thats genuinely so convenient
#calamity-update-talk
thorn pier
steel pike
I yell at myself and my environment but I don’t lash out at others really
dull heart
my "not just that" was literally responding to progression skips
echo pier
Yeah
I'm currently pre skeletron in malice mode (i've beaten slime god who's easier than skeletron in malice) and i feel like i will soon regret doing this playthrough
I think wall of flesh is gonna break me enough to quit the playthrough
steel pike
Wof is one of the most aggravating bosses to deal with in any playthrough in any mode
Fight me
echo pier
if not, then i think the cultist or golem will
high scaffold
I was looking through some things and found out that vanila 1.4.5 added recipe groups that were in calamity before that
All 3 tiers of early hm bars
And any stone
high scaffold
Anarchy blade is such a stinker rn
Can I have a big true melee sword - hmm
With use 1 - how original
And explosions on hit - daring today arent we
high scaffold
Use type 1
dull heart
so?
lyric trellis
The potential sword
high scaffold
The rule of cool
dull heart
use type 1 is fine when done right (anarchy blade doesn't do it right)
but like
terra blade does
tex does
high scaffold
Im not going to use a boring weapon when I have more fun options even if it is more effective
desert garnet
it isnt like copper sword borring
it have its gimmick
but if you have more fun using other weapons, then use other weapons
high scaffold
terra blade does
Terra blade is a projectile sword and it has some extra flash with its swing
dull heart
Im not going to use a boring weapon when I have more fun options even if it is m...
ok
anarchy blade is fun to build around though
example: moonshine regenerator builds
high scaffold
But it doesnt look quite as cool as other options
grave geyser
use type 1 is fine when done right (anarchy blade doesn't do it right)
idk why people treat usestyle 1 like its the boogeyman that instantly kills a weapon
it looks a little funny but the same could be said for most of the alternate usestyles
high scaffold
Cooler looking weapons invoke more emotions then those that arent as flashy and emotions are one of the reasons people play games
misty wren
it feels the same as any other broadsword i feel like its less the highlight of a moonshine regenator build than the moonshine and regenator
thats the main issue i have with it
grave geyser
I mean prenerf fetid with melee speed builds probably invoked more emotions for me than most of the modern sword swings
misty wren
thats the main issue i have with it
it isnt contributing to the build in a fun way its just kinda there benefitting from the build
high scaffold
When I use a use type 1 with no extra stuff my brain automatically sets it as a "its probably pretty bad, Im not gonna use it ever"
misty wren
terra blade is kinda hard carried by the visuals it has if it didnt have those i would not enjoy using it at all
its not very mechanically interesting so if it isnt looking at least above average...
dull heart
anarchy blade does need a glowup for sure
high scaffold
Remember, before you use a weapon on a boss, before you use it on a dummy, you try to use it just to see how it looks
dull heart
no
steel pike
terra blade is kinda hard carried by the visuals it has if it didnt have those i...
Also the whole element of making it helps it
high scaffold
First impression matters
dull heart
don't use weapons on bosses in general
steel pike
Like it just feels like satisfying to make
dull heart
weapons are lame
steel pike
Much like nights edge
misty wren
Also the whole element of making it helps it
i dont feel anything when making it
specifically in calamity
high scaffold
specifically in calamity
Brain fried by huge crafting trees
dull heart
calamity problem
misty wren
because there are just so many other long crafting trees each individual tree doesnt feel particularly impactful
dull heart
okay ex-spoiler-chat: 1, 2, or 3
misty wren
2
high scaffold
because there are just so many other long crafting trees each individual tree do...
They have been trimming unnecessary corners tho
misty wren
that doesnt mean the amount of long crafting trees has been meaningfully reduced
high scaffold
Like devastation which was completely removed
dull heart
i miss devastation
high scaffold
I dont
vivid hemlock
mk ultra hd
misty wren
holy shit is that devils devastation
high scaffold
What a disappointing spoiler
dull heart
earn better ones then
blazing field
waiter waiter more comically large greatswords with a broad orange blade
high scaffold
Im not paying $50
misty wren
pay 720
dull heart
waiter waiter more comically large greatswords with a broad orange blade
more broadswords that are just The Crucible from doom
dull heart
Im not paying $50
i wasn't talking about patreon
misty wren
pay 720
if you do that doze will upload his entire computer to discord and we get to see all the calamity
dull heart
no i wont but i'll upload a picture of 48 feet of eow
misty wren
close enough
high scaffold
A bomb
misty wren
evil
coral shuttle
me when i press E by accident in basement II
high scaffold
Unlocking forgotten it seems
coral shuttle
TRUE
dull heart
ugh
blazing field
Reminds me of wind waker
coral shuttle
alternatively, POV: forgetting you picked up detonator
dull heart
Reminds me of wind waker
that's the inspiration yup
pulsar cobalt
Reminds me of wind waker
WHY DO YOU HAVE AN OMNI PFP
high scaffold
Vanila sand looks quite old btw
blazing field
WHY DO YOU HAVE AN OMNI PFP
happens
dull heart
anyway there's your spoiler for until you earn a new one
dull heart
this is all dust btw
pulsar cobalt
DS is just molgera
dune sandworm is just molgera too
dull heart
just a little bit of dust spam on this weapon im afraid
cunning sequoia
all sandworms go back to molgera
high scaffold
anyway there's your spoiler for until you earn a new one
"until you earn a new one" work 24 hours in a coal mine for a flimsy burger from mac
blazing field
DS is just molgera
is that for DS
dull heart
DS is just molgera
sorry this is a weapon
cunning sequoia
ok but can you add it for DS
pulsar cobalt
that was a joke sandworms from dune cant be molgera because theyre literally older than zelda iirc
dull heart
maybe
cunning sequoia
that was a joke sandworms from dune cant be molgera because theyre literally old...
