just monkey darts
#calamity-update-talk
dull heart
dull heart
and then we've gotten more/better ones through Glaive and BStar
tired adder
rogue glaive is from bloons?
tired adder
never thought of that
dull heart
rogue glaive is from bloons?
well it's sure not a real glaive
agile latch
Just now i noticed
I forgot to make a actual sprite for arsenal cooldown
So it still uses xyk placeholder
dull heart
oop
pulsar cobalt
damn
solemn crest
Doze can you make a weapon called real glaive and it’s a real glaive?
hollow root
well it's sure not a real glaive
which is why it must come from Bloons lol
agile latch
Well its a thing to remember for next bounty meeting
pulsar cobalt
even the devs dont notice that cd rack sprites are placeholders
almost like people dont notice that they are
hollow root
which is why it must come from Bloons lol
iconic misuse of a weapon name
dull heart
go my bloon glaive
agile latch
The star
solemn crest
Mmmm, monkey
dull heart
but like 100% of the functionality now is just directly bloons
hollow root
go my bloon glaive
someone should edit that pic of eminem but make him throwing a glaive
strange cargo
Go my glaive master(?)
dull heart
spam is Glaive Ricochet, stealth is Glaive Lord including the same first target shred effect
hollow root
or just various Rogue weapons actually
hollow root
anybody know where i can find a transparent image of calamity item sprites?
dull heart
see the little white shred marks
hollow root
see the little white shred marks
that means bro has the feather crown equipped
dull heart
no it means bro has an infinite stealth strike exploit
tired adder
does it break scal too?
earnest jewel
Wulfrum Glaive Thrower.
strange cargo
maybe wulfrum is highly advanced monkeys from Bloons
dull heart
john wulfbloontoniumrum
tired adder
although wulfrum enemies are super early game
strange cargo
like Etienne
dull heart
draedon is etienne confirmed
tired adder
so either monkeys had to degrade in order to become sentient metal
fierce hearth
We should get the dartling gun as a HM evil dart weapon upgrade :)
tired adder
or monkeys in calverse haven't developed modern technology (thanks draedon)
strange cargo
prove that yharim isn't quincy
quincy cant break a table
fierce hearth
Quincy can't even aim
tired adder
We should get the dartling gun as a HM evil dart weapon upgrade :)
bring back charged dart blaster except without a charge
dull heart
nothing gets past his bow
fierce hearth
Bro 1 pink does
tired adder
nothing gets past his bow
like cute bow?
strange cargo
I'd argue the monkeys arent using their full power with wulfrum because they're fighting against bloons, not terrarians
fierce hearth
I mostly play with ETN because I love gleep glorps and the range boosts are nice
hollow root
okay i made it
earnest jewel
prove that yharim isn't quincy
His father isn't Quincy.
hollow root
not with the glaive
strange cargo
I play modded, mostly
tired adder
I'd argue the monkeys arent using their full power with wulfrum because they're ...
you can also argue that draedon hoards all war crime arsenal to himself and his codebreaker
so monkeys can't get good equipment in calamity
hasty tangle
is there an updated mage guide yet?
nope
those take time
the testers are working on it though
tropic jolt
so monkeys can't get good equipment in calamity
the only thing they need is bananas
hasty tangle
and the first few tiers of the class setups page are updated afaik
tropic jolt
once they figure out how to farm them its over
near relic
do you know any spreadsheet or something that people are working on rn?
near relic
thanks!
wide raven
Wait did they get rid of the charge mechanics of the weapons used the power the system
hasty tangle
yes
wide raven
Oh nice. Did they just think it was a unnecessary nerf to a pretty weak weapon line
hasty tangle
idk what the exact reason was, but i personally just found that it made them annoying without any real benefit
like, why go through all the effort to make and then continuously charge a weapon when you can just use something else
late eagle
Omg only now dawned on me that the person who made Voidseeker Leegrid is a Calamity dev now
Distortion will be so peak man what a W
polar tide
my leegrid son
tropic jolt
whats voidseeker leegrid
what...
late eagle
Does he know
tropic jolt
arctic cliff
HE (me) DOESN'T KNOW!
tropic jolt
thats leegrid
arctic cliff
oh
late eagle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHZGSmGLAGg
What are you doing man that was the best opportunity to vaguepost
deft lily
my leegrid son
leegrid son...
late eagle
Dummy
late eagle
my leegrid son
Will you dip it in cosmilite again
tribal isle
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10bgBHu7apfftITBOQVJrtYCiakZVGC4reJcvfJqM...
thank you
polar tide
Will you dip it in cosmilite again
i always do
late eagle
i always do
Horrible fate
solemn crest
Horrible you say…
strange cargo
horrible...
pearl sentinel
i always do
What is leegrid im not in the know
Ive got the coal hat I need the context hat
polar tide
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHZGSmGLAGg
^leegrid is this
dusk bronze
^leegrid is this
carny could you try to get ahold of tyrant pls, he hasn't read my dms in a week
dusk bronze
oh 
dusty tinsel
Who?
