calamity-update-talk

[echo pier]

A joke at what?

it has been unplayable to me after crabulon

[fierce hearth]

Ftw is a joke

[tropic jolt]

its not meant to be taken seriously and its not balanced

[fierce hearth]

So malice was designed to also be a joke

[echo pier]

I regret going into a corruption world, eater of world and hive mind are very unbalanced

[fierce hearth]

Unfair bullshit that feels completely unreasonable

[echo pier]

crimson enemies are more fair to fight

hive mind was my biggest run ender in hardcore death mode

[floral pier]

dude they made so much shit good post moon lord

[fierce hearth]

If you wanted fair you shouldn't be trying to play Malice

[floral pier]

warbanner is stacked

AND THE WEAPONS LOOK SO GOOD

[fierce hearth]

Malice DoG is genuinely a rhythm game

Where missing 1 input ends the fight

[tropic jolt]

munch crunch

[floral pier]

is it worse than infernum dog

[tropic jolt]

much worse

[fierce hearth]

Significantly more frequent attacks with tighter windows

I think GP posted a video using very specific movement to abuse malice DoG's behavior

That gives a good idea of how bad it is

[floral pier]

so like

when malice astrum deus was a thing in 1.5

or far FAR worse

[dull heart]

that looks much easier than it actually is

due to the dashes being predictive, if you're slightly too early he'll hit you

[fierce hearth]

Extremely fast reactions to make sure that you end up in the safe spot and have enough time to still dash/slime out of the way

And yeah, making sure to time it to avoid the prediction

[gloomy grove]

oh that looks fun

[deft lily]

people who take malice seriously after the devs (and multiple other ppl) have stated multiple times that its just a joke difficulty are in the wrong imo

[fierce hearth]

It doesn't last that long normally bc GP isn't really attacking and DoG has 10x hp in that video

[dull heart]

you can't attack

it's a desp

[fierce hearth]

Oh

[dull heart]

10x hp though yeah

[gloomy grove]

oh i didnt notice the 10x hp thing

[fierce hearth]

Yeah GP was just flexing

[polar tide]

unspeakably evil

[dull heart]

they were practicing it

for their nohit

[fierce hearth]

A type of flex

Joking, but yeah

[polar tide]

im playinf malice gfb and thinking about doing this makes me break out in hives

[dull heart]

very peak

[tribal isle]

This looks easy

[fierce hearth]

[tropic jolt]

do it then

[tribal isle]

No

[dull heart]

dog takes double damage in gfb

[tropic jolt]

[deft lily]

nohitting is LAME

nohit challenge ❌
get hit everytime and live challenge ✅

[dull heart]

it's actually possible to kill him so fast the desp doesn't happen

[fierce hearth]

Lmao

[polar tide]

Lol?

[fierce hearth]

Why did y'all do that lmao?

[tropic jolt]

dogs head only does like 1300 damage this should be EASY

[deft lily]

exactly

jokes aside i dont really get the appeal of nohitting outside of bragging rights

[tropic jolt]

its fun sometimes

[tribal isle]

Aura

[tropic jolt]

and other times its

[tribal isle]

Hype moments

[deft lily]

same thing

[white aurora]

is it because of lacerator

[deft lily]

its what?

[dull heart]

1380!

[tropic jolt]

sometimes its just because you're crazy

[deft lily]

minor side effect

[tropic jolt]

are you crazy because you no hit or do you no hit because you're crazy

[deft lily]

i dont no hit
i play the game

[tropic jolt]

[deft lily]

and like uhhh
build stuff and stuff

[dull heart]

the only way to play the game is by pressing alt-f4

[deft lily]

me and @wide nova build

[gloomy grove]

best way to play terraria is to close it and boot up league of legends

[deft lily]

(tyeski did most of it but i helped a bit)

[tropic jolt]

we should kill you for this

[polar tide]

i might hsve drinked too much chocolatey milks

[gloomy grove]

you cant kill me in the big flea from hollow knight silksong

[deft lily]

im sorry for your loss

[polar tide]

ouugh

[deft lily]

id rather play fucking fornite than LoL

deadass

[dull heart]

what if

I could upgrade lemon

[lyric trellis]

So

You plant it into the ground and it upgrades into a tree

[barren nacelle]

like as in a new upgrade or buffing the existinf one

lemonlime 'ade

[lean relic]

Theres no fruit tree mod rn so
someone make it

[barren nacelle]

10,000 biome tree reskins

How would you do pineapple

[tribal isle]

Atleast none got wasted

[barren nacelle]

Actually now's a good time to mention it because I always thought it was stupid

Why do jungle trees drop pineapples and derplings drop grapes

Pineapples are a ground fruit, it grows from a shrub, I have 3 in my yard

Grapes grow on arboreal vines they grow on trees

Why aren't grapes the tree fruit

It's stupid

I hate it

[deft lily]

animal crossing flashbacks.......................

me getting jumpscared by a tarantula at 3 am

[lean relic]

Spicy Pepper growing in Ash trees
What is this do i have to go all the way down to underworld for getting peppers

[lyric trellis]

Polterghast rework

[deft lily]

infernum polterghast

a shame that the fight sucks 💔

[dry whale]

ow, I like the fight..

[deft lily]

i think im the world's #1 infernum hater

and the world's #1 murasama hater

[dry whale]

why murasama?!

[deft lily]

ppl obsess over it like, way too much

and also cuz its a metal gear reference (the 1924891249194 and 4th one to be exact)

[dry whale]

ok that's fair but that doesn't have anything to do with the item itself!!

[deft lily]

the item itself is

eh

[dry whale]

ok that's completly fair

but I need my yharon true melee weapon!!!

[lean relic]

Used gfb murasama before and it was around 700,000 dps

also big ass swing size

[lyric trellis]

Essence Flayer rework save us or something

[deft lily]

the item itself is cool. cool sound effects and a cool sprite and all
but the amount of ppl who obsess over it and use it to get a feeling of superiority above others

is really annoying lmao

[dry whale]

feeling of superiority...?

how...does one get...that...

[deft lily]

good question

ppl on the internet will find any reason to boost their ego

[dry whale]

it's just another item..easy to get..

[deft lily]

confused? you should be
it also confuses me why ppl act that way

also dont get me started on cal overhaul

😨

[dry whale]

cal overhaul is an entirely different thing

[deft lily]

in this context not rlly
the only reason people use it is because it "makes the murasama good"

or at least thats the case most of the time

then when you try and critique the mod for its issue they accuse you of boot licking the cal devs

or the "evil woke cal devs" i should say

[dry whale]

that's...

new.

[deft lily]

yeah its rlly dumb

whatever you do, dont click on the braimstorm trailer and sort by "new" in the comments

😨

[dry whale]

...