i mean yeah i was joking
dull heart
that was a joke sandworms from dune cant be molgera because theyre literally old...
what if molgera are sandworm though
cunning sequoia
dune came out like 50 years before wind waker
dull heart
then sandworms are molgera
blazing field
molgera is liek
a fish
i
think
it looks more fishlike to me than worm
its kind of a ray looking thing
dull heart
considering the fish zora became bird people rito when the world flooded
maybe the worm turned fish
still cobalt
Maybe the fish turned worm
cunning sequoia
wiki calls it a sand snake idk
still cobalt
Maybe the fish ate the worm…
vivid hemlock
what is lemon ade im not caught up...
pulsar cobalt
what is lemon ade im not caught up...
lemon grenade
or as one would say it
a lemon 'nade
lyric trellis
It’s a duststorm
lyric trellis
It’s a duststorm
Part 2 of brainstorm
lapis oak
someone brings up the tooltip
pulsar cobalt
is this a new item for the next update
yea and apparently its roping in 2 old dust spam items into it as upgrades to it
lapis oak
it's a Rogue Bomb
vivid hemlock
yea and apparently its roping in 2 old dust spam items into it as upgrades to it
icic
dull heart
I didn't say both were dust monsters
lapis oak
duststorm was definitely not weak so, I don't think it's that
dull heart
oh btw is this duststorm
yes
cunning sequoia
it is the dustiest dust weapon to ever dust
lapis oak
yes you did
lapis oak
in my head
pulsar cobalt
so is sealed singularity gonna be part of the line or is it being seperated from duststorm
lapis oak
so the line is being separated from Supernova
dull heart
why would it have to be
vivid hemlock
so we know lemon 'nade and duststorm
dull heart
It's not like supernova is at all like sealed singularity or duststorm anyway
granite sapphire
It's not like supernova is at all like sealed singularity or duststorm anyway
I should redo a supernova components playthrough soon
lapis oak
? so isn't it better to just separate them
lapis oak
it already has 3 weapon components
granite sapphire
Supernova needs components
what’re you all talking about, because
granite sapphire
it already has 3 weapon components
Exo blade?
That thing used to have 4 iirc
Heavenly Gale also has a ton
lapis oak
and the charge mechanic doesn't do anything with Supernova at all
granite sapphire
and the charge mechanic doesn't do anything with Supernova at all
Supernova does exactly what it’s called so
dull heart
Almost everything miracle matter has 4
granite sapphire
and the components
pulsar cobalt
Almost everything miracle matter has 4
half of them have 3 iirc
dull heart
and I want to encourage using lemon nade
granite sapphire
well they are compromised of most real life supernovas
The singularity or star
The dusts
the bombs
and the heat
pulsar cobalt
wat about photoviscerator
granite sapphire
Just magnomaly, subsuming
now if anything needs a rework it’s these two
they’re very plain
dull heart
SSV fine
granite sapphire
Magnomaly for the amazing name is so lame
dull heart
Magnomaly will become exo saw
granite sapphire
wat about photoviscerator
it’s cool, but not what it could be
it does fit the idea of a peak flamethrower
lapis oak
and I want to encourage using lemon nade
just make it perform good
lapis oak
turbo broken OP Star Beam Rye tier
dull heart
anyway literally no exo weapon matches all of its components
granite sapphire
but the fire ball can definitely be changed
dull heart
upgrade to Superradiant Slaughterer
granite sapphire
neat
that’ll make saws only a lot easier on scal since photon ripper isn’t exactly the most high damage on single target
dull heart
Photon Ripper is really good on scal
It's on par with exoblade
like identical times
granite sapphire
Photon Ripper is really good on scal
maybe it was because I was on infernum doing the challenge
dull heart
probably
granite sapphire
I’ll do the challenge on rev
nocturne crater
WHY DO YOU HAVE AN OMNI PFP
the mold spreads 
pulsar cobalt
thats a yes then
halcyon seal
Wait what the fuck we’re actually adding lemon nade
pulsar cobalt
yea
lyric trellis
Rogue love
dull heart
No
still cobalt
now if anything needs a rework it’s these two
Cosmic immaterializer first PLEASE
lapis oak
where that from
dull heart
Deerclops rock
distant raft
different projectiles depending on the ground
granite sapphire
Cosmic immaterializer first PLEASE
I did that
that was a fun components only playthrough
but yes I ageee
agree
necrosteocytes on destroyer sobbing emoni
dull heart
Sealed singularity is such a sad weapon rn
granite sapphire
Sealed singularity is such a sad weapon rn
what does he even do?
still cobalt
Theres a lot of sad rogue weapons
distant raft
there's also ice chunks instead of snow chunks
lapis oak
Sealed singularity is such a sad weapon rn
sad as in
lyric trellis
Worst black hole ever
granite sapphire
Theres a lot of sad rogue weapons
Some of them either do exactly what they say or are the biggest letdown in history
lyric trellis
Worst black hole ever
Second to Void Conc actually
lapis oak
presentation
granite sapphire
aw crap did ss get reworked and I didn’t see it in the mega page for the weapons
prolly cuz dang
dull heart
what is ss
lapis oak
Sunken Sea
dull heart
hasn't been reworked yet
lapis oak
Sulphurous Sea
dull heart
I've pretty much finished the rework
dusk bronze
Sunken Sea
kiri
the chart kiri
lapis oak
kiri
the chart kiri
it's ONE (1) (SINGULAR) weapon
dull heart
Superradiant Slaughterer
dull heart
it's ONE (1) (SINGULAR) weapon
4
dull heart
Evil Smasher, Lemon nade, duststorm, sealed single
lapis oak
two?
