#calamity-update-talk

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vivid hemlock
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its more barren than the desert

blazing field
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no genuinely

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the ocean IS more barren than the desert

drifting rune
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did the game get easier?
i havent played in a year or so and i only played on reavengance and back then it felt like a bit of a challenge(i suck at terraria)
but now it feels WAYYYY easier

blazing field
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with all the changes the desert got its objectively more lively

lyric trellis
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Reminds me that apparently there was some old pre-22 cal plan to add a trench to the normal ocean? Which sounds funny when the Abyss already exists

blazing field
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mod isnt trying to focus on difficulty

earnest jewel
blazing field
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but then uhh sulphur sea was manifested somehow

drifting rune
urban cloak
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i wouldn't mind cal doing something to the regular ocean tho

lyric trellis
urban cloak
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but like another trench would be boring

blazing field
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anahita caverns

urban cloak
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abyss exists for that

blazing field
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where you fight hit boss anahita

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tbh a series of tunnels that lead to a big open cavern where you fight analevi in actually sounds kind of awesome

earnest jewel
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Coral reef?

high scaffold
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I kinda wanna do anahita as first boss

earnest jewel
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You can.

terse dew
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😁

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I was there when the ancient texts were written

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3000 years ago

lyric trellis
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Merkalto would’ve saved the oceans

vivid hemlock
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confirmation that merkalto was there when the sphinx was built

terse dew
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I would've made sulphurous sea piss yellow again

dusk bronze
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google getfixedboi

terse dew
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Base game

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🙄

hushed mountain
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lord and savior merkalto

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why did the sound for switching difficulty modes get changed

deft lily
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hi

blazing field
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merkalto dosen't know

hushed mountain
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dangit.

deft lily
hushed mountain
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it woulda been funny.

deft lily
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boom

blazing field
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merkalto is merkalto

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isnt that right merkalto

lyric trellis
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I forgot how ugly the sea used to be, I mean the enemies and blocks are still brown and messy but the piss really was bad

dusk bronze
hushed mountain
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but merkalto is our lord and savior #evil

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he would know everything... (totally)

blazing field
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great sentence

deft lily
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me when enabling revengeance: 🎸
me when enabling death: 👿

earnest jewel
dusk bronze
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wasn't the death activation sound the exact same as demonshade enrage

earnest jewel
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Put some respect on our overlord.

hushed mountain
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merkalto would never be so cruel..

deft lily
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thesound for enabling death mode tho is sick

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makes me feel evil and malicious

hushed mountain
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he ensures that my eidolist tablet drops arent garbage (ill now get them every 10 kills instead of 20)

blazing field
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merkalto healed my grandma 😊

hushed mountain
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merkalto hides my speedrun timer

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:(

earnest jewel
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Merkalto is my landlord.

lyric trellis
vivid hemlock
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did he revive her

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wtf

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impossible

blazing field
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yep thats just how good merkalto is

hushed mountain
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yeah merkalto made permafrost good for reviving people irl

vivid hemlock
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merkalto please rework all bosses and deliver punishment to the sinners

blazing field
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merkalto is just a funny man

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a funny little guy

deft lily
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merkalto is evil and wants to kill everyone

tropic jolt
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merkalto and good in the same sentence

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nice try fed

deft lily
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u cant fool me....

wide raven
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Honestly I want to see more Plague versions of jungle enemies

dense sundial
blazing field
vivid hemlock
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^^^^^^

blazing field
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just adding more plaguefied jungle enemies won't really make it more interesting or fix any of the issuess wtih it, if anything id argue itd make them worse

earnest jewel
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Plague should infect enemies directly.

lyric trellis
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Plague that infects hive blocks when

earnest jewel
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Plague Hive would be a cool structure actually.

vivid hemlock
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seeing plague enemies kill and infect other animals would actually b cool

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yk

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u see them doing what theyre said to do

wide raven
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Yeah honestly making the plague kinda like a mini corruption would be cool

vivid hemlock
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biome spread...

wide raven
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Not a full blow corruption

blazing field
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the plague right now is extremely ouf o place (a bunch of plague enemies just spawning in the jungle with no sort of plague worldgen or anything else to reflect the plague's consequences on the enviroment)
all of the enemies are largely uninteresting with no complex or fun behaviors
and despite having so many diff enemies all of them ust drop the same shit which coupled with their lack of interesting behavior makes their existence largely redudant

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like you could make it so its literally just plague chargers and itd essentially be the same

vivid hemlock
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plague also kinda like bloats jungle content even more especially when most of the items are not great, so many weapons for one area...

blazing field
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yeah plague is the

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textbook definition rn of quantity over quality

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in every aspect

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a bunch of shitty enemies, way too many items

earnest jewel
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You get access to Jungle stuff which unlocks Jungle stuff which unlocks Jungle stuff.

wide raven
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Yeah the jungle basically has everything

fierce hearth
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There isn't even a particularly good lore reason for plague showing up. Like... you beat the jungle's protector idol deity and that makes Draedon's bioweapon show up? Why? There's nothing indicating that Golem was keeping Draedon's weapons suppressed.

earnest jewel
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I think it'd make way more sense if it was post-Plantera, or earlier.

lyric trellis
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Should definitely spawn from Plantera probably that’d at least make a bit more sense

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And or you unleash it yourself but that’s more effort

fierce hearth
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God I'm thinking about boss order in HM again and getting sick

vivid hemlock
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guh

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vanilla alr makes hm progression funny and calamity kinda makes it even worse 😭

dusk bronze
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does anyone have that old drataliornus art by i think mihaii?

fierce hearth
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The pacing of HM is so momumentally fucked because bosses were added with only 1 mechanical boss actually being relevant since you'd unlock mats to trivialize the subsequent 2

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But then the early-hm rework got added as did Queen Slime

fierce hearth
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So now we went from effectively 4 pre-plant bosses to 8

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And it's sooooo crowded

dusk bronze
wide raven
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Also the plague mini boss is so annoying. Like oh your trying to mine in the jungle

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Nah random queen bee

vivid hemlock
dusk bronze
fierce hearth
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Ppl have brought up that Aureus feels like it should be pre-plant mechanically and I agree, but then you have to reckon with how many bosses are already pre-plant

lyric trellis
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Jungle Scoria

wide raven
urban cloak
vivid hemlock
hollow harness
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biggest drop pool before and now its plantera I think?

