of context

[high scaffold]

Idk, it could

[cinder mural]

i think there should be a better way at getting scorched bones

[cerulean remnant]

are they gonna nerf the moonshine

[grave geyser]

meh

in the current state of the mod moonshine isnt rlly all that good

[dull heart]

it's like exactly where it should be

[grave geyser]

like its not bad either but

yeah

[dull heart]

It's niche for specific setups

it's possible the honey dew changes might make it goated though

[grave geyser]

cant wait for hyperoptimized regenerator oneshot setups to be even funnier

[main estuary]

top 10 glass cannon builds of the century

[boreal pewter]

I forget if regenerator takes into account natural regen, but if it doesn't that would probably be a good buff to counteract all the other life regen nerfs going around

[grave geyser]

it does take into account natural regen

it actually accelerates natural regen by like 400% which just isnt listed on the tooltip lol

its actually a bit of an annoying balancing aspect about the item bc atm raw regen is basically never worth investing into

[amber egret]

whats the diff between raw regen and regen

[grave geyser]

raw regen is stuff like band of regen and regeneration potion

[amber egret]

+1 hp/s

[grave geyser]

natural regen is similar but is well, innate, but can be amplified

[amber egret]

i thought raw regen was why facetanking was so incredible

[grave geyser]

where the amount of natural regen you get is based on how long you go without taking damage and your max health

[grave geyser]

eh

facetanking is strong atm because nothing exists to punish it

[amber egret]

max health damage !!!!!!!!!!

[grave geyser]

raw regen is very rarely worth in a facetank over defense

[amber egret]

doesnt cal punish def

[grave geyser]

no

because defense damage doesnt fucking exist on most things

which is why facetanking is so strong right now

[amber egret]

ah

imagine an acc that reduces your damage if you get hit instead of your def

thatd be funny

damage damage

buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo

[amber egret]

watching a yardis video: is the death valley duster line meant to not work with chaos stone

[tropic jolt]

will john pork be in hog wild

[lean relic]

Not again

@rare tinsel 💥

[thorn pier]

i just dmed kai cenat and lost all my money

[dusk bronze]

tragic

[lean relic]

NOT AGAIN

[main estuary]

how bro 😭

[opaque plume]

kai cenat promised to double my money but he gave it to the next person

[tropic jolt]

doubled it too much the economy crashed

[halcyon seal]

Why do mods keep banning all the nice people giving out money

[dull heart]

no, it's a very odd bug

and i have no idea how it happens

[amber egret]

does chaos stone change how the mana bar works to remove the concept of it being full

[dull heart]

it changes how CheckMana() runs

but like

that's not being hit by the DVD line for the max mana check

[amber egret]

the what line

[dull heart]

death valley duster

[amber egret]

oh lmao

what does the dvd line do to check for full mana

[sudden cairn]

because theyre secretly evil

[dull heart]

iirc it's statMana >= statManaMax2

Which is correct

And chaos stone doesn't touch

[amber egret]

i mean chaos stone does modify the bar

it allows infinite usage and also causes negative mana

is dvd checking that bar for max mana

[dull heart]

That doesn't modify the bar

All it does is it tells items you have enough Mana to use the item always

And then raises Mana if it's below negative max mana

[amber egret]

does it say that the mana bars full though? having enough mana for it vs having full are i think different

[amber egret]

this specific description (which may be a paraphrase) seems that the weapons being told that it has enough to cast it but is Not being told that the mana bars full

[dull heart]

^

It literally just checks if your Mana stat is greater/equal to your max

chaos stone does not mess with either of those valeus

[amber egret]

whats the check to play the mana full sfx

i presume it matches

[dull heart]

no idea

[amber egret]

since it plays the mana full sfx when you’re full i think

keyword i think

so id think that if the code for the mana full sfx playing was duped to dvd line i think itd work

unless the mana full sfx playing code Also doesnt run with chaos stone in which i dont know

[lean relic]

This is like

You fix the door opening animation
The food on the table opens instead
You fix that too
But now toilet lid opens instead

[amber egret]

coder walks into bar
sits down
neighbor flies into the ceiling

[buoyant pulsar]

okay i know this is from like august last year but is there a somewhat up to date version thats public

[lean relic]

this is latest one (maybe)
The hog ate them all

[buoyant pulsar]

are u sure????????? gemini decimation still listed as laser redshift moonlight lmao

[amber egret]

phalanx is scattershot skewer in this

this is outdated

[buoyant pulsar]

yes i know its really outdated

[amber egret]

@dusk bronze

[buoyant pulsar]

im asking for an up to date one

[amber egret]

yea the guy i just pinged has one last i checked

[buoyant pulsar]

if nobody got our back xzier got our back

[dusk bronze]

basically the same but with the finalized names

[buoyant pulsar]

cool

are there any sprites that we know that arent on there?

[dusk bronze]

nop

[buoyant pulsar]

gotcha

ty

[oak seal]

have the devs stated if they're working on an update to migrate calamity to 1.4.5 once tmod updates?

[dusk bronze]

it will be done as soon as possible, according to them

[oak seal]

kkayyy

[hushed hazel]

they can't really do much right now since tmod has yet to update

but i'd wager a guess they've probably started planning for balance changes or whatever the fuck to 1.4.5 content

[rare tinsel]

i hope Tiamat is dragon themed

[oak seal]

calamity addons will also have to update to 1.4.5 and whatever changes in calamity too

[hard hearth]

1.4.5 has no content

silly Greasy Pete

😁

[versed heart]

This is true, 1.4.5 actually removed all content

[dusk bronze]

except fishing

[versed heart]

Oh yeah except that

[buoyant pulsar]

i bet the nidhogg is inspired loosely by railgunner from risk of rain

[cinder mural]

yep

reason why i won't update my game till most mods/addons are up to date

[dusk bronze]

you can update terraria to 1.4.5 and tmod will still run on 1.4.4

[buoyant pulsar]

i cant wait for pulse dragon to be obliterated

[cinder mural]

i know that part but i refer to tmod

[dusk bronze]

[dusk bronze]

wom

[hard copper]

scooter

[cinder mural]

wom

[spice hound]

wommy

[solemn crest]

It’s worm from calamity mod!

[lost surge]

how do i get 2.1.0

mines still stuck on 2.0.7

[dusk bronze]

try unsubscribing and resubscribing on the steam workshop

[hasty hawk]

make sure you dont have it in Documents/MyGames/Terraria/Tmodloader/Modseither not it being from a modpack with Tmod's modpack feature

[grave rock]

hog today for sure

[spice hound]

I have a feeling that hog wild will actually release on the 23rd of may 2026 at 13:61pm

[earnest jewel]

Alright Apollo. If you're wrong we hill have you pecked to death by birds.

[spice hound]

One must imagine piggyphus happy

[dull heart]

what if I buffed dragon rage

[amber egret]

make it a baton

and let ppl throw it

[gritty scarab]

That thing is aready broken

[amber egret]

if true melee wants melee they're gonna use uuh

[dull heart]

no

That's just violence

[amber egret]

they got grand dad

[fathom girder]

yes but make it unusably small

[dull heart]

I did make it 15% smaller you're right

[fathom girder]

called it

murasama 2 time

[gritty scarab]

in what moment did you nerf Dragon rage?

