calamity-update-talk

[deft lily]

I agree

[vivid hemlock]

the two (three) exos not called ares have this issue where they dont have much of an actual identity as a design

[vocal kelp]

the twins are kind of like jets but not really!

then thanatos is nothing theres nothing there

[hollow harness]

each iteration of skeletron bosses increases the amount of arms by 2

[vocal kelp]

he's black instead of grey i never knew why is that because hes the oldest of the bunch and whenever twins and ares were made they didnt like the black plating

[deft lily]

I mean probably

[vocal kelp]

i wish ares had 6 arms itd have been more entertaining i dont think the fight could be meaningfully worse

[deft lily]

but i still dont think the designs themselves are inherently bad

[distant raft]

granted: two more laser arms, ares is now impossible to dodge

[vivid hemlock]

ares was supposed to have 6 arms but apparently it was scrapped? dont quote me on that

[vocal kelp]

yeah

there was also supposed to be a third twin

[deft lily]

I think ares should get to steal your sensitive data and sell it on the dark web

[distant raft]

one from above, one from the left, and one from the right
they always switch places but it doesnt matter

[vocal kelp]

both ideas got killed because fasbol reasonably thought it would be too much

[tropic jolt]

the rework should have four twins to prove its superiority

[deft lily]

Malice exclusive move

[tropic jolt]

gfb draedon will pull out a gun and shoot you from his chair

[distant raft]

with how malice exos were on release i find it hard to believe anything was too much

[deft lily]

anyway

[vocal kelp]

his brain works in mysterious ways

[deft lily]

sso never

[vivid hemlock]

impo ares should get the 3rd pair of arms back, maybe not the third exo eye tho

its not like theres no assets for it

[frail owl]

[tropic jolt]

am I correct in remembering that nobody even beat them in testing at all

[vivid hemlock]

afaik infernum uses the scrapped 3rd pair of arms

[deft lily]

mustve been the wind

[distant raft]

yeah

[tropic jolt]

and then gp took 1500 attempts to no hit them 💔

[distant raft]

they were left unbeaten for several months iirc

[tropic jolt]

after nerfs

[deft lily]

god forbid I ever try no hitting

[vocal kelp]

the concepts, sorta, yes

[vivid hemlock]

ic

[tropic jolt]

to be fair nothing in death mode is even close to that hard rn

[hushed crown]

I think the exo mechs should be of queen bee deerclops and another queen bee instead

[vivid hemlock]

horrible

[tropic jolt]

wait hold on we've got a 5 star chef in chat

[hollow harness]

disgusting idea

[tropic jolt]

horrible idea'

[deft lily]

even then i still dont see the appeal of nohitting

like at all

[tropic jolt]

fair

[deft lily]

outside of it being an arbitrary challenge people do

which, what else is new

[hushed crown]

I mean it’s useful for empress

There’s probably better summon weapons though I’ve never played summoner in calamity

[deft lily]

I dont play summoner so i never have to do daylight empress

[tropic jolt]

terraprisma is a sword though!!!

[hushed crown]

Load an older version of calamity beat empress normally get terraprisma then switch back

[tropic jolt]

its a melee weapon!!!!

[deft lily]

fuck...
youre right...

youre so right..

[solemn crest]

calmty mod

[deft lily]

calamity mod

[tropic jolt]

horrible mod

🐗

[hushed crown]

Rainstorm

[deft lily]

the only thing worse than horrible hog brain rot is 6 7

[tropic jolt]

if we dont get a horrible hog emoji in this server im going to get angry

[deft lily]

😨

[solemn crest]

[fierce nebula]

🐖

[tropic jolt]

pig2

🐷🐗

[solemn crest]

pig!

[fierce nebula]

🫧 🐠

[tropic jolt]

hogstorm tomorrow

[solemn crest]

😳

[fierce nebula]

🥀

[tropic jolt]

the 30-50 feral hogs are coming

[frail owl]

[solemn crest]

hog brain

[frail owl]

meow

[fierce nebula]

🫧 🦐

[thorn pier]

[solemn crest]

sso tomorrow?

[tropic jolt]

sso never

[thorn pier]

yeah tomorrow morning

[solemn crest]

[vivid hemlock]

the hog rot has infested the hearts and minds

[solemn crest]

sso on my birthday :D

[stone fiber]

Guys, I forgot, what's going to happen with sea remains in the future?

[distant raft]

i will eat them yummy yum

[solemn crest]

i bet they taste like shrimp and pretzels

[proud plover]

my friend really liked that actually when I showed him cal for the first time. Like he thought it tied the playthrough together in a nice way

[blazing field]

I did describe my issues with it earlier

[hardy gulch]

5 trillion drooling feral hogs are approaching the calamity dev team's servers

[blazing field]

For whats meant to be a very tanky and defensive machine it instead looks far more offensive and is just kind of a boring design given it's the same exact type of silhouette used by every other worm boss ever

It dosen't look defensive or bulky its kind of just big scary worm with two mandibles on the front! number uhhh idk forty three

It really dosent have much identity

Nor doe sit really visually look like what its meant to be in-lore

[vivid hemlock]

nothing guaranteed

[blazing field]

theyre gonna remain, in the sea

[vivid hemlock]

thats true

also its funny to me how similar the sulph sea and sunken sea's names are

[blazing field]

give us the third biome the uhh

scorched sea

yep

sad sea

[vivid hemlock]

i know what you are.

[blazing field]

sludge sea

[tribal isle]

astral undergrowth

[vivid hemlock]

super sea

[blazing field]

yeah im gay

the super sea

[hardy gulch]

Subterranean Abomination

[blazing field]

rename the sulphur sea to the sulphur shores or something, trust me

[vivid hemlock]

true!

ever so slightly less confusing

[hardy gulch]

brimstone beach

[strange cargo]

Average rogue weapon

[distant raft]

what do you mean it somehow got fucking buffed

[lapis oak]

1 more Rogue weapon to the SS tier, please

can we get much higher

[mystic eagle]

Providence literally eats all the hits for breakfast

[strange cargo]

How did it get buffed when the changes seem negative

Wtf

[mystic eagle]

Retier to pre Provi

[strange cargo]

Ahh

[deft lily]

I dont have a birthday

[distant raft]

oh hey shadowspec testing

yep

[deft lily]

ive existed for trillions of years

[mystic eagle]

Guess what happens when the weapon that was one of the best weapons for Yharon due to his size gets tiershifted to pre Provi

Whoops! 80 seconds under the SS Tier requirement!

