calamity-update-talk

[opal kettle]

how many nerfs?

[fathom girder]

you can check changelogs on the site

but

[dull heart]

it's like 6000 lines long

[fathom girder]

in regards to nerfs, bosses were mostly nerfed to keep things in line with vanilla and to make cross-mod stuff way less unbalanced

it's effectively unnoticeable in most regards

and then a lot of weapons were buffed or reworked

calamity's rework is really fun

really good with yoyos

well. ozzathoth

[fresh pendant]

Ozzathoth my AoE champion

[fathom girder]

ozzathoth spite candle my beloved

[tribal isle]

cathedral before deltarune chapter 5

[solemn crest]

Clearly, you haven’t used The Oracle (it also sucks)

[high lance]

i need true melee guide

[fathom girder]

Incorrect

Oracle obliterates exos and is consistent vs scal

[solemn crest]

Auric gaming mouse

Is good?

Since when?

[fathom girder]

The former is due to its debuff while also having functional aoe, and the latter is due to her being easy to hit and the hearts are also easy to aim at with its aoe

[cinder hearth]

Well, it doesn't make it any more satisfying to use IMO NGL

It's good

And I know it

But still

[fathom girder]

If you go scal-exos, you can use calamity vs exos to have an insane addition to your point and click circle of death

[solemn crest]

Omfg I never thought about adding calamity to yoyo build…

Are there any accessories like that before scal or no?

[fathom girder]

Nooot really unfortunately

[hasty hawk]

Donor item moment

[solemn crest]

[hasty hawk]

Oracle used to be peam like 3 years ago but it aged like milk

[solemn crest]

I think I may do Infernum yoyo only 🤔

I like the microwave because it’s silly

[thorn pier]

yoyos bad

👎

[fresh pendant]

ozzathoth better in both cases though, right?

[fathom girder]

yes

because it's a dev weapon

[fresh pendant]

Oke good

[fathom girder]

oracle is a progression thing

[fresh pendant]

Lowkey wish there was a Zenith recipe yoyo

[solemn crest]

… shadowspec weapon vs auric weapon

[fathom girder]

tbf triactis's hammer is weaker than some auric weapons

because lmao

[solemn crest]

This is true

Although it also got reworked to be more like galaxy smasher right?

[fathom girder]

yes

[fresh pendant]

oh its ass?

[fathom girder]

for now

the devs know it's in a weird state rn

[solemn crest]

Idk I like the galaxy smasher line of weapons

They’re very silly

[fathom girder]

's not out of the question to expect a rework that'll make it fit what it's supposed to be better

currently it feels like a reversion instead of an upgrade to the smasher tree

[solemn crest]

I mean tbh everything’s gonna feel weak when exoblade exists

[fathom girder]

I very rarely ever make or use exoblade

though I can't imagine it's a bad weapon

[wary crest]

Exo blades okay

It’s mainly carried by it being homing

[fathom girder]

Exoblade really should be calamity's terrablade

instead of murasama

[unique warren]

Honestly I feel like it shouldn't

Like I would agree if not for Ark here

[fathom girder]

oh y'know that's true

and there's also the uhhhh

fuck I always forget- ORDERBRINGER

orderbringer is also very main character pilled

[fresh pendant]

OATHBLADE BETTER

We need a shadowspec upgrade for DD

[boreal pewter]

Idk I think the best weapon is Feralthorn Claymore

[unique warren]

Both Ark and Terrablade are combinations of two weapon "trees" (even tho excalibur isn't really a tree)

[fresh pendant]

Its so peak

Make the throws a bit faster

[fathom girder]

feralthorn is still in calamity wtf

how did THAT survive the purge

[boreal pewter]

Ore set privilege

[unique warren]

Not for long lmfao

[fathom girder]

tragic

[boreal pewter]

The same reason any part of cryonic gear exists

[unique warren]

I can't wait for every ore except like hydrothermic to get fucking nuked lmfao

[boreal pewter]

That’s the day yo-yos die I think (like every ore set has a yo-yo)

[fathom girder]

a bittersweet day

[unique warren]

They should prolly add some more to compensate

[fathom girder]

I only wish for some of the existing yoyos to get burning revelation style reworks

[unique warren]

I'm unsure if yo-yo progression in this mod has any big gaps tho

[wary crest]

Remove yoyo’s from the game to compensate

[fathom girder]

real

[boreal pewter]

I want to make yo-yos good, but we need a more flexible base class so I can make them do actual interesting things

[fathom girder]

wdym by flexible base class?

[boreal pewter]

I can only do burning revelation so many times

[fathom girder]

I have some ideas for yoyos that I can toss your way

if you wish

I really wanna help keep yoyos alive in some regard

[boreal pewter]

Making a yo-yo do anything besides go to your cursor is very difficult right now

[fathom girder]

I see

[unique warren]

I think an issue that cal will quite repeatedly run into is being somewhat limited by how vanilla handles things

[fathom girder]

One of my ideas was like. can you do anything with the string?

[unique warren]

Like, even if you make all the cal yo-yos cool, the vanilla ones are still lame

[thorn pier]

what if a yoyo had inversed controls

just to make it more annoying to use

[wary crest]

Make a Scal enchantment that’s a yoyo version of tainted and puts whatever weapon on a string

[fresh pendant]

no

[honest vine]

Oh my god! I love hawk too!!

[boreal pewter]

I’d like to. The other hard part of yo-yos is that they all have to be compatible with yo-yo glove (and eventually magic string)

[fathom girder]

oh yeah..

I mean, I'm glad you have them in the back of your mind

I was worried cal was gonna leave yoyos to the wayside lul

[boreal pewter]

If I can make manual implementations for those on unique yo-yos it will be helpful for making varied yo-yo effects

[fathom girder]

good luck in doing something like that

[unique warren]

And like, would the mod rework vanilla yo-yos too or would they just keep them as is and have a clear difference in quality

[fathom girder]

I would LOVE to see what you could cook up

I know doze had a cool idea for magic yoyo bag with obliterator

where the obliterator's little teleports would disconnect that yoyo and throw out a new one

[boreal pewter]

We’ve moved away from most vanilla changes, so I don’t think they’ll be changed beyond use time or damage (or yo-yo speed in this case, just to do balancing)
There were originally plans to change all vanilla yo-yos to be unique though, ancient plans

[unique warren]

That's a shame

But also, kind of necessary

[fathom girder]

vanilla yoyos are simple but effective

can't really complain about em tbh

[unique warren]

You 100% can

[fathom girder]

leaving them alone is the better plan, I agree

[boreal pewter]

