calamity-update-talk

[dull heart]

also fun fact

player sensors attached to teleporters don't seem to teleport you??

[thorny fjord]

you sure? are you placing the sensors so they don't fully overlap the teleporter?

[dull heart]

yes

i tried a lot of different ways

even looping the sensor into a 1/4th timer delay

nothing worked

[solemn crest]

What about 2 sensors?

[dull heart]

anyway time to do a no armor no accessory no permanent upgrades scal facetank

[thorny fjord]

oh huh, you're correct. You need to have the sensor go to a timer, which then does the teleporters

[dull heart]

this still didn't work for me

for some reason

maybe i did it wrong

[grave geyser]

funnilly enough I'm pretty sure this still doesnt make scal possible because I'm fairly certain the maelstrom ignores iframes

[dull heart]

lemme test

[grave geyser]

wouldnt this also be ungodly slow
3 minions 2 sentries and whatever mage sentries you feel like using as only real damage and you still have to obey summon penalty

[dull heart]

yes that's why it's so funny

[grave geyser]

incredible

[dull heart]

also

the brothers freak out when doing this

it's very funny

they start moving in a zigzag

[grave geyser]

@mpg scal facetank real

[dull heart]

real

[dull heart]

my thought is

probably go for exoblade

[grave geyser]

oh wait you can swap weapons mid pull? it might be peak

[dull heart]

yes

it doesn't item lock you at all

[grave geyser]

incredible

[dull heart]

tbh that might be really useful in real play when combined with crescent moon

bc crescent moon does crazy dmg in spin

... i wonder if holding right click while on a different item also extends the duration you're locked on the target

[grave geyser]

kalei + magnus + extra weapon who really cares
lillies + 1 saros + 2 carrions

[tropic jolt]

hmmm

[dull heart]

i think the extra weapon is pretty important tbh especially if it inflicts miracle blight

also add stratus sphere for free damage

[grave geyser]

true...

[dull heart]

vodka meta finally

[grave geyser]

vodka finally not useless

[dull heart]

wait

iframes

....

yharims gift solo

[grave geyser]

the meteors are still ass I fear

[dull heart]

they are but

you can do it

100% dmg yharims gift scal facetank will be doable next patch

current patch the meteors aint hitting brothers

[grave geyser]

the mythical 2.1.3 (its never coming out)

[lyric trellis]

2.2 tomorrow

[dull heart]

wait with new gift this is actually like

not terrible

[lyric trellis]

?

[dull heart]

brb gonna damagemax and cry when thanatos spawns

[lyric trellis]

Is gift your primary damage source

[grave geyser]

just give the meteors infinite pierce and bypass pierce res nothing could go wrong

[dull heart]

gift solo dmg source

i gotta damage max tho

psycho knife water gun hotswap

[grave geyser]

can you even get psycho stealth while pulling

[dull heart]

apparently not

i wonder why

[grave geyser]

I mean doesnt psycho require standing still

[dull heart]

no

oh wait

to generate it maybe

hmm

[grave geyser]

yeah moving while not at full steath cancels it

[dull heart]

so then the question is if i can get more damage with vortex + stealth or auric melee

i think it'll be auric melee

[grave geyser]

why melee specifically

[dull heart]

because summon has silva crystal, rogue probably doesn't have more raw damage and

i think ranged has darts on enemy hit

[grave geyser]

clearly the answer is gem tech

[dull heart]

hmm

[grave geyser]

hey wait a minute I just had a thought

[dull heart]

that is more damage actually

actually no

it's not more damage

auric melee is doing more

[grave geyser]

...wait a minute

doze I seem to recall you saying something about stratus sphere not updating its damage dynamically

[dull heart]

fixed in 2.1.3

but

until then

yes

[grave geyser]

ideas are ideasing

hm

[fathom girder]

hello regenator

[earnest jewel]

Perfect for Shedinja.

[grave geyser]

seems about right

[hearty horizon]

Ughhhh Nightwither is getting really annoying on Moon Lord

[dull heart]

lol?

what did you do

[grave geyser]

a funny

this is also
unoptimized

and pre dog gear only

[dull heart]

dog is so cooked

5k dps from sphere alone on a single target

wait

Shiny stone regenator?

[grave geyser]

✅

[dull heart]

lol

Fun fact

Most of the xyk holdouts also don't update damage dynamically

because they stay out the whole time you hold click

Neither do mine but mine disappear when the attack ends

[grave geyser]

no spiteful candle

[dull heart]

so you could only abuse it on Proboscis hard

regenator shiny stone proboscis Hyperius Bullet sounds

really really funny

[grave geyser]

best part is it has room to be so much funnier

[dull heart]

oh

[grave geyser]

oh?

[amber egret]

what is this exactly ?

i see regenerator and some regen options

[rancid pagoda]

what's your Regenerator at

[amber egret]

(where is camper)

[rancid pagoda]

camper actually still sucks

[amber egret]

still???? i thought they buffed the regen

[dull heart]

RTN would pair well

[grave geyser]

it would

[dull heart]

also is blood pact actually worth?

[rancid pagoda]

it doesn't even help Regenerator

[dull heart]

it's actually good

But only for seeing in the abyss

Nothing else

[amber egret]

i thought it gave regen

[dull heart]

It does but it's not enough to be worth using at all

[grave geyser]

are you aware of just how much my natural regen is getting multiplied right now

[dull heart]

Wait

[amber egret]

bro ...

[dull heart]

Shiny Stone is natural...

oh...

[rancid pagoda]

nnope, only makes moving regen better

[dull heart]

moonshine?