granite sapphire
I still don’t know how superradiant is utilized, cause you obviously shoot the spinning saw first and then the projectile
dusk bronze
it's ONE (1) (SINGULAR) weapon
you still didn't update it post brainstorm 🤓
granite sapphire
but like
granite sapphire
it’s confusion
dull heart
yes
still cobalt
it's ONE (1) (SINGULAR) weapon
Theres like 3 things tiered wrong actually
halcyon seal
Also, I know there’s generally never gonna be release dates for updates but I might as well ask, is there potential for another update in 2026, or is it gonna be until 2027
granite sapphire
fire bending technique from zuko or fire smoke bomb from aang
dull heart
it'll release before 3026
halcyon seal
I’ll let my great great great great great great great great great great great great great
dull heart
If tml finishes porting in 2026 then we'll have to update for that at minimum but otherwise idk
still cobalt
It depends on the scale and aim of the next update which we dont know
granite sapphire
I was going to say something but I realized I didn’t know how to explain it smh
vivid hemlock
doze what was that boulder thing from yesterday...
lapis oak
what boulder
pulsar cobalt
doze what was that boulder thing from yesterday...
he never said boulder i think
just glowing rocks
dull heart
A
pulsar cobalt
and yea it is im pretty sure
lapis oak
rock?
dull heart
Soccer Ball
late eagle
explode
Oh I loved it🥹
Is that duststorm stealth strike? It's so cool man
Finally supernova line is getting some love
dusk bronze
Is that duststorm stealth strike? It's so cool man
lemon 'nade
still cobalt
Piss
dull heart
Duststorm stealth
late eagle
why Duststorm having Lemon Juice
Drinking ramune on the beach on a sunny day.
dull heart
(this doesn't really tell you anything about how it works)
fierce hearth
@lapis oak thanks for reccing WotM. I just absolutely slaughtered it with Tainted Orderbringer lmfao
late eagle
lemon 'nade
Im not seeing any lemon there though
fierce hearth
Now I can begin my ranged rogue run of brainstorm
dusk bronze
Im not seeing any lemon there though
da juice
dull heart
Im not seeing any lemon there though
it's already exploded so there's not a lot left of it
lapis oak
no lemon juice
lapis oak
Im not seeing any lemon there though
the juice
dull heart
spam
fierce hearth
Can we talk about Tainted Orderbringer, even postnerf. It's kind of obscene.
late eagle
Fun fact my ice cream is lemon flavored
I feel very represented right now thank you doze
dull heart
lemon nade stealth feels so satisfying
grave rock
can yall give stealth strikes a loud ass sound effect
dull heart
equip raiders talisman
late eagle
lemon nade stealth feels so satisfying
Oh man I want to use it already
still cobalt
It sucks on DoG or smth
dull heart
I also made it not broken on dog while being good on OD
and do better on polter than Weaver
lapis oak
Can we talk about Tainted Orderbringer, even postnerf. It's kind of obscene.
I mean post nerf the normal version is still SS tier
late eagle
I also made it not broken on dog while being good on OD
and do better on polter...
What.
How
dull heart
:)
late eagle
That doesn't even make sense
dull heart
I enjoy sealed singularity it feels like I'm throwing a soccer ball at my enemies it's so funny
late eagle
When I crafted sealed singularity for the first time I really thought it would be a cool weapon
But it turned out that it was a super lame weapon
fierce hearth
I mean post nerf the normal version is still SS tier
Tainted Orderbringer was doing so much damage that mecha mayhem consistently lasted only seconds. It was just stupid.
dull heart
yeah it's so sad
Fun Fact
Most of sealed singularity damage comes not from the ball or black hole themselves
But the 3 shards it spawns on impact
late eagle
From the rocks!
dull heart
no I mean current one
late eagle
Eh really?
dull heart
I had to nerf them very hard
late eagle
Weird
dull heart
now they do flat 25 dmg
still cobalt
Bc they suvked
dull heart
no
late eagle
:(
dull heart
doze reworking every CV items ever
might as well rework CV while I'm at it
dull heart
by "rework CV" I mean make dark energies all share HP
lyric trellis
Menacing
pulsar cobalt
might as well rework CV while I'm at it
you should make cv appear in the archives only
dull heart
I actually had
lapis oak
chain CV up
lapis oak
Cal Clone CV no way
pulsar cobalt
you should make cv appear in the archives only
also get rid of those weird ass lightning balls that shoot weird bolt things at you
dull heart
more like avatar of emptiness
pulsar cobalt
like what the fuck are they why does cv have those
dull heart
where like you literally are not interacting with the world
pulsar cobalt
why do their projectiles move like that
dull heart
where like you literally are not interacting with the world
except for the arena CV builds
lapis oak
also get rid of those weird ass lightning balls that shoot weird bolt things at ...
glorpshit attack
they literally so useless like they fire for 2 rounds then fuck off and you will have free time to charge up Adrenaline for later Ball Phases
vivid hemlock
cv non shield phase is so chud
distant raft
they literally so useless like they fire for 2 rounds then fuck off and you will...
solution: make them not despawn until next phase
late eagle
except for the arena CV builds
Hey Doze, is lemon nade part of the duststorm line? Or is it only in the supernova line?
