#calamity-update-talk
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its just annoying when there isnt one for when its being used since sometimes u might want to preserve ur dash for the extra damage
i have many a time i couldve safely ended it early but instead took unnecessary damage because i didnt know how long it wouldve stayed up for
i genuinely miss nfts (compared to the current situation with ai) and i would give anything to go back
I hope the ai bubble finally bursts soon
at least nfts weren't threatening lives. at least nfts weren't replacing human interaction. at least nfts weren't being pushed on you in academia. at least you could use a web browser without a button to buy an nft being shoved in your face. at least nfts weren't being unavoidably integrated into every fucking website and app. at least nfts w
^AT LEAST NFTS WEREN'T BEING USED TO MAKE THINGS SO EVIL THAT MY MESSAGE WAS INITIALLY BLOCKED FOR MENTIONING THEM AND I HAD TO EDIT IT OUT
Machine learning should only be used for data analysis and I will die on this hill
Gen AI does nothing productive
Language models are extremely pointless
at least nfts were really funny. ai just makes me sad
nfts WERE funny they were like the cybertrucks of the internet
I been hacked . All my apes gone. I been sold please.
no we can its just that the situation with ai has just become sad and worrying. nfts were just all around funny
^this
I will never understand how people need ai bruh
nfts can't get you convicted for no good reason for crimes you didn't commit
i could not be a teacher dude. chatgpt is a plague
when nfts were big there was never a fucking point where you'd be looking at a regular image and be wondering "is this secretly an nft"
That is true
Companies were still trying to do NFT shit and hop on the trend, but it was much more pathetic
and they dropped that shit much quicker
But there were still concerns about the environment because of crypto mining and stuff
hey i mean they tried it just didn't catch on because the uses for a token just couldn't be properly integrated into societal structure fast and massively enough to justify it
i think part of the reason why gen ai latched on so fast was because it didn't require spending obscene amounts of money on a picture of an ape
also yeah the cost was on the user
ai corrected that! now it's all on the investors 😊
But see it’s ok bc we NEED to make money for the shareholders, so that’s why it’s in everything
🙃
is this just calaAImity-update-talk now
calamity is the first terraria mod made with grok
okay that actually freaks me out too. there's SO MANY MODS MADE WITH AI NOW
FabGPT, make me a new boss
Post xeroc primordial fishron super boss
all my apes . ai .
That is where we diverge. I love hopemaxxing.
yeah it sucks ass. ai sucks and i wish every data center on the planet a very blow the hell up
i do my best to hopemax
life is lifegem
save me silly fictional characters on my pc... save me....
🐗
i believe in hopemaxxing im just so fucking tired
the hogs win if we do that
The air is getting horrible around you
I do what I love, I surround myself with people who believe in what I do, and I remember there are nations that are smarter than the US
Ive genuinely considered it
anahitaa so damn Annoying she wont drop her summon staff 
Okayyyyy that’s enough of this topic now
Okay
Calamity update!
Sorry
where
wow! i like the new Greatsword of Judgement line!
i like you
i missed the old Ark of the Elements/Cosmos im so glad to have it back
i see now why i dont make jokes like that in here. deleting it sorry
what on earth
wat
the first time i saw this sticker i was really tired and the joke didnt register to me at all and i just sort of accepted that this was some kind of weird reaction image iwth a calamity sword for no reason
Sorry for killing the vibe, I won’t talk about it anymore
its fine
oh my god im so glad i wasnt the only one
i just htought it was silly meme to conincide with the Earth rework. no its a pun
what on the earth
I didn’t get it either but I still thought it was funny
what on the tip of earth
alright now we need a weapon called that sink
What on earth...
lets sink about this
Wanna know the other sticker that I put up a vote for that got passed at the same time as the what on earth sticker tho
this topic is not so shrimple
This one can be universally understood
im so glad i ordered this plush
cyborg
he looks so dumb but in a funny way
all my apes added.
