calamity-update-talk

[hasty tangle]

i mean, they would have to

otherwise, itd be a postml bws and amalg brain

[rough ruin]

Same with folly's dynamo stem cells

And all their weapons and stuff

[blazing field]

yeah all of the associated items and the fight itself will be reworked and some stuff might entirely change and/or be remade rom the groundup

a tier shift wouldnt just swapping the bosses and changing/tweaking their stats and that of their associated weapons

for all intents of purposes itd basically be like 2 entirely different bosses repalcing old ones

or i guess 3, in this case

[spice hound]

Will the hive mind/perfs be post-moon lord but fightable before him like dragonfolly currently, or will they require moon lord’s defeat to be fought

[lyric trellis]

No clue

Gonna assume post-ml just because it’ll probably be a thing that happens upon ML’s death

But nothing is confirmed at all

[polar tide]

just for future reference you're never going to get a conclusive answer when you ask hyper specific questions like this about future content

because how in the world would we know this

[spice hound]

I didn’t know if like tierskips like that were kind of planned to be preserved like that, but thanks

[polar tide]

we can't know this until we're actually working on these tiershifts

[vagrant wind]

will the dragon aerie have a purple colored block that has a pickaxe power requirement of 167% that you can stub your toe on

[rough ruin]

Just gonna be one of those things we can only dream and theorise about atm

[lyric trellis]

I imagine/recall some devs wanting to keep pre-ml Yharon possible but obviously that’s just people saying things and won’t be decided until we get around to it

[polar tide]

pre ml yharon is so far out of what we should be thinking about rn that thinking about it noticeably made my headache worse just now

[rough ruin]

Like maybe perforators will just hurl the worms as projectiles instead

🤷‍♂️

[dull heart]

Y'know what we should be thinking about

[vagrant wind]

roots

[dull heart]

how awesome storm weaver is

[vagrant wind]

❌

[spice hound]

true storm weaver is really cool

[rough ruin]

Love the thunder sound effects for the sound cue

[spice hound]

Definitely the coolest post deus and pre d.o.g. Worm boss

[dull heart]

ture

[rough ruin]

Certainly helps sell the whole storm vibe

[vagrant wind]

you say this like theres any other worm boss inbetween those

[main falcon]

Yeah

Me

[vagrant wind]

is that the real jesus

[main falcon]

Yeah

[spice hound]

I love how Storm Weaver phase one is basically just a crawlipede, it is really neat to call back to the solar pillar and its totally cool and special and not boring

[polar tide]

tread carefully if we start focusing on our calamity blorbos that means i'd be making people focus on Yharim

[rough ruin]

The flip is a blorbo

[dull heart]

I didn't say to focus on him i just said to think about how awesome he is

[main falcon]

What if storm weaver was a spider

[dull heart]

lame

[spice hound]

What if storm weaver was a worm with 8 legs

[dull heart]

no blue lightning mandibles -100000 points

[dull heart]

does it have blue lightning mandibles

[main falcon]

Yeah

[dull heart]

ok then peak

[main falcon]

Spiders have mandibles

[spice hound]

Yes its exactly the same as current it just has 8 legs on the sides

[main falcon]

They have fang but most of them have mandibles

They share that with Scorpions

They are nearly the same type of bug

[rough ruin]

Could be even more awesome with like a storm arena barrier

Idk I just find the fact you can outrun it to be strange

[spice hound]

What if Storm Weaver was actually an antlion with large electric mandibles

[spice hound]

Hold on, having an arena like this could actually be really cool, like it could be like the area is the eye of the storm surrounded by storms to limit your movement

[rough ruin]

Almost like you are fighting it inside the eye of a storm system

[rough ruin]

EXACTLY

[main falcon]

I mean My spider storm weaver idea is basically shortening a little bit

And his legs sticking the to back ground

Like a the other spider enemies of the Game do in walls

[spice hound]

I will geniunely say that like out of all the post-moonlord bosses, storm weaver is definitely one of them

[dull heart]

you'll never guess what my Storm weaver rework addon mod is doing

[polar tide]

storm weaver would actually be really fucking cool as an odonate but i don't think it can work for l*re reasons sighhhh

[lyric trellis]

That one Shadows of Abaddon boss

[spice hound]

Uhhhh making him yellow?

[main falcon]

Odonate?

[polar tide]

order that encompasses dragonflies and damselflies

[dull heart]

(obligatory not for calamity disclaimer)

This shader looks so bad though

I need to fix it

But it's like 9 months old

maybe more

[main falcon]

What are damselflies

[rough ruin]

Oh damn

[main falcon]

They sound fucked up

[polar tide]

not really

[rough ruin]

That could be very cool

[polar tide]

theyre similar to dragonflies but they hold their wings back instead of out to the sides

[dull heart]

only other thing I got on hand, actually protecting the tail...

(hitting the armor shares iframes with all segments in this mod)

[main falcon]

Oh shit thats basically how i saw My arácnid storm weaver

Like he would switch between worm fligth

[rough ruin]

The enemies be adapting and evolving

[main falcon]

Then stationing on the background to prottect the tail and attack

By getting it out of your reach

[spice hound]

I never really noticed but phase two storm weaver’s design changes in some weird ways

Like why do its mandibles change shape

[main falcon]

He is pink

[spice hound]

Also I Feel kinda bad for storm weaver cos all its drops are like cooler than the entirety of current storm weaver’s design on their own

[thorn pier]

and hes a fraud

[rough ruin]

Fraud?

[spice hound]

Also isn’t he from like the distortion? But like their current design doesn’t really seem to feel fitting of a “creature” from there

Wait I just had a crazy Idea (which would be way too drastic) what if under the armour instead of what there is now storm weaver was literally a creature made of just electricty, and was like basically a sentient lightning bolt

[dull heart]

Hello calamity-doze-talk I am bored so have this

[iron dew]

does this item weave the storms

[grim pecan]

this thing does not know how to operate an air fryer

[dull heart]

proof?

[grim pecan]

i don't know how to operate an air fryer and i'm like 40% sure i'm smarter than it

[spice hound]

Is that the storm weaver tail item’s name

[rare tinsel]

i love storm weaver

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1405614811500253306/1454181868285988980/waddling.gif

[dull heart]

It's complicated

[spice hound]

Interesting

Very very interesting

[dull heart]

Me too

[rare tinsel]

It's so sleepy

OUGHG

THAT'S AWESOME

[spice hound]

Woah

Thats so cool

[dull heart]

I have been cooking with text recently

some very cool stuff

[spice hound]

It is really cool

[dull heart]

this probably won't get into 2.2 (needs an item sprite still)

I guess I could asset request one

idek what it should look like yet though

[thorn pier]

yeha

storm weaver = fraud and bad

[dull heart]

not true

storm weaver is so peak he invaded the textbox

hmm I could make every line of the tired tail tooltip turn into a storm weaver that'd be funny I think

I actually considered having the actual storm weaver sprite in the tooltip

but the text I think was funnier and cooler

[spice hound]

It could be funny if in like getfixedboi every line of text turned into stormweaver for it

[rare tinsel]

if you have it equipped it does that to all rendered text

[spice hound]

Also wait is it just a vanity item or does it have actual effects

[cinder mural]

oh

weaver getting reworked?

