calamity-update-talk

[pseudo vector]

the wiki updates are still wip, the last update was massive and requires a lot of work to bring everything up to date

[tribal isle]

How massive

[lean relic]

Biggest in cal history

[hoary merlin]

Does everyone really complained about the true paladinian mage hammer being worst after they remade it?

[desert garnet]

idk what changed in this weapon but there is always someone who will complain after every change

[hoary merlin]

not some, I'm sure there is a lot included me too

it a fucking "endgame" weapon

and somehow it doesn't do much damage at all

[lean relic]

its strong, like very
but Earth's exist makes it look very weak

[desert garnet]

from what i heard, you throw it as fast as every other hammer now

[hoary merlin]

pretty mid, I put it on B tier because the passive is cool

[hoary merlin]

no I'm serious it not strong at all

[tawny spear]

thats true

[tawny spear]

earth rework overshadow it

[hoary merlin]

I expected the what it call the three hammer collapsing explosive is suppose to deal a massive amount of damage but it isn't

[tawny spear]

Do they rework any ranger endgame weapon?

[hoary merlin]

no

[tawny spear]

I can only see meele and rogue endgame being rework on the last dev update chart

[hoary merlin]

because you are right, ranger doesn't receive any endgame changing at all

[tawny spear]

really sad it was my fav class

[hoary merlin]

For me earth is good, really good

[tawny spear]

earth is the highest knockback weapon

[hoary merlin]

but I also need a range attack melee too

[tawny spear]

you don't need range, i think i could show u a video of people test out earth and cheese DoG

its crazy

[hoary merlin]

it true melee after all, so it can't be at the top tier

[tawny spear]

hold on

[hoary merlin]

I already tested on boss rush

and the performance is pretty bad against the boss that keep the distance

especially against the supreme witch

that is the moment for true paladinian mage hammer to show up, but the damage output is terrible

[tawny spear]

like exo twin eyes that shit impossible

[hoary merlin]

I feel like the old true paladinian mage hammer is better ngl

anyway, I hope in the next update they do something about the acid rain tier 3 too

because this shit suck

[tawny spear]

acid rain is kinda lame imo

[hoary merlin]

the infernum did is better ngl

[tawny spear]

i haven't try infernum yet but this new upd already fuck that mod up

[hoary merlin]

nah you should try it again, because I don't see anything wrong at all

nor anything unusual

[lean relic]

wait until SSO update
not Sunken Sea Overhaul the Sulphurous Sea Overhaul

[tawny spear]

ngl i find sunken sea more interesting than sulphurous unless we talking about the abyss

[meager escarp]

it is

[tawny spear]

facts

[lean relic]

give me like 30 seconds or minute to find the Sulphurous Sea Overhaul chart

[azure oak]

i still have it i think

[hoary merlin]

nah the tier 3 ost is fire though

[lean relic]

hell yes

can ya post it

[meager escarp]

you used battlecry tho

[meager escarp]

cuz theyre minibosses

not bosses

[hoary merlin]

yeah I already shared that once ytd

[lean relic]

funky

[hoary merlin]

nucleat terror? more like a mutated horror

[azure oak]

idk how much the plans will hold up in the future but old duke won't be part of acid rain anymore ( also getting renamed, resprited & reworked) and nuclear terror is gonna be the final boss of acid rain instead

[meager escarp]

alr

thats nice

[hoary merlin]

that is good news ngl

[tired adder]

horrible hog's father

[tawny spear]

wait that look nice

[tawny spear]

W old duke is cancerr

[meager escarp]

i love most of these resprites

[azure oak]

old duke effectively getting replaced

[meager escarp]

flak crab getting some love???

[tawny spear]

he look more fitting now

[azure oak]

can't wait for the exo mechs rework but at the same time i really hope the devs take their time with it and that it's an update for later down the line

[hoary merlin]

The old duke is too old for the acid rain, they has to retired bro from the gang

I hope they do less projectile after the changes

it fuck up my screen every time I activate the battlecry

[tawny spear]

please they need to rework it, but the problem is they're already well made. Idk what else could they fix

[azure oak]

devs want to do a complete overhaul of the ai cause none of them like the current fight iirc

[pseudo vector]

[azure oak]

hi music man

[wise bolt]

[azure oak]

hi tofu

[meager escarp]

oh my god its the REAL cdmusic

[tawny spear]

lol damn

[wise bolt]

hi broo

[meager escarp]

no way

[pseudo vector]

i will tell you rn that my motivation to actually work on the theme has been in the floor because the fight is so ass

[meager escarp]

its the REAL astrum deus???

[tired adder]

after all

[meager escarp]

exos?

[tired adder]

astrum deus is just species name

[wise bolt]

youre a species name

[meager escarp]

the exos theme is fine tho imo

[azure oak]

it was always meant to be a placeholder theme

cause it's from the infernum mech bosses

[tired adder]

remember, when people destroyed their entire worlds to fight exos?

[pseudo vector]

the current exos theme has been a placeholder for the last 4-5 years

[wise bolt]

cd in the exos pit

eternal exos

[pseudo vector]

and you have no idea how fucking embarassing it is for me that it's been that long

[lean relic]

the exo mines

[azure oak]

oh right exos is turning 5 in november

[meager escarp]

what

youre telling me THATS a placeholder???

[pseudo vector]

yes

[meager escarp]

thats insane

[wise bolt]

which one was it again ? the exos theme i mean

[meager escarp]

exos theme is already so fire 🥹

[azure oak]

inferior fabrications

[meager escarp]

inferior fabrications

[wise bolt]

ohh

[tired adder]

I watched some older Calamity vids a month ago or so

[wise bolt]

thought it was zenith fabrications for a sec but thats infernum exos

[lean relic]

how long Abyss Layer 3 placeholder was in mod

[meager escarp]

doesnt infernum exos have like 3 themes

like wth

[wise bolt]

idk

[plush carbon]

thankfully its not zenith fabrications

i think listening to that for that long would drive me mad

thats the theme for Infernum after taking out one of the exo mechs

otherwise its Catastrophic Fabrications

[meager escarp]

i love vernias face as the sun

[plush carbon]

and im sorry but i cant listen to SOLARIA for a whole ass fight

[tired adder]

and it's actually insane how static calamity was before brainstorm

[tired adder]

infernum exos have lyrics???