Because their effects are very similar.
dull heart
lemon nade -> duststorm -> sealed singularity
lapis oak
squirt lemon juice on Eye of Cthulhu
that's funny
super evil weapon
Eye should take 300% damage from it I think
fathom girder
But the 3 shards it spawns on impact
wtf
dull heart
each of the shards does like 25% of the projectile dmg
or something
So together they do a lot of dmg
dull heart
ysa
fathom girder
hell yeah
fathom girder
pester carny about it
they mentioned they were starting to sprite or sumn
dunno if they're doing weapons tho
dull heart
dia is already looking at it I think
dull heart
It's a very diacore item
dusty tinsel
squirt lemon juice on Eye of Cthulhu
Reminds me of legends of Maxx where Maxx used shampoo to fight the eoc
dull heart
fun fact! I made the toon clouds
fathom girder
you showed those earlier ya
dull heart
the only asset I made that actually looks good
dull heart
you showed those earlier ya
did you see the further ones I showed
dusty tinsel
Why is the EoW plush $720
polar tide
pester carny about it
im too busy doing 𝓽𝓱𝓲𝓷𝓰𝓼 rn anyway
fathom girder
uhhhh no I didn't see them
fathom girder
im too busy doing 𝓽𝓱𝓲𝓷𝓰𝓼 rn anyway
what if tho
even though dia's already doing it
what if
polar tide
naur
fathom girder
like a legendary version of lemon 'nade
dull heart
C
fathom girder
KABOOM
dull heart
lemon 'nade stealth feels just so good to use
dull heart
pre boss
fathom girder
betcha I can use lemon 'nade for hive mind or perfs too
granite sapphire
Figured it would make sense
fathom girder
cuz early AoE weapons utterly annihilate those two for preboss strats
granite sapphire
Lemon and Lemon ‘nade from tree shaking
polar tide
@pseudo vector
dull heart
the fact lemon 'nade can explode in your hand is just so funny to me
so can the two upgrades
rotund venture
is that coming in the next hotfix are waiting for next update?
pseudo vector
what
fathom girder
I think getting eaten by my own pocket black hole is legit
granite sapphire
the fact lemon 'nade can explode in your hand is just so funny to me
It would be cool if tree shaking any tree with a lemon and then drop a bomb so the tree explodes and the lemon allows it to drop a lemon ‘nade
dull heart
sealed singularity is cool I feel like I cooked on the sounds despite not making anything unique for it
granite sapphire
elaborate but quick
fathom girder
lol you responded
one of these days he's gonna kill you
dull heart
it very much feels like it deserves to be a CV weapon now
granite sapphire
of course it depends on you getting a lemon from tree shaking, but I think it’s cool
fathom girder
sealed singularity is cool I feel like I cooked on the sounds despite not making...
that's the power of proper sound design bayBEEEEE
you can just get away with existing assets if you're clever
polar tide
one of these days he's gonna kill you
smiles
steel pike
just realized carny hasn’t pinged cdmusic yet
dull heart
lemon nade stealth is also 90% satisfying from the sounds
steel pike
speak of the devil
polar tide
yes i did
dull heart
Duststorm sounds are whatever
dull heart
But I don't really have anything better for what duststorm is
granite sapphire
Duststorm sounds are whatever
What will seafoam bomb become after the sunken sea overhaul
dull heart
duststorm felt so jank to make
granite sapphire
or will it just get a rework
fathom girder
maybe you could use one of the sounds that desert scourge makes for duststorm in a bottle?
dull heart
Still not easy to use but good
fathom girder
cuz he's got some good sandy whoosh sounds
steel pike
also sorry about earlier
pseudo vector
lol you responded
i'm just chilling after playing monster hunter world with sunny lmao
steel pike
I was stuoid for that
steel pike
maybe you could use one of the sounds that desert scourge makes for duststorm in...
desert scourge my goat
granite sapphire
I do think seafoam should shoot foam for spam and the new stealth effect does bubbles and foam instead of just stronger bubbles
polar tide
i'm just chilling after playing monster hunter world with sunny lmao
yeah i pinged you for literally genuinely no reason sorry
dull heart
duststorm is definitely the weakest (in terms of design) of the three imo tho
polar tide
also sorry about earlier
abour wha
granite sapphire
like the bubbles explode into foam droplets, resembling the drakovi’s rod mage
polar tide
if i dont even remember what you did then i promise it dont matter
dull heart
Lemon 'nade has the strongest design and sealed is very solidly designed but loses the funny factor lemon nade has
But I managed to make sealed singularity an AOE weapon that does NOT obliterate worms too much more than single target
My tests on polter were actually better than on Storm Weaver
granite sapphire
Lemon 'nade has the strongest design and sealed is very solidly designed but los...
If lemon ‘nade is pre boss will the seafoam bomb be retiered since pre boss and post dscourge isn’t a big progression jump
dull heart
It's also very fun on Old Duke and DoG both but for very different reasons
dull heart
If lemon ‘nade is pre boss will the seafoam bomb be retiered since pre boss and ...
why would lemon nade being pre boss mean seafoam needs to be reteired
fathom girder
they're explosives that are vaguely close to each other
steel pike
if i dont even remember what you did then i promise it dont matter
Ty it was just the stupid thing I brought up that’s all
polar tide
Lemon 'nade has the strongest design and sealed is very solidly designed but los...
sealed citruslarity
granite sapphire
why would lemon nade being pre boss mean seafoam needs to be reteired
idk, component only runs make it awkward
steel pike
I get overworked about stuff I said cuz I am very very scared of annoying people
granite sapphire
like I get lemon ‘nade which then I’ll just need to craft the seafoam bomb after the first boss
dull heart
why would I design an item around component only runs
polar tide
I get overworked about stuff I said cuz I am very very scared of annoying people
i prommy that i do not care
dull heart
like I get lemon ‘nade which then I’ll just need to craft the seafoam bomb after...