Kraken shooting out tentacles, Chik shooting Crystal shards on hit

[unique warren]

Like I'm fine with them not being complex but literally 2 of them having any special effect is wild

But yeah, calamity can't really stretch too far into vanilla stuff like that

Which is unfortunate cause there is a lot to fix

[fathom girder]

when it comes to vanilla weapons that are simple but effective

I'd rather leave it to relogic

[unique warren]

I mean not even just that

[fathom girder]

they clearly have an eye out for that kinda thing

[unique warren]

I mean shit like how mana works

[boreal pewter]

(The hm progression change in question)
But I 1000% think that should be kept

Even if it’s a pretty major vanilla change

[fathom girder]

hm progression is cool, it fits how calamity structures the game

[unique warren]

It does

And it's far more likely that another mod will mess up calamity's progression than the other way around, so it's not too bad with crossmod

[boreal pewter]

We just need to convince Red to implement it into base Terraria

[fathom girder]

luh mao

it wouldn't fit vanilla imo

vanilla's progression is really really freeform

[unique warren]

This is true

Until Plantera

The actual solution would have been to not make cobalt strictly worse than adamantite for example

[barren nacelle]

Quagmire rework NOW

[fathom girder]

quagmire

I'm down for the ore yoyos to get axed tbh

[unique warren]

Give Adamantite more broad usage but maybe make Cobalt a set that prioritizes movement speed

[fathom girder]

most of them are just so boring

[barren nacelle]

Creates a swamp around the yo-yo or some shit

[boreal pewter]

It needs a post ML upgrade, True Quagmire

[fathom girder]

See that's a bad hole to get stuck in

[unique warren]

I feel like I could make smth like this into suggestion

[fathom girder]

yoyo reworks just adding an extra projectile is lazy

[barren nacelle]

Unironically considered making a pml quagmire upgrade for Hadopelagia

Then I sat and thought “what the fuck am I doing”

[unique warren]

Depends on the yo-yo but if that's all they do, ya

[fathom girder]

I didn't realize yoyos in the backend were a pain in the ass to work with tho

[unique warren]

I had a really fun Eye of Cthulhu yo-yo rework

[unique warren]

Like, you make it to where every like, 5 or so hits it gets enraged, turns into its mouth form, and starts moving by itself and dashing

Maybe not 5 that's kinda low but you see what I mean

Anyways yea I think I could make some really cool suggestions for early hardmode ore armors

But also, that doesn't really apply much here since it does have the rework so... whatever, I'll probably suggest it for Fargo's Souls or smth

[fathom girder]

xyk mentioning yoyos put me at peace tbh, I've no reason to go to war for a bunch of yoyos getting axed lul

[unique warren]

😭

[barren nacelle]

I think it would be cool if Quagmire had a growing aura similar to the Oracle where it created a slowing radius of toxic mud or some shit

Give quagmire sage poison

[fathom girder]

See but that's LAZY that's just another projectile

making the yoyo BIGGER

[unique warren]

Just tying perennial shit to Living Shards is kinda the play isn't it

[fathom girder]

When I think yoyo reworks

I think somethin' like a random thought I had for Fault Line

where if you hit a tile hard enough, it creates a large explosion or geyser that spews out lava

[unique warren]

I think stuff like this is pretty cool

[fathom girder]

because that'd be similar to like

the walk the dog move when buskin'

[unique warren]

Yeah that's neat, idk about practical but pretty neat

[fathom girder]

It's just an example

to point out that there could be more to it than adding a projectile on top of the existing yoyo projectile

[unique warren]

Agreed

I think with vanilla's yo-yos, more simplistic stuff is def the answer tho

Like making it so Chik lets off crystal shards on enemy hits

[solemn crest]

Is there a yoyo that just sits inside of the target and doesn’t bounce off of them? I feel like the bouncing is what makes yoyos kinda yucky

[azure oak]

replacing perennial with living shard in life alloy would make the name actually make sense

[fathom girder]

This is also a thought I've had

like uh

having a yoyo that pierces instead of bouncing

[solemn crest]

Yeah, I think that would make a fine yoyo

[fathom girder]

cuz yoyos only bounce, it's just that the speed on the post ML yoyos makes it effectively irrelevant

[solemn crest]

Imagine a piercing yoyo on dog like that would lowkey feel really good

[fathom girder]

with spite candle, I bet yeah

[strange cargo]

Could say its bc the yoyo is really dense for pierce

[solemn crest]

Or it just has like a lot of razor blades on it

When you pull it back it inflicts bleeding bc holding it would hurt

So you hold it out like as long as possible

[ashen ginkgo]

Yo guys, dunno if its been asked already but will calamity update to 1.4.5 in the near future or is this still very far away? Do we know something already?

[unique warren]

Not how it currently works but I feel like this would be a no brainer for sulphurous grabber

Like, make it actually grab the enemy

[fathom girder]

Fully dependant on when tmod goes to 1.4.5

[solemn crest]

It’s still very far away. tmodloader has to update first and that typically takes several months

[fathom girder]

We don't have a time for it

[solemn crest]

But once tmodloader updates to 1.4.5 I believe cal will update like right behind it

[unique warren]

• devs being unsure about what to do next from what I've heard

Fact check me on that tho

[fathom girder]

devs being unsure about what to do next for what

yoyos?

[strange cargo]

🪨

[solemn crest]

They did it with the Draedon Ranger weapon in pre HM

[fathom girder]

yeah doze mentioned that when he last discussed it here

[unique warren]

I must say, I'm quite satisfied with current yo-yo progression rn

[solemn crest]

I don’t think he’s talking about a content update, just when cal ports to 1.4.5

[fathom girder]

OH

my b

[strange cargo]

Stoned for misinformation

[unique warren]

It's pretty streamlined even post-ML

[solemn crest]

But yeah, cal won’t update to 1.4.5 until tmodloader does, which typically takes several months

[ashen ginkgo]

Thank you sir, have a beautiful day!

