calamity-update-talk

[deft lily]

i mean yeah i agree that it can go too far sometimes

[main estuary]

same case for the brainstorm tomorrow joke afaik

[deft lily]

but this kinda just felt like an unnecessary jab

[wary igloo]

the hog trend has been sunk for good... what a calamity

[earnest jewel]

Time to brainstorm new ideas.

[blazing field]

im mean and green and lean

is that how it goes

i dont think it is i think igot it entirely wrong

[deft lily]

ok

[wary igloo]

no the saying is to rule with an iron fist

[earnest jewel]

Mean, green bean machine.

[wary igloo]

and get the server to die from inactivity

[still bluff]

ein we need you

[dusk bronze]

is that dai i can't check

no it's fluffy

[deft lily]

anyways bye

[still bluff]

no daichin isn't allowed to react to stuff here

that would be illegal

[rose laurel]

I mean it's not about feeling sad

It's more about going

"What the fuck"

[dusk bronze]

still falls flat imo

[grim pecan]

to be fully clear, this is a joke image and total misinformation. do not proliferate this image, even as a joke.

[blazing field]

It feels less like "what the fuck" and more like "Ok i guess?" to me

[rose laurel]

Tonal whiplash between "Funky rave crab" vs "Infested corpse"

[blazing field]

Again

It's hard to produce nay sort of significant tonal whiplash out of Crabulon imo

[dusk bronze]

where did it even come from

[strange cargo]

Crabulon needs like a sad orchestral theme or smth lowkey

[thorn pier]

crab is a silly fight whos taking him seriously

[grim pecan]

doesn't matter, just some people who wanted to make a funny post

[dusk bronze]

that's ominous

[grim pecan]

it's just me not wanting to name names, that's all

[still bluff]

their time is short.

[blazing field]

it was me. sorry

[blazing field]

soz if i've upset you btw

[deft lily]

all good, no worries

[arctic cliff]

i dunno about you crabulon would be way better if for one attack it released spores that cause you to hallucinate a bullet hell

and they're in the style of the oscilloscope mushrooms in the music video for infestation

[thorn pier]

add cutscenes mid fight cuz this is totally what we need

[glacial valve]

Is the wiki up to date for the newest update i wanna see which weapon reworks look the coolest so ik what to go for as mage

[barren nacelle]

I'm trying

https://tenor.com/view/dark-souls-collapse-defeated-gif-14214156

[glacial valve]

ty bro im saving this 🙏

[lapis oak]

👴

it's been 70 years

[thorn pier]

2016 was 70 years ago

[terse dew]

It's true

[barren nacelle]

can't believe they removed arid grandeur movement abilities literally 1984

[lapis oak]

what?

[halcyon seal]

Want to feel old? Minecraft was released 2453 years ago today

[deft lily]

[summer shore]

That's the pogo one right

I know they killed the junjle one (good change)

[lapis oak]

no Arid Grandeur pogo is still there

[barren nacelle]

They removed it affecting vertical velocity 😔

[lapis oak]

it's the onhit effect

and tbh I like that being gone more lol

it was kinda annoying to get used to

[vagrant wind]

🐖

[gloomy grove]

wth

[rich ginkgo]

is stohne still happening

nevermind that's already in the game lmfao

[vagrant wind]

hog

[polar tide]

i love hollow knight silksong

[gloomy grove]

you could say that again

[polar tide]

i love hollow knight silksong

[vagrant wind]

that again

[pseudo vector]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/290256231879147521/1368781195189424221/baconpancake67_-_1918497042076217599.gif

[rustic kernel]

Did Calamity heavily nerfed ancient cloth drop chances?

I grinded more than 100 ghouls, got 2

[polar tide]

?

how i feel being awake at 5 am with school at 9:30

[amber egret]

the field of pink and gold

the field of hog and horror

[amber egret]

hilariously, i think so

[polar tide]

no

you just got extremely unlucky

[vagrant wind]

I nerfed it

[polar tide]

it is only a 10% chance so only getting 2 from 100 ghoul kills isn't out of the realm of just being crazy unlucky

[stuck kite]

if you wanna be sure if anything has tampered with the drop rates, check the bestiary

the answer is supposed to be no but you never can be sure if you play modpacks especially

[vagrant wind]

green

[high scaffold]

Green Gaster?

Green Gaster and Susie are going to nuke hometown with the Ivy Mike bomb

[lean relic]

Gauss nuke

[main estuary]

Laser cannon

[dusk bronze]

i agree(n)

[tired adder]

very very late on this, but what about creating a thread here for exclusively hogposting, amidiasposting, futurecontentposting, so that jokes here can be remorselessly removed here?

maybe even with timeouts

[vagrant wind]

april fools update is coming....

its will be real

[high scaffold]

I dream of a day when most of the weapons will be reworked

[lean relic]

I dream of a day when most of the content gets reworked
And ready to yharim development

[high scaffold]

I actualy dont care much about yharim

[hasty hawk]

I wonder if the April fools event will do with Horrible Hog

[tropic jolt]

🙃

[deft lily]

my honest reaction:

[fierce nebula]

What is this image supposed to convey

[summer shore]

Fat rat

[azure oak]

orbular, rotundical

[summer shore]

Rat who's fat

[deft lily]

fat rat

big fat fuck

[fierce nebula]

🫧 🐀

[vivid hemlock]

[thorn pier]

🦈 ⛳️

[vagrant wind]

-# 🐖

[solemn crest]

Ratund

[polar tide]

Blows you up with my laser eyes

[tropic jolt]

valid response

[arctic cliff]

tosses the laser blasted body of nesegx into the Nyiragongo lava lake

[tropic jolt]

how are people getting their signus plushies already

I want my draeplush ☹️

[dry whale]

I ate all the draplushies

[tropic jolt]

we're sending you to the scrapyard

[dry whale]

try it.

[vagrant wind]

tries it

[thorn pier]

they ran out cuz [REDACTED] ate them all sorry

[polar tide]

What the fuck for real

[polar tide]

Un fucking fair i want my robot

[thorn pier]

thats because signus taste better than dron

[polar tide]

My dron is estimated to ship may 7 ☹️ siiighhhh

[tropic jolt]

sameeeeeee

I guess they focused on putting signus into production first

[solemn crest]

Signus grindset

[polar tide]

Grrrrrrrrrr

[dusk bronze]

C

[polar tide]

Trying not to smile at my phone rn upon seeing draeplush

[tropic jolt]

his time will come

hes such a fucking shrimp

[placid ocean]

shrimp pose

[placid ocean]

this looks like this

[cunning sequoia]

i need my shrimp posture husband

[polar tide]

Need to find my image hold on

[dusk bronze]

the image finder

[tropic jolt]

he is perfect in every way

I will be torturing him extensively

[placid ocean]

hog

when is hog update? genuinely

the swine overhaul

[thorn pier]

whats a hog

there was never a hog in calamity

what are u talking about?