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or queen bee

vivid hemlock
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pbg was like the most egregious example of the plague being just 1 million weapons

hollow harness
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that's it? all the plague content?

lyric trellis
hollow harness
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bloat the boss with all the weapons ever and with an extra material for even more items

wide raven
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Honestly Aureus needs a rework

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You can literally farm him for his drops like really early in hardmode

urban cloak
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its kind of staggering just how much content the plague has when you take a step back and actually analyze it

fierce hearth
earnest jewel
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You know what, just make PBG post-Moon Lord. Make the Jungle important every stage of the game. Make the people suffer.

urban cloak
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barely any in-world presence and it fades into obscurity right after you beat its signature boss which you're expected to fight right after golem

vivid hemlock
# wide raven Honestly Aureus needs a rework

all bosses need reworks i dont care what people say about provi or scal theyre gonna look dated when the other bosses get reworked even if they get new visual upgrades 🙂‍↕️

urban cloak
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yet it has a ton of items for some unknown reason

hollow harness
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and then a random item upgrade in post-ML for some reason

fierce hearth
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If she gets better lore maybe brimmy being post-plant would be nice. Also if you did that maybe she could gatekeep scoria instead of golem, which would make more sense imo

urban cloak
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you could argue the enemy count is crazy too cause the calamity regular enemy economy sucks balls

earnest jewel
urban cloak
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something like the plague having like 5-6 unique enemies is wild

hollow harness
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are they really that unique though

wide raven
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Honestly wulfrum needs some new stuff

dusk bronze
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nah

blazing field
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eh i think wulfrum is fine

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if anything i just think the enemies themselve,s

amber egret
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wulfrums pretty good

blazing field
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could be reworked

earnest jewel
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Wulfrum biome.

blazing field
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the actual items and blocks and such are pretty good

hollow harness
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enemies could be better yea

vivid hemlock
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yeah its just the wulfrum enemies theyre kinda

amber egret
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i would personally like hardmode wulfrum but the issue is What The Fuck Do You Make It Do

urban cloak
wide raven
earnest jewel
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Fables did what!?

hollow harness
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Wulfrum structure*

blazing field
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fables has a wulfrum structure but its not really a biome

urban cloak
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they're all basically just reskinned jungle enemies with the exception of viruling

blazing field
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its just a bunker you go in to fight a bunch of wulfrums and get some loot

urban cloak
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i still do not know what the fuck viruling is

proud plover
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I think a plaguebringer goliath with transformer like phase transitions would be cool.
Animated by code

wide raven
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Not a biome but a structure

dusk bronze
blazing field
hollow harness
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yea and its like the intended way to get the cores as well

fierce hearth
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Wulfrum enemies got love a few years ago and are better than most calamity mobs, so I think they ought to be pretty low priority when we still have Scorn Eaters

urban cloak
wide raven
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Fair

blazing field
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fables wulfrums <3

hollow harness
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because well you actually need to interact with the structure prior to wulfrum nexus spawning rarely

amber egret
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man fuck scorn eaters....

urban cloak
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i need to rework the wulfrum enemies ive already talked about it in dev

amber egret
urban cloak
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they all kinda suck rn

hollow harness
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fables wulfrum is so good it works so well and has so much cool stuff

wide raven
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I find it funny that wulfrum were literally created to troll Yharim

amber egret
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i saw the spirit + fables boss fight and its so fucking peak

vivid hemlock
hollow harness
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the enemies are genuinely amazing because they all collaborate into killing you

blazing field
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itll be interesting seeing what basecal does with their designs

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i remember i think triangle had somd ideas

proud plover
amber egret
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with Wulfum?

blazing field
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plus i really like how silly they are

lyric trellis
blazing field
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big hand, magnet

urban cloak
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wulfrum hovercraft and wulfrum drone when they get stuck in tiles and stop functioning entirely

blazing field
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so whimsy

hollow harness
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also they can kill eachother (granadier robot)

wide raven
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Also they make a really good early pre hardmode summoner set

urban cloak
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wulfrum rover just gets stuck on half tiles too its really fucking sad

vivid hemlock
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wulfrum is an actual threat compared to the slimes that spawn constantly and they actually link up and shit its amazing

dusk bronze
blazing field
lyric trellis
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One hovers the other drones

blazing field
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the magnetizer

wide raven
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Also wulfrum drops an item that later becomes one of the best defensive items in the game

hollow harness
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despite the sprite difference its like the only thing is that one shoots big laser when it gets core enhanced

urban cloak
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yea thats basically it

blazing field
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sprite difference that also contributes to their lack of identity too

hollow harness
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the other idk gets stuck in tiles

blazing field
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the wulfrums in general have no identity at lal beyond that

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theyre different shapes

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rover is flat and wide

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gyrator is a ball

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hovercraft is flat nad flies

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drone is, idk shape ad flies