[unique warren]

She, but yes :)

Unless you're not talking about me lol

[fathom girder]

They were talkin' about you yes

to correct me

[solemn crest]

I was talking about Kroko’s question

[fathom girder]

shit

we're all confused

alright back to square one

[unique warren]

Anyways, point is that I think yo-yos have very good subclass progression and should be the standard really

[fathom girder]

I wouldn't call yoyos a subclass

[stoic kestrel]

no i have not, lol

[fathom girder]

They're just a weapon type, like bows are for ranger

[unique warren]

That's

What a subclass is yes

[fathom girder]

a subclass is like true melee

a subsect of a subsect

[unique warren]

Oh yeah this is a cal subclass vs every other mod subclass thing

Cause in other mods, true melee is just kind of a thing weapons have in common

[fathom girder]

ig the definition of "subclass" is very loose

so I'm probably just trying to read too hard into it

[unique warren]

It is, what I mean is like, it's very reasonable to do a yo-yo only run

[echo pier]

Asgard valor was truly gutted a lot

[fathom girder]

rightfully so

[unique warren]

It's not overloaded with yo-yos but it's very reasonable to do

[echo pier]

the ram dash's invincibility during the dash was shorted by 90%

[solemn crest]

Not really, it still does its ram dash

Oh, I see

Wow

[echo pier]

i cannot ram through anything bigger than an ant without taking damage

[dull heart]

No it wasn't

[fathom girder]

the ram frames were definitely shortened]

[dull heart]

The amount of iframes rams give was unchanged

[fathom girder]

oh shit ignore me

IGNORE me

[unique warren]

Smth like Javelin only is a lot more iffy

Less so now but still so

[dull heart]

The amount of frames rams allow you to ram was shortened

But the iframes when you do ram was entirely unchanged

[solemn crest]

I think the changes to Asgard’s is honestly kinda good bc it’ll make occult skull crown a bit more usable

[dull heart]

it now can only ram during the first 14 frames

[echo pier]

Yeah i'm switching to master ninja gear

[dull heart]

Laudanum and OSC disable debuff immunities now

[echo pier]

or shield of the high ruler

[unique warren]

2.1 did REALLY help out rogue weapon type progression ngl

[dull heart]

High Ruler is so good

[solemn crest]

🎉

How good is high ruler?

[dull heart]

High ruler nearly invalidating duke phase 3 is so funny

[solemn crest]

I’m intimidated by the bonk dash

[rancid pagoda]

high ruler is literally an upgrade to ankh shield but you don't need the ankh charm

[dull heart]

it's a bonk dash with the range of master ninja gear and does 300 damage and gives ankh shield effects

[solemn crest]

🤔

But bonk

[dull heart]

bonks are harder to use but very good

Oh also

[unique warren]

Javelin pre-boss and boomerang pre-boss were not an option previously, even if bombs is still post-boss for some reason lol

[fathom girder]

very

[dull heart]

On bonk the cooldown is halved

[fathom girder]

It does a lot of damage and is super versatile

[dull heart]

15 frames instead of 30 frame bonk cooldown

[solemn crest]

Bonks give I frames on the rebound yeah?

[fathom girder]

like I think high ruler can last the whole run once you get it

[rancid pagoda]

bonk is as fine as ram for fishron, dash cooldown is the limiting factor

[dull heart]

Yes, if you hold away from the enemy you hit they also launch you very far

[solemn crest]

Oooh that might be fun

[fathom girder]

it's seriously a huge distance too

[dull heart]

And high ruler has the best dash cooldown possible

[fathom girder]

like it's really cool tech

[dull heart]

it's not even new tech I just buffed it so people would use it more

[solemn crest]

Infernum DoG vs high ruler 🤔🤔🤔

[dull heart]

It's always been the meta

[unique warren]

Meta is to mountmax with damage accessories

[runic fable]

This, perhaps, is not a good idea.

[solemn crest]

I think I will do that

[solemn crest]

Vanilla terraria be like

[fathom girder]

high ruler's rebound might be fast enough to do it lmao

[dull heart]

Also

Bonks instantly end dash which is super super good

[unique warren]

I hope that bombs will be available pre-boss in this mod eventually

[solemn crest]

I’m doing it when I get there on my current run

[dull heart]

Lemon nade

[unique warren]

Uhhh

[strange cargo]

Grenade

[fathom girder]

will be available post goblin

[solemn crest]

Please tell me lemon nade has a cave Johnson reference in it somewhere

[fathom girder]

that would be amazing lul

[unique warren]

Is that a rogue weapon…?

[fathom girder]

it will be yheah

[dull heart]

this is slightly outdated tooltip

but

it gets the idea across

[fathom girder]

464 damage is certainly not what it is now lmao

[dull heart]

It's now 30 base dmg

[distant raft]

does it have self damage if you cook it too long

[dull heart]

Yes

[unique warren]

Honestly I feel like there is reason to have a lot more rogue weapons than there currently are

[fathom girder]

self damage tech could actually be huge btw

[dull heart]

it's very good for Evolution

[solemn crest]

I love it

[fathom girder]

I think that part of the lemon 'nade line will be very fun to abuse

yeahhhh

[dull heart]

Sealed Singularity self dmg + evolution hits the dmg cap

[unique warren]

Since it can’t rely on vanilla progression at all

[fathom girder]

wait WHAT

lmao'

that is absurd

[dull heart]

the damage cap is only 1k

[fathom girder]

oh

[runic fable]

Well, the problem is the risk that it'll rebound you backwards, where DoG's body already is. I think such a strategy would necessitate coiling.

[fathom girder]

Sorry I was thinkin' like warframe damage cap

for some reason

[dull heart]

1k * 50 so

50k per shard

So 250k total

[fathom girder]

PRETTY GOOD

[dull heart]

And can be adrenalined

And old fashioned

And

Yeah

[fathom girder]

so oneshotting scal

got it

another SSS tier

[runic fable]

It's certainly doable, and the shield would be excellent in the third phase, but there's no way it's the best option for DoG specifically.

[dull heart]

and can benefit from the super awesome thing I showed earlier with the burning sky

[solemn crest]

You mean the number that appears every two seconds in that game?

[fathom girder]

No

I mean the -2,17 trillion

[dull heart]

2147483647

it's only 2 billion

[fathom girder]

the fact you know that by heart is

scary

[unique warren]

Like, there are only 3 pre-hardmode javelins and I don't think that can be said for any vanilla weapon type...?

[fathom girder]

I didn't know you were a warframe player

[dull heart]

i don't play Warframe

[fathom girder]

oh

[dull heart]

It's just the 32 bit integer limit and a guess

[fathom girder]

I see

[fierce nebula]

It’s pretty well known just in general

[fathom girder]

okay that is the actual number but it's shown as negative

[dull heart]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/406493898341613568/1482190886225055784/Terraria__22_2026-03-13_20-36-57.mp4?ex=69b60d55&is=69b4bbd5&hm=6a8a40237558b9d0be93abc14439cdf58d3f8971e85b994015774609e8f19b3a&

[fathom girder]

OH SHIT you made the CV summon staff rework already??