they're fundamentally very different items
granite sapphire
why would I design an item around component only runs
I mean as in like, isn’t it awkward to think about, not only just component only but the weapon progression as a whole
granite sapphire
some of the weapon progression usually spread out
fathom girder
one is a bomb and the other is a grenade
dull heart
Lemon nade (slightly outdated) tooltip
pulsar cobalt
Lemon nade (slightly outdated) tooltip
does it scale with stealth gen in some way
polar tide
i want to kill dog wtih a lemon
dull heart
does it scale with stealth gen in some way
Yes
Stealth Gen makes the fuse shorter
And the time to fill stealth shorter
steel pike
my neighbor has lemons do they explode like they do in game
pulsar cobalt
you could maybe mention that perhaps
polar tide
dog vs lemon
dull heart
You can use stealth Gen and feel the difference
Lemon Nade is also the third item to allow stealth strikes without rogue armor
(sealed singularity is the fourth and duststorm the fifth)
all three of its line provide 10 max stealth if you have none
icy sphinx
was the brainstorm update called brainstorm becauase it was too much for the brain? or because the brain was too much for it🤔
polar tide
no
hard hearth
dog vs lemon
this is funny
dull heart
because it reworked brain and dog has a stormy background
icy sphinx
because it reworked brain and dog has a stormy background
makes sense
wait stormy??
it looks so much more like stars
dull heart
did you use Infernum
grave geyser
Lemon Nade is also the third item to allow stealth strikes without rogue armor
wait does doomsday device really not do this
icy sphinx
it looked similar to uhhh wotg garden
dull heart
wait does doomsday device really not do this
I don't think so? I could be wrong
But I added the "no armor stealth" system for Wulfrum Knife
and then gave it to Vega and now the 'nade
icy sphinx
also where can u read the lore
i wanna read it each time i wanna sleep
or ist jst spread around the wiki
grave geyser
theres a document in the pins of #lore-discussion
icy sphinx
theres a document in the pins of <#568192082473386020>
does it work well with mobile?
polar tide
kitten
arctic cliff
finally beat dog
what an awesome glowup
i finally dont have to turn on infernum to have an interesting dog fight
polar tide
dog fight? i think you can get arrested for that
lapis oak
wait does doomsday device really not do this
no it doesn't
steel pike
dog vs lemon
love this
lapis oak
you must have stealth armor equipped
lapis oak
Xyk should change that
fathom girder
all three of its line provide 10 max stealth if you have none
you're out here fixing rogue before the rework is even happening
fathom girder
a start's a start
if focus/stealth was determined by the weapon
like just as examples
if adamantite axe had 110 stealth and armors/accessories simply granted a stealth gen multiplier
late eagle
But I added the "no armor stealth" system for Wulfrum Knife
I think it would be nice to do something like this to throwing brick too. When you get it from the starter bag you don't have any armor to use it's stealth, and when you get a rogue armor you already have a better weapon
fathom girder
that would make balancing stealth strikes more interesting for sure
lapis oak
I think it would be nice to do something like this to throwing brick too. When y...
it will be done when stealth meter is moved to weapons instead of armor
grave geyser
in god knows how long
lapis oak
yep
fathom girder
I REALLY hope stealth being moved to weapons is a surefire thing that would be so awesome
late eagle
it will be done when stealth meter is moved to weapons instead of armor
Wait I didn't even know this would be a thing, is that focus you're talking about?
fathom girder
focus/stealth
It's just a rename basically
having stealth be determined by the weapon, and stealth generation be determined by the armor, that would make it feel almost like how melee weapons work with melee speed
and that's swag
late eagle
I don't miss yoyo's
late eagle
I don't like any of the vanilla's yoyo's, and I never saw any mod making a single interesting yoyo
Even in calamity
fathom girder
Yoyos are the reason I won my first vanilla expert run and I've loved em ever since
idk why
I just like them
grave geyser
Even in calamity
have you used the reworked burning revelation
late eagle
I didn't get to the reworked yoyo's tho, so maybe I will be impressed this time
fathom girder
the reworked yoyos rule
late eagle
have you used the reworked burning revelation
Not yet
late eagle
the reworked yoyos rule
Well I really hope so
fathom girder
and scal isn't the hardest
Shoutout btw to Calamity for being the best yoyo accessory in the game
tropic jolt
what a calamity
late eagle
Because it's not really a good feeling hating a subclass to the point that you want it to be gone
Yoyo's are one of it for me and I want it to be different
rigid girder
did they fix the multiplayer projectile issue?
fathom girder
calamity yoyos start to become relevant post perfs
dusk bronze
did they fix the multiplayer projectile issue?