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their designs are just Different Shape

lyric trellis
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idk shape 🔥

hollow harness
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rover and gyrator are the only ones I remember well because uhh idk they're the ground ones

urban cloak
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gyrator is genuinely the only good one rn cause it's ai doesn't break easily and that bar is 🥀

hollow harness
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rover more because funny!! roverdrive reference and the accessory

lyric trellis
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Skyfin bomber ai

dull heart
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hi

main estuary
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tbh hovercraft and drone are similar but the drone attacks more often

dusk bronze
lyric trellis
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John wulfrum

fierce hearth
dusk bronze
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yeah i love how the rover runs into walls like a roomba

fierce hearth
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I don't want to lose some of the clumsiness of wulfrum enemies

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It's charming

main estuary
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when does rover get trojan squirrels ai

fierce hearth
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But the fact that they break almost every single time you encounter one is Bad

hollow harness
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dude I've seen them spawn on living trees and they all get stuck and never come back to fight

barren nacelle
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They’re so bad in multiplayer dude

rare tinsel
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theyre so funny

urban cloak
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justice

rare tinsel
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OUGH

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everybody run we’re so fucked

dusk bronze
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BEAT

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aw

rancid pagoda
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only half tiles? so if it's unhammered they still get stuck on it?

urban cloak
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oh no they can travel up single blocks now too

rancid pagoda
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oh so that was just inconsistency fix

vivid hemlock
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fryzahh you will save the enemy economy...

pearl sentinel
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fryzahh you will add the feastiary to calamity

urban cloak
grim pecan
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no justice

vivid hemlock
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demonic

dusk bronze
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flay sunny

halcyon seal
# urban cloak justice

New PR replace all wulfrum enemies with wulfrum hovercrafts and let them move through walls again

stone zephyr
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keep wulfrum rovers incapacitated!

urban cloak
stone zephyr
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just kidding. let them roam

grim pecan
dull heart
hasty tangle
lethal kraken
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Wulfrum Hogmongus new enemy (this message will be a candidate for the worst calamity discord message of 2026 award )

lethal kraken
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I’ve gotten more and more ideas for the idea of a fables like mod where its calamity based on really old versions and planned content for old versions like the void biome or whatever but also some new stuff like exo mech versions of bosses that aren’t the mech bosses which would like also fit because the final boss would be Andromeda

lapis oak
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amogus?

vivid hemlock
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your end is nearing

late eagle
# lapis oak

Kills you blows u up send u to the shadow realm

terse dew
tropic jolt
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thank you... SSO

rare monolith
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what am i looking at

hot knot
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insanity

tropic jolt
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the beast

hasty tangle
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there are things in this world that youre not meant to sea

hushed mountain
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sally wouldnt sell any seashells from that seashore

hard copper
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The timeless seashore?

tribal isle
tropic jolt
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because um...

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you were overhauling sunken sea

tribal isle
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oh, yeah

tropic jolt
dusty tinsel
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The SSO will happen sometime but for now we have the horrible hog approaching

arctic cliff
tropic jolt
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roy

thorn pier
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when are we getting purple amidias

dense sundial
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but of course

carmine python
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when i are we getting netherite in the calamity mod

tribal isle
tropic jolt
olive kernel
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(infinite wealth)

arctic cliff
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dragon?

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hmmm

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mmmmmm

dull heart
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spoiler: i made peak today

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tofu can confirm

pulsar cobalt
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@wise bolt can you confirm?

wise bolt
dull heart
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See

lapis oak
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spill it rogue dev

wise bolt
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busy drawing yaoi ask some1 else

dusk bronze
dull heart
vagrant wind
amber egret
tropic jolt
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load bearing ozz

arctic cliff
vagrant wind
dusty tinsel
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Coconut from tf2

vagrant wind
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-# wires

dull heart
amber egret
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hhmmm...

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did it relate to 17776 day

dull heart
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No

vocal kelp
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If tofus approves then why isn't your first guess something astral related. I feel that'd be my first guess

cinder mural
dull heart
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It's not astral

vagrant wind
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is it 🪱

amber egret
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despite tofu being a fan of astrum vermis, they are not defined solely by that

dusty tinsel
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vermis

vagrant wind
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"fan" is not an adequate description

dull heart
dusty tinsel
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so you are a worm fan? name every worm

dull heart
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okay I name them all Jean

amber egret
# dusty tinsel vermis

i had a

Discussion

with some people abt astrum vermis and i have devised to minimize problems to call them "space worm" instead of "space god"

dusty tinsel
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who is vermis

amber egret
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Astrum Deus

dusty tinsel
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why is he vermis

dull heart
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Sorry space god go brr

amber egret
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they are not Auric enough

vagrant wind
amber egret
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its burrower

dusty tinsel
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what does vermis even mean

amber egret
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vermin, aka worm, rat, rodent

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astrum (space) vermis (worm)

dusty tinsel
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space vermin

vagrant wind
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is it not just latin for worm

amber egret
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basically yaeh

dusty tinsel
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i am going to turn you into a worm

vagrant wind
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🪱

flat folio
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How are you feeling about this prediction, out of curiosity?
Yharim and Boss Rush rebalance circa 2025 still maybe on the table?

vagrant wind
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-# 😢

lyric trellis
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This would’ve happened if Merkalto wasn’t evil

cinder mural
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(I have no words)

dull heart
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If merkalto was still a dev we'd have yharim...

flat folio
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I'm more interested in Boss Rush personally

frail owl
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meowkalto

high scaffold
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New calamity update someday

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Likely spring

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Which would mean I was eight with the calamity spring update

frail owl
flat folio
terse dew
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In my humble opinion boss rush should be deleted

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It's 2 am and now I will go back to generating shapefiles for Wisconsin election results

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#ManitowocCountyClerkNeedsToBeNuked

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Bro still uses PAPER to tally results

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😡

flat folio
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5/2!

hard hearth
terse dew
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Lol

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Just congressional district 5 went red

terse dew
hard hearth
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#no #youarerong #killmerkalto

terse dew
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third time..?