[placid ocean]

that's why i said hog UPDATE

when hog get's added

[twin juniper]

The next update is mega mammoth super boss idk what ye talking about

[thorn pier]

exactly

idk where this hog talk is coming from

[placid ocean]

mammoth = big hog

[vagrant wind]

your mom = big hog

🤣 🤣

[placid ocean]

@dreamy finch

[main estuary]

why is this one part of the document geeked

while everything else is locked in

[placid ocean]

let there be hogs

[placid ocean]

random guy that spawns after you brutally murder a piggy

[hushed hazel]

the Horrible Hog

[tropic jolt]

the whole doc is horrible malicious energy honestly

I can feel the evil coming from it... 😨

[fierce nebula]

🐖

[thorn pier]

👺

[vivid hemlock]

Prepare yourself.

[fallow reef]

can't wait for calamitas and perma frost's faces

[high scaffold]

Supreme calamitas sure became harder in 2.1

The dynamic arena makes a huge difference

[main estuary]

honestly

[solemn crest]

The huh?

[main estuary]

she's not too different in difficulty

[distant raft]

less vertical during brothers hurts but more vertical during seekers is nice

[high scaffold]

The sepulcher part arena is very small

Sure makes it a real threat

[main estuary]

that's just because seps is almost filler to the fight for me

[twin juniper]

death mode brother phase is scary

[main estuary]

the curse of getting hit by either brothers projectiles

[distant raft]

though the very heavily reduced horizontal during seekers is a bit more menacing thanks to maelstrom being right there

[dull heart]

it was even more narrow at first

but they made me tone it down :(

[distant raft]

im not even sure if it's possible to nohit if hages were still a thing

[dull heart]

funnniest part of the new arena is it murders scal oneshots

she'll go into acceptance arena while you have to deal with all BHs still - including maelstrom

maelstrom is taller than the arena is

[main estuary]

touhou mode

[dull heart]

i'm 50% sure it's impossible to dodge

[high scaffold]

I wonder when is megalodon rework

[main estuary]

once the malevolent crab is added

[thorny fjord]

Peak

[twin juniper]

Real Context: Abyss variant of crabulon is being added, the hog told me in my nightmares

[rare tinsel]

all of them at the same time?

[polar tide]

Mrrow meow

[deft lily]

meow

[grave geyser]

One after the next

[blazing field]

I don't think we need a whole thread just for shitposting

Just don't interrupt convos with mindless shitpost spam

Jokes are fine as long as ur not being annoying about it

[deft lily]

I think everyone should shitpost

and when everyone shitposts

no one will be

/j

[blazing field]

Every channel should have shitposts. And when all messsages are shitposts.... none of them will be...

[deft lily]

exactly

[brittle escarp]

Hopefully soon 🙏

[rare tinsel]

LAME holy fuck

I want to be punished for my hubris

I dared to do the one frame SCal and now the weight of my sins must crush me

[dull heart]

you are don't worry

it's funnier being separate

[rare tinsel]

:steamhappy:

[dull heart]

suddenly you get halfway through bh2 and now the entire arena is whispering Maelstrom

bh3*

[rare tinsel]

like, does scal just sit there and watch you while you have to do them all

[dull heart]

yes

[tired adder]

was this implemented due to widely known scal oneshot clip?

[tired adder]

just equip chalice of blood god, if you want karma damage

[rare tinsel]

this sort of thing seems like something that was a bug during development that the devs thought was funny enough to just call a feature

[dull heart]

I know of no such specific widely known clip

and no

[dull heart]

it's not even a bug it's just

if her health is at acceptance levels she goes into acceptance arena

[tired adder]

because the clip didn't show scal locking you in small arena

or I misremember

[high scaffold]

I wonder what boss will be reworked next

I think we can safely exclude hive mind perfs and folly

[azure oak]

probably either EoW or skeletron

[main estuary]

it'd probably be the eater

[high scaffold]

Logicaly? Yeah. But I think it was stated that it will be whatever the devs feel like reworking next

[dull heart]

_ _

[dense sundial]

Can it be mechs 🥺

All of them

[high scaffold]

Oh, the

[dull heart]

Yeah

[high scaffold]

Yeah, I too think that realy needs a rework

[tropic jolt]

it will be

crabulon!

draedonGPT generate a new calamity boss rework

[thorn pier]

crabulon pls be a fraud and have the most forgettable lore

[main estuary]

crabulon please use your claws

[tropic jolt]

its tragic that sora AI is being shutdown... RIP crabulon

[main estuary]

one ai bubble popped

now to pop the rest

#makeramcheap

[thorn pier]

good news and then crabulon dies 😿

[brittle escarp]

It’s hilarious because crabulon spawns a higher density of projectiles than SCal but they all do 1 damage so it just doesn’t matter at all

[main estuary]

never doing calamity with remnants again

[amber egret]

Certainly! Here's your Calamity boss rework, perfect for a new update.

Exo Mechs

Now entirely based on the Exo Tank mount.
Fight Draedon while he shoots a barrage of bullets, missiles, and more!

actually does chatgpt know of the exo tank

[dusty tinsel]

Crabulon is the supreme being of the universe

[amber egret]

please do not make crabulon the next Horrible Hog

[tropic jolt]

this sounds more interesting than the current fight

literally anything is more interesting than mechs 2 though

[amber egret]

okay so you know Trojan Squirrel rework

that. its that. draegpt stole that

[tropic jolt]

draegpt stealing from peak

[amber egret]

a citizen was quoted saying they liked calamity. its me. i interviewed myself. im the citizen

[thorn pier]

peak source

[lean relic]

draetalk
draegpt

[dusty tinsel]

Explodes your pancakes with my mind

[lean relic]

Theres more right

[amber egret]

draeting sim

[tropic jolt]

reposting peak

[amber egret]

whys his forehead so big

[solemn crest]

It’s where his thoughts are

[cunning sequoia]

he works out at the library

[blazing field]

hello calamity update talk how arew e doing

[tropic jolt]

its over

[amber egret]

BREAKING NEWS: Famed mod developer Ozzatron announces Calamity's end: "fuuuck its all gone i pressed the big red shiny "delete Calamity Mod" button fuuuuucckkk"

[tropic jolt]

holy shit new vanilla spoilers

everybody panic

[lean relic]

Oh

Is it that time cyver

[tropic jolt]

calamity update talk can now discuss updates with no fear of hogs

[pulsar cobalt]

oh my god theyre finally changing the weapons that actually need changing

🥹

[tropic jolt]

for a few minutes anyways

[vivid hemlock]

i thought id never see the day...