which one
rigid girder
which one
last time i played with friends i had to swap to an old version because all projectiles werent working
im pretty sure it was some worm mob
im not sure didnt play much of the upd yet because of that
lyric trellis
have you used the reworked burning revelation
The only unique yoyo ❤️
fathom girder
Obliterator is right there
also I wonder if this run will be able to get sulphurous grabber pre wof
drowsy reef
Man I wish Summoner didn’t have absurdly overpowered offense because the DoG staff rework is so cool
And the fetch thing is adorable
granite sapphire
Obliterator is right there
I mean obliterator is just yin yo 2 (except it doesn’t suck)
granite sapphire
yeah isn’t it just small devourers
granite sapphire
and then ddrive
fathom girder
the yoyo will tp around the target and smash into them for higher damage
granite sapphire
the yoyo will tp around the target and smash into them for higher damage
so basically yin yo, except the obliterator is the shards
fathom girder
so basically god's gambit
granite sapphire
I’m not dissing the obliterator, I’m THE yoyo fan
fathom girder
burning revelation is rather swag
granite sapphire
burning revelation is rather swag
burning revelation does sound like the Ching in a cash register
Also it’s just awesome
Lacerator could’ve been better, but a buzz saw yo-yo is awesome
fathom girder
Oh right, lacerator is a thing that exists now
can't wait to use that on DoG
gonna spite candle his ass with lacerator
strange cargo
Two months no spoilers 
vivid hemlock
the ramblings of the deranged
fathom girder
enchanted dagger is pretty funny as a summon
the knife always has an active hitbox
so you can just cheese the shit out of dmode blood moon
lyric trellis
It’s one of the summons ever
strange cargo
Knife or dagger
strange cargo
Yeah, theres one from queen slime too, but I assume you mean the preboss one
dusty tinsel
Preboss summons are cool
dull heart
Lacerator could’ve been better, but a buzz saw yo-yo is awesome
Yeah but it's going to be killed probably
late eagle
Two months no spoilers <:SAD:664300899555999754>
Did you see the rogue spoiler doze showed?
strange cargo
Did you see the rogue spoiler doze showed?
Not in #spoilers so it doesn’t exist
late eagle
vivid hemlock
Not in <#1364961153112866846> so it doesn’t exist
burned at the stake
grave geyser
Preboss summons are cool
no they all suck except like 3 of them
tribal isle
The enchanted whatever the fuck summon is so cool
fathom girder
Yeah but it's going to be killed probably
in favor of something better I hope
I need me some fancy ass yoyos brurh
actually if the hm yoyos could see some reworks too that'd be fancy
dull heart
in favor of something better I hope
eh
polar tide
i petted my cat and she meowed at me
blazing field
happens
vivid hemlock
not sorry yoyo economy will die
the great weapon culling is upon us
lapis oak
Lacerator doesn't even work with Yoyo bag it deserves to die
lapis oak
you don't get it
dull heart
both yoyos charge the primary yoyo's saw
lapis oak
you don't get it
dull heart
3
steel pike
https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-meme-black-cat-kitty-kitten-gif-16947053900784246...
city
😮
!
lyric trellis
burning revelation is RIGHT there
And it mogs…
dull heart
lacerator is cool though it has tech
by tech i mean
the saw direction is determined by which way you throw lacerator
and then the blood orb direction is based on where you hit the enemy and the saw's direction
so you can play with that to make the blood shoot at you to be easier to collect
fathom girder
eh
Doze
you can't seriously let the provi yoyo be the ONLY thing available for DoG
c'mon
still cobalt
how much do blood orbs acc reduce ur potion sickness
vivid hemlock
burning revelation has a divine mandate
fathom girder
what does that even mean
grave geyser
you can't seriously let the provi yoyo be the ONLY thing available for DoG
yoyo mains have lived through worse
fathom girder
FULLY AWARE
grave geyser
they deserve worse
echo pier
Nah, malice mode skeletron is just impossible
fathom girder
I mean ig burning revelation is really strong
so there's something
but laceration could like. do something with the yoyo string itself
y'know how when really thin string gets wrapped around your finger and it can cut the finger
razor sharp wire that siphons blood or something IDK
something though please I BEG
vivid hemlock
what does that even mean
exactly as i said
lyric trellis
they deserve worse
Worse is coming
lapis oak
kill yoyos
vivid hemlock
the yoyo purge
fathom girder
NO
I refuse
YOYOS LIVE ON
THEY SHALL REMAIN
if I actually learn how to mod terraria it'd be for yoyos
lapis oak
the return of yoyo bag buff mod
vivid hemlock
most sane yoyo player
lyric trellis
Green = live
Yellow = unsure
Red = death
versed heart
the return of yoyo bag buff mod
Magic Yoyo Bag edition
dull heart
hi
so
i just learned
Shinobi Blade has a lifesteal cooldown mult of 0
so it has no lifesteal cap
fun!
strange cargo
Typical rogue bullshit
blazing field
Green = live
Yellow = unsure
Red = death
no man you cant kill quagmire
hey peter ! says the yoyo
fathom girder
Green = live
Yellow = unsure
Red = death
wtf
pale minnow
Green = live
Yellow = unsure
Red = death
u cant get rid of so many my yoyo class gameplay would suffer
vivid hemlock
quagmire must be killed
fathom girder
yoyo only will be like SO unviable if they remove these
I only hope they have like. better replacements
lyric trellis
u cant get rid of so many my yoyo class gameplay would suffer
Yo-yo gameplay saved because it means there’s less for people to subject themselves to
fathom girder
Removing more yoyos means people aren't even gonna use the cool ones
cuz they won't be built for it
y'know
pale minnow
Yo-yo gameplay saved because it means there’s less for people to subject themsel...
