#calamity-update-talk
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horrible changes
horrible...
the gray background before was better for the eye than this beige thing
who made this change
can anybody tell me what "reborn into a beautiful lizard" means for the desert scourge section of the future content doc?
is it just a teaser for desert scourge not being a worm or smth
it is becoming a lizard
it is becoming a lizard
lizard
suspiciously pinecone shaped lizard
it still acts like a worm I think
heresy
i mean, at least it isn't just a worm
desert scourge evolving 400 million years late
when does the regular person npc spawn in
when a house is available
I lonvr storm weaverb

Storm Weaver can stay a worm so long as either it is implicitly the same species as DoG, or has a design that is dramatically changed such that there is no visual correlation
does it have to be hardmode or any special like that? ive had plenty houses open and havent seen him. im js playing normal 2.1.2 calamity if that matters
the devourer is a member of a species?
no it doesn't
i was gonna make a "there's more of them?" joke
Several jokes came and went that I couldn't say here
Anyway, if Storm Weaver stays a worm I demand squiggles and wiggles and coiling to summon storms
idk if i'm braindead but if the weaver isn't the same species as DoG i feel like it could work as a wyvern
what is the "regular person npc"
prisma's juicebox npc
sells the calamity alcohols
cause crafting them is too hard ig
oh iām sorry about that
its fine
youll have more luck in #calamity-addon-talk or #help-advice-read-pins
does this technically count as an addon? whatever idc
it's a calamity-friendly version of alchemistnpc
with less cheat items
no knockback immunity potions
or dodge potions
alchemist npc is calamity friendly
It's not ideal
it's outdated and can probably even progression break now
Thanks to alcohol changes (or maybe it doesn't even sell them)
i was taking "calamity friendly" to mean "works with calamity"
how many siriuses is good for a consistant laser beamage
it's "doesn't crash with calamity" but like
the more Sirius you have the more lasers you do
yes
my only issue with prisma's is that the materials NPC doesn't sell unicorn horns (for some reason)
is yharim is planned to be added in next 5 year
i want to use other summons other than 13 slot sirius or however man i have
Laser takes 50 starburst, each slot is worth 0.33 sb/s
even tho she sells literally every other material
it feel to weird to don't have proper final boss
More is always better. Only spend on something else if it's substantially stronger or has a powerful utility
If you use sirius you either want to use only one slot or all in
i wish
he will release b4 the year 3k
Middle ground is not usually worth it
Shoot!
Because of Sirius scaling formula
whats a good summon to use With it
see how it curves
ten million thousand siriuses
i just want to play fight with me before i get graduated from university (which is in 6 year) and get a job
what stage, dog?
isn't sirius max like 10 slots
no
Sirius constellation won't visually change past like 12 but it still can add more
oh nice to know
then Virid Vanguard
i also dont wanna use Virid Vanguard bc i hate spawning more
LMAO
also is DoG will get a resprite for phase 1 it look to thin and attacks don't match texture
sob
then eth subj
really
vanguard is definitely better on infernum dog especially because he plays so close
so you get good axe usage
But yeah Subjugator is good and
Wait actually
probably but this will also be in 10 thousand years
DoG will get a resprite but not for a while bc it's Hard and will likely be designed for DoG's "final" rework
for both of my infernum playthroughs (on summoner because i chickened out of rogue the second time around) i played omega blue + sirius
it look to weird is there a way for make DoG use infernium sprite but fight like vanilla
it was awesome
No no, either go 15 sirius or 1 sirius and 14 eth subj
there's probably a mod for that out there somewhere but i wouldn't know what it's called. sorry
i c
infernum DoG's sprite is only for infernum DoG
thank you
but yeah if you look hard enough it's probably there somewhere
ugh
if you have infernum enabled will it change the sprites if you havent actually gone infernum mode ingame? idk
no
Infernum uses a different sprite for a differently sized DoG
i see
doesn't infernum also re-size thanatos
wow yeah this ethsub is fuckin nuts
no idea
30k dps fuck yea
literaly only boss i prefer vanilla is DoG but it's sprite killing me
It's an old sprite but it's not THAT bad
either inf thanatos is actually fast or basecal thanatos is suuper long
There's way stinkier sprites
how many segments does thanatos have
others attack actualy match
his body and his mount attack or his lazers
or he cracking reality
you can probably find like ten million mods that resprite dog even if they're not specifically vanilla
i mean infernum
not vanilla
Lmao
I presume his body doesn't match epic shadered lasers or epic background portals things
there are texture patchs for mods?