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😕

hard hearth
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yep.

terse dew
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damn

hard hearth
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thats what ur comment deserves.

terse dew
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I propose Ein as calamity developer who can fix the boss rush

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😁

hard hearth
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thatd be useless because i dont see what needs fixing

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😊

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as far as im aware its just an extra non-serious bit of content so that people can have fun with the dev weapons

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and it accomplishes that

terse dew
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It's a geojson file but worse

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Hope that's helpful

amber egret
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shat is a gonsjon

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geojsnon

terse dew
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Files for GIS

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It's cartography

amber egret
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mitchery

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got it

tawdry kettle
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Wait can someone explain something to me?

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Version 2.1.0, does that include all 700+ changes that haven't been released yet?

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And is that not released yet?

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I thought those nearly 1000 changes were Brainstorm

polar tide
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2.1 is brainstorm. it was released on february 6 and contained 3000+ changes

polar tide
tawdry kettle
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Did YuH just forget to update the changelog?

polar tide
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yes

barren nacelle
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No Sand Dollar rework

polar tide
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you should not be looking at the changelogs channel for information on current versions of calamity

tawdry kettle
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And it was a great way to see individual changes.

desert garnet
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Wiki

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Search for calamity versions

polar tide
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the changelogs are reliable. the changelogs channel isnt

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Calamity Mod Wiki

The 2.1.2 update made further refinements to the Brain of Cthulhu fight in Revengeance Mode, made several balance changes to items, and fixed a multitude of bugs.

desert garnet
polar tide
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we also have a newsletter on the calamity website

tawdry kettle
# polar tide https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/2.1.2

Alright thank you. In any case, I think something should be done about the changelog channel. Maybe add a message at the end of it being like: "Hey, this is not being written in anymore, you can keep up on the update information here: link to wiki place"

polar tide
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much better source of information on what we're doing currently

polar tide
tawdry kettle
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Exactly

desert garnet
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You can make a ticket to modmail

tawdry kettle
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I mean, I'm talking to a dev rn XD

polar tide
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i'll bring it up internally i've just been forgetting to

tawdry kettle
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Alright :) Thank you for the conversation

barren nacelle
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Alex

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Where’s my sand dollar rework

proud plover
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is it really worth it?

fierce hearth
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pepsimax iv for the sorrowful sow

polar tide
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im happy to see another person who thinks its an iv this picture is fascinating because i think the intent was probably that the pepsi max is being pumped out of the pig but i and a nonsignficant amount of other people see it as an iv drip

fierce hearth
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It's definitely extractive as depicted but the idea of it being an IV is so much more funny to me that I will it into being

polar tide
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exactly

fierce hearth
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I need 30 cc crystal pepsi asap

polar tide
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like this is how i feel after beinf at school for 3 hours

fierce hearth
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Pouring espresso into my iv bag as I stare directly into the nurse's eyes

vagrant wind
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sjfwmaodufnjn4m

fierce hearth
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Now I'm thinking about "the patient needs mouse bites to live"

plush carbon
# polar tide

Someone got in trouble for posting this in another server I'm in

polar tide
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lol???

fierce hearth
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HUH?

orchid finch
grave rock
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hog

polar tide
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i saw you typing tofu

deft lily
polar tide
polar tide
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LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

wise bolt
pearl sentinel
polar tide
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tofu can i parasitize you for no reason

wise bolt
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sure but i have some more to say so hold on

polar tide
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ok:3

cunning sequoia
drifting furnace
wise bolt
polar tide
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nom

polar tide
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nomnomnom!!!!!!!

wise bolt
twin juniper
pearl sentinel
wise bolt
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To liken the plagued deity to that of a verminous maggot is no less than blasphemy of the highest degree.

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You wish not to refer to it as a god, so be it, but you will do so with reverence, rather than dragging it through the muck with something so utterly tasteless and tactless.

Astrum Deus is fine a title as is, but if you insist on a differing name, you'd do well to refer to it as Astrum Tabidum, or Sidus Tabidum, after its sidereal form and the rot that befalls it.

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Else, do not refer to it at all.

Do not let me catch you enacting such folly again.

pearl sentinel
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my bad

wise bolt
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im being melodramatic

pearl sentinel
grave rock
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feelin bad

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im gonna checkout red nation

true oriole
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Sorry John CDMusic, the music's a banger but the event is fundamentally ass DoGCri

high scaffold
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Future content doc needs an update

vivid hemlock
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about what

lyric trellis
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The future

vivid hemlock
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😨

high scaffold
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The hogs

lapis oak
vivid hemlock
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i already wrote down about your final hours

high scaffold
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The hogs are going wild

vivid hemlock
high scaffold
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Terrible

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Or are they horrible

solemn crest
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Can’t wait for the hogs to say “it’s hogging time” and they hog everywhere

twin juniper
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You feel a horrible presence watching you…

solemn crest
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Canon: horrible hog CAN kill Yharim, it just chooses not to just so that the world is more horrible

earnest jewel
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deft lily
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calamity mod

solemn crest
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calamity mod

tropic jolt
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crabumod

solemn crest
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I found a draedon hate image that feels like it was conceived in this discord

polar tide
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this picture sucks ass

solemn crest
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I think that person does not like exo mechs

polar tide
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i am familiar with this person they have a weird hatred for draedon specifically that i do not understand

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real classy

solemn crest
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Eww politics

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Ngl I read like 4 lines

polar tide
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"eww politics" is what you took from that?

