calamity-update-talk

[pulsar cobalt]

Timeless Shores:
Dunesand
Runestone
Arid Soil

Radiant Reefs:
Eutrophic Sand
Shellstone
All Corals

Polyp Forest:
Polyp Sand
Limestone
Limestone Cobble

Gleaming Burrows/Clam Den (Currently the only difference is how the generation looks):
Hardened Eutrophic Sand
Navystone
Sea Prism
All Pearl Piles

Basalt Gully:
Superheated Obsidian
Volcanic Sand
Basalt

Keep in mind that this information comes from info that is not representative of the full release. It will most likely not be 100% accurate.

[distant agate]

tf is this

[rare tinsel]

focus t

[tired adder]

I thought that it would be hilarious if Focus T was a real thing

[stone fiber]

Calamity if it was made by MAPPA

[tropic jolt]

[lean relic]

This will appear on right of screen alongside yharim face icon and audiogram

[lean relic]

📋
I learned

[deft lily]

cal dev drama number 39287483944 and 4

[tropic jolt]

would AAA calamity have more or less worm bosses

[tired adder]

ech

[deft lily]

mustve been the wind

[rare tinsel]

less

[lyric trellis]

I hate you because I thought this was serious for a second

[rare tinsel]

they’d all be forgettable, lone target dummies to “not overwhelm the modern audience”

[tired adder]

there will be more humanoid bossez

[grave geyser]

the devourer of gods would be a cutscene boss

[lapis oak]

😭 what

[tired adder]

like you would be able to fight Draedon as your rival

[lapis oak]

GP you know I wouldn't be saying it like that

[lyric trellis]

You killed YuH

You’re next

[lapis oak]

actually...

[tired adder]

getfixedboi now has to be removed

to respect the dead

[lyric trellis]

Actually

Maybe it’s worth it

[tropic jolt]

AAA calamity would have 120 bosses and they would all be optional filler except for 8 or 9 of them

which isnt any different from current calamity honestly

[tired adder]

to kill YuH to remove Zenith changes?

[unique warren]

Fun fact, AAA actually means ancients awakened awakened

[dusk bronze]

[tired adder]

Ancient Awakened Alternate Soundtrack

AAAS

[lean relic]

They awaken the ancients awakened awakened

[tired adder]

...I always assumed that it was just some art project for mod that has died in ditch

nope, it's apparently real mod, that the composer of AAAS is doing alongside other people

[lyric trellis]

Bless all double vowel acronym terraria content mods

[tired adder]

what are the others, though

SoA is three letters

[lyric trellis]

Elements Unleashed, Elements Awoken

Probably another one

[fierce hearth]

Is there any way to code reforging accessories to not repeat the one it currently has because having added 3 new prefixes has made the pool of randomness very frustrating and even narrowing it down by 1 per roll would be a huge relief

Trying to swap from menacing to invig was so annoying I spent over 90 plat on my post-yharon loadout

[clear pine]

ive kinda started building the timeless shores now

they are sooo much more fun to build than reg desert even with the limited blocks

[tired adder]

now that's some oldschool cut

[lapis oak]

it should be a known issue that the current reforges are really bad

because it's the same as vanilla

just pure RNG and frustration

I hope something can be done about it soon

[pulsar cobalt]

yea pickaxes and summon weapons have cycling between legendary/light and mythical/ruthless

[tropic jolt]

I wish you could just select your reforge like with enchantments

[pulsar cobalt]

tho this could just be like

well u cant reforge into the one u have for weapons iirc

[tropic jolt]

its accessory reforging thats the problem I think

[lapis oak]

yes

we're not talking about weapon reforges since they still have tiers

[tired adder]

that's an autoreforge mod

[lapis oak]

accessory reforging is literally just vanilla RNG now

[tropic jolt]

that doesnt change the rng

[tired adder]

I guess that's true

[arctic cliff]

wait what

WHY

[fierce hearth]

Bc they wanted to encourage players to use the new varied system

[lapis oak]

because 2.1 make every accessory reforges worth using

[pulsar cobalt]

its actually worse than in vanilla since all the reforges are considered the best tier, and they all increase the rarity and therefore sell price and so it costs more on average

[lapis oak]

they're now at 1 single tier

[clear pine]

does this look timeless enough?

or does it need more shores

[lapis oak]

and then the simplify reforges option is removed because, there's no more tiers for acc reforges

[fierce hearth]

But ultimately we gamers optimize the fun out of things and realized menacing and warding are still top tier, and with invig and arcane as build specific alternatives

So it's still a bunch of bullshit + optimal choices

[lapis oak]

true actually

it's just a money sink but worse

I'm actually kinda suprised they didn't make accessory reforging less RNG

with the removal of simplify reforge

[clear pine]

not a huge fan of current reforge system i dont feel like it should be all that important to dump tons of money into it

[fierce hearth]

That was always its purpose

You come up with a better money sink for terraria

[clear pine]

just nerf the amount of coins dropped late game ig?

[fierce hearth]

Then early game becomes better farming, just kill BoC 30 times

[tropic jolt]

okay so add a new type of boulder and it slowly rolls up a hill, everytime it reaches the top you get 1 terradollar and you can pay platinum coins to buy skins and cosmetics for the boulder as well as a skill tree of upgrades to make progression faster.

[fierce hearth]

Not good enough

[lyric trellis]

Already happened in 2.1

[tropic jolt]

there will also be a boulderpass that rewards you as you progress but you have to buy the premium pass for 5000 platinum to get the good rewards

[fierce hearth]

Add randomly dropped crates that can buff your villagers with skimpy outfits and higher damage

[clear pine]

to make goblin tinkerer more insufferable give him the option to unlock a battle pass thats required to grind 1000 platinum to unlock weapons

[tired adder]

not if you make the boulder as badass as Burrito Bison

[fierce hearth]

Jesus Christ a Burrito Bison reference in 2026

[still cobalt]

Wait why does end game need a crazy money sink

[lapis oak]

it doesn't need

[clear pine]

ye why does a godkiller terrarian care abt capitalism

[lapis oak]

at some point money should becomes a no problems and it's definitely not endgame

late? sure but not something like post-Yharon I think that's just kinda unreasonable

[dusk bronze]

post moonlord imo

by then npcs don't sell anything good

except like

the bandit

[solar hare]

you dont even need bosses when you have zerg potions

you can use 1 zerg and make like 5 plat in 10 minutes

[steel pike]

“Hm… a fallen star… this might be useful later…”

[solar hare]

not to mention with bloody mary now or w/e it is

[dusk bronze]

well zerg potions are almost certainly dying eventually

[tropic jolt]

and much more if you stack even more spawnrate buffs

[clear pine]

it would feel weird if npcs just had post ml loot on them anyway

[steel pike]

“If you collect enough I juustt might have an upgrade waiting for you…”

[lapis oak]

acc reforges problem is more about the RNG and less about the money cost

[fierce hearth]

If you don't wanna pay for zergs every time a chaos+water candle setup during a Blood Moon makes an absolutely obscene amount of money

[solar hare]

are they now with the very recent addition of bloody mary

[pulsar cobalt]

guys i had an idea

[fierce hearth]

Yeah. Bandit made it p painless economically

It just took minutes instead of seconds to get my accessories respecced

[pulsar cobalt]

you know how nurse prices increase as the game progresses

[fierce hearth]

Which is Excessive

[pulsar cobalt]

what if goblin tinkerer also increased in price with game progression

[lapis oak]

yes I think Bloody Mary IS the reason Zerg can have a higher chance of dying

[fierce hearth]

Tsuki

Do you like having bones?