tropic jolt
dusk bronze
tribal isle
Tomo
arctic cliff
guy who made the pumpkin moon theme and owns the introductory doc
wait WHAT
tribal isle
Tomorrow is another day
5️⃣
hidden abyss
I love the Luxors gift update
thorn pier
no
hidden abyss
I've heard it's cool but not good
I mean the only issue id have is that with summoner the summon isnt permanent anymkte
pulsar cobalt
dont put an f in front of artist worst mistake of my life
polar tide
its joke
its me being silly and dumb
i do not think "concept fartist" is a real occupation that anyone has
dull heart
except you of course
polar tide
except me of course
frail owl
hi there doze
stray valve
i do not think "concept fartist" is a real occupation that anyone has
Is being a concept fartist fun? :D
I mean, you’re the only one w experience
polar tide
its awesome
lapis oak
good morring everynyan
dull heart
Hi
lapis oak
eating breakfast right now it's very yummers
vagrant wind
just say you hate vegetables no need to lie
fierce hearth
Hi kiri i just had an excessive amount of italian food and chianti
lapis oak
Hi kiri i just had an excessive amount of italian food and chianti
give me all that italian food now
or you will pay a big price 👁️
fierce hearth
I paid nothing because people who are employed covered me
Jobless life
What do you want we have uhh
fierce hearth
Shrimp scampi, baked ziti, eggplant parm, chicken marsala and tiramisu
lapis oak
vas...
lapis oak
it means "what" in German
lapis oak
not written that way I think it's like was but I'm typing vas because it spelt closely like that
fierce hearth
🦐
lapis oak
give me all of it
vivid hemlock
kirichud
fierce hearth
Gives kiri yummy shrimp scampi
lean relic
🦐
vagrant wind
tropic jolt
🪷
vagrant wind
<:ozzatron:1455887229045178388>🪷
is this for me
agile panther
wow! i have the same posture as him!
hardy gulch
what would an otherworldly calamity soundtrack look like
dusk bronze
fables 
vagrant wind
it replicates the feeling of vanilla ost very well
deft lily
i think so as well yeah
i kinda wish more terraria mod OSTs would take risks and experiment more instead of just trying to be like the calamity OST
vagrant wind
calamity bells.mp3
tired adder
calamity "style" gets more views and bitches
deft lily
which doesn't even happen with most fanmade cal tracks tbh
bare maximum is like 5k views
there are a few exceptions but otherwise thats most of the ones ive seen tbh lol
deft lily
kitty
tired adder
calamity bells.mp3
one thing I discovered over last year is that most people are using the bells wrong or something
deft lily
probably
i hate to say the quiet part out loud but most "fan cal tracks" are made with hopes of getting millions of views
and when that doesn't happen they never try harder or have the motivation to try different things
tired adder
one thing I discovered over last year is that most people are using the bells wr...
like if the boss is not on yharim's hate list, then bells are inappropriate
or something like that
teal bone
I've heard it's cool but not good
To my knowledge it was amazing before and now its worse yet still above average (and it looks much much cooler)
tropic jolt
I think the bells are just meant for post moon lord bosses in calamity but idk
deft lily
I think the bells are just meant for post moon lord bosses in calamity but idk
its suppost to be that way iirc but uhh
kid named raw unfiltered calamity
and tale of a cruel world
tropic jolt
clearly this means calclone should be swapped with yharon
deft lily
i agree!
tropic jolt
and tale of a cruel world
well thats the title theme so its special
deft lily
my point was that chronologically its before post moon lord so technically it breaks that rule
lyric trellis
To my knowledge it was amazing before and now its worse yet still above average ...
I should test it since I haven’t seen much from it at all yet
tropic jolt
yeah
tired adder
its suppost to be that way iirc but uhh
kid named raw unfiltered calamity
well, calclone is special, since it has interlude
so it is important to the story of album
deft lily
well, calclone is special, since it has interlude
what
tired adder
after it
deft lily
but anyways
the music scene around tmod would be like 60% better if people were just them fucking selves and didn't leech off of dokuro's music composing style
that is a hill i am more than willing to die on ‼️
tired adder
or tried to listen to more than just calamity
from him
although pre-cal is kinda encapsulated in unholy insurgency
and scourge of universe
tired adder
yes, yes
but just saying that their (fancomposers) exposure is often limited by supericonic bosses
like SCal, Provi, Yharon or DoG
deft lily
well, thats their fault atp
tropic jolt
I like the music from spirit reforged
deft lily
if they wanna make a good track that people like then they need to do their own thing
and often that means taking inspiration from something outside of cal or even tmod
hoary merlin
what news?
tired adder
like SCal, Provi, Yharon or DoG
wait... those are all post-ML
tropic jolt
its demon spider mode
tired adder
its demon spider mode
but the only spider is Infernum Polterghast
deft lily
must... not... hate rant... about.. infernum...
tired adder
demonic spider mode was intended to be enabled in beginning, like death
deft lily
🥹
tropic jolt
what if thanatos was a spider
tired adder
demonic spider mode was intended to be enabled in beginning, like death
that sounds so stupid out of context
deft lily
what if slime god was a spider
tropic jolt
what if perforators were a spider
deft lily
those who know
tropic jolt
the knower
hoary merlin
what if thanatos was a spider
I think scorpion is suit him
hey why is everyone talking about spider here?
what is up with it?