[vocal kelp]

well uh

80 seconds is quite a lot of time

wait under

so like

oh

okay

lol

[tribal isle]

No one asked

[mystic eagle]

No one asked for you to respond

[tribal isle]

woah thats mean

[deft lily]

I asked

⛈️

[tropic jolt]

stonestorm

[deft lily]

moyaistorm

the cyver update

[tropic jolt]

🗿

[muted cliff]

what the fuck is aiming?

[mystic eagle]

Doing proper damage

[severe coral]

Holy hell dude debuffs are the best thing ever

I've never seen Ares get crumpled like a piece of paper before

[muted cliff]

can still get proper damage without crit, also im not sure the crit effect works, because im doing crits far more than i should be

oh i read that wrong

[fierce hearth]

It doesn't reduce crit rate

Yeah

[muted cliff]

crit damage, not crit chance

im dumb

[fierce hearth]

It's getting nerfed I believe where the crit damage is scaled to distance from the target

So it's weaker the further you are away

[hasty hawk]

funny

[wise gale]

aw shucks

my gatligator synergy

[dry whale]

it is time

true melee propaganda

do you want your critical strikes to always land at full potency???? USE TRUE MELEE!!!!!!

[wise gale]

void of extinction my beloved ❤️

[main estuary]

godly killtimes 🤑

[tired adder]

didn't they use to do exact opposite?

[dry whale]

?

[tired adder]

the crits were deliberately nerfed with tru meme weapons

you didn't do double damage

[muted cliff]

so critting becomes useless

[strange cargo]

Nerf true melee to the ground

[tired adder]

also

[dry whale]

dont think thats a thing

[tired adder]

unless the falloff is super-hard

[stuck kite]

that's actually to handle an old damage calculation quirk

what it would do is suppose you have 100 damage true melee weapon that spawns an explosion on hit and then you crit
when you crit the game falsely assumes "hmm, the damage from this weapon is 200" and then applies that to the explosion which inherits the crit and what you get is 4x damage explosion

[tired adder]

oh, the pumpkin heads thing?

[stuck kite]

it was a thing just about everywhere

[muted cliff]

yardis' video is outdated already? damn

[stuck kite]

horseman's blade, stellar striker, aegis blade, lion heart, etc etc

[tired adder]

not really

unless grape bear will make crits do less damage, than normal shots

it will be a minor buff, if anything

[muted cliff]

was there another patch by the time his video came out?

[stuck kite]

this got fixed i think in 1.4.4 porting (2.0.3.1) so for a period of time i guess you could say it was nerfed

[dry whale]

I mean generally non-homing deals more damage than homing

if you can aim

[tired adder]

the potency of bonus projectiles and explosions always hitting is just very strong even with 1.25x crit instead of 2x

[mystic eagle]

It does that

-75% crit damage, effectively crits only deal 25% more damage compared to normal attacks now

[tired adder]

less damage, than normal hits, I meant

[mystic eagle]

There's plans to remove all crit from it anyway

[distant raft]

oh yeah is there any reason why chicken cannon is still a holdout

[muted cliff]

i see

[tired adder]

it has animation

[mystic eagle]

Barrel rotates

[fierce hearth]

yeah ok I went and dug up the grape beer teasers that Doze talked about. Grape Beer adds homing and makes damage scale the closer you are to the target

It's EXTREMELY important to keep in mind Grape Beer doesn't just affect projectiles, but subprojectiles as well

So projectiles that produce additional projectiles are disproportionately affected and have substantially improved damage when used optimally

Which is why the change to Grape Beer is happening to begin with

Damage focused rather than crit focused build on specific weapons that have a lot of sub projectiles are absolutely cracked with grape beer rn

So Grape Beer is being made to something that is busted on specific weapons/ammunition but only if you get close enough to sniff the boss

[muted cliff]

so it basically becomes ranger true melee

[fierce hearth]

Yup

[muted cliff]

nice

[fierce hearth]

Point Blank is BACK baby

[fathom girder]

it's reverse point blank

the damage modifier is like 0.5x-1x or something

you don't actually gain damage being up close

[fierce hearth]

It's reverse?

I thought Doze directly said it was the vile return of PB

[fathom girder]

[dry whale]

no reverse would be like frost armor or some shit

[dull heart]

it's not revese point blank it's just

[dull heart]

point blank but as a nerf

instead of point blank as a buff

[fierce hearth]

Oh ok Doze arrived to confirm

Hi Doze

Should I play Roots

[dull heart]

yes

not even a real question

[dry whale]

unbiased source

[thorn pier]

wait does it still have the crit nerf

[dull heart]

no

[thorn pier]

oh so its just scaling with how close

[dull heart]

crit nerf replaced with distance scaling damage

[thorn pier]

true melee ranger ic

so now u just have to play ranger as true melee to get the funny interactions

[dull heart]

Yup

[rancid pagoda]

damage penalty for being far but you have homing is definitely more interesting

[dull heart]

I can't believe I didn't have the idea earlier

much more interesting of a downside

[rancid pagoda]

now just add warbanner to get a higher penalty wait what

[thorn pier]

🤫

[distant raft]

what if they added triple warbanner to nuke your damage instead of dent it

[boreal pewter]

Is your damage still nerfed at least a decent bit at point blank, or is it downsideless if you're point blank?

[thorn pier]

what if they added 20% damage, 20% true damage and 20% speed to every class like old warbanner

[dull heart]

depends on how it feels in testing

hasn't hit balance testing yet

[distant raft]

true damage as in heroic damage or as in ignores resists damage

[dull heart]

spiteful candle damage class when

[thorn pier]

true damage like spiteful cuz its totally balanced

[dull heart]

They should add Spiteful Flamethrower

does 0 damage but applies stacking Spiteful Candle debuff

[hasty hawk]

rogue enchants and buff station when?

[strange cargo]

No

Summoner buffs for the next 10,000 years

[thorn pier]

rogue buff station that gives 50% stealth regen with no damage loss

[molten grove]

rogue station speculators when the camper exists..

