#calamity-update-talk
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the universe doesnt know about my time machine
sure
you've doomed us all
lowd fabsol arc
dw i wont create exos
good ending
dont create old duke either please thanks
im making big brother fishron that is fought right after duke fishron and drops 3 duke fishron treasure bags
kills you
Even the news is mocking me
impossible
the hog always comes back
jokes aside thats horrible fuck that guy
I like
What bosses are getting resprited next update? Which I assume is the sunken sea update
it will not be the sunken sea update
you can read the second pin
and it is not yet known what bosses will be remade
AaaaaaAhhhhhhhh
Which one of you guys is this
doze
so youre doze
no im done
isnt what done would say
doze is done
calfans when reading
decrease your electronic device's aural output
-# also yes it was official theme
No doze is doze and done is done
Completely different people smh
what if done was calle finished
Impossible
but who decided that
secret third alt account trying to convince us that doze and done arent the same person
Coral scourge
wow I've never and I mean NEVER heard this joke before
what if done was called playstation network platinum trophy
wow I've never and I mean NEVER heard this joke before
what if I killed you
what if calamity was done I mean finished
haha
what if done was calamity
what if calamity was doze
done is doze is calamity
In the Calamity Lore, which bosses are already mentioned who still arent in the game? Are there many?
yharim, noxus, xeroc
Yharim, who will be added when the mod has reached a state the devs are satisfied with (years away), and will be the final boss
Noxus and Xeroc, who'll be optional superbosses after Yharim
Okay. That sounds great!
and also noxus and xeroc will only be added if the devs feel like it atp
so those two arent even guaranteed
atp stands for At The Point when everything else is released and is a fine enough state to put it to bed
Yeah, I heard thats the approach that the devs are going for. Polish the mod then finalise it.
polish is an understatement, things are getting reworked and overhauled
reborn as lotus flowers
I just hope the Draedon Labs blocks stay literiall everything I have build is made out of these haha
Sorry. Im replacing them with cheese puffs.
But I like the approach. For me the mod needs to get better and more epic than Infernum so its not necessary anymore
😮
Primordial wyrm too
Eidolon wyrm =/= primordial wyrm afaicg
yeah there are eidolon wyrms (post polter miniboss) and primordial wyrm (postgame hiddne boss)
Aren’t the mini bosses juvenile eidolon wyrms
ah, apologies then
One of the best arts ingame 🙂
I think the calamity devs are all very talented people. Its always great to see how much love is in each update.
2.1. was a great rework, better than infernum boc
Is the calamity code clean or do also a lot of work is being put into making the code itself better in its structure?
I heard that there needs to be cleaned a lot since the beginning it was written "poorly" at many areas.
alot of the old systems are getting changed i believe
such as the the way debuffs are handled
As a programmer myself I do know how much work it is to rework code. Especially such a massive mod.
if it gives you an idea of fabsol code, doze could not figure out how to give polterghast one singular new attack
it would be easier to rewrite it entirely than add one attack
incredible
HAHAHAHA. Seems to be perfectly readable.
I cant even imagine writing code thats this bad.
Srry was already answered :D.
What exactly was Fabsol working on? I mean all the areas, many items and the progression is very fun and balanced. For me most of the calamity bosses (since 2.1. boc is great!) are a bit "poorly" done. Its because Fabsol was the only one allowed to work on them right?
fabsol created and owned calamity and absolutely refused to let anyone else make bosses
he also constantly added things from games he liked without thinking about their implementation at all
point blank, for example. fab added it to the entire ranger class after playing ultrakill, in which point blank is an interaction between ONE weapon and ONE enemy
Yeah that sounds kinda weird. But he do managed to make all bosses word so he do is decent in coding. I mean the bosses arent trash but a bit outdated.
he was obsessed with senator armstrong for some reason
constantly talking about how he wanted yharim to be like him
fabosses didn't even work at all sometimes! did you know that 2.1 had to make skeletron completely lose its calamity ai in multiplayer because it was breaking so hard
I actually bought my pc about 2 months ago just for Terraria because a Friend sold his one. Actually just to play calamity because I had over 2K hours in Terraria on Playstation. I have to admit that Calamity is a incredible experience but it do lacks at some points. Therefore I am very happy to see that the team again can work properly on it after Fabsol left.
Ngl currently I wouldnt play it without Infernum or maybe I just dontz gave it enough tries wirthout Infernum but im sure in a few years this mod will absolutely be dominating the market :D.
or did you know that 2.0.4 master-revengeance skeletron prime (the one that's Oblivion Exxo Avalon) caused players to physically fuse together in multiplayer
I asked previously about the bosses mentioned which yet have 2 be added. Especially Xeroc and Noxus. I think what really is missing in Calamity is in wrath of the gods. After beating the last boss, a few extreme ultra gods are waiting to be slayed :D.
Yeah sounds very buggy and poorly coded.
But if the team now tries to fix the old code and develop the new one in a way its sustainable and structured it will be better over time to redesign things more often and add stuff.