I do think the fidelity on his new vfx is better yeah
calamity texture pack
for calamity? absolutely
I don't personally mind it that much, and it's not like it's gonna change any time soon
im talking specifically mods here resource packs wont affect modded content
i have to find one
There are mods that can re texture other mods yes
also thank you guys for creating such a good mod i have 270 hour in terraria but 240 of them is calamity
But they're not super common. Perhaps a valiant warrior will make a temporary DoG sprite
mod that reskins dog into a vanilla wyvern would be peak
i hate them
I have like 1k in both
i thought i was the addicted-
was polter ever resprited?
i have
idk if anyone on the team would make a temporary dog sprite
it still looks... 1.3 vanilla, if you know
i dont know if "temporary dog sprite" is even something we'd allow internally
i have 1k hours on terraria on my dad's steam account
or we can just wait till a proper one come
Extremely unlikely, that's why I said valiant warrior and not fish mines survivor
i'm talking about calamity devs here
like i don't think dog can get the primordial wyrm treatment
Yeah DoG ain't getting a new sprite 'til his "final" rework is done
dont put final in quotes you will curse us
similar to how exos won't get their theme until they're reworked
final final final rework
You and I both know that he will get a wonderful rework and absolutely nothing will be wrong with it
aren't this was final

Calamity GOD: Final Birth by Yharim 1.II
is there anyone actualy trying to kill him
no the devs had to rework him temporarily because his fight was so bad
distortion dog better be the last dog we ever make i swear
Nope! This was a major retool of the existing fight, but the plan is to eventually make an entirely new fight from the ground up
current fight feel way to good escepialy at death mode and malice
yes
i thought this was finale
Yeah they wanted the fight to be good, which it is
it is very good but it isn't our final vision for the character
"Hey guys I've decided to cook up this new DoG rework to try and improve the fight further and make it more engagi-"
And then they're placed on a crucifix
well i have around 80 year lifeteam yet i will be waiting
But the plan is to make it incredible, to fit DoG being one of the most important fights in the entire mod
aren't that idea of fabsol got trashed
?
that big purple one
There was a previous sprite by Heartplusup but it was Too Big, and ultimately abandoned
this is the one i was talking about
placed on a crucifix by the community or by the devs? because i could see both happening
Yes
wasn't part of it being scrapped also because heart left the mod
remember, that average terraria resolution is still 1080p
All three
"FINAL" "FINAL" "FINAL" "FINAL" "FINAL" "FINAL" "FINAL" "FINAL" "FINAL" "FINAL"
That wasn't canned by Fabsol as far as I am aware, but was actually decided by the dev team together that it was too unwieldy to use
also since yall are making a whole dimension for DoG will the fight be centered around having infinite flight
It's the final Terraria update all over again
well not just DoG but yknow what i mean (hopefully)
i hope yharon get some love his resprite is there for 3 year
lol
I want to drink the distortion juice
at this point it will get re re sprited before geting re sprited
I think I might be completely cooked I thought this was a crow with weird features for like a quarter of a second
that's already happened several times
Yharon has been in resprite hell for far longer than that, is his current resprite 3 years old already though?
me too š
what the fuck
i thought it was this
no it was first posted last year
Pattern seeking brain
how did MULTIPLE of you think that was a crow
well ugh that resprites were very close to each other
tire
OK in my defense I wasn't looking at the photo directly at first and it was in my peripheral
And the cutoff angle due to the white laptop made it look like a beak
kinda
wait aren't it
NO????
it's a monkey
THAT IS AN APE
but this is a crow-
yeah
nevermind i am out of topic
a lot of people thought it was a crow
no that's an iguana
sob
I am referring to this.
i got it
because birds are better than bees, or something
bjrd
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this apple isn't bad
i'm bees
are they plans for end game bee guns
Bees are a favorite topic of the Clupdate chat
we got for prehardmode and hardmode bees
that will be my dev item
We want bees so bad
anyways. as with many other future updates, dog's eventual distortion makeover is way too far off and way too hazy on the details for us to give any definitive plans on what the fight will entail
doze mentioned how Yharim has power of thousands of nukes thanks to bees
awh i wanted to make calamitas taste bees
so maybe auric bee weapon is possible
I keep asking for bloodstone botflies as a bees-alternative that is hivepack compatible
i am not into lore much
you should be
as long as it's good (which it will be i just know it) everything will be okay
it's peam
peam
i am intrigued by this
I think this is very much a safe assumption.