[solemn crest]

I mean Destiny’s biggest damage display was 999,999

[unique warren]

I'm just kinda wondering to myself why rogue has roughly the same amount of weapons added compared to other classes

[dull heart]

I've done a lot of stuff in the last week or two

[fathom girder]

that's so cool

[solemn crest]

Modded class, other classes have vanilla weapons in addition to modded

[dull heart]

I think in the last two week I've done 5-6 weapons?

[unique warren]

Yeah, so it would make sense for rogue to have more to compensate

[solemn crest]

I think cal devs like giving all classes love though

[polar tide]

mage numero uno

[solemn crest]

Jesus, it took me two weeks to implement one weapon lol

[dull heart]

(one may or may not count as a rework and another is not done at all)

[solemn crest]

^^^

[dull heart]

I did two weapons in one day once lol

[unique warren]

Sure, but like... rogue starts out with 0 love and they give it the same amount as classes that start out with like, 10 love

[honest vine]

me when my wifes gf says shes dating my wife but thats gay which is sus 💀 ☠️ 😳

[dull heart]

Sealed Singularity and Duststorm in a bottle I finished the same day

well actually I made minor tweaks later but like

Both of them were basically finished in one day

[runic fable]

❔

[solemn crest]

took me two weeks to implement a last prism clone lol

[fathom girder]

Doze is just cracked

[dull heart]

I have practice and good base classes

[unique warren]

Idk it's just a bit confusing to me lol

[dull heart]

Fun Fact! The lemon 'nade line all uses BaseSwordHoldoutProjectile

[fathom girder]

wow

reusing vanilla code...

smh

[honest vine]

Silencing Draedin, as usual for a dev...

beloved Biologist

[dull heart]

no that's a class I made

[honest vine]

deleted in 2018

[solemn crest]

It’s funny tho bc the thingy made sucks against most mech bosses except destroyer

[unique warren]

Oh whatever

[fathom girder]

bwuh

[solemn crest]

It obliterates destroyer

[honest vine]

she is the mother of draedon and took down a whole army using primitive potions

[mystic eagle]

Most preboss weapons Cal adds are Rogue

[dull heart]

BaseSwordHoldoutProjectile is used by

• Mutilator
• Mirror Blade
• Gilded Proboscis
• Maw of Infinity
• Galileo Gladius
• Lucrecia

right now

[honest vine]

she has been silenced by the devs in 2018 due to controversies

[unique warren]

Uhhhh is that true

[dull heart]

Maybe one more I forgot about

[honest vine]

her concept art was The Dryad with Purple leaves

[unique warren]

That seems not true

[fathom girder]

I seeee

[honest vine]

and a long staff used to make potions with

Fabsol had to scrap this beloved lore character due to controversies in 2018

[mystic eagle]

It adds 13

[dull heart]

And then 4 more soon

[honest vine]

Xanatos? who the hell is that

[unique warren]

Ah, I see

[honest vine]

dumb name lol

[unique warren]

How are none of those bombs yet

[mystic eagle]

Summoner has 7 additions
Melee 6
Ranger and Mage 4

[fathom girder]

swaaaag

[unique warren]

But my point is that it still doesn't seem to be compensated imo

Like, fully.

[dull heart]

well soon rogue will have the most satisfying bomb in the game pre boss

[unique warren]

True!

[honest vine]

have you guys ever heard of the legend of Draedus? Son of Draedon and Supreme Calamitas

[fathom girder]

Now I get to annoy the shit out of enemies just as much as CV does to me

[solemn crest]

[honest vine]

Draedus is a toddler that took down whole armies using nothing

[dull heart]

I did hope this weapon would be cathartic to people

[barren nacelle]

Mmm... lembon

[polar tide]

please shut the hell up

[honest vine]

:(

[unique warren]

I just hope that the mod doesn't cut down on rogue weapons is all

Cause more than any class, it needs a lot of cal weapons

[dull heart]

I don't think there is any plan to do that

[honest vine]

silenced

[earnest jewel]

You should be banned for this.

[fathom girder]

it certainly will be >:)

[honest vine]

NOO

[unique warren]

I say this mostly because of the great spiky ball purge of 2026

[barren nacelle]

I actually think we need more rogue weapons through progression

[strange cargo]

🪨

[barren nacelle]

Spiky balls are a weird case because

[strange cargo]

Commence the stoning

[unique warren]

To be fair this was warranted ngl

[honest vine]

silenced

i shall never speak of this ever again

[solemn crest]

That may be the worst statement I’ve read in this chat in a hot minute

[honest vine]

Draedus? whos that

[polar tide]

can you guys leave it

[honest vine]

dumb name lol

[barren nacelle]

In vanilla theyre ranged weapons and I think it was weird making them bouncy or sticky makes them rogue

[dull heart]

I do think that like

[honest vine]

okoko

[dull heart]

bouncy or sticky spiky balls should have lived

but most of them deserved to die

[barren nacelle]

Bring them back as silly ranged consumable weapons

cal has none of those

[fathom girder]

I'm fine with web balls being the last spiky ball weapon to stay standing

[honest vine]

spiky balls has been deleted??

[dull heart]

Rogue really really needs a new auric weapon

[unique warren]

I wouldn't mind if they came back as anything actually interesting

[solemn crest]

99999 spiky valls

[barren nacelle]

I also like Nasty Cholla

[dull heart]

Nasty Cholla being anything but a spiky ball would be silly because it's made of cactus

[honest vine]

im picking son daughter

[unique warren]

Why is Rot Ball not a spiky ball again

[solemn crest]

Spiky square

[fathom girder]

does auric rogue have a javelin yet

[strange cargo]

Can summoner pretty please get more weapons

[dull heart]

ICBLime when

or Rocket Propelled Grapefruit

[unique warren]

Nope

[vivid hemlock]

the nuke

[unique warren]

Wait it does

[dull heart]

Wrathwing

[unique warren]

Sorry, Wrathwing

[barren nacelle]

What's wrong you don't like

[fathom girder]

ahh right right

forgot about wrathwing

[barren nacelle]

Let me check my notes

4 weapons

[unique warren]

I was thinking crafted stuff lol

[barren nacelle]

2 of which are donor

[dull heart]

Wrathwing
Final Dawn
Dynamic Pursuer
Seraphim

[dull heart]

2?? Is seraphim donor?

[barren nacelle]

No but Final Dawn is

[dull heart]

or is wrathwing?