[dull heart]

I buffed it

at least on exo twins and scal

[gritty scarab]

Smaller=Nerf

[dull heart]

not in this case

[hasty hawk]

Dragon Rage should be reworked into a Pdao (however its spelled, that Chinese weapon), Glaive or smth and have you swing it, atm its quite boring and has no range leading it to be busted as hell since it needs to match killtimes yet hits once in a blue moon unless its thanathos or hearts

[gritty scarab]

What do you mean?

[dull heart]

:)

(it's not a rework)

[hasty hawk]

:(

[amber egret]

did you reduce the amt of projectiles

[dull heart]

yes

[amber egret]

like the ring from i think its 12 to 8

thought so

[dull heart]

No

[hasty hawk]

Tbh less projectiles but they deal more dmg is good

less lag

altho it does nerf Armor pen and Ichor's boost on them

[dull heart]

Oh no! Sharpening station matters less!

[gritty scarab]

Dragon rage is broken against worm bosses

[amber egret]

its 12 ap

thats al ot of ap

thats like

6 whole defense ignored i think

[dull heart]

12 defense ignored

+6 damage

[amber egret]

yeah

[hasty hawk]

RtN and Badge of Bravery also are armor pen

but for melee armor pen doesnt do much

unlike ranger and rogue

[amber egret]

counter: no one uses badge of bravery

[hasty hawk]

and mage

[dull heart]

??

that's just not true

[hasty hawk]

Badge of Bravery is extremely good

[amber egret]

i cannot name a single person who uses badge of bravery at least ot my knowledge

[hasty hawk]

Lategame ofc you get RtN

[dull heart]

Maybe by exos you drop it

but like it's the best option post provi

besides gauntlet ofc

[gritty scarab]

only because you dont use, it doesnt mean nobody uses it

[amber egret]

what is this preboss acc doing in mid pml

[dull heart]

how is that pre boss

10% dmg
10% crit

[earnest jewel]

That's way stronger than anything in pre-Hardmode.

[lyric trellis]

Pre-boss 😭

[dull heart]

that's better than fire gauntlet on a good amount of melee weapons

[earnest jewel]

There are Hardmode accessories that are notably weaker than that.

[dull heart]

Like Lightspeed

or Crescent Moon

[amber egret]

pardon ?

i thought gauntlet had 15%

[gritty scarab]

or weapons that go fast

[dull heart]

bob totals to 20%

[hasty hawk]

Gauntlet is 15% dmg and speed

[dull heart]

10% dmg 10% crit

It has 15% speed but half of melee does not get melee speed

[hasty hawk]

but some weapons cant benefit from speed

• theres the fast hitter weapons that like armor pen

[dull heart]

It also has 10% true melee, but a lot of weapons don't get true melee

[hasty hawk]

Melee doesnt have that many but it has some that spawn a lot of projectiles on hit

or that shoot projectiles that spawn projectiles...

[dull heart]

Badge of Bravery is just a common go to offensive

it's basically reaper tooth with 10 less AP

[amber egret]

idk i have not seen basically anyone use it unless they're actually out of other options

[dusk bronze]

same

[dull heart]

then you haven't looked very hard I think

[gritty scarab]

i did use it

[hasty hawk]

its better than Celestial Shell offensively

[thorn pier]

i feel like its not that niche ngl

[amber egret]

and most times you can bulk harder or just use smth like sand* shark tooth necklace

[dull heart]

when it's obtained it's literally beaten only by fire gauntlet

[dull heart]

SSTN is WAYY weaker

10% dmg vs 10% dmg 10% crit

[lyric trellis]

Crazy niche option: just a better destroyer emblem

[amber egret]

im feeling your over valuing crit chance. i am a lucky ambassador but 10% is not That good

[dull heart]

10% crit chance is stronger than 10% dmg

Like

Mathematically

[amber egret]

yeah thats why im a lucky ambassador

10% chance for x2 damage or 1.10x damage im pretty sure

[dull heart]

Its such a small amount that it's negligible, so really just 10% crit = 10% damage

so like

SSTN
10% dmg, 10 AP

BoB
20% dmg, 5 ap

[amber egret]

okay then why doesnt it say +20%

[dull heart]

Because it says 10% dmg and crit

10% crit is basically equivalent to 10% damage

[amber egret]

i know. why doesnt it give +20% (more realistically +15%) damage

[dull heart]

why does anything give crit chance

Why do critical hits exist

[amber egret]

great question

[dull heart]

That's a silly question to ask

and not really relevant either

[gritty scarab]

for making more dmg

[hard copper]

red number make monkey brain go o ha ha

[dull heart]

there IS difference in dmg and crit

[amber egret]

^

[dull heart]

but a baseline rule of thumb for measuring accessory value is 1-1 conversion

This breaks if using crit dmg modifiers

if you use eye of the Golem, now 10% crit is 10.75% damage instead of 10%

(actually even more because crit dmg is not a saturated stat)

[gritty scarab]

we can start hunting and killing hogs?

[cinder mural]

i do

it can be a good accessory

[hasty tangle]

plenty of people use it

its just good

solid damage acc for melee

[spice hound]

Random Question: What is the current plans for the Cryonic, Perennial, and Scoria Item sets? Are there any planned changes to these honestly quite boring weapon sets to like make them less i guess formulaic with like the same exact weapon kinds in each set, such as all of them having a yoyo, a spear, a sword, a bow*, a spell tome, etc.

[dull heart]

they'll be changed eventually

[spice hound]

I assumed as much they are quite boring as is

[buoyant pulsar]

why do u need a mythril anvil for wings

[hasty tangle]

not for all wings

[hasty tangle]

again, not all wings

[buoyant pulsar]

oh my goooooooooooooooood why

[hasty tangle]

its just progression

[buoyant pulsar]

i spent like 30 minutes grinding shit for these

mor elike 45

[hasty tangle]

its always good to check how something is crafted before grinding for it

magic storage and recipe browser should both show you any changes to the recipe

[buoyant pulsar]

harpy wings have always been like, completely beginning of hardmode

[spice hound]

I will say that does feel a little odd to only tier-lock it via its crafting station instead of like an actual ingredient

Like it is way harder to miss like an ingredient you can't get yet than the text saying a mythril anvil

[desert garnet]

In vanilla you get all the ores instantly

Thats why it was from the beginning

[buoyant pulsar]

i realize that but i think its silly that u can make angel wings and whatnot but not harpy wings which are the same tier

[spice hound]

I'm pretty sure at least in vanilla harpy wings are slightly stronger than angel/devil wings

[cinder mural]

i still fight with either triple balloon or aerialite wings

[buoyant pulsar]

yeah but u gotta grind a little more for them

[cinder mural]

until those same can no longer keep up with any fight

[buoyant pulsar]

i mean im debating using wap butdunno

[lyric vortex]

Yeah they're as good as frozen wings actually!

[spice hound]

It is weird how fairy wings which in vanilla are harpy/frozen wing tier strength aren't locked to a hardmode anvil while the others of its tier are

[lyric vortex]

Wait they just require a work bench?