one of my favorite anecdotes is fabsol absolutely hated that people liked hive mind. because he didn't make it. Terry N. Muse (yes, the one from fargo's) made it
Well, he was called Calamity Hitler before.
Why do you know so much are you a dev without the role in DC?
he's not hitler by any means
the overwhelming majority of things people call hitler aren't halfway close to hitler
I think he was a nice guy just with a few flaws
nice?
Like I dont know him personally just heard a bit. Could be that he wasnt nice
I am actually pretty new to this dc 🙂
he constantly manipulated and berated everyone else on the team, he spent patreon donations reserved solely for him on commissioning [Not Saying This], and he encouraged minors to draw [Not Saying This]
😮 is this true?
Crazy
I see, calamity also has a void century ...
I just heard a bit about fabsol because I was researching a bit about calamity overall. I did it because after the draedon update from 2021 it felt so that calamity wasnt really adding much more stuff. Like 2021 was such a big update and then nothing new endgame related but now I know that since 2025 the dev is on good pace again and devs want to remake a lot :).
I will forever stand by the fact that fab leaving was the best thing to ever happen to calamity
and for tmod as a whole rlly
But why did he left? Because he owned this mod you just cant ban him right?
And uim sure he dont wanted to leave it
it was either he left or the whole dev team would've left if he stayed
an ultimatum of sorts
fabsol is literally a chud
anybody who defends him is either not in the know of what he did or is just as a horrible person as he is.
is all ill say in that regard.
Mfw I just realized chud is the opposite of chad
woag
Hey umbii
Ok sure
umbara is the opposite of swag
Is that a presidental hog?
Gm CD
hello cd
woag
Also CD do you know if Heart got her computer fixed yet?
That escalated quickly xD
she has yes
I've made the grave mistake of buying GD
she’s just working on other stuff rn
I cant stop playing it
Ah so I guess the musiccord being relatively inactive is for other reasons
i’m sorry to hear that LOL
(I was up all night as well)
That means if Fab didnt left he would be the only person who would actively develop the mod?
yeah pretty much
Because everyone would´ve left?
pretty much, calamity would be dead
crazy!
you wouldn’t have brainstorm or any of the other things we’re working on now if he didn’t leave
GreenMusic
"any of the other things we’re working on now" :O. I NEED INFO!!! XDDD
🙁
L
HUGE L dear Mr. DBMusic
Can't wait until fabsol makes his evil calamity that finally lets him add oblivion maximus as he was destined to do, if it wasn't for those pesky artists that held him back
true!
in the meantime i’ve been working on smth that’s genuinely been pushing my computer to its limits memory wise
calamity fabful
is he still working on that project with like 11 nebula booster buffs or whatever
Probably
like idling the project file has my memory sitting at 94-96% usage
knowing how spiteful he is i doubt he'll give up on it anytime soon
Not that itll mean much given that nobody in tmod likes his dumb ass
beside, well
other bigots
btw is there any way to see the dev of wrath of the gods 2? Is there a dc or so?
ok ty
im guessing wotg2 is just the working name?
and its not actually gonna be called that 
but it is being dev right?
idk
yeah
lucille is working on it, yes
poor computer
nice would be cool to have one that is its own mod that can be adapted to all other ones.
its the same mod, just not gonna be tied to calamity anymore
i’m excited personally considering how good wotg is rn
I hope it will be playable with wrath of the gods. Or is it the first one just better with the same bosses added to it?
for some reason he just despawns mid fight for me
i trust lucille’s vision and trust that she’ll cook hard
Whats the vision?
idk
a vision
xD
i know about as much as everyone else
but considering her previous work i think she’ll make something awesome with the rest of wotg team
AoE is the best fight in modded terraria imo
is it a 1 dev team?
I will die on that hill
no, but its directed and mostly coded by lucille
it has artists, spriters, testers, musicians, etc
but its spearheaded by lucille
Sounds cool. Hope it will air this year :D.
anyways imma go shower now bye
bye
bb 🙂
Have you ever tried Fargos? Would like to once play it with the masochist mode.
Currently got 200h on my calamity playtrough and im currently at golem haha. Building most of the time.
I think the style is a bit weird. Calamities bosses look and feel more epic and better overall
I frankly dont know much abt it other than that its super difficult
hi alex!!
As far as i know it's going to expand on stuff that is underbaked in the current wotg. Like Solyns character development and general worldbuilding?
Hi 🙂
Scratch mah Bellayyyyy
Ohh ... So could it be that the current bosses will be in the new one too?
That would be cool!
I believe Lucille made it so ND doesn't require a subworld anymore? I need to double check
win
W
lucille posts clips of what shes doing in caldev server and it looks crazyyyyyyy
Avatar and nameless will stay and be improved, and mars will be entirely replaced with something new i believe
I try to do all side bosses to but Dreadnauticulus and this green big belly fish in the ocean are just weird to spawn.
do you mean leviathan??? lol
Takes too long especially in infernum you need a few tries
oh, yeah haha
good
fuck mars
his theme is cool but I hate everything else abt him
there's a spawn item for leviathan but i dont remember if you need to beat her to craft it
Yeah I need to beat him first
her
leviathan is a girl fish. follow for more cool calamity facts
if you say so umabra