[spice hound]

Bro read the message

[cinder mural]

the video is the first thing i saw

sorry that the reading comprehension devil got me before

[blazing field]

thats not weaver .... smh

fake fan

[rare tinsel]

bubby

[rare tinsel]

me to storm weaver

[kindred night]

me to storm weaver but 1 hour late

[wise bolt]

i need to draw weaver again

[high scaffold]

What if, what if I make a Yharim wobble edit

[high scaffold]

I think infernal rift should use the unholy trident in its recipe

Also maybe night's ray using water scepter in its recipe instead of magic missile to reduce duplicates

[amber egret]

doesnt knights ray use 3/5 preboss materials

yea it does lol

[high scaffold]

And then that would mean the ultra liquidator recipe would also need changes

[amber kettle]

Didn’t there used to be a crimson version of the nights ray?

[dusk bronze]

carnage ray yea

[modern grove]

7 billion more people who confuse night's edge to be corruption themed

[hardy gulch]

Soul of Night as Night's Edge's theme...

either that or an Underworld/Demon theme

[molten grove]

night’s edge and dark lance have a ton of overlapping colors
night’s edge shares no identical colors with light’s bane

[amber egret]

isnt lights bane kinda blue

[molten grove]

the old sprites for the two even shared the exact same colors

[amber egret]

like its primarily purple but its slightly blue

(more than just shading)

yea its hilt and handle are rather blue

not as cobalt as muramas ofc but still more blue than nights edge which is just flatly a shade ofpurple

[molten grove]

yellow is all the parts of the sprites with the exact same colors night’s edge uses
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1021598579611144253/1090426452362657882/image.png?ex=69e810c5&is=69e6bf45&hm=28782f43362cb13edf9678d5cd10ce6c7f6c5893557c4b250fbe2203b3300842&

[amber egret]

whats the thing above it

[molten grove]

and old

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1021598579611144253/1090426998863712528/image.png?ex=69e81147&is=69e6bfc7&hm=8a241411d46385b1a861fa353b328c3cf84cfe773d954dccfeea93de2c8768e4&

dark lance

[amber egret]

oh funny

[grizzled hinge]

Update tomorrow

Calamity update tomorrow

[compact ice]

Anyone know when calamity will be compatible with the latest tmodloader update?

[hasty tangle]

cal always is

if youre getting an error saying it was made for an old version, thats not cal's fault

thats another mod giving an error

and if you mean when cal updates to the latest terraria version, tmod has to update first

[solemn crest]

Calamity mod

[spice hound]

Terraria

[compact ice]

Yeh when I loaded tmodloader it said that calamity wasn’t the right version and was outdated so who knows why that is, might try deleting tmod and trying again

[hasty tangle]

again, this issue isnt calamity

its some other mod

[compact ice]

No other mods were incompatible, unless for some reason my just hasn’t updated since the last time I played it

[solemn crest]

Idk try verifying tmodloader files, typically fixes bugs for me

[desert garnet]

do you have any translation mod?

[compact ice]

I don’t believe so, I’ll have to check later

I’m pretty sure I’ve got the dlc ones like wrath of the gods on there I think, don’t know if that would do it

[solar hare]

[hasty hawk]

An addon is checking for an older Calamity version that would be outdated, this is not Cal's fault

[polar tide]

https://tenor.com/view/wiggle-cat-kitty-small-car-gif-16990037302750262224

[hasty hawk]

Disable mods until problem stops

[hasty hawk]

kitty!

[solar hare]

why are you instantly assuming calamity is the reason its not working and arguing about it lol

[hasty hawk]

Tmod error logs are sometimes uninformative or misinformative

especially when dealing with mods checking dependencies

[grim pecan]

i see the problem now. you need to turn your volume up, your cat is on vibrate when it should be on speaker

[polar tide]

he wiggel liek pudding

https://tenor.com/view/dessert-jelly-pudding-wobble-gif-16360451

[solar hare]

fix your cat

[boreal edge]

Violently smashing my fist into this pudding

[polar tide]

im violently smashing my mouth into it nomnomnomnom

[deft lily]

i stubbed my toe this morning this is calamity's fault

[hasty tangle]

i personally really hate how the very top of the error message is always saying that cal was made for an older version

like, its the first thing people look at, and its very easy to assume thats what the problem is

[frail owl]

get wiggly with it

[deft lily]

the sky is blue this is calamity's fault

how dare you ozzatron smh

[candid mist]

[high scaffold]

Reminder, sulphurous sea overhaul

With reworked enemies and critters, some new ones, reworked and new weapons as well

SulSO might actualy be bigger then SunSO

Actualy, sunken will be bigger in generation, sulphurous will be bigger in overall content I think

[solemn crest]

Calamity new liquid ⁉️

[versed heart]

Tbf it's not like we've actually seen the place iirc, probably going to be a while before we will (and will also get several other examples of creatures from there aside from Storm Weaver, DoG and I guess Signus)

[dusty tinsel]

Fovos also is from there

[versed heart]

I forgot about that, but still

[high scaffold]

Me when SSO and SSO2 are coming eventualy

[dusty tinsel]

I am cancelling them

The update will be too powerful for your mortal brains to handle

[high scaffold]

Isnt it funny that there are 2 seas in the mod and both seas' names start with an "S"

[dusty tinsel]

There are 3 if you count the original ocean

It has calamity content

[high scaffold]

The SSO The SSO2 and The OO

The ocean doesnt make SSO

[earnest jewel]

Serene Sea.

[dusty tinsel]

I am going to dip you toes first in the sulphurous sea

[polar tide]

https://tenor.com/view/splunger-isopod-rolly-poly-pill-bug-meme-gif-2092182872017611564

[dull heart]

should spoil?

[proud plover]

Ye

[solemn crest]

Indeed

[dull heart]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/406493898341613568/1490064049969561762/Paleo.mp4?ex=69d2b1c9&is=69d16049&hm=150357765a914b8cc5a3919ed7ef6a1bc454a0e8f431b3320283894a395feda9&

[rare tinsel]

Close enough

Welcome back spikecrag staff

[thorn pier]

i feel like this would go crazy

[grave geyser]

implying spikecrag ever left

[dull heart]

Spikecrag but the spikes linger

And can hit 4 times per spike

and the spikes can be moved by conveyor belts!!!

[solemn crest]

How many spikes can be active at once?

[dull heart]

as many as you can spawn

they last 10 seconds

[solemn crest]

Ahh ok

I was wondering if you could spend 10 minutes stacking them up with conveyors to just 1 tap Plantera lol

Oooh wait that’s gonna put in some work against destroyer…

[high scaffold]

Me when the rogue is roguing

[solemn crest]

Roguing it

[grave geyser]

Orichalcum spiked gemstone

Are the shards local iframes

[proud plover]

Thats pretty cool!

[rare tinsel]

no they’re global

[grave geyser]

Clearly

[dull heart]

Yes

Iirc 10 local

it's meant to play "trapper" esque - build a ton of spikes in an area and lure the boss through the spikes for a bunch of damage

[rare tinsel]

Looks like it does that well

It seems to be stronger after stealth strikes if you hit in succession

So it’d be a great hybrid weapon, presumably?