[amber egret]

ive just been informed that Fabled (the reforge) will need a buff at some stage in progression

(like artifical, from calamity, like Hard or whatever)

[deft lily]

fabled?

[amber egret]

Ruthless beats it out if the damage on hit is higher than around 250

[deft lily]

oh
1.4.5

?

[amber egret]

yeah

[deft lily]

i see

[amber egret]

since the +3 damage is not worth +21 damage from ruthless (if the damage is high enough)

and since a lotta summons breach 250, Hence

[deft lily]

i dont play attention to other accessory reforges besides warding and more recently, arcane

brainstorm was the first update where i played mage for the first time in terraria

[dry whale]

BWAAAA

[dry whale]

I did it

:c

[deft lily]

tragic

[dull heart]

those are imposters

[tired adder]

isn't it a lot lower?

[amber egret]

doze did you see my comment on Fabled

[deft lily]

idk whats worse
the fact that the horse hasn't changed or the fact that there are people who still defend him

[amber egret]

its somewhere near that

i watched a single Terrasteel video

[dull heart]

What

[amber egret]

^

[dull heart]

ok

i already knew that

[amber egret]

awesome!

[tired adder]

oh okay

I was thinking that 8 flat damage isn't that hard to beat

[dull heart]

fabled doesn't need to get a buff though it can just

exist

[dry whale]

+3 damage tag might be good in cal if it is multiplicative I think...

[dull heart]

why would it be mult

[tired adder]

then I remembered how little +3% is

[tired adder]

fuck mult tag

[dry whale]

idk!

[tired adder]

mult tag was a mistake

flat tag naturally falls off and allows for actual progression

[dull heart]

Fabled might get a nerf tbh

[amber egret]

i can see a nerf in the early game but i doubt it'll be used in the late game

like how warding used to work but now doesnt

[deft lily]

"fabled"
this is clearly a reference to cal fables. therefore base cal shall nerf it.

[dull heart]

Tag and AP are just

[deft lily]

/j

[dull heart]

Way way way too strong early game likely

[amber egret]

the AP is kinda nuts but i dont see the problem with tag

[misty wren]

and late game way too weapon dependant

[amber egret]

+3 flat damage is not that horrid

[dull heart]

the issue is that cal summons actually use local iframes

[tired adder]

compared to what

[amber egret]

(in my eyes)

[misty wren]

compared to other damage boosts

[dull heart]

most early game weapons that's like +15-+30% damage

[amber egret]

+18% damage vs. +10 ap +damage

[dull heart]

reforges are already way too strong

[misty wren]

a flat damage boost is gonna be a lot better early on because you dont have the requisite base damage for damage% to do as much as it does later

[dull heart]

yeah

[tired adder]

aren't summon reforges specifically meant to outclass ruthless?

[misty wren]

no

[tired adder]

okay, not outclass, but "replace"

[misty wren]

they were meant to give summoner actual class reforges instead of mooching off mage like it has been since before summoner as a class existed

[fierce hearth]

I would really like to see reforges shifted from optimization to function as a money sink and toward actually having meaningful choices

But that'd be a huge hassle to develop

[tired adder]

that is compelling reason

[stone fiber]

Looks awesome

[dusty tinsel]

Looks cool. Why ruins though

[deft lily]

tyeski was experimenting and he built a random arch out of acid wood and decorated it
looked cool so we kept it

i think that image is an older version tho.

[dusty tinsel]

We flexing building so Imma flex building for no reason. Made these years ago and no longer have the world's so don't suggest anything I can't do anything to them

[deft lily]

woag

[deft lily]

woag x2

i like the jungle one a lot

[dusty tinsel]

One of my better designs for that build

I had made one before when I entered it for a contest

That one had bridges with the same waterfall technique

Which you switch on and off

[deft lily]

oh nice

[dusty tinsel]

Uses mudstone and that ash stone I forgot the name of

[deft lily]

yeah i forgor too

💀

[dusty tinsel]

Banned

[deft lily]

😔

[molten grove]

theyre taking my job cyver,
the digital brain, the artificial intelligence, they got me good

[deft lily]

rip bozo

[orchid finch]

umbara that was mean

[deft lily]

😔

changing subjects
am i the only one who doesnt really give a shit abt cal fables

[orchid finch]

I wouldn't say not give a shit

but

generally not that interested

[deft lily]

i see

[orchid finch]

it's an interesting mod, has its own things and adaptations of the original content

but

I guess I have a duckling's syndrome

also might be because the mod is in its early stages and I just don't feel like playing a mod that has content only up to like first two vanilla bosses

[deft lily]

i joined the cal community between the period of fables releasing and fab getting exiled and so i wasn't really in on the loop of who fab was as a person until he got removed and i kind of just always thought fables was a spite project

even though ik that isnt true, like at all

but icl it does feel that way 😭

[orchid finch]

well I can't tell you whether it really is spite or just finally letting the creativity bloom

[deft lily]

i think its mostly bc of having "fables" in the title

fabless

and also the fact that its a bunch of ex cal developers

[orchid finch]

honestly I never saw it as intentional

[deft lily]

im pretty sure it was intentional

[orchid finch]

the fables part not the ex cal developers

[deft lily]

ye

[orchid finch]

idk

[gloomy grove]

so you are aware its not a project made out of spite, but you still choose to think it is

[deft lily]

i mean

you dont call it "fables" without a 2nd S for no reason

[dusk bronze]

it is
they confirmed it

[gloomy grove]

i think its disingenuous to pass off the work iban and his team are doing as something done out of malice or spite

[dusk bronze]

it was created partially out of spite but that does not make it lesser in any way

[deft lily]

^

like theres no argument to be made that there wans't any spite period
cuz thats obv not true

was it fueled only on spite?
no ofc not.

[dusk bronze]

after the shit fab pulled i'd be pretty mad too

[deft lily]

fables would've never released if it was only fueled on spite

[gloomy grove]

yes exactly

mrrp and id assume the rest of their team just does not want people going around saying their mod is the "mod thats done to spite fabsol"

[orchid finch]

mod that's done out of spite for fabsol

[polar tide]

calamity is the mod that spites fabsol now

[orchid finch]

and a lot of creativity of course

[barren nacelle]

I’m like top 10 Fabsol haters out there

[orchid finch]

[deft lily]

• proceeds to call the mod "fables"

[gloomy grove]

what about it

[barren nacelle]

Fab less

[frozen horizon]

wait that makes sense

[gloomy grove]

yeah i know the joke floating around but iban has already brought up that its just a coincidence

[barren nacelle]

Lmao I know

[gloomy grove]

i personally find the coincidence really funny but i dont want people going around with the wrong idea that its intentional

[deft lily]

• asks folks to not cause unnecessary petty internet drama
• proceeds to call the mod "fables" out of spite

[gloomy grove]

yeah whatever youre doing thats pretty much what i dont like

[deft lily]

im just pointing out the contradiction

[gloomy grove]

i dont want people going around with the wrong idea that its intentional

[rose laurel]

You Are A Bit Too Hung Over The Name

[gloomy grove]

yeah

[deft lily]

okay idk who to believe then

ive been told two different things

[deft lily]

?