[grave geyser]

yes

[dull heart]

-# told you moonshine was peak

[lyric trellis]

The horrors

[grave geyser]

equipping pact makes regenerator go from 387 to 447

[dull heart]

oh wow

arc flash

since it's multiplicative

[rancid pagoda]

wait what's your max hp

[hearty horizon]

Yeah if Nightwither could like... leave me alone... that would be amazing

[lapis oak]

🥹

Shiny Stone horror

[grave geyser]

not as much as you'd think

[dull heart]

+447% damage for one attack 🔥

Does striking moment work on shiny stone for some silly reason

Not on shiny stone

[rancid pagoda]

yeah considering that armor doesn't give any

[dull heart]

On sphere

I remember striking moment worked on rain armor for some reason

[grave geyser]

honestly probably but I give it an 90% chance parrying resets shiny stone regen so

[dull heart]

so you just gotta get your natural regen back asap

and fire last moment before striking moment is out

[grave geyser]

moonshine is not the real buffer here for the record

[rancid pagoda]

yeah that bloodflare regen bonus is pretty great for regenerator shiny stone funnies

[grave geyser]

oh theres something else in addition to bloodflare

[rancid pagoda]

hmm I'm getting 388 on regenerator now

[grave geyser]

close, could probably get over 3k if I wasn't overoptimizing regen

with spite, still no rippers (yet)

with adren

ok fastest I think I'm gonna get it without either somehow killing him before adren or doing some other bullshit

[rough ruin]

👀

Pretty fast

[severe coral]

When the hog is horrible

WHERE AM I

DISCORD

[vivid hemlock]

ancient xykpost...

horror

[severe coral]

Bro my fucking

discor help

[pulsar cobalt]

pisscord

[severe coral]

Ok I think I'm back

[rough ruin]

Big ape vs big snowflake

[severe coral]

Who's cooler

[mystic eagle]

What's inside the snowflake

[severe coral]

The SSO update

[hard copper]

funky kong, no diff

[rough ruin]

I don't know

[halcyon seal]

only one of these characters is the definitive best character in mario kart wii

[mystic eagle]

Amidias of course

[vivid hemlock]

guh....

hes watching...

[tropic jolt]

this is real footage from IIO

(ice ice overhaul)

[mystic eagle]

with New Funky Mode

[earnest jewel]

I don't see Daisy in the image.

[tropic jolt]

terraria calamity mod tropical freeze (new funky mode)

[dusty tinsel]

Donkey Kong plays terraria and wins first try

[halcyon seal]

Donkey Kong could do the Yharim table slam for real

[tropic jolt]

the moon slam

[mystic eagle]

Once he reaches Hardmode he throws a Barrel to get Diddy Kong by his side

[polar tide]

mrrow

[vagrant wind]

is gilded getting a nerf or staying the way it is

[dull heart]

shrug

[lapis oak]

I mean

S tier

[vagrant wind]

ive only heard good things

also can skip cv final phase

[gleaming hatch]

ngl i saw the spoiler and for a second i thought we were getting a stool for a vanity set

[fluid mulch]

what class would he be

[dusty tinsel]

Rogue

Because he throws stuff

[fluid mulch]

good point but he could prob be any

[fluid mulch]

he could be rogue with his barrels or mage or ranger with his coconut gun or summoner with diddy kong or js melee

[vagrant wind]

speaking of ceaseless void

is grand dad supposed to be able to move him and dark energies

this shit just decimates him in a small arena

[dull heart]

are both scal and exos dead

grand dad becomes stronger when they are

[vagrant wind]

ah I missed that

I should probably rollback my test world

[dull heart]

you can use Doze's Calamity Testing Efficiency to just unmark them as dead

[pulsar cobalt]

is caltesthelper still updated btw

[grave geyser]

yes

[dull heart]

yes

although it's on it's last legs

[vagrant wind]

🥹

[dull heart]

speaking of... i added player HP graphs and better UI for boss results today

[wary igloo]

no self-advertising 🤓

[barren nacelle]

Does anyone know off the top of their heads if Cosmilamp is properly clamped within a 1920x1080 screen?

[fathom girder]

well damn lookie here

[dull heart]

its fun getting to see exactly when i got hit and also all the lifesteal from like proboscis

[pulsar cobalt]

how is misc damage determined

[dull heart]

stuff that is from me that the mod can't figure out the source of

likely ram damage here

from solar armor

[fathom girder]

the graphs are a wonderful addition

I can't lie that kinda visualization has been needed for years

[dull heart]

true

i'm considering adding an "agression meter" that measures distance from boss too

but that sounds more difficult to make legible

[fathom girder]

If you can

make it a radar I'd say

[pulsar cobalt]

thatd be cool

[dull heart]

you can also see here just how quickly i nuked guardian healer with prob

it got oneshot lol

[grave geyser]

how would this work with bosses with multiple parts like skeletron hands

[fathom girder]

with the boss at the center and the player position as general points or lines across the radar circle

[dull heart]

one of the questions i'm not sure how to answer

[pulsar cobalt]

i would say multiple graphs for parts but then stuff like anahita and hive mind exist where

they just summon a bunch of shit

[dull heart]

yeah...

[grave geyser]

exos agression meter ---------------

[pulsar cobalt]

🔥

[fathom girder]

could just give each boss NPC the prox scanner

assuming that's how you'd track the player's relative location to the boss

[dull heart]

yeah but it's not always the case that you only need to know the boss

like dog you need to know head and tail

[fathom girder]

ig the better question is, how would you calc the player's location from a boss

[dull heart]

i also am looking at adding:

• SummonTag dmg breakdown support to Fight Stats (tell you how much of your minion's damage was from tags)
• Fight Stats history (allow starring fights to pin them for later)
• Export to tierlist website formatting
• Debuff stat modifier
• Summon Tag modifier GUI
• Weapon stats adjuster
• Arena Subworld Builder when Subworld Lib is enabled (mostly coded)
• DMG variance adjuster (mostly coded)

[fathom girder]

good lordie

[pulsar cobalt]

at this point just make like

you know how you can "record" a fight in smash but it isnt an actual recording, it just plays back the same inputs

yea that

do that

[dull heart]

too much work + rng stuff

[fathom girder]

If you combine this mod with nycro's nohit efficiency mod at a tinkerer's workshop you get the ultimate information medallion

on equip you suddenly know everything

[dull heart]

i don't think nycros even gives any info this doesn't

[lyric trellis]

TAS testing

[dull heart]

oh and a potion GUI

to enable/disable potions and auto-select them for your current tier

[fathom girder]

Oh oh okay

so you'd combine nycro's mod with some cosmilite or something and you'd get the doze mod

got it

[dull heart]

yeah

my mod's already to the point it basically already does everything every other testing mod does

[fathom girder]

quite the valuable tool

It's out already isn't it? At least in some form?

