calamity-update-talk

[distant raft]

either way geldon's intended to be a superboss

[cinder mural]

306k hp to 400k hp
second phase hp goes from 336k to 456k hp
reactive damage reduction remains untouched
still kills you for using rod
and also

you can't skip first phase even if you defeated it before

[dusk bronze]

:walterheisenbergwhite:

[frail owl]

[earnest jewel]

Xeroc should give you an upgrade to the Rod of Harmony that lets you teleport anywhere on the map.

[frail owl]

how about a ticket to ozzatron's location for an airfryer?

[cinder mural]

not the air fryer man 😭

[brittle escarp]

Idk, I think it makes a lot of thematic and balance sense for the super overpowered teleport anywhere item to be locked behind a super boss as a cool reward

[frail owl]

just install heros mod smh

[earnest jewel]

Maybe Xeroc should give an item that unlocks the ability to use cheat- wait a minute.

[hazy pine]

Run! It's Xeroc!

[earnest jewel]

Actually no, it may look like Xeroc, but due to international copyright laws, it isn't.

[hazy pine]

Still, we should run like it is Xeroc!

[earnest jewel]

Though it isn't!

[deft lily]

I am actually xeroc

🤯

[earnest jewel]

No, I'M Xeroc!

[thorn pier]

bunch of Xeros

[dense sundial]

nameless doesn't contend with rod of harmony

we just don't do anything about it

[woeful warren]

ok WaterWraithGaming

[dusty tinsel]

I am actually xeroc

[hushed hazel]

ok 743642768282353756

[lean relic]

Is this discord user id damm

[vagrant wind]

no im xeroc

[lean relic]

ok red lego brick

[deft lily]

okay nameless deity, lets get you to bed

🛏️

[dusty tinsel]

Why did you post my user ID that's crazy

[cinder mural]

(Darn, embed fail)

[deft lily]

cuz ur not xeroc

I am

[thorn pier]

bro

[deft lily]

mr beat

give moneuy

💰 💰 💰

slain

anyways i now have 500 trillion ozzacoins

[lyric trellis]

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-the-hedgehog-rings-taking-damage-losing-money-losing-rings-gif-22365447

If you attacked Ozzatron do you think he’d explode into a bunch of Ozzacoins like this

[earnest jewel]

Yes.

[dusty tinsel]

If you attacked him he would explode into so many that it crashes your entire system permanently

[tropic jolt]

ozzatron is not capable of taking damage

[thorn pier]

butcher tool

[thorny fjord]

Has lul equipped

[dusty tinsel]

Immune to that also it instead butchers you

[deft lily]

cyver. whats wrong

why aren't you purple

[tropic jolt]

im not a purple guy anymore

[deft lily]

you always come back

[earnest jewel]

Purple guy? I think I like that name.

[rotund venture]

one by one my fellow patreons are abandoning their colors

[rotund venture]

am I to be left all alone in my toothpaste world?

[deft lily]

come again

wait whar

it appeared and disappeared

[earnest jewel]

"The ragebaiter, the hype moments and their auras, and even the auric tiers. One by one they fall."

[deft lily]

there we go

[rotund venture]

it's a miracle

[deft lily]

i didnt pay for it again i just reconnected by patreon account

2 discord

[rotund venture]

so long as I'm not left all alone like maester Aemon

[deft lily]

maester aemon?

[rotund venture]

no ball knowledge

[deft lily]

nope

[rotund venture]

asoif reference

[deft lily]

uhh

asoif?

im not even kidding idk what that is

[rotund venture]

A Song of Ice and Fire

[deft lily]

yeah never heard of it

until now

[rotund venture]

the book series Game of Thrones is based on

[deft lily]

ive never seen game of thrones

[rotund venture]

dw abt it it's whatever

[deft lily]

yeh

[rotund venture]

show sucks donkey ass

but I am on my 11th time rereading the books

[deft lily]

incoming cal main moderator in 5

[rotund venture]

anyway ravager rework someday

sso never etc etc

[deft lily]

ravager rework will happen the day doze is freed from his prison of chains

[thorn pier]

i will definitely not try to butcher ozzatron then

[dusty tinsel]

Doze sadly can't be released

It's for ravagers protection

[deft lily]

protection from being a good and epic fight, i see

[dusty tinsel]

Ravager being a good and epic fight would be too powerful

[polar tide]

https://tenor.com/view/kitten-wiggle-cat-kitten-wiggle-kitten-crazy-gif-902192699507662021

[hasty tangle]

pinball

[brittle escarp]

I cannot wait for ravager’s update and retier

🙏

[blazing field]

Cathedral ..

[brittle escarp]

I assume we don’t know, but is there any information as to when this rework and retier is happening

And bloodstone rework

[hasty tangle]

probably with the crags rework, i assume

[tropic jolt]

when hogs fly

[brittle escarp]

👀

I just hope it’s soon

The Ravager concepts are so cool

Also I like his lore

[tropic jolt]

[rotund venture]

I don't think cathedral and rav are related to crags but I could be wrong

[vivid hemlock]

calamity devs forced to code in an entire structure and multiple enemies and a boss overhaul and remake 20 items in less than a month according to my sources

😢

[urban cloak]

eventually™ (no)

just keep an eye on this server and the newsletter on the website to get an idea of what to expect next for the mod

[fierce hearth]

I need to keep petitioning for bloodstone botflies for post-ml hive pack relevance until Cathedral releases

[dense sundial]

oh yeah is there like

[jagged girder]

Oi i forgot, is calamity up to date with terraria 1.4.5 or naur?