i would read books of calamity
lore is getting reworked
there's a giant google doc with almost all known lore
not exactly
i want a proper storyline not a story doc
i saw something about the lore items being changed a bit
for your safety, this is not a proper lore
the actual lore is still the same
instead of an item dropping from a boss it's a message from yharim or something
just the presentation is getting better
yes
yharim is definitely not composed of bees on molecular level
I don't think anything approaching the size of HPU DoG will be in the mod. The scale was truly terrifying.
starter bag item that can communicate with yharim
this is not a thing we can instantly fix at all but our next major content update has a big fat juicy nugget of lore content and i hope people will be excited to experience it
not starter bag
didn't the segment count have to be reduced by 20 because it was so damn big?
probably just laying on the ground
well i think librarys for game would be good
like some ruins where it tell story
azafure:
the forsaken archives and sky islands will reportedly have books
wait what
can we have a book-
content š¤¤
removing all books
like a book tell storys of yharim's crusade would be cool
including the vanilla ones
water bolt is no more more
Maybe, but I don't even think the length is the biggest issue. It was so fucking wide that you'd have to move a bajillion light years per second to dodge it unless it was absurdly slow.
which.. the devourer is meant to be fast
it would be the same length as current dog
fat DoG
slither io attack on dog when
kid named laser walls
isn't there a youtube video out there
are there worm transformations planned?
new dog will absolutely not be as big as hpu dog that shit was fucking ridiculous
where someone stitched hpu DoG's concept sprite onto regular DoG
can it be atleast a bit bigger so it don't look funny thin on phase 1
i need to find it
once again predicting the scrying stone update
in all honesty i cannot believe any of the devs ever looked at hpu dog and was like "yeah we can create a fight around this"
This is what I mean by width. That thing would be a third the size of the screen, lmao.
gameplay was not considered at all
during the design process
Well, it's not going in the mod, so don't worry.
peak game design
The HPU sprite is genuinely a work of art, I love it.
it's very good
it's beautiful but oh my god!
can it be a painting?
also even more impractical
i loved look when i saw it on mura
devourer of FPS
i did not expect it to be that big thought
top 10 ideas of all time
painting the size of the dungeon
also i don't think this count as pixel art at this rate
can someone post the image of hpu dog size comparison with dia yharon
it's fucking absurd
I think a house that could fit this would be too big to be valid housing.
have it be like those dumbass calamity's vanities pets that cover your entire screen
btw is murasama reworked i did not test brainstorm yet
no
that's a while away
dude i can't fucking WAIT to get to hardmode in my 1hp infernum run
grape beer everclear oughhh š¤¤š¤¤š¤¤š¤¤š¤¤š¤¤
if every pixel is intentionally placed then it still counts as pixel art. it doesn't suddenly not become pixel art once the sprite is big enough
grape beer
iirc there was larger worm in other mod currently
i dont remember the name, but that worm's design was green and dark worm
the housing is for devourer, peasant!
that actualy explain how he devour gods
i swear there was a better version of this
dark green... larger than DoG..
with more than just the mandibles
if there is i haven't seen it
THE FUCKING HEAD IS ON PAR WITH PROVIDENCE. IT'S SO STUPID I LOVE IT.
the thing in my terlit this morning
this might be a hallucination moment on my part
anyone know about this
i swear there was image
i have no idea what you're talking about sorry
probably not what you're looking for but i found this on google images
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is calamitas fight also planned to be reworked
yes, also forever away
it is probably one of the most boring vanilla
like i bring infernium for 2 main reason
first one is calamitas
which calamitas
if fabsol didn't exist and ozz was the owner from the start we'd probably have yharim by now
not clone
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brimstone witch
Scal does not need a rework
but this is a perfect world we're talking about and THAT ISN'T A THING
i wasn't aware we were planning on reworking scal
from what i've heard there might be some touchups
bc she still has retinazer ai
I feel like the beauty of this sprite would fall apart as soon as he'd need to turn around
not saying yall *have to * but her fight's pretty lame for a final boss..
Yuuuuuup.
SCAL HAS RETINAZER AI?