deft lily
ares would be a fucking bird or some shit idk
the eyes would be bees for 30 years
thanatos would be a spider
tropic jolt
spiders are cool
hoary merlin
how about another worm
tired adder
hey why is everyone talking about spider here?
it's my iconic suggestion, demonic spider mode
hoary merlin
it's my iconic suggestion, demonic spider mode
on who?
tired adder
iban almost implemented it in basecal but government shut it down
tropic jolt
yharim should be a worm boss
tired adder
iban almost implemented it in basecal but government shut it down
legends say that there was a description different from "Demonic!" on difficulty rack
hoary merlin
ahhhhh I see
my bad
but was the spider is necessary?
how about just the 'demonic'
tired adder
tired adder
how about just the 'demonic'
it's a reference to trope in video gaming, describing most annoying or irritating enemies to fight
hoary merlin
yeah I can imagine the vision
alright the turtle one shot you is really unnecessary
tropic jolt
🐢
hoary merlin
if it just break half or 70% of your armor defend is quite better than one shot a player
what the hell is a cosmic venom
hoary merlin
how about the ancient decease instead
it a moth
it doesn't have poison
wait am I tripping?
isn't the paladin already given your a broken armor
hoary merlin
I don
I do see that the astral biome is now always guarantee spawn next to the dungeon
tired adder
it wasn't before?
hoary merlin
was it just my luck is bad or it a feature now
I usually found the astral biome was spawn at the snow biome after entered hardmode
but now I have played for two classes run now
and the chance was the same
cobalt wharf
it’s on the dungeon side of the world not next to the dungeon specifically
hoary merlin
they spawn next to the dungeon
cobalt wharf
which includes the snow
hoary merlin
it’s on the dungeon side of the world not next to the dungeon specifically
yeah I know that
but what I have seen recently is different
I assume my luck are just bad
cobalt wharf
it has to be somewhere between the dungeon and a small bit away from spawn which is like a 50/50 for next to the dungeon or in the snow
or in large worlds can include a random desert
dusty tinsel
It's usually in the snow for me
hoary merlin
if I every see another one spawn next close to the dungeon again I will think like that
dusty tinsel
It loves the snow biome
hoary merlin
It's usually in the snow for me
yeah exactly
first run
lemme go get the second one real quick
the second one
I mean if they actually make this as the mod feature now it also nice too
I can make the arena to fight three boss in there
if I got at least to people to confirming this it would be a relief for me
vagrant wind
wow ok
vagrant wind
L bot...
dusty tinsel
L you
vagrant wind
🤺
dusty tinsel
No fencing
deft lily
kittyyyyyy
car
placid ocean
https://tenor.com/view/stan-twitter-cute-cat-kitty-love-gif-13555987311322628765
kitty
polar tide
🥹 🥹 🥹 🥹 🥹
timid flume
so
calamity as of now is like really uninterested in anything other than bosses right
is that because of fabsol
dusk bronze
calamity as of now is like really uninterested in anything other than bosses rig...
that could not be further from the truth
dusk bronze
is that because of fabsol
and fabsol has been exiled
timid flume
that could not be further from the truth
well before fabsol got kicked out at least
dusk bronze
the only boss planned is yharim
and it's been that way for at least a few years
timid flume
what about Zorm?
dusk bronze
tf is that
molten grove
yeah, zorm, doncha know
rotund venture
bait used to be bait
molten grove
amber egret
what is a marquis even
amber egret
oh my fault
boreal pewter
What if your Devils Devastation could be a bit... bigger
lyric trellis
Mod saved
lapis oak
finally
ionic folio
Anyone thirsty for a sprite teaser?
cunning sequoia
waow
dusk bronze
delicious pixels
dusk bronze
wait
is the can purple haze 💀
distant raft
i was about to ask
dusk bronze
that's fuckin hilarious
distant raft
what im pretty sure is cinnamon roll looks delicious
ionic folio
wait
is the can purple haze 💀
Yes
dusk bronze
peak
valid crypt
Anyone thirsty for a sprite teaser?
Very edible
amber egret
Anyone thirsty for a sprite teaser?
is that grape soder
dusk bronze
is that grape soder
amber egret
fuckin forgot grape beer existed its in a soda glass
proud plover
Anyone thirsty for a sprite teaser?
Yummmy!!
high scaffold
Anyone thirsty for a sprite teaser?
Alcoholism never looked prettier before
hasty hawk
Anyone thirsty for a sprite teaser?
The whiskey looks like a literal bottle of Jack Daniels
love it
Fireball also looks accurate to the bottle too
Old Fashion is a bit too bright methinks
everything is 🔥
rough vine
Anyone thirsty for a sprite teaser?
Dying of thirst
rustic kernel
Anyone thirsty for a sprite teaser?