[meager escarp]

what does taking out of of the exos mechs mean

[wise bolt]

apparently

[meager escarp]

do you mean one of?

[plush carbon]

i meant to say one of

oops

[meager escarp]

they do???

i must listen

[wise bolt]

i remember one of my friends telling me the vocals in zenith went rly hard but i cant hear .any of the vocals over the music

[plush carbon]

Zenith Fabrications has lyrics
I have no idea what they are

YOu cannot make them out

[wise bolt]

just start speaking gibberish to the song's melody

ez

[hoary merlin]

someone said they heard "steal ball run"

[plush carbon]

its also ironically the Inferior of the three exos themes

[lean relic]

wha

[hoary merlin]

and I can't unhear it after that

[tired adder]

some weapons have been changed here and there, but otherwise mod has remained the same for past 6 years
especially including post-ML progression

[meager escarp]

why is the first minute just a shit ton of drums

[wise bolt]

zenith uses teto lol ???

[tired adder]

maybe even 7

[plush carbon]

honestly Catastrophic Fabrications is my favourite of the themes

[wise bolt]

oh the drums are funny sounding

[meager escarp]

dude...

[plush carbon]

infernum ost is always funny sounding

[meager escarp]

i cannot escape sky after rain

[tired adder]

what about Dei Machinae?

[meager escarp]

why the hell is it in EVERY fucking theme

holy shit

[wise bolt]

dei machinae..

[meager escarp]

like i liked sky after rain but

[plush carbon]

thats not a Pinpin song

[meager escarp]

ts is absurd

[wise bolt]

gotta listen to it again

[hoary merlin]

because it more like a desperate phase of the boss

[meager escarp]

ludicrous

[wise bolt]

forgot what it sounded like ,,

[plush carbon]

RIGHT??????

[meager escarp]

diabolical

[plush carbon]

This is LITERALLY one of the main issues I have with Infernum OST

[meager escarp]

like give me a BREAK

it doesnt even have the vocals of the theme

its just the motif

[plush carbon]

Sky After Rain worming its way into every composition like a parasitic infection

[meager escarp]

actually another thing

what the hell are the lyrics of sky after rain

i love the ost but i have ZERO idea

[plush carbon]

its a vent post from Pinpin iirc

[tired adder]

yes, but it has a mod, so it can play during exos without external players

[meager escarp]

now that i think about it

yknow ares' shoulders

they DO look like speakers

[wise bolt]

kind of tempted to try compose some exos related thing now

[meager escarp]

look below the pauldrons

they look like expensive speakers

[wise bolt]

only idk how to compose. ah well

[cunning sequoia]

dei machinae my beloved

[meager escarp]

the lil joint things

[azure oak]

exo mechs theme is canon, draedon just blasts it at full volume

[tired adder]

do MMX-styled arrangement

we had enough orchestral and metal stuff

[wise bolt]

i have no idea what that is. i do not havw the slightest inkling of music terms

[tired adder]

time to go back to basics

[wise bolt]

i just draw bro

[cunning sequoia]

mega man x

[wise bolt]

oh LMFAO

[cunning sequoia]

good game good music

[pseudo vector]

ugh just thinking about that it's been as long as it has and i'm still not done with exos just makes me actually fucking sad lol

[meager escarp]

i JUST realized artemis and apollo have different wing sprites

[cunning sequoia]

dont beat urself up about it

[wise bolt]

stop being sad and look at bugs with me

[meager escarp]

artemis has two rifles

[cunning sequoia]

whatever you come up with for it will be great trust me

[meager escarp]

on the tips of their wings and apollo has the classic wing design

[wise bolt]

look at her

[cunning sequoia]

buge

[pseudo vector]

buggy

[meager escarp]

is that a bumblebee?

[wise bolt]

yaa

big fluffy

[azure oak]

bunglebe

[tired adder]

kid-appeal character

[wise bolt]

its a good bug

[cunning sequoia]

my favorite bug

[wise bolt]

big, fuzzy, largely docile and yellow

[cunning sequoia]

i LOVE bumblbees

[wise bolt]

they can sting multiple times actually which is rly fun. theyve got smooth stingers

but theybdon't like stinging

[high scaffold]

White ass bumblbee

[wise bolt]

usually they'll give a warning via lifting up a lil leggy

all time favorite bumblebee pic

[cunning sequoia]

getting stung by a wasp makes me feel like i got insulted by some guy ive never met

getting stung by a bumblebee makes me feel like i made bob ross angry

[wise bolt]

i like wasps one sat on the bus home with me :)

LOOOLL

[hoary merlin]

just take a bite of it already

[meager escarp]

wha

[wise bolt]

ive never actually seen a bumblebee face 2 face except for a pinned one that i got for my birthday as a gift

[lyric vortex]

I feel like we should have more sort of electronic stuff like DoG trilogy and Infestation

[wise bolt]

i wish i could see them... but they're not native here

[cunning sequoia]

they usually pop up here in spring :)

[pseudo vector]

shameless plug but did anyone here listen to my new album

[cunning sequoia]

i gotta check that out once im out of class

[fierce hearth]

omg omg omg wauce

well, bee

but we're talking about wauce :)

[hoary merlin]

have you guys ever got stung by a wasp for like 13 time?

[wise bolt]

[azure oak]

exos should be very metal because i like electric guitars

[fierce hearth]

no, only time a bug has ever stung me while I was awake that wasn't a mosquito bite was a bee that drowsily climbed onto me after it got lost after sunset

[lyric vortex]

I didn't know you had a new album, I'll take a listen after finishing this thing

[fierce hearth]

and I didn't notice and got startled when I felt something crawl onto my neck

[wise bolt]

no but i did accidentally press my hand onto a dead wasp. poor thing

[fierce hearth]

got my ring finger blasted trying to grab at it

[wise bolt]

wauce ?