[spice hound]

no they need a iron/lead anvil

[lyric vortex]

Oh

[spice hound]

because calamity makes mythril/orichalcum post mech-1 (or technically several other hardmode bosses through shimmer)

[lyric vortex]

I feel like that's another extremely weird thing like how spider armor only needs spider fangs and can otherwise be crafted without hardmode stations

[spice hound]

I know your talking about calamity but like 1.4.5 made spider armour require hardmode anvil

[lyric vortex]

Oh damn

Idk they changed it

[cinder mural]

that's an absolute ass change

[hasty tangle]

its kinda irrelevant in vanilla

[spice hound]

I don't like the change either since like your not using metal so like why at an anvil

[hasty tangle]

but cal might change it back

[dusk bronze]

craft spider armor at loom

[spice hound]

It does kinda make summoner have to wait a little longer for their armour but like its only a little

[spice hound]

[lyric vortex]

I guess only for extremely specific challenge runs ig

[cinder mural]

yeah cuz as early hardmode summoner in cal

spider armor is one of your few options iirc

[hasty tangle]

https://xkcd.com/1135/

xkcd: Arachnoneurology

SPIDER PSYCHOLOGY (21st Ed.) is a comprehensive overview of arachnoneurology, neuro-arachnology, forensic arachnology, neuro-arachnoneurology (the study of the brains of spider neurology experts), and arachnoarachnology (the study of too many spiders).

[dusk bronze]

relevant xkcd

[spice hound]

its your only (actually on-tier) option at the start of hardmode

Calamity will definitely change it since locking all summoner armours to post 1 mech would be insane

also even in vanilla it does kind of force summoners to like immediately interact with hardmode ores which like either means fishing or breaking altars, with the latter like having downsides like enabling random annoying pirates which often doesn't feel fun

[lyric vortex]

I wonder does calamity do anything regarding the chlorophyte extractinator to make it useful before you get chlorophyte?

[spice hound]

it requires chlorophyte why would it need to be good before you get chlorophyte

[desert garnet]

[spice hound]

Calamity does add some new extractinations for it though, mainly just purifying astral stuff, including turning astral ore --> meteorite and astral bars --> meteorite bars

[lyric vortex]

Well the way it works currently in vanilla is kind of like exclusively for people who need to like collect all ores, I thought maybe it could've been renamed/repurposed in calamity because I honestly stay like 10 feet away from that

[dull heart]

nope

but also it's really not that needed

[spice hound]

it also does let you turn shadow scales into tissue samples so like it has uses

[dull heart]

Shimmer makes getting all prehardmode ores easy

And hardmode ores both generate anyway

[spice hound]

like maybe making it so that it is used for calamities evil biome items to convert between them could expand it but like calamity makes the other evil biome available all the way back in prehardmode so like there wouldn't really be a need

I do actually now wonder if in the 1.4.5 port if any calamity items will be made renewable through extractinator like how sand was handled so like skyblock could obtain otherwise unobtainable blocks

[amber egret]

shimmering shimmer should give craftjuice which upgrades stuff instead of decraftong

[spice hound]

Looking through calamity's blocks like there are a couple that would be unobtainable I'm pretty sure in skyblock: Abyss Gravel, Vernal Soil, Eutrophic Sand, Scorched Remains, Infernal suevite & Draedon Lab items, as well as stuff made from them, and also Navystone and Brimstone Slag because while they're renewable I'm unsure if the mobs that drop them can only spawn on them too, and maybe the other abyss materials since I'm not too certain of the requirements of the enemies that drop them. Additionally I guess maybe auric ore could be an issue since skyblock+fortheworthy has no shimmer island and like no auric ore would realistically generate so like idk how'd you'd get any

Actually interesting calamity will end up making silt available in skyblock worlds thanks to how novae slag gets converted since it can turn slush (which is obtainable) into novae slag into silt

[spice hound]

No it should actually give "dimmer" when shimmered which also causes some items to become permanent stat decreases

[obtuse kernel]

can someone help me. this happen when i click update vfx+ recently

[dusk bronze]

#other-mod-talk

[barren nacelle]

Hi chat Crispy loves you

[spice hound]

Hi

[lyric vortex]

Thank you crispy

[versed heart]

I love weaving my clothes made out of Spider Fangs at a Loom!

I guess, point is what crafting station would logically make sense to craft armor made out of Spider Fangs?

I don't doubt there are plenty of other examples like that in the game, though it doesn't really matter

[spice hound]

It 100% doesn't make sense at the hardmode anvil because its not a metal and its not an inherently magic material which since like some recipes involving souls are made there magic recipes at hardmode anvils are kind of a thing but again spider fangs fit neither of those groups

[earnest jewel]

Solution: Spider crafting station.

[spice hound]

true also make spider furniture crafted there

[hidden mango]

does calamity have 1.4.5 or nah

[spice hound]

not yet

that won't happen for a while when both tmodloader ports and then calamity will take a bit to port

[cinder mural]

Not yet

Try again in

Uhhhh

2 or 3 months?

Since
Bigger and boulder isn't in tmod yet

[solemn crest]

Hog boulder when

[thorn pier]

in 4 seconds

[solar hare]

probably More

[buoyant pulsar]

death mode twins are really hard....

[solemn crest]

Closer to 6-7 months

[buoyant pulsar]

also pretty sure vulkan needs to be buffed

its single target is worse than death valley duster which is preboss

mana use is way too high for its dps

plus its pretty much single target which is bad for mechs

[spice hound]

whats vulkan again?

[arctic cliff]

VULCAN

WITH A C

[thorn pier]

magic gun

[arctic cliff]

LIKE THE FUCKING VOLCANO CALLED VULCANO

[buoyant pulsar]

anyway

[spice hound]

oh the new arsenal magic gun thing

[blazing field]

Zix Zevennn

[buoyant pulsar]

hey bug tester

u should test this

[blazing field]

Hi

[spice hound]

boooooo 💥 💥 💥

Wait random thought I wonder how dramatically chillet and roller skates will be nerfed when 1.4.5 calamity eventually happens

honestly since calamity does actually increase your base movement speed stuff iirc skates might not be like as broken but like chillet is a pre-boss ram dash with +10% damage so like they're getting nerfed into obliteration definitely

[iron dew]

what if there were like bug untesters and their sole job is to undo the progress of the bug testers

[spice hound]

hold on your cooking

[solar hare]

thats me

for every true report someone makes in dev i make 3 false ones

morning midnight

[iron dew]

good morning done

thats awesome keep up the good work

[solar hare]

yep

[boreal pewter]

I do think some people think it's worse than it is because they're just using the right click and then holding M1, so it's suboptimal
But also it might still be too weak then for a weapon that you kinda need to manage a lot

[buoyant pulsar]

how am i supposed to uyse it?