[dense sundial]

any degree of estimated time window for this newsletter

[fierce hearth]

Naur

[hasty tangle]

tmod needs to update first

which will take months

[jagged girder]

ah makes sense

[dense sundial]

and then calamity will take a long time after that to fix itself

[rotund venture]

we can only make educated guesses on upcoming content by knowing what's high priority and what isn't and even that isn't very accurate

[lyric trellis]

Next few days, and that was a couple days ago

[rotund venture]

exos rework is very high priority but is still many months away if not more

[jagged girder]

yea i figured it'd be much longer for that to happen but i thought there'd be no harm in asking lol

[hasty tangle]

epic scam fail

[fierce hearth]

Do we know if Ozz has finished whipping the team into a new update production pipeline after the Calamity™ that was SSO

[rotund venture]

yes a while ago

[dense sundial]

i would like to hear this, yes

[fierce hearth]

Cool

I am curious what it is but I don't blame any dev for not explaining how the sausage is made

[rotund venture]

wouldn't acll it whipping since ozz since to be extremely competent and nice

[dense sundial]

easily my biggest concern with post-25 cal has been just. can they get themselves together and steam ahead

[hasty tangle]

i mean, it seems like they have

[rotund venture]

very much so yes

[hasty tangle]

bs was pretty good overall, and that was with fab around for half of it

[urban cloak]

it was less whipping and more everyone being tired of working on the same update for 3 years but yes we have a more productive system

[dense sundial]

no i mean in terms of focusing on one big general area of content

[hasty tangle]

so fab being around for none of it is bound to produce even better results

[rotund venture]

gp how come you aren't a patreon?

[dense sundial]

brainstorm was incredibly Not focused

[hasty tangle]

i was for a while

[fierce hearth]

Ozz has demonstrated extreme competence and I have faith that if a production process has already been figured out, it's either good or will be swiftly adjusted as needed

[urban cloak]

the whole point of brainstorm was being unfocused

[hasty tangle]

maybe i should resub at some point

[dense sundial]

yea

[rotund venture]

future updates will be much more focused than brainstorm and also much smaller (good thing)

[urban cloak]

it was just to get out all the random bullshit that amassed over the sso period and big e's boc rework just happened to be almost finished by the time it was decided to do that

it is by essence bountiful harvest 2 but this one is better

[dense sundial]

obviously one, brainstorm is a product of fab-era sso purgatory, and two, i don't know anything about the team's current internals to be able to say

[fierce hearth]

Brainstorm was literally 3 years of bullshit that was collectively decided to be worth pushing public, and whatever we have next will be smaller, faster and probably more focused

[lyric trellis]

Next update will be a zoo

[fierce hearth]

Ooo

[hasty tangle]

will the zoo have any hogs

and of what quality will they be

[still bluff]

bountiful harvest but without fabsol ruining literally every vanilla boss!

[rotund venture]

incorrect next update will kill the yharim whispers in favor of a scrying stone

[vivid hemlock]

next update will let you achieve nirvana

[urban cloak]

there will be swine of the divine variety

[rotund venture]

source: came to me in a dream

[blazing field]

next update will kill me

[still bluff]

the hogs will horror

[lyric trellis]

Many

[fierce hearth]

Next update will allow you to escape Samsara

[pulsar cobalt]

next update will have Him.

[vivid hemlock]

😊

[blazing field]

like im gonna die in real liofe the second the next update drops

[hasty tangle]

from the power puff girls?

[blazing field]

newsletter tommorow

[lyric trellis]

By him you mean The Bee obviously

[urban cloak]

if cheese dies just know it was The Hog that got her

[still bluff]

cheese is going to die in real life when the hog gets her

[vivid hemlock]

im still dumbfounded the hogs were chosen to be the first post bs update...

[still bluff]

XD

[pulsar cobalt]

no

[urban cloak]

🤝

[lyric trellis]

More than just hogs thankfully but yes

How horrible

[still bluff]

it's going to be a horrible update

[fierce hearth]

Everyone remember that yesterday we did determine that horses are greater than hogs

Or the day before yesterday, whatever

[vivid hemlock]

whats a horse

[pearl sentinel]

kamen rider thebee

my favorite

[vivid hemlock]

idk what that is

[dense sundial]

this time he just ruined crab and rev eye instead

[hasty tangle]

speaking of horses, some of the channel descriptions still have horses in them

[urban cloak]

wait what happened to eye

[still bluff]

oh

lmao

[blazing field]

lore disc

[hasty tangle]

and help

[blazing field]

wasnt eye just fabsol cahnge reversal

[still bluff]

that's really funny honestly

[blazing field]

removal of bloodletting servants ro whatever the fuck

[dense sundial]

actually idk if 2.1 eye is new changes or 2.0.4 holdovers

but either way

[brittle escarp]

Is that when eye lost it’s banger soundtrack and cool fight like 2-3 years ago for no reason

[vivid hemlock]

what

[dense sundial]

what?

what soundtrack

[urban cloak]

❓

[brittle escarp]

Am I tweaking

[dense sundial]

what cool fight

you are tweaking

[brittle escarp]

There was an update where its soundtrack changed

[pearl sentinel]

jesse what the fuck are you talking about

[brittle escarp]

Bruh

[hasty tangle]

did you disable the cal vanilla music mod or smth

[dense sundial]

it hovers really far away and its dashes travel a hilariously long distance

[brittle escarp]

Idk honestly

[dense sundial]

this means countless weapons can barely ever hit it at all

true melee is close to unusable

[blazing field]

i feel like thats how it is in vanilla too if youre doing true melee near the end of the fight u kinda just have to pray

havent seen calamity eoc though so i dunno

[urban cloak]

is that the one attack in phase two where it does like a long horizontal dash back into its expert dashes or does it just do that in general

[lyric trellis]

Not true cause it’s EoC and you can just sit still and tank since bosses deal 2 damage

[blazing field]

You tank the hits and hit it and hope you kill it before it kills you

[dense sundial]

you're talking about phase 3

[brittle escarp]

That’s true

[blazing field]

Yea like thats how it is n vanfilla too

[urban cloak]

right.