[lyric vortex]

Me too, shame there has been a lack of guitar solos since Dokuro's exit

[hoary merlin]

I mean bee is less dangerous than a wasp

[cunning sequoia]

cubic 1 was pretty cool

[fierce hearth]

true

[wise bolt]

bee goode. wasp also good

[pseudo vector]

i didn't want to plug cubic : volume 2 in the cal music server since its not cal related even though its made by me

[fierce hearth]

but a wasp sting isn't really "dangerous" until you go from 1 dozen to several dozen

[wise bolt]

both good :) wasps look kickass

[tired adder]

I listened to some of them as they came out

[fierce hearth]

funny way to say wasp

wauce

[wise bolt]

waucep

[tired adder]

I don't remember much of that, so I am going to say they were faithful

[hoary merlin]

I almost done for ngl, can't believe I'm still here rn

[wise bolt]

https://tenor.com/view/wasp-insect-gif-22724739

[tawny spear]

i hate wasp

[fierce hearth]

I love wasp

[wise bolt]

tiny beaste

[fierce hearth]

we are at war

[wise bolt]

good animal. i love them

so cuteee...

[tawny spear]

masochist

[hoary merlin]

I agree with you, wasp suck

[fierce hearth]

One of my gfs has a velvet ant sona and it's very very cute

[wise bolt]

fun fact: wasps like sweets

[cunning sequoia]

tofu has converted me

[wise bolt]

anything with sugars, they're craaazy for

[cunning sequoia]

im now wasp neutral

[tawny spear]

Trynna larp as bee but failed

[fierce hearth]

if they aren't big on sweets sometimes they'll eat Tree

[wise bolt]

for nesting material ya iirc. the paper like material or sum

or maybe some do literallybjust eat trees idk

[thorny glacier]

yuh
nest is hands down the best one in the entire project imo

[tawny spear]

they eat meats too they eat a lot of things

[wise bolt]

not entirely ! sugars are where they primarily get their energy. meats are taken back to the hive to feed the babies

[fierce hearth]

Did you know the smallest known insect is a wasp that lives almost its entire life (including the final instar/adult stage) inside of a thrip's egg

[wise bolt]

those little things need protein to grow into big workers

[fierce hearth]

it's smaller than some bacteria

[thorny glacier]

evil and ferocious monstrosity

[wise bolt]

so fruits, nectar, fizzy drinks, juices, anything sweet, they'll usually go for

[tawny spear]

i know, i feed wasp sometimes. They're just weird i don't like them

[wise bolt]

fair ya

[hoary merlin]

so does us

[wise bolt]

i think they're awfully lovely

[hoary merlin]

nah this is weird, hope no one get it

[tawny spear]

They're bum but it's okay cuz maybe they serve something in the ecology

[wise bolt]

they do :p

good pest control as well as pollinators

not as efficient as bees, but pollinators nonetheless

[fierce hearth]

While not as efficient they do fulfill important niches nonetheless

[hoary merlin]

even the father of biology was studied from a bee too

[meager escarp]

is that the guy from beastwars???

[fierce hearth]

Also I like parasitoid wasps a lot, it's the ones I look at most

[wise bolt]

little drone that kept me company on the bus

[tired adder]

yes, he's wasp

[meager escarp]

what do i change

on crabulon rn

[tawny spear]

that is a no no

[fierce hearth]

gently nibbling your skin...

[wise bolt]

you know he's a drone by the silly long antennae and lack of stinger

[meager escarp]

why do bosses do so much dmg

[wise bolt]

[meager escarp]

eauneda

[fierce hearth]

Someone cannot handle a spider hawk I see

[meager escarp]

whats a good rogue weapon for my stage

im pre eow btw

[wise bolt]

ooh, not a wasp but you might like neon cuckoo bees

[hoary merlin]

shield and the luxor of course

[meager escarp]

with what

[wise bolt]

vibrant blue, almost looks like a wasp- brood parasite species of the blue banded bee

[hoary merlin]

Black Glass Band

[meager escarp]

and the other one?

[fierce hearth]

oh that's gorgeous!!

[wise bolt]

EUHAHAHA OH MY GOD WAIT

[hoary merlin]

and the craw something like that

[wise bolt]

LOOKING FOR NEON CUCKOO BEE PICS. STUMBLED ACROSS SOMETHING BETTER

[meager escarp]

this?

[fierce hearth]

:o

[wise bolt]

yup !!

[meager escarp]

very cool bees

[wise bolt]

gorgeous little critters, alongside blue banded bees too

[meager escarp]

astrum deus bee edition 🤔

we just need an orange one

[fierce hearth]

orange is a common flavor of bee

[wise bolt]

both native australian pollinators. solitary

[hoary merlin]

craw carapace yeah that the thing

[wise bolt]

ALSO

[meager escarp]

guys shield of cthutlu or luxors

[wise bolt]

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[tired adder]

cyborg bee

[meager escarp]

wow

[fierce hearth]

YAY

YAHOO

[wise bolt]

bees r so stinkin CUTEE i love em

[fierce hearth]

most of my wasp and bee pics I have on hand are anthropomorphic ones I've drawn lmao

[wise bolt]

i have a little bumblebee guy with a cool biker hornet gf i need to draw them more

[fierce hearth]

If you aren't already aware of the artist btw, based on your vibes, check out Mothmonarch

[wise bolt]

ooh, cutee

[prisma cipher]

Bees r STINKY!!

[meager escarp]

ban this guy

now

[wise bolt]

YOURE stinky !!!!!

[prisma cipher]

Wtf

[fierce hearth]

Calamity is a pro-bees mod

[prisma cipher]

But yes I agree bees are really cute

[wise bolt]

🚿

[fierce hearth]

We literally are getting a bees improvement patch

[wise bolt]

sprays you

no longer stinker

HI ANDEL

[warm pulsar]

Beeposting

[wise bolt]

YEAAAAHHAHAHAHAAAH

[warm pulsar]

HI BRO

[prisma cipher]

I do like green bees

And blue bees

[wise bolt]

every time i walk into this channel it becomes bugposting 🥹

[wise bolt]

orchid b

[warm pulsar]

Real

[fierce hearth]

that's good, ping me next time :)

[prisma cipher]

Clearly an upgrade

[fierce hearth]

I love bug

[prisma cipher]

Yuh!

[hoary merlin]

Dang I didn't notice everyone here is Yharim's agenda

[wise bolt]

orchid bees r so so silly the drones stockpile scents in leg pouches to make perfumes

which they then use to try and win over a partner

[fierce hearth]

I'm mostly a spiders person but by proximity to my gf I've become a wasp+bee+ant person too

[wise bolt]

🥺

[vivid hemlock]

bee

[wise bolt]

hi bro

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/711268703991365642/1476600378039603382/IMG_8807.gif

[vivid hemlock]

hey tofu

the piller

[prisma cipher]

Stupid creature of destruction and gluttony

[hoary merlin]

is there any lore explanation of why does Yharim love Bee?