[final pine]

yes

[dull heart]

yeah final Dawn is

[polar tide]

is supernova auric or am i fucking crazy

[vocal kelp]

and then, from heaven, descended freeza.

"Auric Spiky Ball"

https://docs.google.com/document/d/18W9rJeDdCji2eOqfEVYUWTVJujzb2EK-bRtJFm0RZJc

[barren nacelle]

Miracle is post exos

[dull heart]

Miracle matter

[strange cargo]

Tbf I dont think summoner has that many auric unless im mistaken

[polar tide]

yeah wouldnt that be auric tier

[dull heart]

Summoner has Lillies, Kindle, Saros, Midnight Sun

[barren nacelle]

WAIT

[dull heart]

No that's post exos

[barren nacelle]

I can just look at my page

[dull heart]

Auric tier is post yharon

[unique warren]

Seraphim is so fuckin based

[polar tide]

whar

[unique warren]

Crystalline line the goat

[dull heart]

Wait so what's the second donor besides final dawn

[unique warren]

I think it should have a more interesting recipe tho.

[barren nacelle]

Dynamic Pursuer

[dull heart]

That's not donor

[strange cargo]

I think the solution is to kill rangers 15 at whatever tier that was and redistribute the wealth

[dull heart]

it just feels like it should be

[unique warren]

Weapon + material and that's it recipes suck.

[barren nacelle]

OMG it isnt\

Very donor core weapon

[dull heart]

It's like Lucrecia

[barren nacelle]

For what purpose?

[dull heart]

The old lucrecia

lucrecia and dynamic Pursuer both felt VERY donor core

[barren nacelle]

Weird erroneous upgrade to an arsenal weapon

[vocal kelp]

i cant beleive dynamic pursuer got made man

tracking disk was so popular and good they made a second one

can you believe that

[barren nacelle]

No other arsenal weapon has an upgrade and it's one tier away from Dimension Tearing Disc 😭

[polar tide]

do post exos seriously just get violet rarity? lol?

[strange cargo]

… do you want every weapon to be like the zenith?

[fathom girder]

tracking disk 2

[strange cargo]

Or the soul of eternity from fargos?

[solemn crest]

Wait doze, one of the auric rogue weapons should just be the lemon nade tree

[dull heart]

they have Burnished Auric as the rarity

[polar tide]

okay that is what i was erferring to

[solemn crest]

And you just throw a tree with like 30 lemon nades on it

[dull heart]

but "auric tier" doesn't refer to the rarity when people say it

Usually

[polar tide]

thats what i thought you meant by auric tier

this game is dummbbbbbb

[unique warren]

No, just to have thought-out recipes with a unique material or two

[dull heart]

They just mean the tier you get auric at

[barren nacelle]

Ranger and Melee aren't starved for choices at the slightest

Mage too

[polar tide]

i still want exo items to have a unique exo rarity cuz itd be cooooolllll

[strange cargo]

10,000 more hours of grinding for a specific item

[barren nacelle]

https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/User:Sup.CrispyWasTaken/Sandbox2#Post-Yharon,_Dragon_of_Rebirth

[strange cargo]

Summoner and rogue need to rise up

[fathom girder]

burnished auric rarity but it's blue and grey instead of orange and blue

[dull heart]

summoner isn't either because minion mixing is 100% worth doing

It's just rogue that really suffers

[polar tide]

no it'd be rainbow :/

[unique warren]

I mean like, 10 Lumenyl or smth for a weapon for more interest when crafting

[barren nacelle]

Classless even has a weapon on tier

[fathom girder]

oh rainbow would make way more sense lmao

dunno what I was thinkin

[polar tide]

silly goose

[dull heart]

huh?

what classless is post yahr

[barren nacelle]

Land Mine

[solemn crest]

An exo tier would go crazy

[dull heart]

... I don't think that's classified as a weapon

That's a trap

but yeah

proximity mine launcher should be able to launch auric landmines

[strange cargo]

Exo chair should drop exo landmines out the bottom

[barren nacelle]

I count it as classless

It deals damage

[polar tide]

i might do a mockup or somtehgin for waht i want exo tier to look like because i want circuitboard pattern to be integrated into it sooo badddd

[fathom girder]

auric toilet should drop auric mines

tbh

[solemn crest]

WAIT

[unique warren]

That would be a very fun and unique way to make a post-plant weapon auric tier lol

[barren nacelle]

No Auric Bomb

1984

[solemn crest]

Asgardian aegis but it has an auric land mine strapped to it

[dull heart]

auric bomb should NOT exist

not with supernova there + exos there

[strange cargo]

You should be able to equip it as vanity over the exo box

fits with relogic’s obsession

[unique warren]

Why does this matter exactly...?

[solemn crest]

Auric poo

[barren nacelle]

Auric Tier Tracking Disk Upgrade

[honest vine]

zenith poo

[barren nacelle]

This is a good idea and should be added to the mod

[strange cargo]

🍅

[main estuary]

and it's just the old aerial tracker

[honest vine]

collect all 5 condiments for a burger

[dull heart]

it's just very close to supernova and would either not really be much of a bomb (no aoe power) or only be good on exos

[barren nacelle]

It should be made with 2 disk weapons and then turn into a boomerang for some reason

[honest vine]

to get the zenith poo

[vocal kelp]

i think you guys should add unique weapons that are good

[dull heart]

okay I just did that

[strange cargo]

No one uses the unique weapons though

[vocal kelp]

welp! problem solved!

[dull heart]

Auric Rogue clearly needs Glaive Dominus thete

[barren nacelle]

Lemo'nade upgrade made with soul fragment

[honest vine]

can you guys add like

a horrible weapon

[barren nacelle]

not fragments

just one

[unique warren]

Ugh, this really is my subclass side speaking but I don't agree

Auric tier bomb would be pretty nice

[runic fable]

The world is SAVED!!

[mystic eagle]

Evil Smasher

[dull heart]

this would be especially silly

[strange cargo]

… youll never believe this

[dull heart]

Considering

[honest vine]

best sentence ever

[dull heart]

Supernova uses lemon nade line

[strange cargo]

When the hog is horrible

Horrible hog tomorrow

[dull heart]

Not for long

[honest vine]

too late

a horrible weapon

[solemn crest]

Auric lemonade is just a cup of auric juice that you splash on your enemy

[honest vine]

what happens if you drink it

[wary crest]

Pocket sand

[honest vine]

auric pee?

[main estuary]

your head explodes

[strange cargo]

Can the horrible hog drop a truly horrible (for the enemies) weapon

[wary crest]

Auric upgrade to golden shower

[honest vine]

very true

[fathom girder]

you explode violently

[main estuary]

because it's juice that makes your head explode!