[dull heart]

so someone was telling me north pole has more reach than gilded

i see why

[dull heart]

yeah it's out

i just published the player HP graph today

[fathom girder]

swag

I forget what stat exactly boosts spears

[dull heart]

melee speed

[fathom girder]

okay similar to yoyos

[pulsar cobalt]

its so dang long

[dull heart]

with no melee speed at all though

[fathom girder]

that's been a thing in vanilla for awhile, though I'm surprised north pole didn't get the vfx changes that the other spears got to account for melee speed bonuses

[strange cargo]

Thats what the doctor said 😔 /j

[wary igloo]

dont complain about it it will get nerfed

[fathom girder]

okay that just looks like a cal vanilla buff lul

[wary igloo]

north pole does not need more slander

its already hated

[dull heart]

like yeah... i don't think i can really give this more range lol

[fathom girder]

well, hold onto that thought

[rough ruin]

Jank

[fathom girder]

you know how gungnir has that vfx to show its extra range?

[grave geyser]

its peak?

[fathom girder]

you could probably do the same thing for proboscis here to show the range, instead of physically moving the spear forward

shadow lance also has that vfx

[grave geyser]

it might be over I just fought ftw boc and went "wow this is the stat levels regular death brain should have" because he didnt crumple to playing the game normally

[fathom girder]

I don't remember if gungnir actually has it or not but I think it does

Boc phase 2's health is kinda silly yeah

it's like. 2

[dull heart]

tbh this is plenty range

[fathom girder]

for what the weapon does, I think the current range is fair yeah

my earlier comment was if you ever think it could use a range buff

[dull heart]

wait... crags grass allows you to walk up two high

with auto step

[fathom girder]

the grass is alive

it helps you walk

[dull heart]

wait no

i solved it

it's hammered but you just can't tell

[fathom girder]

oh

[deft lily]

kill

[fathom girder]

surely the crags/hell rework next update fixes this

[lapis oak]

sob

screen shake when ramming DoG's head is like so awesome

[dull heart]

taking one hit from border tornado with/without radiance

radiance is so strong

[lapis oak]

can already see this is gonna help a lot in balancing stuff

[rough ruin]

Hp regen go zoom

[wary igloo]

is it radiance being too strong or dots biting too hard

[lapis oak]

Exo Mechs only inflict Miracle Blight now right?

like other debuffs got removed/replaced with Miracle Blights

[amber egret]

we love radiance :)))

[hard copper]

nah pure vessel is better imo

[dull heart]

radiance being too strong

once the hp starts rising it's so much faster on radiance

[wary igloo]

shining in our radiance

[dull heart]

specifically it's ampoule

red is ampoule, green is radiance, white is neither

i'm 90% sure this is due to the natural regen provided during regen debuffs

this is over a 19 second timespan for the entire graph

[dusk bronze]

yeah ampoule is cracked

[dull heart]

by the end of that 19 seconds you have DOUBLE the hp% due to ampoule

[dusk bronze]

i was completely outhealing blood boiler

[grave geyser]

thank you game mechanics for being very normal

[dull heart]

wait

i think radiance natural regen when under debuffs was removed

... is this from honey??

[grave geyser]

honey buff.

[dusk bronze]

lo

[pulsar cobalt]

i think its from honeys natural regen factor reduction

[dull heart]

note: i was standing still in all these

[pulsar cobalt]

making you get to start using natural regen much faster

[dull heart]

so honey may have floored to 900

lets see what just cutting honey does to it

[grave geyser]

oh.
that changes the graph entirely

[dull heart]

yes it does

[pulsar cobalt]

if it is this, then fearmonger will achieve similar results

[dull heart]

well, i was standing still by the time dragonfire ended

[dense sundial]

death mode 🥀

[dull heart]

ok it's not honey

yellow is honey removed

is it... radiant ooze...?

is ooze THAT insane??

[pulsar cobalt]

is radiant ooze bugged again

[dull heart]

no

i think it's just cracked

[pulsar cobalt]

it gives 3hp/s when ur at half iirc

[hasty tangle]

what's the timeframe?

[pulsar cobalt]

it shouldnt be that good

[dull heart]

19 seconds

[pulsar cobalt]

ur only checking ampoule rn right

[dull heart]

this is radiance

the yellow

[pulsar cobalt]

oh

[dull heart]

and the green

[pulsar cobalt]

well radiance gives a lot more than just the radiant ooze effect

[dull heart]

yeah

but it's not honey, and it's something Ampoule shares too (red is ampoule)

so time to test Radiance if i just kill ooze entirely

[viral crypt]

https://youtu.be/HKVY3eiKUpo?si=uD8dI0DC5wZl1PYC

Now this looks fun

[grave geyser]

ip grabber

[dull heart]

it.. it is radiant ooze

[lapis oak]

IP grabbed

[dull heart]

i love how i knew what this was before i clicked on it

i knew it was the gp nohit

[hasty tangle]

[dull heart]

ok no

it's not radiant ooze

hmm

is it dragonfire being halved??