[amber egret]

oh waow

are these the gem staves

[tropic jolt]

yes

[high scaffold]

No fucking way, vanila is reworking gem staves

They now actualy have diffirent roles and attack methods making more of them viable

Im gonna take a gamble of saying that new gem staves will be able to compete with calamity early mage weapons

[rancid pagoda]

they still need to do something about the grindy fallen star and mana crystal situation

[desert garnet]

there are plenty of stars

i managed to max my mana in one night

[rancid pagoda]

for one player

[lean relic]

Mana crystal juice when

[rancid pagoda]

go multiplayer and suddenly you're starved for stars

[amber egret]

big fan of Jugnle Juice

also they did fix that its called a meteor shower

[desert garnet]

its not that bad and you can say the same stuff about other stuff

obviously you have less stuff for one player when you play multiplayer

[rancid pagoda]

but everything else has many alternative methods of obtainment and each player can contribute to get stuff faster

stars just always fall the same rate

[high scaffold]

1.4.5 tmod is bouta be even crazier

[polar tide]

this is such a good image

whyyyy the fuck does it save was a webp

[azure oak]

thank you

[blazing field]

another terraria update is on the way

welcome back final update

[high scaffold]

I feel like calamity devs are going to have "a good time" adjusting the balance during the making of 1.4.5 port

New debuffs, anchor rework, paladins hammer rework, gem staves rework and so on

[blazing field]

i mean idk if they need to adjust balance for the sake of like

5 item reworsk

lol

[high scaffold]

Also the summoner rebalance

[blazing field]

the summoner rebalance is smth separate entirely

[tropic jolt]

the possession nerf hammer is coming...

[high scaffold]

Its mostly the debuffs and their incorporation

Like the hemorrhage

And the broken armor being applicable on enemies

I do wonder if they are going to tweak the hammer line

[vivid hemlock]

hammers just got tweaked in 2.1 idk if its gonna rlly get changed at all

[high scaffold]

I feel like the 1.4.5 rework was significant enough

It added splash on hitting tiles(dont remember if also works on enemies), armor break debuff and a faster single tap attack

[amber egret]

summoner rebalance when most endgame weapons will 100% just use ruthless

(they dont need AP when the damage boost is higher than the AP bonus)

[high scaffold]

Dynamic scaling

[amber egret]

well yea

[raw falcon]

calamity when summoner once again becomes the most busted class in the game:

[tropic jolt]

always has been

[high scaffold]

All that was needed is just patching up the holes

[brittle escarp]

10000 more years of busted summoner

[raw falcon]

well vanilla kinda did that already

and its uh. Pretty strong

the possession in particular worries me balance wise

because good grief that thing is ridiculous

[brittle escarp]

They might give it the zenith treatment

Post cosmilite or something

[tropic jolt]

its a bit harder to do that when its a drop and not a crafted item

[high scaffold]

For vanila possession has no issues since endgame

[tropic jolt]

but I guess they could

[brittle escarp]

Or just nerf it to hell

[raw falcon]

yeah but thats lame

[brittle escarp]

They did that with lunar armors

[raw falcon]

i wish they didnt

[brittle escarp]

The other option is summoner becomes even more busted than it already is, when it’s already so strong it makes the game not fun

[raw falcon]

pre dog viable lunar armors was fun

[brittle escarp]

Eh, it makes it so that tarragon and blood flare don’t really have a reason to exist

Limits build variety too

Idk, pre 1.4.5 summoner is so ludicrous that I don’t even think it’s worth playing due to lack of significant challenge, and post 1.4.5 will make it even that much stronger before the rework

They could halve summoner’s pre 1.4.5 damage and it would still be the best

They are going to have to borderline kill it for it to be workable

[tropic jolt]

maybe the cal reddit isnt all bad

[wicked pagoda]

2.1.3 patch when...

[amber egret]

heh .

[azure oak]

guy who made it posted it in media btw

[polar tide]

more

[dull heart]

no it's literally a direct moon lord drop with moon lord theming

It's just going to get nerfed hard

[brittle escarp]

Fair

I just meant Cosmilite because distortion or whatever

Idk

[lean verge]

is that a Chaos Emerald

[earnest jewel]

It's actually an Order Diamond.

[tropic jolt]

its actually a gemerald

[deft lily]

mayhaps

[dense sundial]

The real option is flattening Cal summons to a more vanilla balance standard, which has them depending on whips to be competitive solo

[brittle escarp]

Yeah

I agree

[dense sundial]

It’s a nice way to make solo summoner good without making summons contribute too much to non-summoner builds

[brittle escarp]

Having summons, sentries, and whips all initially be good enough, and then also adding stuff like eye of magnus is so stupid it’s actually rediculous

[brittle escarp]

I agree

Summons + whips + sentries should be on par with other classes

And using whips should be better than something like eye of Magnus

[dense sundial]

Summoner with good use of all its options should be a bit stronger than other classes, since it requires managing multiple weapons and getting kinda close with the squishiest armor

That’s what Cal wants to aim for iirc

[brittle escarp]

I suppose, especially since other classes can math that heightened output with the addition of summons to their main weapons

[livid violet]

would be cool to design other weapons type that act like whips cause the whip sound is the same for all of them, makes them feel the same.