[honest vine]

will be called Auric Golden Shower

[strange cargo]

I demand a new flask

[wary crest]

The golden shower line obviously needs to be expanded on

[dull heart]

I think auric rogue could use a good dagger tbh

[honest vine]

it will be so auric

[solemn crest]

Auric juice! Auric juice! Auric juice!

[honest vine]

using the auric golden shower will make you pee irl

[dull heart]

Or a glaive upgrade

[vocal kelp]

thats because calamitys more unique weapons are mostly weirdly gimmicky you can make unique things that arent and itd be fine

[unique warren]

Just rework Seraphim ngl

Daggers already get pampered

[dull heart]

nah

[vocal kelp]

just put the good int he bag

[strange cargo]

I think auric summoner could use a sentry, just saying

[vocal kelp]

just put the good, in the bag

[fathom girder]

I'd be down to see another glaive

[echo pier]

An upgrade of the blazing star would be cool

[solemn crest]

Yeahhhh, seraphim needs some… not clutter

[honest vine]

im an auricstic person

[hasty hawk]

Yep Glaive upgrade would be cool

[vocal kelp]

i think auric rogue could perhaps use a weapon that isnt any particular subclass

[dull heart]

seraphim is meant to be cluttery

[unique warren]

This is a good take

[vocal kelp]

subclasses arent even real theyre melee ranger propaganda

[hasty hawk]

So would a Utensil Poker upgrade

[dull heart]

I think it needs something that's like

[honest vine]

add zenith seraphim

[dull heart]

Slower single target focus

[strange cargo]

Slick cane upgrade that reduces goblin tinkerer’s prices while in inventory

[solemn crest]

There used to be something like that

[fathom girder]

subsonic frequency utensils, uses draedon parts

[solemn crest]

I think it was the seared pan?

But that got removed

[unique warren]

Make it a bomb ehehehehehehe

[honest vine]

seared pan is good

WHAT

?????????

[solemn crest]

It’s been gone

[hasty hawk]

Seared Pan WAS NOT an utensil poker upgrade

[honest vine]

..

wHYY???

[dull heart]

Bomb is literally not single target by nature

[hasty hawk]

heck its boring as shit

[unique warren]

eheheh

[wary crest]

Cal devs hate fun, obviously

[honest vine]

clam devs thought

[wary crest]

[solemn crest]

It wasn’t? I swear it used it in the recipe

[hasty hawk]

Literally just strong single target weapon

[strange cargo]

No one saw my cool idea

[honest vine]

omg a GOOD WEAPON

LETS GET RID OF IT

[dull heart]

actually wait

wulfrum knife spiritual successor would be fun

[wary crest]

I’m still salty they removed plague keeper in 2.1

[honest vine]

THE HIVE WEAPON

[wary crest]

Bee sword did nothing wrong, deserved better

[honest vine]

clam devs just went

omg

[unique warren]

It was dedicated to shayy

[honest vine]

people are HAVING FUN

oh!

rework it then tf

[hasty hawk]

If Seared Pan was weak then it would have not been remarkable at all, its Spectre Rifle 2; only known due to being op

[honest vine]

NAH FUCK THAT

[unique warren]

I kind of agree but it's a bit reasonable

[honest vine]

DELETE

[strange cargo]

Could do new bees that come from the spiritual successor (I don’t play rogue)

[hasty hawk]

Utensil Poker is a clockwork weapon with a strong stealth strike, it would go along with Wulfrum Knifes’ mechanics for a new item nicely

[fathom girder]

Exo hornets when...

[mystic eagle]

Exo Mechanical Silksong

[honest vine]

they reworked clockwork bow

omg

[fathom girder]

YES

[unique warren]

I wouldn't mind them just redoing the idea ngl

[dull heart]

I do already have a plan for wulfrum knife spiritual successor actually

[hasty hawk]

Altho Utensil Poker itself also needs sort of a rework to make it more consistent (and to properly reference Chicken Invaders)

[honest vine]

zenith wulfrum knife

[polar tide]

ujhnghghg uhjhguhgughguurughh

[solemn crest]

But utensil poker is grosssss

[honest vine]

whats utensil poker?

isnt it like

[dull heart]

(and have mostly finished it too)

[honest vine]

the summon that spawns dishes?

[unique warren]

Anyways yeah I do want auric tier bomb cause waaaa my subclass runs waaaaaa

[dull heart]

No

[solemn crest]

No it’s the ML rogue weapon

[honest vine]

can you make the dishes summon to like

everytime you use it

[dull heart]

Just use sealed Singularity smh

[hasty hawk]

Utensil Poker is throwing cutlery and a butcher knife

[honest vine]

you get to do the dishes after 5 attacks

[fathom girder]

can we seeeeee it

[dull heart]

No

[barren nacelle]

I'm actually getting really hung up on the fact that Dynamic Pursuer is a boomerang hold on

[fathom girder]

aw

[hasty hawk]

It needs some visual tweaks tbh

[unique warren]

It would probably be fine enough but it's still a tad disappointing

[honest vine]

can we add washing dishes to calamity

and doing the laundry

[solemn crest]

I’m still waiting for the day we get a Yharim desk slam attack

[dull heart]

it'll be more interesting to use than any other rogue bombs anyway once it's reworked

[honest vine]

for each 20 uses of Utensils poker, youd have to wash them else youd suffer a 10% global stat nerf

[unique warren]

I agree but I like having one weapon type per super duper important game stage

[wary crest]

Yharims dsp is gonna be him spawning a table and causing an earthquake, trust

[hasty hawk]

The only reason ML drops Utensil Poker is due to Chicken Invaders being from space

[honest vine]

Oh wait

utensil poker is the knives

[solemn crest]

You always die because it kills everyone in a several km radius

[unique warren]

Like, it would be fine if there was an auric bomb but not a post-exo/scal one

[honest vine]

what happened to that summon weapon?

the one that was in elemental axe recipe

[unique warren]

Uhhhh wdym

[solemn crest]

?

[honest vine]

fym wym

[dull heart]

I think having one weapon of every subclass per important stage is quite boring for weapon variety

[honest vine]

im not crazy

[solemn crest]

Terraprisma?

[dull heart]

terraprisma...?