[pulsar cobalt]

it could be the infected jewel effect

it starts at 5hp/s

[dull heart]

no

it's not because Ampoule had it too

the red and green are ampoule and radiance respectively

and they're very close

[pulsar cobalt]

isnt dragonfire alr only inflicted by like a second now

[dull heart]

not on bordernado

[pulsar cobalt]

3 seconds

[dull heart]

huh

why am i taking less damage now

i accidentally changed my armor...

[lapis oak]

vibe code moment?

ah

[misty wren]

we're killing kiri

[dull heart]

ok i can adjust for this tho

[lapis oak]

what I do 😭

[dull heart]

ok so

honey, ooze, and halved debuff duration

all seem to be the same power at this stage

so it's not any one of them, but all 3 together

[grave geyser]

incredible

[dull heart]

lemme try just ooze

for comparison

[lapis oak]

useful graph

[dull heart]

guh i muse have messed something up BAD in my testing i'm taking more damage with ooze than with nothing

time to redo it

[hard copper]

you could try honey dew to see if this replicating thing was actually removed

[dull heart]

it was

[dense sundial]

what does +10 max health even do

[sacred marlin]

Add a line to the item description

[pulsar cobalt]

it increases natural health regen!!!!

and uhh

make you survive a hit

sometimes.

rarely.

[lapis oak]

make you survive 1 second Poisoned

[main falcon]

Should be +1000 max health divided per health upgrade

A get fixed boy change

[dull heart]

??? i can't replicate this like

at all

[lapis oak]

is this vibe code moment chat

[dull heart]

ok wiat

wait

the debuff stopped getting halved...

what

nvm it is

[boreal pewter]

Probably best to be testing without standing still since these accs give super extra regen when still and in 99% of circumstances (that aren't facetanking) you aren't getting the standing still bonuses in combat situations

[amber egret]

ooze is nuts dude

ive been saying this since i started using it

+6 regeneration while low enough is like

fuckin nanomachines (not the item)

[dull heart]

i think my mod broke

i don't think the graph is updating

[amber egret]

it will genuinely patch you back up kiss your forehead then beat up your bullies its THAT good

[hard copper]

ooze wouldnt explain the accelerating regen seen here though I think

[amber egret]

well thats just bc healing gets faster the more you do

[hard copper]

yeah from natural regen, its just a hell of a lot

[dull heart]

yeah that's just natural regen

is it because i'm not hitting the boss in my current setup hmm

[placid ocean]

so like +10 max health and like

forever +1hp regen

[dull heart]

Ok

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1093384209378320386/1481847846771888160/image.png?ex=69b4cdda&is=69b37c5a&hm=3c81ffcb0ae6131936c6ef8da5e76e3086004de4c431c72a3385bc3269fb0399&

Base vs ooze vs radiance

While moving

[hard copper]

yep, x3 natural regen too

[dull heart]

28 second timespan

[placid ocean]

whuh

[dull heart]

honey is so strong of a buff

[rough ruin]

Damn nautral regen is slow

[placid ocean]

honey gives x3 natural regen?

[dull heart]

no

[placid ocean]

or what am i missing

[placid ocean]

how

[dull heart]

It gives 3x natural regen recovery speed though

So natural regen comes back faster after being hit

[placid ocean]

oh

nice

[grave geyser]

god if honey gave 3x natural regen

[grave geyser]

(its 4x I'm pretty sure)

[dull heart]

peak

[dull heart]

Ok this is a bad comparison I didn't even have well fed

[grave geyser]

why does life drain give 6x natural regen recovery what the fuck

[dull heart]

shiny stone regenator meta clearly

[grave geyser]

well no

shiny stone regenator has a lot of things that hold it back

[rancid pagoda]

shiny stone goes away from lots of things, you literally can't do anything except passively deal damage with minions or use some right clicks

[grave geyser]

pretty much

the only reason sphere works so well is because its both incredibly long lasting and doesnt update dynamically

theres not a lot of things that do that

[rancid pagoda]

wait what

you can throw it out with max boost and it just stays???

[dull heart]

if i remove debuff halving entirely from radiance

[grave geyser]

yes

[lapis oak]

(many holdout weapons do that too)

[dull heart]

cryo stone does this

[rancid pagoda]

how long do you think this will survive

[dull heart]

cryo stone also allows holding psycho too

[grave geyser]

I genuenely forgot cryo stone didnt update dynamically

[lapis oak]

Sphere already dead in 2.1.3 I think doze said that not long ago

[dull heart]

so you could probably hit like

800 dmg

with iv drip/of probably over 1000

[grave geyser]

wait I just remembered neither does howls heart (or well it does just in an inredibly jank way)

[grave geyser]

go my double scaling

[rough ruin]

That how you were getting your super fast DoG times before🤔

[grave geyser]

yes

[rough ruin]

Ah

[rancid pagoda]

well DoG drops a magic weapon that deletes him just as fast without these extreme damage boosts

[grave geyser]

I somehow doubt it just straight up kills him in a minute flat

[dull heart]

ok

with just shiny stone, regenator, iv drip, old fashioned, basic buffs

and psycho

[grave geyser]

new deus killer just dropped

[dull heart]

it does ignore pierce resist...

[rancid pagoda]

sure does, I got 45 seconds on DoG with Hyperdeath Rift Scepter

[lapis oak]

crazy discovery

[rough ruin]

Activate cryo blender

❄️

[rancid pagoda]

not sure how it's so strong, maybe it's Arc Flash Ring

[grave geyser]

afr would do it yeah

[dull heart]

yea

quick godmode test without any real gear bc i wanted to

the boss hp graph for deus is very funny

[rancid pagoda]

but I gotta say The Pointer is literally helping me do more damage than most other accessories

[dull heart]

it's so peak

[pulsar cobalt]

oh cuz it splits lol

[lapis oak]

Pointer top 5 accessories

[rough ruin]

Had me confused but forgot phase 2 has double the hp compared to first

[dull heart]

i forgot to count boss minions on boss HP graph...