[blazing field]

if ur doing true melee or any other weapon without much range

[urban cloak]

forgot this boss has 3 phases in this damn mod

[dense sundial]

yk the vanilla hovering part where it's right above you

[blazing field]

During the end of the fight dude just spams the funny dashes

[urban cloak]

yeah

[dense sundial]

current rev eye hovers like 4x further above you

[urban cloak]

🥹

[blazing field]

incredible

[dense sundial]

and each successive dash in the chain of 3 travels further; the third one genuinely travels multiple screens

it just rockets into the ground until it's about to dash again and now you can't hit it again

[mellow oxide]

all i need in calamity is a rework on how the classes work as in more penalties to constantly using your class, and bosses being different regarding what accessories you have (cant spam menacing the whole time because one boss is best with defense modifiers or whatever and vice versa)

[still bluff]

https://tenor.com/view/horse-privileges-revoked-horse-privileges-revoked-helicopter-gif-23555719

[arctic cliff]

"more penalties to constantly using your class"

im gonna stop you right there

[mellow oxide]

yeah like mana sickness is a little boring imo

[still bluff]

all you need in calamity are massive and extremely controvertial changes to how the game works

[mellow oxide]

or ammo for ranger its basically infinite

[dense sundial]

the penalty to sticking with one class should be how the class's weapons are naturally designed

[mellow oxide]

fair enough maybe i need to rethink my statement

[dense sundial]

like melee having limited reach, ranger having limited aoe and versatility, mage being limited by mana

[still bluff]

those are things that could work in an entirely seperate mod that people can use entirely of their own volition

[lapis oak]

controvertial

[still bluff]

absolutely not calamity

[tropic jolt]

controvertical

[still bluff]

i'll horse you again

[pulsar cobalt]

KiriWhite

[vivid hemlock]

Kiri is the enemy.

[arctic cliff]

kiri -4 electrons from your atoms

[lapis oak]

you've never horsed me once what are you talking about

[dense sundial]

what about the hydrogens

[arctic cliff]

sure

@lapis oak your protons are now mine

[limpid grail]

this is a me-style typo

[dense sundial]

that's not what i'm saying

hydrogens have ONE electron

[mellow oxide]

i guess thats kinda the heart of terraria and i likely want a more challenging/ overhauled system but i get its not what the game is for

[hasty tangle]

gone but not forgotten

[arctic cliff]

well im taking the electrons as well

so they're techncially just protons

or hydrogen nuclei if you're insane

[lapis oak]

IT WAS YOU

[still bluff]

[lapis oak]

😡

[pulsar cobalt]

tupid never realised

[dense sundial]

you would be penalized for sticking with melee by not being able to reach targets sometimes

and things like that

[rotund venture]

why can mods change our nicknames

[dense sundial]

that's what i meant

[rotund venture]

that's so rude

[lapis oak]

FUCK YOU MEAN HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO KNOW WHO'S THE CULPRIT

[grim pecan]

If you want to switch classes more consistently you can just... switch your class more consistently

[mellow oxide]

yeah i understand

[brittle escarp]

Unfortunately, mage never worries about mana and all melee weapons are ranged

[grim pecan]

i'm working on it alright

[dense sundial]

CALAMITY mage never worries about mana and CALAMITY melee is ranger

vanilla has a lot less of these problems

[vivid hemlock]

sunny i need you to kill all mana flower players

[brittle escarp]

Fair

[mellow oxide]

maybe a change to how accessories are required for a battle, like some bosses require you to have some thing to see the upcoming attacks

idk dude im just throwing out crap

[brittle escarp]

Eh, vanilla has random stuff like scourge of the corruptor for no reason

[dense sundial]

this is because hardmode is bad 👍

[brittle escarp]

Just remove mana potions

Like 20% a joke

[tropic jolt]

I wish vanilla was a pre hardmode tech demo then maybe it would be good

[dense sundial]

classes can have a little design breakage anyway, just as a rare treat

[brittle escarp]

You have to engage with the mechanic

[vivid hemlock]

the more you play terraria the more youll realize that hardmode sucks

[cinder mural]

nooo the honse

[tropic jolt]

the player can have a little boss rushing, as a treat

[pulsar cobalt]

process of elimination

duh

[lapis oak]

I will eliminate you

[vivid hemlock]

etihWiriK

[tropic jolt]

inverted kiri

[vivid hemlock]

😊

[lapis oak]

HOLY etihw what a call back

haven't heard that since the Stone Age

[pulsar cobalt]

ok kiriblue

[vivid hemlock]

you WILL live with very little exploration for half the game
you WILL like with the events
you WILL fight multiple bosses in a row
post golem 😂
moon lord.

[tropic jolt]

exploration in my boss fighting simulator??? preposterous

[lapis oak]

why are you using crying laughing emoji

it looks uncanny

[vivid hemlock]

[tropic jolt]

horrible hog 😂😂😂😭

[rotund venture]

hoggible horse

[vagrant wind]

LOOOL 😂 😂 😂 😂 🤣 💯 🔥 🐖

[urban cloak]

insane how it takes one mention of It to devolve chat entirely

[hasty tangle]

its quite an instigator for chaos

or should i say...

a catalyst for calamity

[urban cloak]

🤯

[dull heart]

here i have something that might help

[lyric trellis]

What could this be

I wonder

[vivid hemlock]

curious

[still bluff]

xeroc tomorrow

[grave geyser]

real

[vivid hemlock]

we should have a day where we s- what the fuck

[dull heart]

what

[urban cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/mereka-ada-dua-gif-26176113

[lapis oak]

spill it out

[orchid finch]

And I wonder

If you know

What it means

Sorry

[dull heart]

hmm i wonder what it could be

[arctic cliff]

Darksun

[brittle escarp]

“With this sacred treasure-“

Wait is this just another divine swine bit

[dull heart]

no

[brittle escarp]

🤔

[dull heart]

ive given like 4+ spoilers for this thing over the past like 2 weeks

[median halo]

terrarian in his fight with xeroc will unlock a new form, the primordial light terrarian