[dusk bronze]

it already does

[solar hare]

well yeah but that doesnt fix the issue lol

[dusk bronze]

better items cost more money to reforge

[still cobalt]

What if it decreased actually

[lapis oak]

what if Goblin just gives you shit for free

[fierce hearth]

Your power is so great you start extorting your citizens

[lapis oak]

because I gave him home

[clear pine]

ye the as ur weapons get increasingly more powerful goblin tinkerer get more scared u might kill him for scamming u and offers discount

[rare tinsel]

do you think there’ll be a zen equivalent to bloody mary

[tropic jolt]

🔥✍️

[clear pine]

poor guy tryna reforge something like ark of cosmos

[fierce hearth]

Look can I just be a world shattering amoral force of power instead of a greedy landlord

[lapis oak]

I honestly don't know

there was a discussion and it seems like they are not interested in killing Zen as much as Zerg

[rare tinsel]

I don’t think there would be a good way to make something like that fun to use

[fierce hearth]

Oh Bloody Mary is meant to be a replacement for zerg?

[rare tinsel]

Fun to use and having a sizeable downside

[clear pine]

do you guys think sandstone should still generate in small patches on the upper parts of the shores?

or should it just be dunesand

[severe coral]

I feel like, gameplay-wise, the screwdriver is the opposite of the BM

[cinder forum]

im gonna be real i think reforges are a fundamentally broken system that will continue to suck fat fuckin asscheeks unless it gets a from-scratch rework

[lapis oak]

Bloody Mary is like Zerg, but more fair. I don't think the sole reason it exists was to be replacing Zerg but it somewhat makes Zerg has less reason to exist now

[cinder forum]

which i dont expect to happen

[dusk bronze]

[tribal isle]

Why do we always have to rely on the fucking goblin to reforge

[fierce hearth]

because he's good at it

[cinder forum]

it sounds like a great idea on paper but it has really negative impacts on so much else of the game

[pulsar cobalt]

mm

[tribal isle]

Is it like forbidden knowledge and we can’t do it ourselves

[pulsar cobalt]

fun fact, theres a bunch of ambient tiles for sso in the github rn

[clear pine]

hes just got a really good hammer

[still cobalt]

I remember watching sorbet’s video on how reforges are flawed and i kinda agree woth the issue just being you only ever want one maybe 2 reforged and the rest is useless filler

[clear pine]

rlly?????????????????????

yummers

[dusk bronze]

yes exactly

[clear pine]

wait where even is that github thingy

[cinder forum]

weapons have to be balanced around the best reforge possible otherwise you could roll one legendary and make your weapon fucking broken

[grave geyser]

#info

[clear pine]

ty

[cinder forum]

but that means every player HAS to get those reforges

instead of rewarding players for being diligent you punish players for not doing fucking chores

[pulsar cobalt]

you can spawn em in with dragonlens tile spawner too but if you want the raw images theyre just in github

[grave geyser]

I mean weapon reforges are not the problem

accessory reforges are

andd those the player is not expected to have optimized

at least not outside of late game death mode

[strange cargo]

Optimizing reforges is for challenge runs

[cinder forum]

i disagree i think they are a major problem and we're all desensitized

[pulsar cobalt]

full hard is funny in early game

[dusk bronze]

both suck

[grave geyser]

weapon reforges are not an active problem

they are 6 button clicks and a minor money sink

[strange cargo]

I think weapon reforges have just one that’s best for nearly everything from one damage type, and that causes problems

[grave geyser]

cal has effectively removed them from the game past the very early game, they are not a good system but they do not actively harm the game

[strange cargo]

It gets stale reforging every summon to Ruthless

[tropic jolt]

well...

soon you get to reforge every summon to fabled! (or eager)

[pulsar cobalt]

yall can have this one word have fun

[strange cargo]

Im super excited for 1.4.5

[fathom girder]

barrier

[strange cargo]

Frost barrier

[cinder forum]

they're not an active problem because calamity has neutered them by making getting the best reforge trivial

[grave geyser]

yes

[cinder forum]

but its still a problem

[strange cargo]

From the ice claspers

[grave geyser]

that is litterally exactly what I am saying

[lapis oak]

leak?

generational leak?

[cinder forum]

and i still think weapon reforges are fundamentally unhealthy to the game

[pulsar cobalt]

im going to have dinner bye

[strange cargo]

They would be if there was any other way to enhance the weapon besides post scal

[cinder forum]

honestly i kind of like the rework to accessory reforges, my only complaint is how clunky getting them is

[grave geyser]

they effectively do not exist
cal does not need to try and fix a broken system when making it irrelevant works about as well for a fraction of the effort

[cinder forum]

i wouldn't mind seeing something similar with weapon reforges

[lyric trellis]

Holy shit is it the early hardmode accessory that was untouched by the flattening and is now totally meta?

[strange cargo]

Thats the problem though

Weapon reforges are fundamentally different

[pulsar cobalt]

no

[grave geyser]

its not even that good is the funny thing

the actual demon that went under the radar is stress pills

4 defense is crazy for that early

[strange cargo]

Just get lucky

[lapis oak]

just get lucky

[cinder forum]

im saying take the current weapon reforge system, throw it in the goddamned trash can, and replace it with something closer to accessories rn

[lapis oak]

or just make it irrelevant

for a miniscule effort

[cinder forum]

do you want 12% damage or 10% attack speed

[lapis oak]

and focus on something more important

[lyric trellis]

Make Frost Barrier sold by Traveling Merchant again

[cinder forum]

or 20% more pierce

[lapis oak]

we do not need to fix every vanilla problems

[grave geyser]

cooking

[grave geyser]

^

[strange cargo]

Just keep reforges as is for weapons

[tropic jolt]

would you rather have +1% damage or +2% damage

[still cobalt]

Me reforging to legendary, unreal, mythical, ruthless, and flawless for the 80th time

[grave geyser]

if someone has a good idea to fix a vanilla item, sure, go ahead

but it is not cals job to try and fix these systems

[lapis oak]

and tbh I really don't give a fuck about reforges having tiers, especially weapons