[rose laurel]

It Is Not Hurting Anyone Besides Maybe One Guy Who Deserves It

[deft lily]

so then it is intentional, then.

?

[amber egret]

personally i think itd be Really funny if eventually, a later boss was called Aesop

[deft lily]

aesop?

[amber egret]

Aesop's Fables

[amber egret]

i think the fox and the berry tree is one

kinda like jesus's parables

[gloomy grove]

aesop's fables so obscure to this fandom that will probably go over like 90% of the community's heads

[amber egret]

aesop... obscure...

my heart ....

[deft lily]

anyways
even with the name of the mod aside, cal fables doesnt really interest me all that much

[gloomy grove]

most people know/seen what they have written but dont remember that they are the author

[amber egret]

ahh fair

still, those who know

[gloomy grove]

i can randomly ask a person here who the author of the tortoise and the hare is and they would NOT know

[gloomy grove]

it would 100% be a cute easter egg imo

[rose laurel]

You Are Missing My Point

My Point Is That If The Mod Was Meant To Spite Someone It Has The Name Of The Target Written On Its Title

[deft lily]

i see

[rose laurel]

And Why Should We Care About That When Said Person Is Gone?

[polar tide]

my groundbreaking nuanced opinion of fables is that its existence feels kinda awkward now that the horse was killed like literally 2 months after it was revealed but i don't think it's a huge problem or anything

[amber egret]

i think the mod was kinda made as less a spite piece and moreso a comparison piece

[gloomy grove]

yeah both team's creative direction for the story is different anyways

[deft lily]

gone from calamity? sure
not gone from tmod though unfortunately

[amber egret]

one mod was mainly piloted by The Horse; Fables asked "what if it wasnt?"

not so much "we HATE them. this mod is BETTER."

[rose laurel]

I Said "If" For A Reason

[amber egret]

yeah i was just stating my opinon

[deft lily]

before i found out the horse was attempting to make a new mod i was preaching for people to move on and quit talking abt him

guess it was my fault for assuming that he would get out of the terraria community 😓

[amber egret]

wait what

that first part is news to me what mod were they trying

[gloomy grove]

its also moreso that their direction doesnt line up with the current basecal story and i think thats fine, its actually to see two interpretations of something

[rose laurel]

Just Ignore Him

[amber egret]

yah!

i like the idea of Calamity Story but Again and Fresh

[deft lily]

yeah he isn't worth a slither of attention

[gloomy grove]

TWO CAKES RAGHH

[amber egret]

I LOVE TWO CAKES

i havent actually played fables yet

mainly bc its like stars above: really really short

all of its content ends around crabulon right?

[gloomy grove]

around skeletron yeah

[amber egret]

yeah thats not enough content for me

[iron dew]

content ends at pre-wof now i think

[polar tide]

i think my slight unease with fables comes from me just being primed for the community to be making negative comparisons between it and basecal. when i really think about it i don't have a problem with fables itself i'm just so used to constant shit slinging that when i think about it im like "oh god, i hope what we're making doesn't get compared to fables"

[amber egret]

wait are you a calfables dev

[deft lily]

people are going to compare unfortunately
with the nature of the internet its inevitable

[polar tide]

im caldev not fablesdev

[gloomy grove]

yeah, i think iban wants to make it apparent that both mods are going in different directions with their sunless sea update and moreso as time goes on

[amber egret]

aah

[molten grove]

just focus on doing the best you can and having fun with it

[gloomy grove]

^

[amber egret]

i Love two cakes.

[plush carbon]

...kind of a weird remark

[polar tide]

https://tenor.com/view/true-that-burns-the-sky-true-pokemon-pokemon-true-ultra-necrozma-gif-3766756404502528149

[gloomy grove]

their team is confident that as more content for basecal and fables is pushed out it gets more apparent that both are standalone mods

[polar tide]

the conversation moved on girl leave it

[rose laurel]

Two Cakes

[amber egret]

once the other baker is done making their cake, and the first is done icing it and removing the pineapples

it'll be Awesome.

[deft lily]

idt you have room to talk but sure

[amber egret]

Anyways!!!

[deft lily]

moving on

sso never

[rose laurel]

Also I Am New Here Say Hi

[polar tide]

haiiii

[deft lily]

bye

[amber egret]

hello(?)

[amber egret]

fuuuck

((what do you mean new here might i ask))

[rose laurel]

Refer To Our About Me

[amber egret]

ohhhh okay

okay okay okay i was just making sure

i am, as previously mentioned, very foreign to that general subject so i dont know how to talk abt it w/o walking on eggshells

[rose laurel]

It Is Okay

[amber egret]

hooray :)

[plush carbon]

I just got here

[deft lily]

still

read the room

[amber egret]

Anyways!!!!!!!!!! Again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

who here likes the Distortion!!

[polar tide]

MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[amber egret]

MEEEEEEEEEE

[lyric vortex]

🙏

[amber egret]

im honestly so excited for calamity to have dimensions

[deft lily]

what if i am the distortion

in secret

i mean think abt it

the head on my picture in my pfp could be a portal to it

[amber egret]

bc like. thats two(possibly more!!) more places to Calamity

[deft lily]

think abt it

it makes sense

[polar tide]

distortion is gonna be so fucking fun to work on i cannot wait to start concepting for tht shit

[amber egret]

and its all calamity stuff .

[amber egret]

i have. ideas .

[polar tide]

https://tenor.com/view/lol-durr-durr-emoji-gif-15642131408825364614

[amber egret]

but i hold No power

[lean relic]

✅

[iron dew]

[amber egret]

the ideas are rooted in current gameplay-ish but also they're Cool :)))

[deft lily]

i think cal should turn Rev+ skeletron into freakbob

[lyric vortex]

Honestly I've never played a mod with dimensions in Terraria so idk how it'll work but I wonder if it's gonna be like the size of a whole world when you switch dimensions

[amber egret]

i Need. More. Power.

[wide nova]

yes

[deft lily]

heyllo goayted user

[lyric vortex]

Hey Tye

[polar tide]

my child i hope what i help to deliver will prove satisfactory

[amber egret]

ya y :)

[wide nova]

plagued porta potty idea i made out of sheer boredom that ended up taking me way longer than it should’ve

but hey!!! improvement!!!!