I know what must be done.
vital axle
is there a true melee guide somewhere?
hoary merlin
is there a true melee guide somewhere?
right here
vital axle
right here
what
hoary merlin
You know it not, when someone actually replied you that fast
but I might give you some advice
vital axle
You know it not, when someone actually replied you that fast
what are you even saying
speak english
hoary merlin
speak english
Puedo ayudarte
placid ocean
⛽
hot pebble
Old Duke is not crap anymore wow
spring aspen
I've been trying to code again recently
I feel like I have to congratulate the developers on how they do their magic (an ice blade clone took me hours and these people are pulling off Devil's Devastation)
Seriously, you all are insane in the best way possible
halcyon seal
have to imagine it gets a lot easier once youre more familiar with terraria's internals
and cal's had a decade to do that
stuck kite
fabsol had a decade to do that, actually
spring aspen
and cal's had a decade to do that
Still, all that time put into practicing to get to that point is remarkable
stuck kite
most of us are like 3-4 years experience
halcyon seal
thats fair
spring aspen
Yeah
high scaffold
I have thought a bit about this, if I dont all like the new DoG and fond chases boring, why dont I make a mod that fixes it?
By "fixes it" I mean makes it an absolutely cracked fight
spring aspen
I mean either do that or wait until the sun dies to play the actual DoG rework and not a placeholder
dusk bronze
I have thought a bit about this, if I dont all like the new DoG and fond chases ...
you could do that
spring aspen
How familiar are you with C#?
dusk bronze
Only need to learn modding
high scaffold
How familiar are you with C#?
Like, I know some coding but most knowledge comes in form of understanding how computers work
Its all just math in the end
spring aspen
As someone who can't code in the slightest who has tried to mod (backread like 20 messages) yeah it's pretty difficult to get extremely simple things to work when you don't have experience, let alone coding something on par with a DoG fight with several people each with years of experience
Let alone better
Modding is still something worth getting into and it can be your ultimate goal to make something like that
But it is not great to expect putting in two months and being able to make that first try
high scaffold
Its a question of if Ill get a burning passion and not of if Ill manage to do it
frail owl
meow
spring aspen
Its a question of if Ill get a burning passion and not of if Ill manage to do it
If you want to just storm into the project after a few weeks no one can really stop you so go ahead
It's just not realistic for you to not hit a roadblock along the way that you just aren't experienced enough to solve
high scaffold
You are never going to achieve anything if you dont even try
dusk bronze
high scaffold
So if I want it I better start asap, maybe even right now
dusk bronze
that's why i'm making possibly one of the most ambitious minecraft mods ever with absolutely fucking Zero computer experience
high scaffold
Chad
And so it began, as a Paint drawing, like all things should be
Drawing attack patterns in Paint is the new meta
wise bolt
cunning sequoia
wise bolt
cunning sequoia
frail owl
astrum aureus
dusk bronze
astrum deus
frail owl
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1405614811500253306/1454181868285988980/w...
pooper
placid ocean
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1405614811500253306/1454181868285988980/w...
why astrum aureus post astrum deus
placid ocean
and astrum deus post astrum aureus
vivid hemlock
?
wise bolt
?
dusk bronze
the hog
lapis oak
why are we ?
frail owl
why are we still here?
cunning sequoia
gay
placid ocean
how
dusk bronze
look out your window
placid ocean
i did
dusk bronze
no the other one
torn kite
fathom girder
wormlamity in twenty wormteen
wise bolt
rest in pickle juice
hoary merlin
I didn't expected this kind of update 
strange cargo
Good morning clupdate
strange cargo
Put it in the lore doc
solar hare
homophobia beam
solar hare
to destroy them
strange cargo
so evil and for what
Did you hear that done had a transition yesterday
strange cargo
boreal edge
Tenebreus Tides image
late eagle
I think I speak for everyone when I say every terraria modder in the world should unite and make a smash bros game
versed heart
I think I speak for everyone when I say every terraria modder in the world shoul...
Uhhhhhh, Including people like Fabsol and Portal Mech?
late eagle
Uhhhhhh, Including people like Fabsol and Portal Mech?
Idk anything about portal mech but I don't consider the horse a terraria modder anymore
versed heart
By far the worst part of Portal Mech is probably that he's openly transphobic
late eagle
By far the worst part of Portal Mech is probably that he's openly transphobic
Well I don't know the guy at all so whatever to me
versed heart
Iirc the other one started making another mod so they would count as a modder
late eagle
I don't really care about his mods too
late eagle
Iirc the other one started making another mod so they would count as a modder
He's like a little kid trying to enter the cool guys group
versed heart
Besides this isn't really related to Calamity or its updates so uuuhhh I wonder how long it'll take for all the boss reworks are made?
strange cargo
never
versed heart
Or how many reworks there will be next update
desert garnet
Besides this isn't really related to Calamity or its updates so uuuhhh I wonder ...
Many years
versed heart
Yeah that's what I expect
What an awful question, I couldn't think of much else though
desert garnet
Or how many reworks there will be next update
We wont know
versed heart
I mean, I guess I could ask something about the next update's theme or something but that's similarly unknown
hushed hazel
the hog
versed heart
I feel like that's either not really solidified or devs wouldn't feel like sharing it if it's anything other than a variety of miscellaneous things like Brainstorm or that one Harvest update
rotund venture
devs will share the theme when they're ready to do so
I predict it will be the scrying stone update, in which the Yharim whispers (lore items) will finally be killed and replaced with a scrying stone to communicate with the Auric man
when the newsletter comes out and proves me right I will scream it from the rooftops
vivid hemlock
anything lore related would be ideal
azure oak
the stone phone update
rotund venture
mark my words that will be it
vivid hemlock
stone phone would also mean even more scrumptious ui tbh
azure oak
we will be fed more yharpaganda
pulsar cobalt
next update will be the hog update and all it will have is the hog and nothing else
azure oak
no since the lore items are getting replaced yharim's yapping wont just be restricted to boss drops
so we could probably also get new dialogue for other stuff
versed heart
devs will share the theme when they're ready to do so
Yes, of course
I don't expect them to share it before it's even decided or if there's a chance they decide to change it, or that they'll share it as soon as it's comepletely solidified
rotund venture
iirc a few devs have said it has been decided
but yeah could change
except it won't because it's scrying stone just like I said
placid ocean
next update will be the hog update and all it will have is the hog and nothing e...