I just see it as a little RPG element that is in the game

[cinder forum]

make every weapon automatically spawn reforged to max level so i dont have to dump 50 plat per weapon in the super late game

[lapis oak]

and by making it irrelevant to get the best tiers

it's even more true

[strange cargo]

Sounds like a you problem, genuinely

[fathom girder]

adding more things to the tiers means I have to spend 2 minutes at the gobbin twinkler reforging to violent three times before I finally get to violent and actually stay on violent

[grave geyser]

litterally just play celebration mk 10

also its not 50 plat its like 5 at most

[fathom girder]

It gets crazy on accessories

[grave geyser]

accessories are different

[cinder forum]

its not in my experience

[fathom girder]

I spent 100 plat once just reforging one accessory because it WASN'T GIVING ME THE THING I NEEDED

[tribal isle]

I want all of that on one weapon reforge thanks

[strange cargo]

Me when I say to myself that I don’t want quick and then I proceed to get violent, arcane, and lucky for the next 20 reforges

[grave geyser]

the only reason weapons would be setting you back 50 platinum is if your goblin tinkerer hates you

[fathom girder]

and then you finally get quick and reforge over it

[cinder forum]

he does

he really fucking does

[still cobalt]

Lowk even before 2.1 accesories were crazy
Id be fishing for menacing and watch it cycle between the speed and stealth one

[distant raft]

i turned off remove reforge rng and got a broken fungicide four times in a row

[clear pine]

whoever was the person who showed where github is thank you so much

ive got grass now

[cinder forum]

it is on SIGHT with that fucking twink

[grave geyser]

fixable problem
underground with mechanic and maybe grab a discount card for good measure

this shit takes like 10 minutes and saves you immense amounts of money over a run

[tropic jolt]

pain

[distant raft]

i think farming for cash is a lot easier now that bloody mary exists

[strange cargo]

Wait yall don’t keep a greed ring on you and have the tinkerer underground already?

[lapis oak]

true it was a problem before, now has been up ten folds because the vanilla RNG is completely back

[distant raft]

well

new bloody mary

[cinder forum]

he's not going underground he gets a jail cell like everybody else

[distant raft]

refuses to make goblin happy
"why is it so expensive to reforge"

[grave geyser]

that is entirely on you

[dull heart]

Hi

[cinder forum]

i hate him and want him to explode

[pulsar cobalt]

hi doze

[grave geyser]

if you dont interact with the game mechanics you cannot be complaining when you get punished for it

[cinder forum]

i dont want him to be happy i want him to suffer

[tribal isle]

I make an underground box for the goblin and mechanic cuz I like pylons

[dull heart]

then he'll hate you and wanna make you broke

[tropic jolt]

go away doze 😡

[strange cargo]

Hi goatze

[distant raft]

putting him underground with dye trader and mechanic gets you max happiness iirc

[grave geyser]

then put him in a cave over lava with the worst house ever imagined

benefits you and also makes him not hate you in return

[tribal isle]

Who even likes dye trader

[cinder forum]

i do not want him to experience joy or mirth or happiness in any form

[pulsar cobalt]

money is tough in weaponless because even the early game bosses take a bajilion years to die (its like two minutes)

[still cobalt]

Weaponless when i hardmode slagsplitter

[grave geyser]

he is nothing but lines of computer code he experiences no joy no matter what you do

[cinder forum]

he will suffer as i have suffered

he will bleed as i have bled

he will burn as i have burnt

[dull heart]

simply win

[unique warren]

Yo noway I got my first scam message from this server epic

[cinder forum]

mery crimsas

[dull heart]

I should make rams deal true melee damage instead of melee

[lapis oak]

including Solar armor?

[pulsar cobalt]

true actually

[cinder forum]

rams are actually the only true melee damage everything else is fake

[unique warren]

Anyways my suggestion ain't gonna get jack shit is it

[grave geyser]

make him a house in a cave away from all civilization, put an automatic timer to send a dart trap into his house every now and again, long enough that he can regen the damage off, but short enough that he's never spending long periods of time at full health

he can suffer for eternity while also denying him the ability to screw you over

[tropic jolt]

correct!

[cinder forum]

what's your suggestion soldier

[unique warren]

Oh it was just a thing in #suggestions-voting but uh yeah

It's probably not all that unlikely that it will happen regardless lol

[cinder forum]

you do make a compelling argument

[unique warren]

Anyways uh I may try to do providence again

Who knows if I can do it considering lag

[cinder forum]

nah you were cooking i actually didnt even know that was a thing

[fathom girder]

little does he know, the bandit's more than happy to steal it all back for me

Got her nice and set up in the desert right next to an express trade route

[mystic eagle]

Them*

[fathom girder]

sorry

[mystic eagle]

Execution

[fathom girder]

they're more than happy to-

NO

:(

[fathom girder]

[unique warren]

Man I fucking suck at this

[dusk bronze]

they don't already??

[steel pike]

hi

[clear pine]

those flowers are so peak

[unique warren]

Shout out lag btw

Holy fuck providence sucks to fight

[late eagle]

I almost believed you >:(

[lapis oak]

thanks

[fathom girder]

I'M SORRY

[late eagle]

YuH can't leave calamity, if he leaves we should sacrifice Kiri to bring him back

[unique warren]

Ughhhh providence is unbearable I had no idea this boss was this bad

It's been so long that I forgot

[cinder forum]

the council has rejected your apology. your execution is in 3 days

[fathom girder]

FUCK

[late eagle]

Cal clone is much more bearable with an arena now, it's crazy the difference it causes in the bullet hell fases

It's still just a clone though :(

[unique warren]

Ok yeah I ain't doing providence sorry

[fathom girder]

the bullethell is fun with the box yea

[unique warren]

This is barely better than ML

[cinder forum]

providence isnt that bad

its just kinda a very aggressive bullet hell tutorial

which will become the majority of post ml bosses

[unique warren]

Its not really a bullet hell so much as it is random projectiles flying around

[cinder forum]

so prepare thyself now

[late eagle]

Pre 2.1 dog makes providence looking like a good fight actually

[unique warren]

Like, with scal there is rhyme and reason for the projectiles and they move predictably, which makes it a good bullet hell

[unique warren]

True, lol

[cinder forum]

randomly generated bullet hell

wrong reply

fuck discord

[unique warren]

But yeah, wow this boss sucks, I remember liking it but it is just really bad

[late eagle]

Pre 2.1 dog was like, the one boss that I absolutely hated it

There was some bosses that I didn't really like but not at the level of dog

[cinder forum]

only one? you're not a real calamity fan if you dont hate at least half the bosses

-# only half joking tbh

[late eagle]

I hate the devs instead >:)

[unique warren]

Yeah idk if smth happened since I’ve played but Providence is thoroughly a pain to fight

[cinder forum]

shoutout to ravager for beating the odds and somehow, despite all reason, managing to become even fucking worse

[unique warren]

True lol

[late eagle]

Nah it's not that horrible, what weapon are u using?