[wise bolt]

he do his lil jiggle

[fierce hearth]

I would post cute spiders but I don't wanna scare anyone 😔

[tired adder]

according to doze, he is composed off millions of bees

[prisma cipher]

The dance of havoc and calamity

[wise bolt]

idk from what i know he just respects them but everyone makes it sound like hes totally obsessed

though, the mental image with a little bumblebee perched atop his hand is very cute

[fierce hearth]

It's bc of the lore of him throwing a tantrum when he finds PBG

[wise bolt]

(unfortunately, it would get fried.)

yaa

[warm pulsar]

Buge

[tired adder]

where's that table, again?

[wise bolt]

🫵youre a buge

🐛

[hoary merlin]

I don't get it right now, Hope I can understanding that in the future

[fierce hearth]

table?

[warm pulsar]

Fairnuff

[wise bolt]

https://tenor.com/view/caterpillar-caterpillar-rock-caterpillar-dance-dance-bug-dance-gif-15966386895352811135

[hoary merlin]

you have a good point, it seem like everyone does make it sound like that

[wise bolt]

it like stands out or sum so people make it out to be a big thing

[hoary merlin]

omg, I hate larva

[wise bolt]

i think he would like bees, but not much beyond like, finding them amicable or somethin

[wise bolt]

i am so fuckign sorry you are talking to the guy with a million bajillion bookmarks of Just Caterpillars

[tawny spear]

Imagine a larva boss second phase turn into a butterfly

[hoary merlin]

I did saw one larva on the internet that it butt look like a snake head

it so creepy

[fierce hearth]

The actual reason he was angry had nothing to do with bees and everything to do with using force to bend people/life to your will

[wise bolt]

i lovw caterpillars theyre so so cute to me 🥹🥹

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/G-EYItmW8AE8F3a.gif

[fierce hearth]

And he found the combined abuse of a bioweapon and the natural organization of a hive in tandem particularly offensive

[tawny spear]

is mirror of kalandra still good

[fierce hearth]

was it ever? I never used it myself lmao

[tired adder]

apparently an anecdote from old lore

[hoary merlin]

then you probably love the centipede too aren't you?

[tawny spear]

i mean it summon multiple weapon like the temporal umbrella

[tired adder]

that yharim punched a table and killed everyone in 1 km vicinity with it

[fierce hearth]

that's really funny why the hell would they have him punch a table so hard the earth shook. is this a fucking shounen?

[vagrant wind]

even fuzzy pest caterpillars

[wise bolt]

not as big a fan but i find them amicable. i like the squishy little green long guys
inchworms, caterpillars, sawfly larva

https://tenor.com/view/worm-gif-3544848

[fierce hearth]

TOFU

[wise bolt]

wi

[hoary merlin]

you know what is that thing called in my country?

[wise bolt]

mm ?

[fierce hearth]

LOOK UP

[hoary merlin]

no I mean do you wanna know?

[fierce hearth]

SPRINGTAIL

[wise bolt]

ya

ALSO YEAAHAHHAAA I KNOW

Ive got this. awesome springtail pic stashed away let me get it

[fierce hearth]

Springtails don't look like they're real

[hoary merlin]

it kinda sound inappropriate, but we all called that a "nipple sucker"

[fierce hearth]

they look like an animal a whimsical science fiction story would make up but they'd be like the size of cows instead of 1 sniff large

[wise bolt]

LMFAO ?

[tawny spear]

what minion does people use as endgame summoner

[hoary merlin]

I'm seriously

we usually saw that on a banana tree

[fierce hearth]

endgame as in pre-scal/exos?

[wise bolt]

on chinese we call any variety of small squishy long green bugs "bean bugs"

cause they look like fucken beans

[hoary merlin]

yeah probably have it own name, I guess from what I know this is probably the common thing the local people are calling

[tawny spear]

yea

[wise bolt]

bean buggy

[tawny spear]

lillies of finalities?

[fierce hearth]

Saros is S tier, extremely powerful option. Including like 1 other summon as a single slot pick is sometimes good, but going pure Saros is hard to beat

Lilies are a decent choice for the 1 spare minion summon

[hoary merlin]

still some people are screaming when they seeing this

[wise bolt]

its a tiny squishy thang

schmovin' along

[fierce hearth]

it just a lil guy

Another benefit of Saros is that it gives you something to do when enemies are outside of whip range

or something to do if you're skipping whips altogether

Also worth mentioning that if you beat Scal first, you can exhume for Cinders of Lament for enormous active casting damage as a summoner

(just don't hurt yourself)

[hoary merlin]

it still not worth it

[fierce hearth]

miiiight be good against thanatos?

definitely useable against ares

[hoary merlin]

wait wait, it an accessories or weapon?

[fierce hearth]

weapon

[hoary merlin]

the two figure?

when you summon her?

[fierce hearth]

It's a non-minion summon weapon that repeatedly summons Scal's bros who charge at your position for big damage

[hoary merlin]

ohhhhh

the endgame weapon

[fierce hearth]

yea, it's available pre-exos if you kill Scal first

[hoary merlin]

what is the name of it?

[fierce hearth]

https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Cinders_of_Lament

[hoary merlin]

wait

I never know about this

you shimmer them? or enchant?

exume

[fierce hearth]

Exhuming is a unique enchant option for specific weapons ya

[hoary merlin]

wait peoples doing calamitas before exo-mech??

[cobalt wharf]

what.

[hoary merlin]

well anyway thanks

I am doing a summoner death run rn

glad to know about this

[fierce hearth]

I almost always do Scal first

Exos is just bullshit, it's not fun to me, and I hate trying to parse the mess of the fight

Scal was always balanced around being comfortably beatable with Yharon gear, anyway

[hoary merlin]

it opposite from me then

I always do exo-mech first before calamitas

not just that

I always make sure to beat them three time too to get like killed Ares last, Thanatos last, and Artermis and Apolo last

[tired adder]

didn't scal weapons suck for long time?