[amber egret]

which ones vulcan

is that the burst fire harpoon

because it doesnt feel very good compared to its contemporaries

[dusk bronze]

yeah

[boreal pewter]

It's just right clicking before the gun winds down fully to extend how long it's firing, here's an example
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/452207242574299146/1478687589249843241/Terraria__This_is_a_message_to_my_master_2026-03-04_01-32-22_Trim.mp4

[amber egret]

oh that is Not explained at All

[buoyant pulsar]

yeah i do that

its good, but the mana cost is high

[amber egret]

i thought it was harpoon to make the projectiles home then hold lc

[boreal pewter]

I mean

[buoyant pulsar]

the damage is actually decent but it maybe should have one pierce

and lower mana cost

[amber egret]

yeah implicitly i expect "if a harpoon is out, the burst mode will last longer while the harpoon is active"

not "the action of launching the harpoon causes the burst to extend"

[boreal pewter]

Could use some wording adjustments to make it more clear

[amber egret]

yeuh thatd be good

[buoyant pulsar]

even with mana cuffs its just unreliable to continue to use for a long time because of the mana drain

[amber egret]

also the fact that it makes shots home does also make it feel like you're supposed to launch then fire rather than fire and launch

[buoyant pulsar]

ugh i wish mana was good

[wise bolt]

https://tenor.com/view/brittlestar-wunkus-gif-418682295799919232

[distant raft]

this is the best idea ive ever heard ever

calamity needs 200 bug untesters

[iron dew]

i think the mod would actually go viral if they did that

[solemn crest]

I volunteer my services, I am amazing at being stupid

[buoyant pulsar]

viral as in... viruses

the mod installs viruses on ur pc

[spice hound]

someone should make a mod that installs a virus on your pc every time you die in game

[buoyant pulsar]

this is a great idea

[spice hound]

surely nothing could go wrong with that

[buoyant pulsar]

where did the yharon roar come from

u ever think about that

cause its sampled like 20 times across the mod

and its iconic

what if its like someone's cat yawning

[flat folio]

Programmers!

[spice hound]

[amber egret]

is there an evil middle ground that neither tests nor untests but instead makes the tests and untests confounding

[high scaffold]

I kinda wish fishing was easier to get into as calamity has a lot of cool fishing exclusive items and generaly just nice things

Star fish for early game mages, sea spirit amulet being one of the coolest pre hm accessories, some fish weapons

I hope SSO will do something about it

[spice hound]

I forgot about enchanted starfish they're very interesting but like do kinda feel a little weird since like they stop being useful after you've maxxed your mana

[high scaffold]

As there will be a lot of water and fish involved

Getting bait early game is quite a chore

You either need to find a can of worms which you arent guaranteed at all or get 50 silver, get a merchant, buy bug net and begin a slow process of braking background objects in hope of worms and grasshoppers

There are wulfrum fishing rod and wulfrum bobber which can make it a bit less painful

[high scaffold]

2.2 tomorrow

[ashen pivot]

lie

[high scaffold]

Imagine if he announcement will be "Check Steam"

[ashen pivot]

that'll be the announcement for the yharim update

[high scaffold]

Yharim is canceled

[ashen pivot]

shi mb

was in a bad mood

accidentally canceled him and forgot

[plush carbon]

I never got to try the weird fishing bobber accesories tnat add like a minigame

[ashen pivot]

why

[spice hound]

Yharim is cancelled we will actually be fighting his superior jharim

[plush carbon]

I think Fargo's giving hooks more bobbers broke it

[high scaffold]

Turn it off then

[plush carbon]

I didnt think to do that

And then I got the Dreamcatcher from WotG which is just a free win on all fishing forever

Still cant believe they added that and Interstellar Bait and just hand it out to you

Wotg is a weird ass mod

[desert garnet]

As long as you start catching bugs from the start, you should be set

Expecially around town during the night/day

Sometimes big amount of bait fly around

[spice hound]

Also you can also shimmer herb bags into cans of worms for a ton of bait

[high scaffold]

You want me to find shimmer on the very first day of the playthrough?

Also herb bags are also rng

[ashen pivot]

shrine

makes it easy

[spice hound]

Not the first day but like its not hard to find it in the first couple days in game

[ashen pivot]

guaranteed herb bags in the space draedon lab

[high scaffold]

Jungle

[spice hound]

The shrine on the surface does make finding it easy

[plush carbon]

Trivial even

[ashen pivot]

even easier way

[spice hound]

Also like even without it just breakimg those small rocks and catching worms is fairly easy

[ashen pivot]

shadow mirror

prisma's juicebox

[high scaffold]

With all listed above its not realistic to do all this on the first day of a regular playtrough not aiming to do exactly that

[spice hound]

50 silver is like nothing and 100% possible day one to get bug net

[high scaffold]

What about pure calamity

[spice hound]

Wait doesn’t cal even add a recipe for bug net

[high scaffold]

No

[spice hound]

I’m pretty sure it does or at least did

[ashen pivot]

i tried doing that and i didn't enjoy it

but the shrine near the edge of the world on the same side as the jungle is pretty easy to find

unless it's on a fucking living tree like it always is if i don't disable generating living trees

[high scaffold]

Prisma juicebox is just alchemist npc in a trench coat

[spice hound]

Ok it did it was removed in brainstorm though

[ashen pivot]

except the trench coat was freshly cleaned

alchemistnpc lite is alchemistnpc in a dirty stinky outdated trench coat

[high scaffold]

Alchemist npc is still alchemist npc even if its in a trench coat

[spice hound]

Also alchemistnpc has like actually just cheaty items like ninja potion

But you definitely can start fishing day 1 even in vanilla since like merchant only needs 50 silver which is like 1 wooden chest at worst

[high scaffold]

Sure but for that you need to focus purely on trying to fish on the first day

[spice hound]

Not really its just build 2 houses and start exploring

[high scaffold]

It doesnt occur naturaly that "oh, I want to fish today"

I only get to fishing when I want to play terraria without playing terraria

[spice hound]

Thats more of a fishing issue rather than it not being like easy to fish day 1 or whatever

[high scaffold]

That what I was talking about from the start

I guess fishing can be better in multiplayer but its multiplayer

[spice hound]

Oh I was confused It seemed like you were having issue with early game fishing ability to at all do it

[high scaffold]

Fishing loot: goog
Fishing process and all steps that you need to do before fishing: not goog

Like sunken sea has some cool fishing loot but I doesnt provide you with any places where you can start fishing without prep

[spice hound]

Okay yeah that is an issue but like SSO will definitely be the time when they’d fix that

[desert garnet]

Calamity makes it more easier, by making the angler quests rewards after specific amount of quests

[high scaffold]

Also an issue with early game fishing for me is that to be ready fish anywhere you need to take up at least 2 inventory slots which fill up realy easily in early game due to simple exploration

[desert garnet]

That means you are fishing too early

If you dont even have piggy bank

[high scaffold]

But the quests still suck pretty much

[desert garnet]

Nah

They dont take much time

[spice hound]

If you mean bait and rod like you can just put your bait in your ammo slots

[desert garnet]

Cal even makes you mine and walk much faster

Like 50%

[high scaffold]

But if I start fishing later the loot will have nearly no value to me

[desert garnet]

Then why are you taking underground loot when you want to fish it up?