Yeah Scal might get some tweaks but she wont get and does not need a rework
wait what
Yup
not surprised
one dev shared the video
it's subtle but there
this feels like forbidden knowledge
Scalās fine for the most part but I do get annoyed at the randomly bursting fireballs offscreen lol
But I learned thatās just something you have to keep in mind at all times
considering signus has corite ai
of SCal, CalClone and Retinazer together
and SCal mostly works like Rev+ Retinazer
she feel kinda boring in my opinion
the ret ai would be much more obvious if we weren't locked in a box
exo mechs offer far more fun
š š š
Uh
anyways i wouldnt mind giving some love to scal's fight but i doubt we're going to rip it apart for a ground up rework like doze did with dog
and EVEN THEN!
these dorks are getting a real rework
SCal is a perfectly fine boss, this Retinazer tidbit is really just fun trivia. There are certainly bosses much more in need of a rework.
That is a very unpopular opinion, lmao
EXO STILL NEEDS A REWORK
Exos are HATED here
hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby
i think scal def needs an ai overhaul (as in, herself)
everything needs a rework 
This is why we should reuse ai for every boss
calling scal boring but exo mechs fun is the most upsetting thing i have heard in a while
to really divorce her from her retinazer roots
How bad it gotta be with exos for me to always use a set order to consistently beat it
early game bosses feel normal since our weapons and mobility bad
okay i know why scal still has ret ai
but- thats what i feel like
Idk I only remember infernum exos
she kinda used to be an eye
Theyāre kinda fun
Infernum Exos are fucking wonderful.
and fab is a bum who wouldn't let bosses get changed even if their sprite was overhauled
like scal
I understand why people would call exos fun but atm itās only the concept of the fight thatās fun
Except for Ares' sword attacks.
Exos are potential boss
i love infernum exos besides ares solo phase
@ashen pivot a lot of bosses, even now, were originally clones of existing vanilla bosses
calamity is the potential mod
in fact
what's this
all of the worm bosses..
i gave up after 30 try
hpu DoG phase 1 concept
KNEW IT
oh cool
crazy statement
sprite itself look amazing
i've never seen it
I find Exos fun but they are very much a random bullshit go type boss.
its really hard to actually find bosses that have unique ai
and by that i mean its just fucking exo mechs
My issues with Scal are more aesthetic than mechanical. Scal's attacks feel extremely underwhelming for one of the most powerful beings alive. They're mostly reused from earlier bosses (old Calclone and still with Brimmy), which severely undercuts how powerful they feel by belonging to an earlier boss alone, but on top of that they also just don't LOOK powerful, whereas Exo mechs absolutely sell power even if they feel horrible to fight mechanically
What the helly, is this what fandom DoG is based on
yes
yesh
im serious thats probably the only boss i think that actually has straight up unique ai that isnt derived from any existing boss
I donāt remember any of basecal bosses
If scalās base moveset (including sep) got reworked then after that sheād probably be good to have no changes for the rest of the modās development, besides projectile resprites and stuff
yes, even thanatos the worm boss... has unique worm ai
is clone will get a rework or atleast turn into actual clone it look weird
even then.. ares stays in the same place
thanatos does whatever the fuck thanatos does
i HEAVILY disagree that exo mechs sell power rn (so many little baby shitlet projectiles. that chain lightning attack from ares is a fucking joke) but i would love for scal to get visually overhauled
Brothers are unique
Design changes are considered
imo i still err on the side of "Scal could do with a doze-style rework" but ya
what in the FUCK
Oh right the shitlet beams
I forgot about those
Those suck
and exo twins act like ares but bob up and down
Ah yes, devourer of game design
every single boss in the mod will eventually be overhauled except brain of cthulhu, providence and scal
This wouldāve been so fun to fight
It's like, four times the width.
why providiance?
ā
her fight is good
It already got reworked
and nobody wants to resprite her
i usualy outpower her with strong build i never enjoyed her
Why not
bizarre user
Providence is tied for my favorite fight in the mod, along with the Profaned Guardians.
visual updates not reworked
Iām also a prov enjoyer
I always had fun with provi
Bro eats a good portion of your screen, you sure?
prov and scal are fine rn, but once the reworks for the others bosses get through, i reckon we'll probably look down upon the two
i am a anahilite fight enjoyer
I think one of most embarassing things about exo mechs is that supposedly called "mayhem" phase is most boring phase of the fight because you just run to the left
or thats how her name written
"oh boy, i sure do love existing!" x12 providences said
the DoG:
anahita
you just run to the left during all the fucking phases š
ty i love her fight
A boss that covers a third of my screen and turns around to cover another third is very unappealing.