[dull heart]

It's specifically that the spear sticks in the target for 10 seconds

And amplifies all Paleolith hits during the 10 seconds

3 -> 5 shards

[dull heart]

Yup! The whole line is

[rare tinsel]

Peam

[dull heart]

Paleolith, Profaned Partisan, Vega, Eclipse's Fall

[rare tinsel]

These new weapons all suddenly dropping are all awesome

Did Fabsol gatekeep all the good weapons or is this coincidence

[dull heart]

Partisan and EFall are my favorites

[grave geyser]

I understand that the idea is cool but having gone through rogue mech hell god that annoys me that we’re getting yet another mech tier trapper weapon

[dull heart]

Coincidence

[dull heart]

well eventually we'll get around to making Ori Gemstone and Burning Strife to be good I think

is there another trapper rogue I forgot about

[amber egret]

isnt burning strife good

[grave geyser]

• Scourge of the seas
• Skyfin bombers
• desecrated water
• consecrated water
• spent fuel container

[amber egret]

or did it get killed to not be scal viable

[amber egret]

blast barrel

[grave geyser]

Strife is mid

[dull heart]

okay so a bunch of stuff that will also get made good probably

[grave geyser]

Rogue hell

[amber egret]

isnt skyfin like "skyfin if it was a bomb"

like you throw it up, it hovers for a bit, then charges

[dull heart]

Fixing Skyfin would be easy

[grave geyser]

Scourge of the seas should steal burning seas old gimmick

[dull heart]

Just make the clouds not a real emphasis

[amber egret]

you just make it act like a etherian wvyern :)

[dull heart]

Idek what the waters do tbh

[grave geyser]

Desecrated is just scourge of the seas again

[amber egret]

does SotS not act like the rogue desert scourge weapon ?

[grave geyser]

Consecrated is a pillar of flame

[dull heart]

Doesn't Desecrated home in on enemies or is the homing just fake news

[grave geyser]

No
Neither does that weapons upgrade which is an entirely seperate weapon from scourge of the seas

[amber egret]

[dull heart]

Consecrated is also an easy fix I think

But it would compromise the Castlevania reference!!!!

[amber egret]

honestly the IDEA of consecrated is cool

[grave geyser]

Spent fuel container is fine if it just becomes a contaminated bile upgrade :clue:

[amber egret]

its just not spectacular

[dull heart]

Spent Fuel is the one with the most trapper backing I think

[grave geyser]

Exactly so it upgrades from the prehardmode sulph sea trapper weapon

Just makes sense

[amber egret]

skyfin explodes into gas???

[grave geyser]

Yes

[dull heart]

I think when rogue is done I'd want Burning Strife, Paleolith, and either Spent Fuel or Consecrated Water to be the only remaining mech tier trappers

[amber egret]

i thought it just exploded

[arctic cliff]

okay, if according to he who shall not be named in an episode of calcast was right, then supposedly it was actually why much of 2.1 was just weapon reworks, because fabsol’s terrible management led to devs only really being able to work on weapon reworks

[dull heart]

I don't think that's entirely right

[arctic cliff]

doze can explain better

especially because yknow.

[grave geyser]

Gemstone becoming metal monstocity 3 🙏

[dull heart]

2.1 weapon rework hell is just because nobody either had sunken sea things to do or wanted to do sunken sea stuff

[arctic cliff]

anyhow

how’s 2.2 going

[dull heart]

I don't think that was Fabsol's fault at all from what I saw

[dull heart]

2.2

[dull heart]

As in, he didn't cause it, but obviously he didn't help either

[urban cloak]

it may have been a mix of both tbh but this one definitely contributed the most

[frail owl]

[urban cloak]

sso was pretty scattered

[frail owl]

hi there fry

[high scaffold]

Looking at old spoilers almost makes me shed a tear

[grave geyser]

Side note but please let this work on platforms half the reason ori gemstone is ass to use is because you have to ground yourself

[dull heart]

I mean it's literally working on platforms there

[grave geyser]

I am on phone with screen flare I can’t see that well

[dull heart]

Ah

[grave geyser]

Mb

[dull heart]

One side is platforma

The other is conveyor belts that push the spikes onto the dummy

[amber egret]

lunatic cultist: haha heyyy

[frail owl]

add

[grave geyser]

Wait if it’s local…..
….im just gonna keep that one to myself

[dull heart]

are you thinking about on hit effects

[grave geyser]

No I’m thinking about leviathan

[dull heart]

oh

Aureus will have fun!

[grave geyser]

Yeah but that ones a given

[dull heart]

yeah

Daedalus armor is also funny with it

[grave geyser]

Most of the trapper weapons have trouble with Levi that this looks like it will avoid

[high scaffold]

Me when the update is soon

[grave geyser]

Thank god it’s going to be c tier and thus not broken on aureus and Levi, right doze?

[dull heart]

hey

Done had to buff it

[amber egret]

i call it "Spikecrag 2"

[dull heart]

If it's broken it's not my fault

[arctic cliff]

ah, looking good so far

[grave geyser]

Ok it’s done balancing it b tier it is

[dull heart]

can't wait for eclipse's fall rogue meta

finally a good post yharon weapon

[grave geyser]

Only meta if seraphim and dynamic pursuer get what they deserve

[high scaffold]

The Rogue will no longer be dogshi?

[amber egret]

dynamic pursuer is decent hwat

ive heard nothing but "its alright" to "its good!"

[dull heart]

True... I should make the new tester test away to ensure those aren't broken

[high scaffold]

Will there be tweaks to DoG in 2.2?

[grave geyser]

Tester Vagueposting

[frail owl]

it was my saving grace against abominationn

[amber egret]

proper example of what happens to Lunatic Cultist

alternatively, it is called Ares

[dull heart]

I should make Paleolith spikes go through portal gun

[amber egret]

yes!

[frail owl]

therefore i can do nothing but heartily compliment it

[amber egret]

you should make their damage scale slightly with movement speed

[dull heart]

no

[grave geyser]

No bad die

[amber egret]

faster = more but slower = more with some arbitrary middle

[amber egret]

im hearing nothing but love for my ideas

passion for my methods <3

[high scaffold]

Honestly, Demonshade rework may be my favorite upcoming change, outside of big overhauls of course

I like some armor changes in general

[amber egret]

how do you rework "Fuck You. Damage" the armor set

or is it just killing red devil

[high scaffold]

3 helmets

[amber egret]

oh fun

[high scaffold]

Melee, ranger-rogue, mage-summoner

[amber egret]

why mage summoner

[high scaffold]

Also post scal instead of post game

[amber egret]

oh awesomesauce

perfect pairing with exo armor

yippee!

[high scaffold]

There will also be 3 tiers of arsenal armor and exo armor

[amber egret]

i swa that

[high scaffold]

Also nearly every 5 helmet set being reduced

-# Aerospec where are you, they promised you so long ago

[grave geyser]

still kinda mixed on this cant lie but I get it

[high scaffold]

Me when my armors arent sloppy

[dull heart]

5 helmet sets aren't necessarily sloppy

[high scaffold]

But too much of them is not good

[dull heart]

None of them being bad has anything to do with them being 5 helmet sets

[high scaffold]

Makes them feel more samy

[dull heart]

I do agree we have too many multi helmet sets though

auric, chloro, hallowed are the three I want to be 5 helmet sets

Beyond that maybe hydrothermic

maybe Bloodflare

[high scaffold]

Im especially excited about aerospec because the other classes already have the sets

[high scaffold]

Chloro and hallow rogue helmets confirmed?