the digusting hog
solar bluff
is someone here knowledgeable with wotg
plush carbon
I know it’s buggy,
earnest jewel
is someone here knowledgeable with wotg
alpine nexus
I dreamt that SSO is coming out tomorrow.
Is it true?
rotund venture
I think you're joking but in case you aren't, no
alpine nexus
I think you're joking but in case you aren't, no
I did dream about it. But yes, it was a joke 🤣
tropic jolt
sso in 2 seconds
twin juniper
Horrible
kindred night
dusk bronze
tropic jolt
hogs
dense sundial
Tomorrow is the green update
Green Needle update that reworks Eater of Worlds because it’s also bad
floral yew
purple needle update
thorn pier
green needle update that reworks aquatic scourge
vagrant wind
green needle update that removes all worms
strange cargo
vagrant wind
🐗
tropic jolt
🐗
keen zodiac
did calamity change how voodoo demons spawn or something
pulsar cobalt
returned them to their natural spawn rate iirc
keen zodiac
that sucks
ashen pivot
by the time i'm looking for voodoo dolls i either have some already or i have access to zerg potions
fierce hearth
besides if you're ever struggling you can build an underworld npc house over lava and just strip the flooring out from under the guide
jagged copper
or, by the power of Fargo's Mutant Mod, kidnap the guide and throw him in lava
rancid pagoda
get the Slagfire Douser, it's a new Calamity item
you can kill Guide with it in the Underworld and it will count as a lava death
vagrant wind
time for what
dull heart
is it time
vagrant wind
😟
deft lily
doze what are you plotting
azure oak
it's 5 past 20 so who knows cause idk what you're referring to
dull heart
is it time
deft lily
idk
azure oak
yes?
dull heart
are you sure
vagrant wind
no
deft lily
nope
vagrant wind
im tiger
dull heart
hi tiger
azure oak
pretty sure
dull heart
ok i guess it's time then
deft lily
😟
dull heart
time for me to go eat lunch bye
deft lily
oh okay bye
azure oak
bye have a good lonch
dull heart
oh and this
azure oak
neat
vagrant wind
now I can larp as cv
fierce hearth
Oh my god a viable whip alternative
I want more active summon weaps that are designed to fill the whip niche without being whips
tired adder
now I am the ceaseless casino owner!
fierce hearth
Is there anything currently in the mod that does that besides the wulfrum armor arm cannon
dull heart
Oh my god a viable whip alternative
It's not exactly an alternative, more a supplement
dull heart
Is there anything currently in the mod that does that besides the wulfrum armor ...
Virid Vanguard, Igneous Exaltation
Are true alternatives
fierce hearth
That makes sense
Oh wait does the concentration not expire if you put the weapon away?
The targeted one I mean
Actually duh of course not, weapons that aren't minions can interact with it
dull heart
Oh wait does the concentration not expire if you put the weapon away?
It does not
However, because it costs 4 slots now instead of 3
other classes need to invest into summoner gear at least a little to use it
fierce hearth
Hmmm, so as long as your summon damage exceeds a certain threshold, this is a good supplement for mixed builds bc if the concentration staff's damage is more than 15% of your damage output without it, it's a net increase
dull heart
Where did 15% come from
dull heart
It's either 15% DR (plus the orbiting dark energy damage) or the additional dark energy tag damage
fierce hearth
I thought it was "you deal 15% less damage in exchange for having a unique bonus attack" not "you take 15% less damage and get a unique attack"
Or
It's or
I see
rancid pagoda
probably should rephrase it to say damage reduction
fierce hearth
Yeah the phrasing is vague on whose damage is being reduced
rancid pagoda
always hated trying to find things that say the same thing in slightly different wording
dull heart
It's ADR
dull heart
So it's multiplicative 0.85x and not hit by scaling
dusk bronze
perhaps "attacks you take"
just say "enemy attacks"
rancid pagoda
ah okay so it is actually different
dull heart
yes
golden belfry
yo anyone know the best ranged weapons for pre hardmode
fierce hearth
You could do the MMO route and have the differential be additive things are x% DR and multiplicative things are "x% damage received"
dusk bronze
or "incoming damage is multiplied by 0.85x"
dull heart
that is too mathy
fierce hearth
It does clearly define the difference
dull heart
Will just change it to which makes incoming attacks deal 15% less damage
tired adder
that is too mathy
doesn't spiteful candle say you deal 1.07x more damage?