[hoary merlin]

I mean both calamitas and exo-mech are two option for the final boss anyway

[fierce hearth]

Scal weapons are only good if you haven't beaten Exos, and even then it's pretty hit or miss iirc

[tired adder]

like that could be motivation for scal last because she gives nothing useful

[fierce hearth]

Like I don't think ranged or rogue get really anything out of Scal

Melee gets Violence which is a really solid option for Exos

[hoary merlin]

not just ranger and rogue

[meager escarp]

how do i get the mycoroot

[fierce hearth]

beat Crabulon

[hoary merlin]

literally every class

[meager escarp]

this thing is NOT dropping

is the clawmerang good?

is it better than the fishbone

[fierce hearth]

I literally just named a good drop from Scal

[hoary merlin]

you doing rogue infernum run?

[meager escarp]

yes

[fierce hearth]

Violence is good...

[hoary merlin]

nah I'm saying the weapon from exo-mech is better

[fierce hearth]

OK that

is true

[hoary merlin]

don't worry I'm your guy

I have mastered the rogue class

[hoary merlin]

no

[meager escarp]

trying to get the mycoroot rn

[hoary merlin]

I suggest go buy some rogue weapon from the sea king instead

[hoary merlin]

forget it

it not good at all

[meager escarp]

what do i go for then

[hoary merlin]

get the rogue weapon from the sea king instead

[meager escarp]

this is like my first time playing rogue

which one

[hoary merlin]

the npc

after defeated clam

[meager escarp]

i was planning on slap clam

*snap clam

but i need a new weapon

[hoary merlin]

Fishbone Boomerang is good enough

go killing the clam

then buy the weapon from the npc (sea king)

[meager escarp]

oh ok

[hoary merlin]

all you need just use the right accessories like I told you early

[hoary merlin]

Victide armor set is the best for the clam

because you fight it in under water

and don't forget to use the sea spirit amulet

[azure oak]

got to post-yharon and my motivation to continue immediately died

was never that big of a fan of scal anyways and exo mechs are exo mechs

DoG was definitely the peak of the playhrough

[severe coral]

Does the Scions Curio make all ranged attacks actually inflict Irradiated?

[misty wren]

pretty sure

[severe coral]

I'm not seein nothin

[misty wren]

oh right it doesnt

[severe coral]

:(

[misty wren]

it makes ranged hits increase irradiated effectiveness

and on kill enemies explode and spread irradiated

[late eagle]

Calamity mod

[zealous cradle]

Calamity mod

[tropic jolt]

calmity mod

[deft lily]

mod of calamity

[azure oak]

clamtea mod

[rare tinsel]

Clamity mod

[frail owl]

calmity mod

[thorny glacier]

orespawn mod

[solemn crest]

Clmty md

[amber furnace]

what kind of peak armor set is that

[severe coral]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3122635949

[sour thicket]

yo thats the gal from silksong

whos fight is very fun

carmelita

or sum idk i played silksong on release and thats it

[severe coral]

ye

Replaces Fossil Armour

[tired adder]

also known as MonStahLer

[late eagle]

The new weapons are really cool and all but my PC is screaming while I fight the profaned guardians😭

This never happened before man :(

[signal imp]

peak mentioned

[plush carbon]

i wouldn't be so sure

[cerulean rivet]

Creator aside, orespawn was peak for its time, compared to mods and quality now it is terrible

[arctic cliff]

Hot take: post moon lord should instead be called godmode to line up with hardmode

[solemn crest]

Hotter take: hardmode is an awful name for that stage of the game

Like it’s not a difficulty selector, it’s a stage of progression

[arctic cliff]

that’s actually part of my point

if vanilla does something stupid like that

why not do the same for post moon lord

[vivid hemlock]

the solution clearly would be to go back into time

[vocal kelp]

This is literally q fandom wiki bit

You're suggesting a fandom wiki bit rn

[tropic jolt]

godseeker mode 🔥

[tropic jolt]

they whitewashed moon lord 💔

[arctic cliff]

absolute cinema

[main flower]

absolute kicking off a long line of tragedies that will ruin a world all because you wanted to snack on some dragon nuggies

[granite sapphire]

This, or possibly the pantheon

Pre-Hardmode: Tale of a Cruel World

Hardmode: idk

Post-Moon Lord: The Pantheon

[hard hearth]

bro is straight CHILLIN

terrarian poses NO kinds of threat

[tropic jolt]

bro is just a chill guy

[distant raft]

no it should be hackermode and then godmode is postgame

[tropic jolt]

wheres noob mode

[arctic cliff]

prehm

[granite sapphire]

That’s when you can’t beat a boss

Noob mode is after 25 attempts on each boss

Unless it’s ftw

that’s boosted to 100

[solemn crest]

It should just be referred to as early game, mid game, and late game

[kindred fox]

Its called mid game for a reason

[tropic jolt]

noobmode promode godmode hackermode

[craggy wagon]

i feel like theres probably a good name for each stretch of the game that fits narratively but idk i cant think of it

[tropic jolt]

demon spider mode

[solemn crest]

I’m honestly not sure if having a name for the game stages is like… necessary

Like, dark souls doesn’t have a name for the stage after O&S

Why does terraria have to have a name for what happens after WoF?

-# DS1 might not be the best comparison but you get my point

[azure oak]

a lot changes between pre-hardmode and hardmode

more than any other boss, by far

[fathom girder]

It exists just for clarity

Base terraria has three stages tho

prehm, hm and post plantera

you can tell cuz those stages change baseline enemy health after each boss is defeated

I don't recall if post mechs is a proper stage in vanilla

[solemn crest]

The thing is that calling it hardmode and pre hardmode is just kinda dumb imo

[fathom girder]

why exactly

[earnest jewel]

Because when Terraria released Skeletron was the final boss.

They named the phase of the game after beating the new boss 'Hardmode' because the world gets harder.

[lean relic]

Space gun was best weapon in that time

God i feel old

[earnest jewel]

You're old.

[lapis oak]

does Brain even inflict shitton of debuffs anymore

on Rev+

[fathom girder]

I don't think so

[strange cargo]

I lowkey feel like hm could use a new name

[fathom girder]

AU CONTRAIRE I think post ML needs a new name

cuz it conflicts with how hardmode is named hardmode

[dull heart]

i think

[main estuary]

only if you hit a mirage brain i think

[tropic jolt]

like some sort of expert mode

[fathom girder]

therefore you are...