[amber egret]

wait eye of magnus is good with summoner

i thought it was Not

oh it reduces dr

[thorn pier]

why would u think itd be bad

[amber egret]

idk i was under the impression Marked for Death increased crit damage or something along that

no clue how

oh no i got it from Marked for Death from Fargos thats what

which increases all damage taken by 1.5x

[brittle escarp]

True, unique sound effects would be cool

I just have no idea why summoner got whips

A true melee weapon

That scales with true melee stats

[amber egret]

i think the idea was that at first you'd whip the Minions to make them move faster

[brittle escarp]

Why not some micro-heavy targeting overlay or something

Like Bloons

[amber egret]

but then someone tried using them as like

Weapons

[brittle escarp]

Or different formations

Or different attack patterns

So many things

[amber egret]

personally i would like diff whip sounds for the diff whips

[brittle escarp]

But now we have Ranger, Ranger with more homing, mage with no mana, and true melee with goons

[amber egret]

like Kaleidoscope making jingling crystal sounds, Snapthorn making leaf sounds and snapping branches while empowered, dark harvest "cutting" the air and making evil ghost sounds when empowered

that'd be neat!

[livid violet]

100%

[solar hare]

@still bluff yo why you kick me

[lyric trellis]

They’re evil

[solar hare]

can you kick them

[tropic jolt]

the evil

[deft lily]

what the fuck bro uncool

👎

[hollow harness]

Good heavens

[thorny fjord]

Don't get hacked then silly.

[deft lily]

nah get hacked

trust

[tropic jolt]

$50 steam gift card: scam.com

[amber egret]

is this made by waweezy or someone else

[tropic jolt]

wait sorry

im being dumb it was somebody else one second

[deft lily]

seems legit

[blazing field]

hello everyone click this link --> www.paininflictor.com to get 500 calamitycoin for free

[amber egret]

click this link httpscolonforwardslashforwardslashyoutubedotcomforwardslashrickroll

[deft lily]

no way

i now have 500 trillion ozzcoin!!

[vivid hemlock]

where is the beast

[tropic jolt]

I think theorios made it

[vivid hemlock]

i need my money

[deft lily]

where is omni man

where is he

[amber egret]

amazing calamity update circus: theres hogni and amidias

[tropic jolt]

hogni 🐗

[lean relic]

lmao fluffy nickname changed to evil fluffy

[sinful crown]

would be cool if there is voice for boss fight in calamity

[still bluff]

Skill issue

[sinful crown]

like Scal or draedon

[tropic jolt]

I feel like it wouldnt fit

though scal and draedon are both voice acted in dokuros SBC upload and the boss rush tier 3 teaser respectively

[deft lily]

i would be good at voicing a dirt block

trust

[dry whale]

if youre dirt block I'm the dirtiest block

with 20% more dirt

[deft lily]

i see

[polar tide]

never happening ever

[lyric trellis]

Fluffy has been eradicated

[tropic jolt]

technically I think anybody could commission draedon to voice gianni and then mod it into the game

[amber egret]

gianni voicing draedon doesnt work with me

[deft lily]

jokes aside voice acting in game for fights is pretty contentious

imo

[amber egret]

wheres the one clip of uhh

"i play dairy farmer (i love dairy!) who spawns a cow (moooo.) but since my perk (aaaahh.) allows me two summons so i spawn another cow (moooo.)"

and it gets really loud

[deft lily]

also me personally idt it'd fit in a game like terraria

[tropic jolt]

you could maybe make it work if you designed the fight with voice acting in mind, but adding it onto the existing fights would not fit

but generally yeah I dont think voice acting fits in terraria at all

[deft lily]

yeah

[pearl sentinel]

https://youtu.be/EBIsZlV1jHk?si=4Jl4Swf6nvZh0nXI i cant find the exact one but

[lyric trellis]

Old Duke dialogue

[amber egret]

oh yea this is it

[deft lily]

to me when ppl ask for it its just kind of an attempt at fan service

[deft lily]

must...not...shitpost...

[amber egret]

i mean WotG did it good with having the voice acting being Once

[deft lily]

ok but thats wotg

[amber egret]

and thats only when you use the Rod of Harmony on Googlegiggle difficulty

[tropic jolt]

well thats just a shitpost it doesnt have to sound good

[deft lily]

^

[wide raven]

Add post moon lord whips

[vivid hemlock]

old duke dialogue system where he tells you about the story of calamity and how he was created, oh and also he downloads ccr into your tmod

[tropic jolt]

🐗✍️

[lyric trellis]

Old Duke explaining his origin and being the Catalyst for 22 and everything bad because he’s evil

[deft lily]

[vivid hemlock]

evil image

which fables dev created this

[tropic jolt]

the evil one

[proud plover]

https://forums.terraria.org/index.php?attachments/terraria_6iv28xb33w-gif.540072/

[distant raft]

ok

[deft lily]

which one? they are all evil

[proud plover]

New gem staffs ^^

[polar tide]

we are like 99.9% never ever doing voiced stuff ever again because we don't want dialogue/writing to be immortalized like that when the mod is still constantly changing and developing

like gianni voicing draedon is a thing that happened mostly just because cd wanted it lol and now we forever have this inaccurate depiction of draedon where he also says shit like "the serpent and its servants" and "the sun goddess"

[amber egret]

i personally think that voice acting is Evil unless the character itself deserves the aura

i am very sad to say that despite my enjoyment of Draedon and SCal, they do not deserve it

Yharim's gotta lock in and stop being a toddler then maybe but as of right now No

i can see DoG cackling like a madman when he snipes you with a 900 damage headshot though

[blazing field]

Voice acting on the mod itself. This surely is attainable and a good idea

[earnest jewel]

I will do it, just give me 5,000,000 Yharimbucks.

[blazing field]

roy is gonna have like undertale voice sounds you guys should do that itd be auraful

the diff characters with diff voice bits and stuff

[dull heart]

I think voice acting could work but it'd be a final polish thing

once everything is set

[earnest jewel]

The issue would be having to sell off that $750 Eater of Worlds plush.

Otherwise, where would you get the budget?

[polar tide]

it's really hard for me to picture an ingame scenario where voice acting in calamity wouldnt feel jarring at best and corny at worst

[earnest jewel]

"I... am Yharim!"

[tropic jolt]

l-l-l-lava!

[strong isle]

Consider: Chris Pratt as Calamitas

[polar tide]

consider: you bursting into flame

[earnest jewel]

Dwayne 'The Rock' Johnson was born to play Slime God.

[strong isle]

Sounds cool as fuck

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1375499995490287768/1486392534077800668/inside-fire.gif

[polar tide]

tonight we dine on Roast Stip

[tropic jolt]

crabulon needs voice acting

[earnest jewel]

"I'm Slime 'The Rock' God, but you can call me... Dwayne."

[strong isle]

Dwayne Johnson is also called "The Rock"?