[pulsar cobalt]

pointer would be cooler if more weapons benefitted from it

[rancid pagoda]

hitting Yharon off-screen with Primordial Ancient

[dull heart]

yharon is the ideal boss for the pointer

[pulsar cobalt]

try slime god

[dull heart]

hmmm

[tropic jolt]

👀

[rough ruin]

Well that's interesting

[pulsar cobalt]

yea thats wat i thought lol

[grave geyser]

this was pre bugfix :)

[dull heart]

i know how to fix it

[grave geyser]

this is post

[tropic jolt]

[rough ruin]

That seems pretty fast

[pulsar cobalt]

it is

[rough ruin]

Maybe I ought to do a Mage playthrough after my wheel of fortune run

Casting 1 million different spells sounds like a lovely recipe for chaos

[rancid pagoda]

lots of good weapons now and not stuck with homing only if you use The Pointer

[rough ruin]

Still so much to explore and try out🙏

[obtuse hawk]

what's rtn

[grave geyser]

reaper tooth necklace

[obtuse hawk]

ah

[dull heart]

duststorm or singularity

[lapis oak]

Singularity

let me see the progress on that thing

[dull heart]

no

[lapis oak]

wtf

[pulsar cobalt]

why would u say that when we have already seen part of its function...

[gloomy grove]

the wand

[lapis oak]

wip...

[dull heart]

tooltip btw

[arctic cliff]

agreed

[dull heart]

ok

the field also pulls in enemies as seen in the estrogen bomb clip

which is very fun on old duke

[arctic cliff]

why is it called the estrogen bomb...?

[pulsar cobalt]

because u can make it trans

[dull heart]

i feel like the estrogen bomb makes sense when you just look at it

[silent wren]

hell yeah

[lyric trellis]

More ways to destroy post-dog moons

[dull schooner]

fire

[lyric trellis]

To balance this out, return to the 2019 deathmode moons where the enemies two shot you and you get 0 iframes for some reason

[gleaming hatch]

alternatively i can cope and use it as a wave pounder substitute vs dog

[dull heart]

it's cooler than wave pounder tbh

[gleaming hatch]

thats all i needed to hear

[dull heart]

it's also good at both single and multi target

[lapis oak]

Wave Pounder died so Singularity could live

[latent portal]

dang that thing in the spoilers channel looks funny af

[lyric trellis]

Funny enough, like wave pounder was, the current sealed singularity is already mid/bad on tier but meta on DoG

[dull heart]

true

sealed singularity on gfb should just be a soccer ball

[gleaming hatch]

idek whats best rogue wep vs dog anymore

i just use jaws and stealth head

[dull heart]

i wonder if duststorm obliterates deus

[lyric trellis]

Seriously probably Sealed Singularity unless I’m forgetting something exists

[lyric trellis]

As always

[lapis oak]

Deus Obliterator number 500

[dull heart]

like deus aint gonna like this

[gleaming hatch]

oh hell no lmfao

its cooked

for the worm

[lyric trellis]

Good for swarm deus

[dull heart]

duststorm should be fun for the moons

actually the whole line should be very fun for events

but lemon 'nade has no real event to use it on besides maybe acid rain and ooa

(it's post goblins)

[lapis oak]

what...

[grave geyser]

is this just because you didnt want to even bother balancing it on ds

[lapis oak]

Goblin Tinkerer sell it's over

[gleaming hatch]

off topic but was using optic staff in vanilla today and i remember abt the brothers staff post calclone and was like

[dull heart]

no it's bc i wanted an excuse for it to be stronger and usable longer but still obtainable pre boss

[gleaming hatch]

i lowkey want an artemis and apollo minion now

[dull heart]

and bc rogue has no post goblins weapon anymore

have fun

[gleaming hatch]

whats the pink item again

pink gel?

[dull heart]

bouncy grenade

[gleaming hatch]

ahsht

lemonade

incoming

[dull heart]

lemon 'nade feels so satisfying to use

[gleaming hatch]

rdy to just throw lemonade onto brains eyes

[lyric trellis]

Not the weapon using other classes weapons in the recipe 🥀

[gleaming hatch]

eyeballs no match for citrus

[lyric trellis]

Though honestly my bigger issue is how likely is it for a new player to come across this

[dull heart]

also my biggest concern with it but like

dunno how to make that better while making sense in the recipe and keeping it semi-difficult to get

at the same time

lemon 'nade isn't the most "new player friendly" item to exist anyway due to self damage

[lapis oak]

Diamond infused Lemon

[dull heart]

so i don't mind the obtainment being more niche

[lyric trellis]

Traveling merchant sell or crate drop (idk how hell these would be to implement)

[dull heart]

actually due to a lot of reasons

[lapis oak]

I will forever forget Tenebreus Tide is craftable pre-ML because of non on-tier mats in its recipe

[dull heart]

• having to time your throws
• self damage if you're bad at timing/ too greedy
• gravity bouncy

[lapis oak]

gravity bouncy should be a plus?

[dull heart]

makes it harder to actually hit where you want

basically lemon 'nade is a lot of timing

[lapis oak]

oh what it bounces of enemies?

[dull heart]

yes

[lapis oak]

lo

[dull heart]

unless the fuse is already about to explode

it bounces off them and does 1 dmg

lemon 'nade is still easier to use than duststorm though bc to really abuse duststorm you need to manipulate enemy positioning and plan platforms where you want them

[grave geyser]

fishbone....

[lyric trellis]

Still feels a bit ech if it’s a component of the penultimate rogue bomb honestly but can’t think of a better solution that keeps the recipe and weird niche obtainable

[dull heart]

recipe browser will make finding it from other supernova components easy

vanilla guide won't but like

calamity is a wiki game problem isn't unique to this

[hushed monolith]

why is the eow plush that much anyway

[dull heart]

it's segmented

$10 per segment

[hushed monolith]

send picture

[lapis oak]

I saw first 2 words "Gp" typing and I thought you were actually GP my brain is rotted from my own doing...