[thorn pier]

😨

[pulsar cobalt]

gotta love ranged and mage not getting anything themselves

[fierce hearth]

Lmao

The Camper is so biased

I guess with Rogue you're already given a damage reward for standing still

But still

[dull heart]

i should rework camper

[brittle escarp]

It should also increase projectile velocity or reduce spread or something

Ammo saving is just not useful

[steady meteor]

Guys, what should I do if I log in to a friend's server with Сalamity and he has version 2.1.1, but I have version 2.1.2, but for some reason the newer version doesn't download from the workshop?

[fierce hearth]

What can you do with an accessory that's an offensive "stand still" accessory

[earnest jewel]

Tell your friend to verify integrity of game files.

[rancid pagoda]

getting the same buffs you already have is not useful

[dull heart]

have they verified file integrity? ( #help-advice-read-pins has a pin on it)

[brittle escarp]

But what about lingering projectiles

Would their damage update

[rancid pagoda]

what does the camper even do now, it doesn't retain shiny stone regen for standing still despite including it in the recipe

[fierce hearth]

Uhhhh 15% damage buff and damage aura

Plus secondary class specific buffs

That's it I think

[brittle escarp]

Would be fire in a multiplayer run as Ranger

Stand still with shroomite stealth

[rancid pagoda]

15% additive damage is like literally nothing

[brittle escarp]

One billion damage

Oh I thought it was multiplicative

Sad

[dense sundial]

Also the damage penalty is now 0.5x instead of 0.01x

[fierce hearth]

Oh wait it also disables natural regen being halfed while moving

I believe

[brittle escarp]

That’s quite good

Wait does that include regen buffs

[fierce hearth]

That might just be a confusing explanation of its buffs though

[uneven field]

its commission allow here

[thorn pier]

make the camper work like chalice

[fierce hearth]

All regen buffs bypass the regen halving while moving except for I think the shimmered heart

[thorn pier]

bam easy

[brittle escarp]

Huh

That’s why regen is so good

[fierce hearth]

Yes

Natural regen is v weak even at extremely high hp

[brittle escarp]

Yeah

You also need to have not gotten hit for like 2 minutes

[fierce hearth]

Unless you use that alcohol that makes debuffs hurt more but when they clear it gives you instantly 30 seconds of regentime

Per debuff

(regentime caps at 60 seconds)

Evenso there's really few instances where that alcohol is worth it because debuff damage scales much more aggressively than max hp

I think rev+ twins is one of the only places it's particularly worth it

Maybe deus with ambrosial

[steady meteor]

It didn't work, he reinstalled it and it didn't work too

[dull heart]

have them check their mods folders and delete CalamityMod.tmod

[raw bluff]

how do the new accessory reforges affect meta?

[dull heart]

they probably have a local copy overriding the workshop

[dull heart]

invigorating sweeps

usually

[steady meteor]

he dont have it on terraria mod folder, aswell me

[jagged copper]

your mods are usually located in the tmod workshop folder

[thorn pier]

lower tier reforges are usable

[lean relic]

the location is, okay id in other words
in workshop folder; 1281930 (tmodloader) -> 2824688072 (calamity)

[valid vessel]

i miss when warding gave like 12 def or whatever it was

[thorn pier]

7 def post dog

[valid vessel]

Used to be so good

then they nerfed every defense accessory

[steady meteor]

he fixed it somehow xd btw ty

[thorn pier]

wdym

its not really a nerf

everything was lowered

[blazing field]

its just reducing calamitys powercreep/stat bloat whatever you want to call it

cuz calamity just made everything higher

[valid vessel]

Thats what i dont get why lower everything if there just gonna scale everything down to match the nerfs seems pointless

[blazing field]

its because the powercreep itself was pointless and only a result of devs trying to balance things, fabsol randomly buffing things, having to nerf to counteract that, etc

with the stats being more in line with vanilla it means you can aslo crossmod without stuff being,

awful

[valid vessel]

That makes more sense

[blazing field]

you wont vanilla and calamity items dealing 500 damage while another mods weapon does 5

(euphemism but yea

[valid vessel]

Some of the changes they made are wack though like have you seen breaker blade or just any true melee weapon

[thorn pier]

the new true melee weapons are really fire

[valid vessel]

there cool but the damage is outrageous

[thorn pier]

which ones did u try

[strange cargo]

Probably gilded proboscis

[valid vessel]

I personally havent used them but i did a run with my friend and he was melee and a lot of them were broken

[dull heart]

HEY YALL

[valid vessel]

dont even get me started ok that

[dull heart]

ITS HERE

[strange cargo]

Ooo

[valid vessel]

that has to be a bug right

the gilded probuscis

[strange cargo]

Can I have a bite, Doze?

[thorn pier]

no that ones balanced

[valid vessel]

No shot

[dull heart]

What's bugged about ot

[silk coral]

yharon releases july 24th 2028 2:35 pm
-# mark my words

[valid vessel]

its bugged theres no way thats intended

[thorn pier]

whats the problem with it

[valid vessel]

it does like 60k damage a hit and heals 12k hp 😭

[thorn pier]

u must have another mod causing this

[valid vessel]

Only other mod i had at the time was infernum and the difficulty wasent even enabled

it was doing that though i swear my friend was using it and it was absolutely broken as shit for no reason

we literally decided not to use it cause it was outrageous

[distant raft]

inf breaks shit when the mod is enabled but the difficulty isnt

[deft lily]

woag

[tropic jolt]

how much did it cost

[thorn pier]

17 platinums

[deft lily]

before inflation

after inflation its 284783374 platinum

[fierce hearth]

what's the plan to nerf invig anyway?

Halve its effect?

Swap it for a natural regen accelerator?