[amber egret]

another point to xeroc tommorrow

[dull heart]

well actually

it's not xeroc sorry

-# this IS related to my name that one day though

[still bluff]

every time you post something i say it's xeroc

[median halo]

we know its the saros possession upgrade

one tier above

💡

[stuck kite]

clearly its realm ravager

[dense sundial]

[muscle man voice] give me your money

just finished a round of testing m1 garand... i gotta say, despite being a true melee main i love garand and want to see more things like it

ranger really needs more emphasis on requiring good aim and giving satisfying damage and feedback for it

[tribal isle]

Is this a life sized eow plush

[lyric trellis]

Xeroc magic wand

[still bluff]

nidhogg

[dull heart]

Primordial Light speed

anyway y'all have had enough clues from me you can figure it out

[thorn pier]

its not a weapon

[lapis oak]

doze's tierlist page abandoned forever gg

[dull heart]

Not true

[lapis oak]

🐦

[dull heart]

I should make a mod that interfaces with the website

[lapis oak]

this weapon needs to be killed

[dull heart]

so you can see the tier of an item in game

[dull heart]

no it doesn't

it just needs to work

shark mega nerfed it after I balanced it

[lapis oak]

it needs to be put down doze I'm sorry

[dull heart]

no

[fierce hearth]

Please don't kill my yoyos...

Please. ... ..

[misty wren]

KILL

:KILL:

[fierce hearth]

[misty wren]

fuck i forgot i dont have nitro

[terse dew]

Run it back we need 2017 lacerator

[vagrant wind]

dog viable lacerator 🙏

[lapis oak]

goat

[dull heart]

that's it I'm removing Bladedge Railbow and Devil's Devastation

[lapis oak]

...worth 😔

[grim pecan]

:(

[lapis oak]

some sacrifices are needed for a better world

[dull heart]

And also removing kiri

[blazing field]

what is bladedge railbow

is that the perennial crossbow

[fierce hearth]

Honestly I don't mind if bloodstone weapons aren't super competitive in terms of damage across the board, considering their theming is healing oriented it'd be fine if lacerator landed firmly in the utility category as opposed to raw damage

[misty wren]

yes

[blazing field]

yeah kill it thanks

wholesome

[dull heart]

Lacerator healing was terrible too

[fierce hearth]

Well I'm not saying it is

Just saying if saving it requires it to not be a good DoG killer, that's fine

[lapis oak]

Lacerator requires too much work for that amount of Orbs

[still bluff]

@grim pecan see everyone agrees

[blazing field]

I just think its lame as hell how many damn borong ass ore weapons this mod has

[grim pecan]

don't you dare

[blazing field]

there dosent need to be a yoyo for every ore there dosent need to be a bow for every ore PLEASE

[dull heart]

Well I'm fixing that

[grim pecan]

railbow will be the only perrennial weapon that lives because i like it

even if it has to be standalone

[still bluff]

rework your railbow

[misty wren]

that one summoner weapon whatsitcalled

[lyric trellis]

You can only save 2 bows what will they be

[dull heart]

aerial bane and clockwork how

[misty wren]

i choose clockwork bow and uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm what other bows are there

[dull heart]

Aerial bane

Thread of eradication

[misty wren]

heavenly gale i pick that one

[lapis oak]

Heavenly Gale's bolt shader is broken is that addressed yet

for the new update

talking about it

[urban cloak]

broken how

send a video

[dull heart]

I fixed it today

[dull heart]

As part of this

[lapis oak]

cool

[urban cloak]

oh it was an issue with the prim trail then

[lapis oak]

I can't see anything else about those spoilers you posted other than Saros 2

[urban cloak]

cool

[dull heart]

yea

[dull heart]

well why would Saros 2

[lapis oak]

the fuck?

Effervescence can't damage passive Immolator

is that intentional

[agile latch]

very important spoiler for hog wild

[lapis oak]

why it actually fits 😭

[lyric trellis]

Strawberry elephant

[grim pecan]

some lore to go along with it

[fathom girder]

Yhelephant

[vivid hemlock]

elephantkiller

[hidden belfry]

Greatest heater in the world 🔥

[amber egret]

hm. this gives no token to any theorem. its not ravager or old duke or xeroc

[amber egret]

why did you edit specifically A-PLS

[lapis oak]

🥀

what happened @ Sunny

also yeah can figure

I thought something was wrong with HF

[amber kettle]

just curious, does anyone know why they removed universal collapse from phase 2 of the dog fight?

[hidden ridge]

That was a glitch

[lean relic]

They will never remove dokuro tracks

So likely a bug

[tropic jolt]

do you have infernum mod

[amber kettle]

ok i was worried for a second

[amber kettle]

yes, is that doing it?

[dull heart]

Because you gave infernum on

[lapis oak]

if you not playing Infernum with Infernum mode on then don't have it enabled

[dull heart]

infernum mod breaks things when used outside of infernum difficulty

[tropic jolt]

infernum mod without infernum difficulty causes bugs

[amber kettle]

ok

im already frustrated with brainstorm a bit, that would have made me crash out

[lapis oak]

omg what happened here

disaster of a tier why post WoF have so many bad options

[thorn pier]

worst tier made

[grim pecan]

It's already been buffed dw

[lapis oak]

Sunny address the the

the

Event Horizon

[ripe warren]

just recently beat the new DOG fight

[grim pecan]

Helium Flash now always crits, and increasing crit rate now increases crit damage in a ratio of 1% CR = 2% CD
It's a system that Doze made, several extremely slow firing weapons now use it

[ripe warren]

t'was peak

[grim pecan]

Base damage was nerfed to compensate

[lapis oak]

post Mechs Rogue is also sad, 2 extremely cool options suck

[grim pecan]

Does remind me that I need to further buff Event Horizon, ty

[lapis oak]

this shit competing with preboss vanilla with how many ass options is crazy

[barren nacelle]

Glorious End is only in F tier because its out of its element. Don't restrain him like this.