[dull heart]

yknow i wanted to put lemon 'nade post ml at first because it was very fun to use there

but that would have been silly

[lyric trellis]

Sure but that doesn’t mean stuff like lilies of finality are fine existing as is just because of the wiki (but that’s an extreme example because nobody is seriously finding this naturally)

[dull heart]

lillies is fine

especially bc it's self contained

if it was a component of some major thing it'd be more problematic

[hushed monolith]

i want to see the plush

[dull heart]

go look it up

[hushed monolith]

:(

[lyric trellis]

Only because it’s a fabsol weapon so nobody cares clearly

[hushed monolith]

do they velcrow

of how does it work

or

[dull heart]

tied

[hushed monolith]

ahh

[fathom girder]

I don't like the implications of this

The terrarian is tony starking a lemon into 99 excessively dangerous explosives

[frozen horizon]

Is that Cave Johnson from Portal: 2?

[fathom girder]

rather

[grave geyser]

thank you for making giant pearl work on bosses :)

[fathom girder]

he's infusing 99 grenades into a lemon

somehow

[lyric trellis]

Oh this is real

[grave geyser]

6s is possible

sub 6 is a wip

[fathom girder]

you think this could break any other bosses

[grave geyser]

certainly

not not as easilly

[fathom girder]

can I nuke storm weaver

for being a shitty boss

with this tech

[dull heart]

wait does cryo stone not do this better

or is giant pearl stun duration longer

[grave geyser]

HELL YEAH

[fathom girder]

so much for wip

sub 4 when

[grave geyser]

how long is cryo stone

[lyric trellis]

We just have to make deus invincible at this point

[thorny fjord]

This noise is great

[grave geyser]

sub 4 is physically impossible because of the p2 transition
you would have to litterally oneshot him

[fathom girder]

oh

[lyric trellis]

For the entire 3 minutes

[fathom girder]

Uhhhhhhhhh could you stack cryo stone and giant pearl

[dull heart]

0.5s

[fathom girder]

like would that work

[dull heart]

idk how long pearl aura is

[fathom girder]

I'd think cryo stone would help with its aoe mostly

[grave geyser]

hm

[pulsar cobalt]

giant pearl doesnt stun it just slows

[dull heart]

pearl aura is 20 frames

0.33s

[grave geyser]

ok

[pulsar cobalt]

like vul hex but a lot more noticable

not sure how it interacts with worms tho

[grave geyser]

ok yeah cryo stone isnt nearly as consistent with getting the stun

[pulsar cobalt]

i did see a clip of perfs just not being able to hit you tho that was funny

[fathom girder]

how neutered would destroyer be

if you did this against him

[dull heart]

it can be 4x the slow strength tho

[grave geyser]

so the reason this works so well vs deus

[dull heart]

iimune to debuff

[grave geyser]

is bc you know exactly where deus will spawn

also that

[fathom girder]

oh

[dull heart]

cryo stone is fun for fishron for similar reason

[fathom girder]

alright well next up does this break exos for true melee

[grave geyser]

no

[fathom girder]

damnit

what's even the point

[grave geyser]

killing deus in 5 seconds clearly

[dull heart]

but the damage it deals might make up for being harder to do, especially if psycho knife regenator shiny stone spanwed

[pulsar cobalt]

in a tank setup against wof u can replace boots with pearl its funny

[fathom girder]

bruh

[dull heart]

bosses can only be stunned once every 30 seconds

[grave geyser]

better teslas amulet than teslas amulet

god teslas amulet is so bad

[pulsar cobalt]

LIKE ACTUALLY

[grave geyser]

why did they just get rid of the slow

[dull heart]

wait what

[grave geyser]

it litterally does not slow

[dull heart]

it doesn't apply galvanic corrosion??

[grave geyser]

no

[dull heart]

wh

why

[fathom girder]

tesla's amulet is just a damage aoe that applies electrified

[grave geyser]

not even electrifeid

[dull heart]

isn't it static discharge

[grave geyser]

static discharge

[dull heart]

yeah

[lapis oak]

Static Discharge

[dull heart]

i...

[fathom girder]

luhmao

[dull heart]

why...

[dusk bronze]

[grave geyser]

its so asssss

[fathom girder]

best accessory ever made

[pulsar cobalt]

and the damage is bad

[grave geyser]

^

[pulsar cobalt]

like actually so bad

[dull heart]

the stun would barely have made it worth a slot...

[grave geyser]

it cant even handle bees

bees

[lapis oak]

post Evils 2 btw

[dull heart]

screw it 60s of galvanic corrosion

[fathom girder]

it should apply vermillion flux actually

[pulsar cobalt]

i didnt do much testing but like it was replaced immediately for me when i could

[fathom girder]

as a reference to blunder booster

[dusk bronze]

nah

[fathom girder]

which is tesla's amulet but red

[dusk bronze]

auric rebuke

[dull heart]

either it needs to do like

[fathom girder]

and applies vermillion flux

[dull heart]

real damage

or stun

[fathom girder]

WAIT wait

what if

WHAT if

[lapis oak]

no

[fathom girder]

it has a hotkey and pressing the hotkey spawns the aura on an enemy for x seconds with x cooldown

[pulsar cobalt]

btw luxors summoner is just the best luxor class and its not even close

[fathom girder]

bam BAM now it's cool

[dusk bronze]

no more hotkeys 😭

[fathom girder]

:(

[pulsar cobalt]

even classless on ds, where u think its inf piercing would be better

nope its summoner

plus it homes and has basically infinite range

[fathom girder]

if luxor's scaled with literally anything it'd be fine with other options I bet

[grave geyser]

classless or weaponless

[fathom girder]

but it doesn't

[grave geyser]

bc weaponless has no reason to use luxors to begin with

[fathom girder]

woe, 5 damage upon ye

[grave geyser]

because ds dies in like 12 seconds

[pulsar cobalt]

i mean classless luxor projectile

[grave geyser]

ah

[spice mist]

Is the murasama overhaul happening?