Btw thats a good point. I feel like im missing the entire calamity lore. What should I do to fully experience it?
summoning cheese in 5
Me if I was a girl
im really sorry but calamity lore cannot be fully experienced right now
a lot of that information isn't in game
ok
pay a monthly subscription to have access to the full experience
also give us your government ID
xD
its about the kids trust
one of the biggest focuses of our future updates is storytelling and getting the lore into the game
I can give you my ID but I’m poor so idk about the money
For his medical expenses following the bed incident?
But I like it that calamity still has a dedicated team and a huge community because its just a great mod.
5 little ozzatrons jumping on the bed

And now he needs YOU to subscribe to calamity patreon
💀
🪷
Have the team ever thought about doing sth. like wotg did with solyn? Like cool conversations through the story. I think that would be cool. Then the progression could be more clear and the npc´s could tell a lot about the lore.
all the time
thats planned, yes
absolutely firecracker
i
Where can I find the update doc?
pinned message
ty
But it only shows the changelogs. I know I was on a document which was all about upcoming updates like the exo suits
Go to the pinned comments of this channel specifically
I'm not on my PC so I don't knowww
Nice
Whats that hahaha
I actually love these designs here. But I think it will take a long time to see it ingame ...
It's beautiful I miss him so much🥹
hahaha yeah its great
idk why but i love the idea of amidias having a very kind face but when he smiles he looks like the joker
like that medic tf2 comic panel
jonkler was the reference for the drawing right
Nice pfp garbo
onward my stomper
Tofu peaked once again
ok i found it
Amidias becomes the attached image in gfb
Who is amidias?
Sea King
the sea king NPC
guy who falls out of giant clam
Remember a blue npc?
HAHAHA now I get the joke nice
yeah haha nice one
Amidias gfb
I just hope that sunken sea really is just paused and not actualle being scrapped in the background. Looked like a cool update.
Of course not lol
BRO XD
They can't rework everything and then leave sunken sea rotting like that forever
i haveto get 70 questions worth of genetics homework done today
Nefarious omega amidias
Is that you
Is the Pepsi being pumped into the hog or extracted?
iv drip
Pumped of course clearly
Well there’s a bit of separation of the liquid in the bottle
We all reject the true intent of this meme
the intention of the image is obviously that its being extracted from the pig but it being an iv drip is so much funnier and also how i first interpreted the image
The hog is being filled with Pepsi inshallah
the first interpretation is horrific and the second is really funny
IV drip gfb should be Pepsi IV drip
Yeah me too lol
so i choose to believe its an IV drip too
the patient needs pepsi max to live
Me after 10 hour shift
it feels like something PETA would post
Someone please edit this image so that Pepsi is upside down.
-_-