[lapis oak]

at post WoF

[barren nacelle]

ALSO NEW Z TIER

EVIL SMASHER NO

Has Evil Smasher always been this low

[lapis oak]

(deserved)

🥹

reborn someday

[barren nacelle]

Save Evil Smasher... Dozeoze...

[grim pecan]

wonder why

[barren nacelle]

Jesus

[dusk bronze]

drataliornus 0.5

[barren nacelle]

Just reintroduce backfire atp

[lapis oak]

imagine pulling all that skill nohit true melee just to be worse than Storm Saber a fucking homing projectiles sword is crazy

[still bluff]

lmao

[barren nacelle]

Put the final nail in the coffin idegaf anymore

[vivid hemlock]

melee projectiles 😊

[dull heart]

Because a lot of the options are meant to help you explore early hardmode

Just like why pre boss has a lot of bad options

[vocal dew]

Imagine if there's a teleporting backstab weapon...

Would be funny as true melee option...

[grim pecan]

omw to test event horizon

[vivid hemlock]

omg another flesh totem teaser

surely the mage accs will be next update...

[grim pecan]

they will

[vivid hemlock]

[dry whale]

GLORIOUS END WHAT DID TTHEY DO TO YOU

NOOOOOO!!!!!!

[lapis oak]

Yeah but good options for Calamity side are like non existent 😭

Except Rogue

[vivid hemlock]

also like theres not really anything to explore in early hm rn

[vocal dew]

Why is hawk remote so low...?

Isn't it good support utility...?

[steel pike]

They should put… Hawk to a… higher place…

Wait. Say that again?

Hawk.. to a…

Ok sorry

[dull heart]

it's okay but it's still competing against just using a strong minion

[vocal dew]

Ah...

[lapis oak]

I suppose it's at least better than Sirius pre 2.1?

[mellow spade]

I swear by Spear of Destiny being a very consistent option for Cal Clone + Plantera

[fierce hearth]

Does the chart account for using only 1 hawk with the remaining slots occupied by a stronger minion (for debuff application)

[lapis oak]

Any tiercorders in chat

Pull up the killtimes for Hawk

[agile latch]

amethistling

[fierce hearth]

That's grubs

[vivid hemlock]

omg i love it

i think the new ame scuttler (if it is that) is alot better

[lapis oak]

Very goofy

[mellow spade]

just a little goober

[vagrant wind]

@neat dock

[grim pecan]

edible

i wish to consume

[agile latch]

temperamental (but weak ) blind lizards that consume only quartz

[vagrant wind]

its absolute ass by itself

[neat dock]

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-boom-knuckles-the-echidna-approved-gif-13958579007347866826

[lapis oak]

u wrong

[agile latch]

it problably would have a diferent behaviour from topaz frog, even though both are too weak to do anything to you, while the frog runs for its life crying if you hit it or try to mine it, the amethist one problably would try to ram the player, only to bounce back

[vivid hemlock]

youre a chud i dont care

[dull heart]

that's a very, very low bar lol

Sirius was good actually for a while

[dull heart]

Then Saros and Sirius lost slot scaling (why)

[agile latch]

yea its amethist scuttler

doing a new pass on them since i want to get them real soon

and current amethist is kinda turbo nothing burger

[lapis oak]

I know xd

[agile latch]

not much shaped at all.. its just kind of lizard with random crystals on top

[dull heart]

It's not better than old TPE

[neat dock]

friends

[dull heart]

back when it took like 40 minutes to kill provi

[agile latch]

guh the silhouette

[polar tide]

can yuou give me the link to this spreasdsheet i donr rememmber wgere to find it

[dull heart]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10bgBHu7apfftITBOQVJrtYCiakZVGC4reJcvfJqMBEM/edit?usp=sharing

[vivid hemlock]

the new one is so rotund...

[polar tide]

thank u

[lapis oak]

You not in tiercord? i thought every devs are in there

[polar tide]

no

[mellow spade]

6:21 brimmy

[steel pike]

ringular in nature..

is that a word

I like that word

[dull heart]

tiercord doesn't have most devs

[lapis oak]

Gotcha

[blazing field]

new one def has alot more personality

[vivid hemlock]

mhm

[blazing field]

is this little bit supposed to be a single tiny eye under a sort of brow or a mouth with 1 tiny fang

i assume its the latter but wanted to make sure

the crystal itself looks alot nicer too

[foggy lagoon]

what post mech melee should i get

[polar tide]

chunkular

[main estuary]

imagine a scenario where wulfrum controller wasn't an E-tier

[agile latch]

tiny fang

[dull heart]

fun fact: rogue is going to have another auric tier weapon soon

[blazing field]

awesome

[agile latch]

he is blind

[dull heart]

and finally a good auric tier weapon

[agile latch]

while the frog will have huge peepers

[polar tide]

awwwww

[blazing field]

I think out of the old scuttlers mt favorite was ruby

[polar tide]

acutally this is me

[lapis oak]

that's gonna be misunderstood a lot from the first look

[polar tide]

i look likretthast

[blazing field]

I rreally liked the ahmmerhead aspect, it gave him a sort of top heavy look too with how tiny the forelims were

emerald scuttler was also neat

[lyric trellis]

What!

[blazing field]

Wonder what they'll look like now

[lapis oak]

I only thought of it as eyes

[dull heart]

What!