my fat shrimp posture chud husband
Clamamiy
wish i was hugging a draedon plush so fucking bad rn fuck everything
his time will come
before draeplush was a real thing it was something i wanted so fucking bad that i made multiple drawings about it
He is Coming
draeeeeeeeeedonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
may cannot come any sooner
devil may cry 7 confirmed
draedon may arrive
I would cry if they made a xeroc plush
aureus plush RIGHT NOWWW
bro isnt even in the mod
wholesome chungus plush tmr
my ultimate goal in life
dog plush in hell waiting for his redesign
send $6480 so I can get DoG plush
send me mon
send me money so i can pay my bills
sometimes i realize all over again that im legit in the position to be making a lot of the first official yharim Things (like merch) and i start rotating at dangerous speeds
on which axis do you rotate
yharim plush is kinda inevitable i think like
hes the one "Lore character" that can def get one very easily
bro became Galaxia: Phoenix Pride
even without him being ingame everyone knows him
Inevitable like Yharim himself…
Hi hi meow
at least hes on the title screen
the y axis (for yharim)
i want yharim plush And yharim figurine because my greed is immeasurable
I missed the draedon plush and I’m still regretting it
I got a Quivern and Chillet plush though
We must turn all war criminals into marketable plushies.
It’s pretty fun how there’s the current Cal big 3 as plushies and then there’s Signus
calamity figurine line would go very hard
sigma ..
Well obviously people want Signus, they're like, the second best boss in the trilogy.
Second best what an honor
the trilogy that consists of two mini bosses and a literal mere object
Yeah, that one.
Got chosen over Worm #83 and a door.
My favorite character is the door
Soaking him in milk in my mind
signut!!!!!!
when we have yharim plush (and YES this is a WHEN) we will make a promotional video like this with it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niigKMHGnPI
Grab the Spamton Talking Plush at https://fanga.me/r/pwfa
This official Spamton plush was designed by Saber Murphy and measures about 12 inches long when cradled like a newborn baby in your arms.
(Due to its proportions it can’t stand upright without support.)
It makes one of five sounds when you squeeze its head in. (Requires 3 replaceable A...
just be rich clearly
if your homeless just buy a house
if your drowning just learn to swim in the heat of the moment
make yharim transformer
yharim car
has there ever been a calamity itasha and if not i hope to see one someday
like imagine this, but in auric gold
although this guy is mostly spaceship, not a car...
...yharim jet?
super hog
Uber hog
miner 49er from scooby doo
100 ways to kill yoshi yharim
yes this is how carny looks like irl
green = the next update is old duke rework
You know what else is green…

something quite. horrible.
reworked ravager boss fight is becoming green and getting a ddr section
I am going to dance for you
Carny: 1
Israel: 0
Anyone can help me with the Brain firght I'm playing deathmode rogue class
Type of shit Scott cawthon was making in 2004
yharim
out in the next update which releases in 46 minutes
Is the horrible hog coming too?
46 minutes?
we replaced him with a wondorous worm
You will pay for this transgression.
At least $2
You too can become trans
I can’t make you autistic because you probably are already
calamity needs trains
tbh I'm very much not sure
calamitas clone rides a train
Mod that turns DoG into a subway train
why do a place for trains and a sandwich joint share a name
this migth be the best video ever
aliens in my calamity mod
yes
thanks
Please More bosses for pre hardmode
ok I will add 500 more bosses for pre hardmode
💀
You will love it when evil2 leaves prehm and so does slime god
the evil lore nerds will stop the latter from happening
the lore nerds want it 😭
Yeah
are you sure
im pretty sure the lore nerds are the people who want it the most in the entire playerbase
if this doesnt happen i will cast a curse on all calamity devs past present future
SG turning into QS truly is the most “this lore was written retroactively” thing in the mod, so glad it’ll be able to change eventually
Alongside “evil2 unlocks the sky ore because dragons”
isn't pre-hm calclone scrapped or something?
no
Personally am against the SG clone swap
i personally like sg to qs
Weakest god being prehardmode feels right
also i dont wanna use purified gel for my cores of gelamity
likely going to streamline materials even more, maybe cores of calamity will also get poofed
First and only person to think about cores of calamity in this situation
Core already uses ectoplasm so it’s not like it’d have to stop using ashes (or just remove ashes from it)
Me too
Calamity after 10 updates: "removed all calamity crafting materials"
I can't wait for calclone to be prehm
A clone of the strongest witch being a punching bag? Yea, no thanks
would it help if she was a clone of a clone (exo mechs)
The consequences of being a normal human without the powers of brimstone
Relegated to prehm
If it was a flesh idol made in her name and looks empowered by some brimstone I could tolerate
the clone of the strongest witch is weaker than some plant monster in the jungle... yea, no thanks
the solution is to vaporize calclone entirely 
She literally has NO powers
Honestly truth
What else do you expect
Whats the point of calclone in the lore?