If you are instantly fishing before even having merchant

Then you most prob dont have good amount of bait and gear to protect yourself

[high scaffold]

But when I have all the gear I dont need to fish anymore

[ashen pivot]

I love joining conversations about fishing when I’ve done about 30 minutes of fishing in my 2000 hours of playing terraria

[high scaffold]

Before trasher strat was removed people were going for it because how easy and competitive with exploration it was

[ashen pivot]

Trasher stacking was just bummy though

[spice hound]

It completely removed any fishing progression till post moon lord

[ashen pivot]

Wdym you get to skip all the way to pre evil 2 minus some boss loot

[spice hound]

Even then probably so few people even know there are even post-moonlord rods

[urban cloak]

when would you consider it "too early" and "too late" for yourself

fishing kind of always has good loot in a sense cause there are many fish that are required to craft useful potions

[high scaffold]

Imagine if there was a fishing hut near one of the oceans so you could start fishing early but not as op as trashers were

[spice hound]

Wrath potions are literally just avenger emblem level boosts which is crazy good

[urban cloak]

accessories and other stuff can def get outclassed at some point tho but i feel like a lot of them are useful for a while unless you're fully maxxing out before your first boss

[hardy gulch]

i would probably do it at least after i get a good armor set, accessories, and a halfway decent weapon first...

[ashen pivot]

I love buying these potions

[hardy gulch]

logically speaking wrath potions are better for more classes than rage potions because summoner exists

[ashen pivot]

Only reason I’d prefer corruption over crimson if I didn’t have potion vendors

[frail owl]

VAMPIRE KNIVES!!!!

[spice hound]

Honestly is there anything that like corruption has over crimson in terms of which is better as the actual like main world evil

You can get most of the content from the other evil but like vampire knives are like 10x better than scourge if the corruptor and like I feel like most crimson mimic loot is better than corrupted so them being easier to fight is nicer too

[left marlin]

hey i havent checked since the update about the brain of cuthulu

anything major thats new?

[hushed hazel]

the Hog

[frail owl]

putrid scent, i guess?

[spice hound]

+5% damage is ass compared to flesh knuckles

[frail owl]

and crit

and reduced aggro... i guess

[spice hound]

Reduced aggro is such a bad thing since like it would be so much less useful than having 1 player with increased aggro

[frail owl]

but hey it's 5% damage and crit

[spice hound]

Emblems outdo that though

[frail owl]

something that its upgrades in vanilla doesn't fucking inherit

[spice hound]

They inherit the ass decreased aggro right

[stuck kite]

chain guillotines is cray

[spice hound]

Fetid bagnakhs are my beloved though

The true-est melee

But like generally in pre-hardmode crimson is easier since theres actually space underground for a decent boss arena

And in hardmode most evil-biome specifics don’t matter as much since you can make the opposite one

The only things that matter for hardmode main evil is I guess which is easier to contain (neither is both suck), biome chests (crimson is objectively better) and like biome mimics since the main evil’s one is easier to spawn

[high scaffold]

Cnidarian is actualy slept upon

Both fun and effective weapon

Also got sea spirit amulet on tier

A bit underwhelming

I would want to use it but stat accessories are just more consistent

[hasty tangle]

just fought provi for the first time since 2.1 and damn, her visuals are good

[mellow spade]

the spawn animation is absolutely gorgeous

imo it's the best visual effect in calamity

dev team cooked

[stuck kite]

yay

[high scaffold]

And the new visuals make attacks more readable

Especially the crystal

Old crystal was such an annoyance

[mellow spade]

DoG may have gotten the biggest glowup but I think Providence still has to be my favourite fight visually

[dense sundial]

Wouldn’t Brain be the biggest glowup given that DoG is still essentially building off of the same base

[main estuary]

the brain and dog had the biggest glowups

[plush carbon]

DoG is basically damage control

[main estuary]

true
but the brain needed the rework

bountiful harvest boc was so ass i would fight the eater instead if i wasn't so stubborn

[plush carbon]

Funny

I choose crimson because hive mind is ass

I do not jive with the hive

[main estuary]

hive and perfs are mid tbh

[dense sundial]

2.1 Hive Mind is. Okay

[main estuary]

but that's because they've essentially been unchanged since idk

[mellow spade]

I'd say DoG because it's a post-ML boss so you expect more from it

[dense sundial]

From a purely mechanical standpoint I think Brain needed it more

In other respects DoG needed it more

[mellow spade]

BoC rework is still peak tho don't get me wrong

[main estuary]

it's almost like the new fight works with any music pack

[mellow spade]

which one, BoC or DoG

[main estuary]

boc

[mellow spade]

ah

[dense sundial]

I still have my minor issues with 2.1 Brain, but I think it’s one of the better Terraria bosses out there period

[main estuary]

i accidentally found my favorite soundtrack for death brain while playing rogue

[dense sundial]

That’s an incredibly far cry from Fabsolian Brain

[high scaffold]

I think the BoC nerfs were a bit unnecessary tbh

[plush carbon]

Yea it actually has ideas for a crimson boss beyond ichor

[versed heart]

The Ennway glaze is real (and deserved, I think)

[main estuary]

i wonder if the eater will have a similar roar like the brain

[dense sundial]

Ennway made Wayfair King Slime so I have to agree

[dense sundial]

There a couple p2 attacks that arguably still need more nerfs

[plush carbon]

Everware eoc is pretty damn good

[mellow spade]

I don't find BoC to be too difficult

[dense sundial]

Namely the random ichor rain, and only because of the blood spreads in it

[main estuary]

never heard of everware

[mellow spade]

Maybe the one where it teleports around and shoots the blood scythes but that's kind of it

[plush carbon]

Ichor rain is the lamest attack boc can do rn i think

I do not like when boc is given ichor just because muh crimson

[mellow spade]

But idk maybe I've just gotten very good at the fight

[dense sundial]

GANONDORF TENNIS IS NOT LAME

TAKE THAT BACK

I do find a lot of the p2 attacks oddly… static and uninteresting

[plush carbon]

Find Luigi is really funny tho

[amber egret]

why do ichor rain’s bombs not bounce

[versed heart]

Ichor rain is Ganondorf tennis? It's been a while since I fought them, and I didn't fight them much, but I feel like I should remember that

[mellow spade]

I love the Find Luigi attack

[dense sundial]

Like it has Ganondorf Tennis and Find Luigi and the illusion dash and then it has. Spread of projectiles. Ring of projectiles. Row of projectiles

[amber egret]

i never saw that during my play though since i used Basher

which was Pretty Fuckin Good

[earnest jewel]

It's called Dead Man's Volley!!!

[dense sundial]

One of the patches gave the attack a bomb that you can reflect to the boss by hitting it

[versed heart]

Cool

[plush carbon]

I didn’t know you could reflect the bomb

[urban cloak]

boc is a case where it has more attacks than it needs to

[amber egret]

oh i didnt know you couldnparry the BOMB

Dude.

[plush carbon]

I don’t really mind the attack but it being ichor is like
Eh.

