calamity-update-talk

[deft lily]

copper short sword

[blazing field]

rogue when theres a being weird and bad and lame competition (99% victory rate)

[thorny glacier]

✅ ✅ ✅ ✅ ✅

[pulsar cobalt]

the plague has two colours. checkmate liberal

[tough vigil]

i like rogue

[high scaffold]

Meld is the corpse matter of pillar enemies in my headcanon

[vivid hemlock]

👆

[rare tinsel]

beaten by rang*r

[misty wren]

nuh uh

[blazing field]

i dont like rogue because everything about it feels so forced and artificial and it reminds me of those images where its like characters from the media and then the 1 very obvious self insert oc sticking out like a sore thumb

[pulsar cobalt]

the 1% is mage because of mana

[tough vigil]

sometimes i feel like most people hate every class but melee

[frail owl]

genesis pickaxe was once an upgrade to the lunar pickaxes

[deft lily]

ive never played rogue

[misty wren]

i hate melee more than any other class ❤️

[deft lily]

idt i ever will

[vivid hemlock]

melee is a lost cause i couldnt care less anymore 😊

[hasty tangle]

article 3, section 5, paragraph 2 of the Calamity Discord Server Constitution clearly states:
"...and all users to be entitled to vehemently abhor a class of their choosing, regardless of any reasoning or rationale, or lack thereof."

[fluid spruce]

melee sucks

[rare tinsel]

No I hate melee

[grim pecan]

untrue. i hate every class equally

[blazing field]

i dont really dislike any of the 4 main classes i am equally indifferent to all of them

[grim pecan]

equal opportunity hater

[rare tinsel]

True melee is the only class I don’t want to maul to death

[fluid spruce]

rogue 1st

[blazing field]

i dont really like them in particular either they just kinda exist

[tough vigil]

it has an interesting gameplay loop and an amount of clunk that amuses me without making me actively perturbed

[rare tinsel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/412104907550621708/1430713935186628648/6ooDk1f.gif

So many wrong opinions wtf

[high scaffold]

Tbh 2.1 kinda made it a bit better, also 2.2 is adding more cool rogue stuff and then also the other future plans

[blazing field]

the gameplay isnt distinct enough for me to bother caring much about which is better or worse

[frail owl]

holy shit it's the lizard guy

hai

[pseudo vector]

the only class i'm particularly attached to and enjoy more than any other now is mage

[rare tinsel]

🦎

[tough vigil]

that tracks

[blazing field]

its mostly a matter of just whatever specific weapons or gear you want to use uz the clsses themselves are fundamnetally almost the same for the most part

[pseudo vector]

i like melee too but mage is more my speed

[fluid spruce]

WHY IS HEALER SO BROKEN

[pulsar cobalt]

mage is my least favourite class because its the only class gimmick that. actively hurts the class. and does nothing else.

[pseudo vector]

healer isn't a calamity class lol

[deft lily]

ive only ever played melee in terraria

[tough vigil]

i hope they never change stealths fucked up damage scaling i like it too much

[grim pecan]

you should do another playthrough with mage ngl, the 2.2 changes totally overhaul it

[pseudo vector]

they do???

[high scaffold]

Because its a thorium class?

[tough vigil]

just make it more evident that its fucked up like that

[deft lily]

ive never really had an interest in the other classes tbh

[blazing field]

i'm not even sure what about rogue in particular makes it feel so forced to me

[high scaffold]

We got a melee only player here, boo him
Booo

[tough vigil]

probably the on screen Bar Meter that you have to constantly factor into how you attack

[deft lily]

[tough vigil]

its the only one where you wont just mash/hold click

unless youre doing spam but like cmooooon

[grim pecan]

melee - you

[deft lily]

i love melee i will die on this hill

[blazing field]

maybe its the fact it dosent have a pillar and instead has like. a sorta not really fragment that also crafts a bunc of other shit. maybe its the fact theres like 30 new one off accessories for rogue that have no reason to even be rogue. maybe its the fact its just thrower but again

[grim pecan]

that was sent early but its funnier that way ngl

[misty wren]

its really really funny how broken thorium gear is when you consider calamity's philosophy of "i must be the biggest guy in the modpack fuck you"

[blazing field]

theres just so much jnak surrounding it

[deft lily]

all of you can get bent!!!!!!!!!!

[tough vigil]

i mean every class kind of needs somethjng to distinguish it as its own thing

[misty wren]

I HATE THE NON-ROGUE MELD CRAFTS GRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[tough vigil]

if it was just guy who throws this is just ranged again thats why redigit summarily executed thrower

it had nothijng and was just ranged

stealth gives it a distinct mechanic to make it not just Another Flavour Of Projectile

[blazing field]

all classes r kinda the same with a semi negligible gimmick that makes them different im not really complaining about that i just think rogues existence is jank and weird and clearly was just inserted in because how dare they remove thrower or whatever

[tough vigil]

in the same way ranged has ammo, mage has mana and melee has the ability to pretend its supposed to be using melee weapons

[blazing field]

i dont really care much about the gmaeplay itself cuz again i hardly feel like classes are ever different enough for me to look at one and go

wow this is so much more fun

[misty wren]

as weapons they're fine but they shouldnt be meld

[tough vigil]

its rly weird to me

heres the rogue variant of fragments sorta but not really cuz equal attention weapons for the main 3

[high scaffold]

I love non-rogue meld crafts with my whole heart

[blazing field]

rogue's gimmick does still feel ultimatelyk inda shallow to me because really the ghameplay isnt that different from any other class. but this is like a issue ofr everything

if youre using spam thrower youre just shooting things, but they go fast

if youre using stealth thrower youre just shooting things, but it goes slow

[tough vigil]

i dont agree its the only one where you jusr dont hold click

[blazing field]

which really is just like

the gameplay for everything

if you have a slow high damage weapon youre doing the 2nd

[tough vigil]

you have to actually like time shots and pay attention to Bar Meter

[blazing field]

if you have a faster wepaon youre doing the 1st

[tough vigil]

no im just holding click still and tracking

i have to actually think about the timing of Bar Meter

[blazing field]

like it sure is a gimmick but its kind of like all the other gimmicks where it dosent really change hte gameplay that much i dont think

[misty wren]

with them being meld its treating meld like its just another material with the quota of one weapon per class (minus summoner because fuck you summoner) which isnt something that should be done for what is ostensibly the rogue fragment equivalent

[tough vigil]

it also changes how you build your equips

because damage ups dont fuckin do anything

[high scaffold]

Oh so humble focus, focused strikes, focused flurries, focus based gear and focus changing weapons

[blazing field]

its not really like a issue per say i think its fine

its kinda designed similarly to the vanilla classes in taht sense

[tough vigil]

i dont think any other class actively just doesnt care about damage upgrades

like rogue does

[blazing field]

it has a gimmick that changes gmaeplay a bit but not thaaat much

but it makesm e think about some other modded classes ive seen and what they did to genuinely change the gameplay loop a pretty significant amount

i guess rogue is actually like probably a bit more of ai mpactful change compared ot melee, ranged and mage id say

cuz those 3 are really all basically just the same

[tough vigil]

which means the accessories you run arent gonna be like the other classes and youre gonna be looking for other benefits

[blazing field]

summoner's a bit more in line with rogue in how much it deviates

[misty wren]

vanilla fucked over mage entirely by adding mana flower

[tough vigil]

i dont even think its fucking good

i think mana potions are bait

unless its some giga sustained fire stuff like prism

[blazing field]

people talk about the mana flower alot but really i just think mage wasnt allat to begin with, atleast in temrs of like how differently it plays