[honest vine]

there was a summon in that recipe

no

[unique warren]

I mean like, super important stage

[honest vine]

before 2.0

there was a summon that spawned plates

[dull heart]

haunted scroll

[honest vine]

yes

[unique warren]

Like, pre-providence is a super important stage but post-provi is not quite as important

[dull heart]

It's now post skeletron iirc

[honest vine]

what the fuck

that makes sense but still

[unique warren]

And Auric tier is like, super important

[pulsar cobalt]

its not

[honest vine]

can u make it so like

[pulsar cobalt]

still uses souls of light n night

[distant raft]

it got a bugfix but still post wof

[dull heart]

what

[honest vine]

every 20 uses u have to wash them for 5 minutes

[unique warren]

what

[dull heart]

what happened to its tier shift aghh

[honest vine]

because they get dirty

[unique warren]

we just saying shit now

[honest vine]

and you gotta do dishes

thats an important life lessons for kids playing calamity

[pulsar cobalt]

stuck in summoner rebalance maybe?

[solemn crest]

I think you need to go to sleep

[fathom girder]

chik being the best option for plantera when

[honest vine]

no, i think there should be washing dishes to calamity

[unique warren]

I do hope y'all figure out an auric tier bomb cause it would be really really nice

[rare tinsel]

wash and recycle potion bottles

[earnest jewel]

Yharim Grenade.

[honest vine]

clean enemy and boss gore

with a broom

[strange cargo]

Sounds like how Kaiju No. 8 started

[honest vine]

else you get a termite infestion and lose ur houses

[wary crest]

That adds to property value

[unique warren]

Mostly cause like... otherwise, bomb gameplay is fine

But auric tier is just bad

[honest vine]

that would increase property values in Calamitoria

[main estuary]

what if my house was made of smooth marble and granite

[honest vine]

you die

because those blocks are shit

[wary crest]

Rock termites

Personally I build all my houses out of auric ore

[strange cargo]

What if I eat termites

[barren nacelle]

I just dont get it why is the upgarde of Tracking DISK and Dimension Tearing DISK a boomerang

[honest vine]

then you get well fed buff

isnt it obvious? smh

[fathom girder]

Might be an avoidable issue once Yharim's gift lets you cheese exos no matter what

[barren nacelle]

Just make it a disk please

[dull heart]

Boomerang

[barren nacelle]

?

[wary crest]

Boomerang

[fathom girder]

boomerang

[honest vine]

??? 😭

[barren nacelle]

My caveman who I've taught words only through Australian television

[honest vine]

Youtuber

[dull heart]

Platypus

[strange cargo]

Kangaroo

[honest vine]

Markiplier

[strange cargo]

Theres one word I cant say

[fathom girder]

prime ministuh

[barren nacelle]

Krikey

[fathom girder]

piss

[honest vine]

People

[strange cargo]

Crocs

[honest vine]

Poo

[unique warren]

Still unsatisfying

[solemn crest]

Vegemite

[strange cargo]

May Steve Irwin’s soul rest in peace

Krikey! Dingo!

[dull heart]

yharim's gift is gonna force rebalancing the debuff weakness and vulnerability system lol

[honest vine]

Nutella

[distant raft]

boomerang

[honest vine]

??? 😭

[barren nacelle]

???

[solemn crest]

boomerang

[barren nacelle]

😭

[unique warren]

But I want consistent bomb progression

[strange cargo]

Boomerang

[solemn crest]

boomerang

[honest vine]

!!! 😂

[barren nacelle]

I mean post dog has 2 bombs

[unique warren]

Oops sorry uh

Boomerang

[barren nacelle]

so you can just hold on to one to fight yharon

[honest vine]

?!? 🤔

[strange cargo]

Boomerang

[unique warren]

You mean to fight scal?

[dull heart]

why can't I think of either of them

[oblique gorge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/827289969000710167/1483139736091496519/giphy.gif

FUCK

[main estuary]

l embed fail

[dull heart]

no you use supernova on scal

[honest vine]

!!! 😲

[solemn crest]

Methinks all rogue weapons should be consumables. The recipes and yields do not change

[pulsar cobalt]

hypothermia and uhhhhhhhh idk

[unique warren]

Whatever I mean exo mechs

[dull heart]

Isn't hypothermia a spiky ball

[pulsar cobalt]

penumbra!!

[fierce nebula]

giphy.gif.xml

[barren nacelle]

It's because they're genuine nothingburgers and one is dying

[unique warren]

Nope, just an other

[barren nacelle]

Penumbra and Plasma Grenade

[distant raft]

i agree

[honest vine]

Delete rogue

thatll fix it

wish there was a mod that deleted all rogue items

[dull heart]

Ok yeah penumbra is so bad

[barren nacelle]

I have a giant page that has the progression of every single weapon in front of me and there are some dastardly gaps

[strange cargo]

Man I just want some more postml whips and sentries

[solemn crest]

I think rogue needs like a lot of love tho bc it’s the custom calamity class you know?

[barren nacelle]

Penumbra is less donor core but still kinda donor core

[unique warren]

Anyways pleaseeee pleeeaaaase I want auric bomb waa

[solemn crest]

You’re getting KALEIDOSCOPE

[hasty hawk]

YES FINALLY, I hope stuff gets changed around to have more build variety and make debuffs more versatile and actually a thing without having shit like https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072684135199539253/1072692158613684334/IMG_3343.png?ex=69b958ac&is=69b8072c&hm=b647afa512f140ff916a53b8dd4cece88dda44b175085e04cfe3e85ab16ff1fc&

[honest vine]

https://terrariamods.fandom.com/wiki/Whips_%26_more_mod

[dull heart]

Debuffs already are versatile and a thing

[hasty hawk]

Perhaps you should look into the several addons that exist

[dull heart]

it's just that some places they uh

yup they do things

[hasty hawk]

yes this update helped a fuckton

[misty wren]

break things

[wary crest]

You’re getting kaliescope. You’re gonna like it. Or you’re gonna install Infernum and use whatever that things called

[solemn crest]

What is cal gonna do about the moon lord tentacle whip from 1.4.5?

[misty wren]

severely

[honest vine]

people has been silencing the truth

[misty wren]

nerf it

[unique warren]

It's so funny how calamity makes debuffs good in the weirdest way possible

[honest vine]

this mod is the best

[hasty hawk]

Before debuffs were like niche and you only used them if they nuked a boss

you're on the right path

[unique warren]

Like instead of just making them good increases to damage they made it a whole type system lmfao

[honest vine]

the calamitous government

[misty wren]

possession just has to be nerfed it cannot be allowed to exist as it does in vanilla

[honest vine]

hiding the mod of all time

[dull heart]

I want to cut weakness and resistance to 1.25x and 0.875x instead of 2x and 0.5x

[strange cargo]

“Oh yeah you don’t like the fact that the major content mod doesn’t have whips postml, and one sentry at the same time? Just download another mod.”