Not unlike Brainstorm DoG where itās challenging but still learnable, which minimizes the bullshit
anyways look at this 10/10 tierlist because I'm so awesome
i mean it's alright
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Some things are slightly different gameplay wise too so close enough 
i love malice DoG
yes, but mechs during mayhem are legitimately lobotimized
besides scal and providence these are all completely valid takes
This and their damage is reduced to compensate for danmaku clutter
arent profaned guardians slated for a rework too?
exo mechs upset me so bad i need exo mech rework ASAP
possibly
THE PATIENT NEEDS EXO MECH REWORK TO LIVE
then provi's state will really stick out
Deerclops above Yharon what are we doing
Unless thereās something Iām missing, not really?
Mayhem phase is cheesable yes
yharon isn't good
can we get that mushroom crab get rework first-
FUCK YHARON I'M TIRED OF IT BEING CALLED DECENT FUCK THE FIGHT overhaul the entire thing!!!!
it feel VERY lame to fight it
it's a fun fight but completely detached from what it should be
i dont remember these bosses enough but i know uh
have you watched Yardis?
i think its perfs
it's such fucking glooooorpshit
if we rework fucking crabulon before exos i'm killing myself
Regardless of if he isnāt or not deerclops is significantly worse
Tbh current deerclops also sucks fucking ass
The shadow hand attacks are unfettered ass
but crabulon need more-
NO IT DOESNT
but he look lame!
I like the crab
i feel like crabulon is one of the lowest priorities
HES FUCKING CRABULON HES ALLOWED TO LOOK LAME
Ah, damn, no perms, I always forget
also his ai is that bad the second i get early game vampiric knives i can kill it
where are you getting these
No
Its a dead crab 
go the extra mile and kill crabulon from the mod 
HES JUST A BIG DUMB PIECE OF SHIT CRAB WHO CARES!!!!! THE EXOS ARE ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT FIGHTS IN THE ENTIRE GAME AND THEY FUCKING SUCKKKKKKK
but crabs are majestic normaly
arent these drawings from a guy who got booted and THEN got revealed to be a creep
Pretty sure this was bird concepts
but what about fables version of crabulon?
Yeah
yes
I do
wait a minute
brain of cthulu got rework and less important who care importance
brain of cthulhu was one o fthe worst bosses in the entire mod which is why it needed a rework
real fuckign shame ngl because whenever they did designs that werent... poorly proportioned women, they were always fucking baller
Brain of Cthulhu was a health hazard and the worst boss in the mod
Crabulon is also one of the worst bosses I fear
guys what about uh
Who?
crabulon is far worse or eater of worlds i can literaly beat eater of worlds with slime pet
crabulon!
Dragonfolly :)
i dont think you understand what i mean by worst
what about Dragonfolly :)
Incomprehensible discussion
health hazard?
Play Fables if you want Fables Crabulon.
he should get. Dragonfolly!
(infernum btw)
Yes
what Crabulon does to you irl
now for that, check media tab of Cal twitter
Hey guys did you know every boss fucking sucks and we are just gonna rework whatever the hell we want in any order we want?
fables crabulon is weird it is fun but i can't tell what is going on

okay but when you do it can you also make sure the names are funny
like BS
Providence is a good fight
In infernum
Idk about basecal
what kind of gymnastics is this its like mad readable
i dont care what bosses get reworked i just want the names to be funny and the fights to be Awesome
Thank you for this valuable insight, now rework every boss by next Friday
thank god my reading comprehension came in 0.1 seconds before i slandered your ass
what is purpose of old duke actualy what he did on lore
he's a slave owner
Mothron
because otherwise i would've been like "Jee, thats a stinky opinion"
that's it basically
I am the biggest Infernum Old Duke defender. I think it's almost an acceptable fight.
can't wait for everything to come out btw!! keep doing what yall are doing it's awesome!
Old Duke is dragon hitler (lore wise)
but knowing infernum od... YEAH....