[cinder forum]

this fight is abysmal dogshit and needs to be reworked from scratch or straight up removed

[unique warren]

It’s not really a damage issue

I’m getting her down to half in about a minute

And I’m pretty sure 2 minutes is normal pace?

[late eagle]

I don't thinks it's worse, but it didn't really increase in my perception too much

[cinder forum]

it became dramatically more unfun and frustrating

ravager already sucked bc he screwed over your mobility in ways that were unintuitive and frustrating

now he literally shoves you around and walls you off

i dont care if the fight is easy every moment of it is deeply unpleasant

[late eagle]

Exalted oathblade obliterate ravager

It's pretty funny actually

[dull heart]

they're post provi

I think

[cinder forum]

and that makes it bad

[tropic jolt]

🐍

[cinder forum]

someone always argues with me when i say ravager is bad bc "hes super easy lmao" and i need you to understand that a fight does not need to be extremely difficult to be unfun

[late eagle]

Ravager will become good tho... One day... As always...

[cinder forum]

the inverse is true also, just bc a fight is hard doesn't mean its fun or well made

[dull heart]

ravager is going to be the biggest glow up of all time

[rose laurel]

I would argue that'd be Signus.

[dull heart]

no

signus is not a boss

Ravager is an actively bad boss

[rose laurel]

Exactly.

[cinder forum]

that's what everyone told me about DoG and i still think that fight is actively unfun so

[tropic jolt]

2.2 is the scavenger update

[cinder forum]

my hopes are not high

[late eagle]

Not saying it's fun, I'm just saying the fight means nothing to me

[dull heart]

like signus fight is actually not that bad if any of the attacks actually did anything

[late eagle]

It's just mid

[grave geyser]

the thingamajig
did I miss any important ones

[dull heart]

Diamond of the Deep is super super strong rn

[cinder forum]

the thing is ravager isnt hard but he takes FOREVER to kill

[grave geyser]

I am aware but I'm not exactly sure how strong

[dull heart]

Dominant or Dominant Niche I'd say

[cinder forum]

its so tedious

[grave geyser]

schmoov is the only one I've seen using it and they used it pre golem

[late eagle]

[dull heart]

sponge fall off

Am I crazy or is evasion scarf missing

[grave geyser]

its not even that its bad its just that you're so insanely stacked for accessories at this tier

[grave geyser]

oh yeah it is

[unique warren]

I should probably do a cal playthrough, huh? Like, I had no clue Providence was such a pain in the ass, I need a refresher

[dull heart]

Idk where it goes after the rebalance

[grave geyser]

would've gone in idk though because I havent messed with it at all

[dull heart]

yea

[grave geyser]

on paper its fine but also deep diver is right there man just go use that

[fathom girder]

0 to 10 is less than -4 to 10

methinks

[pulsar cobalt]

where amidias pendant

[pulsar cobalt]

(idk how strong it is outside of weaponless)

[dull heart]

sea spirit still goes in strong after the nerf??

[pulsar cobalt]

oh

[unique warren]

Ngl I'm betting that more bosses are REALLY fucking annoying

[fathom girder]

sea spirit amulet is nice

[green orbit]

Question friendos, do we know when calamity will be updated to have the most current terrara updated part of it?

[fathom girder]

it's just there and free damage

[grave geyser]

the way you were describing the nerfs makes me think its still probably very strong

[unique warren]

Half a year at earliest

[fathom girder]

not till the tmod 1.4.5 port, which will be a few months away

[grave geyser]

pendant is also probably higher in theory but actually making pendant work sucks ass so

[dull heart]

I think I nerfed it too hard probably

The need to spawn time was way more intense than I thought

[green orbit]

Big sad, but also understandable big work to do.

[late eagle]

I really thought they would turn calamity in something more than just a cursor damage but sadly it's still the same thing

[lyric trellis]

Pendant in bottom tier because it should be removed already

[grave geyser]

true?

[late eagle]

Pretty boring for the accessory with the mods name

[fathom girder]

Calamity is pretty good tbh

it's an active minigame of an accessory now at least

[dull heart]

Pendant more like peakdant

[fathom girder]

now if calamity worked with POINTER properly then

well

it'd be the best accessory in the game

[late eagle]

🙄

Meh

[lyric trellis]

Pointer for SS tier

[late eagle]

Well we can't have everything I guess

[cinder forum]

what's the criteria here

[grave geyser]

oh yeah the pointer
its like
misc
because its niche is saving you real life money

[grave geyser]

vaguely strength

[green orbit]

On another note im doing my first true melee run and its a tough one. But im liking the update to true melee so far.

[pulsar cobalt]

its niche is not missing with hitscan weapons

[fathom girder]

until it does

because the autoaim function doesn't actually work properly

the cursor lags behind targets

[strange cargo]

Nucleogenesis snubbed

[grave geyser]

was genesis changed like, at all

it got like a tiny debuff nerf and thats it I think

[lyric trellis]

What the hell happened with Rover Drive btw

[strange cargo]

ohh it was for changes

duh

[dull heart]

No more defense dmg

[grave geyser]

defense damage immunity

[cinder forum]

elemental quiver isnt on here but that doesnt matter bc its abysmal dogshit

why is deadshot brooch so high

[lyric trellis]

Why the hell does it do that

[dull heart]

it's strong

[grave geyser]

because its basically a mini recon scope that you get earlier

[fathom girder]

no more bloodflare core synergy :(

[lyric trellis]

Also you can use it with Hyperius and probably get a bunch of broken shit

[cinder forum]

its a stat stick, and moreover its a worse star stick than alternatives

[distant raft]

calamity in idk tier :hms:

[grave geyser]

how is it worse than the alternatives

its competing with fucking ranger emblem

[cinder forum]

deadshot brooch is a good slot filler in the very small niche of post plantera but pre golem

[fathom girder]

elemental quiver is funny but unfortunately godslayer slugs are the only ammo you want

[late eagle]

Wasn't Lucrecia a short sword?