[fathom girder]

eventually

[polar tide]

you actually cannot play terraria if you're not autistic

[lyric vortex]

Wait are these genuinely top questions?

[placid ocean]

yes

[distant raft]

google hallucinates questions like theres no chance people are actually asking these a similar amount

[lyric vortex]

Why are 85% of autistic adults unemployed?

[distant raft]

and then the terrarian takes off their mask and reveals that they were yharim the entire time and everyone clapped credits roll

[lyric vortex]

Also well at least this let's me know that Terraria is indeed a wiki game

[lyric vortex]

That'd be pretty cool honestly

[stark pond]

amidst these terraria autism questions here lies why autistic adult are unemployed

[placid ocean]

why are the names yharim and yharon so similar

[arctic cliff]

i reckon yharim either renamed himself to that in honor of his new buddy or because it was granted to him by the god cult, who assumed he would take yharon's soul for himself

[lapis oak]

Old ancient ass names from 2016

[arctic cliff]

yhorming my yharnam to this

[lyric vortex]

Wait Yharon is no longer his like pet?

[arctic cliff]

friend

[lyric vortex]

Oh

[arctic cliff]

partners in crime (genocide)

[lyric vortex]

[rose laurel]

Best friends forever

Even in genocide

Nothing will set them apart ❤️

[tribal isle]

That’s infaccurate

[silk current]

What is the 10 seconds rule

Is it like food

[placid ocean]

isnt that 5-6 seconds

autism rules are prob different

[tribal isle]

6-7

[silk current]

So people with autism can last 100% longer on the floor than food

[placid ocean]

that is not funny brotosynthesis

[proud plover]

Handheld tank kind of recipe

[warm current]

Spring bench?

Sounds like a fun way to go to planetoid pre-HM

[warm current]

COMBUSTIBLE LEMON?!

[high scaffold]

If it doesnt burn down the houses Ill be dissapointed

[warm current]

Yeah lol requires divine geode to fuse with shroomer and for some reason needs tiger skin too lmao

[high scaffold]

Because tiger tank

[warm current]

OH WAIT THAT'S GERMAN TANK?!

I was wondering why it needs tiger skin this whole time

And it looks like a sherman with long barrel to me sometime

[proud plover]

I mean the the tank recipe using rocket launcher (since 2.1) + divine geode makes sense as you need something to make it post-providence. The tigerskin is just a pain to get, same as the lemon for lemonade

[warm current]

Wait wut

I didn't notice it's recipe changed now

[lapis oak]

Feller of Evergreens

[proud plover]

Right

Forgot about that

[warm current]

Is slagfire douser guaranteed to be in chest or nah?

[hoary edge]

ye

in the chest located in brimstone crag bridge

[fierce nebula]

🫧🦈

[dim kettle]

is this background from cal or an addon
is it new bc it goes hard

[hushed hazel]

From cal

And it is new yes

[tribal isle]

imo they should remove astrum aureus for less boss bloat and less work on the reworks

[fierce nebula]

Hop off my goat

[desert garnet]

Nah

[tribal isle]

wheres the trove server tag

[desert garnet]

Imo hes fine

[fierce nebula]

That server is only active whenever they break the game

Which happens very frequently

[steady sun]

i thought that game died like

forever ago

[fierce nebula]

No

[tribal isle]

well ur wrong!!!

[steady sun]

wild

[fierce nebula]

A week ago club worlds would kick you out after 20 seconds, you couldn’t load into any other worlds without getting into loading screeb purgatory that you had to relog 10 times to fix. You have a chance of getting perma locked out of the game until they do a server restart, at random times of the day the game became impossible to log into. Every form of trading was shut down

So the discord server was pretty active

[tribal isle]

W trove

[fierce nebula]

It was great I loved watching people ask why they couldn’t play the game

[jagged copper]

the aureus hate continues...

my guy cannot catch a break

[hushed hazel]

Very few bosses can

[burnt basin]

does someone have a list of the recommended order to beat every calamity/vanilla boss plssss

[desert garnet]

boss checklist lite

[burnt basin]

oh sop that was in order? thanks

[desert garnet]

ye

just be aware that some bosses are on the same tier

so you can choose which one to fight first

[burnt basin]

is boss checklist lite different to just the boss checklist?

idk

[desert garnet]

it doenst have those pesky bugs

sometimes normal boss checklist check half of the bosses as dead

[burnt basin]

alr. if i remove boss checklist and add checklist lite, will adding the lite show my worlds bosses ive already defeated or do i have to defeat them again to check them off

[desert garnet]

the lite should show them as defeated, but just for you to know, the lite doesnt have the book

[burnt basin]

what does it use

[desert garnet]

it uses the keybind list

[burnt basin]

hmm okay

[desert garnet]

which is also in normal checklist

[burnt basin]

what do u mean by keybind list tho

[desert garnet]

in the controls setting, you can bind the list into a keybind and it will show a very simple boss list

it only show you the bosslist with the same order, and how to summon those bosses

[burnt basin]

sweet. thanks pal

[solemn crest]

Boss checklist lite review

I wonder how this dude feels about ozz

[fathom girder]

you think fab paid this guy off

[solemn crest]

Fab alt account?