[dense sundial]

Half of the bombs can’t get reflected until you kill them for some reason?? But still

[amber egret]

cant fuckin type

[hasty tangle]

i agree, but its a good problem to have

[amber egret]

eyes and hands hurt. i am n hell

[urban cloak]

more than likely caused by being pretty much concepted and programmed by one person

[hasty tangle]

i like how unique they all are while still feeling coherent

[dense sundial]

That’s the other thing, and this might sound dumb

Brain being as good as it is is a problem

[plush carbon]

A modded BoC starts firing off ichor and im like
Yeah you would

[urban cloak]

its literally The Crimson Material im not sure what else you're expecting tbh

[dense sundial]

It sets an insanely high standard for Cal’s vanilla changes that I think isn’t even generally desired in dev

[amber egret]

erm… blighted gel….

[urban cloak]

i suppose brain doesn't really need to use it because its a prehm boss but like still

[plush carbon]

I mean theres more theming to crimson than ichor and boc has zero relation to ichor

[urban cloak]

no one cares about blighted gel be real bro

[amber egret]

if i compare this to baldurs gate 3, does that comprehend

[plush carbon]

Blood
Organs

[dense sundial]

I have not played BG3

[urban cloak]

i guess thats fair

[amber egret]

“if other bosses try to match the effort put into 2.1 boc, theyre just gonna burn out and not get made”

[plush carbon]

Perfs can have ichor ig

[urban cloak]

probably consequence of this again

[amber egret]

it was a big discussion like. a year ago?

[plush carbon]

Especially pml perfs can have ichor

[amber egret]

stuck with me

[plush carbon]

I don’t like both having ichor

[amber egret]

eows got cursed flames

[plush carbon]

Esp with it being a hardmode debuff usually

[plush carbon]

The same applies to that i didnt think it needed to be said

[dense sundial]

Do you think it would be in the cards to simplify Brain a bit? Remove some of the p2 attacks, for example

[amber egret]

i think this is a major sticking point for boc. boc is a really good fight but they also had like 2 years

[urban cloak]

it'll depend on how we tackle vanilla bosses in general in the future
brain only is how it is today cause people were just kind of doing whatever during sso cause no one wanted to work on it anymore

[amber egret]

it should not be the standard it should be a notable outlier thats above the expected standard

[dense sundial]

They had less than one. Fabsol was removed last May.

[dull heart]

BoC was done over about 3 months I think

[urban cloak]

present day calamity dev has some more structure in that i probably can't just start working on reworking like. moon lord. and have dev focus switch entirely on that

also yeah brain started like late summer 2025

[amber egret]

whered i hear it took a year

[urban cloak]

idk lmao

[amber egret]

like three people told me that

[urban cloak]

whoever told you that lied

[dense sundial]

Seems good to hear

[amber egret]

okay well my point crumbles to dust and blows away then

idk cal devs should be tarred and feathered i guess??? whats the argument to make for make bosses cooler

[main estuary]

on yharons auric soul we have gotta get eow with a cursed flamethrower

[urban cloak]

the argument is that they are all BORING and need to be sauced up

[amber egret]

yeah but whats the argument that sm1 like nuclear terror needs souped up

[urban cloak]

we just need to like actually work together on them as a team cause brain was more the brainchild of big e before the decision to release brainstorm

[main estuary]

what does nuclear terror even do
aside from looking cool

[amber egret]

its a really big water skater

[plush carbon]

Look at acid rain as a whole dude

[amber egret]

sm1 Like

i picked a random late game example

[amber egret]

do you need like 12 superstars to rework king slime

[plush carbon]

You picked an unremarkable miniboss from a supremely boring event so

[amber egret]

it dont feel like it at least

[amber egret]

imagine if it was a shark

and had a chainsaw

[dull heart]

the big thing we need is simply for that to be something the team is prioritizing work on

[earnest jewel]

Ichor is blood.

[plush carbon]

Acid Rain Tier 3 is practically Slime Rain 2

[urban cloak]

if we're updating acid rain as a whole and people feel like nuclear terror could use some improvements then we work to improving it
alternatively someone could just present ideas and if the team's fine with it then it can be developed

[plush carbon]

There is one new enemy that makes up the majority of the event

And a specific miniboss that gets spammed

And it goes way longer than it feels any need to

[hollow adder]

rework terror and mauler into a single boss, with terror riding the shark csm style

[spark belfry]

Yeah you sold me

[amber egret]

i (personally. my take.) think that centering a focus around one Large thing (events or main stage boss) means that bosses that dont fit either niche kinda get left out

[main estuary]

this would kick ass as an addon

[urban cloak]

what doze said is also true though that it needs to be related to smth the team is prioritizing at the current moment as opposed to just showing up and announcing you're doing it immediately

[amber egret]

i forgot the mauler exists

[plush carbon]

I can’t believe acid rain had a whole update shit was dire

[amber egret]

when most often these bosses are also not problematic for like one or two people to hammer out instead of requiring the direct focal of the whole team

[urban cloak]

im sure half the community doesn't know mauler is real cause of how rarely it spawns ngl

[amber egret]

isnt it just a really rocky shark

[plush carbon]

Brown Shark

[urban cloak]

big brown irradiated shark with some actually cool behavior

[amber egret]

oh no fuckin wonder ive never heard of the sulph acid cannon

[plush carbon]

If it weren’t for Old Duke and my liking for fighting all bosses I’d never ever give acid rain my time

[dull heart]

I think I've done acid rain 3 one time ever

[main estuary]

i saw the mauler once
i think it functioned like duke and had only one attack

[plush carbon]

Acid Rain 3 is the event equivalent of scrolling instagram reels

[hollow adder]

the only reason i've done acid rain at all on any char is for the summoner acc from the first miniboss

[dull heart]

Acid Rain 1 and 2 have good stuff in general

It's only 3 that feels really out of place

[amber egret]

i do acid rain t3 bc its a good dps test

• im there alr for abyss shit

for example, right click grand dad 2.1.0

[main estuary]

it kinda feels like filler content

[amber egret]

Be. Gone. - me to a random ass nuclear terror

[dull heart]

I'm not really sure what to do to make tier 3 feel more real though at the moment

[plush carbon]

Maybe add more than one enemy lmao

[dull heart]

Well. Step 1 would be to make it actually threatening

[main estuary]

doesn't it also add the gamma slime

[dull heart]

and make it so the minibosses all actually spawn

[amber egret]

i got this. have t1 be preboss, t2 post skeletron, and have t3 post as

[plush carbon]

That is the one enemy

[amber egret]

that way, you never need to touch thre sea Ever Again

[plush carbon]

Other two are minibosses and Mauler is obsolete cause that mf not showing up

[dull heart]

minibosses are still enemies

they're just stronger ones

[amber egret]

minibosses are miniature bosses

hence

[dull heart]

minibosses are fake anyway

[plush carbon]

Plus i know this is a known thing but all mobs have the same exact unappealing palette
Its a brainless, boring, droning event that you just sit through and take in nothing of it

[dull heart]

It's fine in the earlier 2 tiers

because the enemies actually matter

[plush carbon]

Ok i killed nuclear terror
Wow heres another one immediately
Rinse and repeat for 10 minutes or so

[dull heart]

tier three is victim of Calamity AoE Powercreep

Among other things

@ crit start testing all post ml weapons on acid rain 3

[plush carbon]