[dusk bronze]

🔥

[deft lily]

Shit of beezlebub

[amber egret]

produces Plagued Poo

alternatively, locker

[iron dew]

good idea, turning skeletron into freakbob would make for an excellent skeletronstorm update

[wide nova]

ykw youre so true

it gives more locker vibes with the screen on the door’s top half

[deft lily]

indeed

[amber egret]

pressu re ....

all my chuds and durrs come from a roblox asym server this is splendid

[lean relic]

a 'bed' but you can't sleep

[polar tide]

my head hurts like shit and fuckkkkkk

[deft lily]

rip it off and replace it

:D

[iron dew]

[dusk bronze]

ibuprofen

[polar tide]

I TRIED!!! DIDNT WORK!!!!

[deft lily]

whar....

[polar tide]

I ALREADY TOOK TYLENOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[deft lily]

well, take more

[amber egret]

ew ...

[dusk bronze]

take 7 more

[amber egret]

foul....

[deft lily]

dont actually

😨

[amber egret]

do you have chewable ice

like ice cubes

[polar tide]

yes

[amber egret]

get a cuppa that shit and eat it

[deft lily]

mmm

ice cubes

😋

[amber egret]

truke .

[polar tide]

that is such a weird suggestion for headache alleviation that i may just have to try it

[deft lily]

wtf its 230

[dusk bronze]

my fuckass bird loves licking ice so much i do not know why

[iron dew]

[deft lily]

in the morning

going 2 bed

[dusk bronze]

going 230 bed

[deft lily]

[lyric vortex]

Gn

[amber egret]

as a guy who gets barometric pressure migraines, the three things that tend to help are

1. ibuprofen
2. peppermint SPECIFICALLY. NOT spearmint. Peppermint.
3. ice

(i am the living barometer!!)

[dusk bronze]

i almost never get headaches but when i do they will not ever go away if i don't take ibuprofen

[amber egret]

oh yeah and if all else fails collapse in bed and go to sleep

migraines suck at riding the dream train

[polar tide]

will keep this in mind thank you king

[amber egret]

you are welcome goat

stay strong

you will weather this storm!!!!!!!!

[polar tide]

ive been having shitty terrible headaches every day for the past like week or so and idk why just trying to survive

[amber egret]

spicy things also sometimes help

if its just like

a headache and not a migraine

dont use spice

[polar tide]

im fallinf aslep so im jusr gonna rest and hopefully itll be gone when i wake up

[wide nova]

water

hella fucking water

[tribal isle]

Pills

Every household has migraine pills

Ibuprofen

[high scaffold]

Somebody finaly did a good suggestion on fixing celestial onion and the accessory slots in difficulties

[stiff light]

you be WHAT

why stop at ibuprofen

[amber egret]

yeah.

you heard me .

[stiff light]

take like codeine and pass out

[amber egret]

nah i dont like sleep meds

[stiff light]

codeine isnt a sleep med

[amber egret]

what isnit

[stiff light]

its a painkiller

[amber egret]

i have ibuprofen

[stiff light]

ibuprofen does like nothing

[amber egret]

sure it does

either that or a placebo myself into thinking so

[stiff light]

i heart placebo effect

[amber egret]

i love placebo

[white nexus]

Summoner. With a certain, very unassuming mod, multiple tens of millions of DPS is possible the instant Devourer of Gods is defeated.

Yharon is cooked.

[plush carbon]

summoner. wake up, and look for other summoners

[white nexus]

Idk the reference.

[plush carbon]

one night ultimate werewolf

[white nexus]

Ah

[high scaffold]

I wonder what mod could it be

[white nexus]

This thing. Unofficial Calamity Whips.

[high scaffold]

Catalyst is better

[white nexus]

It also changes a whole bunch more stuff.

[tired adder]

did they fix the design issue of whips having no summon tag whatsoever?

[white nexus]

^

Not a single one has tag damage on this version. Or, at least most of them don't. I can think of one that does.

[high scaffold]

3 whips in, 2 already have summon tag

[white nexus]

This thing is the only one, and it somehow manages to multiply your move speed by like 3.5x

[white nexus]

Very nice.

[high scaffold]

It more of an issue with calamity deciding that all whips should have % tag damage instead of flat and catalyst following it

But half of catalyst whips do in fact not have any summon tag

[white nexus]

Mhm

I'm avoiding Catalyst because of how much it changes.

[high scaffold]

1.4.5 tmod and calamity summoner rebalance with catalyst following up should fix that all

[twin juniper]

The stardust whip is viable for boss rush 🙏

[white nexus]

That, seems like it maybe shouldn't be the case, lol

[high scaffold]

"how much it changes" 2 dozen weapons and a boss

[rose swan]

catalyst is
okay i suppose

[white nexus]

Self describes as an alternate universe and NG+

So,

mod's fault.

[open wadi]

hey my friend and I have an issue
whenever he dies during a boss the boss despawns, we have the permadeath mod and its master death rn
anyone know why this is happening?

[rose swan]

i wouldn't play it if you dont want to

[high scaffold]

When it finaly updates? Maybe

[white nexus]

Oh well.

[high scaffold]

But I would rather use vanila whips or none at all then unofficial calamity whips

[white nexus]

Good on you. I'm gonna go sweep Nameless Deity.

[twin juniper]

whips effect having no cooldowns were the funniest part of it

[high scaffold]

WotG too...

[white nexus]

Wanted to try it. Looked cool.

[high scaffold]

The most overrated calamity addon ever, glad its becoming a separate mod with no connection to calamity at all

[mystic eagle]

Wrath of the Gods? More like Wrath of the Bugs

[high scaffold]

Wrath of the mid

[white nexus]

Postgame content.

Something to actually use Demonshade armor against.

[high scaffold]

3 bosses and an npc that all contridict calamity lore with barely any actual content

[hasty hawk]

You can use Catalyst and Unofficial whips at the same time

[white nexus]

And?

[white nexus]

No thanks.

[hasty hawk]

We might do so now that Cal is back to flat but nothing definitive due to summoner update, I’ll see what I can do after discussing the matter with the team

[white nexus]

Just, this.

[tired adder]

what's an "actual content" to you?

[white nexus]

Apparently 10 weapons and a boss. Sounds like WotG is a pretty big content addition in comparison.

G'night. It's 4 AM.

[tired adder]

is astrageldon still not possible to fight after ML?

[white nexus]

No idea. I'm using Hunt of the Old God since it, seemingly, wants to bring him back as well but different.