it got added so it just exists now
draedon was bored as usual
she existed before the rewrite and i guess probably also helps showcase how much of a disregard for life draedon has since he's willing to create a replica of a person and then just leave her in a tube when she doesn't meet expectations
If the eyeball part is gonna be abandoned with corresponding lore changes, whats will be the point of calclone
being calamitous ig
Being a clone of calamitas
slime god final boss 👀
You're overthinking it
its funny how theres two different calamity addons which make the final boss a slime
What if slime god wasnt the actual slime god itself
hotog aaaaaand?
catalyst prob
exodygen is the final boss of CCR I think
but its a final hm boss 🤔
maybe that doesnt count
oh right exodygen
Its pre ml broski
iirc that's from sloome though (or whataver it's called)
yeah but like
How to solve the slime god lore issue, make it an avatar(s) of slime god
make the paladin the gods and make the god the paladin
Corruption avatars being weaker then hallow avatar (queen slime) because hallow is stronger or som
I can completely understand and tolerate the folly and evil 2 swap
Because those 2 bosses basicaly only have direct drops and aftermath
And then positions of them in progression
The eyeball part if anything makes her character worse
Atleast imo
Anyways i am in dnd now
so i wont say anything anymore
im changing and growing as a person
Cheese.
keeping clone the eyeball gives more reason to just remove her entirely, but well her lore isnt written with that outdated info in mind so that wont happen
Her lore is whos lore? Clone's? Rn its literaly something something calclone in a metal shell or something
Im also negative about the swap because of how different the bosses are
SG drops a material that feels right at its current state and that material has a wide use
this just feels like a way to justify sg being weak for no reason, and also would mean we wouldnt kill it
...I am honestly against the idea of purified gel thing
Calclone drops a material that is stands at the core of calamity cores and generaly sees much lesser use, and then there is calclone aftermath
or how its called
because of close it is to wall
like, in general, over time
SG and calclone swap as just a swap would cause a cascade of issues that will need to be adressed
it feels like bosses like SG or star scouter are... limited by being the last pre-hm boss, if that makes any sense
this shouldnt be a big factor considering both bosses and any content related to them would be reworked
Very confused on what the issues are supposed to be that can’t be easily rectified
you work harder for their drops, than shadow chest items and hell drops, but they are instantly outclassed in hm just the same
(also like why wouldnt the materials also be changed when the bosses get remade?)
Say calclone and sg swap will happen and materials be changed/removed, then what will happen to say calamity cores or supreme calamitas summoning?
The entire identity of calamity cores is, well, them being tied to calamitas in a way
star scouter like from thorium?
yes
A powerfull crafting material being a backbone of many crafts
Changed and changed
The devs have that power
Both of those can still just use ashes of Calamity?
also whats with a lot of the late phm bosses being space themed
Retier doesn’t change anything there
meteor
idk
A weak stinky pre hm material in post ml?
Yeah why not
Yeah why not
copper shortsword:
yeah why not !
this is probably why vanilla reinforces qb deerclops and skeletron being interchangeable
space doesn't have a boss in vanilla and space already exists as biome (unlike hallow)?
Mage uses mana polarizer in endgame builds who cares
in modded
i shoulda specified
As opposed to a mid hardmode one?
in modded most often than not the second to last boss in phm is space themed
Wait until this guy hears about terraspark boots
living shards and shit like that
its because we gotta fill in the gaps of biomes not having bosses
i mean yeah this mod is ancient and her lore wasnt really thought of back then, especially since clone wont be reworked for a while, but shes being turned into an actual character revolving around dealing with being a clone of another person and creating her own identity, and not being a random who is stuck to a life support machine
yes. so mods add space boss because there is no space boss
i dont see how this is like an issue
I feel like Im ragebaiting the chat without ever trying or intending to do so
fighting calclone four times as she gets better with her magicks
Keep going
this convo seems unproductive
the final "fight" with her is actually against scal and she fights with us
source: im from the future
The consequences of asking what if questions like this
it's better than horrible hog
discord conversations are known for being productive
yes!
This isnt unintentional rage bait, theres just such a thing has having a bad take and not having a proper justification
Every convo here is unproductive so yeah
Using discord is unproductive in itself
Oh my Gooooooood bro
were all losers!