tropic jolt
hasty tangle
#

exos are pretty bad tbf

tropic jolt
#

bendraedon exoyahu

#

apparently some people really do not like infernum exo mechs

hasty tangle
#

its a shame really

solemn crest
#

I don’t really have a problem with it tbh

hasty tangle
#

inf exos are really cool

solemn crest
#

I think it’s fun enough

hasty tangle
#

but thats infernum for you

#

every single boss is absolutely hated by at least some people

#

and loved by others

solemn crest
#

This is true

#

I am a certified profaned guardians hater

urban cloak
# solemn crest

wonder how many people are actually aware he was voiced by gianni matragrano once

#

its been nearly five years since reign of lords first released

solemn crest
#

There’s no way reign of lords is that old

hushed mountain
#

its been a minute

urban cloak
#

it came out like a month before the draedon update yea

#

by october 14th this year it'll officially be 5

solemn crest
#

Oh my god

#

-# trial of the insane is two years old???

tropic jolt
#

🥹

hushed mountain
tropic jolt
#

t1e is a year old already this cant be real

solemn crest
#

t1e?

hasty tangle
#

tier 1 encore

hushed mountain
#

the extra thingy

#

the encore mix yeah

solemn crest
#

I have not heard of it

#

Wait why tf am I not subscribed hold on

hushed mountain
#

fake fan??!!?

solemn crest
#

There we go

tropic jolt
#

this is funny

solemn crest
#

“0 times he’s washed his butt”

urban cloak
tropic jolt
halcyon seal
urban cloak
#

the mod hasn't really gotten any huge major updates like the draedon update before brainstorm so its understandable why so much time has passed so quickly

hollow harness
solemn crest
#

Gao is known well?

#

I thought it was just some random guy hating Draedon

halcyon seal
urban cloak
#

the name sounds familiar

hollow harness
#

Gao is known they're in various servers

urban cloak
#

ive definitely seen them before but i cant remember much

tropic jolt
grave geyser
#

does bh really not count

solemn crest
halcyon seal
white aurora
urban cloak
#

i do not like bountiful harvest it kinda fucked up parts of the mod that were pretty enjoyable for me

lyric trellis
#

From the Ashes 🙂‍↕️

urban cloak
#

that and the pr distster that is the pumpkin

hollow harness
#

They're a bit active everywhere really

grave geyser
urban cloak
#

the weapon reworks were nice thats about the only praise i can give it

hasty tangle
#

was bh really that bad, if you ignore the boss reworks

lyric trellis
#

Xyk scal changes my savior

hollow harness
#

bountiful harvest more like bountiful industry plant 🙂‍↕️

grave geyser
solemn crest
#

BH happened like shortly after I got into cal, what exactly did people hate about it?

tropic jolt
#

😭

urban cloak
#

i distinctly remember getting genuinely hyped when fab was posting changelogs and talking about unique changes to bosses in master mode and allat

solemn crest
#

Like I did one cal playthrough before it came out I think

hasty tangle
tropic jolt
urban cloak
#

was quickly corrected

hasty tangle
#

bosses were made miserable in master rev/death

#

HM and PBG were also ruined

pseudo vector
#

i did not intend on the gap between t1e and t2e being this big but its honestly entirely on me

lyric trellis
#

Majority of boss changes, many contact damage changes, and the whole master-rev shit ass difficulty system

tropic jolt
#

t2e will be so peak it will be worth it

hollow harness
lyric trellis
#

Master system so bad I had to write up a whole doc with over a dozen points to explain “hey this sucks” and it somehow worked

urban cloak
hollow harness
#

1/3 is actual boss changes, another 1/3 is just rebalances and the rest is whateverr the update added

urban cloak
#

there were parts of it that were good and i liked, but the parts that i dont like feel louder

solemn crest
#

So here’s another question I’ve got, why do people hate the pumpkin? waddle

white aurora
urban cloak
#

was the entire trailer and branding for the update and then it fell off after a week

tropic jolt
#

why do they exist who is that

hollow harness
#

Industry plant

urban cloak
#

idek if anyone uses harvest staff nowadays

hasty tangle
pseudo vector
#

pumpkin was sorta shoehorned in as the mascot for the update

tropic jolt
lyric trellis
#

Harvest staff is limited by everything else just being broken (and you can only have 1 so it’s cooked iirc)

hollow harness
#

harvest staff is kinda good last time I checked but it falls off after you get an OOA sentry (ballista/aura)

#

the only reedeming quality is the sfx they have which is silly

lyric trellis
#

Lend me a 1 damage buff cal devs, this is RBP and Polyp Launcher we’re up against

solemn crest
#

Why not tie it to pumpkin moon? Seems fitting

hollow harness
#

because pumpkin moon is Serious Stuff

mortal tide
#

new leaked feature: sacrifice the pumpkin creature in hardmode to spawn the pumpkin moon

hollow harness
#

or halloween season related stuff

mystic eagle
dull heart
#

RBP needs to stop doing what it does

solemn crest
#

RBP cannot be found anymore. Needs auric bars to be crafted. Everything else remains unchanged

vivid hemlock
# mystic eagle

this is the dog that ate up all of the other good changes in bh as a fat bird told me

dull heart
#

Finally balanced

solemn crest
#

(You cannot shimmer it to get the auric back)

#

waddle Daniel
ShroombleRUN The cooler Daniel

grave geyser
#

shroomble is also an industry plant dont let them fool you

tropic jolt
#

industry plant 2

#

we need industry hogs

solemn crest
#

Shroomble is awesome look at that little guy

hollow harness
#

yea these are all industry plants

#

like literally and figuratively

solemn crest
#

I could never hate shroomble

#

They make a funny noise

vivid hemlock
#

you need actual enemies in your life to be fulfilled

urban cloak
#

if you're referring to the jump sound then i hope you know its the same one harvest staff uses

grave geyser
#

should've kept shroomble dying every frame

solemn crest
#

I have never used harvest staff ngl. I don’t play summoner

mortal tide
#

ong i had no clue this guy was a summon

grave geyser
#

he used to not!