[grave geyser]

and even into post golem its still just a better destroyer emblem so like

[dull heart]

no it's not

[still cobalt]

whhys the uhh aureus boots so broken

[grave geyser]

contact damage immunity

[dull heart]

Its on par with recon scope + gives ammo swap

[fathom girder]

ammo swap is kinda odd tbh

[still cobalt]

oh thats crazy

[dull heart]

And ammo res

[fathom girder]

is there a case where swapping off of godslayer slugs is ideal

[lyric trellis]

Is it better than eye of golem though…

[dull heart]

Yes

Hyperius Bullet

[lapis oak]

why the hell Rover Drive gives defense damage immunity

does Sponge have that

[dull heart]

If you take a hit while a barrier is up you don't take defense damage

[cinder forum]

i forgot amalgamated brain got its damage removed

[dull heart]

And rover drive can be repaired by wulfrum drones

[fathom girder]

hyperius bullets are that good? damn

[grave geyser]

if you have any amount of any kind of barrier you take no defense damage

sponge technically has it but sponge has the long-ass cooldown

[lyric trellis]

Hyperius is maybe a sleeper agent but also nobody has used it much I think

[fathom girder]

yeah I slept on it

heavily

[dull heart]

so you can have drones constantly repairing 1hp of the barrier

So no hit ever does def dmg

[cinder forum]

deadshot brooch is mediocre until golem then its outright worse than crit emblem or sniper scope

[grave geyser]

its not worse than emblem though

[cinder forum]

it doesn't belong in strong imho

[lapis oak]

it should be mentioned in the tooltips they give defense damage immunity while the shield is active

[grave geyser]

its litterally better destroyer emblem

lol

[cinder forum]

i might be getting the numbers wrong nvm

ok fine congratulations its mid instead of dogshit

[dull heart]

It isn't worse, ammo res + ammo swap

It's also flat out stronger than destroyer emblem, but 1% weaker than recon

[still cobalt]

hey guys do we have a way of finding new hive or is it just wander around jungle

[lyric trellis]

Seems fair enough

[dull heart]

It's not mid either what

It's literally entirely on par with the other best dmg accessories of its tier

[shell sapphire]

Is there any ammo that does a strong cold debuff????

[fathom girder]

Regenator has potential if you use regen accessories to act as damage boosters, you can also use half-health synergy accessories and armors

It falls off into late post ML but it turns you into a weird glass cannon

I'd put it in dominant niche maybe?

[tribal isle]

Is yharim’s gift ever gonna be good 😔

[dull heart]

Halley's Inferno starbursts technically

[fathom girder]

cuz it IS stupid if you do it right

[grave geyser]

yes

[still cobalt]

anarachy blade and regenerator yo!

[pulsar cobalt]

hailstorm does frostbite ig

[cinder forum]

ammo res is a nothingburger stat and ammo swap should be inherent to the class and not tied to a random accessory

[lapis oak]

I'm asking again is this mechanic mentioned anywhere

[dull heart]

Just because you think it should be doesn't mean it isn't & the accessory makes it possible so like

That's irrelevant for ranking it's strength

[lapis oak]

if no then it should be mentioned in Rover Drive and such tooltips

[grave geyser]

no because it isnt a mechanic its a bug

[lapis oak]

LOL

you can just say it from the start you know

[dull heart]

it's been a bug for probably a long time

stratus Sphere is also insane from this

[lapis oak]

made me worried for nothing

[dull heart]

free defense dmg immunity if you use sirius

[fathom girder]

starburst into no defense damage system

[grave geyser]

I did

[fathom girder]

did crit block me for my shit takes

I'm sad

[still cobalt]

stratus sphere is cool

[fathom girder]

I wanted to debate the regenator

[pulsar cobalt]

hilarious

[cinder forum]

the item description in game doesn't mention the auric rebuke thing

[lapis oak]

nah ✋

[dull heart]

This isn't out yet

[cinder forum]

oh

[distant raft]

i love Item

[tribal isle]

Damn the unupdated wiki

[dull heart]

Tooltip will look like this once it is

[dull heart]

it's not out yet

[fathom girder]

I'm excited for Yift rework

it's gonna be so swag

[cinder forum]

wait since when did yharim's gift give defense and knockback

speed

[dull heart]

defense always

[cinder forum]

fuck

[distant raft]

since always

[cinder forum]

where did knockback come from

[dull heart]

Knockback res is 2.1

[dusk bronze]

i noticed mantis claw tooltip doesn't state it inflicts heavy bleeding or whatever it was
laceration? one of them

[lyric trellis]

Since the dawn of the universe

[distant raft]

however its never been enough to actually be worth using iirc

[cinder forum]

and speed?

[dull heart]

As long as I've played calamity

[distant raft]

like hasnt yharims gift just sucked its entire existence

[dull heart]

No

[fathom girder]

technically it doesn't suck

[dull heart]

Really early on it gave 30% defense lol

[fathom girder]

it's just easy to ignore

[distant raft]

30%????????

[hard copper]

Sounds nice for exos, because weak to electric

[dull heart]

For a while it gave a flat 40 defense

[cinder forum]

im gonna be real i dont think ive ever looked at or used yift for more than 5 seconds

[dull heart]

And 15% dmg

[fathom girder]

it's OP against exos yea

Doze was talking about that earlier lol

[lapis oak]

many items are missing debuff clarifications

I think it should be a known issue

[dull heart]

Yift Amalgam will absolutely explode exos

[dusk bronze]

but like
doesn't mention it anywhere at all

[pulsar cobalt]

cant wait for the powerscalers to think theyre are outversal because of this accessory...

[cinder forum]

why is the amalgam in absurd tier its just another generic dodge accessory

[dull heart]

My favorite part of the yift buff is

[fathom girder]

you are WRONG

[dusk bronze]

does he know

[fathom girder]

amalgam is not that

[dull heart]

It does so so so much damage

[rose laurel]

"Yift" is an unfortunate abbreviation.

[lapis oak]

fall in the same category of these specific tooltips should be made better

[pulsar cobalt]

dont call it that

[fathom girder]

check what it does now

[dull heart]

is it?

[lapis oak]

which I think many need

[fathom girder]

Okay would you rather call it YAFT

[cinder forum]

man i love the new buff the devs gave to yiff

[fathom girder]

We can call it Yaft

Raise your hand if you wanna call it the Yaft

[dusk bronze]

yharift

[cinder forum]

i didnt know the devs liked yiff so much

[lean cave]

[dull heart]

call it luxors sr

[lapis oak]

no way Yift is an actual word

[cinder forum]

the raindrops do 200 damage a hit who fucking cares

[lapis oak]

don't say it to me

[fathom girder]

no no

it does more than that Scrumpy

[dull heart]

It's not the raindrops it's the debuffs

[fathom girder]

look it up on the wiki

[cinder forum]

get yifted idiot

[fathom girder]

it does SO much now

[dusk bronze]

no it just sounds like a different one

[dull heart]

The debuffs do a LOT of damage

[cinder forum]

what debuffs does it inflict

[dull heart]

Even on non debuff weapons it shaves like 30 seconds

[tribal isle]

I don’t remember the last time I didn’t use amalgam

[dull heart]

Plague, Daybroken, Nightwither, Vermillion Flux, Crush Depth

Also makes all debuffs do +200% dmg

[lapis oak]

do you actually think it's strong because of the rain

[dull heart]

It's like an extra 2000 dps

it's so much

[fathom girder]

Plague also spreads when enemies die with it procced

[still cobalt]

i forgot it inflicts its own debuffs

[fathom girder]

which is funny

[pulsar cobalt]

not all

[cinder forum]

how much damage is that because i feel like debuffs usually dont do fuckin anything post ml

[pulsar cobalt]

only elemental ones

[fathom girder]

WHEW BOY are you out of date

Debuffs are a huge part of builds now

at least you can invest heavy into them now

[cinder forum]

i have no idea why people think its strong that's why im asking rn

[shell sapphire]

Ummm, forgot about Halley’s and hailstorm bullets…. Oh and icicle arrows.
It would be cool if there was post ml ammunition that did a stronger cold debuff. I kinda want to do a crit and cold debuff range play style.