Shut up shut up shut up shut up
Roxy hiiii
How does every debate that happen in this chat somehow always turns into "this sucks we should stop talking"
hello roxy
Like holy shit man
some people cannot handle the faintest of animosity
(not an insult, this is just how some are)
idk i just got here
Why discuss anything online when it’s unproductive, can’t do anything besides grind
i Personally just vacate if the chat gets Horrible (Hog) but thats just me
Then
"this debate is unproductive" then moves out to hogposting for the 5th time in the day
^
???????
okay but like hogposting is
Literally
i suppose that is my bad for not back reading prior to typing
hogposting is great
so my bad
its a smooth pebble that gives no taste and just goes right through
I was actually interested in this conversation but everyone went "wow how unproductive discord sucks" so thanks
Entering cal advice talk to tell everyone there it’s unproductive
its just the same brainrot in this channel but with a different mascot
we need less hatecore!!! more hopecore!!!!
they added a springboard stepstool!!!!!!
thats awesome!!!!!!!
one could argue that this remark is unproductive

The step stool upgrade tree will do nicely as a wings replacement
bountiful harvest -> harvest staff pumpkin
pre-bs -> amidias joker image
post-bs -> hogposting
it's not horrible hog yet
Anyway yeah, ashes of Calamity can be anywhere in progression I don’t see the issue if it’s just to summon scal
i do think the jump should be tied to a jump while upon a stool
instead of a keybind
anyways yeah uhh
current cal clone sucks
🔁
current cal clone is B tier idk what yall hate
i do not like cal clone eye
the fight is fine, its not like
DoG
but its still Good
(not Amazing but Good)
hi CDMusic
i do think the arena addition was an improvement to cal clone
truke
agreed
I like cal clone a lot better now
its okay
it prevented a lot of the things that made her really boring before
A massive one at that
being able to organically change the arenas size depending on attack is Good
doze was the goat for adding that to cal clone
Oh 100%
doze i think is just the goat. <-- period
That did a lot for the fight
at least socially they talk so much and thats really good
YES doze is fucken awesome
its kind of like how current DoG only exists because pre-Brainstorm dog sucked ass and so it was made better for the time being
same case with cal clone
should calamity just let doze make all the bosses
no bc BoC was awesome
i hate byleth so much
Lmao
i dont play smash
DoG was so 💔 so glad it’s good finally
not cuz they are in smash but because i hate playing against them
how do i phrase my opinion
we should be talking about the geopolitical state of the world right now
Id say that I like reworked BoC over DoG
if DoG never got reworked again, i would be satiated
when it DOES get reworked, i will be happy
does this sound right
I ran away from this convo
hi
this is true
Is it allowed tho?
I hope distortion dog in 50 years keeps a similar fight rhythm to 2.1 dog
be a real one and smoke this entire DoG sized blunt
Such a funny butterfly effect
Oh really
if final rework dog still has any lasers id boar myself
Is this related to your storm weaver mod
most likely yes but #general-talk discussion
Please do not discuss geopolitics in Calamity Update Talk I think I would die
I feel like your lungs wouldn't handle god slayer inferno
storm weaver -> storm weaver mod -> i get code in cal for tenryu based on storm weaver mod worms -> contribute to calamity via PR -> become dev -> yeah
explode
I hope not, the chases below malice are so boring I could fall asleep
Funny
if distortion is not 4 dimensional and uncontrollably shifts i will be Okay with that
(i've made 4 dimensional space make sense)
evil subworld of doom
I think lucille would be the one to make distortion actually 4th dimensional
have you seen 4D miner?
Totally doable with the right math
Just imagine taking damage from something that literally does not exist here yet
i mean reasonably its just an extra slider, no
Even 3D terraria is crazy enough
Like I said, you can legitimately do that
The math and theory is there
you take 2 dimensions, add a third (background) and then move it around with the slider
Unsure exactly, i've just seen simulations that do it
:D
Ive seen a video that explains it well
i mentally put it as a seperate dimension
e878uyygijghgpyuup0o
So true Carny
like other than xyz its a slider and as that slider moves you also
Carny can you see into the fourth dimension
Fourth dimension is already teleporting
I'm not getting a no
well yeah but you take one 3d spot and walk in the fifth to the second 3d spot
migraine?