[blazing field]

Burning the... Illmerans

Please read on the same tone as "Stomping on... koopas"

[tropic jolt]

🔥✍️

[earnest jewel]

"Of course I want your lattes Draedon, I LOVE THE WAY YOU MAKE THEM!"

[strong isle]

One day we'll get to working on Sky stuff and then I'll voice-act Vetrasyl dialogue but google-translated

[tropic jolt]

"the dragon aerie should be just up ahead, you know what to do"

[earnest jewel]

"Yharim's right behind me, isn't he?"

[tropic jolt]

"yharims got the auric bars and you know what that means"

"yeah, trouble"

[strong isle]

For the meanwhile I'll have to be satisfied with just roleplaying as the new character when my birthday comes around

[polar tide]

https://tenor.com/view/jack-tanamen-gecky-incorporeal-gif-21102682

[strong isle]

I can have hope ok :c

[boreal edge]

I believe

[strong isle]

But at least this update should be pretty cool

Ilmeris was never my forte, though I still really enjoyed working on it

[earnest jewel]

Of course, this update, the next update, the update that's coming next. That update.

[dull heart]

The one with the thing

[blazing field]

The update, with content on it

[dull heart]

that's debatable

[tropic jolt]

the update with the hog

[earnest jewel]

That was in 2019.

[solar hare]

hog rider 2026

[boreal edge]

The update that is @blazing field's fault

[solar hare]

i have the dev role im not even back in dev yet 🔥

[strong isle]

I am an ideasguy and I'm not even ideasguying rn 🔥

I'm stuck studying pediatric and obstetric anamnesis

[dull heart]

I am doze and I'm not even dozing

[solar hare]

horsing around

[boreal edge]

doze who zoze

[strong isle]

https://tenor.com/view/writing-too-fire-fire-writing-writing-fire-friendcord-gif-7801118907023267493

[solar hare]

shark who sharks

[boreal edge]

erm

Is that legal

[tropic jolt]

some sort of dozer

🙂‍↕️

like a bulldozer

[dusty tinsel]

Too many devs in chat I have to obliterate the chat sorry everyone

[polar tide]

orange em boys

[solar hare]

on it boss

massacre them all

[earnest jewel]

Jokes being made here you really don't want out of context.

[lyric trellis]

Getting hacked again

[tropic jolt]

I will be placing yharon into this chat

[solar hare]

its his name ‼️

[lyric trellis]

done massacre

[barren nacelle]

WOAGH new dev?

[coral shuttle]

back in the 90s perhaps

[obtuse hawk]

wdym new dev

[solar hare]

shut up man

[polar tide]

welcome to the team "done 22"

[coral shuttle]

that was djrected at me btw

[solar hare]

yes sorry

[obtuse hawk]

squid emote

[tropic jolt]

this cannot be a good omen

[barren nacelle]

Doney Two

[solar hare]

thanks!!!!!

[obtuse hawk]

dude will squidward be in the next major update...

please bro let me have this...

[solar hare]

yes hes the hog rider

[barren nacelle]

Cartoonish omen

Done can I be a dev

[coral shuttle]

theres no hogs in the ocean how will he be the hog rider

[solar hare]

sure

[earnest jewel]

Squidward never gives up, that's how. He's an inspiration.

[polar tide]

my dev item is squidward

[barren nacelle]

Sending this to Alex and Tofu

[obtuse hawk]

YEAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[coral shuttle]

number one characteristic of squidward is giving up i think somethings up here

[obtuse hawk]

carny automatically best dev

[solar hare]

Alex is here

[barren nacelle]

I know lmao

[obtuse hawk]

squidward agreement of '26

[barren nacelle]

Hi Alex

[solar hare]

bye Alex

[earnest jewel]

He wakes up every morning and goes to work, even though he finds his neighbour and coworker irksome. That's dedication.

[solar hare]

well he can be a fish out of water

[coral shuttle]

is an octopus a fish even

isnt it a cephalopod

did you squid react yourseld done

[solar hare]

you're so fucking annoying

[coral shuttle]

thats low

[agile latch]

There is no hog next update

Not even a swine

[solar hare]

I just responded to your bojack reference that was all

[tropic jolt]

😭

[coral shuttle]

oh yeah that was also a reference i did not clock that

my bad! 2 am* moment

[earnest jewel]

Of course... the next update is Bovine Overhaul!

[solar hare]

3

[coral shuttle]

thats what the ASTERISK is for

[solar hare]

easy to say in retrospect

that (edited) says otherwise

[coral shuttle]

it was put there with PURPOSE and INTENT

WHAT (edited)

[solar hare]

under there

[coral shuttle]

im not falling for that.

[solar hare]

[tropic jolt]

bountiful harvest 2

[agile latch]

The new cow and chicken critter

So you can make a farm

With the foul fowl enemy

[lyric trellis]

Calamity is now Farm Merge Valley

[hushed hazel]

which roles did you have

[earnest jewel]

Heinous Hens...

[arctic cliff]

my bs sensors are going haywire

[earnest jewel]

Rancid Roosters...

[arctic cliff]

holy fucking siht

[tropic jolt]

true brain of amidias

[arctic cliff]

1.4.5 added an enemy and i didnt even know it existed

because my short-lived playthrough didnt get past skeletron

[agile latch]

True

One day the heinous hen and the foul fowl will be real

Evil cockatrice enemy

[solar hare]

dev and cd but cd is kinda useless so whatever

thanks goat

[hushed hazel]

dw goat i got you

[arctic cliff]

this guy could be huge for calamity lore

[solar hare]

wow

[earnest jewel]

A dead nerd.

[fathom girder]

yeah he should be the only enemy in the forbidden library subbiome and CV should be reworked to use this guy's AI

[lyric vortex]

Latest state of the game indicates changes for gem staves, hopefully mage finally gets a glow up early game

[vivid hemlock]

maybe one day relogic will improve the enemies...

[dull heart]

L take

[thorn pier]

W take

[fathom girder]

ending it all

[fathom girder]

beginning it all

[thorn pier]

🔥🔥🔥

[hushed monolith]

When next update

[deft lily]

right now

[earnest jewel]

When it comes out.

[hushed monolith]

Nuh uh

[earnest jewel]

The hell do you mean 'nuh uh'!?