Not what I wanted but... It works...?
@pseudo vector please tell me to do my homework when you're back from showering
When was the first time u played calamity? For me my first playthrough started like 2 months ago.
I played terraria and calamity for the first time last year
But overall u all played not too long ago 🙂
There are some people here that are ancient in the community though
uhh like a few days before 1.5 released
I don’t think I’ve been on terraria in a hot minute

i thought 1.5 was in 2020
1.5 was ~ 4 years ago? What was the last update before 2.0?
no it was at the end of 2021
oh kk
oh that also makes sense
rust and dust was 2020
1.5.3.6
and Draedon was in the 2.X right?
draedon was in 1.5
draedon was 1.5
I think I technically tried calamity like 2020-2021 ish but I killed a cyst and spawned perfs and they wouldn’t despawn so they kept killing me and I uninstalled
i love kittys so much
For me every 2.X seems to be a major update right? 2.2 seems kinda like a filler patch from how big it looks to be.
Or am I wrong?
2.0 was a port
do your homework
2.1 was the single biggest update in calamity history
Even bigger than 1.5?
thank you bro. 10 million kittys upon you
yes
nevermind you posted the pig so no kittys for you
But wasnt 2.1 only boc rework and 1 new resprite of the wyrm + just weapon reworks? 1.5 was 3 new bosses + the draedon line.
lol
exos are one boss
I have to take a closer look on 2.1
2.1 is the largest update in cal history by a very wide margin
2.1 is like hundreds of reworks
tought iot was small
2.1 had a shit ton of smaller changes
not in the slightest
it's bigger than the 2nd and 3rd biggest combined iirc
just because it didnt add a new boss doesnt mean its a small update
although
it technically did
theres far far more in the game than bosses
cause new BoC is completely different
crazy I tought 2.1. was mainly boc haha
Like fishing!
lol
2.1 had boc and dog reworks
just go look at the 2.1 wiki page and you'll see what we mean
future updates may not necessarily add new bosses, but the boss reworks will essentially feel like completely new fights
as well as major changes to scal and calclone and ravager
the day ravager dies and is reborn into a lotus flower
Where does ravager even fit into the lore
it was one of the main additions the update was named after but not the only thing implemented
hes ravager
BRO 2.1 WIKI is like a 500 page long book!!!
corpse of a dead god
its a dead god resurrected by its followers
the god of sacrifice or whatever
Ok
I will need like 2 years of studying to get through the entire 2.1 update log HAHAHA
it went evil mode and killed all the followers immediately
My TModLoader is still on 1.4.4.9 or so not 1.4.5. wasnt 2.1 for 1.4.5+?
no
k
tMod 1.4.5 has yet to be properly released to the public
It probably won’t be for a long time
Like if all upcoming boss reworks will be as good as boc in 2.1 it will be insane. Would love to see a lot of resprites like for poltergeist.
not until later this year
I take everything back ... 2.1. isnt just boc rework and a few changes. Its like the size of a entire new mod.
crazy!
Tought it was a smaller update.
I started my first playthrough in 2.1. maybe therefore I never noticed it
calamity npc and quest economy
STOP
pig
Pih
dont stop
nah im bored
Were there a malice and legendary mode at some point?
modern malice requires legendary mode
Saw it here
and also legendary mode is a vanilla difficulty and has been for awhile now
its just on one seed right?
either FTW or GFB
kk
malice mode is just ftw death with legendary mode stat scaling iirc
Vanillin npc and quests
Guys do I buy a ps5 with my next paycheck?
no buy a hog
why would you ever do that when you could buy something actually useful instead
Bloodborne
not worth $800 or however much that console costs 
EoW plushie
also yeah fuck the ps5
Both my brothers also have one so I’d probably get it to play Nightreign with them too
And it’s not like I can’t afford it
order a custom aureus plushie
U already have a pc?
Yuh
quest to put you in the brazen bull
reward gives you 3 canadian pennies
😭 ??? What I do
nothing its funny
Double it and give it to the next person named kiri
Oh wait there is only one kiri
Sorry
HE IS HERE