ex-squeeze me
arctic cliff
The real issue is that a lot of yoyos in vanilla aren’t that good to begin with
pale minnow
The real issue is that a lot of yoyos in vanilla aren’t that good to begin with
yelets #1
lyric trellis
cuz they won't be built for it
I mean it’s a single accessory and if a melee player is aware then they’ll buy the glove ahead of time, or they wouldn’t have bought it anyway cause they never use yo-yos
fathom girder
and that's the PROBLEM
pale minnow
wouldjnt a yoyo potion be cool
fathom girder
if you rework the existing yoyos to be cool then the "they never use yo-yos" issue wouldn't even happen
pale minnow
makes ur y oyo spin faster
lyric trellis
Okay but now who’s reworking quagmire
hasty tangle
arctic cliff
lyric trellis
Yoyo mana boosters
strange cargo
Just make it do 4206.9 damage and say giggity every so often
vivid hemlock
Yoyo mana boosters
horror
burnt basin
done
dusty tinsel
Stealing your house
burnt basin
i beat plantera and the ndecided to do a desert build, beach build and then this house
im gonna extend my boss arena and then move on finally
dull heart
echo pier
May malice mode skeletron receive a nerf?
lapis oak
kill Essence Flayer
lapis oak
Creator of yoyo kill list
lyric trellis
I’m doing it
vivid hemlock
exciting developments
arctic cliff
kill Essence Flayer
turn essence flayer and lifehunt scythe into average damage weapons ala Yanmei upcoming Evil Smasher rework
lyric trellis
Lifehunt isn’t surviving the winter
vivid hemlock
how many are getting sent to hell
burnt basin
How’d you get the diagonal beams? They look sick
just used the same dynasty block, hammered them sideways and then actuated them
drowsy reef
Didn’t they get banned for fetishposting or something like that
main falcon
The screwdriver being a building alcohol is so funny to me
I'm getting wasted and going to home depo
main falcon
If I tried reworking it I would have given it a 20% damage penalty and invert piercing scaling
Making attacks increase on damage the longer they pierce
Capping at like 40% of the original damage after like 5 pierces
rough vine
why is arcane odyssey here
main falcon
Capping at like 40% of the original damage after like 5 pierces
Me with the super radiant saw approaching astrum deus
drowsy reef
I'm getting wasted and going to home depo
I can’t stand the taste of alcohol but if I got drunk I’d definitely just spend the whole time doing math problems or something stupid like that
arctic cliff
This isn't terraria related I am sending you to the realm of off topic
hog
main falcon
I can’t stand the taste of alcohol but if I got drunk I’d definitely just spend ...
I assure you that those math problems would end up as chicken scratch
main falcon
If I tried reworking it I would have given it a 20% damage penalty and invert pi...
Would probably change the recipe if that was the case but piercing weapons aren't that strong early game
dull heart
if you rework the existing yoyos to be cool then the "they never use yo-yos" iss...
not possible
Cool yoyo is an oxymoron
Ignore the providence yoyo
dull heart
The screwdriver being a building alcohol is so funny to me
It fits the name
plus we needed one for building so they weren't all combat oriented
lean verge
if you rework the existing yoyos to be cool then the "they never use yo-yos" iss...
this is why Ty's Yoyo Redux is great
main falcon
plus we needed one for building so they weren't all combat oriented
But why
dull heart
so they weren't all combat oriented
Combat isn't the only part of the game that exists
fathom girder
not possible
PLEASE
dull heart
Nor is it the primary gameplay of the game necessarily either
dull heart
I have literally never once had a cool idea for a yoyo ever
fathom girder
I HAD ONE EARLIER
with like
using the string as a razor for lacerator that draws blood and
THERE'S PROMISE C'MON
grave geyser
cool yoyo idea what if it was microwave but with twice as much volume
fathom girder
you can't just abandon them..
lean verge
Doze please I BEG
use Ty's Yoyo Redux it has cal compat
main falcon
I like building in calamity but I don't think I need a second building potion that reduces my damage
dull heart
cool yoyo idea what if it was microwave but with twice as much volume
Ok cook
dull heart
I like building in calamity but I don't think I need a second building potion th...
it gives placement range which is like
really useful
main falcon
You can get like 10 with builders and the accessories
lean verge
really useful
plus the idea of an alcohol that helps you when building is also funny
fathom girder
why not have more
grave geyser
I dont rlly think a building alch makes a lot of sense for alch design but its ultimately not a big deal
main falcon
I think thats quite enough
fathom girder
MOAR
dull heart
plus the idea of an alcohol that helps you when building is also funny
exactly
main falcon
I agree it's funny
dull heart
I dont rlly think a building alch makes a lot of sense for alch design but its u...
I mean it naturally fits into the goal of being for specific playstyles and not general all purpose
main falcon
I just don't think it's fully justifiable beyond that
main falcon
I like the weird effects of the other alcohols
That's why I tried to create one for the screwdriver
woven cargo
any idea why my mate, summoner has his summons keep disipear?
main falcon
He perished
dull heart
any idea why my mate, summoner has his summons keep disipear?
Are they updated to calamity 2.1.2
That was fixed in 2.1.2
dull heart
have em double check to be safe
woven cargo
were playing rn
main falcon
I think reverse pierce scaling is an interesting mechanic for an alternative playstyle
And the 20% damage penalty would be like universal
Affecting debuffs aswell
grave geyser
I mean it naturally fits into the goal of being for specific playstyles and not ...
I mean but a mining alch would've been much the same no?
my problem with it is that like
the downside is just kind of an annoyance rather than an actual downside
because past very early game you have more than enough tools to completely eliminate enemy spawns so its not like it would ever matter practically
dull heart
I think reverse pierce scaling is an interesting mechanic for an alternative pla...