[hushed monolith]

I expect sunken sea part 2 to release tomorrow and yharim next week

[rare tinsel]

your expectations are about to be ruined sadly

SSOp2 comes right now and yharim will be at your house in 10-20 minutes

[hushed monolith]

Yay!

[lyric vortex]

Nailhead:
Rock Golem:

[earnest jewel]

Relogic... add Biome Mimics... to every biome...

[polar tide]

purity mimic

[lyric vortex]

If they do hopefully they'd have other drops as the sort of hook drop most biome mimics have

[dry whale]

I will throw hands against him

what is he gonna do huh

[hoary dove]

did lih say yharim?

i think THE LORDE might be more accurate

.... wait. prikki-ti?

oh crap run before he kills us all-

[dense sundial]

i take little issue with most enemies except for like uhh

well they're all hardmode events

pirates, martians, pillars

Icy Merman specifically is horrible too

[tropic jolt]

terraria is known for its immaculate enemy design

[lyric vortex]

Idk if this was a thing as big as I remember but remember when people sort of made a joke of FighterAI?

[hasty tangle]

i was literally about to make a joke about fighter AI and then i saw your message

[severe coral]

Fuuuck dude how do I determine which of these is the best 🤔

Cal makes the accessory modifiers all wonky, too, so idfk which modifier to go with

[dull heart]

what does stat meter say with none of them on

[severe coral]

DPS?

[dull heart]

for damage % and crit %

no

[severe coral]

a

[dull heart]

the item in the tinkerer shop

or even what's the weapon in question so i can calculate the dmg% from it's base dmg

bc the crit is 58% without any of those

right?

wait no that doesn't add up

[severe coral]

I put some modifiers on them

Everything is Angry except for the emblem which is menacing

mb

40% dmg 32% crit with none

[dull heart]

either

• deadshot if you ammo swap with Hyperius
• sniper scope if you use Lucky for offensive reforges
• Recon Sope otherwise

i'd say

[severe coral]

I was thinkin of gettin recon

[dull heart]

your dmg and crit are so close that damage and crit % are equally valuable

EXCEPT when using sniper scope

due to crit dmg

[severe coral]

Yeah

Would it be worth to use Eye of The Golem 🤔 to stack crit damage modifiers? Probs not?

[dull heart]

unsure tbh but it's not a terrible option

probably not better than recon except at very high crit chance

but if you add the weapon's crit chance to it...

your weapon has like 25% crit

[severe coral]

Ok so for the sniper scope...

[dull heart]

so i'd say sniper scope is the move

[severe coral]

Crit damage...

Does that mean crits deal 215% or 230% damage?

I feel like Cal starting to alter crit damage would've brought this convo up before 🤔

[dull heart]

215

so it's like a 7.5% DPS increase with 100% crit chance

[severe coral]

eww

But also wtf is my Sniper Rifle damage

363 base damage + 27 (Venom Bullet) landed a 906

[hasty tangle]

its still effectively multiplicitive

[severe coral]

390*2 = 780

[hasty tangle]

since theres so little stuff that buffs crit damage

[severe coral]

Wait 906 is within bounds

[severe coral]

Yeah but that's half an avenger emblem which...

FUCK

Because diminishing returns puts damage and crit and crit damage literally neck and neck

[hasty tangle]

avenger emblem

[severe coral]

ranger mb

worst one of the bunch

[hard copper]

Emblem is 15% additive damage, eye of the golem is x1.075 damage right?

If you have 100% crit

[hasty tangle]

if you dont have any other + crit damage and 100% crit, then yes

[severe coral]

Sniper Scope's crit damage surpasses Ranger Emblem at 200% ranged damage, but sniper starts with crit

[hasty tangle]

although the fact that it only applies on a crit does hold back crit damage as a stat in general

[hard copper]

It’s also 10% crit chance to help you get to that 100% chance

[severe coral]

Recon is 10 on both so 1.21x with no other accessories I think

I should def get recon brb gonna skin mimics alive

Hmm but another question is Lucky, Angry, Precise, Menacing, or something else entirely?

[thorn pier]

lucky till 100% then menacing i guess

[severe coral]

mmmyes

The classic

[thorn pier]

if u reach 98% crit then angry is there to save the day

[severe coral]

Cuz lucky grants actual luck which has a chance to reroll damage AND crit which means it's prob hands down the best, and armour pen ain't that good

[hollow harness]

wasn't Luck damage variance removed in cal

[severe coral]

whaaat

NOOOOO

lameeeee

[stuck kite]

first person ever to be upset over not having to maximise luck as a part of damage meta

[tropic jolt]

😭

[severe coral]

Duuude I love luck

RoR has permanently altered every neuron in my brain

[rough vine]

bro mains commando

[dusty tinsel]

I curse you with bad luck for all of eternity

[knotty siren]

I think luck can be cool

Def just depends on how it’s utilized

[severe coral]

I like how drops and damage are affected, kind of a bummer how Cal removes the latter, though

[knotty siren]

I don’t like rng drops from bosses

Makes it more annoying to have to grind it over and over

The most I wanna fight the same boss after first kill is 3 times after that it becomes annoying

[tired adder]

that's exactly why journey requires 3 boss treasure bags to be researched

[wise bolt]

[prisma cipher]

Low intelligence conversation

[arctic cliff]

very cute

however, WHY WOJNT ALLUIRING BAIT SHOW UP

finally...

[hushed crown]

The humble trophy

[wise bolt]

you can be our scope creeper

[stuck kite]

blows up

[solar hare]

never

our scope is way too creepy

[hushed hazel]

Me when I see the scope: EEYIKES!!!

This is almost as scary as when I spent five evenings at Frederick’s !!!!!