the distortion should just be ultrakill's fraud layer 
fighting noxus and they put you in The Fucking Gauntlet
at this point in time i can't know exactly what all the limitations are, but i really really hope when the distortion comes around that we can do some really crazy shit with the visuals
not The (specifier) Fucking (Evil) Gauntlet (Noun), The Fucking (adjective) Gauntlet (noun)
i should specify
Through The Wringer is a better phrase
fighting ceaseless void and it drops me into 8-3
i get really excited when i think about visually developing the distortion auuughhh
wont be for like 10 million billion years though
please make sure to make it an absolutely alien environment that you automatically feel uncomfortable in
there are no blocks, it’s all circles
this is the idea yeah
i thinkg ive mentioned this in here before but in my head my biggest inspiration for distortion visuals is yume nikki
distortion's music should be randomized jumble of existing OSTs
maybe even related to gods DoG ate
the distortion should have no music, just a low drone sound constantly playing
oh pog
love freaky ass dangerous alien worlds
favorite zone in the new wow expansion is the voidstorm for this reason even if that one is more similar to some previous ones they've already done and not as alien at times
a small selection of areas that make me think of the distortion
of course similarly lsd dream emulator is a big inspiration too
-# l-l-l-le.. legrid??
?
doomsayer
i might be thinking of something else
idk im too sleep deprived
alex you should kill me
while evil space world would be neat, the distortion being portrayed as reality having been torn apart and stitched back together would also be cool
i really would not like the distortion to just be a space world
evil nonsense world
now thats more like it
the evil bullshit lair
Distortion is a space world with a purple filter until further notice
the distortion's whole premise is that it's essentially a place where reality is so bent out of shape that it had to be shoved into its own pocket dimension
forreal?
I mean more like
free real estate for me to write for it then
Ya can't easily define it
space moves like a fluid and cosmilite is it merely leaking through the seams 
Tho well
hm
i would consider myself to be fucked up
this means im the distortion clearly
how's noxus today?
fucked up
not rlly lol
not much is publicly known about noxus afaik
also im not a lore geek so im like the worst person to ask lore related questions
cna i help worldbuild for the distortion when the time comes please i am very passionate about it bats my big fucking eyelashes
@polar tide
an incomprehensible fissure of broken spacetime which leeches energy from our dimension to sustain itself.
yaasss
This is the main gist
interesting
There's a bunch of shit about it already tbh it's more that like
Saying what the Distortion is is pretty hard
ik what im saying is i would like to help add to it eventually
Yeah sure
steamhappy
Not like we got everything done lol
i miss my son (leegrid)
So its like how billionaires are leeching from society huh
what
so you want to say that noxus is essentially elon musk?
Big distortion is leeching energy from the world
To sustain itself
But likely takes more energy than it needs
I feel like there is obvious joke
but no one wants to hear it because it is tired as fuck
draedonGPT generate me a joke that CUT will love
ur mom
If there are ever gonna be more worm bosses added in the future, the hardware resource usage of some accessories has got to be better optimized. Tried the boss rush with true melee and had to sit through 5 real-life minutes of EoW at 2 fps. Don't know if it's better with other classes (it's definitely not as bad using non-true melee weapons), but i also don't have the patience I imagine is needed to test them out
Hi, how to get sunken sea encrypted schematic after update?
Turn off warbanner visuals and it might help
before it looked different, and it was in chest
now there is only one chest, and no schematic
Same way, sunken sea lab
there are still two chests in the lab
There should be two chests
there is not
And it still looks the same as far as I know
3 worlds created, 0
did you miss the second one. it's in a tank full of water
OH JESUS
LMAO
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
This is the first time ive seen the new labs theyre a really big improvement wow
I actually missed it the first time too
why was that put there that's so bad
Say you swear if it was a snake it would’ve bit you
It really needs to be illuminated or moved
I would have missed it too tbh
A new player not knowing schematics exist is not finding that
the contents of it should be moved to the more visible one i agree
real
Especially bc the SS schematic is meant to be the first one you find
Just something like a jellyfish to make it visible would help
wait this is cute
Jellyfish block will change the world
what the fuck 😭
THAT WAS THE FUCKING ONE
This is not a joke I hope the jellyfish block becomes a staple of SS related shrine worldgen
I dont want a jellyfish block
I just want a living jellyfish
What… No… This can’t be!
honestly i think this can be fixed solely by adding a glowmask to these chests
Something that really annoys me and I hope eventually gets changed is that the vernal soil is not a true jungle block so regular underground enemies spawn in the Pass
like its just that simple, make it glow
Is that why they spawn there
Yes
I was wondering why
Jungle enemies spawn on mud and jungle grass
Also all platforms are considered neutral blocks which is why generic underground or surface enemies spawn on them
Ah
i wish i was petting my cat rn
Honestly if it weren't for the giant plantera bulbs I feel like vernal soil is a really random and pointless addition to the mod
The jungle already has so much shit why did we give it fancy dirt
🐴?