It just becomes Kill Worms
and then don't drink it otherwise
main falcon
Wine beer sinergy
woven cargo
dull heart
if boss is worm drink screwdriver otherwise don't
strange cargo
How about we get a summoner alch before we focus on other things
grave geyser
we have one
main falcon
if boss is worm drink screwdriver otherwise don't
It also helps with multisegmeted bosses like golem and the slimes ravage and enemy spawning bosses
strange cargo
Specifically for sentries
dull heart
Not based on playstyle or build
woven cargo
@lean verge
dull heart
Specifically for sentries <:SAD:664300899555999754>
or whips
strange cargo
Yeah because whips historically scale well 
dull heart
go my release obsidian armor
main falcon
Not based on playstyle or build
I mean i don't think most meele would be that benefited
woven cargo
That was fixed in 2.1.2
hes using the mirror thing with 5 weapons , 2 character girls, 3 dragons and somethin else
dull heart
I mean i don't think most meele would be that benefited
what?
dull heart
still not following why melee would benefit any different than the rest of em
still bluff
summoner alcohol: drink this and you can't use actives but you get 1/3rd more slots
main falcon
boy I like having 11 and a half slots
fathom girder
summoner alcohol: drink this and you can't use actives but you get 1/3rd more sl...
Summoner alcohol: "Creative Stupor": You can summon 50% more sentries, but they deal 25% less damage. Summons deal 75% less damage
fathom girder
dreadmines will win all
strange cargo
Rum already does that
fathom girder
DREADMINES.
listen if I can't have my yoyos then no one can be happy
alright
NO ONE
vivid hemlock
no thats purplestorm in a bottle
dull heart
so true
late eagle
Yeah but it's going to be killed probably
I remember you saying about the reworked bloodstone weapons being changed after ravager rework, do you plan on making a separate mod to bring them back🥺?
late eagle
:(
dull heart
I do want to keep the blood orb gimmick alive
And claret cannon probably will survive
But the rest? dead.
late eagle
dull heart
none of them are particularly interesting
fathom girder
lacerator can just be reworked doze...
please doze...
YOu can't make yoyos a useless subclass c'MON
dull heart
no it can't there's 0 good yoyo ideas
dull heart
And there's burning revelation thwre
So like
It doesn't even need one there for progression
fathom girder
Burning revelation till DoG is HORRIBLE
late eagle
See? Nobody want to make good yoyos, that's why I pretend they don't exist😌
dull heart
if there was a yoyo I'd want to make it polter themed
grave geyser
Burning revelation till DoG is HORRIBLE
its like
2 tiers
fathom girder
Oh that would be neat
dull heart
there's literally one cool yoyo
dull heart
obliterator is going to be mid until magic yoyo bag
fathom girder
the rest are "we put a projectile on a yoyo" but I CAN GIVE IDEAS
dull heart
It's going to be fun with magic yoyo bag I think
fathom girder
Like if you need yoyo ideas I can throw them at you
late eagle
Stomp... Stop it...
dull heart
Like I could make magic yoyo bag detach the yoyos when they teleport
late eagle
You're beating a dead horse...
dull heart
And then they bounce around a while
And if an enemy gets close while they bouncing they teleport again
fathom girder
that would be fancy
but like seriously actually I would MUCH rather throw around ideas instead of watch the yoyos die
dull heart
scal vs 500 tiny yoyo dogs
I do want to save fault line though
I like fault line a lot
grave geyser
It's going to be fun with magic yoyo bag I think
magic yoyo bag is going to be so broken with cal yoyos lfmao
misty wren
It's going to be fun with magic yoyo bag I think
magic yoyo bag needs to be murdered
grave geyser
gonna need an 80% damage penalty
dull heart
We're going to have to recode how all the cal yoyos work probably
late eagle
Stomp looks so miserable right now😢
fathom girder
I AM
dull heart
Lacerator magic yoyo sticking into enemies and sawing away would be so peak
fathom girder
I AM LITERALLY SO MISERABLE
late eagle
Stomp is the yoyo beggar now
fathom girder
the things I will do to keep yoyos alive
misty wren
im not a fan of magic yoyo bag in general because it promotes carpal tunnel simulator but it exists so i have to deal with that
grave geyser
magic yoyo bag is going to be so broken with cal yoyos lfmao
like I would love if this thing was magically balanced but the reality is that it is an item in a version where yoyos are balanced around global iframes, meanwhile cal is over here giving them local
fathom girder
isn't spamming terrarian not even that effective compared to holding it out
at least when I was messin' with it
misty wren
i tested it in vanilla and on at least multi target it was doing 4-5x the damage
main falcon
Neo yo-yo bag
misty wren
its probably not as consistent as holding it out but if its capable of hitting you are still hitting the boss with like 4 or 5 terrarians at the same time
late eagle
"Buy my yoyos" he says while showing their colorful yo-yos to the corporate man with a smile on his face, then the corporate man kicks his face and says "ew a yoyo main get out of here" and proceeds to call the police
Did you like my fanfic?
fathom girder
I take out "The Banker Special", a gold plated yoyo with razor sharp edges
the corporate man is dead before his hand touches the phone
misty wren
its probably not as consistent as holding it out but if its capable of hitting y...
which is insane in cal because yoyos dont run off global iframes here
fathom girder
he is disposed of, his bones used for a new line of halloween themed yoyos
misty wren
basically its the one stop shop for killing worm bosses and other bosses with large hitboxes
main falcon
Neo yo-yo bag
The recipe is 2 yo-yo bags, eleum escence and magma rock
Triple yo-yo action and debuffs
late eagle
Do you know what I really need? More starlight weapon types
I'm happy that I have lightspeed now but I'm greedy and demand MORE
hard copper
polter yo yo bag, because it has the clone
dull heart
Galileo Gladius
grave geyser
Do you know what I really need? More starlight weapon types
....a shortsword with a projectile-only hitbox?
late eagle
Galileo Gladius
True I must use it
fathom girder
isn't that thing viable to Scal