Okay how about crabulon, signus, dragonfolly, cv?
thats it?
genuinely enjoyed infernum dog more than that fucker
Dashslop
for now
Bro that's exactly the thing everything fucking sucks š
probably the most obnoxious fight ive ever fought
I didn't say it was an acceptable fight.
anahita
Just almost.
Why is everyone like trying to say the worst should be prioritized anyways?
im never ever ever coming out of my room if we put time and effort into reworking Crabulon before exos
yeah that fight also sucks
i enjoy it lot-
storm weaver best boss in the game
the water elemental should do more than throw shitty raindrops at you
because the shit stinks a lot
The worst fight needs to be reworked, you know, the Worst One
if yall reworked bosses like this i don't think calamity would ever be updated again
the other elementals dont do shit though!
so make dragonfolly into crabulon?
basically most boss fights are suck
they all suck!!!!!!
hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
no what if Crabulon was betrayed and abandoned for 10000000 years
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Exo Mechs are a priority because they're literally the final fucking bosses of the mod, are fucking atrocious, and are also the easiest to get the ball going because they need way less assets and other content for it
what if crabulon was removed
Oh true
kiri what
Pengolin I will explode u
Slime god
THANK YOU

or
permafrost would starve to death without crab's delicious meat
horrible hog..
the hog..

the blight.....
i was so deeply offended by the prospect of crabulon "needing" a rework more than exos that i started yelling
okay but is this a teaser for next content update
That... is fair
can we get devilish swine in the mod too
needed is true
take everything away from the exo mechs, and the only issue then is that they're a mech bosses clone.
yeah but like he's got annoying mushrooms
Exos being one of like 4 cal bosses where a resprite isnāt need to actually start shit lmao
those are way worse than "hold the left key"
its okay if its not but this will influence my actions next
I think we should make crabulon worse. Idc. Fuck crabulon
crab sucks ass but id happily rework exos first ngl
they are already peak.......
Ah, so that's what it's about
whats stopping yall from removing it outright 
like really
Like the Exos don't need a resprite or any extra content around it to make the buildup better, we could just sit down one day and make it right the fuck now lmao
crab has the virtue of being forgettable asf he can rot for a while ā¤ļø
You know what.
is it that easy?
I think we should remove every boss except Brain of Cthulhu, DoG, and Exos.
What.
Context acquired, yeah definitely prioritise exos first
i wish thanatos got resprited tbh
EXACTLY

I mean no but it sure as hell is easier than everything else
ive been very nitpicky abt thanatos's sprite
only thing this stupid ass "crab" has going for it is the rage upgrade and the fungicide. please remove him.
This is the canon
since its not shaded right
especially after seeing skarn's concepts
they're so peak
i dont even fucking remember crabulon exists until im like "oh i didnt get the rage upgrade" near the end of pre hardmode
i mean shes fine as is
because he is thin?
people dont even remember crabulon for the fight they remember it for the music that doesnt fit the fight's tempo at all
are they even doing something
yeah i think most people just fight it for the rage upgrade
Like you know why Signus isn't a priority? Because he needs a fucking new sprite and has a whole ass sidequest attached to him š
she? thanatos is a she?
can you rotate him 180 degrees rq
posting here why not
true...
it
signus sucks anyway he can rot in his spawning biome
as it is not alive
why is he an isopod lmao
the thing is people said needed most not easiest
theyre robots cuh
ok i'll shut up
I don't think the gender of a metal laser snake matters at all and people can call it whatever.
i was gonna defend myself but now i got 2 people proving me wrong
i do like the idea of the exos constantly adapting while you fight
i hear a lot of people calling thanatos a she
Y'all were literally hogging the shit out of Carny for saying Exos should be prioritized
that's why i asked
It has no conception of gender, I think.
ah yes now we need a gender for robots
like if they get low they abandon armor and go for a gambit
wait, its canon that they develop miracle matter?
yea its the result of them overheating
woke calamity theory
...hookay then. then heres my new crackpot idea.