urban cloak
#

🥀

#

yeah its a sentry, was previously a mage weapon before it got reworked

hollow harness
#

the weapon used to be a mage weapon that still went unnoticeable tbh

mortal tide
#

WHAT

hollow harness
#

like I don't even remember this weapon being decent at all it was like unnoticeable really

solemn crest
#

Wait so BH’s main selling point was a pre-boss weapon rework?

mortal tide
#

why in the world was it a mage weapon, it's literally a creature what

hollow harness
#

Pretty much

urban cloak
#

that came with the rework

solemn crest
#

Summons used to be magic damage back in like early terraria too

urban cloak
#

pre-rework it was just a staff that shot small pumpkin projectiles

solemn crest
#

mid-terraria?

#

After early

mortal tide
urban cloak
#

everything is 100000 years old

mortal tide
#

it's true i was there

solemn crest
hollow harness
#

yea no it was just a random projectile staff which just exploded on hit

lyric trellis
#

Harvest staff was kinda cracked when it was a mage weapon which is funny

vivid hemlock
#

calamity is characterized by senile weapons

solemn crest
#

Now I wonder what cal weapon has gone the longest without a rework

#

What’s the least-recently updated weapon…

lyric trellis
#

Slag Magnum hasn’t gotten a real change since mid 2017

mortal tide
#

rip my goat terra edge 🥀

lyric trellis
pulsar cobalt
solemn crest
#

Exactly, he’s a fun guy

hasty tangle
vocal kelp
#

#tragic

mortal tide
#

slopnum

#

#whatdatmean

solemn crest
#

The real slop is the friends we made along the way

mortal tide
#

it's true

twin juniper
solemn crest
#

No…

dull heart
#

Slag Magnum is a name that makes me sad

#

Why is it not just the Slagnum

solemn crest
#

Is there an official release date for Hog Wild or is the newsletter more of a “here’s what’s going on rn” kinda thing?

#

Or did I just miss it?

mystic eagle
#

Hog Wilds or Outer Hogs?

solemn crest
#

?

#

I’m behind

distant raft
#

i was more thinking Hog Hunter Wilds

solemn crest
#

Hogframe when?

solemn crest
dull heart
#

Too much else to do

#

Hog Rider when

solar hare
#

always if youre a coqqer

#

retweet this if youre a true coqqer

grave rock
#

Hog...

hollow harness
#

CoQ HQ.......

urban cloak
#

hm

#

a hog rider attack on horrible hog WOULD be kinda funny...

wise bolt
urban cloak
#

ah

#

i think ive seen like one mutrim piece from them

#

caldevi is a ship ive never seen before tho

wise bolt
#

not fond of caldevi tbh,

azure oak
#

real

solemn crest
#

I have no idea what those words mean

wise bolt
#

mutant x yharim & calamitas x deviantt

solemn crest
#

Interesting

grave rock
wise bolt
#

idk. i would prefer my aroace characters 2 stay aroace unless the artist is specifically trying to explore that spectrum aspect of aromanticism through connections with others

#

but that is just my preference

vivid hemlock
#

truthful

rotund venture
#

I had no idea people are shipping Cal

#

thought it was well known that she's aroace

solemn crest
#

People ship anything

wise bolt
#

it is nice when the ships have substance and background. sure, xyz lesbian or gay or straight couple is cute or something but i cannot find it in me to feel anything in particular for them when they're just conveyed like slice of life characters

#

nice, but not the most interesting

rotund venture
#

I'm just confused as to how ppl can ship a character that's aroace

vivid hemlock
grave rock
#

They should be stabbinh eachother

rotund venture
#

am I missing something? am I not woke enough to understand?

wise bolt
#

no i just dont think they care

#

unfortunately

grave rock
#

Fwiw i dont remember seeibg any art of them being romantically íntimate
My good faith take would b that its a queerplatonic relationship but that just might be cope

wise bolt
#

if memory serves gao has mentioned their cala is lesbian but idk if we're still talking about them

grave rock
#

Im mainly talking about tje one caldevi artist

#

Yeag
Is it gao

wise bolt
#

that is gao yea

grave rock
#

Idk their name sry

dull heart
grave rock
#

Idek if theres another caldevi artist

#

Can we get hog yuri

rotund venture
#

henlo doze

solemn crest
wise bolt
#

why is it always yuri

grave rock
halcyon forge
#

is the slime superboss still ment to be in my infurnem world i cant find him on the wiki?

wise bolt
#

i may just be less inclined towards yuri in general tbh but also every time something like this comes up its always yuri

grave rock
#

And

halcyon forge
wise bolt
urban cloak
dull heart
#

tbh think it's because the average straight cis man is more interested in seeing two women kiss than two men kiss

wise bolt
mellow spade
#

this world needs more yaoi

grave rock
urban cloak
#

be the change you want to see in the world

grave rock
#

But sigh

#

Fine

#

Hog hetslop

wise bolt
#

nothing against yuri but it does feel like it is getting shoved in my face a lot

#

and there is, usually never substance to it

twin juniper
#

It’s kinda random at a time

wise bolt
#

its just girls kissing ,

rotund venture
dull heart
#

yuri fans vs yaoi enjoyers

grave rock
#

Stop shoving these LESBIANS in my face!!!