to grow giant plantera bulbs
i see
We already have the portabulb and if the vernal pass was made of mud then natural bulbs would spawn in it
why not just let the player grow regular plantera bulbs
im guess its if you want to like. use the giant bulbs for... build... purposes?
its just a plantera arena made on worldgen so you don't have to (its not like making a plantera arena is the hardest thing ever
just bomb it
Having 3 distinct plantera summoning methods and 1 adds a pointless block that fucks up jungle spawns in what would otherwise be a wonderful farming location is really stupid
The true solution is removing portabulb
yknow how perennial is planned to become "bark" basically?
what if it grows exclusively on vernal soil
people can build with literally anything
if this was the idea i'd kind of rather there be non functional decorative versions of them
why tho, what purpose does the portabulb have then
its surprising how Everything Ever can be used in a build
Personally I don't understand the placement of perennial ore. HM already is so crowded with armor sets and the role perennial has is being outdone by the vanilla utility armor upgrades
add giant plantera bulbs to the rubblemaker 🚎
i know that there was ideas for a perennial biome that would be a replacement for the vernal pass but well
I hope we lose all the perennial armor except the tank set
no
stop
just stop right there
I like the giant bulbs but why do they need their own block to grow on
is this a result of vanilla code fuckery
anyhow i think portabulb would be much cooler if instead of directly spawning plantera it instead allowed you to place plantera bulbs
if we need giant plantera bulbs to be obtainable by the player for whatever reason we should have like an Evil Seed that lets you do that or some shit
im pretty sure someone else came up with this idea, probably a dev, but yea
I love the headgear too but the mining armor upgrade in vanilla makes it a wasteful crowding of an already crowded period of the game, and I think it over-trivializes exploration
what are you talking about its not wasteful
its literally an exploration armor thats actually in hardmode
IT DIDN'T WORK
Again when we get 1.4.5 compat, we will have hardmode utility armors
I think Earth in particular might just be very poorly optimized for worms
idea so good vanilla copied it
i dont like perennial for the sole fact that we already have uelibloom armor and chlorophyte armor and silva armor it just feels like too much plants. too much plants
And it does everything so well that imo it should be post-ML
it is. i have experienced it
I dont like perennial or eulibloom and I think they should both be killed
doesnt uelibloom is being killed?
honestly tho the real cool idea would be to rework the armors to be upgrades of existing armors, if you so thoroughly despise them
perennial tank is honestly the one that can be disposed off ngl
If that happens then it definitely should be either post-golem or post-ml rather than post-plantera
because well
I just want a combo of mining armor and marnite armor
we have turtle armor alr, and post golem you get beetle armor
although perennial tank is all-class
but anyhow i dont think you should literally throw away the other perennial armors
the best thing i can say about perennial is that its pretty
He wont be insectoid or have multiple limbs
they are, if anything, really unique
The one that would have some bug elements is dogma ( 4 arms )
i like how big veins of it have little pink flower
I think the perennial armors are all kind of ass not in concept but in their placement in the game and aesthetically bc we have 3 plant armors
they're not the annoying standard 5 class-based armor sets
they're 3 all-class armor sets that focus more on ultilty
that is cool for an ore armor set
I think with 1.4.5 compat they should be placed later in progression and have their aesthetic changed to match
ever wonder why literally every ore armor set has plans to be cut down to only have a select few classes
ya
They’re going to be killed
there is no plans to murder any reaver set afaik
LOL
I thought perennial was getting killed?
Reaver is the one that is going to be the most kept
as a bar yes
I can see why the stuff is getting kept tho
that doesn't mean all items are dying
The mining set upgrade will be too close to reaver headgear and reaver headgear is so unbelievably better and significantly easier to obtain than mining armor
Never used reaver stuff but it seems cool enough
reaver armor, viral sprout, vexation are the ones I'd imagine will live
One is post 1 mech, other is post plant
viral sprout should not go away
That's like 1 sneeze apart
if it does im tossing half the devteam into the yasur volcano
Its like 6 bosses a part and a lot of exploration
Viral sprout cant go away bc of virid vanguard
The early parts of hardmode are def some of the longest
Most dense is def post-golem though
what if
If the sets are being changed then any discussion doesn't matter anyway lmao
mrrp mrrrr
Hi kitty
you could make viral sprout be found growing in the grass (in whatever vernal pass becomes in the future), like how abigail's flower is found growing near tombstones
Gives you evil kibbles and bits
I understand why the progression stops there since pickaxes become so powerful that it's really easy to hit the absolute limit of mining speed (1 block per tick)
because ultimately multiclass ore sets are very restrictive in their stat and gameplay design?