[high scaffold]

Summoner is the odd kid of the terraria classes, not like everyone but that makes them kinda all that more interesting

[misty wren]

like "oh yeah your class's gimmick? yeah we're just gonna give you a bypass for that you dont have to deal with it"

[grim pecan]

true melee - go play a mod that actually has true melee friendly bosses, loser
projectile melee - you're just scared of commitment. commitment to fighting the boss, commitment to managing a resource, commitment to actually playing a fun class

flower mage - somehow even worse than projectile melee. at this point just get chatgpt to play the game for you
regen mage - ooooh look at how much better you are that you're "engaging with the class mechanic." i hope those 5 seconds of doing nothing while you wait for mana to refill gives you ample opportunity to reflect on what choices led you to this point

summoner - fuck you

spam rouge - little timmy
stealth rogue - little timmy turned 13 and is now in his edgy arc. coldsteel the hedgehog ass class

[misty wren]

no but it was at least slightly different

[pulsar cobalt]

wheres ranger

[tough vigil]

what if lil timmy was onto something with the edgelord arc though

[grim pecan]

ranger is so boring i have nothing to say about it

[rare tinsel]

The quote “You are ten years old or never matured past that point” is relevant here

[high scaffold]

Regen mages when I show them the ion blaster

[misty wren]

it at least HAD a gimmick to speak of rather than the gimmick being -25% damage permanently

[high scaffold]

Id say 2.1 did a very great job of establishing what mage realy is

[blazing field]

like even if you dont have mana flower equipped

cant you just

drink mana potions

[grave geyser]

Mana flower is not -25% damage and it’s definitely not permanent

[blazing field]

you can just pres the mana potion hotkey and drink one

[tough vigil]

i think ammo is a neat mechanic in vanilla i just also think it translates poorly to cal wanting giga unique weapon mechanics on every weapon

[grave geyser]

Yes but that takes effort

[tough vigil]

yeah but im not gonna

[cinder mural]

i like mage

specially arcane modif now

[grave geyser]

People use flower specifically to avoid that word

[blazing field]

the horrifying effort of pressing a single key

yeah im ngl i dotn see the mana flower craze

[tough vigil]

no i just dont want mana sickness

[grave geyser]

That’s a lot mid boss fight tbf

[cunning sequoia]

spoken like a true terraria player

[polar tide]

https://tenor.com/view/gatito-cat-kitty-cute-silly-cat-gif-3290956017813741423

[rare tinsel]

mage users already have their brain occupied with more complex things, like remembering to breathe

[polar tide]

mrrrwo

[tough vigil]

its automatic so you dont have to reach for a hotkey constantly for weapons that chew mana like gum

[vivid hemlock]

chud

[rare tinsel]

they can’t afford to press a button

[polar tide]

the chud wobbler

[blazing field]

just like make the mana hotkey right next to your movement keys or something

e or f or whatever

[thorny glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/gatito-cat-kitty-cute-silly-cat-gif-3290956017813741423

[grim pecan]

bind it to left click

[tough vigil]

still requires a lot more conscious thought which takes focus away from dodging

[rare tinsel]

Not possible, too complex, you have better odds at bringing democracy to Cuba

[high scaffold]

I think that ammo is as important for rangers as the weapons, but it is mostly neglected with only good ammo variety existing in vanila is darts(which were nerfed in 1.4.5 for some reason)

[cinder mural]

i disable the mana potion from the calamitas sigil, cuz

star beam rye

[misty wren]

it helped but realistically its just stapling on more gimmicks
2.1 didnt fundamentally change a whole lot about mage the only fundamental change was mana cost reduction scaling additively rather than multiplicatively

[rare tinsel]

Making mage users think is literally impossible

[tough vigil]

whatd 2.1 even do to mage ive not touched it yet

and imma be real im not reading all those patchnotes

[blazing field]

i think ammo is fun as a igmmick just because i think the aspect of customization is neat

[rare tinsel]

mana cost reduction was changed to additive instead of multiplicative

[blazing field]

mishmasing weapon and ammo and such

[rare tinsel]

oh yeah and 2.1.0 had star peam rye

[blazing field]

problem is that alot of the ammo is just not super unique or good

[misty wren]

it made mana cost reduction scale additively rather than multiplicatively, a few weapons were reworked, chaos stone and mana polarizer were reworked

[blazing field]

alot of them boil down to just

[cinder mural]

I'm a multiclass player but i like mage overall

[blazing field]

damage, more damage, damage debuff ,more damage

so your choices sometime i feel arent actually that wide

[rare tinsel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/412104907550621708/1430713935186628648/6ooDk1f.gif

[high scaffold]

The mana is the gimmick
The mage is all about "hi, heres your resource bar, do whatever you want with it, bye"

[cinder mural]

Before it got nerfed (good call btw)

[polar tide]

i hate terraria class discussions can you guys talk about something more fun, like dumb fluffy baby kittens

[rare tinsel]

or lizards

[grim pecan]

no

[cinder mural]

I still use star beam rye nonetheless

[tough vigil]

unfortunately like most of this is terraria design in general because what else would you add

[blazing field]

no i ahte dumb fluffy baby kittens discussion

[tough vigil]

like look at flasks

[rare tinsel]

imm in a pokemon ttrpg campaign and last session i caught a shiny ekans

[tough vigil]

what flasks do you honestly use

[rare tinsel]

acid venom

party

ichor

crumblez

[cinder mural]

Cursed flames

[rare tinsel]

fire

[cinder mural]

Holy flames

[rare tinsel]

cursed flames

[vivid hemlock]

30 calorie meal

[rare tinsel]

brimstone flames

[tough vigil]

most flasks are like identical

[cinder mural]

...

[rare tinsel]

NOT HOLY FLAMES fuck that one

[cinder mural]

That's a lot of fire from flasks

[tough vigil]

just various flavours of dot

that have different dps

[rare tinsel]

what about the one that slows down time and the one that increases your survivability

[cinder mural]

Well that's too fawking bad

I use that one with my perpetual burning build

[tough vigil]

thats not a thing

[high scaffold]

Flasks are kinda just there

[rare tinsel]

no, it is

[misty wren]

it is a thing actually

[polar tide]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/568192082473386020/1491678365919215678/1602134982055.gif

[tough vigil]

since when

[rare tinsel]

since Calamity buffed them

[misty wren]

since party flask

[cinder mural]

Wait

Really?