[blazing field]

And yeah amethyst and i think,,, sapphire? scuttler

felt like the weakest ones

[agile latch]

animation will help

he will open his mouth

[blazing field]

they were kinda generic and didnt hvae much character

[lapis oak]

aight then

[agile latch]

he is meant to be spicy, even though it deal 0 damage it will still ram at the player legs

and bounce back

[polar tide]

awwwwwwwwwww

[blazing field]

sapphire was like, the aquatic lizard

[agile latch]

while frog topaz one will be super scared

if you hit it or move near it it will begin crying and run away

anxiety creature

[polar tide]

AWWWWWWWWWWWW

[lyric trellis]

One day dynamic pursuer will be saved

[dull heart]

no

[blazing field]

for being a aquatic lizard it didnt feel very aquatic ,,,

just kinda had a tail fin and thats it

[agile latch]

saphire i think should be the super peaceful one of the crawlers, just chilling on water, i might keep the fox salamander design, users seem to like it

[dull heart]

dynamic Pursuer will never be changed even in numbers to preserve the sanctity of historical artifacts

[agile latch]

just shape it a bit more and refine

[polar tide]

i dony even remember wgat new sapphie looked like

[blazing field]

the idea of it being a salamdner guy is neat yeah

the execution on the old one was kinda lackluster though imo

[polar tide]

i like the emetald one

[blazing field]

same yeah

[agile latch]

emerald i want to keep as a chicken chameleon, problably make it very touchy and curious ingame

[blazing field]

emerald n ruby were my favorites

[agile latch]

like it randomly touching the player with its tongue because its curious

[blazing field]

diamond felt a bit weird

like

[agile latch]

these are the crawlers

[blazing field]

if i didn't know it was the diamond scuttler i wouldn't have guessed

[agile latch]

current ones

ruby problably should be john wrath

[lapis oak]

I literally can only see Saros 2 I can't 😭

[polar tide]

so so cute

[agile latch]

super angry lizard, while diamond is snobby and regal

[blazing field]

Ruby should be fucking evil as shit fucking, evil kill

[lapis oak]

Why is it spoilered

[agile latch]

diamond just look you up and judge you for existing

mini yharon

[blazing field]

I think ruby being more of a physical enemy that rams into you at 50 km per hour and fucking hates you while diamond keeps its distance and just harrasses with you with projectiles would be cool

[agile latch]

and amber is dead, and being kicked by stupid dumb beetle

[blazing field]

would fit the idea ur going for with them too

[dull heart]

well why might it look like Saros then

[agile latch]

diamond will be projectiles yea

its the dragon one, so stuff like diamond fire breath

and magic stuff

[polar tide]

diamond cuold have, little rainbowy accent.s

[vivid hemlock]

amber will still be the roley one right

[agile latch]

diamond need a redesign since.. you know

bird design

[blazing field]

amber still bug ..

[agile latch]

dia plan on it i think

[lapis oak]

wait is it just Saros again?

[dull heart]

no

[blazing field]

even if it wasn't for a bird design it's kinda just

boring im not gonna lie

[lapis oak]

and not the secret Rogue addition

[blazing field]

like again if i didnt know this was a diamonds cuttler i wouldnt have guessed

[dull heart]

it's not saros

[lyric trellis]

🥀

[blazing field]

the only thing giving off Diamond are the little diamonds on its neck and even then those arent very like

immediately recognizable

[agile latch]

🥹 its so sad (and cool its a really enjoyable enemy) that fables added their gem scarab thing..

[blazing field]

if u told me this was some enemy for sky update i wouldnt have doubted

[blazing field]

SPELUNKER SCARAB

[agile latch]

will feel really guilty now making amber scuttler, but also it existed for a while too..

[blazing field]

theyre actual demons dude

they killed me more than, any other enemy in zigguerat

[agile latch]

i think they are diferent enough conceptually sorta.. since the amber one is more the fossil

[blazing field]

evil little buge

[vivid hemlock]

amber is fully cased in tho while the spelunker scarab is more of a rock

[blazing field]

once u get the hang of their telegraph it becomes alot easier

to deal with them

but theyre rly scary at first 😭

were for me anyways

kept killing me ,,,

[blazing field]

yeah but theyre both bugs rolling a thingy around

[rotund venture]

maybe yall could wait to see what vanilla does with the mage gem staves before you do the gem crawler reworks?

[blazing field]

the real difference is that one is just rolling a big rock full of ore while the other is rolling a big ball of amber

with a dead guy inside

[blazing field]

That seems like a bad idea i wont lie

Specially since we have no idea when that's coming ,,

[rotund venture]

1.4.5.7 isn't gonna be like a major update it should be relatively soon

[blazing field]

thats what they always say.

[rotund venture]

then again relogic

yeah

[lapis oak]

1.4.5 was literally the same

[rotund venture]

still, would be neat to have the gem crawler attacks/behaviors be similar to what the new staves do

[polar tide]

remember when they did a small update for their dead cells collab

[blazing field]

remember when they 1.3 was the last update

[lapis oak]

the fabled crossover update that everyone knows and loves

[blazing field]

remember when 1.2 was the last update,

remember when 1.1 was the las

[vivid hemlock]

guys remember 1.1 was the last update

snailed...

[rotund venture]

okay but how many of you actually remember that

[blazing field]

every single major update was said to be the last update

[vivid hemlock]

it doesnt matter if theyre still consgantly updating the game 😭

[dull heart]

I don't think 1.1 was ever officially said to be the last update

[rotund venture]

(I actually don't think 1.2 was said to be the last?)

[blazing field]

I think it was but idrm

[dull heart]

1.2 was

1.1 wasn't

[rotund venture]

no it def was

[dull heart]

1.1 red just vanished for a year then dropped 1.2

[blazing field]

1.1 was hardmode

wof, mechs

[dull heart]

iirc

[rotund venture]

red said development wasa done and vanished

[blazing field]

the implication that golem was intended to be the fianl boss at one point btw

awesome stuff

[polar tide]

relogic has final terraria updates the way disney has first gay characters

[blazing field]

he WAS the final gboss until duke was added

but the scary part is taht he was fully intended to be the final boss if 1.2 was intended to be the final update

[agile latch]

bald, baldy

[vivid hemlock]

why so bald...

[polar tide]

why you bald him...

so mean

[rotund venture]

TRIANGLE CRITTERS

PEAK

[blazing field]

Are u gonna be able to mine the amethyst without killing him and this is what happens

[lyric trellis]

Shaved

[dull heart]

golem was the final boss until 1.3 dropped

Duke has always been a side challenge

[polar tide]

hes so fucking round under the crystal

[rotund venture]

don't bodyshame him!!!