mellow spade
#

a true yaoi fan never speaks ill of yuri
a true yuri fan never speaks ill of yaoi

wise bolt
#

maybe i'm strange for wanting something with more thought put into it SkyThink

solemn crest
#

Yuri, yaoi, whatever, I just like my gf

wise bolt
#

both can be good. but without anything to grasp onto outside of same sex relationship it is just completely uninteresting to me

mellow spade
#

i kinda get that

twin juniper
#

I liked the old lesbian couple in caroline

dull heart
#

fair

grave rock
wise bolt
#

it has existed forever and i draw do draw it on the occasion

grave rock
#

I literally just said hog yuri lol and u went "why is it always yuri" like ??? cuz im a lesbian and i like making things into lesbians for fun???

wise bolt
#

i just it find most shipping content dull

grave geyser
dull heart
#

yuri is peak because it's in Cosmic Princess Kaguya that's all I have to say

mellow spade
#

i just like seeing any depictions of same-sex relationships
even if it's two girls and not two guys it's like "yay! gay people!"

dull heart
#

if it's in Cosmic Princess Kaguya it's gotta be peak that's the rules

wise bolt
tropic jolt
#

draeplush is approaching ...

grave geyser
#

chat what would you say are the best/worst designed accessories that cal adds

designed as in function not visuals

tropic jolt
dull heart
#

yharims gift for both

grave geyser
#

I dont think it falls under either tbh

dull heart
#

shh

grave geyser
#

I think you can do worse than a boring stat stick

grave rock
rotund venture
#

it will no longer be a boring stat stick in the hog wilderness

dull heart
#

The worst is camper

grave geyser
#

camper is definitely down there

grave rock
#

I like camper in concept

#

I havenr ever seen it

#

Be used

dull heart
#

The very core idea is fine

#

But everything about it sucks

grave rock
#

Uhhh i dont like the bloody worm scarf

grave geyser
#

bwsc would be like incredibly normal if it wasnt an expert item

grave rock
#

Nothing wrong w it, im just not super fond of a stat stick like that yk

#

I use it all the time

dull heart
#

bws is... Average

grave rock
#

I kinda wish it had atleast a minor gimmick like how rotten brain does

dull heart
#

Actually

lyric trellis
#

asa 💔

cinder mural
grave geyser
#

hote is another one

big glob of other items that just results in visual clutter

dull heart
#

Spectral Veil kinda sucks

#

ASA oh

lyric trellis
#

Rotten brain pre-2.1 was down there

wise bolt
dull heart
#

Yeah it's ASA

grave rock
#

Brainstorm gave it a big glowup tho

grave geyser
#

asa has like
an idea if nothing else I feel

#

its a bad idea but

grave rock
#

Whats asa

grave geyser
#

auric soul artifact

grave rock
#

Ahh

#

That

#

Is it the one that synergizes with a specific minion

dull heart
#

Yes, and in a bad way

wise bolt
#

hell torture

mellow spade
#

not only does it only affect one minion, the minion in question sucks

lyric trellis
grave rock
#

Would an accessory that gives a minor refund on any of ur multiple slot minions be good and or balanced

urban cloak
#

what did asa do before that change again?

dull heart
#

The issue is it's basically a stat buff

#

To one minion

mellow spade
#

wait did asa get reworked?

#

oh, no it didn't

lyric trellis
#

asa used to just summon 2 nuggets

dull heart
#

5 -> 4 slot cost

urban cloak
#

ty

mellow spade
#

All the soul artifacts kind of... suck ngl

#

PSA is kind of good I guess

dull heart
#

Meaning it's entirely dependent on the minion to be good

grave geyser
mellow spade
#

ESA is just pure dogshit

grave rock
mellow spade
#

DSA is only good for full glass cannon

dull heart
grave geyser
#

esa is also bad yeah

lyric trellis
#

ESA 😭

mellow spade
#

I forget what the fifth one is

dull heart
#

ESA just chose terrible stats to give

grave geyser
#

oh actually I have one

#

all the other ones at least have ideas that are not that horendus

dull heart
#

ESA would be ok if it picked good stats

grave rock
#

I like any accessories/armors tjat buff ur hook

mellow spade
#

bloom stone, then

grave geyser
grave rock
#

Brainstorm bloom stone is so peak

#

I love it

dull heart
#

Eh

#

I think DMS issue is actually really easy to fix

#

Make it still always consume all stealth

lyric trellis
#

What makes dms unique compared to the downgrades again, or are you just saying the entire line

dull heart
#

You can stealth at 50%, but it's weaker

grave geyser
grave rock
#

I dont like tje quivers

lyric trellis
#

Stealth calculations will go to hell

grave geyser
#

what quivers are you refering to

mellow spade
#

Rogue doesn't need accessory nerfs
There's a few weapons that are way overtuned but the accessories are fine

lyric trellis
#

Equiver with less crit than deadshot lmao

grave rock
#

Elemental gauntlet Is also very boring 😔
Though ig its fine for there to be stat sticks

grave geyser
mellow spade
#

Stealth rogue as a whole feels a bit worse to play after brainstorm

rotund venture
#

OH I have a question about stealth I've been meaning to ask and forgot

lyric trellis
#

Venlocket my goat

dull heart
#

Their issue is usually numbers more than concept

rotund venture
#

are the mechanics in molten amputator and Nblack a sort of test for the future Focus thing?