[rare tinsel]

Flask of Party causes lag which causes slowdown and SLOWS DOWN TIME

[cinder mural]

Aside from

Having drinks that increase their damage

[rare tinsel]

Flask of Venom inflicts Acid Venom which Calamity also makes reduce the victim’s contact damage by 5%, INCREASING YOUR SURVIVABILITY

[blazing field]

interesting

[rare tinsel]

it’s peak

[tough vigil]

i think your pc sucks

[rare tinsel]

flask of venom is unironically my favorite choice for Yharon

[blazing field]

an ammo type that heals you vampire knives style could be fun

[rare tinsel]

It’s most relevant on DoG since there’s 102 segments for 102x the dusts

[high scaffold]

Honestly the flask issues are more of the debuff issues with pretty much all of them being a variation of dot, defence reduction and slowness

[tough vigil]

forgot about acid venom but i feel like a lot of cal bosses are largely projectile abuse

[rare tinsel]

Bloodfire rounds do that I thinky think

Kinda

A little bit

Wait no Bloodfire arrows do that

[tough vigil]

because name a debuff thats not

[misty wren]

https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Bloodfire_Bullet

[rare tinsel]

confused from Flask of Nanobots

[tough vigil]

that matters and can be applied to bosses

[misty wren]

its life drain-core healing but still healing

[high scaffold]

Lovestruck from fargos, when the player is affected they heal the enemy that applied it instead of damaging them

[tough vigil]

ammo that alters how your shots act would be fun but i dont see cal adding those

[cinder mural]

I prefer to cook yharon alive using amalgam, elemental gauntlet, devil devastation, holy fire flask and fireball

[tough vigil]

yeah theyre not giving that to flasks

[cinder mural]

It works surprisingly well

[rare tinsel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/412104907550621708/1430713935186628648/6ooDk1f.gif

[misty wren]

https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Hyperius_Bullet

[rare tinsel]

where slime gun

where goobow

killing you

[cinder mural]

https://tenor.com/view/waah-waa-sad-wah-waaah-gif-25875771

[cinder mural]

Oh

Haven't thought of that

[rare tinsel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/671470027467259940/1461135229015294173/image0.gif

[grim pecan]

:)

[tough vigil]

the bullet itself still shoots as normal no

[cinder mural]

But isn't there a damage cap?

[rare tinsel]

no

[cinder mural]

Huh

I'll test that later

[rare tinsel]

what are you talking about ‘damage cap’

[tough vigil]

well thats encouraging to hear

[high scaffold]

Actualy, since 1.4.5 made slimed debuff double the tickrate of fire debuffs there might be more development in that direction

[rare tinsel]

what the fuck?

that’s awesome

[grim pecan]

it did??????????

[tough vigil]

huh?

[rare tinsel]

slime gun SS tier

[cinder mural]

Slime gun + 4 burning debuffs should be ridiculous

[rare tinsel]

oiled is also really good

[tough vigil]

oh that is not making it to cal lmaoooo

[tough vigil]

thats being shot fucking dead

[rare tinsel]

yeah, it is. I heard from John calamity himself.

[cinder mural]

(Shadowflame knife, cursed flames, frozen armor, magma stone, right after entering hardmode in vanilla)

[tough vigil]

theres already so many burn debuffs and ways to make them stronger this would be hilarious

[cinder mural]

the tf2 pyro build

[rare tinsel]

debuff builds are cookin rn

i think catalyst’s astrageldon is getting a heat vulnerability too

sub-3 when

[cinder mural]

fucking damn it

i hate that slime

at least

not as much as my vivid hatred against Subspace Serpent from SotS

[tough vigil]

i find it funny cal had to add an oiled icon even though it still cant be applied by enemies

bc the only weapon it was on before was a sentry which cant pvp

so redigit never made an icon

[versed heart]

Why damn it? Just because that boss was mentioned? Did you think they said a heat invulnerability?

[cinder mural]

i hate the boss xd

specially that stupid RDR when phase 2

[versed heart]

I mean yeah, you already said that part

[cinder mural]

(personal grudge, since my friend told me to play infernum as my literal first calamity playthrough, and my least dominant class, ranger, plus most addons, which i had no fucking idea on how to fight those bosses, nor a guide)

[misty wren]

geldon doesnt even do anything with infernum it has zero changes

[cinder mural]

it was

my literal first playthrough

[versed heart]

Same with most addon bosses

[cinder mural]

and i didn't know anything

0 knowledge

[versed heart]

Aside from base Terraria?

[cinder mural]

which resulted in

300-400 deaths against inf DoG
200 deaths from astrageldon
150 from both old duke and polterghast because fuck you in particular, desp phase

[cinder mural]

no, i've been playing terraria since mobile 1.0 was released

thing is

0 knowledge about modded

[versed heart]

yeah, there are much better mods and modpacks to get started with than a pack centered around difficult bosses

[cinder mural]

and motherfucker throw me from somewhat of a chill experience with terraria to total ragequit

i hated every single second of that playthrough

i'll be honest

even one time that i managed to lower astrageldon to 2nd phase but died before phase transition

which end up in not unlocking second phase from the item

[versed heart]

I could honestly see Infernum being bearable as a first time experience with Calamity, IF you've already played a bunch of other mods with really difficult bosses. At the same time... who seriously does that?

[cinder mural]

i ragequitted i think more than 20 times that playthrouh alone

[cinder mural]

the only mod i played before cal infernum
was thorium

[versed heart]

But in a case like yours, that's just begging to be an awful experience for anyone who's not a masochist

[cinder mural]

which isn't even remotely close to whatever the fuck is infernum

i stopped playing infernum as a whole

after like, 3 playthroughs with it and 2 from infernal eclipse of ragnarok

(i do not recommend that modpack)

[opaque plume]

terraria modpacks as a whole seem like a dumb idea

terraria and minecraft are pretty different games just because minecraft has modpacks doesn't mean terraria should

[cinder mural]

there's one that's like 100 mods in a single pack

most of them are just resource pack/shaders and shit

(plus stinks above)

[misty wren]

terraria modpacks can work you just need to do a lot of work to make the mods work together

[versed heart]

I guess this is Update talk, so I'll say that I hope base Calamity in the future won't fall into a remotely similar case as hardmode/late Infernum in difficulty. Specifically, where every boss is so difficult that you need to adapt a ton just to beat a single boss, like 8 times in a row, which gets exhausting
Extreme difficulty does indeed have a place, I think extremely difficult challenges should be reserved for rare and/or practically completely voluntary situations. Unless it's supposed to be a rage game or something, where the exhaustion and frustration's the point.

[cinder mural]

vaethyr

that mod pack

[misty wren]

you cant treat terraria modding like mc modding either, so it has to be 1 or 2 major content mods and then everything else has to be smaller stuff that doesnt add a whole lot

[cinder mural]

yep

[pseudo vector]

chances are calamity might end up easier in the future than it is right now, personally speaking i want to attempt to put an end to the egregious difficulty creep and prioritise enjoyment over difficulty - there are definitely cases where difficulty can play into how fun something is to me, but there are a lot of cases currently where that simply is not the case

[pulsar cobalt]

i think bosses will be more difficult overall in the future because from what i see a lot of devs dont like how every boss has the same core strategy and obviously if u cant use the same strategies for every boss itll be more difficult since youll be learning different stuff

ie bocs illusion attack is difficult because it is so different to what you regularly do to counter an attack (which is dodge it)

it requires an entirely different skill

[pseudo vector]

i think the bosses requiring different approaches will definitely make things more interesting going forward

requiring more overall knowledge and understanding over brute forcing it with the same old and eventually winning

[polar tide]

i think a pill im finding difficult to swallow that im realizing is that i jusr dont really like terraria's movement or combat compared to other games lol

[pulsar cobalt]

yea it is very different

[pseudo vector]

unfortuantely we are kind of limited to some extent due to having terraria as a base

[pulsar cobalt]

this is usually brought up for wrong reasons usually but i will actually bring this up because i think it is somewhat correct

like bullet hell games, in terraria there is no cost to attacking

[pseudo vector]

like you mentioned with brain, the illusion attacks test your memory and try to deceive you rather than just being a "good luck dodging lmao" fight

yeah there's a lot of dodging involved, but its in a way that's very different to its peers

and the memory stuff is a whole new thing entirely to the fight

[polar tide]

that is somethinf 2 consider in terraria you're expected to be doing constant damage to the boss and it's not like impossible to make modded fights that deviate from that but its weeeirddd

tbhe only modded fight i know of that deviates from that is wotg mars and no offense to wotg team at all obviously but i really, really hate mars