my chud husband
your chud husband hasnt reworked the exo mechs smh
Gamer robot
He’s too busy polluting
First time I've heard of this pairing

It's the only good one.
yeah
though i only got draedon
fatass
Be sure to punt him across the room
shut up sɥɐɹʞ
What is a krahs
⏳


Damn, no more changelogs...
I kinda get it though. Little things are prone to changing in development cycles and you don't want people to overreact to things without proper context
Changelogs channel is dead lets goo🥹
Better to tease more complete features and then release the changelogs with the update itself when we have the context (playability) to react to them
meow
also the number of times something would be added the changelogs only for it to be removed/changed again before the update even releases
it was a really messy and bad system overall
astral undergrowth...
this slam is slam killing slam tradition slam #so mad
who even invented it in the first place fabsol probably
yeah you answered that for yourself
Remove the astral instead /j
ohj my god he is still on discord
yeah ur mod u saw what i sent
he keeps changing pfps so embarassing
2.2.0
1 - Removed #changelogs - Done ✅

Slash ban unbara
its unbarable
Calamity update talk officially killed with no changelogs
i would NEVER hit done
kid named Done
changelogs is die.....no
yoo they stole the hp bar and murasama from calamity!!!
hello everynyan
yknow when people change their usernames to stuff like "im gone"
what if instead they said "dissolved"
im no longer dissolved
wholesome taco
no!
it was chicken
(Read: Yes!)
yes! = no
is that how factorial words work
not quite
no! = false! = (0)! = 1 = true = yes
but not the other way around, since 1! is just 1

Gotta love the logic behind 0! being 1
“There’s 1 way you can have nothing, and that’s nothing”
I have killed the changelogs they are no more /j
Hog today for sure
changehog never

horrible hog is shrinking
thats not a changehog, thats a shrinkhog
though i suppose one could argue shrinking is a form of change
No changelogs, caldev anxiety economy is in shambles
Naaah just kidding you guys are always stressing
How did you make the emotes smaller?
They’re not smaller they’re moving away
Oh
death: It's time to go.
#changelogs: Was I a good channel?
death: No.
I heard you were the best.
change best to worst and i think thats morr accurate methinks
You and I will have a talk later.
no
👹
Are you sure?
You horrible'd your last hog...
changelogs never 
Horrible Hog added - Done ✅
if hog wins 🤢 🤢
if horrible wins 😄 😄
if horrible hog updates 

made me laugh good job
I much prefer the approach of teasers and devblogs over changelogs anyways
are you the inspector
Is we get more poilers in the poiler channel I'm good with change🪵 dying
its likely spoilers will be more common but it obviously wont be a replacement to changelogs
youre not gonna know when 252 - Completely changed Master Rev+ Queen Bee Honey Hornet movement to be more enjoyable to fight against and made them draw on top of their hitbox. - Done ✅
changelogs NEVER
you guys should spend a spoiler to compesnate for the changelog death right fucking now do it now right now do it now save me save me release me help
let tofu post deilings in spoilers
eats them all
yes
fine
i love this pig hes so cute
Where is Astral Undergrowth
nuh uh it says it was added
???
it's my favorite addition to the calamity mod for terraria
This is one of my favorites
see?
changelogs is ... archived media ??!?
Other classics include:
over there
Only sad thing is we never got a "added ragebait" changelog