[grave geyser]

can umbra get moved to post plant when this happens so clone doesnt randomly buff eclipse for no reason :clue:

[dull heart]

how did you get to confirmed from "I want"

[grave geyser]

hallowed rogue has been talked about for ages

[dull heart]

anyway vanilla has made it clear chloro and hallowed are meant to be for all classes

So chloro and hallow rogue makes sense

[high scaffold]

You are a dev, you have more power then some ideas guy, even if ideas guy is very cool with cool ideas

[high scaffold]

Truth

[grave geyser]

helps that they are both the same tier in cal and compliment each other well

[celest glen]

is this a bad time?

[dull heart]

Okay but I'm one of like 40

[grave geyser]

raw stats and offensive set bonus vs strong defensive set bonus

[high scaffold]

40 cool devs vs 1000 ideas guys and gals

[amber egret]

i am made of ideas

without ideas i will crumble to dust

[celest glen]

hey doze you got time for a question?

[solar hare]

if every idea doze had was in the mod the mod would be so interesting

[high scaffold]

"I think therefore I exist" ah statement

[dull heart]

It would surely not be boring that's guaranteed

[tropic jolt]

if ideas are your power

[solar hare]

oh for sure lol

[tropic jolt]

what are you without it?

[frail owl]

i wish crabbar could post cat pics here

[solar hare]

it would be more interesting id say

[dull heart]

sure

[celest glen]

do you know who programmed the new old lord claymore?

[dull heart]

xyk

[frail owl]

hi there paper crane umbreon

[celest glen]

do you know if they also programmed the forbidden oathblade?

[dull heart]

Yes

[high scaffold]

Where is the aerolite rework that was promised to us 3000 years ago?

[grave geyser]

the entire line is xyk is it not

[dull heart]

They did that whole line

[grave geyser]

yeah

[dull heart]

I ate it

[frail owl]

look up

[celest glen]

ok thanks

[grave geyser]

I mean yes but then 22 happened

[celest glen]

gonna hope I catch them in chat soon then

[grave geyser]

and then 25 happened

[dull heart]

Xyk isn't here often tbh

[grave geyser]

the past 4 years of this mods history has been nothing but setbacks that are only just now being gotten past

[high scaffold]

Guess I will have to pull it from your gut then

[pulsar cobalt]

xyk is basically never here unless they have something to spoil iirc

[celest glen]

neither am I tbf

[frail owl]

who even are you?

[dull heart]

part of me wants to show of eclipse's fall

the other part of me knows I shouldn't

[solemn crest]

Post-Yharon rogue weapon be good? Impossible!

[celest glen]

thunderx9001

[high scaffold]

Let me guess, did Xyk make his blessing himself?

[celest glen]

also I'm making a calamity add-on if that matters

[solar hare]

tbh most post yharon rogue weapons are good lol

[frail owl]

thank you, low polygon umbreon

[dull heart]

They're strong good but not good good

But that's 90% of rogue anyway

[frail owl]

also umbreons are the bane of my existence in randbats

[dull heart]

Rogue has so few actually well made weapons

[solemn crest]

cough cough seraphim cough cough

[dull heart]

seraphim is not good good

[frail owl]

thank you doze for revitalizing rogue

[grave geyser]

are these good post yharon rogue weapons in the room with us right now?

[high scaffold]

And let me guess, most of them are from brainstorm

[dull heart]

it has some jank issues and also just looks eek

[grave geyser]

unless by good you mean strong in which case sure Iguess

[dull heart]

true

[lapis oak]

Seraphim is so shit wtf you mean

[solar hare]

final dawn is cool, wrathwing

[lapis oak]

piss ass vanilla laser beam spam weapon

[solemn crest]

It does fine damage it just looks horrendous

[lapis oak]

well made

[grave geyser]

wrathwing is lame as fuck I cant lie

[solemn crest]

Yeah, strong good but not good good

[dull heart]

Like off the top of my head right now

• Final Dawn (if it wasn't at the tier it's at)
• Doomsday Device
• Wulfrum Knife
• Molten Amputator (if you ignore the returning gimmick that feels entirely disconnected from the rest of the weapon)

[high scaffold]

Will there be any elemental weapon reworks/resprites in 2.2?

[solar hare]

if we count post exos then atom splitter is like awesome

[dull heart]

Oh and supernova

[dusk bronze]

leviathan teeth is pretty cool idk

[dull heart]

Supernova is peak

[pulsar cobalt]

this is like a 2016 weapon

if it was melee everyone would be shitting on it instantly

[solemn crest]

New Levi teeth are actually really cool

[solar hare]

supernova is super awesome core

[dull heart]

Levi teeth is borderline for me primarily because of spam

[solemn crest]

I think supernova is gonna be cooler with lemon nade gimmick too

[solar hare]

youre not ready...

[dull heart]

If the spam and stealth had some interaction or different niche then I'd feel much better about Levi Teeth

[grave geyser]

rogue weapon ranking

1. wulfrum knife
2. vega
3. doomsday device
4. dukes decapitator for funny value
5. supernova

[dull heart]

Vega hmm

I feel so very mixed on vega

I keep trying to make it better but I keep failing

[grave geyser]

my biggest issue with vega is that the stealth effect is kinda lame

conceptually the weapon is fantastic

[dull heart]

I feel like the way the starburst consumption works feels off to me too

[high scaffold]

The SSO is honestly starting to annoy me a bit because it gatekeeps so much cool stuff that is already made

[solemn crest]

Ok but real talk what is the pre-provi rogue meta?

[grave geyser]

profaned partisan

[grave geyser]

I mean you right click and it does a thing thats how most of them work

[dull heart]

Vega is in the weird spot where I feel like it feels too disconnected and obtuse but it also kinda just works

[pulsar cobalt]

vega is cool conceptually but it needs more to build off of. right now all it can do is like activate purple haze with the starburst stealth strike and thats it pretty much

[solemn crest]

I honestly had no idea that thing existed

[grave geyser]

disconnected from stratus or from rogue

[dull heart]

It feels like it's borderline of being Great and I can't figure out what to do to push it over the edge

[dull heart]

From itself

[high scaffold]

But that also means that the release of SSO will be all that more exciting

[solemn crest]

Sso never! 😡

[dull heart]

Pure stealth especially feels like it just has no reason to exist

Perhaps I need to make it so right click only restores stealth and doesn't throw

[high scaffold]

The SSO DNA have already been injected into calamity

[solemn crest]

The transformation has begun…

[dull heart]

And then makes the next strike do the star recall effect

that might be it

[grave geyser]

didnt you go through this exact thought process previously

[high scaffold]

Isnt horrible hog an enemy?