[grim pecan]

also if you want over the top difficulty play malice

[pseudo vector]

and yeah that

malice is there if you want it, but its a miserable experience

[rotund venture]

you do? I found it incredibly fun and also quite a spectacle

[polar tide]

i hate mars for many reasons unrelated to its gameplay but when it comes to gameplay i think i disliked it because of how, again, i dont really like how terraria movement feels to begin with

especially aerial movement

[pseudo vector]

i personally am not the biggest fan of mars either, he's cool looking and the fight presentation wise is nice, but mechanically its kind of irritating and it can go on FOREVER

[polar tide]

yeah

[rotund venture]

it does drag on a bit that's fair

[pseudo vector]

also i'm realising this is the first time i've spoken here in a minute

hi

[rotund venture]

henlo

[polar tide]

hi

[rotund venture]

I gotta say I find it kinda odd that sometimes devs will straight up say they don't enjoy certain aspects of terraria

[polar tide]

how is that odd

[charred mauve]

whats wrong with no enjoying certain aspects of terraria

[rotund venture]

I'm not saying it's wrong

[pseudo vector]

just because we make stuff for it, doesn't mean we enjoy every single thing about terraria

its definitely a flawed game

[rotund venture]

yeah of course

[polar tide]

are we supposed 2 have nothing but praise for terraria just cuz we make a mod for it

[versed heart]

I mean, isn't there a saying about how the biggest fans of something having the biggest problems with something or something along the lines of that? This isn't that unique

[pseudo vector]

yeah its got a lot of things going for it that make it good, but its not perfect by any means

[charred mauve]

i think brain of cthulhu is significantly harder than eater of worlds now

[polar tide]

i feel like people who program and or test terraria mods are in the best position to be crticizing terraria

[rotund venture]

of course but there's a difference between critisizing and saying "I do not enjoy this part of the game"

[grave geyser]

I both agree and dissagree with making the mod easier

I think rev I agree somewhat

death I'm more dubius on (if anything I kinda think it should be harder but shh)

[rotund venture]

like there are parts of the game that I am aware are not very good

but I don't think there's ever been something that I actively did not enjoy

[grave geyser]

but ultimately yes fun goes above all else

[charred mauve]

there are thinsg other people actively do not enjoy

[versed heart]

Harder than old Death Master or harder than old Expert Death?

[grave geyser]

harder than old exdeath, which itself was notorious for barely feeling like a difficulty increase

[rotund venture]

I guess I'm saying I find it odd that you're creating content for a game that you do not enjoy every aspect of to at least some degree

not saying there's anything wrong with it ofc

just odd imo

[misty wren]

not really

people do that a lot

[charred mauve]

well the content created can change the game to make it so that part of the game is enjoyable

and previously wasnt

[misty wren]

they see parts of the game they dislike and BECAUSE of that they make content that either patches that up so they do like it or make the rest of the game better

[dull heart]

Terraria was better in 1.0.5 tbh tbh

Insert Roots promo here

[versed heart]

Also, it doesn't seem likely for someone to find some game they're passionate enough about to do quite a bit of modding for, but never notice anything they don't like despite the time they take on it

[misty wren]

and for a game like terraria with so many weird and/or extraneous parts there are a lot of things that are easy to dislike

[polar tide]

"No progress can be made without a desire that comes from dissatisfaction."

[charred mauve]

yeah

like the vanilla mech bosses

i dont like them

[rotund venture]

there are things in terraria that I think could be way better but nothing that's like

unenjoyable to me, I guess?

[cunning sequoia]

moon lord

queen slime

[rotund venture]

might be rose-tinted glasses

[cunning sequoia]

events in general

[charred mauve]

i think that the ore progression in hardmode is not enjoyable

[misty wren]

id also add king slime onto that list

[cunning sequoia]

true

very nothing boss

[versed heart]

King Slime is kinda like Deerclops, except it doesn't discourage you from running away and has slime minions instead of the hands

[cunning sequoia]

i really dont like how mage is like currently

[misty wren]

early hardmode in vanilla is quite rage inducing for me personally

[polar tide]

i think my draedon quote sums it up fine but also the reason i love calamity has way more to do with the characters and the world and the story than it has to do with the gameplay itself

[cunning sequoia]

mana is a terribly treated gimmick

[misty wren]

i dont mind it being a difficulty spike but the difficulty spike going into hardmode really is just a you're back in preboss territory

[pulsar cobalt]

im convinced red comes home to beat up mana specifically. not mage. just mana

such a nothing mechanic

[cunning sequoia]

"hey lets limit mage by making its weapons more powerful but forcing the player to stop attacking every few seconds or lose out on damage"

it worked in like 1.0

but now

mana just makes mage flat out worse

[dull heart]

I have seen a similar take with fanfiction actually

[pulsar cobalt]

it worked in 1.0 because "mage" didnt really exist

[pseudo vector]

i’ve been playing a lot of monster hunter recently and the feeling of pre-hardmode -> hardmode is basically the exact same sort of feeling as going from low rank -> high rank

[cunning sequoia]

because it wasnt considered with balancing

[charred mauve]

what do you suggest?

[cunning sequoia]

yeah

[pulsar cobalt]

it was just "mana using items"

[charred mauve]

you cant just remove mana

[pulsar cobalt]

u can actually

[dull heart]

Media that's too good people don't write fanfic for because it's already perfect

Media that's too bad people don't write fanfic for because it's not interesting to do so

Media in the middle gets all the fanfic

[charred mauve]

well then it would just be ranger

[cunning sequoia]

if you remove mana, mage just becomes worse melee

but it

[pulsar cobalt]

mana flower pot literally removes mana as a gimmick

[charred mauve]

if you remove mana it becomes ammoless ranger

[cunning sequoia]

already is worse melee

itd just be slightly less worse

[charred mauve]

no, mana sickness

is still there

[pulsar cobalt]

and you ignore it

[cunning sequoia]

mana sickness also exists to just make mage worse

[charred mauve]

and in doing so the class sucks

[pulsar cobalt]

no its still on par with other classes

[charred mauve]

not with -50% damage

[polar tide]

this is severely incorrect there is tons and tons of warrior cats fanfiction precisely because its a big steaming pile of fucking garbage and for over 2 decades now the fandoms favorite pastime has been sitting in a circle and going "what if this didn't suck ass"

[pulsar cobalt]

you wont be at -50% with most weapons

[polar tide]

unless by "too bad" you mean like. literally nothing even remotely redeemable

[pulsar cobalt]

and anyways, mage is balanced around having mana flower

[charred mauve]

you mean like

to ignore it copm-pletely

[pulsar cobalt]

so like. its still the same strength.

[charred mauve]

just hold down the attack button

[grim pecan]

shoutout to like the. 5 authors of raid shadow legends fanfic

[cunning sequoia]

we just need game theory videos for calamity to make people write fanfics

[grim pecan]

y'all are god's stronger soldiers

[cunning sequoia]

its that shrimple

[polar tide]

ive been writing calamity fanfiction i just dont post it ever because erm embarrassing

[dull heart]

I mean like genuinely terrible

[grim pecan]

is it really fanfic at this point

[earnest jewel]

On it boss, how about;
"Is Draedon Ness?"