[strange cargo]

I wonder if just reducing it by .1 would work

half seems too drastic

[distant raft]

how

[fierce hearth]

It's currently like 6x as good as warding in a prolonged fight

[distant raft]

you can't have partial regen

[strange cargo]

.4/s

is what I mean

bc its .5/s rn

[distant raft]

you cant have partial regen

1 is the minimum you can change it by

invigorating is already 1 regen

[strange cargo]

I thought invig was .5

am I tweaking

[fierce hearth]

Yeah it's .5

[grave geyser]

no doze has said making partials is easy enough

[distant raft]

band of regen is 2 regen

formerly 1

[grave geyser]

1 regen is equal to 0.5 hp/s life regeneration

[strange cargo]

ohhh

[fierce hearth]

Yeah the secret stat of Regen is 2x what the hp/sec says

And can only be increased in whole numbers

So uh, yeah

poots

Can't halve it

[strange cargo]

cant do anything to nerf it then right

guess we gotta buff the others

[fierce hearth]

But you can turn it into a natural regen accelerator which is far more granular

[strange cargo]

powercreep here we come

[fierce hearth]

So it can be nerfed

[strange cargo]

natural regen fucking sucks

[fierce hearth]

Invig can make it better

It'll also more definitely separate it from Warding as Warding is Always valuable, but invig is only good if you get hit infrequently

[distant raft]

until you boost the fuck out of it with accel multipliers like fearmonger set bonus

[fierce hearth]

nodnod

And there's a precedent for adding a fractional value to natural regen bc Vital Crystal increases the speed at which your natural regen increases by 20% (crimson armor does so by 100%, and they stack additively)

Note that doing that will not increase the amount you heal, just how quickly you max out your natural life regen

[grave rock]

Whos yharim

[stone fiber]

#lore-discussion

[thorn pier]

some guy

[fierce hearth]

There are also base regen multipliers that are already in the game, but I think they would be too small to make a difference and still be balanced as an accessory prefix

[brittle escarp]

Not important I don’t thin

Kinda a minor character

[thorn pier]

the typa guy that dies in ep 2

[brittle escarp]

Exactly

Very little impact on the story

[muted cliff]

meteor shot doesnt like grape beer

well it does but it dont home twice nvm

[lean relic]

woofwoofwoofwoofwoof

[thorn pier]

try crystal darts

[lean relic]

I am hungry but I must sleep

[muted cliff]

oh right dart weapons

[thorn pier]

crystal for multitarget and ichor for single

[muted cliff]

yea i saw yardis' video on it, he also used dart weapons, thing is i still gotta kill wof because i started the world in hardmode

[thorn pier]

yardis isnt a good guide

[muted cliff]

he tried to make a guide this time instead of just being glasscanon ranger class

saying that post ml you usually want first and second slot to be wings and dash, rest is either 3 defensive and 2 offensive, or 2 defensive and 3 offensive

[distant raft]

big lack of mobility ngl

[kindred fox]

The guide was with infernum in mind

[distant raft]

still a pretty big lack of mobility

[kindred fox]

What would you have instead

Ig remove one of the 3 offensive for the insignia

[distant raft]

also three offensive is definitely too many

not enough decent offensive accessories to be worth running

youve got your post dog stat stick, arc flash ring, and really nothing else worth using

[kindred fox]

True especially post ml but you can mic whoever you want there aren't that many accessories in the game to warrant a guide since it can be mostly pooled into offense defense and mobility

Mix*

[kindred fox]

There's the class specific stuff

[fierce hearth]

That's the "stat stick" mentioned

[dull heart]

Probably

[dull heart]

idr something like $100 or so

For the tier I got which was the highest one

This is too big to use as a pad for my desk 😭

[fierce hearth]

There was a conversation here earlier after I mentioned that which pointed out how you can't halve its effect bc it's already the smallest value it can be (you can technically go smaller but then you run into rounding problems)

[dull heart]

We can

[tropic jolt]

3d terraria is horrifying

[dull heart]

We just add a Regen float that just adds to regen whenever it's 1 or more and then removes by the added value

[fierce hearth]

huh, you can just

stick a float into the regen calculation?

I thought it'd be a frustrating in-line change

[dull heart]

no we can't but like

[halcyon seal]

Even in the artwork, bone serpents and hellbats won’t stop harassing you

[dull heart]

We can add our own float to add 1 to regen whenever the float is over 1

[fierce hearth]

Hm. I guess that works, that's really funny though.

[dull heart]

If we add 1 to regen every other frame that's effectively 0.5 regen

[wide raven]

Realistic wall of flesh can't hurt you it's not real. Realistic wall of flesh

[fierce hearth]

Probably the only concern then would be making sure it works correctly with damage/regen blocking debuffs, but that should be a simple enough thing

[dull heart]

that would work naturally

as long as it's placed in the right spot

[rare tinsel]

send astrum deus propagabda

[deft lily]

i agree

[rare tinsel]

astrum deus x storm weaver yaoi

[fathom girder]

Deus is too good for storm weaver

[solemn crest]

Astrum deus x eater of worlds

[vivid hemlock]

this is evil

[deft lily]

hes so fast that it looks like hes in place

[strange cargo]

He’s so small I could squish him

[deft lily]

ill kill you

🔪

[vivid hemlock]

dinner

[deft lily]

ill kill you too

!!

[strange cargo]

Shut up buzz ill kill you

[deft lily]

[fathom girder]

would tuck into a sling and snap it across a field at mach chicken

[deft lily]

[obtuse hawk]

wires

[deft lily]

legend has it that if you utter any name in cal update talk without pinging them said person magically spawns in

[fathom girder]

fabsol

[deft lily]

bigots dont count

[fathom girder]

oh ok

[mystic eagle]

GP

[fathom girder]

Doze

[deft lily]

TYESKI

[obtuse hawk]

squidward

[deft lily]

not a real person

[mystic eagle]

Hey it's me squidward

[deft lily]

hate to break it to you

[obtuse hawk]

1984

[fathom girder]

easter bunny

[deft lily]

im gonna hold ur hand when i say this

[fathom girder]

🥺

[mystic eagle]

Bringer of Chaos treatment

[deft lily]

barack obama

[fathom girder]

you JUST said people that don't exist can't be called in here

[deft lily]

what..
no, dude...

😔

[fathom girder]

if squidward can't exist neither can barack obama

[deft lily]

a fair compromise

[tropic jolt]

John

[halcyon seal]

this image tricks your brain into thinking its moving

[thorn pier]

https://tenor.com/view/cube-optical-illusion-illusion-rubik's-cube-two-gif-3980475891858894456

what...