[spark kiln]

stole calamity lul

[hasty tangle]

How the Ozz Stole Calamity-mas

[fathom girder]

The yap does make it look like a fab alt account

[hushed hazel]

No probably just a meme

Or they’re dumb

Either or

[pseudo vector]

rather strange user

[hushed hazel]

Fab doesn’t strike me as the type of guy to pretend like he has people backing him up

[high scaffold]

You underestimate how out of touch people can be

[harsh cypress]

the wording he's using does seem like he's putting up an act...but never know

[hushed hazel]

If it was fab he’d just be vagueposting about it in his status or something rather than hijacking the hate speech to complain

[rough vine]

its a copypasta all he did was swap rhe subject

[hushed hazel]

Yeah fab wouldn’t do that

[solemn crest]

You haven’t seen YouTube comments…

[hushed hazel]

I have but I’m not talking about YouTube comments I’m talking about fab

[solemn crest]

Oh I see what you’re saying now

[hushed hazel]

If fab knew literally everyone in the world disagreed with him on something he’d still puff out his chest and proudly declare himself in the right

[pearl sentinel]

Tetanus joe

[hushed hazel]

Considering how he bragged about being the owner of cal for no reason that time the risk of rain soundtracks guy got passive aggressive over the terroguelike mod using risk of rain music allegedly without asking him first, there is no reality in which I can imagine fab hiding behind fake usernames to give himself credit

He can do that perfectly well on his own

[hushed hazel]

Tetanus Joe

[deft lily]

[pearl sentinel]

Are you tetanus Joe because you have tetanus or because you inflict tetanus

[hushed hazel]

Both

[eager bone]

i don't understand this mentality, why does fabsol have so many shooters? do people see the fact he was kicked out partly for the transphobia and they take that as an attack by the Woke? it's the only thing i can think of, that these people imagine themselves to be contrarian and cool and edgy just because they're supporting the guy who got heckin cancelled by cancel culture

[solemn crest]

Yeah that sums it up pretty well

[solemn crest]

Caterpillar!

[deft lily]

creature

[solemn crest]

Umbara rich again

[deft lily]

those who know

[tropic jolt]

[deft lily]

calamity has been TAKEN OVER by the evil WOKE RADICAL LEFT!

[solemn crest]

Calamity GONE WOKE???

This is why we need to reintroduce drunk princess but make her ftm

[deep bough]

drunk prince and its a buff dude

[solemn crest]

Exactly

Ykw sober him up too

[late eagle]

We should make a Lucille npc

[solemn crest]

The sober prince

[deep bough]

sells water

[solemn crest]

And testosterone

[deft lily]

no cuz it isnt a fab self insert atp

[solemn crest]

Ironic that the transphobe decided to represent himself as a woman

[strange cargo]

I’ve been thinking that lol

[deft lily]

[tropic jolt]

drunk prince is just old duke

[strange cargo]

Senile swine — Boring Boar

[deft lily]

horrible hog

[polar tide]

this person has been posting comments like this on ozz's stuff for months. i guess now that they've finally been blocked they're doing it on other mods. hilarious

[eager bone]

god, god, god, god, god happy fun lalala azafure smuggling godseeker deaths, forced auric soul consumption

[strange cargo]

The horrible is coming, and if you aren’t a believer, you will witness the horrors

[twin juniper]

Is it tomorrow yet

[deft lily]

[strange cargo]

Say you swear Yharim is a right wing extremist equivalent

[rich raft]

How calamity gets att?

[kindred fox]

Always is

[rich raft]

When the att is drop?

[polar tide]

what is att

[kindred fox]

He used to be a lihzard

[strange cargo]

Yharim is the average trans man

Aura farming

[rich raft]

Update

[deft lily]

[solemn crest]

Is Yharim good at building🤔

[polar tide]

there was an update a month ago

[eager bone]

• ethnic cleanser
• declares himself king
• went from country to country ravaging for his own gains
  #WhatThe #Hmmm #DatSoundsFamiliar 👀

[kindred fox]

I think this is real

[solemn crest]

YHARIM IS TRUMP??? WHY IS THE THE BAD GUY THEN 😡😡😡😡

[deft lily]

this convo sucks now

sso sometime

[rich raft]

But is the update they Said change a Lot of the mod?

[strange cargo]

Sunken swine out tomorrow

[solemn crest]

What

[deft lily]

what the fuck was that previous image

[solemn crest]

How tf that is not even what I posted

[polar tide]

it has 3000+ changes so

[rich raft]

When suken Sea update drop?

[solemn crest]

THAT’s what I posted

[prisma cipher]

Sometime

[polar tide]

refer to pins

[solemn crest]

How tf was it replaced by liberal gif???

[twin juniper]

Tomorrow

[polar tide]

wait holy shit i didnt see this

genuinely incredible

[solemn crest]

Gonna put that in the sso tomorrow image

[azure oak]

thnak you

[deft lily]

every character in cal should become trans me thinks

[polar tide]

they already are

[solemn crest]

🔥 🔥 🔥

[prisma cipher]

Can we have a train in calamity mod

[deft lily]

no cishet people allowed in calamity

[prisma cipher]

I like trains

[solemn crest]

No cishet/neurotypical

[polar tide]

goodnight

[azure oak]

there are no neurotypical people in calamity

[prisma cipher]

The one who goes to bed:

[strange cargo]

He who sleeps

[deft lily]

grrr how dare they live their lives how they wanna live it grrr

😠

outrageous!!

[severe coral]

No normies allowed

[solemn crest]

Let me go back to my ULTRA HARDCORE ANTI WOKE CALAMITY MOD

[deft lily]

im going to invade cal overhaul because it has code of mass destruction

what could go wrong

[prisma cipher]

It’s not cal overhaul, it’s boss checklist you idiot

[solemn crest]

It’s always cal overhaul

[late eagle]

The murasama mod

[solemn crest]

Murasama overrated

Embrace cosmic discharge

[prisma cipher]

I like Sahara slicers more

[prisma cipher]

TRUE

[late eagle]

Calamity should remove murasama instead we'll have a giant ice cream sword

[deft lily]

noway

[late eagle]

Flavor of your choice

[prisma cipher]

Even candy cane flavor?

[solemn crest]

Murasamilk? Milkasama? Murasicecream?

[late eagle]

Your choice

[solemn crest]

Is terraria world flat?