[polar tide]

calamity fanfic doesnt exist because people who want to write calamity fanfic just become devs

[cunning sequoia]

fiction.

[dull heart]

so true oomfie

[cunning sequoia]

roy is calamity fanfiction

[earnest jewel]

Hey, Ozzatron never responds to my offers.
Something about "Deerclops will never be canon" or something.

[pulsar cobalt]

this is not true because i have a fanfic that only exists in my head and im not a dev

[polar tide]

loser

[pulsar cobalt]

what the fuck

[earnest jewel]

Nerd.

[cunning sequoia]

this is living, breathing proof that calamity fanfiction exists

[dull heart]

you have no proof you're not a dev

[cunning sequoia]

but its rude to vaguepost about somebody who's listening

[blazing field]

https://tenor.com/view/afton-ending-afton-five-nights-at-freddys-security-breach-five-nights-at-freddys-michael-afton-gif-24229845

[cunning sequoia]

https://tenor.com/view/springtrap-five-nights-at-freddy's-springlock-failure-fnaf-gif-15872712012781687992

[barren nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/gaster-disappear-gasterpeared-undertale-gif-23212822

[dull heart]

me when I vague posted about forcing "the new tester" to test something while crit was in chat

[arctic cliff]

incredible

[tropic jolt]

[barren nacelle]

Doze I’ll test aaaaall your weapons 🥺

[mystic eagle]

Xyk let me test your weapons

[barren nacelle]

(I’m really excited to try profaned partisan rework(

[tropic jolt]

the bite of 67

[mystic eagle]

You're getting cancelled

[prisma cipher]

Agreed

[tropic jolt]

the bite of 26(7)

[dusty tinsel]

/cancel @tropic jolt

[tropic jolt]

[dusty tinsel]

Cyver has been cancelled

[dull heart]

okay what on earth

I was playing chaos zero nightmare and the draedon laugh sfx played

calamity gacha game...

[lyric trellis]

Coming soon

[dusty tinsel]

Which draedon laugh? Like the one at the end of that one DM dokoro's video?

[polar tide]

dm dokoro

[lean relic]

hi

[hot knot]

draedon laughing is an actual sound effect in cal

[dusty tinsel]

Oh

I didn't know that

[earnest jewel]

"Tee hee."
-Draedon.

[dusty tinsel]

Tbf I haven't really played much of calamity

[lean relic]

What

[hot knot]

somewhere in the exos fight

[dusty tinsel]

I only got to deus in my longest playthrough

[hot knot]

and also kinda heard upon installing the auric cooling cell

ah makes sense

[tropic jolt]

heartwarming, calamity fan fights their favorite boss for the first time

[dusty tinsel]

When I think of draedon laugh I just remember the draedon is a god laugh at the end of perforators music video 😂

Back when him being a god was a thing

[earnest jewel]

WHEN WAS THAT A THING!?

[pulsar cobalt]

old old lore

or maybe old old old lore i dont remember

[earnest jewel]

Pre-Alien!?

[dusty tinsel]

Yes

[misty wren]

yeah pre alien

[cunning sequoia]

that was like

[earnest jewel]

A fourth god has hit the old lore.

[cunning sequoia]

draedon bars days

[dull heart]

The one in game

[pulsar cobalt]

he was gonna physically fight u back then btw

instead of having mechs

[misty wren]

yeah

[tropic jolt]

silly little guy

[dusk bronze]

i found it

[cunning sequoia]

lmao

[dense sundial]

Idk if you can say that without it being an offense. But it’s okay because we don’t like Mars either

[earnest jewel]

That's meant to be a laugh?

[dusk bronze]

it sounds better ingame

[polar tide]

kill him

[misty wren]

the plan was im pretty sure draedon has his own fight but then also andromeda at that point in time

[dense sundial]

Mars is kinda rough around the edges and the lamest derivative imaginable

[earnest jewel]

I know that sound effect I never thought it was a laugh.

[dense sundial]

Way ahead of you!

[polar tide]

i love draedon's laugh he's my little goofy goober

[dusty tinsel]

This was before the whole deadelus blew himself up timeline to stop draedon from acquiring his knowledge also

[dense sundial]

WotG2 will replace Mars with something completely original and much better polished

[polar tide]

YIPPEE!!!

[misty wren]

well yeah that was just old lore

[earnest jewel]

Finally, Ares.

[lyric trellis]

Andromeda 🔥

[misty wren]

that was a thing up until the rewrite

[dusty tinsel]

Andromeda is still in the game

Just not as it once was gonna be

[misty wren]

androomba is in the game

[dusk bronze]

remember how in old lore yharim just rode dog to a random ass planet and found draedon sitting on a rock by pure coincidence with zero explanation

[dusty tinsel]

Isn't the mech suit called Andromeda

[dusk bronze]

that was fire

[dusty tinsel]

Or is that androomba

[misty wren]

yeah

[polar tide]

this is actually hysterical we should bring this back

[misty wren]

oh that

[earnest jewel]

It was the Draedon rock, obviously.

[dusk bronze]

the flamsteed ring robot is andromeda yes

[earnest jewel]

Wasn't it a giant flying base?

Oh, wait, the other thing.

[dense sundial]

Yharim didn’t come with him, just told him to go find something

But yeah

[tropic jolt]

wait this is peak

[earnest jewel]

I thought the giant flying base idea was cool.

[arctic cliff]

ngl im actually more used to draedon being an alien than being somehow from this world

i mean

[earnest jewel]

I'm sure he did.

[arctic cliff]

just LOOK at him

[dusty tinsel]

Old lore yharim when he broke his arm super slamming jungle council to death

[misty wren]

ok also theres something about how draedon found yharim

because he had a spaceship

[arctic cliff]

he looks genuinely like an alien robot rather than somehow being a machine made by some guy on this planet

[polar tide]

draedon designed his own body

lol

[earnest jewel]

Draedon is just quirky like that.

[misty wren]

also apparently in old lore plague and exos were made around the same time

[dusty tinsel]

Every time I see draedon I go ah yes one gust of wind will kill him forgetting he is like 15 ft tall

[hasty tangle]

why is draedon humanoid anyway

is the human form really the best one out there?

[earnest jewel]

Because he wants to?

[hot knot]

considering his unexplained sizable stature i can see your point

[lyric trellis]

Peak lore

[dusk bronze]

probably slightly better for interacting with people

[polar tide]

i like to think he was inspired by the dead person he woke up next 2 and thats why he has a weirdly human looking spine and shit

[arctic cliff]

btw ya'll should just look through the calamity wiki's concept art
https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Concept_art#Bosses-0

[earnest jewel]

He probably has dozens upon dozens of different forms.

[earnest jewel]

Woefully empty.

[dusk bronze]

😔

[misty wren]

The Jungle Plague was made by Yharim and Draedon in collaboration, as a combination of a relentless virus capable of devouring and converting everything and nanomachines designed to control anything. Was it practical? No holy shit this is fucking hilarious i love the old lore doc

[dusk bronze]

oh lord

what's that

[polar tide]

SCREAMMMM

[arctic cliff]

ya'll looking through concept art is a great thing in general ngl

[hard copper]

thats a false draedon, this is the real one

[earnest jewel]

The Jungle Tyrant made the Jungle Plague with the suprisingly non-jungle robot alien thing.

[earnest jewel]

What will the Jungle Dragon think?