dull heart
spiteful candle description sucks
dusk bronze
didn't you write the alcohol tooltips? they use multiplicative numbers
dull heart
I did not
dusk bronze
hm
dull heart
Also it depends on the tooltip I think
pulsar cobalt
multiplicative numbers are usually used for multiplicative effects
sometimes its not tho (frost armour)
dusk bronze
So it's multiplicative 0.85x and not hit by scaling
multiplicative
dull heart
the thing is that there's a lot of cases where multiplicative effects are additive to other effects
In which case that kinda falls apart
dusk bronze
bruh
tired adder
can multiplicatives be "reduces damage by x%"
and additives be "x% increased damage reduction"
lapis oak
Nanoblack and Warbanner's tooltips need to be rephrased btw
they're, confusing
(Nanoblack's case the tooltip is wrong even)
dull heart
how is Nanoblack wront
tired adder
and additives be "x% increased damage reduction"
although that does mean changing vanilla descriptions...
lapis oak
how is Nanoblack wront
"Release Left Click just as the scythe begins returning to carve through the enemy closest to your cursor at light speed"
this is wrong
you don't release the Left Click
you click Left Click again
lapis oak
it works like Molten Amputator
lapis oak
sob
dull heart
actually the tooltip is right
Sort of
Lightspeed Carve is on release of the new click - if you tap to throw then tap+hold at apex, no carve
tap to throw then tap again at apex carves
It's just bugged that you can't hold to throw + release to carve properly
lapis oak
then that leave to only Warbanner then
dull heart
how is warbanner confusing
lapis oak
change the multiplier mentions in its tooltip to x instead of %
like how AFR and DSA do it
standardize them
vagrant wind
one might be able to assume "multiplies all damage based on how close you are to enemies" as damage done to you aswell
lapis oak
"Multiplies all damage based on how close you are to enemies
Maximum damage boost is 15%, minimum damage boost is -15%"
dull heart
fair
lapis oak
this certainly could be rephrased better to make the least amount of people be looking at this and think "oh %? I guess that's additive then"
pulsar cobalt
frost armour also use % instead of x
dull heart
oh and this
@fathom girder I know you were interested in this item
lapis oak
better visually?
tired adder
yes (it's not a space-y beam sword)
lapis oak
is this person talking about the old old ass Galaxia or pre 2.1 Galaxia
tired adder
old ass
lapis oak
ye ok
tired adder
(although moving it to pre-dog didn't do much to its popularity, but maybe that's just time issue?)
vagrant wind
I dont think its even viable for dog except for one attunement
and it was still bad
dusty tinsel
oh and this
Oh that's neat
vagrant wind
thorn pier
ur gonna have to forward every attunement
vagrant wind
😡
vagrant wind
ur gonna have to forward every attunement<:SAD:664300899555999754>
literally every other attunement was just
polterghast
and the times were like 2:30-2:10
thorn pier
oh damn true
lapis oak
yeah that's not very good
tired adder
what are times for terratomere and neptune's bounty?
those two are listed in above thread as galaxia's "competitors"
vagrant wind
what are times for terratomere and neptune's bounty?
tired adder
okay, so they are better and full homing
honestly
I wondered few times, if weapons like biome blade line should be the best weapons on tier, to compensate for their complexity
vagrant wind
considering galaxia is only obtainable by fighting the three optional bosses
it should be way better
lapis oak
if Neptune's Bounty and Terratomere get to be A then it's completely justified to make Galaxia S
dull heart
ehh
lapis oak
with maximum aggressiveness
dull heart
not really
both bounty and tomere are stronger than they should be anyway
especially bounty
lapis oak
yeppa
dusty tinsel
Make all of them F
dull heart
like bounty should be getting 4:00 dog round about
arctic cliff
ark and biome blades shouldnt underperform because they're pretty complex weapons
arctic cliff
yet every time i use them i feel like im doing far too little for weapons tha tlook so cool
its
thorn pier
are they even complex
arctic cliff
weirddd
lapis oak
I'd still say that aggressive Galaxia and optimal AotC usage should be above normal options at their tiers
arctic cliff
are they even complex
they're more complex than your average weapon
thorn pier
they just have different modes where u just hold m1 everytime
dull heart
biome blade really isn't complex, it's complicated
thorn pier
or is it the parry ones
tired adder
biome blade really isn't *complex*, it's *complicated*
that's a better word, yeah
dull heart
Ark is complex
thorn pier
is it the parry one
dull heart
yes
ark, when using parries, should absolutely be better than most weapons on its tier
thorn pier
isnt it just hold m1 and parry
lapis oak
no
thorn pier
then wait for cd then parry again
dull heart
isnt it just hold m1 and parry
there's also the fact it has limited range
it's more difficult to use than most other melee weapons
dull heart
until Cosmos maybe
but parrying + playing close range is harder than what other melees have to do
oh and there's also on Elements+ the snip attack
lapis oak
the optimal loop should be Parry -> M1 -> Snap -> M1 -> Snap -> Big Rip -> repeat
dull heart
for Cosmos yea
lapis oak
ye I'm talking about AotC specifically since the predecessors are not as complex
thorn pier
and galaxia is like
lapis oak
playstyle
dull heart
For Galaxia:
- Spin attunement does not need to be above average
- Yoyo attunement does not need to be above average
- Dash attunement is weird
- Desert attunement upgrade should be average for its range, above average when usign the dash
lapis oak
I think half of the attunements require aggressive playstyle from players to be optimal
dusk bronze
very peculiar how galaxia has so much more aura than aotc but is significantly shittier to use
lapis oak
yoyo is like the only one that I think is justified to be mid
thorn pier
make them true melee weapons with gimmicks here fixed ✅
lapis oak
it has the most range and easiest to use
tired adder
(also before I go to bed, can someone verify if orderbringer is better or worse than ark of the cosmos?)