[hasty hawk]

Btw the fix for Catalyst’s rogue weapons not being able to get reforges has been found, its quite the silly solution but effective: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/890430732797870110/1478879261359341780/image.png?ex=69ad4ce4&is=69abfb64&hm=b6a008a45f77296da856fdaac25761eeaa27b8bd096f5ff41017a2eba5f704a2&

Supposedly this is supposed to allow the weapon to get the generic reforges, but for rogue it makes the weapon actually get reforges

[tired adder]

...why that was even a thing

[hasty hawk]

No clue why it doesnt do it by default for addon rogue weapons but oh well

[hasty hawk]

Indeed, theres a mod for that tho

[earnest jewel]

https://discord.com/channels/225030931008847874/1112873622562947104
I think that's its whole gimmick.

[hasty hawk]

Anyways Catalyst might update after Cal releases another hotfix? idk (its also bugfixes for Catalyst, content and balancing needs some time)

Any news on next Calamity patch or nah?

[solar hare]

not looking to be another hotfix soon

[hasty hawk]

I see

[solar hare]

or maybe yes im not sure

not in the immediate future for sure

[main pond]

Hello guys

[earnest jewel]

Hello.

[white nexus]

Honestly,
Everything around the Nameless Deity is a joke. Every single drop. Even its lore item is just seemingly randomly generated strings of words. It’s not meant to be canon. On par with Teh Lorde.

That said, it’s still more content than Catalyst. Besides, the story it adds is really cool.

[mystic eagle]

It has more content yes, but it's one of the most buggy Unofficial Addons out there, only really being beaten by Cal Overhaul

[hasty hawk]

Cal Overhaul didnt have that many awful bugs last time I tried it

just turn the rework AIs toggle in its config off

Why is that on by default if its unfinished?

[white nexus]

What bugs exactly? I’m at Exo Mechs and haven’t run into any.

[mystic eagle]

Solyn oftentimes doesn't spawn
The entire mod falling apart in Multiplayer

[white nexus]

The multiplayer thing is mostly just Dimensions. It’s still a work in progress. Even breaks in Infernum multiplayer with the sand shark boss it adds.

[mystic eagle]

That does not make it any less bugged

[white nexus]

True, but not WotG’s fault.

[mystic eagle]

Especially given that the subworlds are required to beat WotG

[hasty hawk]

Subworld Lib moment

[blazing field]

hi calamity update talk

[white nexus]

Indeed.

[white nexus]

Hello.

[white nexus]

The Solyn thing is likely just jank caused by her unique method of spawning. Easy to fix with Hero’s mod, devs could add an item dropped by Skeletron that spawns her if she breaks, and even then fixing her spawning is likely a top priority as like… the only bug they actually have that’s on them.

[blazing field]

contradict calamity lore

me hwen the unofficial fanmade addon is unofficial and fanmade

It's not Trying to be canon or accurate to calamity lore

It's doing its own thing, and the wotg lore is actually pretty cool if you look at it standalone, which is in fact the intent 👍

[white nexus]

nesegx just really doesn’t like WotG, and loves Catalyst.

[blazing field]

Specially when you consider the mod is literally gonna completely split from calamity with future updates

[blazing field]

It's not really

A joke no

It's not a shitpost boss like the lorde, and not a high quality shitpost like ccr (goated) either

[hasty hawk]

CCR 🔥

[blazing field]

beloved

[hasty hawk]

it even adds Exolotl

[blazing field]

go my 50 different -ogens

[hasty hawk]

and revives the Stormbow class from PaS

[blazing field]

calamity community remix is goated because its one of the most high quality shitposts i've seen 😭

its wild

like,

[halcyon seal]

I think the worst thing about ccr is that it is genuinely a really good mod

[white nexus]

So when WotG splits from Calamity, it basically means they remove Mars, and speed up the void so you go fight Emptiness after Moonlord.

[blazing field]

since it had actual talented programmers working on it actively its more high quality than base calamity in some aspects 😭 , though now with brainstorm we got alot more stuff thats comparable (boc,,,) beyond just weapons

[halcyon seal]

Strip back all the layers of shitpost and it’s genuinely well made and fun

That pisses me off on a personal level

A mod containing Fanny the Flame cannot be good

[blazing field]

We dunno how they're gonna go about the calamity content exactly, and new content is not out of question

we dont really know anything beyond, its gonna not be a cal addon anymore

[blazing field]

I KNOW RIGHT 😭

[hasty hawk]

^ TRUTH NUKE

[stone fiber]

I mean, maybe they'll just make Mars into an original boss?

[halcyon seal]

Doubt it

Mars kinda has to be linked to Draedon to make any sense

[blazing field]

It's possible if they change around the sprite and aesthethics of it

[halcyon seal]

Because why would the mechanic build this

[blazing field]

And just keep the actual gameplay

[blazing field]

Like the design ingame is very much Exo Mech

it looks similar to ares

but if they change its aesthethics and sprite

It could make sense as Not that

And the surrounding stuff too ofc

[white nexus]

I just hope they maybe split it into a different mod , or they make some code that allows it to scale with Calamity (effectively keeping the current difficulty if you use Calamity).

[hasty hawk]

likely the latter

which is very possible

[halcyon seal]

wotg2 said in the same cadence as PEGGLE! TWO!!!

[stone fiber]

Yeah, it's literally an upgraded version of Ares

[blazing field]

It will still be compatible with calamity, just wont depend on it

[hasty hawk]

See:
Fargos Souls (dlc code was split on 1.4 tmod and now is its own mod)
Stars Above

[white nexus]

^ From where I’m standing I’m worrying they’re going to make Nameless Deity as strong as Primordials in Thorium, lol

[hasty hawk]

Checking for another mod is very easy nowdays

[halcyon seal]

I mean it has joke drops but that’s mostly because there’s nothing to do after ND

AoE is the same, both are balanced around the exact same gear

So you can’t really add new weapons or accessories

Otherwise they’d break the fights or just not be used because they’re worse than shadowspec

[white nexus]

Like you can just go fight Nameless Deity immediately post Moonlord,

and any Calamity gear past that point trivializes the fight.

That’s what I’m worried about happening.

[stone fiber]

I know
That's cool

[halcyon seal]

that’s what you get when you mix another content mod with calamity lol

Like you simply can’t balance around every mod at once no matter how many tweaks you do

LOOK AT SOTS ELEMENTAL AMULET AND TELL ME THERES A GOD

[white nexus]

Actually, Thorium gets balanced really well with Calamity by Ragnarok and Thorium Boss Overhaul.

The boss changes are genuinely cool as heck.

[halcyon seal]

Borean Strider dies in 20 seconds

Grand Thunder Bird I killed in 6

[stone fiber]

I agree

[halcyon seal]

Like Ragnarok is a great addon but it is not balanced at all

And also does nothing to alleviate thorium gear also being insanely busted in its own right

[white nexus]

Idk what gear you’re using, but if you’re using both Ragnarok and Thorium Hellheim, they don’t die that fast.