Reaver isnt a mining set anyway, it will be more of general utility
i know the plan is to combine terra set with reaver set, and since terra weapons are largely upgrades to existing prior weapons, you could make reaver armors upgrade from similar armor set
it is a general utility set already tbh
I would guess if you want to minmax only mining, mining armor v2 could still be better
reaver is the best abyss set in the game, for example
mobility
Isn't it like, movement focused?
Its 3 sets right
If you’re a coward. Use Omega Blue
I always just run whatever armor is on tier and use accs for abyss
accs aren't nearly as powerful as reaver explore is
Saved me from having to farm shroomite
reaver explore gives way better abyss light, air refill mid-abyss, reduced breath loss
i remember cd was complaining to me about how difficult death golem is and i beat it in one try with tank reaver lol
Maybe ill give reaver a shot in my next run
What does tank need with Shroomite?
Take damage deal damage
Cd does music, be nice
that's the idea to move reaver explore into
I think making reaver miner be a combination of prospector armor and Marnite or some other building armor set would be neat
what do you mean by this
depth cells/lumenyl armor set
Ceaseless Doid
reaver also already does give good building boosts!
like it just already kinda does all that
More focused on music than gameplay I would assume
it's a bit too much of an everything armor
he's a tester for the mod
Oohh cdmusic is?
Yeah it's literally a swiss army knife and I like that but it's so good at everything and you get it post-plant when it feels like it should be closer to Moon Lord with how it trivializes literally all exploration and construction
i am confused. does me being a concept artist mean im more focused on art than gameplay
turning off warbanner visuals helped, then turning off the rest of my accessories made Destroyer lag-free. But using Earth on Astrum Deus I think just bricked my literal gaming PC lmao
Thats how my brain works okay 
although there is this goofy set already
I dont see anything that goes on between devs
paravili i swear to god stop acting like construction needs to be something you have to balance
its fine if construction becomes overly easy
Oh shit i shoulda used that when I was trying testing earlier
It doesn't but it completely renders construction accs pointless
no???
Except auto painters, pretty much
if anything that might be an accessibility since hand of creation can be really hard to make
don't you get like 80% of builder progression in pre-hm?
You can always have more range
depends on the concepts actually I feel like? If you're making art to conceptualize a mechanic, no, but if you're going all Michael Kirkbride with it and start going absolutely insane with crazy designs just for the love of the game (which is worthwhile! not saying it's not! I love Kirkbride lol), then yes?
Hand of creation being rng based on the traveling merchant is stupid
Until you reach the edge of your current zoom
this also gives the same light stats as reaver, more breath, etc
the base buffs to mining and building speeds make those accessories and armors less valuable
but being a depth cell set makes it suck for abyss
Just make the traveling merchant a town npc 
bc by the time you get it
you don't wanna know how long i waited for a DPS-meter in my last run
you're already done
i wasnt talking about in regards to what i develop for the mod. the person was talking like cd being a musician means he doesn't play the game which is what confused me
true?
It saved me from having to farm shroomite in my infernum playthrough since i just used reaver tank instead
But even if we set aside construction, which is fine if it's really easy to get all the power you need for it, that still leaves it as a completely overwhelming answer for mining and exploration til the endgame
Thats not what I intended im sorry 
while reavers is on the set bonus
FSwarmer and Reaver are the only two sources of flashlight width in the game rn
I don't get why we only get 2 class-specific water sets, and at such different points in progression. Sulfurous and this, or am I forgetting one?
That is a bit guh..
There should problably be other sources
Flashlight accessory
ahh, that makes sense, mb
Make something new
i was getting philosophical with it lol
as long as you sprite it
if something's sprited to do it i'd add it but like
Holding but not using one of the prisms maybe?
If its cool, i can sprite it
Why not
Just need to get some horrible things out of the way first

Flashlight pistol that you can get pretty early
i don't have any items in specific that would be good for flashlight width
abyssal diving suit?
horrible things?
The flashlight item
oh yeah
Horrible things ye
diving suit might have it
we should hunt down the catalyst devs and ask them for permission to use their wulfrum flashlights
i don't rememeber
horrible
Holy stuff should help with light too
horrible hog should drop long-awaited QoLs
wait is horrible hog actually intended to be implemented for the next content patch?