[deft lily]

embed fail

[distant raft]

first good post in cut

[thorn pier]

its an illusion

i never sent an embed

[deft lily]

😨

[stiff light]

i hate cut

[late eagle]

I love cut

[stiff light]

long live cst

[late eagle]

Nah I have allergies

[late eagle]

I see what you did there

[stiff light]

what

[late eagle]

Cat

[stiff light]

cst

[hasty tangle]

[late eagle]

Why this adorable being must make me so sick

Am I cursed or something

[late eagle]

Are u trying to kill me

[hasty tangle]

[stiff light]

who up killing

[late eagle]

Cats kill the shit out of me

[stiff light]

r u allergic

[late eagle]

Yep

[thorn pier]

me wbu

[stiff light]

im chilling

no killing

[thorn pier]

boooring

[deft lily]

calamity mod

[young notch]

calamity update get your facts straight

[lyric vortex]

Yo did you kill scal yet? I saw you kill exo mechs the other day

[young notch]

I always kill SCal first

So yeah, that playthrough's wrapped up

[lyric vortex]

Oh

SCal feels like a better closer in the current state of calamity we have right now but I understand because she's a lot easier than exo

[young notch]

SCal is a much more climactic fight at the moment tho, so saving her for last feels better in that regard

[lyric vortex]

Btw idk the lore too well but is yharim the next boss or are there other bosses to be added other than him?

[earnest jewel]

Yharim is next.

[lyric vortex]

Oh nice

[earnest jewel]

Calamitas is the second strongest human, not including you.

[young notch]

Yharim is next yeah, but they want everything else in the mod to be good first

[hasty tangle]

yharim is next, but yharim is also last

last priority, that is

[lyric vortex]

Okay idk if this is a hot take but why does Calamity keep making drastic changes to itself?

[earnest jewel]

Because Fabsol made the past decisions.

[young notch]

And then they might explore other bosses like Noxus or Xeroc, but that's not even gonna be considered until Yharim is in the game

[hasty tangle]

cuz cal is in a pretty bad state rn

brainstorm was a big step in the right direction

but its still a long way to go

[wary igloo]

cal as it stands is okay but needs a walking cane

which

aint ideal

[dusk bronze]

that

[hasty tangle]

tmod hitler

[deft lily]

i mean

can't say alex is wrong

[hasty tangle]

did fab annex austria while i wasnt looking?

[deft lily]

yes

[hasty tangle]

damn

[lyric vortex]

I feel like I could totally get behind Cal being its own game if it didn't make big changes (mainly the like remakes/rewrites and stuff)

[hasty tangle]

busy man

[deft lily]

its jover

[earnest jewel]

Check the news, doesn't matter what channel!

[earnest jewel]

Reign of Yharim.

[deft lily]

he also failed art school a few decades prior

[young notch]

But yeah, you're right. A lot of people think Calamitas is one of the few good bosses in the mod.

I think she's cool too, but OH MY GOD the random exploding fireballs piss me off. I do my best to keep them in mind and anticipate their explosions but I wish they emitted some sort of pulse that you're more likely to see offscreen before they explode.

That's my only gripe.

[earnest jewel]

They slow down before they explode.

[young notch]

offscreen

[earnest jewel]

If they're offscreen they're further away which means there is more spread.

[rose laurel]

SCal isn't a bad fight but it pisses me off because every time I look at it I'm just

Man

It could be sooooo much better

[earnest jewel]

She could have a gun.

[young notch]

That is correct yeah but they can still be startling

[deft lily]

the only good part of the scal fight is the brothers phase
aka the part of the fight fab didnt code

[rose laurel]

We feel the same thing way about Providence

[hasty tangle]

i agree, although i do think cal has more pressing issues than scal

[wary igloo]

get used to it, scal fight design is frozen in ice for the foreseeable future

[rose laurel]

The fight is fine but it can be so much better

[hasty tangle]

and i assume youd agree on that too

[lyric vortex]

Are there gonna be more like maybe not necessarily NPCs but other characters to be added like the person who's like the dryad?

[dusk bronze]

me 2

[rose laurel]

Yeah I do

SCal is very low priority

[earnest jewel]

Statis, for a start.

[rose laurel]

Yeah

[lyric vortex]

He's the guy from the ninja belt

[deft lily]

i think every boss in cal should be turned into horrible hog

[earnest jewel]

Yeah, it's his belt.

[rose laurel]

We want to add a bunch of NPCs, I can think of at least like threeeee?

[hasty tangle]

they were made by one, does that count?

[rose laurel]

Even if not NPCs

[hasty tangle]

(well, most of them were)

[lyric vortex]

And braelor is along with him?

[earnest jewel]

Gay people and the crabs?

[lyric trellis]

Save us statis and your signus quest

[rose laurel]

At least characters ya interact with

[young notch]

I do agree that SCal could have cooler attacks

[earnest jewel]

You gotta save Braelor.

[wary igloo]

providence would be atleast 30% better if the healer guardian just hanged himself

i hate dps floors

[rose laurel]

*Herself

They're lesbians smh

[wary igloo]

providence would be atleast 30% better if the healer guardian just hanged herself

[hasty tangle]

i do find it funny that scal still has retinizer ai remnants

[deft lily]

no comment

[young notch]

lol

[lyric vortex]

Wait okay I'm kinda just not lore retaining that well but braelor and statis are the ravager skeletons right?

[rose laurel]

No

[earnest jewel]

No?

[young notch]

It only makes sense to want her to be cooler since she's so damn important

[lyric vortex]

Aw wait then who are/is ravager?

[earnest jewel]

Ravager is made of Agnus Immolatus and his followers.

[lyric vortex]

Oh

[rose laurel]

Agnus being the God of Sacrifices

Who DIED

[earnest jewel]

In a sacrfice, unsuprisingly.

[deft lily]

doze being held back by chains to prevent him from implementing the cathedral

[rose laurel]

And then his followers tried reviving him but it didn't work

And then 💥

[wary igloo]

i unfortunately misread agnus as angus 🥀

[young notch]

Oh good lord

[earnest jewel]

That's the God of Bovines.

[wary igloo]

moo

[deft lily]

[lyric vortex]

Aw

[stiff light]

burger

[earnest jewel]

Much like brain scooping, necromancy isn't an exact science.

[lyric vortex]

Also all the lore items are from Yharim's perspective right?

[earnest jewel]

Yeah.

[rose laurel]

Yeah

We plan on eventually reworking how they work but they're still gonna be the Yharim Hotline basically

[lyric vortex]

This is probably picky but I wish they were like pages of a book instead of small paragraphs

[hasty tangle]

i wonder if he'll narrate his own epitath

[young notch]

Regarding SCal I do really like the brothers phase

[hasty tangle]

or if the lore items will be gone by then

[young notch]

that part’s cool keep doing stuff like that

[lyric trellis]

Yharim phone

[wary igloo]

"hey yharim what's your opinion on pbg"

[hasty tangle]

Yhar-one, or Yharon for short

[earnest jewel]

"Write 'Scourge of the gods' on my tombstone."
"No."
"Curse youuuuu...."