[arctic cliff]

Nova... was a redesigned Astral Head?

holy shit

[dusty tinsel]

What is this

[lyric trellis]

Astral head such a good enemy

[arctic cliff]

that was a boss from a terraria mod

[hot knot]

croissan

[arctic cliff]

im dead serious im pretty sure i saw a video of someone fighting it

[polar tide]

why would i ever do this concept art is lame and gay

[hot knot]

evil lookin croissant

[dusk bronze]

also remember when calamitas found out about her clone and summoned golem to escape, and yharim's army destroyed it

but then you still fight it years later like nothing happened

[arctic cliff]

it was... iirc, called "O.L.O.R.D."

[dusk bronze]

O.L.O.R.D from the qwerty mod

[dusty tinsel]

Golem is a god obviously it just respawned itself

[hot knot]

how did it behave i’ll ask

[arctic cliff]

it was... WEIRD

[earnest jewel]

And as punishment the guy who can't do magic used magic to curse her into being an eye and also make her unable to leave him or something.

[dusk bronze]

it hovers stationary above you and puts down walls

basically it's the arena

[dusty tinsel]

Nothing said yharim couldn't do magic

[arctic cliff]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjIP1Muva9E

[dusty tinsel]

He just had a very limited knowledge of it from his training with permafrost

Given he trapped the guy in that timeline

[earnest jewel]

Permafrost refused to train him. So he used magic to trap him.
He wanted to train with Permafrost because he didn't know magic.

[dusk bronze]

ah, of course

[dusty tinsel]

You can know magic, but not know magic

That's what a dnd sorcerer is

They have magic, but generally have no clue what they are doing with it /j

[earnest jewel]

Yharim was Yharim class.

[hot knot]

that’s

[tropic jolt]

trapped permafrost in the table dimension

[hot knot]

interesting

[dusty tinsel]

Who would win in a fight yharim or yharim

[arctic cliff]

okay this is outdated, there's a video showing a later version of this mod with a resprited olord

[hot knot]

was it different by much

[earnest jewel]

Yharim I think.

[tropic jolt]

yharim kicks yharhim in the crotch and wins immediately

[dusty tinsel]

Old lore yharim vs new lore yharim

[earnest jewel]

Yharim.

For sure.

[dusk bronze]

no i think yharim would win actually

[dusty tinsel]

I am deep-frying you

Both of you

[earnest jewel]

Please, Yharim would wipe the floor with Yharim!

[dusk bronze]

nuh uh

[hot knot]

[dusk bronze]

yharim clears

[earnest jewel]

THE HELL DO YOU MEAN NUH UH!?

[grim pecan]

nuh uh

[pulsar cobalt]

i solo yharim

[tropic jolt]

wait who is yharim again

[dusty tinsel]

I am forcing both of you to listen to Friday by Rebecca black on repeat for the rest of your lives non stop

[hasty tangle]

yharim deez nuts

lmao gottem

[dusk bronze]

🔥

[grim pecan]

halfway throught the fight yharim is going to turn to the screen and say "terrarian... you must know... i am multiversal+.... i beat goku..."

[hot knot]

yharim got an upper hand over yharim cause he lacks morals

[cunning sequoia]

Gosrim

Gos seeker

[tropic jolt]

yharim installed dragon ball terraria

[dusk bronze]

skyrim

yharim if he was chrysonai

[hot knot]

hollynight

[earnest jewel]

Yharim has Yharon, while Yharim only has Yharon.

[hot knot]

true

[polar tide]

https://tenor.com/view/extremelyepichvhboy-gif-27111459

[spice hound]

Aww how cute such a sweet little swine

[arctic cliff]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1381707853278220472/1481734293758935234/a635db1a-6a62-4366-93f5-1c5a43dabf48.gif

[spice hound]

Imagine if like in getfixedboi they give horrible hog like duke fishron ai

[arctic cliff]

no

they add the Horrible Hog Rider Commander Gaius

[hard hearth]

hog ridaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[arctic cliff]

oh god this is actually a horrible gif im not leaving that up

someone spent time and effort to create that

fine this will do

for those unaware, this boss is genuinely horrible btw nobody likes fighting this guy

[spice hound]

Actually horrible hog mount would go hard

[pulsar cobalt]

hope this piggy stays golden and grows up to have divine behaviour instead of a horrible attitude 🙏

[polar tide]

https://tenor.com/view/animals-fauna-pets-cute-piggy-gif-14851836

baby pig so cute

[spice hound]

Such a golden soul this one has

[dense sundial]

The charge hitbox is literally his only real problem

Assuming I can figure out how to dodge or prevent the remote stalagmite heave thing

[arctic cliff]

" Though the Blood Moon's hordes rarely could put up effort against my blade, it was on one bloody night, that I had the horrible luck of encountering an undead riding an exceedingly large boar."

[spice hound]

I can’t wait for the calamity movie where jack black as calamitas says “horrible hog jockey!”

[arctic cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/kerbal-ksp-ksp2-kerbalspaceprogram-kerbalspaceprogram2-gif-26708100

[tropic jolt]

🥓

[spice hound]

Noo don’t make them into bacon you monster

[tropic jolt]

if I dont we will starve

[thorn pier]

dont starve

[spice hound]

Together

[tropic jolt]

what is this some sort of constant

[spice hound]

How would you like it though if I turned you into bacon

[tropic jolt]

does it save a starving child

[spice hound]

No it goes to middle class families barbeque

[tropic jolt]

hmm

maybe the bacon will inspire them to do great things

[split ginkgo]

get eaten by an alien

[echo pier]

The malice DoG fight is so cool

omg, will malice mode give similar treatments to all other bosses in future updates?

[polar tide]

https://tenor.com/view/seal-seals-fat-seal-seal-retract-scare-seal-gif-4879500682255135297

[echo pier]

Water dog

[arctic cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/get-kissed-idiot-seals-seal-seals-kissing-kissing-gif-7885839675729674459

[tropic jolt]

seal the deal

[tropic jolt]

no

[polar tide]

https://tenor.com/view/seal-seals-cute-seal-silly-seal-fell-off-gif-5542952418643008612

[tropic jolt]

frozen hogs

[urban cloak]

evil calamity mod where ilmeris was frozen instead of incinerated

[hard copper]

permafrost froze ilmeris and calamitas gets stuck in pyrogen

[dusk bronze]

whiteout eventually

[tropic jolt]

asdfghjkl

[spice hound]

would evil calamity mod have the wormwindyday update and the upcoming Swine serenity updates

[dusk bronze]

it would have the yharim update

[spice hound]

They actually have the false melee subclass

[terse dew]

Blizzard on 26/26/26

😁

only 1 month away

[dusk bronze]

[tough vigil]

getfixedboi should rename ranged damage to false melee

[rare tinsel]

PLEASE

PLEASRE

also rename melee to fake melee

only TRUE melee remains

[fathom girder]

Mage is cool melee

[opaque plume]

why are we sealposting without me

[rare tinsel]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-13089159366747320512

[polar tide]

https://tenor.com/view/seal-white-seal-cute-adorable-seal-adorable-gif-17879744

[arctic cliff]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1054268609733611560/1319380832372260955/attachment.gif

[solemn crest]

Calamity but it’s all me

[spice hound]

You’ve solved the content bloat your a genius

[cinder mural]

i never understood why the ceremonial urn never required clay to be made

[spice hound]

Urns are made of clay aren’t they

[opaque plume]

https://tenor.com/view/seal-fish-eating-kiss-gif-4265427435063696043

its greed sickens me

[cinder mural]

yeah

[frail owl]

nom

[buoyant pulsar]

finishes eating the fish then tries to eat YOU

[arctic cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/tf2-team-fortress-2-spy-horse-gif-15137495079021881626

[buoyant pulsar]

if i was the medic i'd be scared too

[arctic cliff]

yknow its bad enough when the medic is scared

[cinder mural]

SPY IS A HORSE!