Also yes, these two mods do alleviate the fact thorium gear is strong. They tie progression together and better lock away strong gear. I couldn’t get a Primordial set until after DoG, and the DPS between it and Silva was very close.

[halcyon seal]

Magick Staff is a pre-boss weapon that applies ichor, cursed flame, and a billion other debuffs

It is unchanged

[twin juniper]

Hellheim primordials too har

[white nexus]

Sure thing. It also sucks.

[unreal shuttle]

wait why cant i use shimmer arrows to use wooden arrow converting bows

[halcyon seal]

Healer is one of the most insanely strong classes in any terraria mod

It is mostly unchanged

[halcyon seal]

It does not

How do you think I killed thunder bird in 6 seconds

[white nexus]

Magick Staff falls off at about Scourge.

[white nexus]

It has low attack, and its DoT is not that strong.

[halcyon seal]

Are we using the same weapon???

[white nexus]

Did it get buffed???

This thing caused Scourge to glitch out when headshot last time I used it.

[halcyon seal]

It deals 12 DPS with its debuff, more than abyssal amulet which was one of the best accessories in the game offensively for all of pre hardmode

ICHOR

IN PRE BOSS

[white nexus]

Y’know what else deals 12 DPS? A copper pickaxe.

[halcyon seal]

-20 defense basically makes it so that defense doesn’t exist for all but skeletron

[burnt basin]

latest build in progress, right nexct to solyn

[halcyon seal]

High projectile velocity

Low mana cost

Genuinely the perfect support weapon in any context

[halcyon seal]

I like giving Solyn her own little enclosure whenever she shows up

No light pollution for stargazing

[late eagle]

Hi calamity update talkers

[burnt basin]

she lives with us

[white nexus]

Defense isn’t that huge early on. Thunder Bird has 6. That means he takes 6 less flat damage on Master Mode. That’s not a 2 minute -> 6 second fight difference.

[halcyon seal]

Defense is that huge when your weapons deal very little damage

Minishark

[white nexus]

You unironically use minishark?

[halcyon seal]

Minishark is fucking incredible with def pierce

The reason it gets outclassed by flintlock is exactly because of defense

Without defense holding it back, plus a free unconditional +12 DPS

[white nexus]

So you’re telling me you’re multiclassing?

[halcyon seal]

Of course it’s gonna be better

[burnt basin]

gonna house 5 npcs. they betetr be grateful otherwise im gonna place them in torture chambers FOREVER

[halcyon seal]

Yes???

[white nexus]

Anyhow, nobody made you use Magick Staff.

[halcyon seal]

Why does that matter

It’s the best so I’m gonna use it

If the best option is boring and way too overpowered, I don’t like it

But I’ll still use it because it’s the best

[late eagle]

Here's a spoiler for the upcoming new update, they tried to kill me but I survived just to show this awesome secret spoiler for u guys you're welcome.

[white nexus]

Just like I’ll be using my Devourer whip that can 300x my summon damage.

[white nexus]

That’s a dumb way to go about things. If you don’t like it, don’t use it.

[halcyon seal]

“If you don’t like it don’t use it” is antithetical to the concept of game balancing imo

And honestly it kinda pisses me off

People WILL use it

If something is known to be the best, it will be used more frequently than anything else

[white nexus]

Sure, it’s also a pain to get and falls off in DPS, so whatever.

[halcyon seal]

It’s really not? One of each gem is pretty easy to get by just casually mining

[white nexus]

Dude, it’s ichor for 2 seconds. You’re not getting crud done with other weapons in that time.

[halcyon seal]

2 seconds is a lot

Like a LOT

[lapis oak]

Omg you play League ok let's go play League

League of Legends

[halcyon seal]

1 second of ichor, maybe I could see your point

2 seconds is more than enough to get shit DONE

[white nexus]

Sure thing.

Y’know what deals more damage tho?

The silk armor.

Silk armor + mana shoes.

[late eagle]

I should have known🤦

[halcyon seal]

Then I’ll use both

[white nexus]

Go for it.

[late eagle]

Kiri is a lol person

Smelly

[white nexus]

It’s still not so good as to kill Strider in 20 seconds. You should totally try out Hellheim, and tell Ragnarok’s config to use Hellheim’s changes.

It makes them all entirely different bosses.

Rgnarok on its own is still baby mode Thorium,

oh yeah! You can just like, increase the boss’ power in the configs can’t you?

[hardy gulch]

[white nexus]

You created the situation you complained about. Idk what to tell you. If you’re gonna complain, don’t use it, don’t play it. Nobody made you use it. You chose to give yourself something to complain about, which is crazy. Nuff said.

[frail owl]

you play sion?

[lean relic]

i see something happened yesterday while i was not there
yeah im not planning to post that sso tile sheet in reddit lol
look at those only in #calamity-update-talk

[gloomy grove]

bro wants a baus on his party

[frail owl]

yes

support sion

[high scaffold]

Next update is someday

Will rework and add something

[burnt basin]

walls and base design done, gonna do decor and such tmr (+ changes and additions along the way)

[clear pine]

i keep forgetting but is there like a date for tmod updating or no?

[cinder pumice]

probs not

[clear pine]

i miss boulder blocks

[pseudo vector]

not until later in 2026 but there is no set date

we know about as much as you do lol

[clear pine]

lol ty tho

[blazing field]

tmod update in 5 days

[cinder pumice]

chat is this real

[clear pine]

why would anyone ever lie in calamity update talk

[lean relic]

tmodloader weekly update

horrible parallel

[prisma cipher]

is old lords claymore pre boss ?

[lean relic]

4% drop at pre evil1
25% at post so yes

[fathom girder]

Tmod update was yesterday

[high scaffold]

I wonder when is new ui coming

[clear pine]

i wonder if its gonna be the same since terraria did something similar in their update right?

[still cobalt]

Its typically a couple months after so probably late summer early fall if were lucky

[clear pine]

well like 90% of upcoming stuff is gonna change prob anyway

[high scaffold]

Upcoming calamity ui is(was) planned to be extended and upgraded version of vanila ui, with health and mana being an extension of existing bar ui type that also displayed character name, broken armor and summon slots, refreshed rage adrenalin and maybe stealth ui and new calamity boss health bar style that is similar to vanila but also shows more info

[clear pine]

the broken armor and bar being moved is nice

[twin roost]

ummmm

[placid ocean]

i think that entity wants to cause a calamity

[twin roost]

SHIIIIT DAWG you might have a point.

[strange cargo]

that could be calamitous

[severe coral]

Oh god why is it [quite sizeable]

[frail owl]

where calamiwires?