[modern grove]

Nudibranch aquascug propaganda

This will be aquatic scourge in never because everyone hates it

[hot pebble]

Next update will be Benji Update

[hard hearth]

😨

[vagrant wind]

this will be aquatic scourge in 2016

[cunning sequoia]

modding you into frickbear's 3 as we speak

[modern grove]

Perhaps I can try this design direction again and remake the worm

[polar tide]

speak for yourself this is literally what i kept thinking of

[amber egret]

not exactly a fan of the tongue but i do like the unique face

[polar tide]

the tongue is the best part

[amber egret]

idk i just dont like how it juts

[rotund venture]

That AS is not lizard enough sorry

[amber egret]

if it had more of like

a center of its face

alternatively, sea bunny creature

[polar tide]

are you familiar with ribbon worms. thats literally just what it looks like

warning weird creepy gross worm

[amber egret]

yeah but this isnt ribbony

[cunning sequoia]

aughhh why did i click i knew what i was gonna see and i did it anyway

[modern grove]

They're kinda like slime mold if you think about it

[cunning sequoia]

ribbon worms are my nightmares

[amber egret]

THIS is ribbony

[still bluff]

tofu worm

[amber egret]

this is kinda Dragonish

[polar tide]

im gonna be real i woke up legit like 5 minutes ago and im way too tired to try and understand what you're saying sorry

[amber egret]

okay so like

ribbon worms are flat

this as redesign feels full

it is not squashed flat enough

[modern grove]

It's not exactly ribbon worm nor nudibranch, it's a fictional creature inspired by those

[amber egret]

yuh and i can appreciate it based on that

i just see full creature and expect a more centerbased mouth rather than on near its bottom middle

[modern grove]

Sure that's probably fair

While I probably would be able to do this design better nowadays I don't want to do that

[amber egret]

i do really like its lower parts chemically reacting with the water to glow

[modern grove]

Designing DS with this idea could be fun though.... I imagined it as you'd find big wet cocoon in the middle of the desert, or perhaps in some underground cavern? And inside would be hebrinating DS. And you can break the cocoon to start the fight, but since DS is not built for that environment it would be very aggressive and desperate and probably it won't survive for long, the longer you fight it the drier it becomes. Maybe the cavern its found it could have a small lake and it goes there to heal itself a bit, dunno

[polar tide]

throudon are you on fables dev or am i crazy

i dotn remmeber

[modern grove]

No I'm lmao I'm not goated enough

[polar tide]

ok idk where the fuck i got that idea

[solemn crest]

Worm

[deft lily]

did someone say... worm?

🪱

[hushed hazel]

No

The word “worm” has not been uttered a single time in this server before now

[late eagle]

because he's perfect for the role

Your brain instantly decided throudon must become a fables dev

[twin bloom]

[late eagle]

Throudon I will wait for the discord of your mod dw I'm patient this is not a treat

I will collect potential projects like infinity stones

Endless terraria copium

[modern grove]

No dude fables devs are simply built different

[late eagle]

At least for me you're one of the best artists in the terraria community man YOU🫵 are built different

[deft lily]

bros been living under a rock

[dusk bronze]

like

like a

a wrom

[deft lily]

‼️

[limpid oracle]

why did the devs decide to nerf every fun item, rework 2 bosses and call it a year

[vivid hemlock]

??

[modern grove]

They hate you personally and want you to suffer

[lapis oak]

NOOO I JUST WATCHED THE NEW SPIRIT TRAILER

[limpid oracle]

bladecrest oathsword did not need a nerf

[lapis oak]

WHY THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM 😭

[modern grove]

It was in the room from the start

[vivid hemlock]

xerno smth smth

[dusk bronze]

i can already tell you know literally nothing about brainstorm's development

read da newsletters

[limpid oracle]

like i hop on and every item is made worse

what happened to the post scal weapons bro

[hot knot]

that’s essentially exactly what it’s about though

[dusk bronze]

all of them are unchanged except earth, triactis and nanoblack

[pseudo vector]

there was a massive rebalance across the board

[mystic eagle]

That's post SCal and Exos

Also most of post SCal is barely changed too, if not buffed

[limpid oracle]

yeah but they shouldnt be rebalancing bruh like it should just be more content

[dusk bronze]

yeah they're almost definitely referring to shadowspec

[dusk bronze]

????????????????????

😭 😭 😭

[mystic eagle]

There's enough content but there was not a lot of substantial stuff prior to 2.1

[limpid oracle]

i am

[pseudo vector]

we would much rather refine what we have than potentially bloat the mod any more

[deft lily]

I love calamity mod

[hot knot]

in the past it was all content few balances, brainstorm kinda compensates for that

[mystic eagle]

"potentially bloat the mod"

[daring zenith]

Please god give us the Yharon resprite we beg of you

[hot knot]

^^^

[mystic eagle]

Can't happen if it's already there

[daring zenith]

🙏

[polar tide]

bait or lobotomized, call it

[dusk bronze]

calamity is the largest content mod for terraria. it doesn't. it doesn't need more

[limpid oracle]

its just kinda annoying when theres a weapon i like such as oathsword and u just rip it apart and make it like worse thats my opinion

[pseudo vector]

there's so much across the board that got reworked so like
take some time to experience the reworks

[daring zenith]

I can think of one thing it needs

[dusk bronze]

if you want the most earth shittingly gigantic game to ever exist go play baldurs gate 3

[hot knot]

yes yes we want shitfuck glorp god fight three instead of actually bearable ex* mechs

[daring zenith]

Yharim

[mystic eagle]

If you want your weapons to be stronger, use them on lower difficulties

Nothing is prohibiting you to

[pseudo vector]

https://giphy.com/gifs/pig-fat-kenjikungifs-fSD3yT23GL0SPqEIqF

[mystic eagle]

Okay maybe some stuff

[limpid oracle]

kinda unbalanced when all shadowspec gear is nerfed and ur playing infernum wotg

[deft lily]

other than their ego

[vagrant wind]

-# 🐖

[dusk bronze]

1: it's not even bad
2: use a different weapon for once please

[mystic eagle]

What does that have to do with Calamity's development

[vagrant wind]

what does infernum wotg have to do with this

[mystic eagle]

Oh wait I know

[vagrant wind]

[dusk bronze]

calamity's not balanced around addons 😭

[mystic eagle]

Nothing!

[daring zenith]

If we can get both the Yharon resprite and the addition of Yharim in the next ten years I think we win

[rotund venture]

new oathsword and its line is incredible what????

[daring zenith]

And I can die happy

[hard hearth]

new oathsword compared to old one is snrrrrrrrk mimimimimimi

[pseudo vector]

sorry for not balancing around addons i guess
its almost like it works the other way around

[mystic eagle]

Ein ragebait

[dusk bronze]

people hate that you have to think slightly and it's not just homing bullshit spam

[pseudo vector]

they balance around what we do dawg

[daring zenith]

he’s the main antagonist please add him

[deft lily]

grr I hate calamity mod

%===

[mystic eagle]

Devil's Devastation is one of the coolest weapons in the mod

[dusk bronze]

THEY'RE GONNA

[daring zenith]

WHEN

[polar tide]

no we're not

[deft lily]

nope

no yharim

[mystic eagle]

Future

[daring zenith]

[deft lily]

cancelled

[polar tide]

yharim is never being added to the mod because we don't like you

[hot knot]

eventually

[dusk bronze]

wait true

[vivid hemlock]

😪

[daring zenith]

it’s been ten years

[rotund venture]

brainstorm is actually the bests update in the mod's lifetime like

[vivid hemlock]

yharim this, yharim that

[pseudo vector]

we're never gonna add yharim because WE HATE OUR FANS!!!