[young notch]

Awakening?

[deft lily]

"hey yharim what is your opinion on marginalized communities-"

[lyric trellis]

We are number yhar-one

[deft lily]

💥

[tropic jolt]

ten thousand bees

[wary igloo]

i support genocide but i will never enslave a bee

[earnest jewel]

That will not look good on paper.

[rose laurel]

Not gone but like

Very much changed

[earnest jewel]

Yharim Whatsapp.

[lyric trellis]

They're lucky there's no Bee God

[wary igloo]

genocide has a 100% approval rate after you kill everyone who doesnt approve

[rose laurel]

We still wanna keep the idea around since getting to talk to Yharim extensively throughout the game is important

[grim pecan]

yet

[deft lily]

[earnest jewel]

What dragon made Bee God?

[hasty tangle]

so he wont just be a super mysterious illusive figure you blindly chase? sounds interesting

[lyric vortex]

Actually, I like that Scal is kinda like (aside from the mini bosses) is a relieving fight it's not too hard like exo mechs but not too easy either like dragonfolly

[hasty tangle]

is that planned on being added before yharim, or is that scheduled to be in the update that adds him?

[earnest jewel]

Probably long before.

[rose laurel]

Before

[hasty tangle]

k

[rose laurel]

Waaaaay before yeah

[lyric trellis]

fan theory about qb having absorbed an auric soul and that's why she's so big (and not because of that just being how bees work)

[hasty tangle]

good to know

[rose laurel]

Kinda still this tho but more like

Idk how to put it

[kindred night]

what if the terrarian had whatsapp

[rose laurel]

I lowkey got no clue how to put it

🥀

[kindred night]

draedon: collect my schematics

[deft lily]

tragic

[grim pecan]

this is super secret dev plans do not leak: QB will killsteal yharon from you and absorb the auric soul. you find the shattered remnants of the exo mechs and scal running away, if you die to QB it deletes your save

[deft lily]

no way

[lyric trellis]

Yharim loses because of his depression at the prospect of having to kill a bee

[rose laurel]

Like Yharim is still Yharim so there's a wild power imbalance between his relationship with the player, but it's not like ya chasing him, it's more like he's just talking to you throughout your journey and grooming you to follow his cause

[deft lily]

^

time to bring bee gun to the yharim fight

and beenades

[lyric vortex]

Btw one last question, is Yharim a big guy? Like bigger than lunatic cultist?

[hasty tangle]

has it been decided roughly when (in progression) he'll start doing this? it doesnt seem like he'd care too much about some random prehm player joining his cause

[rose laurel]

He's big

Like

2,70 meters

[earnest jewel]

After a few bosses you're already doing superhuman feats.

[lyric vortex]

Idk how much is that in feet so I'm gonna assume 4 blocks tall

[rose laurel]

That's 9 I think

[lyric vortex]

Oh damn

Nice

[hasty tangle]

a block is 2 feet

[rose laurel]

It's complicated but it's more subtle

[deft lily]

whos the shortest character in cal...

[dusk bronze]

pablo

[late eagle]

Shroomble

[hasty tangle]

horrible hog

[lyric trellis]

You, the player irl

[late eagle]

[rose laurel]

There's no point in progression where he starts doing it, he's kinda just doing it all the time by just his rhetoric

[earnest jewel]

Calamitas is 5"4'.

[rose laurel]

"Gods bad me fallen hero" and all that shtick

[deft lily]

bold to assume that my height is even measurable........................

i simply exist without any logical explanation

[hasty tangle]

and im guessing you see that rhetoric by killing bosses?

[fierce hearth]

Yharim grouchily complaining about the good ol days on his porch

[rose laurel]

And other stuff

[lyric trellis]

That's everyone here I fear

[deft lily]

"yknow calamitas, back in my day"

[earnest jewel]

Yharim doesn't have a whole lot else to do.

[rose laurel]

The biggest change the lore item rework is gonna bring is that it's not gonna be just tied to bosses

[dusk bronze]

🔥

[deft lily]

nah just me

[rose laurel]

The most obvious example would be the biomes, like

[fierce hearth]

Yeah always felt odd how certain ones dropped 2 bc of their location also being lore heavy

[deft lily]

this is because i said so dont question it

[rose laurel]

Yeah you just get those when you enter the biome

But I also wanted some for like, example

[earnest jewel]

You find a ruined structure. The rock phone glows.
"I remember that, it was a pizza place, me and Yharon would..."
He continues talking about it for three hours.

[rose laurel]

When you meet an important NPC like Braelor or Statis

[dusk bronze]

ooh

[wary igloo]

ok but can the npcs hear the voice too

[rose laurel]

Nah

[wary igloo]

for an awkward vc call

man

[earnest jewel]

Only if you turn on speaker mode.

[wary igloo]

hey guys its me ya boy

[dusk bronze]

(meeting statis)
fuck that guy he tried to kill me
how is he here anyway
tell him he's a bitch

[earnest jewel]

"Hey, let me talk to Statis for a second."
You hand the rock over for a minute, then Statis hands it back.
"He just called me... every slur."

[rose laurel]

And obviously I wanted some for like

If you help Amidias

He's obviously gonna be a bit mad

[lyric trellis]

Yharim whispering dark thoughts into your ear is funny as hell to imagine it's peak

[rose laurel]

But yeah

[deft lily]

terrarian sleeping at night just for yharim to enter his mind and start talking about how he loves bees

[wary igloo]

kill amidias
kill amidias
kill him now his back is turned

[fierce hearth]

Beats giant clam: "yo what the fuck you stupid bitch put him back"

[lyric trellis]

"Kill him with rotten eggs now"

[deft lily]

kill amidias
sso forever cancelled

[dusk bronze]

"douse him with slagfire"

[hasty tangle]

until he respawns like 13 seconds later

[heavy parrot]

hey i saw that calamity will receive an insane update

[wary igloo]

we need a super flymeal that deals % damage to npcs

[heavy parrot]

that have a date?

sorry for bad english

[lyric trellis]

Yharim backseating would go crazy

[deft lily]

if it was from a video by someone of the name mura i would take it with a grain of salt.