[earnest jewel]

Why did Yharim go to Bowser's School for Final Bosses?

[fathom girder]

Bowser knows his shit

[tropic jolt]

will yharim be defeated by jumping on his head three times

[earnest jewel]

Don't be ridiculous. You have to jump on a switch with a big exclamation mark to make him fall into lava.

[tropic jolt]

true

[halcyon seal]

common misconception! you actually have to grab him by his tail and swing him into bombs three times

[earnest jewel]

No, that's if he replaces his cape with a pride flag.

[tropic jolt]

Yharim was a lizard after all

[dull heart]

Ichor is -10

-15 in vanilla

[halcyon seal]

really?

either way its still REALLY impactful for pre-boss lol

[frail owl]

+5 damage

[halcyon seal]

+5 damage for free is like really good

[severe coral]

7-8 expert, 10 master :3

[rare tinsel]

I knew it!

[rare tinsel]

That only applies to players

[halcyon seal]

nope

[severe coral]

Wait whaaat

[halcyon seal]

def is always divided by 2 regardless of difficulty for enemies

[rare tinsel]

Enemies always have their defense at like, 50%

[severe coral]

Ok so jagged still sucks nvm

I will promptly rereforge my shit to menacing

[misty wren]

depends

[severe coral]

In hardmode it adds 2 armour penetration, or ONE flat damage up

[frail owl]

1

[misty wren]

it can be really good depending on weapon choice

[dull heart]

Jagged is an earlier game reforge yes but it can definitely be relevant in hardmode

[severe coral]

Menacing and Jagged both share 2% damage, and Menacing has 2% additional damage while Jagged has 2 AP

[frail owl]

dedicated your entire loadout to jagged to partially replicate rtn's effect

[severe coral]

So unless 2% grants less than 1 extra damage (< 50dmg/hit), menacing is better

And this all hinges on said enemy having defense at all

Otherwise Menacing is just way better

[misty wren]

considering its hardmode the enemy has defense

[dull heart]

Specifically 50 base dmg

Not 50 dmg per hit

[severe coral]

Well some effects have less than the listed amount's damage

Like my Spent Fuel Container says ~450dmg but never deals more than 300 so 🤷‍♂️

[misty wren]

you cant make the if it doesnt have defense argument in hardmode

[dull heart]

yes but

• defense applies before DR, so 50 per hit is inaccurate there
• damage boosts stack additively, so 50 per hit is inaccurate there

[severe coral]

Hmm

So if an enemy has 10%dr and 10def.. 100dmg -> 85.5dmg
+10%dmg = 94.5dmg
+10ap = 90dmg

[dull heart]

I'm not bothering to do the math but probably

[severe coral]

I get that there is some fuckass formuler to determine when an increase in either value relative to current net stats is greater but at the end of the day if you're trying to minmax that hard the game is no longer fun and you should maybe legit lower the difficulty or just stop and be normal

[misty wren]

nah minmaxing is fun

i love minmaxing

[severe coral]

🙏😭_ _

[misty wren]

its like half the fun i have in calamity

[severe coral]

I am not a religious man but I will pray for your salvation

[tired adder]

honestly the only problem I see with that weapon is that it is not gated at all

[dull heart]

I also find it fun

[severe coral]

You know what's not fun is DoG being immune to all debuffs

[dull heart]

He isn't

[severe coral]

Basically

[dull heart]

No he just

Isn't

[lapis oak]

he is not

[dull heart]

The head can get just about every debuff

[severe coral]

90%DR and just immune to crumbling like why even have crumbling if it can't shine

[fathom girder]

He is in fact very diseasable

[severe coral]

The head is like 1% of the boss

[dull heart]

The head is where you do most of the damage

[fathom girder]

A GOD... CANNOT... CRUMBLE...

[dull heart]

for most weapons

[severe coral]

Crumbling is such an ass debuff

[fathom girder]

If you do want okay body damage, use a spite candle

Cuz that buff ignores defenses entirely

[lapis oak]

wait a minute

[dull heart]

Spite candle gonna go insane on [redacted]

[lapis oak]

why he's not immune to GSI

[severe coral]

To what

[misty wren]

new aureus rework brings BACK the 50% dr

god slayer inferno

[dull heart]

I was meaning a weapon

[misty wren]

the dog debuff

[severe coral]

a

[fathom girder]

Lemon nade

[dull heart]

Not an enemy

[fathom girder]

Is what doze means

I think

[misty wren]

new aureus rework makes it a weapon

[dull heart]

Close but off by two

[fathom girder]

DAMNIT

[dull heart]

Lemon 'nade is so satisfying to use

[lapis oak]

doze why DoG not immune to GSI and WD

[dull heart]

the stealth just tickles my brain so well

[lapis oak]

that's kinda weird

[dull heart]

why would he be

he doesn't inflict WD

[fathom girder]

He considers himself a god

[lapis oak]

is wiki still outdated

[fathom girder]

So he can be godslayered

[dull heart]

And just because he uses GSI doesn't mean he himself would be immune to it

[vocal kelp]

hes made out of the debuff actually

fire camel

[fathom girder]

This logic should be applied to more things like that stupid sky worm that I hate

Stormweaver should crumble to electric debuffs

[earnest jewel]

Yeah, but you see, he's not a god, he slays gods, therefore he gives the inferno and takes the outferno.

[fathom girder]

Throws a godslayer inferno at you

[lapis oak]

then this should be applied to more bosses in general

[dull heart]

it's a case by case basis

[fathom girder]

Doze i want to overload storm weaver like a car battery

[lapis oak]

pretty sure we could put half of the list down

[dull heart]

also I didn't even think about it bc GSI is post dog

[dull heart]

Use Gilded Proboscis

15 seconds of 200 dps electric debuff

[still bluff]

Plug him into your dragonfolly

[fathom girder]

Storm weaver summons too many lightning orbs for me to true melee him consistently

[dull heart]

That's why you use proboscis

[fathom girder]

Sorry you wanna be at the tail? LIGHTNING ORB

It's always when you DON'T want it to be there

[dull heart]

Proboscis is a go in once in a while type weapon

[still bluff]

Just circle better

Smh

[fathom girder]

I'm gonna square that bastard

[lapis oak]

alright one more time is DoG still inflict WD or not

history page doesn't say anything about it

[severe coral]

Ohhh

Ok I get it

[dull heart]

I think he doesn't

[lapis oak]

you think?

[fathom girder]

What's wd?

[dull heart]

I didn't remove it though

[fathom girder]

Wodslayer dinferno?