[distant raft]

its a hog

[dusk bronze]

he's our savior

[solemn crest]

Hog spelled backwards is god btw

[pulsar cobalt]

true

[high scaffold]

Would that mean that it would be one of the first actual good enemies added to calamity

[pulsar cobalt]

yes actually

[high scaffold]

Goog

[tropic jolt]

we're going hog wild tomorrow

[high scaffold]

Also pls fix death mode enemy ai

Its so ass

I dont ask for fargo souls 2.0 level of enemy reworks but at least something that doesnt make me want to vomit

[grave geyser]

which ones in particular

I barely remember current death enemy changes

[dense sundial]

Big glowing neon NO sign

[high scaffold]

Like, all of them

[dense sundial]

Seraphim is literally vomit

[grave geyser]

nothing as memorable as old antlions or hardmode worms

[solemn crest]

Strong good but not good good

[tropic jolt]

scorn eater

[urban cloak]

high up on my bucket list personally

[high scaffold]

Supersonic fighter ai

[grave geyser]

scorn eater is my goat
not because he's good but because he's funny

[solemn crest]

My discord was just being slow at that time

[dull heart]

Yes but I implemented it differently than how I'm thinking bow

Now

And the way I did it before make Vega into afk hold both clicks

[solemn crest]

I should make an addon for the meow thrower

Rogue weapon that throws cats

[dense sundial]

Well yeah, I’d sure hope you get around to making Calamity good before you DIE!

[high scaffold]

Why doesnt meowthrower apply a debuff?

[grave geyser]

what debuff would it apply

[solemn crest]

Uhhh

Marked for death

[dull heart]

Meowed

[distant raft]

vapourified or whatever i think

[misty wren]

all of them

[high scaffold]

Also the same for the terra flamethrower

[dull heart]

Miracle Blight

[dull heart]

also has no associated debuff

[solemn crest]

POV: hit by meowthrower

[misty wren]

on fire! but green

[dull heart]

Cursed Flames woohoo

[solemn crest]

On meow!

[dull heart]

Fun fact

Dynamic Pursuer stealth inflicts cursed flames

[dense sundial]

Cat Inferno
Incinerated by cat power
Heat - 26 DPS

[misty wren]

no no thats thematically corruption on fire! but green is just on fire! but green

[grave geyser]

too strong for a wof drop I fear

[high scaffold]

Also iirc none of the calamity flamethrowers have armor penetration, one of he main features of vanila flamethrowers

[solemn crest]

Cuteness!
The cute kitties are melting your heart!
Heat - 999999 DPS

[dull heart]

Heat - :3 dps

It just makes enemies say :3 in chat

[grave geyser]

only works on enemies that can already talk

[solemn crest]

Yup good addition this will be the cal update of all time

[high scaffold]

I will be finaly able to put enemies in heat

[grave geyser]

so like
only calclone and scal

[hasty hawk]

:3

[solemn crest]

[grave geyser]

(dog is immune and draedon cant be hit in a form that would cary over)

[hasty hawk]

Prob cuz of reused projectile from Plasma Grenades

[grim pecan]

Sets enemies Nyalight

[lyric trellis]

Old duke can talk

[grave geyser]

gps is a calhaul player confirmed

[solemn crest]

What rogue weapons does ML drop?

[hasty hawk]

Calhaul got a glowup in late 2025 tho

[hasty hawk]

Utensil Poker

Great vs certain space chicken

[solemn crest]

That would be a perfect spot to put Meow Thrower then

[high scaffold]

Both the flamethrower and elf melter have 15 AP

[dull heart]

I'm just going to stop typing what I was typing for everyone's sake

[lyric trellis]

Doze falling off the deep end

[solemn crest]

You brought it up now you gotta commit to it

[dull heart]

falling?

[dusk bronze]

coward

[frail owl]

why did utensil poker grant you well fed anyways?

[dense sundial]

This is more like actively digging into the Mariana Trench when you’ve already added Grape Beer

[solemn crest]

Fork

[hasty hawk]

chicken is chicken duh!

[frail owl]

what even was the point?

[dull heart]

grape beer is peak

[pulsar cobalt]

its a utensil

[frail owl]

ah ok

[high scaffold]

And calamity flamethrowers have 0 AP combined

[solemn crest]

Add wiresthrower

[frail owl]

true!

[dense sundial]

Point proven

[lyric trellis]

Utensil Poker is eating the bosses for you

[dull heart]

you're the crazy one

[solemn crest]

[frail owl]

thrower

[lapis oak]

Grape Beer is so peak

[solemn crest]

Throws

[hasty hawk]

all Cal devs eventually go crazy, its just a matter of time

also yea Grape Beer is peak

[tropic jolt]

grape bear is a travesty

[hasty hawk]

just needs a small nerf

[tropic jolt]

🐻

[solemn crest]

Grrr my grape beer doesn’t work with infernum purity grr my op combo!

[dense sundial]

Says the user who was certainly a Cal dev long enough to go crazy

[solemn crest]

Brainstorm when?

[tropic jolt]

I was crazy once

[hasty hawk]

They locked me in a room

[solemn crest]

A rubber room

[tropic jolt]

a sunken room, under the sea

[hasty hawk]

Already out

[misty wren]

a rubber room with tests

[solemn crest]

Sso? I was sso once

[hasty hawk]

The question is: When Hog Wild update?

[misty wren]

tests? shade was a tester once
they locked them in a room
a tester room
a tester room with bug-reports-read-pins

[solemn crest]

Sunken hog overhaul

[dusk bronze]

supreme swine overhaul*

[hasty hawk]

tester and programmer (most I did was fixing bugs, some balancing, ideasguying and the occassional rework)
but i can confirm
#1052330262492631071 turns you crazy you do not want to work on Customer service

at least I dont need to keep the Façade anymore, I can now say whatever I feel like it and not have to check there again

Unless I have a crossmod bug with Catalyst thats on Cal's side but I think I caught all of em

[solemn crest]

There’s a bug where I die to astrageldon after taking damage

[tropic jolt]

thats insane

[high scaffold]

Lol

[hasty hawk]

Any Catalyst concerns should be taken to the Catalyst server also skill issue

[solemn crest]

[high scaffold]

Me when catalyst will get an update

[hasty hawk]

soon™

[high scaffold]

(they shared some spoilers a while ago)

[tropic jolt]

astrageldon 2

[hasty hawk]

I want to post smth to public spoilers but its unfinished as fuck and wont be able to work on it til later

[tropic jolt]

astrageldon + goozma duo fight real not fake

[hasty hawk]

lets head to #calamity-addon-talk

[high scaffold]

Like calamity fables and spirit reforged desert scourge vs scarabeus?

[tropic jolt]

yes

but fake

[urban cloak]

is hunt even alive actually

[high scaffold]

Sulphurous sea overhaul would be so cool, they could make the loot chests actualy possible to find

[hasty hawk]

Stasis

[distant raft]

hotog has Plans™

[high scaffold]

Not dead for sure

[hasty hawk]

or infernum-like maintenance

wait Hotog is still alive?

[distant raft]

yeah goozmas gonna get a rework

items are gonna be balanced

[high scaffold]

Even the addons get reworked now

[distant raft]

example being the scythe's damage getting cut to 2700

[distant raft]

tbf goozma fucking needs it

[high scaffold]

When is stopma boots line actualy becoming a line?