[dull heart]

on yharon it's 1800 dps (not counting any other debuffs it boosts)

Roughly

[cinder forum]

that's like... 20ish% more dps on average?

[dull heart]

it's the best offensive accessory available and also gives a dodge

[fathom girder]

How much does voidfrost do now

[tribal isle]

I always used amalgam just for the dodge

[cinder forum]

pretty good actually

[fathom girder]

yeah it's meta defining

like once you start actually investing into debuffs on top of amalgam, it gets crazy

[cinder forum]

that seems a little ridiculous

[fathom girder]

it is wild indeed

[still cobalt]

dodges are rleady worth their own accessory slot so one that adds 2k dps is insane

[fathom girder]

it'll be even more crazy once the Yaft gets that rework

[cinder forum]

no i mean your claim is ridiculous sounding

[fathom girder]

because auric rebuke does a lot of damage

[dusk bronze]

it was +300% debuff damage on release btw

[tribal isle]

Giftrot

[grave geyser]

lets rephrase
rebuke + amalgam already destroys exos and will do so even harder after the amalgam change

[fathom girder]

It's legit

[lapis oak]

it's just kinda weird how you already started shitting on it without even know what it currently does

[dull heart]

Yes

[rose laurel]

I will ask you thus

What accessory gives a 20% damage on their own?

[dull heart]

Can't wait for the YMCA rework

[cinder forum]

because late game debuffs are generally dogass

[grave geyser]

how long does gift even inflict rebuke for

[dull heart]

They're not

[lapis oak]

LOL

[fathom girder]

But that's OUTDATED it's just a 2.1 thing

[solar hare]

who is garyon what

[fathom girder]

Debuffs are real good

[dull heart]

2 seconds on every hit

[solar hare]

new dev

[rose laurel]

Have you never seen me?

[still cobalt]

what does rebuke even do is it just damage or

[fathom girder]

oooh you're a writer

[tribal isle]

Why do enemies even get damaged upon contact with our auric set

[fathom girder]

that's cool

[rose laurel]

...

[strange cargo]

3 devs in one chat

its so over

[cinder forum]

oh wow i can get an extra 120 fire damage a second on my 10k dps weapon my cup truly runneth the fuck over

[fathom girder]

Electric debuff, 50 to 400 damage per second(?)

[solar hare]

oh Laura account alright

[cinder forum]

like yeah if you stacked 6+ debuffs, all at once, and TRIPLED their dps

you can get a decent bit of damage

congratulations

[grave geyser]

ok seems about right

surely this will cause no problems :)

[dull heart]

:)

[rose laurel]

Yes.

[clear pine]

roughly how wet would the timeless shores be?

[dull heart]

Somewhere from 0-100%

[clear pine]

like half sunken or like 20% sunken

[dull heart]

100/400 dps electric debuff

[cinder forum]

what does godslayer flame do like 100 dps

150?

[dull heart]

400 if they're moving

[grave geyser]

250

[dull heart]

250

[cinder forum]

ok

[clear pine]

well ima keep it like 20% bc the pink water being everywhere would be strange

[cinder forum]

so that's 750 tops

against a 10k dps average

[dull heart]

Except for the fact yharon resists fire so

Halve it

[clear pine]

isnt there a exo debuff? surely that does more than godslayer

[cinder forum]

you're not really disproving my case here

[dull heart]

Debuffs are very good when you play against the weakness of the boss

[rose laurel]

Sulphuric Poisoning.

[dull heart]

If you use a fire debuff on a fire resistant boss it doesn't do much

[dusk bronze]

does that mean stratus is viable for yharon

[cinder forum]

this is absolutely true for at least 2/3 of the game

[dull heart]

Sulphur Poisoning is laughably weak for its tier rn

120 dps when it should have 175 for its tier

Maybe 200

[rose laurel]

Damn.

[dull heart]

Holy Fire is 150 lol

[grave geyser]

auric rebuke is 400 dps, against exos thats doubled to 800, it can be applied to multiple targets

hitting all 5 ares segments and both exo twins gets you an additional 3600 dps and thats before amalgam

[lapis oak]

yes? I think it's intentionally made to be viable for Yharon

[dusk bronze]

nice

[dull heart]

Yes

[rare tinsel]

was that buffed

[cinder forum]

what are you ever going to use godslayer burn on besides yharon

[grave geyser]

yes

it used to be 100

[dull heart]

exos or scal (she resists fire too)

[lapis oak]

yes I think Holy Fire is like the best flask right now

[grave geyser]

gsi really needs to be like
something other than fire

[dull heart]

Yeah

[cinder forum]

i never said rebuke was bad it gets a pass

[rose laurel]

It shall.

[rare tinsel]

no holy flames is the worst flask 👎

[dull heart]

GSI needs to be

[rare tinsel]

i’m never usingit

[lapis oak]

never been more true

[dull heart]

Honestly rn most electric debuffs are really really good

Vermillion Flux is a 200 dps debuff post folly lol

[dusk bronze]

make gsi like
acid (poison)

[cinder forum]

what are you gonna pull out fucking cleansing blaze to get that STAGGERING 250 dps of fire damae on exos

[grave geyser]

electrified is good in a vacuum and then nothing inflicts it

[dusk bronze]

distortion acid

[dull heart]

God Slayer Slugs

Vanquisher Arrows

Auric armor God Slayer darts

[cinder forum]

ignoring the fact that you're losing more than that amount of damage swapping

[cinder forum]

wait do they actually

[dull heart]

Also cleansing blaze is very good on exos actually

[pulsar cobalt]

i like it when debuffs are limited in appearance because then it means theyre allowed to be strong instead of a flavour thing theyre put on every weapon ever

[dull heart]

On ares and thanatos

[lapis oak]

it will dismember Yharon and Scal alive along with Sulphuric Poisoning

[pulsar cobalt]

cough cough holy flames cough cough

[dull heart]

This is why Voidfrost is the best debuff

And also why Auric Rebuke is nice

[cinder forum]

counterpoint: scorched earth + grape beer

[dull heart]

Voidfrost is a little worse than it should be though

Buffing from 200 to either 250 or 300 I forgot

[pulsar cobalt]