[vocal kelp]

you guys should look at my awesome wikitables

[dull heart]

no look at my awesome tier list website

[vocal kelp]

doze you should know that is the last thing i would want to look at

[severe coral]

So Spite adds 7% of what an attack would deal if there was no defense or DR to the final damage?!?!

[dull heart]

ok but it's pretty

[severe coral]

Dude that's so fucking good for DoG

[frail owl]

hi there enderpikmin colony

[fathom girder]

Yes it is

[severe coral]

That's a fucking 70% increase in segment damage

[vocal kelp]

well my awesome wikitables are also pretty

[fathom girder]

Death's ascension with spite candle is funny

[dull heart]

Whispering Death

[fathom girder]

Oh

[frail owl]

can i get a pikmin?

[severe coral]

Death's Ascension is funny

[vocal kelp]

no you cannot get a pikmin

sorry!

[dull heart]

Y'know what's really funny

[fathom girder]

Can I

[dull heart]

Stratus Sphere with spiteful

[vocal kelp]

we have no way to ensure you will give it the proper living conditions

[dull heart]

Lion Heart with spiteful

[frail owl]

[fathom girder]

Copper shortsword with spiteful

[severe coral]

Now that Calamity atomized defense builds I'm learning so much about damage builds

[vocal kelp]

was going to say something about my wikitables again but i just remembered a bunch of cal bosses cant really use it because they dont have defined attacks but rather shit projectile on timer

[severe coral]

I could make such a good build

[fathom girder]

Defense setups were replaced by regen spam

[frail owl]

eh defense setups are still superb

[dull heart]

Future rework of ██████ ███████████ with spiteful

[fathom girder]

Lemon grenadiers

[frail owl]

because nothing can surpass defense setups

[vocal kelp]

it used to be a ocuple years ago you just slapped in sponge and rampart and went on with your life, nowadays they have you put some woke bullshit in like reworked chalice and bloom stone

[dull heart]

Not true when rover drive and stratus sphere allow bypassing of defense damage

[fathom girder]

FOR NOW

[lapis oak]

bug abuse tier

[frail owl]

hi there kiri

[lapis oak]

👊

[fathom girder]

Don't punch them wtf

[frail owl]

👊 💥

[vocal kelp]

also these things need to have like a synergy

[dull heart]

chalice and Bloom stone?

[vocal kelp]

yes

[fathom girder]

They do have a synergy

[clear pine]

time to build gully today (bc im gonna redo all of upper sect.) any suggestions on what it should look like before i start terraforming?

also im doing the lower water-free section of the gully near the underworld so ye no active lava zone ):

[echo pier]

Can the next update change skeletron so when you click "curse" it has a 5 seconds animation before the boss can damage you?

it's so annoying i get hit twice in a row almost dying in the exact frame i click "curse" on the old man

infernum does that, so can base calamity

[plush carbon]

Nah

It’s a feature

[clear pine]

red land

like it so bright red rn it hurts

[fathom girder]

It's because you're cursed now

Also the "infernum does that" precedent isn't acceptable

Infernum does its own thing

Cal can do things its own way

[plush carbon]

I’m a little surprised it wasn’t changed in the Great Contact Damage Nuking

[strange cargo]

Chudfernum

[wary crest]

Fargos mutant probably has a consumable summon

Just use that

[main estuary]

they'll probably do that when they rework skeletron in the post-fabsol sense

like the brain

[lean relic]

why are they like this

[wary crest]

Still faster than true melee vanilla exos

[hasty tangle]

can be done in under 4 minutes without even minmaxing

tm exos arent a slow endurance battle anymore

[wary crest]

It took me 12
Tf are yall doing that it’s taking 4

[hasty tangle]

https://youtu.be/j0JiQ8TvT24

[fathom girder]

All of them are indeed reachable

[dusk bronze]

what do we think

[fathom girder]

Twins are possible for both p1 and p2 but it's tricky

[fathom girder]

Rather vague, but i see the idea

[strange cargo]

I see the vision twin

[dusk bronze]

yippee

[fathom girder]

Alternatively it could be a wall in front of the azafure

And then you only access it via killing wof or by finding another way around it, but the blocks are a pain to mine before hm

[dusk bronze]

cool idea, but there's gonna be post skeletron crags armor for mage eventually

[fathom girder]

Ah shit

[tired adder]

the crags in pre-hm are rather desolate place

[dusk bronze]

i wonder why

[tired adder]

yes, it makes sense

[dusk bronze]

perhaps some king of eye of desolation came and burned everything

[tired adder]

but I wish it had more things to do there

[azure oak]

neat

[fathom girder]

It will eventually

...eventually...

[wary crest]

I’m gonna blame me being full warding tank build and not being focused on Dps

Or just a skill issue

Or both

[hasty tangle]

i didnt go too overboard on the dps in that vid either

[fathom girder]

True melee really wants you to know how to micromanage your position

In essence you are the projectile

[hasty tangle]

3 damage accs, 2 defensive ones, and 2 mobility

id say the key is effectively getting and using adrenaline, especially to cut down on the length of solo twins

[twin juniper]

What if it have hallow themed projectiles for lore reasons

[pulsar cobalt]

gp forgot to reforge wings of rebirth lol

[hasty tangle]

:lO:

epic emote fail

[fathom girder]

Foveanator flashbacks...

[hasty tangle]

byeah just goes to show how little i care about optimization

[misty wren]

ABYSMAL DOGSHIT!

[pulsar cobalt]

the acc reforge spread was 1 warding, 1 violent and 4 lucky

[hasty tangle]

close enough

[wary crest]

I think this is what I was running for exos
All warding

[fathom girder]

The spong

Amalgam in a tmelee build is kinda wasted imo

True melee doesn't quite abuse debuffs like other classes can

[hasty tangle]

smth like warbanner would have been better

[fathom girder]

Current warbanner is so swag for tmelee

[wary crest]

I tried swapping out amalgam for war banner on scal and the dps felt a lot lower

[lyric trellis]

For longer fights amalgam is pretty decent if you can’t hit that much to help chip down (so twins)

[hasty tangle]

ngl id argue that you dont want to go for chip

you want to chunk them with adrenaline

[fathom girder]

Amalgam will have more universal potency when yharim's gift gets reworked next update

[hasty tangle]

and you can get a LOT of damage during ohio with adren

[fathom girder]

Cuz it'll apply auric rebuke to all attacks

And that with amalgam is nuts

[lyric trellis]

Nuke

[celest glen]

good idea but what attacks would it have when stationary?

[fathom girder]

Anything is possible

Hungry lunges, angry leeches

[twin juniper]

puking out leeches

[fathom girder]

Wof could use its own flesh to tunnel towards you

[dusk bronze]

i thought one where like
flesh arms come from the ceiling or floor to attack you might be cool

or just from the wall itself