[lapis oak]

so this entire section can just be removed

[dull heart]

we should rename

[lapis oak]

except the first 2 sentences

[dull heart]

post plantera

[earnest jewel]

Hardermode, obviously.

[main estuary]

godseeker mode finna be the worst name possible

[tropic jolt]

the part of the game where the power creeps

[fathom girder]

Soulsmode...

because that's when the souls in the dungeon get loud...

[lapis oak]

doze can you fact check

my question

[dull heart]

what question

[fathom girder]

if boc applies debuffs in rev+

because we don't actually play calamity so we can't test it

[dull heart]

i don't think it does but idk

you say that like i play calamity

[lapis oak]

Imma send this to the wiki channel then

[fathom girder]

my assumption is that it applies the debuffs in expert/master but doesn't in rev/death

because rev/death boc is an entirely different entity that kills and replaces vanilla BoC

[lapis oak]

nvm I just need to look at the history section

it's that easy

[fathom girder]

oh

phenomenal

you're the first calamity player to read or something

[main falcon]

What about faithless mode

[fathom girder]

ew

[main falcon]

Ok

[tropic jolt]

I thought we all agreed on demon spider mode

[main falcon]

Suprememode

[lean relic]

Satanist mode

[fathom girder]

Satanist mode would be peak

I wonder if there's a mod that adds that

[main falcon]

Arisen mode

[lean relic]

[granite sapphire]

what is you guys talking about

[lapis oak]

Fishron doesn't inflict Feral Bite in Cal?

[fathom girder]

don't think so

[granite sapphire]

prolly not

[fathom girder]

we were talkin' about potential names for the stages of the game

to fall in line with post wof being named Hardmode

and pre wof being prehm

Post plant and post ML renaming basically

[lapis oak]

yes it does

[fathom girder]

oh that's WEIRD

[granite sapphire]

well ima do something

anything I guess

that I can do while lying down since I feel nauseous

[wary crest]

Harder mode and hardest mode

[fathom girder]

Harder mode and harderer mode i agree

[main falcon]

Post hardmode

[hard copper]

calamity mode

[fathom girder]

post hardmode...

I mean that follows the trend

But BUT we have two tiers to worry about not just one

[grave geyser]

Just call it all hardmode

[wise gale]

quick question, i know in #changelogs there was a change abt letting boss weapon drops be shimmered into the drops for other classes
why did that end up not getting added?

[mystic eagle]

To play the game

[grave geyser]

Devs stance on qol changed

[dusk bronze]

because it made refights pointless

[mystic eagle]

Shimmer doesn't need to become the jack of all trades

[wise gale]

i don't think it's really that much qol though
base game already lets you shimmer class emblems for that reason

[solemn crest]

Refights are somewhat core to terraria’s loot though

[grave geyser]

Ok but like let’s be real here there is not a huge problem with this

[dusk bronze]

i'm not saying i agree with the decision

i'm also not saying i disagree

[solemn crest]

I don’t think it’s a bad design, but then again I’m also a former Destiny player, and am very accustomed to farming the same boss for a different weapon

[wise gale]

it just felt like not that big of a thing to remove, im absolutely fine with the mod straying away from QoL
but if it fits with how base terraria has already designed stuff, ig i don't see it as a big deal to include

but ofc it's not my mod so all good

[solemn crest]

Saying base terraria does that while citing WoF is quite a bit of cherry-picking I must say

Afaik that’s literally the only boss that allows any item to be shimmered into different drops

[grave geyser]

Willing to bet the only reason emblems can be shimmered is because it’s not unrealistic for you to need more than 1

[wise gale]

just in general though, not just boss drops
desert temple loot, magma stone/lava charm, etc
i get there's only 1 boss example, that's fair but as a general concept shimmer reduces grind by cycling through different items

[wise gale]

eh that's fair

[solemn crest]

I think for regular loot it’s fine, since they’re not all guaranteed to spawn in a world

But for bosses it’s a bit different since you can just fight them again

[lyric trellis]

Feel like just letting you guarantee your class’ weapon takes away variety and can let you ignore getting other weapons post-the boss (also balance concerns potentially but that’s not something that matters probably for most cases)

[solemn crest]

Especially with loot post-x-boss, the refights are very easy

[wise gale]

again, not my mod, i don't wanna go complaining and start smth
just wanted to get why it happened ig

[wise gale]

ok yeah i can see that

[solemn crest]

Yeah you good dog, it’s just to… not encourage refights, but to give them a purpose besides “this boss was fun”

(At least from my viewpoint, idk I’m not a dev)

[grave geyser]

I have definitely had runs where I just roll with whatever the boss gives me and that definitely wouldn’t happen if you could just shimmer them

[solemn crest]

Class changing run where you have to use the items you get from the last boss

[main falcon]

Post hardmode and neohardmode

[fathom girder]

Hardmode EX Director's cut

[solemn crest]

Hardermode

[main falcon]

Hardmode DX

Hardmode soul

[solemn crest]

Idk what Dx means in this context so I read this as “the derivative of hardmode with respect to x”

[hollow harness]

mathrotted

[solemn crest]

[main falcon]

DELUXE, as what the boss rematchs in kirby games post game are normally called

[solemn crest]

I understand now, however I prefer derivative bc it’s funnier

[hollow harness]

mathematicians in the whatever century having a non defined derivative/integration notation and leibniz came and mogged them so hard

[main falcon]

This took me back for a second

[mystic eagle]

No they're usually called EX with the 3ds games being the exceptions, being DX for Triple Deluxe and 2.0 for Planet Robobot

[main falcon]

Reminds me when someone suggested crabulon getting a post plantera rematch due to piñonite

[mystic eagle]

And the Forgotten Land's 'Phantom' bosses

[solemn crest]

The current integral symbol >>> ohm

[main falcon]

Supreme crabulon

[hollow harness]

TRUE

[solemn crest]

In terms of concept

However

Ohm does win out in terms of electricity

[main falcon]

Crabulon EX

[solemn crest]

I’d hate to write resistance using an integration symbol

[main falcon]

Crabulon soul

[solemn crest]

Crab souls

[main falcon]

Souls of mite

[vivid thicket]

This fight took me such a good time, holly

I couldn't understand the finals hits for a long time

[wide raven]

Cnidrion is supposed to be getting a redesign

[deft lily]

yawns

[wide raven]

Most likely is gonna look similar the design that fables had and is gonna be mini bosses instead of a basic enemy