[rose laurel]

Tl;dr main aim of the system is to make it less boss-centric and expand it beyond that

[earnest jewel]

Last month.

[deft lily]

assuming they aren't talking abt brainstorm

[heavy parrot]

its fake?

[hasty tangle]

should be interesting to see it come to fruition

[dusk bronze]

it will release february 6th 2026

[heavy parrot]

ah

[rose laurel]

Brainstorm is Calamity's most recent update and it released a month or so ago

It added basically everything we've worked on for the last 2 years and reworked DoG and Rev+ BoC

[heavy parrot]

i played calamity like last week

so i probably played this

[rose laurel]

Yeah ya did

[lyric trellis]

Idk who would do this but if someone could temporarily cut off your connection from Yharim to tell you something secret then that'd be a very cool moment

[rose laurel]

We got more stuff cooking but nothing insane atm

[hasty tangle]

unless they were on a legacy version of tmod or smth

[heavy parrot]

oh you are a developer, so cool

[rose laurel]

Yuuup

[heavy parrot]

i will pay more attention to this channel

[rose laurel]

Tbh I prefer if ya can't do that

I think it helps sell better that Yharim is a bastard

He ain't gonna respect your boundaries

[earnest jewel]

"Hey, yo it's me, ya boi Xeroc, uh, like comment and subscribe."

[deft lily]

a lot of the stuff he talks abt relating to cal is straight up inaccurate most of the time

[rose laurel]

If you ever end up regretting carrying him around he's stuck to you now and I think that helps a lot with the mood that Yharim is just an oppressive asshole

[dusk bronze]

true

[hasty tangle]

what if he was like fanny

[rose laurel]

Dear God

[vivid hemlock]

fanny is a devil

[deft lily]

fanny?

[hasty tangle]

from ccr

[deft lily]

oh

[heavy parrot]

i dont know who the video was but it was probably this guy

[earnest jewel]

What if whenever you sleep you wake up to a bunch of missed calls from Yharim as he gets more and more parasocial with you.

[dusk bronze]

the demon of babylon

[heavy parrot]

my plan was wait for the supposed update to make a new character

[deft lily]

the update came out like a month ago as we said so u probably played it already

[heavy parrot]

ye

[deft lily]

i see

i wouldn't know cuz i will never touch ccr even with a ten foot pole

[lyric trellis]

Yharim would always be there, but I mostly mean someone with extreme power (like idk scal or something with silva in the abyss) could temporarily block his vision to tell you something that they don't want him to know and it'd get really intense ig, unsure if I'm misinterpreting your response but Yharim would always be there outside of that short little moment

[earnest jewel]

"Yharim is listening..."

[rose laurel]

Oh that'd be awesome in that case yeah

Specially since y'know

Perfect guy to do that is just around the corner lmao

[lyric trellis]

"Yharim is listening"

[earnest jewel]

"Ok, look, before I left, I put parental controls on his phone. We got about ten minutes before he begins spamming for more screentime and the notifications are REALLY annoying."

[lyric trellis]

wait

[deft lily]

true?

[dusk bronze]

?

[lyric trellis]

You just said this idk what I'm doing

[earnest jewel]

ELECTRO, of course!

[pulsar cobalt]

you say you think gods are good to an npc and then in the top left of your screen
"? Yharim will remember this."

[deft lily]

😨

[earnest jewel]

You called Amidias a slur.
Yharim will remember this.

[deft lily]

anyway

[rose laurel]

I'm imagining the player talking to Braelor about something and pulling that move

[deft lily]

uhh

[rose laurel]

It'd be fire as hell

[deft lily]

i sleep i think

yeah

goodbye

[earnest jewel]

Actually, idea, while in the Distortion, Yharim gets cut off.

[dusk bronze]

or the signal is just super fucked so it's like he's breaking up

[earnest jewel]

Signus then hacks your phone or something.

[dull heart]

hi

Don't ask how I typed that badly

[pulsar cobalt]

yot

[dull heart]

Terraria the board game is very fun

I just murdered King Slime with bladed glove it was peak

[dusk bronze]

🔥

[dull heart]

Turns out it's super easy to make close range true melee fun

just make the game turn based

I got so lucky with both getting bladed glove and my dice rolls so I literally killed it in the minimum possible attacks

(2 turns, one attack per turn)

(phase transition makes them invincible the rest of the turn)

[lyric trellis]

I’ve been having ideas about post-ml being good in the future and how I feel like Braelor would be the key to getting to fight the last few bosses, where you kill DoG, find him in the distortion and he’ll tell you things and give you stuff that lets you go on to fight yharon (probably technically able to be fought earlier but that won’t be the intended progression) and maybe a little yharim elite soldiers event and eventually exos and scal and yharim himself. But now I’m just ideas-guy yapping long after the topic already passed oops sorry

Oh god, what if Yharim become like that dialogue in unreal engine slop games and he just said shit like, “Focus, M” the entire playthrough

[gloomy grove]

all roads lead to rome

[polar tide]

dies

[dusk bronze]

revives you

[tropic jolt]

all roads lead to expedition 33

[fierce hearth]

Is Toadsworth there with you?

God fuck please god no

[deft lily]

bruh

average stereotypical npc dialogue

[lapis oak]

why you purple

[lyric trellis]

Why not

[grim pecan]

why aren't you

[lapis oak]

doesn't look right

[brittle escarp]

I actually cringed reading this

Good job

[lyric trellis]

Good

[brittle escarp]

Its freakishly accurate

[brittle escarp]

🔥

Homework sucks. because of this, we should blow up the Sun

[dusk bronze]

[lyric trellis]

Deep philosophical argument

[brittle escarp]

My quantum professor assigned a project and number 1 out of 4 took someone 15 pages of math

I am going to shooted myself

They also formatted their work weirdly tho

[eager bone]

fire these dogwater lore writers bro you mog them

[grim pecan]

i think i'm too old for this sentence

[eager bone]

67

[deft lily]

never speak again

[eager bone]

https://tenor.com/view/brendan-fraser-the-whale-fix-whale-6-7-gif-14161792768231404947

[deft lily]

embed fail

[eager bone]

Pictured: Yharim in the final moments of his Godseeker War weighing up the options of either imprisoning 50,000 people to kill some guy or pillaging another 100 villages for a slightly better weapon (c. 700YA)

[eager bone]

This pic goes so hard. Feel free to screenshot

how draedon felt designing one of his best war machines based on some old guy's curse

seriously why did he do that . was the old man's curse even known

[dry agate]

is yharim real?