Screams and dies

[deft lily]

🐴

[spice hound]

Quit your horsing around

[polar tide]

https://tenor.com/view/curious-pig-piglet-piggy-blinking-gif-22486284

[deft lily]

no way its a giraffe

[polar tide]

https://tenor.com/view/tamandua-anteater-not-a-pet-baby-animals-gif-26464825

i am addicted to baby Animals

[deft lily]

the rat of all time

[polar tide]

https://tenor.com/view/efn-duck-duckling-ducky-cuddle-duck-gif-15366547007459117713

[deft lily]

💖

[frail owl]

is that an opossum?

[modern grove]

Looks like a baby anteater

[molten grove]

yeah thats a baby ant eater

[polar tide]

youre a baby anteater

[long escarp]

Can there not be a grape beer nerf for like, a couple more weeks at least 🙏
I wanna play with it prenerf but end of semester I've gotta lock in on school work

Thanks dev team

[solar hare]

alright

[drifting furnace]

Hi guys how are you? 😄

[modern grove]

So horrible I could kill a hog

[modern grove]

Mista breast

[kindred night]

No

[shut granite]

can we add a moose boss to calamity

[spice hound]

If you squint deerclops could be a moose

[solemn crest]

If you squint it gets harder to see

[spice hound]

If you close one eye entirely and someone looks at you and squints your eyes you’d kinda look like deerclops herself

[spice hound]

What are the currently planned biome that are potentially going to be added to calamity mod that we have knowledge of right now.

[main estuary]

mooseclops texture pack

[polar tide]

not biomes but distortion (subworld) and dragon aerie (also subworld)

[earnest jewel]

Add the Pig Pen Biome.

[solemn crest]

2.5 hours with IT got me feelin like hog IV drip

[dusty tinsel]

Profaned biome

[solar hare]

horse biome

[main estuary]

elumphant biome

[raw pendant]

Perennial is getting a biome i thought

[dusty tinsel]

All biomes are being cancelled obviously/j

Biomeless terraria

It's just blocks without grass

[vivid hemlock]

whos perennial

[dusty tinsel]

You

[vivid hemlock]

no im owner

[dusty tinsel]

Owner biome

Every block is just vanillas face

[frail owl]

john perennial

[versed heart]

Who's to say you are and just forgot 🤔

[vivid hemlock]

😨

[solemn crest]

Will there be auric horses?

[grave geyser]

Auric glue

[polar tide]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitten-kitty-cute-adorable-gif-17677890

[half lava]

https://tenor.com/view/cute-cat-kitten-trying-to-get-up-struggle-gif-23584320

[polar tide]

sweet little baby shithead

[pulsar cobalt]

single celled organism 💞 🥰

[frail owl]

shithead!!!!

[half lava]

the dumbass ❤️

[grave rock]

Hog today for sure

[half lava]

No...

the hog is not ready to reveal itself...

[frail owl]

[half lava]

Phog

[frail owl]

P hog

[half lava]

Me...

[halcyon seal]

Has anyone made a calamity version of the MrBeast scam images yet

[lapis oak]

DraeGPT generate me a calamity version of the MrBeast scam images

[high scaffold]

Actualy, calamity already kinda has one "whip"

Cnidarian has tag damage and also receives whip range modifiers

[dull heart]

peak..

[high scaffold]

Actualy such a peak weapon

[distant raft]

what about profaned crystal whip

[high scaffold]

Doesnt exist

[opaque plume]

rock item description is so good its my status now

When the battle was finally over, the dust having just began to settle
Where even the stone refused the course of time, there sat a monk
Who dared to question history and stare into fate
'What is the true price of the past being ever eternal?
Why must our future forever haunt us?'

i assume that quote is xeroc speaking

[cunning sequoia]

its describing xeroc at least

but yeah the quote in the description is xeroc

[solemn crest]

Could it be describing the moments just after Zeratros’s death? That’s kinda what it seems like to me

[cunning sequoia]

i think it's rather after moon lord's sealing

as in this is xeroc contemplating the dragons' ability to protect the world

[muted kestrel]

If zeroc is released would the boss rush be scrapped

xerox

[amber egret]

the boss rush probably could exist but in a far more refined manner

[west isle]

when r we making angler quests reset instantly so that grinding for the enchantd sun dial isnt as bad

[amber egret]

get a QoL mod for that

[muted kestrel]

kinda had a dream a few months ago that theboss rush had a rework where all the bosses were resprited as like the dark grey and pink color scheme of the boss rush covered in rocks or something

[west isle]

if im alr running QOL mods to make angler quests reset instantly why wouldnt i just get one that gives me a time switcher

[amber egret]

why wouldnt you !

[muted kestrel]

and also yharim was there for some reason

[west isle]

and by that logic why would the cosmolight need to exist when QOL mods can just do it for you

[pulsar cobalt]

this sounds like 2018 calamity

[amber egret]

bc the game is very fight focused and needs you to have time switching on the hand

beds work

[west isle]

beds still take time

[muted kestrel]

didnt the oldest slime god sprite make him have chicken pox

[muted kestrel]

i have a mod that can alter bed speed rate

[muted kestrel]

not sure what it was claled

but it can go up to 100x

[solemn crest]

What stage of the game you at?

[muted kestrel]

also doesnt the cosmolight accelrate time now

[west isle]

playing hardcore so it kinda changes from time to time

[solemn crest]

Yes, and you can freeze time indefinitely

[muted kestrel]

oh cool

[solemn crest]

Hardcore with no QoL? Absolute madman

[muted kestrel]

that sounds quite like a calamity to have to play

[west isle]

well no major QOL at least

[solemn crest]

Say that again…

[muted kestrel]

that again...

[west isle]

still have stuff like magic storage n ore excavator but stuff like inf potions is off the table

[muted kestrel]

it took a lot to brainstorm that line

[solemn crest]

[muted kestrel]

but when i did it was a bountiful harvest

it was quite a hellish harbour /

[solemn crest]

I’d just download a customizable QoL mod like Quality of Terraria or something tbh

[opaque plume]

my idea for how boss rush could be more interesting is if it had like

boss combos

like mecha mayhem

[muted kestrel]

draedon update

[west isle]

what would i use it for if im not using major QOL

[solemn crest]

The fishing quests

[distant raft]

quality of terraria is as balanced or as broken as you want it to be

[west isle]

fair enough

[distant raft]

hell you can set the infinite potion requirement to fucking 9999

or as low as 15

or off

[west isle]

10*

[distant raft]

there's not a single thing in the mod you can't turn on or off

[solemn crest]

-# if only ceaseless hunger worked as an infinite potion…

[west isle]

QOL compendium magnet

[muted kestrel]

just eat the ceasless void

[solemn crest]

But I like QoT

[solemn crest]

It tastes like _____________

[west isle]

still as i was saying if they want u to fish for the enchanted sundial to craft the cosmolight they could have added a way to not have to wait through an entire day and night cycle to do the quests

like idfk u can pay him to give u another quest or some bs

[solemn crest]

I mean to be fair they did like just remove a bunch of QoL like craftable vanilla items, so there’s a good chance it’s intentional game design

(I’m not a dev though so I have no idea)