True, a casualty of war
Last changelog should have been “removed changelogs” smh my head

Removed #changelogs. - Done ✅
I mean i think changelogs will still be real, but just on the wiki
As update changelogs?
how could done do this...
Just the channel #changelogs exploded
Changelogs including balance changes but not the bug fixes explaining why they’re happening was funny, cause that led to stuff like “Buffed Flak Kraken”
Buffed Flak Kraken was peak
As they always have
WAIT WHAT
i thought that was a distant future thing
not. planned for 2.1
fuckkk
?
it wasnt on 2.1
It was planned for like 2.0.2
it was uhhh
2.0.3
what
hellish harbour

like where the fuck did this supposed new biome go
(it was literally just very wip hpu resprites iirc)
Right
astral undergrowth is like calamity mod herobrine
lmao
no
theyre on to something
whaats astral undergrowth
It had no enemies or anything, it was literally just jungle tiles but astral'd
Iirc
Implementing GFB changes when GFB doesn’t exist
whats an astral undergrowth
scroll up
I ate mud once
:shrug
yeah
i like 'pot of pain'
this truly is a tragedy for mura fans
What?
🐌
Since the tyrants sought to usurp me.
he ate your status as god of snails
the sea is getting hotter around you
it already did
draedon banging out the tunes
"How is the rat nowadays?"
🐀

I am 50 years old
Done is older
done is 9 seconds old
What about carny
Done is 45 true
i am doze
if there was a live action calamity movie who will play horrible hog
Played by himself.
Praying for your dev vanity
me too...
WHY WOULD YOU SAY THIS
You seem older
the only elderly developer was the late merkalto
my age is on my profile
You
So he is 39?
77
777
How old is the powerful ozzatron
lotus flowers
Ageless.
😱😱😱
i'd believe it!
U seem like 23
close
22
there is no way youre older than 15 with the memes you send
Inner 7 year old from a 70 year old

That's being generous
Sometimes just gotta unleash the inner child instinct
This server is dedicated to making people feel old.
everyone who's not me is either ancient or infant
That already happens enough irl for me
Or that one guy I met who shared my exact birthday
Tell me about it.
All my students think i'm in my 30s
Swimming instructor
Happens.
(Not even 20 yet)🙏
DAMN IT!
im 68 years old
How were they?
can you teach me how to design good worm bosses
🤨
Are you... invoking us?
no
Invoked stargod, if it ever gets finished, will NOT be a good example of a good worm boss
It's so fundamentally not possible with that length
oh yeah i love [redacted]
unless I give him a whole subworld....
can't wait to see what you do with [redacted]
shut up you don't even know what I'm talking about
doze stop leaking
no
Finally, the Moon!
can youo help me with trigonometry this fall :)
uhh maybe
I was teaching 5th grade so like
my trig might be rough but it would be good for me to study up anyway tbh
wait slay
triangle
SOHCAHTOA
Good or bad flashbacks?

Equivalent exchange
ive never done trigonometry before i jusr know that by december i am going to be sick to bastard death of triangles
John 'Gravity' Falls:

No.
Developer can kill.
Developer
not accurate he doesnt dash away leaving behind 8 defense
wheres the projectile vomit smh
you green needle your way through it?
Okay so genuine idea for the plague bringer. Makes a new mini biome that replaces bee hives after killing plantera. The Plague Bringer Goliath will have a summoning block inside the hives and plague enemies will spawn on the surface where the plague hives are located.
giant hive 2: green edition
I think a plagued hive would look more like a factory than a regular hive.
Yeah for sure. Lore wise it could be that Goliath managed to break out of contaminated and starting reproducing on its own. Creating the regular pleage bringer and the pleage radiation from the hive corrupting creatures on the surface
no
The Plaguebringer Goliath was broken out of containment by Yharim, wouldn't call that 'managed' more like 'accidentally left a newly created impromptu window open'.
Okay that makes sense
Some iteration of a plague biome will probably be made in the future
Raccoon City biome confirmed.
i really do not like plague biome idea because of lore reasons i wuold need to like have a conversation with writers to be convinced
I mean, it's an all consuming onslaught of nanomachines that will either assimilate or cull all in its path.
A region being overtaken isn't far fetched.
it's not supposed to infect plants
You know, what, find a source on that.
finding a source on how to bake u to the right temperature
source: it was made specifically to control animals
Weaponised hayfever
My only problem with the Plague in the Jungle is there isn't any visual effect besides the enemies and the only build up to it is the Jungle Draedon Lab
I just realized the plague and the astral infection are the opposites, one was invented on Terraria to control organic life, the other was a byproduct of space that controls inorganic life
Ah, right mb
u are like ash and bone
Random thought: are there any plans to give the spine trees in the brimstone crag the ability to be shaken and to drop fruits like all other “trees”? Like its kinda weird how they are barely even trees gameplay wise
Bone fruit
Like its kinda weird how they are barely even trees gameplay wise
tbf i think thats the intent
theyre like glowing mushrooms if anything
and those dont have "fruits" either
Glowing mushrooms can still be shaken tho
Nah bone fruit for the win
They sometimes drop mushroom seeds but like spine trees just cant be shaken
Did they patch them dropping acorns?
Also scorched bones lacking any furniture set or set of “wood” items is also kinda weird since they are the trees of the crag
They don’t even got platforms
scorched bones furniture would be awesome
I will say i think people take the "lore can be changed thing" a bit to a extreme where sometimes it feels like theres a lack of respect to how writing lore is an effort that takes time and skill to do
However,
yeah i cant lie this definitely could be changed if it were to be a barrier to making a plague biome its such a small and incosequential detail
Plague enemies randomly spawning is extremelyt jarring and i say this as a massive lore nerd
The idea of a plague biome being stopped by such small lor details would make me boar myself
or a structure, anything
also its not supposed to do x is a bad idea cuz like
just Please Something
the plague literally self evolves it can do whatever the fuck it wants
also that yeah so u can justify it even With that bit of lore existing pretty easily
if the writers can justify the plague gaining the ability to infect plants they can just do that
Honestly the idea of the plague just not being able to infect plants sounds kind of weird
That’s you though
we get plague plantera
no i mean like after plantera
since plantera isnt there to defend since its Dead, the plague spreads to the place and you can find PBG larva in there
I’d imagine if it were to take over the vernal pass it wouldn’t happen directly after plantera cos youd then see it sudden;y occur, so it should in that probably be after golem’s defeat
we should fight plant corpse taken over by the plague
It could just be that like it was plantera’s defeat that allowed it but it took its time so it takes until golem’s defeat to actually become massive
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What was the reason the debuff element system exists, again?
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like tornado irl?
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I remember something about it having to do with making debuff builds stronger/more viable, but i think the system even if it does make them stronger still feels very jank
It only makes certain enemies/bosses weaker to certain debuffs which is unecessarily convoluted, besides adding a entire new problem that didn't exist before of needing to make sure debuff variety exists throughout progression between the different elements
Besides that, it's not really particularly interactive and all it really amounts to is using specific debuffs against certain enemies
And i think if one wanted to make debuff-focused builds more viable, it'd be much more fun to focus on items and accessories that give debuffs unique interactions and mechanics
I remember we discussed wanting to get rid of enemy resistances and weaknesses, or at least massively diminishing them
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But still keep the elemental system