300

[grave geyser]

the problem is that like making gsi litterally anything else has problems

sickness and cold means messing with sulph poison and voidfrost
electricity is just going to get hard outclassed by rebuke 1 boss later (which is not too different from what dfire is but shh)
and then water is water

[lapis oak]

typeless

[dull heart]

Typeless is the way yeah

[dusk bronze]

sulphuric poisoning could also die

[dull heart]

no

[still cobalt]

no lets keep peak debuffs

[lapis oak]

Vodka needs more support

[dull heart]

sulphur Poison is meant to do a similar thing to voidfrost

where it makes OD weapons stronger on yharon

[dusk bronze]

ic

[shell sapphire]

Me want godslayer inferno flask

[cinder forum]

scorched earth with grape beer is a fucking broken combo that consistently beats out auric and exo tier weapons in performance

[grave geyser]

I still dont like this approach bc it relies so heavily on amalgam

what is the point of wanting them to be viable off-tier if its going to require an on-tier item to make it work

[cinder forum]

genuinely nothing below shadowspec tier could challenge it when i played

[fathom girder]

Because you need an enabler

[dull heart]

I want Vermillion Flux flask except for the fact that messes with Gilded Prob

[fathom girder]

if the weapons were good on their own off-tier they'd be OP on tier

and so on so forth

[dull heart]

well

Honestly amalgam boost is probably too much still

[shell sapphire]

That would be heat

[dull heart]

but I don't wanna deal that until more general debuff changes managed

[grave geyser]

if only the on-tier boss was known for being very resiliant to debuffs
oh wait

[lapis oak]

Laceration Flask

[cinder forum]

the only other weapons i used after getting scorched earth were tyranny's end for MARGINALLY better single target damage and ace's high for lifesteal

i still think grape beer needs a nerf

[dull heart]

it just got one today

in dev

[cinder forum]

its braindead broken with daawnlight and still insane with a lot of other weapons

[dull heart]

Hopefully it wasn't over nerfed

[cinder forum]

how bad was it

[dull heart]

It's to the point I am worried it might compromise what makes the alcohol fun and interesting

But I haven't had time to try it

[main falcon]

is the nerf removing the ability to deal crits outrigth

[dull heart]

That wouldn't change what makes it fun and interesting

[lapis oak]

did you touch its homing capability?

[cinder forum]

it is absolutely fun and interesting but unfortunately ranger weapons are NOT designed around it and it shows sometimes

[dull heart]

I didn't do anything to it

[cinder forum]

the fact that subprojectiles ALSO get homing is ridiculous

[dusk bronze]

can you just say what changed

[dull heart]

you'll find out

[dusk bronze]

[lapis oak]

?

[cinder forum]

remove that and it'd probably be fine that cuts out 80% of the broken shit

also make daawnlight instantly kill you if you have grape beer on

[main falcon]

sub proyectile removal

[cinder forum]

just

[dusk bronze]

[cinder forum]

smited from the heavens

no cheese for you

perish

[main falcon]

how hard is grape beer to get

[cinder forum]

jokes aside i have zero fucking clue how you make grape beer+daawnlight not just absurdly overpowered

[dusk bronze]

just farm derplings for like 10 minutes

[cinder forum]

not very

available at the start of hardmode

[rare tinsel]

literally just grapes

[cinder forum]

wait you're telling me grape beer is made from grapes???

wtf

[lapis oak]

at least harder to get than fruit trees

[rare tinsel]

yeah it’s made from grapes

[steel pike]

Not just any grapes though

Edible grapes

[dull schooner]

a

theres non edible grapes? o-o

[rare tinsel]

astrum aureus

astrageldon

[vivid hemlock]

horrible pigron

[main falcon]

I wish I could

Grind down bones into a flour

For bone bread

[stable dove]

lung cancer debuff from inhaling bone dust while you grind it

[soft plover]

You then grind the lung cancer for cancer bread

[fathom girder]

then you grind the lungs for lung bread

[main falcon]

Exactly

[fathom girder]

yeah it's tech

[main estuary]

write this down ccr dev team

[kindred night]

did calamitas get easier

did they update it

[distant raft]

harder i'd say due to the arena changes

[kindred night]

maybe ive gotten better then idk

[main estuary]

which calamitas?

because scal is kinda the same for me

if not easier because i beat her in 1-2 attempts

[frail tapir]

Cal clone

Cuz they add a wall similar to real calamitas in cal clone

For revengece and death mode

[main estuary]

calclone is definitely harder imo

[distant raft]

oh i was speaking of scal

[frail tapir]

I don't see anything wrong about it tho lmao

[kindred night]

oh right alcohol changes happened thats why my dashes feel weird

wait... this isnt addon talk..

[frail tapir]

Bro how did you chat in the wrong channel without even realizing it ;-;

[severe coral]

happens

[fathom girder]

happens more than you'd think

[frail tapir]

[dull heart]

hi

i come bearing news

[deft lily]

hm

[dull heart]

amalgam is dead

[molten grove]

im alive

[dull heart]

"dead"

[deft lily]

what...

[deep bough]

💔

[deft lily]

no, dude...

😔

[main estuary]

why would you kill it

[dusk bronze]

why would carnymassacre kill it

[main estuary]

this is unforgivable
you released a crypto scam bot doing so

[deft lily]

uninstalling calamity

😠

[dull heart]

1800 to like

1028

dps

[dusk bronze]

damn

[dull heart]

(from the debuffs it inflicts on its own)

but 200% -> 300% boost again

[polar tide]

meowww

[dull heart]

also

actually nvm addon talk

[still bluff]

amglamed

[lapis oak]

good

now the heavy task is on item switching instead of Amalgam alone

[polar tide]

stream mimic by dm dokuro

[deft lily]

[hasty tangle]

i thought edwin made that

[polar tide]

shuthe fucjopup

[severe coral]

true hatred 🥀

[tropic jolt]

edwin dm'ed dokuro to make the mimic

[fathom girder]

so now it's just better with yift

[severe coral]

It was difficult to put the piece together 🥀

[fathom girder]

did you just lower the tiers of the debuffs amalgam applies

[strong isle]

I come bearing news

[severe coral]

!

[dusk bronze]

wgat

[fathom girder]

what kinda news

[deft lily]

whar

[deep bough]

oh no

[fathom girder]

new structures???