Thatd make sense
abysall diving suit only gives the Jellyfish Necklace light effect, same as before
Its too horrible for us to know
if so thats awesome (and makes sense, the whole pig thing doesn't seem to be so massive that itd be an overly difficult thing to implement)
although reducing intensity technically helps with width indirectly
-10% intensity?
Little light?
abyssal diving suit should totally increase flashlight width it's like The abyss exploration gear item
imagine the state of lunacy this channel will enter, when doze will show off actual horrible hog AI?
when the clock strikes the hour, the time will arrive
intensity ranges from 0% to 300% depending on depth
It must be horrible
Clock strikes 12 midnight arrives
counterpoint: it already does so much for abyss it doesn't need to be even more overcentralized for abyss exploration
You would think the celestial shell would help with abyss
Why would doze specifically
Do horrible hog
i think people just like doze a lot
Goatze
i certainly like em
okay
The Destiny ghost
good to know
Cheese would do the hog
True
The annoying shape ghost thing?
🧊
frosty mammoth trinket...
I think I said that name…
counter counterpoint abyss exploration is stinky doodoo rn and it's gonna be awesome when we overhaul it
I'm sorry for sharing my bad opinions about reaver armor btw I just don't like having a trivializing swiss army knife item before golem 😔
Was stolen by the goverment
hey triangle I've been trying to ask you something in dms
sorry that I keep repeatedly asking
that implies there is more than one hog
so horrible hog will have a brother
And golden piggy
its fine, honestly your opinions arent so terrible that i'd look down upon you
Two are good, one is… horrible
yes, but they are not named hogs
Hogmaggedon will be amazing
horrible hog better pick up eggs if you leave them around
Terrible opnions.. horrible opnions..
Next update hogmageddon
True
Sso never
Seriously dude 😭
Need the folly slingshot to deal triple damage on horrible hogs
I hope we can use the hog to kill npcs
horrible hog drops 9999 rotten egg
🥹 what
I hope the hog is horribly horrible
horrible hog is a war vet 💔 🥹
I think it was discussed either here
or in suggestion discussion
finch staff does double damage to horrible hogs
hog! hog! hog! hog! hog! hog!
famous last words
Horrible hog will save the mod
This hog is so horrible I could die
lemon nade will save rogue
Rogue will die with the mod if horrible hog doesn't come soon
Please horrible hog we need you now more than ever
What’s the post-hog rogue loadout?
I think horrible hog should have a horrible hog weapon where you horrible hogs
Will there be a horrible hog mask
gfb horrible hog will be terrifying
I hope so
superboss, that is accessible at beginning of the game
the hog will remain horrible until morale worsens
"If SSO isn't the next update, does that mean it's cance--"
DAMN!!!!!!
Hog first
DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
now we're cooking
Clupdate chat marching to make the latest slop joke that has been told 500 times already
Yeah
🐗
Hogstorm when?
THREE LITTLE PIGGIES ENEMIES
those are some bad piggies
That reminds me of this
Horrible hog’nt???
The three little piggy enemies? With their stick, wood and metal house?
🥹
yes, from folklore
I know
they were destroyed by Yharim’s table slam, unfortunately
Their houses collapsed
But the way it says it, make it sound like there is the three little piggies in cal
maybe that's why they are working for horrible hog
Oh man I still need to work on that weapon
They had to make the metal house to protect themselves from yharim
the three little piggies turned into john wulfrum
When are we getting the three big hogs
Auric table slam is a sentry
the hog council....
The recipe is going to be a table and 5 auric bars
Summons an approximation of Yharim to slam on the table repeatedly
they rule the world through their horrible emissary...
10k melee damage to everything in 7000 meters including NPCs
True
the big bad tyrant
No it’s gonna be you just put a table down and slam it
😔
horrible hog (pre-hm)
duke fishron (hm)
old duke (post-ML)
just hope he doesnt hire an alchemist
Does Yharim play rust?
True
duke fishron is a fog (hog + fish)
i feel bound
does it mean something bad?
hogbound
Uh-hoggin-believable
The humble dart monkey…
We are removing all remaining bloons references
Much to my dismay, but it has been spoken
actually why is that?
moab is getting replaced by the piggy airship
is there actual trouble?
Why?
More room
For hog
I don't know if they actually are, but several already have bc rogue weapon bloat
More hog
you forgot an important word here
There will be evil moab
I briefly thought that Ninja Kiwi didn't like you
Goodbye murasama 
🥹 its so sad how
literally one