im jking the tornado dint even hit me
I think Doze gave a explanation about it a long time ago but i don't actually remember what it was
did u dodge then like fishron tornado
I just vaguely remember the "make debuff systems more viable" thing which as i said i still don't think the system accomplishes, or, well
it might but if it does it does it in a rather unsatisfying and mechanically artifical way
it really is no different from just making debuffs deal more damage to make them more viable except it has extra steps
So now you have to pick specific debuffs fro certain enemies, i guess
more focus should be on making debuffs more than just dots impo
I agree actually yeah
like most of them r kinda the same
There's so, so many debuffs taht are all like
the same exact thing
but with more/less damage
hey sometimes u get -5% contact damage
90% of them are just take x damage/second
And i think making debuffs more interesting to use would benefit far, far more from making debuffs more diverse and fun
than just adding this system that i think is already pretty heavily criticized to sorta bandaid fix it
I mean hell i don't think i've ever seen anyone go "wow i love the calmaity elemental debuff system it's so fun" so it feels like its in that boat of
"most players just kinda know it exist but dont really care much for it one way or the other"
and the ones that arent are boss slows which are not majorly noticeable most of the time nor are they consistent because of the internal cooldown
so in other words they're kinda in the same boat of bosses where most of them are just really mid and nobody gaf
all i know is that yharon is weak to sickness 🤷♀️
yeah that says alot about how engaged people are in this system lol
tldr its a balance nightmare
How so
Some of them are pretty cool
Eutrophication is a great one
bro i tried scorched earth with daawnlight and i GENUINELY MELTED scal bruh
as soon as you start stacking multipliers it gets very batshit very quickly until you hit a boss thats immune to that debuff
Albeit with some strange behaviours on the plaguebringer mini boss things
Okay but,,, can't you just rework/remove those multipliers sthen
maybe too overkill oops
take smthn like vital sprout which has a debuff scaled with summon slots. it had to be both better against resistant enemies and weaker on effective enemies
I understand it might take time and effort to do so so maybe that's why
ranger is crazy
There might be plans to do so in the future but it's a big undertaking so they haven't yet
But if there are no plans at all to do so due to those balance issues i'd find it to be a bit odd
Cuz this seems like a self-made issue entirely, no?
After they get affected they seem to just fly in place even after the debuff wears off
debuffs inherently have WAY stronger scaling because they're a constant source of damage which means you cant skew their damage with aggression and also there are less sources of scaling for them
the issue is that vanilla's core mechanics really aren't good
and it's a lot of work to improve
debuff boosting only becomes an issue with enemy resistances and weaknesses
like again, viral sprout with debuff boosting isnt an issue
the issue is also balancing it around enemies having resistances and weaknesses
Hard disagree on that one ...
vanillas core mechanics are fine
Terraria isn't a perfect game by no means but this is entirely a self-made issue by the sound of it,
they arent exceptional in either direction
and if one wants to improve on existing vanilla mechanics
There are far better ways to do it
i'm not saying they don't work for the terraria experience
i'm saying they're not good
regular enemies are unengaging
events are terribly structured
debuffs are uninteresting
biome spread is tacked on
despite all this, terraria is still very fun
but it would be a much better experience if these had depth
scorched earth is better than magnomaly?
Debuffs are designed to be secondary sources of damage, not primary
If one wants to make the possibility of debuffs as a more substantial, primary source of damage in certain loadouts, artifically adding enemy vulnerability to certain debuffs is a really uninteresting and janky way of doing it that creates several new issues of its own (Making sure bosses throughout progression don't generally prioritze certain debuffs to be vulnerable/resistant to as to not skewer in favour towards specific elements being stronger, making sure there's debuff element variety throughout progression, etc.)
Better ways of doing so would be to add debuffs that affect enemies in more unique ways over just the usual Deal Damage over Time (Electricity debuff in vanilla only deals damage when entities are moving. You could add debuffs taht only deal damage to enemies covered in water/liquid, debuffs that make enemies receive way more knocback, debuffs that make enemies receive big bursts of damage after taking enough hits, debuffs that make enemies take more damage frm certain classes, etc. Just random ideas) and also to add items and equipment that "buff" debuffs in more interesting ways over just... This specific category of debuffs is stronger and enemies take More damage from these specific debuffs
That's my thesis on elemental debuffs thanks for reading
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yeah this would be good
electrified is funny