lapis oak
better
thorn pier
much much better lol
lapis oak
Orderbringer is like SS tier
dusk bronze
way better
tired adder
that's embarassing
lapis oak
it's just part of 2.1 Xyk's reworks
tropic jolt
stop being evil doze
dusk bronze
true
tropic jolt
dont nerf our op weapons we're gona starve
polar tide
i should go nerf it rn
tropic jolt
bad crop
pulsar cobalt
https://tenor.com/view/angry-bird-%D0%B7%D0%BB%D0%B0%D1%8F-%D0%BF%D1%82%D0%B8%D1...
shoebills are so funny
lapis oak
I'd say for Galaxia:
-Phoenix's spin holding should be optimal at close range then only out of range you'll use throw
-Aries deserves to the mid
-Polaris should be great! especially on the close range attack (potentially make the max charge required for teleport star take longer to reach passively so you can't just spam it as often with a safe playstyle)
-new Andromeda, I really don't fucking know man this thing is weird
deft lily
https://tenor.com/view/angry-bird-%D0%B7%D0%BB%D0%B0%D1%8F-%D0%BF%D1%82%D0%B8%D1...
prowler roar.mp3
thorn pier
can u make warbanner attack not weird
lapis oak
is it good? to make Andromeda a movement weapon?
as in, make it charge faster than Polaris but lower the damage
Stygian Shield 2
dusty tinsel
Can we nerf kiri in the next update
deft lily
i agree
lapis oak
😠
deft lily
plain reef
what melee wep should i use for infernum moon lord
dusty tinsel
Nerf kiri and give the power to Umbara
deft lily
Nerf kiri and give the power to Umbara
i agree
eager bone
keep that fuckass mod in that channel pls thank you
Full time calamity mod server employee
plain reef
mb all
deft lily
Full time calamity mod server employee
nah
dusty tinsel
Bean is being obliterated
lapis oak
also doze I disagree that Phoenix does not need to be above average
it should be as in with an aggressive playstyle of sticking to bosses with the spin and not just spam throwing (then it should just be average, under even)
celest wing
the cosmic worm fetching you stuff is so cute holy shit 😭
dusty tinsel
What???
deft lily
the cosmic worm pet fetches you stuff now
strange cargo
Its so annoying
deft lily
or whatever the name of the pet is
dusty tinsel
That's awesome
dusk bronze
void eater marionette
strange cargo
The void eater marionette will grab stuff even when you’re throwing stuff in the shimmer
plush carbon
void eater marionette
strange cargo
And it’ll grab hearts to give to you while you’re full hp
dusty tinsel
Skill issue
celest wing
Its so annoying
it's adorable fr
deft lily
The void eater marionette will grab stuff even when you’re throwing stuff in the...
kind of a skill issue........................... 🤓
strange cargo
Yeah its kinda cute, but it acts fucky when trying to give hearts
dusty tinsel
kind of a skill issue........................... 🤓
🐌
dusty tinsel
Umbara is the Lord of snails
deft lily
😠
dusty tinsel
Snailord if you will
strange cargo
God of Snails
deft lily
hot pebble
brainstorm update talks is still here?
dusty tinsel
dont fuckign snail react me
Too late
strange cargo
brainstorm update talks is still here?
No green needle is here
dusty tinsel
Why wouldn't it be here
deft lily
green needle one month ago
deft lily
is horrible hog trans
dusty tinsel
I am sending umbara back 10,000 years and granting him immortality so he can redo his moment of snail and guess what he would still be slow
deft lily
uninstalling
not woke enough smh
dusty tinsel
Horrible hog lives in a bog
deft lily
Horrible hog is dark woke
i see
strange cargo
He’s a cishet ally who attacks any who dare challenge his horrible throne of horribleness
dusty tinsel
I don't even know what that means
deft lily
i dont either
strange cargo
Cis and hetero
main estuary
deft lily
oh thats what rayse was asking
yeah thats what cishet means
ur straight and your cisgender
strange cargo
Basic bitch mode
deft lily
the evil straight cisgender people..........................
dusty tinsel
Oh
deft lily
😨
dusty tinsel
Banning you for calling them evil
deft lily
😔
strange cargo
Rayse saw that as a personal attack /j
deft lily
rayse isn't cishet
he just
exists
dusty tinsel
Well yes
dusty tinsel
Only half of that would be true, because I am a guy and was born a guy
strange cargo
Rayse does just exist
dusty tinsel
But I am aroace so not straight technically
strange cargo
Such insight from the god of snails
strange cargo
But I am aroace so not straight technically
dusty tinsel
Check mate
hot pebble
uhh...