grave geyser
#

glove of recklessness is a good example of the numbers just inherently having stupid design

dull heart
#

Yeah, but I think it has to be more than a numbers issue alone to be in the running for worst

dull heart
#

Like feather crown sucks but that's only bc it can't hit / does 0 dmg

mellow spade
#

i feel like the candidate for "worst" accessory can be found in some random boss expert mode drop

wise bolt
mellow spade
#

those are usually pretty dogshit

grave rock
#

Tbf idk if its even a good idea to have every accessory have some special gimmick attached to it mayb its ok for stuff like elemental gauntlet to be like that

amber egret
amber egret
wise bolt
#

but seriously astrum vermis is. bluntly, not a great name for such a grand beast

dull heart
#

Not all accessories need gimmick yeah

rotund venture
dull heart
#

Ok hear me out for worst accessory design

#

Asgardian Aegis

grave geyser
#

hmmmmm

grave rock
dull heart
#

Back when it had Elysian Guard

amber egret
#

i mean it Is as of current a space scourge. once we purify it itsnprob Good

lyric trellis
#

Elysian guard lmao

grave geyser
#

elysian guard is just kinda there

mellow spade
#

Here's one. Scuttler's Jewel.

grave rock
mellow spade
#

Might legit be the worst accessory in the mod

dull heart
#

Jewel is fine

grave geyser
#

I dont think it really hurt the items design outside of making it messy

rotund venture
wise bolt
grave geyser
#

jewel is one of rogues best designed accessories

dull heart
grave geyser
#

the bar is low but still

amber egret
dull heart
#

jewel is like fine

#

and very strong

grave rock
#

Its like the mini boss u fight between aureus and deus and its weaker than aureus

mellow spade
#

It does nothing
Especially for how weak stealth rogue is pre-boss

wise bolt
dull heart
#

no

grave geyser
#

jewel is a simple accessory done well

dull heart
#

It is genuinely very good

wise bolt
#

banned

amber egret
#

space worm

wise bolt
#

yeah, i know

grave geyser
#

also jewel is one of stealths best prehardmode accessories

mellow spade
#

that can't be right

amber egret
#

my fault gang!!

grave geyser
#

I have a mountain of tests to prove this very thing

mellow spade
#

i've gotten nothing out of it before

grave rock
#

Jewel Is kinda nice for slime and scourge

amber egret
#

what does tabidum mean might i chance

dull heart
#

if you used crystalline maybe it would suck

mellow spade
#

I guess so, then

lyric trellis
#

Jewel from 2-3 years where it was useless lmao

dull heart
#

but most of the items are fine

grave rock
#

Which are the bosses id expect it to have a use on

wise bolt
#

vermis is the word for worm, it also shares the definition with maggot, just as well iirc the word vermin stems from vermis so its like

#

ough. alrigh

grave rock
#

Astrum Vermis would be the name for boss minions

grave geyser
dull heart
#

Thought: what if jewel had no spawn cooldown but had static iframes equal to the cooldown duration instead

wise bolt
grave rock
#

Astrum Deus Is a peak name imo

dull heart
#

So jewel isn't screwed by crystalline type things

dusk bronze
grave rock
#

Aureus less so, idk

amber egret
#

i will call it tabidum instead

#

Smiley

grave geyser
grave rock
#

Astrum Smiley...

grave geyser
wise bolt
#

sidus is the word for constellation im p sure and tabidum is decay, so it would have been called the decaying constellation

amber egret
#

that is actually a fire mame

grave geyser
wise bolt
#

deus still suits him the most though i feel, and in lore too

amber egret
#

so astrum tabidum would be the rotting/decaying star

grave rock
#

Top 5 hogs

amber egret
#

its not auric enough apparently so he cant be called god

wise bolt
#

thats silly

grave rock
#

Can someone send the image of tje hog w the soda iv bag

dull heart
#

imo

#

Most rogue accessories are screwed bc of random cooldowns and limits

amber egret
solemn crest
dull heart
#

They seem to have a niche then the niche doesn't exist

#

bc of random limits to make them less ncihe

amber egret
#

he is a powerful beast of similar strength to a god in the eyes of many

#

even if ge is not

dull heart
#

Like spawn timers or nanoblade dmg dropping if more than 5 exist

grave rock
#

Can we get bad piggies mount

wise bolt
#

i have some written stuff in regards to deus and the gods actually but i....dk if its canon or public even

solemn crest
#

Why are there two deuses? Deusi?

lean relic
solemn crest
#

Or he just splits?

wise bolt
amber egret
wise bolt
#

i have lore for that too .

amber egret
#

or the infection and sidum are not the same creature

grave rock
#

Why do they split

grave geyser
grave rock
#

Was there lore for back when there were like 12 small deuses

wise bolt
#

currently its just gameplay but when we do get to reworking astral i have some thoughts about deus splitting

grave rock
#

N the fight sucked more

wise bolt
#

-# i do like his split mechanic. its cute monklove

solemn crest
#

Astral infection update is the thing I cannot wait for

wise bolt
#

i want to keep it if possible, but make it fun to actually play hopefully

polar tide
#

ujnhyggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggguhi8g88ub

wise bolt
#

alec

#

(killsyou

solemn crest
#

Hi carny

dusk bronze
#

hi carny

polar tide
#

f

wise bolt
#

for. real.

dusk bronze
#

i agree

grave geyser
wise bolt
polar tide
#

i need to work on the thing

cobalt wharf
#

discovers a thing hoping it can save lives

cinder mural
#

Darn

#

There

wise bolt
#

wip clip that the masses (1 person) may enjoy

urban cloak
#

bubby

dusk bronze
#

vroom

polar tide
wise bolt
#

the passes the way ill be passing away

cinder mural
polar tide
#

the grasses 🌱

high scaffold
#

Calamity update soon

grim pecan
#

update's delayed to 2028

solemn crest
pearl sentinel
fierce hearth
#

Grabe deus like a ferret and gesticulates with it in my hand, causing it to flop around

deft lily
tropic jolt
vivid hemlock
#

splendid

#

we shall soon reach enlightenment

pearl sentinel
#

I rly like deus splitting its whimsical