[lyric trellis]

Duke is a better boss so that’s why he’s the final boss I fear

[blazing field]

its true

[polar tide]

did i say it was a bad thing

[vivid hemlock]

hes a chud

[rotund venture]

NOOOO

[blazing field]

golem dosent initiate any sort of credits so in my book duke was the final boss

[agile latch]

it will be based on their personality and design

[blazing field]

🙂‍↕️

[dull heart]

okay so the one source I can find of saying 1.1 is the final update is relogic when they released undeluxe

[agile latch]

setting up their personality this early will be good for designing them

the current ones are kinda a bit sauceless

[blazing field]

are the scuttlers all just a bunch of entirely unrelated animals that decided to eat rocks one day

thats wholesome

bound not by blood but by the fact they wnat to, eat rocks

😊

[rotund venture]

eating rocks 🔥

yum

[polar tide]

i wanna eat rocks with my friends ❤️ ❤️

[agile latch]

they are all lizards,

[fathom girder]

BAAALD

[agile latch]

but super specialized for a specific gem type..

[polar tide]

topaz no frog anymore...?

[agile latch]

i assume there was a john lizard the first and then its sons started specializing for specific gem types, and these gems changed their bodies with their magical properties etc

topaz will be frog

[polar tide]

or lizard that look like frog

[blazing field]

conergent vevoluti

[agile latch]

just more square and stylized

exxagerated

[rotund venture]

triangle can you sneak slugbuns into the next update without telling anyone?

[agile latch]

well lizard and amphibians

[polar tide]

good

[blazing field]

game theory ... ermmm

scuttlers and scourges share a common ancestor

yupp

they diverged 5 days ago

[polar tide]

you mama shares a common ancestor

[agile latch]

scourge is the sand scutler

it even drops sand

[blazing field]

true

[agile latch]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-ishowspeed-speed-stream-ishowspeed-stream-speed-nod-gif-1082323842437565509

[blazing field]

aquatic scourge is the,

plutonium scuttler

[agile latch]

true

DoG is the cosmilite scutler

[polar tide]

scourge is pearl shard scuttler duh

[agile latch]

scourge being the glass scutler

[dull heart]

ahahaha I found the post saying 1.1.2 was the final update

[blazing field]

I LOVE EATING

[agile latch]

i still want to do that turtle enemy

[blazing field]

GLASS YUM

[agile latch]

based on mata mata.. (is that the name)

[blazing field]

the mata mata?

[polar tide]

yes

[rotund venture]

crumchy

[agile latch]

the desert turtle that can spew liquid glass

[polar tide]

the fucking weird guys

Im sorry it what

[blazing field]

wasnt there gonan be a underworld ash forest variant too

[polar tide]

in real life???

[blazing field]

NO I THINK HE MEANS THE ENMEY

[agile latch]

no i mean the enemy in cal would

[polar tide]

OKAY

LMFAOOOO

[agile latch]

mata mata cant spew liquid glass

[blazing field]

in real life it has a tongue that looks like a worm

[agile latch]

🥹

[vivid hemlock]

😭

[polar tide]

I WAS LIKE.

[blazing field]

tahts pretty cool still i think

[polar tide]

WHAT

[blazing field]

come to my mouth little fish

[vivid hemlock]

irl mata mata spewd out molten glass confirmed...

[agile latch]

in cal it would have a super hot breath that

transform nearby sand into glass

it should problably be able to spit sand too it can glassify

[blazing field]

theres alot of reptiles in the desert

basilisk, scourge, mata mata

[agile latch]

i mean there is turtonator

[rotund venture]

look real life has some fucked up critters I wouldn't be surprised by a glass spitting reptile atp

[steel pike]

hi

[blazing field]

though i mean thats

that checks out

[agile latch]

there was also a

[blazing field]

helo

your pfp

[agile latch]

amber scutler there too

[blazing field]

horror

[agile latch]

but it died..

[steel pike]

I KNOW

2 whole minutes… no music..

[agile latch]

yharim killed the entirety of amber scutler family, same thing he did with the mammoths

[steel pike]

Not gonna say more

🍝

[agile latch]

do you know its canonnicaly yharim killed every single mammoth besides one

[blazing field]

its true ,

[agile latch]

who he froze in a ice cube

as punishment

[steel pike]

noooo

[polar tide]

i cant believe yharim would do this. wow

[blazing field]

yharim killed all of the mammotsh because they were beloved by the god of trunks

[steel pike]

what does he have against mamith…

no…

[rotund venture]

did not realize Permafrost is a mammoth

[agile latch]

its his revenge agaisnt the mega mammoth dragon

who refused to join the dragon cause

[arctic cliff]

WAIT

[blazing field]

is the seacilian still real

i liked that guy

[agile latch]

he killed all of its sons besides one, the chosen one, who was frozen in a ice cube

that you get in the ice shrine

[main estuary]

what a cryogenic stunt

[arctic cliff]

qhat happened to the previous awesome scuttler redesigns you were doing

[blazing field]

theyre being remade

he just showed amethyst

hes a chungling now

[agile latch]

if you bring the eleumphant to yharon, yharon get special new dialogue

[blazing field]

thats true.

[polar tide]

put all of this in the future content doc

[agile latch]

unironically i want to make a eleumphant upgrade where it get dragon wings

Lesser mammoth dragon

[blazing field]

🔥

[agile latch]

or well it isnt great.. its mega

what is the small version of mega

mini?

[tropic jolt]

worlds end everlasting falling whale will defeat yharim

[blazing field]

mini

mini mammoth drake

mega mammoth dragon

[polar tide]

mammoth pequeno

[steel pike]

drunk from dragging boil

[blazing field]

i hope cal can get some more post ml enemies soon ...

the economy

[barren nacelle]

I will roll him around

exodium scuttler

luminite scuttler

divine geode scuttler

godslayer scuttler

100000 scuttlers

[vivid hemlock]

gem scuttlers being soon maybe means that frogfish may be soon to...