[blazing field]

Most likely is gonna look similar the design that fables had

Definitely not

[vivid hemlock]

yeah thats just

[blazing field]

Calamity is doing its own thing, Fables is doing its own thing

[vivid hemlock]

not happening

[fathom girder]

fables and basecal are NOT the same thing

[blazing field]

They aren't just gonna copy one another

[deft lily]

^

[fathom girder]

not to mention their design choices vary wildly at this point pretty sure

[wide raven]

This was already scraped

But it would be cool

[blazing field]

Yeah, and used on fables

[tropic jolt]

the horse

[blazing field]

That is Fables Cnidrion not Calamity Cnidrion

(Or well, in fables is isn't even called Cnidrion, but ykwim)

[fathom girder]

make it pink and suddenly it's a fabful hor se

[deft lily]

user is making it out to be a competition it seems

news flash: thats bad

[wide raven]

It was supposed to be used in calmility before the guy left

[tropic jolt]

shurt up!!!!!!!

[dusk bronze]

we know

[blazing field]

Yeah, and it is not being used anymore

The current dev team has no reason to restrain themselves with what another entirely unrelated dev team was doing before

[deft lily]

^^^^

[blazing field]

Specially when you consider that is part of the reason SSO was such a hellish mess

Also it's not the guy it's

22 guys

which went on to make calamity fables

[dusk bronze]

the ghosts of developers past

[blazing field]

if you wanna see that sprite in action play fables (play fables) (its good)

[deft lily]

that or ditched tmod all together sadly

[dusk bronze]

[tired adder]

late on refights thing

[deft lily]

I swear like 5 or 6 devs that were apart of 22 came back after fab got killed

[wide raven]

I just can't wait to see how fables lore is gonna be once it become fully developed

[vocal kelp]

As an unbiased third party i can confirm fables is good

[tired adder]

but I said several times in different places, that treasure bags should have same "pity" system as angler does

[hollow harness]

Fables is pretty good indeed

[vocal kelp]

Blizzard hat

[deft lily]

idrc abt fables personally, maybe in an alternate timeline where fab stayed on the base cal team I would be more interested in it

but this isnt that timeline

[hollow harness]

Gem Chimes ❤️

[tired adder]

so you still need to refight things, but you aren't stuck forever hunting for material you want

[vocal kelp]

Gatekeeping urself from peak is #crazy

[tropic jolt]

hm I dont think spooky mod was mentioned anywhere...

[deft lily]

^

[vocal kelp]

Lmfao

[deft lily]

some sort of...spooky mod

[tired adder]

I feel like liking normal cal and fables shouldn't be mutually exclusive

[pulsar cobalt]

something something two cakes

[deft lily]

I mean
im not obligated to like fables or care abt it in any capacity

[cunning sequoia]

they're virtually different mods with different plans and different development cycles

[tired adder]

that's better answer

[fathom girder]

I will be holding umbara at gunpoint to be a fables fanboy

[low elm]

thats a bit extreme

[wide raven]

Im not a fan boy but its a really good mod all things considered

[deft lily]

I bet the bullet would bounce right off

[wide raven]

I still wonder what the next update will add

[deft lily]

content

[dusk bronze]

something horrible

[wide raven]

I hope not

[tropic jolt]

the

[thorny glacier]

hog

[deft lily]

the

[dusk bronze]

hog

[deft lily]

what the fuck is the hog

[wide raven]

I heard after brainstorm they are gonna go back to focus content mods

[fathom girder]

what, do you have all warding reforges

damn defense stackers

[dusk bronze]

🐗

[deft lily]

[vivid hemlock]

God is coming.

[deft lily]

god isnt real

I am woke

[dusk bronze]

the end is nigh

armageddon befalls us

hogs shall reign supreme over earth

[lean relic]

How hungry...... 🐗

[tired adder]

but fog is

so it maybe true to say that "fog is coming"

[dusk bronze]

wrong

hog is coming

[blazing field]

hog is coming

动态网自由门 天安門 天安门 法輪功 李洪志 Calamity Mod 六四天安門事件 The Horrible Hog 天安門大屠殺 The Concoction 反右派鬥爭 Bad Piggy 大躍進政策 God is Coming 文化大革命 Hog Update

[deft lily]

😨

[wide raven]

Frog is coming

[tired adder]

what is this

[deft lily]

I hate mars

like genuinely

[lean relic]

Made me laugh in Bad piggy part

[wide raven]

I mean his face does look like a frog tho

[deft lily]

true
another reason for me to dislike it

[tired adder]

is red thing his mouth or his eye?

[deft lily]

[wide raven]

Honestly idk

His design is so werid

[obtuse hawk]

what's your biggest reason

[deft lily]

the fight kind of just
feels like filler

[blazing field]

Soon.

[deft lily]

like they could've just made the seed u need for AoE drop from exos

[wide raven]

Honestly agree. I wish his fight was just like a normal fight and not a game of pong

[deft lily]

and im pretty sure the mars fight is going away once wotg becomes independent of calamity anyway so its just kinda like

what was the point of it

[wide raven]

To look cool i guess

[deft lily]

unless mars stays and is completely reworked to be something different

[fathom girder]

mars exists as a plot point

[wide raven]

I mean they could keep Draedon in the new lore maybe

[obtuse hawk]

pointing towards mouth

[wide raven]

Or something similar

[deft lily]

no
wotg is aiming to be entirely separate from cal

[obtuse hawk]

the highlights are similar to teeth

[lean relic]

Im sure they are fine with Mars being lost media since theres whole scrapped Nameless yapping about noxus

[wide raven]

Oh gotcha

[deft lily]

which is a good thing

[obtuse hawk]

avatar of emptiness one of my fav bosses

[deft lily]

fair enough

[deft lily]

truth super nova

[obtuse hawk]

especially by design

[tired adder]

tutorial for solyn's magic?

[deft lily]

I suppose?

[tired adder]

what's the condition for this?

or is it really just unused content?

[lean relic]

Cut content, it happened if you Emptiness Sprayed the noxus right after he spawns

[low elm]

definitely unused considering it mentions noxus

[tired adder]

good

kinda feels too... self-aware and unwarranted, I suppose?