Sure, go ahead
We can wait
a crude unstable version of miracle matter, yes
yeah i have around 80 year
the last mech standing in the fight gets a miracle matter transformation
happens when they overheat yes
you can see the miracle matter roots form in ares' gores iirc
literally just the gauss nuke
is that why they get desperation attacks (at least in infernum they're proper)
to really hone in the last stand, "going all out" vibe thats suggest
I mean, after evey boss and biome has been reworked, Yharim and the Dragon aerie will be added
is it actually just that š„¹
wotm does that i think :)
no
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So we have somewhat of a good timeline to see
I CAN TELL
i thought it was all of em damn
infernum does that then :)
BECAUSE I'VE SEEN THE VIDEOS. IVE PLAYED THAT
I mean, this is literally what's happening. They're doing it in whatever order they choose and we're waiting.
infernumland is right there
I thought the Terrarian was the first to synthesize miracle matter tho
i am waiting for noxus
be grateful. if there was more miracle matter in their designs we'd need to worry about that when miracle matter gets redesigned
well guess fucking what you cant misinform me because ive also fought that
the actual useful version
the first to stabilize it
what

Don't try to tie infernum into the lore
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just make it rainbowy
my bad g
e'eryone loves rainbows
they do use miracle matter in that fight but not exclusively in their final phase
make them puke a beautiful waterfal
They are the first one to make it last enough for a crafting, Miracle Matter is unstable
Anyways this conversation gave me a fucking aneurysm lowkey y'all actually made me go insane like holy fuck
Why does the player combine all those bs materials instead of just fully looting Aresā corpse smh
In what world should we prioritize Crabulon over Exos man
That is why I don't appear here often
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infernum is a great example but its completely unrelated to, you know, anything with basecal
That's the reason
you shaved him wtf
because it's super shitty miracle matter
how terrarian know this things to start with my guy start with bows to weapons can destroy worlds
why is it naked
its called miracle matter because its a miracle they didnt accidentally atomise themselves making it
n. no thats 90 degrees
Damn you scrolled back

next update is storm weaver overhaul btw
Tbf, I think it was mainly one person saying that.
No I've been here for all of it
an awesome one? obviously......
An assumption of going bottom to top
thats fair
It seems like
Truth puke
Damn Draedon is washed
i'm gonna assume you're lying and wait for the update to come out and get surprised if it actually is the storm weaver overhaul
(Infernum did that
)
actually yknow what this proves my point
byeah its more just "whatever we decide" and not strictly going in progression order
ysee how his shading is on the left and not the right
im lying
thats my nitpick with it
Maybe not. I'm tired and don't really care about what people think of Crabulon.
yes i hate it
its not shaded properly if its flipped
it's so dumb
I mean the difference between Infernum and Calamity is that it doesn't have to worry about taking out the trash
is it also the reason why weapons do not look metallic or technological at all?
whar
What
If things in general were only done in progression order then pml would be rotting for several more years and god knows that canāt be kept up
yeah š„¹
yea mm weapons are kinda just like
you threw weapons at a blob of very dangerous Thing
and it made That
Exos vs Crabulon is basically just comparing the biggest and most noticeable pile of shit vs the stinkiest one
its why they look like both of those with a giant tumour of materials mixed in
its a reasonable take because crabulon is also a pretty bad fight
ESKPESHUALLY once you see fables crabulon
-# and realize just how much of a fuckign fool fabsol was for choosing his ego and control over letting his devs have fun devving
leaving post moonlord rotting for several more years would make ME PERSONALLY very very very sad so we cannot do it. We cannot do things that make me sad.
signus is the stinkiest
ego ā¼ļø
i mean yeah
if the world ran like this we would have achieved something
have both Crab and Exos updated in the same update?
The workload would be too much
nah crabulon is signus at second place
this is what im saying! you get it!
i lowkey forget how shitty of a fight signus is cause im used to infernum
drugs update
the Weed update.
Spine of Thanatos
adds Weed. makes you High.
okay, "not metallic" is not correct, but still, why they look like tree/ent branches?
he is so utterly bald
dog and brain of cthlhu amidias both got good reworks, and a few bosses also got touch-ups to make them more exciting
Oh nah they laced my health potions
they grow
Which like yeah Crabulon stinks a lot but also it's not an unavoidable giant pile of trash that every player has to go through every single time
Terrarian.. time for your ultimate challenge, smoking my draconic blunt
don't do this
I think Roxy's crash out perfectly illustrated why this was not reasonable take.
oh my GOD
Bro Imma be real that's a dumbass take
Debating over whatās the biggest piece of trash like there isnāt at least 10 valid answers š„
please do not restart this debate for the fourth time
so, maybe sure exo mechs might need a rework sooner, but you could probably fit in a rework for crabulon in the same major content patch
yharim be like: "terrarian. you have come far. your final challenge: puff puff pass."