[blazing field]

supportcrispy scuttler

oh true

frogfish beloved

[vivid hemlock]

i love making critters out of vanilla shit

[blazing field]

its kind of a nothingburger enemy so its nice seeing it turn into just a little critter guy

[barren nacelle]

crispy scuttler

[vivid hemlock]

corals, gems, what else

[barren nacelle]

Shell critters would go hard

[polar tide]

https://tenor.com/view/kitten-wiggle-cat-kitten-wiggle-kitten-crazy-gif-902192699507662021

[barren nacelle]

little hermit crabs

[steel pike]

I like some critters sometimes

[blazing field]

palecrab spirit

[steel pike]

the carb.

🦀

[polar tide]

we shouuld add a kitten to calamity that goes meow

[steel pike]

agree!

but what if it also went woof sometimes

[polar tide]

no

[steel pike]

why not

[polar tide]

onky meow

[steel pike]

it would be a

twist of events some would say…

🤫

[polar tide]

only meow

[barren nacelle]

alex dev item

meow meow voice item

[blazing field]

that exists already smh

[agile latch]

wasnt there a

hardmode scuttler

is that guy still alive

[blazing field]

crystal

from the hallow

[steel pike]

Grrr…

[blazing field]

which is like

why would u need a crystal scuttler

theres crystals EVERYWHERE ...

[vivid hemlock]

yeah i wss gonna say

[steel pike]

And why we need a barking cat

[vivid hemlock]

its too common

[polar tide]

meow

[vivid hemlock]

eneter the hallow and you get one tousand crystasl immediately

[agile latch]

gelatin crystal scuttler

[vivid hemlock]

no....

[blazing field]

did cal make gelatin crystal consumable again yet btw

idrm

[agile latch]

not yet

is there any other material that could be scuttler..

[blazing field]

hopefully soon thats like the boss item you need to be unconsumable the least

[agile latch]

i mean there will be perennial in the future

[blazing field]

tis so common

i cant think of anything

[agile latch]

quetzalcoatl scuttler

[blazing field]

all the vanilla gems have one

[agile latch]

winged serpent

[blazing field]

sea prism has one

and hallow crystals dont rly, need one

theres lumenyl but i think a lumenyl scuttler relies on a abyssrework

cuz rn alot of enemies already just, drop lumenyl

[arctic cliff]

id say the sea prisms but like

[polar tide]

stone scuttler

dirt scuttler

[blazing field]

and even if they didnt lumenyl is rather easy to mine too

prismback

blinded angler isnt real

kill

kill

[vivid hemlock]

the gumble prismback

[blazing field]

kill

[arctic cliff]

ya

Prism-Back IN FACT

[blazing field]

they look the fucking same so i dont blame you

[arctic cliff]

USED TO BE CANONICALLY A SCUTTLER

[blazing field]

one is supposed to be a turtle

[polar tide]

you cant mine lumenyl in basecal i think???

[blazing field]

the other was supposed to be a anglerfish

and they look the fucking same

[polar tide]

you can in infernum

[blazing field]

u can

[polar tide]

wat

where

how

[blazing field]

theres little lumenyl crystals in layer 4

theyre everywhere

[polar tide]

wtf

[arctic cliff]

hang on

[vivid hemlock]

wad tjis changed wtf

[polar tide]

is that where the mineable ones from infernum come from

[polar tide]

WHAT

[blazing field]

yeah tahts not even a infernum thing

[polar tide]

WHAT THE FUCK

WHEN WAS THIS ADDED

??????

[arctic cliff]

ya

[agile latch]

pre historic gamer addition

[arctic cliff]

honestly

i dont blame you

[main estuary]

i've never seen this in the abyss

[polar tide]

i literally never fucking knew about this

[agile latch]

i need to work on the scoria snail eventually

snail offshoot

its a pseudo crawler, not part of the family but works similarly

[arctic cliff]

i thought lumenyl was meant to be a chemical

and not

for some reaosn

a crystal

[lean relic]

Fang like crystal

[arctic cliff]

AHAH

BLOODSTONE SCUTTLER

[polar tide]

youre a bloodstone scuttler

[vivid hemlock]

we need to kill bloodstone

[vagrant wind]

remove ravager

[vivid hemlock]

evey material in cal is either a metal or a rock 😊

[agile latch]

time to work on topaz

[blazing field]

the gunglus

[arctic cliff]

i love topaz scuttler

[agile latch]

i will try to make him comically square

[vivid hemlock]

love him...

[polar tide]

dubious circuitry scuttler

[vivid hemlock]

this is very good

[arctic cliff]

ngl i think hes fine rn, but that sounds cool

[blazing field]

carnymassacre scuttler that drops the carnymassacre material for you to craft carnymassacre tools & gear and even furniture when you kill it

[wise bolt]

wht the fuck

[lyric trellis]

Got it, readding all the removed jungle materials

[polar tide]

we are adding this in the alex update

[vivid hemlock]

👹

[wise bolt]

alex update

[agile latch]

tofuser

what you think of amethist scuttler

tofu tofu tofu sahur

[blazing field]

tofu tofu tofu sahur

[vivid hemlock]

what the hell

[wise bolt]

?

[lyric trellis]

Hell

[agile latch]

this guy tofu

[blazing field]

la chungo

[vivid hemlock]

tofu tofu tofu deuer

[blazing field]

if i have one critique is that i feel like the version without the crystal looks a little weird

it dosent really look like u broke off the crystal it just looks like,

the crystal is a clothing item and its naked now

idk how to describe it 😭

[wise bolt]

very silly. but never say tofu tofu tofu sahur again

[cinder mural]

Tofu

[vocal kelp]

Yoooo triple t

[blazing field]

i think u could add a bit more of the crystal's "base" and give it a more shattered look if the idea is for it to be like broken

[blazing field]

tofu gangnam style