It’s arguably worse than moon refights cause at least there there is a threat

[vivid aurora]

[plush carbon]

Being overtuned enemy stats

[amber egret]

what the fuck is a moon

all my homies harvest fuel in the Warp in the Distortion

[dull heart]

The threat of acid rain is falling asleep and dying to old duke bc you're asleep at the keyboard

[main estuary]

post-dog moons and eclipse are so boring

[plush carbon]

Similarly to Calamitas Clone

[amber egret]

the Warp, the Crush, and the Flare

[dull heart]

how is that at all similar to clone

[amber egret]

all gonna be in the distortion

[vivid aurora]

i dont think so

[plush carbon]

Threat of falling asleep

[dull heart]

L take

[plush carbon]

Brother she is just twins again

[dull heart]

maybe pre 2.1

[plush carbon]

Sure she got a visual update wowie

[dull heart]

but having limited space means you need to actually pay attention

[plush carbon]

Abd the visuals are great

[amber egret]

i gan name three bosses that are teins again

[plush carbon]

Not really you just go up and down

[main estuary]

scal (somewhat)
cclone
exo hunters

[amber egret]

cal player when you move in a direction .

[urban cloak]

I prolly fucked up the what I was tryna say before so here
It's def case sensitive in terms of how many people actually need to work on that stuff yeah
What I was getting at was that we don't want stuff like that to randomly crop up while we're in the middle of developing a focused update. It nerd to either be planned out in advance or discussed before agreeing to put more focus on it

[vivid aurora]

can we get young duke in new acid rain 3

[amber egret]

/j.

[dull heart]

Twins alignment chart

Twins - twins AI

Twins visual - not twins

[main estuary]

cue the unique ai gif with ret, calclone and her brothers

[dull heart]

This yeah

[urban cloak]

One guy could totally program a skeletron rework by themselves. I could prolly do that if I wanted to. But it still needs to be tested for bugs and feedback and all that

[amber egret]

all bosses are either retinazer or biome mimic

[dull heart]

Or brain of Cthulhu

[urban cloak]

Plus if you want any custom assets for it like sprites and sounds that's more to consider

[hasty tangle]

calvin and hobbes meme

[amber egret]

scal? retinazer. duke fishron? biome mimic

[mystic eagle]

Current SCal and Calclone

[urban cloak]

Shoehorning that into an already focused update is how you get updates like bountiful harvest and brainstorm cause it takes away from what were meant to be working on

[amber egret]

despite ravager being a biome mimic, it is both

[plush carbon]

CalClone is literally Retinazer but on his own you cannot argue that

The border is a bandaid solution

[amber egret]

they do funny attacks!!

[dull heart]

This does not mean it's a "fall asleep" moment though

[plush carbon]

In my experience it really is

[amber egret]

gfb should make it into flappy bird

[dull heart]

it does depend on difficulty

[amber egret]

2 minutes of the infernum prof guards p1

[mystic eagle]

#suggestions-posting message go my cool suggestion

[main estuary]

i hate how true this is

[dull heart]

mid suggestion

everything is mid if it's not roots

[mystic eagle]

Retinazer is in roots

[dull heart]

ok and

This is just points against your suggestion

[iron dew]

i would hope retinazer is in roots it would be pretty weird for it to just remove half of a boss like that

[mystic eagle]

The Single

[amber egret]

doze can you give a highball estimate on roots’s completion

[dull heart]

• Scal is like retanazer
• Retinazer is in roots
• scal is good

[hasty tangle]

plot twist: roots deletes every single boss in vanilla and makes completely new ones from scratch

[dull heart]

sure, by 2160

[amber egret]

the temperature is 80 degrees
the temperature is rising
therefore, 80 is rising

[dull heart]

glad you get it

[urban cloak]

sun lord will be real 🙏

[amber egret]

star god

[iron dew]

instead of brain of cthulhu you get to fight the liver of cthulhu

[mystic eagle]

Dirt Lord

Is there even a dirt themed modded boss

[dull heart]

King Slime ❌

Jungle Tyrant Yharslime ✅

[iron dew]

one of the twins should be replaced with this guy

[dull heart]

Spazmatism becomes him
Retanazer stays the same

Add fovenator

[twin juniper]

what does it do

[iron dew]

True

[dull heart]

Really though like

we all know twins becomes polyphemalus

[rare tinsel]

isn’t that that one arcade game myth

[dull heart]

new addon dropped, Doze's Calamity Boss Replacement

All bosses now are storm weaver with the right stats for their tier

Except dog, who stays the same

[iron dew]

polyphemalus but theres like 50 of them attached together and they form a big circle around you

[dull heart]

The Net of Cthulhu

[iron dew]

calamity swap mod where i swap storm weaver with crabulon for no reason

[vivid aurora]

stozm weaze

storm weaver just call me, he says he wants to PVP with me

[iron dew]

i'd swap hive mind with ares gauss nuke cannon i think

[rare tinsel]

pet him

[hasty tangle]

worm steaver

[iron dew]

it's a good thing storm weaver has good colors like blue and pink and purple because otherwise i'd have no reason to like him

[vivid aurora]

what does S stand for?

smile sweet sister service

STORM WEAVER

[dull heart]

storm weaver phase 1 design is peak

he gets ugly when naked

[iron dew]

storm weaver should really put some damn clothes on in phase 2

[dull heart]

so true

arrest for indecent exposure

[iron dew]

when we get to storm weaver in dlc i should ask to give him clothes in phase 2

that can be the one and only emode resprite

[dull heart]

add a mosaic blur filter across the whole body

[iron dew]

😭

[rare tinsel]

do it

peak gfb change

[dull heart]

I should work on storm weaver rework mod

unfortunately I'm too busy

[tropic jolt]

calamity dev threatens to rework boss

[main estuary]

you forgot sadistic and surprise

[hard copper]

Sister splinter

Silk song on September 4th

[native thistle]

calamitie

[opaque plume]

weaver (silksong spoilers)

this community isnt ready for the conversation about how wotg post ml is literally silksong act 3 /j

[tropic jolt]

I cant believe silksong copied wotg

[opaque plume]

same

think about it
||
-literal apocalypse happens after you thought you were done
-need very powerful plant to go fight and end the apocalypse
-books for solyn's bookshelf are like mementos
||

[tropic jolt]

I dont know if anybody playing calamity thinks they're done after moon lord

[opaque plume]

yeah but the idea that its like a false epilogue

[tropic jolt]

say that again...

[hard hearth]

weaver?

😨

[hushed hazel]

stygian weaver guy..............

☹️

[opaque plume]

yes i know

next your going to tell me hornet is a legend who suffers strife...

[young pelican]

Biggest calamity update and still no murasama rework that was teased a year ago. 🥀

[earnest jewel]

Because it's not a priority.

Why on Earth would updating a joke weapon be a priority?

They should just remove it at this point. Would do us a lot of good.

[lyric vortex]

Earth calamity mod weaponreference

[earnest jewel]

You will be boiled.