[lyric trellis]

Goozma definitely needs it yeah lol

[thorny glacier]

im quite fond of this jello

[cinder mural]

infernum do be taking the fun outta it

[dull heart]

hello

[vagrant wind]

rule 5. no saying hello

[thorn pier]

rule 6. only saying hi

[steep path]

rule 7. 67

[arctic cliff]

rule 8. make sure to horrifically alter and mutate amidias to create hype for the next update, especially if that happens to be SSO.

[opaque plume]

rule 9. amidias hog coming in sunken wild

[solemn crest]

Rule 10. Do not. You know what to not do

[opaque plume]

also i saw some talk about the interludes earlier i think having some sort of visual effects with those could be cool?

idk

i love the interlude themes tho

they add so much

catastrophes before calamity might be one of my favorite calamity songs

[solemn crest]

catastrophes before the calamity best song in the mod

[opaque plume]

and then eulogy for the ego is also goated

[solemn crest]

you get it

[opaque plume]

storms before catastrophes is also really good imo but it does have the problem of overlapping with the vcmm interlude

[tropic jolt]

storms should maybe go to post provi instead

[opaque plume]

speaking of vcmm who remembers the old calamity vanilla music mod

the enway one

[tropic jolt]

[opaque plume]

i dont remember much from it other than the snow biome theme being like

really iconic

https://youtu.be/llTydG62aAA?si=eJofFhY6wFMmsT4z

[thorny glacier]

fax

[opaque plume]

maybe its because there was one playthrough where i really struggled with cryogen before they made boss summons non consumable so i had this constantly playing

just grinding essence of eleum

[marsh bone]

ok idk if im stupid and this is just the update but i cant find anything about the rod of discord chances, i got it like two kills in a row lmao

[tropic jolt]

it was buffed to a 2% drop in cal with brainstorm

[misty wren]

yeah

[mystic eagle]

That's Calamity Extra Music

[marsh bone]

alr

[opaque plume]

i mean it did basically the same thing

does that mod exist for 1.4.4 tml still

i would guess so

[mystic eagle]

It does

[deft lily]

vcmm blizzard never

[mystic eagle]

Although personally, I heavily prefer VCMM over it

[opaque plume]

yeah

its a much older mod

[thorny glacier]

a lie

[opaque plume]

i would imagine those are also older songs enway probably doesnt like

[deft lily]

what do i make of this

[mystic eagle]

Blizzard Tomorrow with New Funky Mode

[deft lily]

woag

[misty wren]

WHAT THE FUCK IS FUNKY KONG DOING IN CALAMITY MOD

[deft lily]

calamity mod funky kong addon

[pulsar cobalt]

Calamity Mod with New Funky Mode

[opaque plume]

its crazy to me they are replacing moon lord and false epilogue those are so good lol

[misty wren]

a day to be remembered

[deft lily]

virtuous radiance isn't even a moon lord theme dawg

[opaque plume]

i did just learn it was a fan theme for xeroc

but it fits well

[mystic eagle]

Virtuous Radiance is a placeholder and is likely remaining at the very least as music box

[orchid jacinth]

yooooooooooooooooooooooo

[deft lily]

and also memory of a cruel world is like 5 years old atp

[mystic eagle]

It is likely to get either that or get (partially) remixed

[opaque plume]

so is resurrection of a cruel world

both are really good

[mystic eagle]

Yes but RoaCW sounds less inline to the other main tracks

I mean

Memory

[opaque plume]

i will say calamity moon lord rework whenever that happens is probably gonna be crazy

people probably dont think about it a lot because ml is a vanilla boss

[deft lily]

resurrection wasn't even by heart which is why it has held up for so long

[mystic eagle]

Also Resurrection is like the title track of VCMM so of course even if it were to get remade, it would be very hard not to screw things up

[opaque plume]

but ml is like a very important figure in calamity lore so it will be really interesting to see him become an actually good boss

[deft lily]

vcmm was heart's first dive into music composing afaik.

[misty wren]

the devs dont think about it a lot because moon lord code is awful

[opaque plume]

😭

yeah im not surprised

i do remember the original moon lord infernum video that looked cool

[tropic jolt]

its like some sort of... tropical freeze

[mystic eagle]

This is true and MoaCW is her very first song that's public atleast

[opaque plume]

i see

[mystic eagle]

Honestly didn't even think about that when making the image

[opaque plume]

i think this is the very first piece of infernum ever posted https://youtu.be/hFRCcJdLwCA?si=6OIPR-G4fDKKWhkc

or close to it

[misty wren]

nah

i think infernum is older

[opaque plume]

oh its an old video so it has lucille deadname 🥀

[deft lily]

speaking of infernum + music i suppose
i dont hate the infernum ost but i am very indifferent to it

trillions of people incoming to skin me alive

[tropic jolt]

I like some of the songs

a lot just arent interesting to me at all

[deft lily]

^

also whilst pinpin shouldn't have had received all of the verbal abuse they got they also used that whole thing as a way to dismiss actual valid criticism of their work afaik

[tropic jolt]

my most common complaint with the infernum songs is they usually open pretty strong and kinda just devolve into being unmemorable after a bit

[deft lily]

last time i said i disliked infernum's ost in cal main i got skinned alive for it

or well

i said i was "indifferent" to it

[halcyon seal]

I think it’s 2nd personally

If we count vcmm

Because Fated Insurrection is just THAT fucking good

[tropic jolt]

it is a banger

[deft lily]

it does go hard but idk if id rank it that high lul

but i respect it

[solar hare]

heaven sent abomination is the best song in the mod

the best song in the album is blessing of the moon

[deft lily]

true

[mystic eagle]

"Oh great Chaos Emeralds tell me what I'm supposed to fucking post as a reply"

Post it
"Okay"

[tired kraken]

https://tenor.com/view/guizebuceta-agressivo-aggressive-angry-anger-gif-13878215

[opaque plume]

oh yeah trial of the insane is really good yeah

i would have better memories of it if i didnt associate it with me breaking wotm exo mechs in boss rush using earth and then having to restart 😭

also random thing i had thr sudden urge recently to see if there was any calamity bells in silksong ost

i think awakening has a bunch

[tropic jolt]

"calamity bells"

[lyric vortex]

Oh hey music discussion yay

[hard copper]

the calamity bells are totally tubular

[tropic jolt]

😭

[hard copper]

🧌

[lyric vortex]

Idk why but I feel like with the calamity bells it really varies with how good it sounds

[solar hare]

@lyric trellis would chetto approve

[lyric vortex]

Like I'd say there are a lot more misses then hits with songs that have those particular bells in them

[lyric trellis]

Clearly not look at the slime placement smh

[solar hare]

should be F tier

[lyric trellis]

Alright Chetto

[deft lily]

me omw to post dradeon motif bell slop to youtube and quitting music composing entirely when it doesnt get 10 trillion views within the span of 2 nano seconds

[high scaffold]

Calamity being ported to 1.4.5 will probably feel like another calamity update(no shit Sherlock because it is an update)

[tropic jolt]

brain blast

[high scaffold]

Modded 1.4.5 will be so goog

[vocal kelp]

so tempted to jest right now

to have a little laugh

[high scaffold]

Finaly official keybinds

[lyric vortex]

😭

[high scaffold]

Bulk crafting and buying

[lyric vortex]

I think the bell era is over though now

[solar hare]

?