miracle matter set isn't meant to look technological cause miracle matter is a hodgepodge of random bullshit you collected over time that somehow stabilizes into smth via exo prisms
okay
dude FINALLY i can use this
"Specially compared to Fables Crabulon"
My brother in Christ, there are 500 Calamity Boss Rework Mods. Everything compared to Calamity sucks ass
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crabulon also is not genuinely such a bad fight that it unignorably fucks up basically the climax of an established character's arc
this debate will only continue once i actually get around to making my personal miracle matter concept
still makes me sad that The Transformer does not have a post-exos upgrade
it is Literally a blob of shockingly dangerous gloop
MIXED with the most dangerous gloop Ever.
true
the technological exo weapons you're looking for would be the ones the exos drop themselves
I don't want to be rude but uhh, are you sure?

seu you should update the yharon history chart now that the sprite's public
forgot terra edge used to exist
guh
green
until then please take a look at amidias's reaction and take after him, please.
where is his mouth.


Yea you guys should resprite the lunar fragment weapons while you're at it
he need not one, for a god need not feel hunger
okay here's something more grounded in reasoning
why "elemental" weapons are trees
I don't want to insult the creators
Like if you compare any Calamity boss to any other boss made by someone with half a frontal lobe it's gonna suck so like yeah
Thank you Sagi
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just questioning why is it like this
is it because life alloy?

what's the story of terra edge btw
why does it exist tho
Because
filler content
Because Fabsol is dumb
uh because it's the end of a branch
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what are those new vanilla sprites?
it existed because for a while, there was a calamity-exclusive crimson variant of the night's edge
it exists probably
The answer to 90% of the incomprehensibly stupid things Calamity does is because Fabsol did it
isnt it incredible just how much of our job is basically unfucking this mod after 9 years of being pumped full of tmod hitler's shit
who knows why!!
those are from the calamity texture pack i believe
so for parity, apparently, there also had to be a 2nd combination green blade
TMOD HITLER
Nights Edge = Corruption
Bloody Edge = Crimson = Terra Blade 2
ah ok gotcha
Tmod Hitler
this chat is spiraling
even though... you can also make it from night's edge
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we must control ourselves.
Fabsol
I mean, Fabsol is dead meme exists already
imagine a world where yall just got to build this mod from the ground up without any fabsol involvement.
focus on Hog.
These calamity base stat buffs are starting to get a bit silly
pin this
It's also like. Seeing people say that they want Fables Crabulon is wild because they can just... play Fables.
this writing is fire
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how many fucking acc slots is that
is the calamity texture pack still being updated?
But at the same time, Calamity wouldn't really exist without Fabsol
Do not pin me calling fabsol "tmod hitler". Please
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Pin it
prison with wide prison bars image or whatever
you're right..
so i'm gonna make calamity 2
today
No.
i am bookmarking it
You calling him that is basically asking for a pin
LOL?
but then why pbg arsenal weapons or omniblade don't grow into trees with crystals as leaves?
Horrible Hog tomorrow
sighs
we live in a democracy

devilish swine today
did you forget minion slots?
BEGONE.
Also what I meant by that was that like, Infernum just got to do its own thing without having to worry about providing a fully fledged experience like Calamity because its scope was much smaller
true
Sorry lol I can undo that if you want
Fooouull beasts
bwu
i would prefer if you did because it kind of distracts from the pin directly below it which is much more important and i actually want people to read
This is the summoner rebalance
ofc
True, to some degree
Sunken sea psychosis
yeeessss.
We do a little trolling
summoner rebalance buffs
LUCILLE?!
thank you
Oh hey lucille
honestly i do feel that would've been the smarter decision but we were a little too late to that
the rot
Yeah, exactly. I don't like Calamity bosses so I play with Infernum. It's a wonderful world out here. I'll stop playing with Infernum when we get more boss reworks.
now we gotta clean up 9 years of bullshit

Buffed Snapthorn due to Fluffy nerfing your mage accessories
i still haven't forgivent them for that
true
give it like two days and i will, but not rn
me when i drink several inferno potions in 2 second intervals
Honestly from a story perspective I'm glad I got this clusterfuck ngl
you guys are free
yeah
why this gif has red juice
A lot of the things I have made for Calamity's story comes from dumb shit that shouldn't have ever existed but it does anyways and we gotta live with it
Iron lung