[west isle]

yea but at the same time the angler is one of the few things that basically every terraria player ever has never liked oing

doing

cuz if ur doing specifically his quest and not fishing for potion n stuff

[solemn crest]

I believe there are quite a few people here that don’t mind angler quests

[west isle]

aka just doing quests

u spend like

a minute max actually "playing"

before going back to bed until the next day

[solemn crest]

Most players don’t necessarily have to farm this much for sundial too

Since they’re not on hardcore

[west isle]

well u get a guaranteed one in 26 quests

so unless u get like

REAL lucky

with golden crates

u still need to wait at least 26 in game days

[solemn crest]

Which over the course of Pre-HM to, what, post-Deus?, it’s not that big of a deal

[west isle]

thats if u remember to do them

which ur likely to not do because u dont even need to fish for potions

since blood orbs exist

[solemn crest]

Idk I don’t want to sound rude or anything but it sounds like your frustration is largely just stemming from a side effect of playing hardcore

[west isle]

look doing 200 angler quests in vanilla changes a man

[solemn crest]

Believe me I know

I have that achievement too

If you really want some funny stuff, there’s an exploit to do more in one day

[west isle]

changing name of character

ik

i just made a journey mode character and sped up day

to like 120x by the journey mode slider and sleeping

but i did that like on the last

30 quests

of the 200

[polar tide]

no

[west isle]

like i would understand if fishing was more prominant during gameplay but u can just use potions u find around the world for ur first few fights until skeletron and from there u can use blood orbs

which u can mass farm

so the only reason u would need to fish is for the sundial

[opaque plume]

angler be like

time go fishing

[west isle]

exept no u cant fish more then i tell u

[solemn crest]

Well yeah, you don’t wanna overfish the lake

[opaque plume]

terraria if fishing was this fun https://youtu.be/OsSRIjgJDnI?si=q1oiawCpWTuxGO35

[west isle]

my theory is that the angler is the reason why the global birthrates have been declining so much

nobody wants their son to become the angler

[opaque plume]

go watch phm please

its so good

[solemn crest]

Just have a daughter then, duh

[hard copper]

PHM stands for project hail mary, not pre hard mode smh

[west isle]

thats kinda random

[opaque plume]

yeah exactly lol

[opaque plume]

what if their transmasc and then become an angler

[solemn crest]

🤔

You bring up a fair point

Make them scared of fish ig?

They’ll never want to fish as long as sso stays delayed

In short, sso never

[west isle]

pretty sure i read somewhere that ur more likely to grow attached or attracted to stuff that caused fear in ur during childhood so i wouldnt try

i could also just be wrong

[solemn crest]

Anyway

Fih

🫧 🐠 🐟

[tropic jolt]

"hey men" and they are horrible hogs 😭😭😭

[spice hound]

thats sounds horrible

[thorn pier]

what about

hey man

[spice hound]

hay man

[deft lily]

hello

i am a man

[hasty tangle]

and this is a cat

[mystic eagle]

No that's a turtle

[tropic jolt]

hog

[spice hound]

Clealry thats a tartigrade

[arctic cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/tf2-team-fortress-2-spy-horse-gif-15137495079021881626

[deft lily]

kibby !!

[kindred night]

hello did you say trans

[sudden cairn]

sans

[hard copper]

trans undertale

[opaque plume]

yes

because i am a transfem infact

[kindred night]

omg... youre tramsgemdr.... thats so cool......

[opaque plume]

i took a terraria gender change potion irl( i wish)

[kindred night]

real

[earnest jewel]

YOU CAN TRANSFORM FEMURS!?

[opaque plume]

fun fact having a dream where those existed when i was in like 5th grade was like the first sign i had lmao

[kindred night]

😭

[deft lily]

woag

[spice hound]

MR BEAST

[deft lily]

m rbeat

[spice hound]

Mr bot

[fierce hearth]

Please turn around sir, a Mr Beast video is being filmed here.

[opaque plume]

you know whats a type of beast?

a horrible hog

Mr Horrible Hog

[barren nacelle]

Leftover tamale

[amber egret]

every time i see this chat light up i think its ai bot

[hard copper]

🐗

[arctic cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/spheal-tummy-slap-belly-slap-pokemon-gif-3721550777642990712

[frail owl]

ay i watched this video before

fatass spheal

[opaque plume]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-what-is-it-minding-my-business-not-my-problem-idc-gif-14273645

[spice hound]

I give you the seal of approval

Calamity should add seals to the ice biome

[opaque plume]

TRUE

i have a mod ideas based soley around seals

where they are like insanely powerful beings protecting the universe from like basically my version of the distortion i guess

this is a random idea in my head

its not very well thought out

[spice hound]

Sounds fire🔥

[opaque plume]

it might get made if i speedrun learning programming, spriting and music

i will need to ascend past myself

i love that line of twisted garden

[polar tide]

this is so cute

[opaque plume]

i want to make it happen but considering my current workload it probably isnt 😭

[spice hound]

Wait isn’t that kind of what xeroc is doing stopping the distortion
Xeroc is a seal confirmed

[opaque plume]

like i was thinking i already have a lot of stuff in addition to classes im going to be doing soon and then applications to be a lead at my job opened so uh

there goes my free time

[shut granite]

can we add papayas to calamity

[spice hound]

Yes they’ll be added in calamity 22.22 as a fruit drop from spine trees

[cinder mural]

Can we have coconuts be randomly dropped from palm trees as projectile with a chance of killing the player?

[spice hound]

What if they were coconut boulders

Actually wait that sounds like something relogic would probably do

Or wait what if lemons could be dropped and…. Exploded

What if they were even called… lemon’ades

[dense marsh]

that's when yharim comes out

[spice hound]

Good for them in coming out 🎉

[dense marsh]

yharim comes out as she/her

[dense marsh]

speaking of that (if that's what you meant) good luck on finding yourself out, your bio says u might be trans
just had to put this in here rq cuz why not :p

[spice hound]

❤️

Something else isn’t the plan for there to be arsenal armours alongside the weapons, but like isn’t there not going to be any armour for specifically the second arsenal tier or something. If I do rememver that right why is that one not getting one

[rotund venture]

unless plans have changed, arsenal armor will be in aerialite tier, post-plaguebringer tier, post-provi and finally exo armor

[quiet grove]

Man I just crafted the entropic claymore js to realize they nerfed it too 😭 is there any way to revert 2.1

[spice hound]

But like why will there be armour for all tiers other than the second tier (and also auric tier but like exo armour counts)

Why no mythril/orichalcum tier armour

[barren nacelle]

Fun fact!!

Bucket Zombie

[blazing field]

bucket zombie is funny

[spice hound]

I will say it felt kind of random of an inclusion but like its like neat

[cloud snow]

What the best update for u guy mine is wrath of machine

[dusk bronze]

what

[cloud snow]

What wrong dude

[dusk bronze]

wrath of the machines is an addon

[cloud snow]

Ohh

Sorry

[dusk bronze]

what update are you referring to

[cloud snow]

I donno

[spice hound]

I will say like having an early game enemy resist sentries is kind of like kicking a dying puppy when you think about it

[molten grove]

this feature was sponsored by my WRATH towards the

[scarlet root]

It's purely for fun, I'm throwing it here.

[spice hound]

What does this mean

Is meowthrower getting retiered to dog drop

[plush carbon]

I mean WOTM could do with an update

To fix the bugs

That have been there since release

[fathom girder]

wrath of the meem