[dusk bronze]

no

calamity is an illusion

[dry agate]

is this a dream?

[deft lily]

i knew it

failed on my mission 2 sleep

😔

[thorn pier]

SSO: Yharim is scrapped

[twin mural]

goddamnit

whe eyes separating from the wall took me off guard

[tropic jolt]

dradon

is kil

[hushed crown]

I swear burrower has two bestiary entries

[twin mural]

nvm

[dull heart]

Huh? It shouldn't, that's odd if it does

[hushed crown]

Its one that I can't fill in but it's between the wild bumblebirb and ebonian slime

Checked on recipe browsers bestiary thing and between them both is an entity also called burrower but without drops or a sprite

[twin mural]

That challenge is over

Now i won't have to worry about any restrictions when facing bosses

[dull heart]

interesting

[vagrant wind]

I mean this is the case for most worm enemies

[hushed crown]

For ones not in the bestiary index yeah

It's the only one that I think has that issue because the only things I haven't indexed are the primordial wyrm and that one

[vagrant wind]

🤔

[agile latch]

pitoresco

[hoary merlin]

Did they just make the astral biome now is always guarantee spawn next to the dungeon?

btw I just notice that Astrum Aureus now drop a new rogue weapon, pretty cool

[vagrant wind]

no

[dusk bronze]

it always spawns on the same side of the world as the dungeon

[vagrant wind]

what he said

[dusk bronze]

not new

[earnest jewel]

Mechanical Bosses likely predate Clothier being cursed by like, decades.
Skeletron Prime was designed to scare people, and skeletons are spooky.

[solemn crest]

Clammy

[hoary merlin]

yeah I know, but I have been playing for to run now, and both of them are spawned next to the dungeon

so I was just curious is they actually made it like that or my luck are just weird

[hoary merlin]

never seem that before, probably just remake or something

[distant raft]

what weapon are you talking abut

auroradical throw and leonid progenitor are both pretty old iirc

ok yeah neither got reworked in 2,1

[hoary merlin]

yeah the leonid progenitor

[grave geyser]

you have not seen it before because it is a 10% drop

the item itself is very old

[hard hearth]

[tropic jolt]

erm I think you mean hf-04

[solemn crest]

Ok I’m putting this here because it is an update about A calamity

Chuck Norris died

[deft lily]

whar

oh he did die

[thorn pier]

chuck norris aka yharim died

[strange cargo]

Thats a fitting title

[deft lily]

welp hes a orange orangatang supporter so idrc

[strange cargo]

But he isnt quite as bad as yharim

[deft lily]

Or was

[strange cargo]

More like he was a propagandist for yharim

[deft lily]

mayhaps

[thorn pier]

need the real yharim to die

[strange cargo]

Theres two yharims in the world

They are sharing his power

[earnest jewel]

Inside you there are two Yharims.

[strange cargo]

The big yahu and the orange poopy guy

[thorn pier]

we need yharub

[low elm]

i find it funny that in classic mode the sand cloak is completely useless until post-skel

[distant raft]

how so

[polar tide]

cant dash

[pulsar cobalt]

it needs a dash acc right now

[distant raft]

ah so bugged

wait why skeletron doesnt soc work

[pulsar cobalt]

classic mode

soc is an expert mode item

[distant raft]

ah right

soc is expert

[polar tide]

sock 🧦 is expert ☝️

[distant raft]

still i wouldve assumed it would work with default dash

[polar tide]

it does not and idk if its suppsoed to

[strange cargo]

Who plays classic mode calamity…

[distant raft]

description says dashing and not dashing with an accessory so like

[thorn pier]

soc 🧦

is expert 🧑‍🏫

[polar tide]

there a doug 🐕 in your bib cage 💀

[dull heart]

It probably should

I suspect that it just checks the wrong variables

It should probably check "time since last dash"

[polar tide]

i agree

[lapis oak]

I mean yeah otherwise the Expert DS drop is totally useless

imagine needing another item to actually functions

[thorn pier]

couldnt be slagsplitter

[young notch]

expert… nintendo ds,,,?

[dull heart]

slagsplitter doesn't need another item to work

It works on default dash

[thorn pier]

whos crazy enough to do it without a dash

[dull heart]

I mean

You don't have to actually touch the enemy to use slagsplitter

Just get close

[strange cargo]

Already dmd staff mail

Sigh these things come so often

[solar hare]

MR BEAAAAAAAAAAST

[vivid hemlock]

mr breast

i need money

[strange cargo]

Damn you mr beast

[lapis oak]

omg Dark Blue Murasama in chat

[solar hare]

oh yeah i can delete messages now

omg 2026

[lapis oak]

omg

[thorn pier]

mr beats i need monkeys

[polar tide]

i need monkeys so fucking bad.

[strange cargo]

Didnt you know the doctor said no more monkeys jumping on the bed?

[solar hare]

NFT merchants:

[tropic jolt]

did the 30-50 feral hogs steal the apes

[solar hare]

damn ihvanet seen this image in like forever

and i used to see it all the time

[young notch]

NFTs were 2021

I miss when that was the big controversy before all this AI garbage

[strange cargo]

Yeah

[distant raft]

shoutout to how the mee6 nft gacha is still a thing

[cinder hearth]

Can we replace Thanatos with ice worm from AC6

I think it will be a change that benefits everyone

[pulsar cobalt]

can you also have the veil have a thingy on the cd rack so you know how long it will last for

[dull heart]

no promises

mostly bc sprite needed

Unless it already has a cooldown for when it ends

[dull heart]

Bloons players:

[lapis oak]

it already has a cooldown for when you can use it again

[dull heart]

ok chill

[lapis oak]

you can just use that for the duration like with the Omega Blue's one

[dull heart]

does that cooldown begin when the sand disappears

or begin right away

[lapis oak]

@pulsar cobalt answer it

I haven't used new Sand Cloak in ages (1 month)

[pulsar cobalt]

when it disappears

also yes theres already a cd rack icon for sand veil