[vocal kelp]

perhaps i will meet you with some pleasantries

[high scaffold]

New lighting

[vocal kelp]

jut say some quips out here really

some good banter even

[deft lily]

for the record idc if bells are used as long as they are
yknow
done right

and not spammed every 2 seconds

[lyric vortex]

Fair

[high scaffold]

Cant forget about a billion little things that also came out in 1.4.5+

[cinder mural]

dash keybind mod becomes obsolete in the next update

[lyric vortex]

I feel like I have a slightly different perspective on bells especially listening to a lot of rap music where bells are meant to be this like serious "oh no did he just do that" thing when really it's just corny

[high scaffold]

All mods with dash keybind

Including calamity

Will be able to finaly get rid of it

And armor set bonus too

[vocal kelp]

bell evra is so far from over

so so far from over

[lyric vortex]

😨

[vocal kelp]

its just serious composers from non cal mods evade them for The Obvious Reason

[lyric vortex]

Ah

[vocal kelp]

people who still compose for cal or cal addon projects very much still bell it all up

[lyric vortex]

I used to browse YT for calamity like music but now the main community focused music I hear from people is from cal arts and cal music

[deft lily]

i dont rlly listen to fan cal composers either

[deft lily]

they kind of have to atp

like i said idt using bells are bad as long as its done right

[tropic jolt]

I still like the bells

[vocal kelp]

imsome king of unholy stains of roaring collapse

[opaque plume]

i think bells should be reserved for major story bosses

[lyric vortex]

A thing I think a lot of fan cal composers should do is widen their understanding of music to understand more than just like instrument similarities such as like writing melodies or chord voicings or even the type non diatonic writing cal has in most songs

[opaque plume]

its possible to write good calamity music without bells

[lyric vortex]

What I've heard from people like forge and tyeski is that it's for powerful post moon lord bosses

[deft lily]

yeah i agree

[opaque plume]

yeah

[vocal kelp]

this is 90% of every calamity fan song you have ever heard. its just this

its just unholy stains of roaring colapse

[opaque plume]

like if yharim theme doesnt have a lot of bells i would be pretty disappointed lmao

but if the replacement for servants of the scourge didnt i wouldnt care that much

[deft lily]

the OST is the only reason calamity is what it is today

[lyric vortex]

Related to this but I feel like not integrating those things in well to me in particular makes the motif usage clash

[deft lily]

and ppl who try and say otherwise or "that wasn't the only reason" are probably only here truly for the music

[plush carbon]

This is kind of a mountain out of a molehill thing i feel

[opaque plume]

yeah i think the mod got hard carried by it during "horse" era

[lyric vortex]

Yeah I literally discovered calamity through music

[opaque plume]

i discovered calamity before most of the ost even existed lol

[lyric vortex]

Probably the worst thing to happen was having stained brutal calamity as the first cal song I heard like brooo that should not be the first one at all

[deft lily]

not that thats a bad thing ofc.

since you are free to care abt whatever you wish

[opaque plume]

yeah

i think i mightve known about calamity before the original infernal catharsis(first calamity song by dokuro i think) even existed

[lyric vortex]

The only song that was made after I discovered it was toxic wisdom sheesh

[opaque plume]

i actually dont know how i originally discovered calamity

[lyric vortex]

Yeah it's always weird knowing yharon was the first theme and then cryogen being 2nd

[opaque plume]

i think it mightve been from like a happydays playthrough if people remember those lmao

[deft lily]

i discovered it through the OST, as per many ppl

[plush carbon]

Me too I think

[lyric vortex]

It was chippy s couch for me

[plush carbon]

Iirc

[deft lily]

again not that thats a bad thing its just how things happened

[plush carbon]

Idk the OST was what got me into it Imightve known about it beforehand given ive played Terraria a long time

[opaque plume]

this actually means i think its been about 9 years since i discovered calamity

[lyric vortex]

Damn

[opaque plume]

ive already talked about how this dog resprite was like crazy for me

2017 calamity was wild

[lyric vortex]

Was that the first sprite it had since it was a destroyer sprite with purple?

[opaque plume]

it had a few other ones

[deft lily]

kind of funny how most of the current cal community complains that DoG gets resprited all of the time but most of his resprites happened like 7 years ago

[opaque plume]

yeah

[high scaffold]

Truth

[deft lily]

and they've gaslighted themselves into a cesspit of bitching

[opaque plume]

this was his sprite before

[hasty tangle]

i started playing cal shortly before old duke released and dog STILL has the same sprite as when I started

[opaque plume]

so basically purple destroyer

[deft lily]

crazy

[opaque plume]

providence lmao

[high scaffold]

Dont complain about DoG resprites, better think about yharon sprite having minimal changes since its release

[plush carbon]

You've just summarised the entire tMod community

At large

[opaque plume]

its crazy how providences sprite is so good she literally doesnt need a new major one other than maybe like just clarifying some things on her current sprite

[lyric vortex]

Aquatic scourge and crabulon are the only ones to never have been resprited right?

[opaque plume]

crabulon has been resprited

[hasty tangle]

crab definitely has

[high scaffold]

Effect carried

[deft lily]

im ngl most people who hate calamity that i've come across aren't exactly the most rational of ppl in my experience

[plush carbon]

Polterghast is the other

[lyric vortex]

Oh

[plush carbon]

Sometimes theyre like wayyy worse than the actual fans

Trust me

[opaque plume]

i think some people have a lot of valid criticisms others just hate calamity to hate

[deft lily]

"i hate calamity im better than it"
looks inside
is a racist pos

[plush carbon]

Ive been in
Places

[mystic eagle]

I unknowingly stumbled upon it via GD, but MAD Episode 7 got me into Cal

[high scaffold]

Cant wait for hog wild to release and fix even more rough spots

[lyric vortex]

Geometry Dash?

[plush carbon]

Im very happy with Brainstorm
Tho i did accidentally break DoG

[mystic eagle]

Needless to say that was a wild introduction

[mystic eagle]

Indeed!

[opaque plume]

ive seen people complain about getting hog wild and not yharon rework like 😭

some people genuinely think the team can just make yharon rework that fast

[deft lily]

i think most people in tmod would agree that cal has a ton of serious issues, including people here in cal main
esp since pink pony bigot isn't around to throw a temper tantrum when someone mentions that master death prime is bad

[hasty tangle]

indeed, its quite a strange video to make you want to try calamity

[pulsar cobalt]

ive seen certain tmod servers where one mention of cal will cause a known member in the community to start bitching about it for like half an hour, saying stuff how its terrible and will never be good, how toxic the community is etc etc

[lyric vortex]

💀

[high scaffold]

Stupidity cannot be healed sadly

[deft lily]

i esp hate how ppl complain how toxic the cal community is but then proceed to try and use dm dokuro leaving as evidence of that

[opaque plume]

i think the community has definitely improved

[buoyant pulsar]

truth nuke

[opaque plume]

some people talk about this server like its hell and im like ???