[wide raven]

I mean nameless deity can jut bring you back to the title screen

[deft lily]

this isnt very update talk

sso never

[wide raven]

Yeah kinda a tangent

[tired adder]

like it's not a job for guy, who forces us to refight the imitations of every monster we fought for slim of his attention, to talk about how immoral we are about killing bosses in unintended way

[tired adder]

sure

[amber egret]

ive never seen this

also i am curious: what filter do they use

i wanna try and replicate it lol

[tired adder]

when the horrible fog update is coming?

[solemn crest]

I hope they call every update brainstorm

[azure oak]

next update will be hogstorm

trust

[dull heart]

Hi

[misty wren]

next update is acid rain overhaul they're calling it rainstorm trust me i know mr calamity himself

[tired adder]

fogbound is an NPC
he can collide with horrible hog to create hogbound

[misty wren]

frogbound

[lean relic]

Next update will be dozestorm
hi doze

[dull heart]

Hi

Next update will be roots

delete calamity embrace roots

[solemn crest]

Mmmmmmm, roots

Tree

My roots character is named rootsted

[grave rock]

I no longer believe in Calamity update

[solemn crest]

Doze just said it, its roots

[fathom girder]

yay

[craggy wagon]

ik Mars is meant to be like, a frog or something but i can never unsee Emil

[tired adder]

what about an update that adds horrible hog secret seed

[solemn crest]

It makes all piggy angry

[tired adder]

and gives them crowns

[grave rock]

Can the next update b Aquatic Scourgestorm

[blazing field]

As if you need a seed for that.

[solemn crest]

Next update crabstorm

Crabulon rework

Crab rain

Ranger nerfs

[tired adder]

yes

it's too horrible for normal worlds

[blazing field]

The masses are unelinghtened. They do not know. They do not bear witness to the truth.

God is coming.

[tired adder]

you need to access a rare realm to see horrible hog in his unglory

[solemn crest]

Is hog loot just gross bacon?

[dusk bronze]

immortal hog

[dusk bronze]

that sounds like quite the disgusting meat

[blazing field]

The disgusting meat..

It was a sign.

[solemn crest]

Horrible hog has gross bacon growing on him, you need to mine it with a pickaxe

[blazing field]

A sign for those unitiated.

[lean relic]

Holy bacon

[azure oak]

i think it's like this

[lean relic]

Jaw armor

okay this makes more sense since ares has red face

[dapper ridge]

moth

[hard copper]

i think this is his face

[dapper ridge]

idk about that

[azure oak]

yes i am expert on the art and i do say true yes

[lean relic]

Nose

Pig nose

[azure oak]

fun fact due to the angle you are never able to apprefciate the true magnificance of its head
Source: dude trust me

[solemn crest]

The crimson chin???

[thorny glacier]

never skipped mewing days since his creation

good for him

[hard copper]

bnuuy getting revenge for all the bunnies youve killed

[amber egret]

obdecdive: prodectk the seeedlingh

[late eagle]

What the hell.

[azure oak]

sorry that you don't understand draedon's genius

[late eagle]

Omg... This cursed thing made me remember something old

Hold up

😭

[wide raven]

What is even that

[amber furnace]

YOOOO

I REMEMBER THIS CARTOON

whats the name of it again I loved it sm 😭

[earnest jewel]

Komodo.

[earnest jewel]

Animal Mechanicals.

[amber furnace]

ty

[mild atlas]

OH THIS HOLY FUCK

MEMORIES UNLOCKED

[dull heart]

what a balanced item

[thorny fjord]

Doze please leave some balance for the rest of us

[dull heart]

worm vs grenade who would win

[thorny fjord]

shouldn't have given him lemons

[amber egret]

worm v. pierce item

who wins

[lyric trellis]

BGB needs a buff after this showing smh

Not even 2% contrib

[arctic cliff]

coughing baby vs tsar bomba

[dull heart]

tsar bomba vs 2 septillion babies coughing all at once

[sand dome]

cave johnson combustable lemon

[fathom girder]

shoved a bomb down the worm's mouth like it was dune

[dull heart]

I tried it and it literally did 25% HP per stealth strike

This was with a base dmg of 10 on the weapon too 😭

[strange cargo]

Animal mechanicals my beloved

[blazing field]

hi calamity update talk

how are you all doing

[tropic jolt]

first 31 days of each month are always the hardest 😔

[strange cargo]

Maybe if this weapon is so broken after a nerf already, it’s stealth strike needs to be fundamentally changed?

[strange cargo]

And every day that ends in y

[fathom girder]

nah

woe, 20% damage to worm bosses upon ye

[dull heart]

no it just needed to like

have some stats shuffled

the base dmg reflected the lemon's raw dmg when it hit the enemy, not the explosion dmg (which was 5x that)

[strange cargo]

Ah

[dull heart]

after making the base dmg reflect the explosion dmg instead it is balancable

[lapis oak]

wtf

doze's rework be like

how

[dull heart]

wulfrum knife needs a 1 dmg nerf

[strange cargo]

Average rogue weapon (summoner will be nerfed for this)

[lyric trellis]

I wish

[naive sluice]

summoner will have one essential prog whip removed

[naive sluice]

you will do all of post ml and HM with just vinewhip

[lyric trellis]

@still bluff is this true

[dull heart]

yes

vinewhip is a new whip made out of 78 Vine Rope and one of each of the shrine items

[thorny fjord]

Ooh, I like vine rope in recipe

People can finally stop tossing guide to cordage

[fathom girder]

nah I'm still throwing it away

I'll just cheatsheet it in

[dull heart]

78 Vine Rope and 3127 Vine

item also instantly decays into one poop block if obtained through any method besides crafting

[thorny fjord]

New crafting recipe, 100 vine rope for 1 vine

[naive sluice]

Give a upgrade to guide to cordage that instakills all bosses and uses 30000 vine rope and 1 Pumpkin

[dull heart]

guide to muscle fiber cordage

[thorny fjord]

Should use cactus not pumpkin as it's offensive

[naive sluice]

but like pumpkins are really scary when you carve a face into them

and like

instakilling is SCARY

[fathom girder]

Thank god for the fact that you can shimmer pumpkin into cactus

[dull heart]

solution: 1 pumpkin and 1 cactus

[naive sluice]

Genius!

[thorny fjord]

Insta killing is BORING

[dull heart]

fun fact

lemon 'nade is terrible for pvp

it does like 25% dmg to players