[dull heart]

And then make booster items stronger

[rare tinsel]

valid tbh

[dull heart]

Except amalgam

[honest vine]

check it out, it adds Noob from Roblox

[unique warren]

Very based but why not .75x

[rare tinsel]

pre hardmode shadowflame is broken as shit

[honest vine]

im not even joking btw

[strange cargo]

.875 has a pretty good fraction I think

[honest vine]

https://terrariamods.fandom.com/wiki/Whips_%26_more_mod/Noob

[pulsar cobalt]

sigh

[unique warren]

It's a good one but just a bit odd to me

[pulsar cobalt]

butterfly dust can only drop from moths post 1 mech

[honest vine]

holy shit

the mod adds coldheart spear

https://terrariamods.fandom.com/wiki/Whips_%26_more_mod/Coldheart

[strange cargo]

I’m not here to get recommended other mods, read the room

[honest vine]

its just the best mod ever

that adds, uh

corite knight

relevent

[dull heart]

(this is already what Sage Poison does)

[hasty hawk]

this would be great, no clue as to why the boosts are so big rn, altho more booster items would be nice

or have upgrades for them

[dull heart]

like my thought is to cripple the natural mults and then double most additive boosters except malgam

[dense sundial]

at this rate the system barely exists

[unique warren]

Loud incorrect buzzer

[dull heart]

It's still 25% more debuff dps multiplicative with all boosters

[unique warren]

All that means is it won't be intrusive

[solemn crest]

There should be a debuff that increases crit change against the afflicted target

[fierce hearth]

Someone doesn't play enough MMOs to know 25% is a huge increase

[solemn crest]

Fuckin 10% is huge

[fierce hearth]

I love my raidwide 3% damage buff

[unique warren]

Honestly cal could have just made debuffs better by increasing DoT to be more worth it but the way they did it is cool

[grave grove]

guys this size for my arena against astrum deus is good?

[rancid pagoda]

tiny

[solemn crest]

The 3% is the best buff bc it stacks multiplicatively with every other buff

[rancid pagoda]

but why'd you even bother digging, it doesn't enrage outside the biome

[dense sundial]

not tiny considering this is aureus we're talking about

[rancid pagoda]

they said deus

[grave grove]

deus

[dense sundial]

i may be stupid

[hasty hawk]

It would be cool but codewise its quite a mess btw

[solemn crest]

Yeah that would be awful to code

[fierce hearth]

It's a bit narrow, but if you platform up toward space you can fight deus mostly vertically with the extra room you gave yourself

[unique warren]

God I wish summoner could crit

I know why it can't but it still sucks

[grave grove]

oh yeah

im gonna do vertical platforms

to space

[fierce hearth]

Good

[dense sundial]

if summoner was made from the ground up there would be zero reason for it not to crit

[unique warren]

Agreed, and I think currently there is literally no reason for whips not to

[fierce hearth]

Make sure to normalize gravity so you don't get caught by the change in space

[wary crest]

The magical Fargos dlc

[dense sundial]

now it's just weird arbitrary balance standard (that makes whip tag a bigger problem!)

[solemn crest]

*if summoner was balanced

[dull heart]

Very doable but sounds really rough to balance

[unique warren]

It's not quite arbitrary cause it already has a multiplicative increase (summon slots) but I agree

[solemn crest]

It could only be like a 5% additional crit chance

[honest vine]

is there like

[solemn crest]

Though I guess with how fast things hit in terraria 5% is quite a high crit chance

[honest vine]

a sort of dev kits assorted to calamity devs?

for tmod 1.4.5

[dull heart]

No

[honest vine]

aa

[dull heart]

Tmod 1.4.5 doesn't even exist in a launchable state period

[honest vine]

i thought tmod did this kind of thing

[dull heart]

tmod releases public preview versions once they're ready

[honest vine]

ohh

[dull heart]

Calamity doesn't need to see it early because literally everyone gets it early

[honest vine]

i always assumed the second it decompiles its given to big devs

thenn when its actually playable its released

[barren nacelle]

I find it interesting there are like no phm class based accessories

[honest vine]

there is

[barren nacelle]

or not phm

sorry sorry

pre boss

[honest vine]

the one from the sulphur sea

[barren nacelle]

pre boss

[honest vine]

yes

the one from sulphur sea

in a chest

[barren nacelle]

Yeah there's Scions, Wulfrum Battery, and Spirit Glyph

That's it

[honest vine]

ya

[solemn crest]

If only tmod allowed custom liquids

[honest vine]

well its preboss

[honest vine]

im glad they didnt

[barren nacelle]

Rogue has a few but Ink Bomb is kinda a sneak cuz it's ona technicality

[honest vine]

people wouldve added piss

[barren nacelle]

Same with coin of deceit

[mystic eagle]

Liquid ichor

[honest vine]

exactly

[barren nacelle]

pre-boss mage accessory pls pls pls

[honest vine]

mana flower

band of mana

[barren nacelle]

Like a calamity one

[honest vine]

celestial shackles

why

[barren nacelle]

One with a fun gimmic

Variety

[honest vine]

theres alrdy vanilla ones

ok true

[rough vine]

arent custom liquids wip

[fierce hearth]

I love how terraria is coded so fucking weirdly that the number of liquids in the game is hard coded

[barren nacelle]

Like okay we have 3. 3 that all builds are going to be running

[honest vine]

add a mage accessory that reduces your mana by 1

thats unique

[mystic eagle]

Spaghettaria

[barren nacelle]

Like look at scions that's a cool gimmicy pre-boss item

[dull heart]

and very broken

[solemn crest]

Damn, to make custom liquids, relogic would need to recode liquids

[barren nacelle]

That is fair

[pulsar cobalt]

scions curio is very very good for wof

[barren nacelle]

But he is a funny little guy he gets a chuckle out of me

[pulsar cobalt]

line up a line of spikes instead of platforms and go for a bit of warding and oops boss is dead

[solemn crest]

Custom liquids would be so much fun though

Imagine potion buckets

[strange cargo]

The humble luxors gift

[honest vine]

i mean

tmod devs would

[barren nacelle]

The monkey paw curls

[honest vine]

not relogic

[barren nacelle]

One additional liquid slot

[solemn crest]

No, tmod like literally can’t

[honest vine]

just make terraria 2

[strange cargo]

For diarrhea

[solemn crest]

It’s a terraria source code thing