[lyric vortex]

Oh wait this isn't gentalk

Cya

[spice hound]

Muramasa more like muramassa

[earnest jewel]

That's the blue one.

[dusk bronze]

[spice hound]

Such a bad weapon that its name is one letter off a different one

[dull heart]

murasama is not a joke weapon

[polar tide]

yes it is

[lyric trellis]

Save us murasama

[hasty tangle]

its like an eternal prank on the dev team to generate discontent over every update that doesnt rework it

so its a joke weapon, but the joke is on the devs

[dull heart]

it's not a joke weapon it's the immortal snail

[spice hound]

It may not be a joke weapon but it sure is a joke of a weapon or something

[arctic cliff]

honestly I think it’s for the best of the community to get the mura rework sooner than later

[halcyon seal]

1 update goes by and it’s “when’s the next murasama rework???”

[hasty tangle]

i agree

as much as i dont like the murasama, i hate ppl constantly bitching about it more

[arctic cliff]

five billion murasama reports

[halcyon seal]

I just hope it’s cool when it does drop

[hasty tangle]

it will be

[halcyon seal]

Then I’ll be satisfied

[arctic cliff]

now my wish for the murasama to be de referenced and become its own awesome sword is something I recognize to be a pipe dream

[halcyon seal]

Missed opportunity for April Fools 2026 to rework murasama into a beam sword clone tbh

[polar tide]

https://tenor.com/view/wiggle-cat-kitty-small-car-gif-16990037302750262224

[halcyon seal]

Especially since that would mean you could drop the actual Murasama rework on April 1st in some other year and people would think it’s a joke

And then they actually use it and go hey wait a minute

[arctic cliff]

revolutionary new means of april fools pranks

[lyric trellis]

That's April Fools 2026

[polar tide]

idgaf about myassama look at kitty

[arctic cliff]

tik tokkers wish they could have a fraction of your power draegpt

[distant raft]

i thought that was horselamity

[spice hound]

Kitter💗

[polar tide]

https://tenor.com/view/gatito-cat-kitty-cute-silly-cat-gif-3290956017813741423

[halcyon seal]

Oh I didn’t know you’re a dev now

[polar tide]

see it wobble

[halcyon seal]

I know it’s passed but like it would’ve been a really good bit right

[halcyon seal]

He will be baked soon

[arctic cliff]

good thing because I can finally easily differentiate between gp and gpscorpion

[polar tide]

with the breakneck pace he's going at? you'll never catch him

[halcyon seal]

I will use my evil wizard magnet hands

[polar tide]

Baby kitties are immune to Magnetism. ❌

[lyric trellis]

I'd hope the difference in name length made that obvious

[halcyon seal]

Done. ✅

[spice hound]

The wobler

[arctic cliff]

Oh, if only ye knew

[halcyon seal]

Pirate vagueposters be like

[arctic cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/spheal-tummy-slap-belly-slap-pokemon-gif-3721550777642990712

[polar tide]

https://tenor.com/view/seal-stomp-gif-9111511299504717503

[halcyon seal]

Do we think shroombles deserve rights

[hushed hazel]

no

[hardy gulch]

i already grounded one into a bowl

do i need to make a torment nexus for them

[halcyon seal]

you mean the one from dont build the torment nexus?

[hardy gulch]

perhaps

[arctic cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/bnuy-bunny-flat-creature-rabbit-gif-18115814056538656573

[spice hound]

Bnuy

[halcyon seal]

He is a pancake because he is stupid

[hardy gulch]

bnuuy...

[solemn crest]

I’m finally going to have internet tomorrow 🥳

[buoyant pulsar]

is it just me or is frigidflash like

overtuned

[thorn pier]

yeah

[rich ginkgo]

stop this madness

[dusk bronze]

very

[polar tide]

if frigidflash gets nerfed because of you i am sending a horde of rabid apes directly towards your house

[vocal kelp]

If you nerf frigidflash I'm genuinely like going into calamity hq and leaking everything

[misty wren]

someone tried to do that once

it didnt end well

[solemn crest]

Nerf frigidflash = become hog food

[orchid finch]

Slop my beloved

[dull heart]

I already knew frigidflash was broken

I just don't care to change it

[buoyant pulsar]

you are the only sane person in my vicinity

[frail owl]

meow

[frail owl]

UNI!!!!

:3

[buoyant pulsar]

mrow

[spice hound]

Pretty Pubby

[polar tide]

genuinely one of the cats of all time

[buoyant pulsar]

this is a dog

[buoyant pulsar]

i love how calamity mech progression makes excalibur 100% obsolete

i mean dont get me wrong i love calamity mech progression but its a really funny side effect

[solemn crest]

Oh yeah ig you typically just upgrade it to true Excalibur immediately

[misty wren]

actually iirc excal at a base is stronger than texcal

[solemn crest]

Is it?

[misty wren]

i think so

[versed heart]

Pretty sure True Excalibur still has a longer range, so it's not really a downgrade
of course, it's also certainly not a direct upgrade

[buoyant pulsar]

oh how i love cryophobia

genuinely such a fun weapon even if its a little niche

its so fun to use against plantera

[solemn crest]

Cryophobia is stupid. Let snow get married

[buoyant pulsar]

like, random as hell weapon i would never use in a normal playthrough

[cinder mural]

Longer range
Yes

[buoyant pulsar]

this is why i do subclass playthroughs cause they give me a reason to use weapons that are otherwise overshadowed

[cinder mural]

Not to mention you have more options to increase attack speed compared to calamity

(Since excal benefits a lot from attack speed)

[solemn crest]

Someone do the math on the DPS

[buoyant pulsar]

to whoever made transformer (assuming it was xyk), thank you so much

i've been using it since it was first available and im using it against plantera rn

this is the most fun accessory in the game

i also think plantera is one of the most fun bosses

next to providence

playing mage, my setup was gleaming magnolia for single target, then i'd switch to cryophobia for the second phase and stack up big waves

plus mixing in ion blaster for mana regen + cool strong burst attack, and transformer since she shoots a ton of projectiles and charges it up rlly fast

brainstorm is so good guys..,.

[dark coyote]

Hi guys

I wanted to post in suggestion posting channel but I don't know if my suggestion breaks a rule

[wary igloo]

thats huh

what #suggestions-discussion is for

[dark coyote]

I read the guide but I'm still unsure

Oh

Ok

Thank you

[main estuary]

you can probably ask people if it's good enough to post

[dull heart]

now pair it with slagfire douser

[buoyant pulsar]

i dont understand

[dull heart]

just try it

you'll see

assuming it wasn't fixed

[buoyant pulsar]

sighh

to installing cheat sheet i go

[dull heart]

why

just go grab slagfire from the chest

[buoyant pulsar]

cause im lazy

...i mean i could have but sunk cost fallacy (its already loading)

[dull heart]

lol

[buoyant pulsar]

this is hilarious

free needles

[solemn crest]

It’s not a bug it’s a feature

[bold quartz]

wings used to have their own buffs right

is that just gone

[spice hound]

Thats gone but like wings were now given some more variety in their flight stats or something

[bold quartz]

ok

im sad they got rid of crafting recipe for bbq ribs

[marsh garnet]

bro