[mystic eagle]

It was the first Calamity video I watched and it immediately got me hooked

[plush carbon]

I died to his God Does Not Fear Death portal charge but he didnt despawn
So when I came back he went and killed me again
Was funny

[opaque plume]

ive never really had a terrible experience here

[deft lily]

yeah at its worst its just a few outliers being annoying

which is funny cuz i used to have a burning hatred for this server lmfao

[mystic eagle]

Maybe not the first but the first one I remember

[plush carbon]

For as big a server as this is its pretty chill compared to smaller mod servers Ive been in

[lyric vortex]

Me neither really ngl despite being very active back in 2021

[high scaffold]

Since the fab stepped down and left, quite a lot

[plush carbon]

I guess the closer knit community in smaller servers allows easier echo chambers?

Idrk

[pulsar cobalt]

correct

[opaque plume]

they all got banished to the heat death universe from wotg

[pulsar cobalt]

that is often how it occurs

[deft lily]

in general, outside of fringe cases the cal community isn't as bad as ppl make it out to be. the constant worry of drama and bad actors is way overblown most of the time

[polar tide]

https://tenor.com/view/bingus-baby-cat-baby-bingus-adorable-baby-animals-gif-23361436

[deft lily]

what ht eufkc

[opaque plume]

i will say i do remember the time someone posted moon lord nsfw in chat while fabsol was there and they got instant banned lmao 😭

[pulsar cobalt]

i dont like the way these cats look...

theyre like weird alien things...

[deft lily]

interesting

[opaque plume]

bro probably copied it over to his own server before banning

[polar tide]

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[deft lily]

woag

[pulsar cobalt]

actually you know what they remind me of

[mystic eagle]

Excuse me?

[buoyant pulsar]

no theyr really good

[lyric vortex]

Ik this isn't really that bad of a thing but I wish the whole boss rush super challenge run type of players appreciated the other aspects of calamity more

[buoyant pulsar]

super squishable

[opaque plume]

this happened like 5 years ago at least lol

[dusk bronze]

chud

[pulsar cobalt]

you know those "realistic minecraft videos" from 2016? its like if someone did that for mew

[opaque plume]

it was kinda wild

[deft lily]

ehh as of now there isn't much non boss cal content for them to enjoy in the first place

[buoyant pulsar]

i love septic skewer can we talk about septic skewer

[deft lily]

at least none thats well fleshed out

[lyric vortex]

Fair

[opaque plume]

oh my god infernum youtube has some people of all time

[mystic eagle]

Makes sense, I started playing Vanilla 5 years ago tod- wait I've been playing Terraria for 5 years now? Crazy how fast time flies

[deft lily]

fryzahh jumpscare

[urban cloak]

the mod's been pretty boss rush centric for almost 10 years now and it's only just starting to make strides to stray away from that

[vocal kelp]

the soltuion is to kill every infernum fan

[opaque plume]

true

[buoyant pulsar]

true

[vocal kelp]

do you guys want an infohazard

[opaque plume]

i saw someone say brainstorm is bad because of the cosmolight change

[dusk bronze]

why not

[lyric vortex]

I feel like YouTubers should sorta take the blame because like challenge content is really what gets the views in Terraria

[urban cloak]

naturally there's gonna be a large amount of people who still prefer that playstyle
but hopefully in the future we can get people to appreciate the other aspects of gameplay

[hasty tangle]

oh no! anyway

[carmine pebble]

guys, quick question here

is someone beeing able to craft the gelatin crystal to defeat Queen slime?

[hasty tangle]

its literally impossible to please everyone

[dusk bronze]

very wrong channel

[opaque plume]

infernum players when they actually are supposed to slow down and do something thats not fighting bosses

[lyric vortex]

Gets the views to level of effort needed to make

[dull heart]

brainstorm is good because of the cosmolight change

[deft lily]

in my experience ppl who enjoy that playstyle aren't exactly the most thrilling to be around im ngl

[opaque plume]

i agree

[urban cloak]

not sure what item that even is but this is not something from calamity

[dull heart]

And because I worked on it ofc

[iron dew]

🔥

[deft lily]

so i rlly wouldn't be mad if they lurked off lmao

[dull heart]

dictionary definition of good: doze

[pulsar cobalt]

i think its fargos summon

[hasty tangle]

nah, cal is just very boss rushy

[carmine pebble]

its from calamity, its literally the summon item for Queen Slime

[deft lily]

i agree

[hasty tangle]

and its also kinda hard to make content on stuff that isnt bosses

[polar tide]

non boss stuff is way more fun to develop anyway in my humble opinion as someone who doesn't do any programming at all ever

[urban cloak]

i meant the thing you're using to craft it

[dusk bronze]

just go mine one it takes 4 seconds

[lyric vortex]

Yesss I was playing a cal multiplayer server and this guy literally would just fight every boss without us and there were like a lot of us too

[tropic jolt]

the solution is to KILL ALL QOL RIGHT NOW!!!

[carmine pebble]

crafting station bro

[hasty tangle]

not impossible, but not everyone is a master builder or video essay-ist

[deft lily]

i am the dictionary definition of splendid

[dusk bronze]

[opaque plume]

i think the biggest thing that made me realize non boss exploration stuff is cool was the abandoned lab from mor

[vocal kelp]

if you check every relatively popular mod or calamity related mod on the planet you will see something similar to this graphic, which is infernum's stats, have calamity to compare and see where calamity goes high but inf does not

[carmine pebble]

usually we dont mine it, we craft

[urban cloak]

this bro

[deft lily]

yeah

[carmine pebble]

that's sold from Mutant NPC, only when she's defeated

[urban cloak]

yeah

[urban cloak]

so the recipe isn't from calamity

[deft lily]

if im going to play cal with other ppl i want to take my time and
flips through notes
...actually play and enjoy terraria

🤯

[urban cloak]

therefore go ask the question in the fargos server

[tropic jolt]

chat is too active this is scary

[vocal kelp]

critically, here is magic storage, look how it compares to cal's. its rlly fucking funny

[lyric vortex]

Bro was seriously doing a "CAN I BEAT EVERY BOSS WITH THE HEALTH MULTIPLierOF 8 PEOPLE"

[carmine pebble]

it always was, idk what happened that i'm not beeing able to craft anymore

[tropic jolt]

what happened on april 4th

[deft lily]

he needs that one microscopic spec of dopamine

[carmine pebble]

that's the weird part

[urban cloak]

OH YEAH WE DID HAVE ONE i forgot

yeah that got killed in brainstorm

[opaque plume]

i actually spent a lot of time this last death mode playthrough building and i made some really cool builds

[urban cloak]

sorry!

[vocal kelp]

this one is recipe browser. its so fucking stupid. whya re they all thefucking same

[carmine pebble]

BRUH

[deft lily]

another reason brainstorm is good

[carmine pebble]

i'm screwed

[opaque plume]

let me pull up my favorite build real quick

[vocal kelp]

the same five spikes. the same five spikes. my tmod ub counts have the same five spikes

[urban cloak]

gelatin crystals spawn pretty frequently in the underground hallow you're fine

[mystic eagle]

Should I?

[urban cloak]

plus calamity makes it unconsumable

[carmine pebble]

the new way now is mining?

[pulsar cobalt]

no call it the heartlands

[mystic eagle]

No

[opaque plume]

i built this like mid pre hardmode

[urban cloak]

its true

[opaque plume]

and im like