[rotund venture]

how can anyone think otherwise is insane to me

[deft lily]

Say that again

[daring zenith]

I knew it. You heard it here first

[vagrant wind]

that again

[pseudo vector]

https://giphy.com/gifs/pig-fat-kenjikungifs-fSD3yT23GL0SPqEIqF

[dusk bronze]

and guess who was in charge for 9 of those years?

john terrible game design and management

[deft lily]

must... not...horrible hog post...

[daring zenith]

In all seriousness I love this mod take all the time you guys need

[mystic eagle]

9 years, 9 months, 3 weeks and 5 days*

[pseudo vector]

there's so much more outside of funny tyrant man that we'll be doing so like

[vivid hemlock]

if theres one thing thats not a priority its adding yharim because have you seen the rest of the mod?? theres no way hes getting added with the shit thats in calamity as it is rn

[polar tide]

everytime you bring up yharim we actually purposefully push back dragon aerie development by another 3 years

[deft lily]

^

[vagrant wind]

yharim yharim yharim yharim

[daring zenith]

Checks out

[mystic eagle]

Yharim Yharim Yharim Yharim Yharim Yharim Yharim Yharim Yharim Yharim Yharim Yharim Yharim Yharim Yharim Yharim Yharim Yharim Yharim Yharim Yharim Yharim Yharim Yharim Yharim Yharim Yharim Yharim

[rotund venture]

Yharim might be one the things I'm LEAST excited for ngl

[daring zenith]

NO

[dusk bronze]

something something mod pumped full of tmod hitler's shit

[deft lily]

Where yharim

[rotund venture]

like so much other stuff is wayyy more iteresting

[daring zenith]

[deft lily]

why yharim

[hushed hazel]

Every time you mention Yharim they throw raw eggs at one of the devs

[deft lily]

how yharim

[daring zenith]

I want to see the aerie honestly

[deft lily]

Yharimyharimyharim

[hot knot]

do see a lotta stuff being mere rebalances but the mod funnily enough is in desperate need of such
rather have the mod be good than bad but completed

[daring zenith]

It’s such a pivotal part of the lore but we know nothing about it I can’t wait to see it eventually

[rotund venture]

distortion, arsenal reworks and armor, ravager rework, exos rework, I could go on and on

[polar tide]

yharim si my favorite character in the mod i cant even act like im not super excited to see him real one day

[rotund venture]

I'm not saying I'm not excited for Yharim one day

[deft lily]

I do not care for yharim being added.
it insists upon itself.

[daring zenith]

Devs tide us over for another few years give us a single word about the aerie

[rotund venture]

but there's way more interesting stuff on the horizon

[dusk bronze]

i mean that's kinda the point

nobody knows anything about it

[hard hearth]

outclassed by orderbringer methinks 😁

[dusk bronze]

not even draedon

[polar tide]

everythgin is outclased by orderbringer

[pseudo vector]

we're nowhere near the point where we can even consider anything regarding the aerie

[daring zenith]

I know, that’s why I’m excited

[hard hearth]

[mystic eagle]

Slick Cane:

[pseudo vector]

like it won't be crossing our minds development wise for a very long time

[polar tide]

we can do visual design and nothing else

[daring zenith]

Fair enough

[hard hearth]

idk its like

[polar tide]

well

[pseudo vector]

we have so much work to before then

[polar tide]

visual concepting

[hard hearth]

i gave devil's devastation a try and i didn't vibe with it that much

[daring zenith]

I wonder what’s next for the mod, the boss roster is pretty filled lore wise

[mystic eagle]

Slick Cane in GFB should have no money boost cap in general

[pseudo vector]

making the bosses better

[dusk bronze]

will we know anything about what it looks like before the yharim update

[deft lily]

de-f*bing everything

[daring zenith]

[pseudo vector]

fleshing out the content that feels lacking

[rotund venture]

making everything better*

[pseudo vector]

just overall improvements across the board

[dusk bronze]

lore is good

lore implementation is 🥀 🥀 🥀 🥀 🥀

[polar tide]

literally no idea it's way too early to say definitively yes or no

it's been talked about in patreon server before

[dusk bronze]

understandable

[daring zenith]

Hey I quite like the lore implementation

[polar tide]

but as far as actually showing concepts

i'd err on the side of No

[hard hearth]

l*re

[deft lily]

anyways have a look at this rat

[daring zenith]

Very big and round

[rotund venture]

CHUMBY

[hard hearth]

3/10 not very tasty

[deft lily]

[daring zenith]

Excellent for baseball practice

Oh, actually I’ve been meaning to ask

How to patron items exist

I don’t see a tier on Patreon for it

Is that an old thing

[vivid hemlock]

discontinued

[hard hearth]

yea old thing

[daring zenith]

Tragic

[pseudo vector]

discontinued years ago

[vivid hemlock]

patron items are demonic in nature tho so

[daring zenith]

A lot of the most enjoyable weapons are the Patreon ones imo

[rotund venture]

name one good patreon item

[pseudo vector]

backlog still exists to this day and we're gradually chipping away at it

[daring zenith]

Though I do get the whole

Bloat item thing

[deft lily]

I think i should get added to the mod.

[vivid hemlock]

imagine having items that people paid for that usually suck ass and you cant change it because they paid so now you permanently have these things in your mod

[hard hearth]

me when its gonna exist at the very least until yermes gets added

😊

[daring zenith]

[hard hearth]

i did a poor lapse in judgement thinking it was only gonna take a cuppa years until yharim was gonna get added when i paid for mine

oops!

decade take it or leave it

[daring zenith]

How much did it cost

[rotund venture]

I would actually pay money to see like half the patreon items removed

[daring zenith]

Back in the day

[hard hearth]

i think initially it was 20, then it got raised to 50, then discontinued

[pseudo vector]

unfortunately there was a horse shaped problem until about 10 months ago

[dusk bronze]

[hard hearth]

why's that

[daring zenith]

Only 50?????