hot pebble
cuz healing others
dusty tinsel
What's that armor under shadow armor
deft lily
cuz healing others
ah
strange cargo
Mollusk
dusty tinsel
Oh right that exists
strange cargo
You know, more support things wouldnt be terrible
But not too many
Dont want a healer class
dusty tinsel
Unfortunately healer class is not good for solo playthroughs
hot pebble
well as you can see not healing only
hot pebble
Unfortunately healer class is not good for solo playthroughs
yup, its for multiplayer
deft lily
Unfortunately healer class is not good for solo playthroughs
heal bosses 
strange cargo
The humble heal pulse:
thorn pier
npcs only:
deft lily
heal bosses so much they fucking die or something
strange cargo
The nurse:
strange cargo
heal bosses so much they fucking die or something
Cancer
hot pebble
overdose
lean relic
heal bosses <:trollage:1253046608866574437>
pacifist mod
strange cargo
Thats just fucking cancer
deft lily
Thats just fucking cancer
true actually
dusty tinsel
I mean healing is basically magical cancer that stops
lean relic
I mean cancer appears in our body every day
deft lily
yeah
hey @lean relic
do you still have that graph of the songs planned for memory and legend cal albums
lean relic
Yes but outdated rn
deft lily
i see
dusk bronze
here's the most recent version
deft lily
👍
lean relic
I will update both yharon resprite and album 2 music chart after I sleep
dusk bronze
yippee
lapis oak
how are Starmada and Starfleet post buffs
yikes still C?
they are very hard to use they should be above their tiers with optimal usage
blazing field
wulfrum dog
lyric trellis
yikes still C?
If so then that’s not updated lol
lapis oak
can u show me the new tests
lyric trellis
lean relic
At least its close to A now
lapis oak
my intuition was correct, they should be much better still
agile latch
They should problably be A tier
lapis oak
these 2 are like, the same with AotC
agile latch
Considering they need more skill to use
kingsbane being better than starmada would be uncanny
I hope it isn't
lapis oak
they should be better than their tier options because of how much skill you have to put in for optimal usage
like, noticeably better
lyric trellis
Starfleet seems fine, those times are A tier but it’s brought down by just requiring more skill to use than other things
pulsar cobalt
guh
lapis oak
yes that's the issue
agile latch
Starmagedson horrible tier
lyric trellis
Starmada is weird and exos are hell
lapis oak
if that alone put it down 1 tier then it should still be buffed I think
lyric trellis
Don’t think there’s ever a justified S tier weapon unless it’s like, shpc
The whole point is that they’re too strong at that point
arctic cliff
starmageddon... man...
why did they force it to be a post-dog ranger...
with the reason... beign... to combat bloat...
lapis oak
The whole point is that they’re too strong at that point
it's about the effort you put into them
arctic cliff
...only to contribute to an even worse example of bloat...
lapis oak
for a noticeably better rewards
lyric trellis
I think getting a minute under the intended KT is a good enough reward
thorn pier
u get soul eating weapon as gimmick tho :(
lapis oak
you go out of your way to find all of them ok just take it
lapis oak
u get soul eating weapon as gimmick tho :(
never running out of Soul of Flight I'm ngl
pulsar cobalt
meow
thorn pier
tru
lyric trellis
Good for 3-4 fights
lapis oak
ye if you just don't ever touch the Right Click it's like
so much ammo saved
how much stronger is even the Right Click btw
is it enough to justify the time to collect Lingering Souls
jagged copper
here's the most recent version
"Dragon's Aerie"
Why does that sound like an invasion event?
dusk bronze
it's a location
jagged copper
I see
dusk bronze
a massive sky island the dragons used to live on
distant raft
"Dragon's Aerie"
Why does that sound like an invasion event?
i dont know
dim sable
Yeah it's where you will kill Yharim
dusk bronze
except it seemingly doesn't exist
dim sable
When it comes out
dusk bronze
except it seemingly doesn't exist
draedon's scanned the entire surface of terraria multiple times and found no traces
jagged copper
Yeah it's where you will kill Yharim
doesn't sound like a place Yharim would be at...unless perhaps he's mourning there
dusk bronze
he's depression training there
dim sable
actually how big is yharon's egg
Prob like ostrich egg size
distant raft
he ran away to the island that nobody can get to because he is a bitch
dim sable
doesn't sound like a place Yharim would be at...unless perhaps he's mourning the...
Look in the last lore item it says you will meet him there
jagged copper
he's depression training there
I mean that's why he hasn't appeared yet for almost a decade
dusk bronze
?
distant raft
-nearly died ONCE
-gets back with his ex to upgrade his armour
-runs away to the hidden realm
dusk bronze
tropic jolt
-nearly died ONCE
-gets back with his ex to upgrade his armour
-runs away to the...
mutant upgraded his armor???
jagged copper
He's been absent because crippling depression
tropic jolt
draedon's scanned the entire surface of terraria multiple times and found no tra...
draedon will eventually discover the true confines of his digital prison
dim sable
-nearly died ONCE
-gets back with his ex to upgrade his armour
-runs away to the...
Full line:
-gets almost killed by parents
-becomes overlord of terraria
-gets powerful allies
-immediately loses them from forcing them to kill everyone
-becomes depressed
-Goes to a birds nest to be depressed more
jagged copper
draedon's scanned the entire surface of terraria multiple times and found no tra...
then perhaps it isn't on the surface
dusk bronze
well the surface scans included the sky
jagged copper
similar to the distortion