[strong isle]

send $720 so I can get EoW plush came earlier bearing news

That is all

[deft lily]

explode

[dusk bronze]

[still cobalt]

This means yoy removed some of its debuffs or you nerfed the debuffs itself

[fathom girder]

I agree with this

[strong isle]

I support it

[severe coral]

Blows up EoW plush with mind

[still cobalt]

Sadly i dont have $720

[tropic jolt]

what if 72 calamity fans send $10

[severe coral]

What if half a calamity fan sent $1440

[fathom girder]

that's what the um

that's what the uuuhhhhhhhhhhhh

the patreon

[deep bough]

what if the world sends me $1

[fathom girder]

that's what the patreon

[severe coral]

He can't he's just a stand

[tropic jolt]

never assume in life, dont think that carrot big leaf mean carrot big leaf big size

[severe coral]

brokie

[frail tapir]

[pulsar cobalt]

what if 72000 people sent stip one penny each each

[deep bough]

better understanding of the english language than people on reddit

[hasty tangle]

just get 0 people to send you infinity dollars

[strong isle]

I dunno what would happen
Why don't we try it out guys

[dusk bronze]

[tropic jolt]

calmity needs to start taxing its players

[frail tapir]

Paypal me 30k

[severe coral]

What if I rob stip for $720 and he gotta wait twice as long

[tropic jolt]

taxing its fans? lets call it the fanum tax

[hasty hawk]

Paypal Stip $720 for his EoW plush

[fathom girder]

the patreon LITERALLY exists already

[strong isle]

You'd be dead before you lifted a finger

[frail tapir]

There ain't no food here

[still bluff]

what if umbara donated another $2k to give stip an EoW plush

[tropic jolt]

EoW plushies for all!

speaking of plushies... draeplush arrival is imminent

[frail tapir]

[gleaming light]

ur pfp is giving me 5 defense

[hasty hawk]

Cal devs arent paid tho (unless they're involved in making the merch)

[polar tide]

we are lol

[fathom girder]

but they are

[hasty hawk]

Ah its now public info then

[tropic jolt]

the evil ozzatron uses all the money to buy more copies of control

[polar tide]

i swear you didnt leave THAT long ago

[hasty hawk]

thats good to hear

[fathom girder]

it's been public info like a month after ozz made the new one I think?

something like that

[still bluff]

it's been open that patreon money is for paying devs instaed of just for fabsol's pocket basically from when it was properly set up lol

[hasty hawk]

I never got paid for my work in Cal and its likely more devs arent receiving money either

I hope they get paid soon

[polar tide]

what

[still cobalt]

It actually just wouldnt make sense to have a patreon and NOT pay the devs

[polar tide]

we literally are

[fathom girder]

You should put money into the patreon so you can pay the devs shade

[hasty hawk]

Maybe once I have a job

[fathom girder]

Carny doesn't it suck that you aren't getting paid

carny you should get paid

[stone zephyr]

carny send cat gif plz

[still cobalt]

No i think all the money should be put towards the EoW plush tbh

[hasty hawk]

Only by doing the "bounty work" afaik unless that changed after I left

[tropic jolt]

did you say crab gif?

[strong isle]

Unironically though, with $720 the last thing I'd get would be an EoW plush
I'd buy a Giyu Tomioka nichirin katana and possibly a Glaceon plush

[strong isle]

Indeed

[stone zephyr]

it works i suppose . ..

[polar tide]

that is money. that is money that we are paid. am i not understanding something here

[strong isle]

I'm saving that

[hasty hawk]

so it got changed?

[hasty hawk]

true

[strong isle]

No, it's still bounties

[hasty hawk]

Makes sense

[deft lily]

stip ill send u 7200 in 5

[rose laurel]

It's bounty work, as that's the only real way of paying Devs. Monthly wages would be unsustainable and, frankly, puny. Not only that, I am fairly sure that due to US work laws, that's impossible.

[polar tide]

i would really appreciate if you as a former dev did not go around speculating that the devs aren't being paid for our work because we absolutely are. i was literally paid for work that i did on the brainstorm splash art BEFORE i was a dev

[hasty hawk]

I had some issues with the bounty system (mostly due to people hoarding em and it just being art and programming), but as it is it makes perfect sense as to how it is especially given US work law

[deft lily]

💰 here take this

:D

[strong isle]

It's been a lot broader now that we're working more stably on an update

[hasty hawk]

Glad to hear

[polar tide]

IN MY BELLY NOW NOMNOMNOMNONMNOMNOMNONMONM

[strong isle]

For example, there's quite a handful of writing bounties

[deft lily]

plot twist: it was a napalm bomb

[rose laurel]

Bounty work is quite simply related to development critical tasks. Sadly, during your stay, we hadn't gotten to testing, which would have been bountied once that became the next step.

[stone zephyr]

has it gotten better with, i believe was mentioned at one point, there was like a project director or something?

[dusk bronze]

it's impossible without you legally being employees
which means taxes and shit

[craggy wagon]

writing bounty you say 👀

[strong isle]

Yeah

[still bluff]

and ozz would have to give us health insurance

[strong isle]

It may sound easy but uh

[deft lily]

401k!!!!!!!!!!!

[stone zephyr]

health insurance is freaked up

[polar tide]

shreak voice: they don't even have dental

SHREAK?

I MEANT SHREK

[hasty hawk]

Makes sense, imo whomever has my former spot as the main bug forum manager should be getting paid

[pulsar cobalt]

shreak

[still bluff]

funniest reason even if it's not the biggest so it's the one i always cite

[strong isle]

It's far from it

[hasty hawk]

its so grueling to do

[deft lily]

dude why are you talking with a shreak voice...

[strong isle]

Mostly because of worldbuilding

[deft lily]

😨

[still bluff]

SHREAK VOICE'

[boreal pewter]

I love my dental care insurance from Azafure LLC

[craggy wagon]

cracking knuckles i love building

[hasty hawk]

I wouldnt fucking do it again or anything similar in any circustance unless I got paid

dealing with people is exhausting

[polar tide]

Getting my shreak on

[pulsar cobalt]

i love how azafure llc has only one employee i find it so funny

[dusk bronze]

it's truly peak

[stone zephyr]

medical insurance

[boreal pewter]

And it’s BRANDON WILLIAM HELL, yahoo-

[halcyon seal]

HOPPIN JACK BESTIARY REWRITE

“This is a slime but he ate Pumpkin (block).”

Venmo me $30000

[vivid hemlock]

the horrible fishron

[polar tide]

hired

[fathom girder]

Ozz mentioned that it being actual pay meant he'd also have to do insurance and business taxes and stuff lol

just a funny thing to think about

[still bluff]

no ozzsurance

[vivid hemlock]

ozzatron becomes a welfare state

[still bluff]

only ozzabucks

[pulsar cobalt]

OL{LFV:SPJM@ADESBGMHNV ?SAM

OZZSURANCE

[hasty hawk]

OZZSURANCE

[fathom girder]

Ozzsurance...

[pulsar cobalt]

ozzcoin

[fathom girder]

est. 2025

[tropic jolt]

ozzcoin is the next big thing

[still bluff]

the ozzatron republic

[polar tide]

got into a wreck and broke my ribs and punctured one of my lungs and now im fucked because the hospital wont take "ozzsurance"

[still bluff]

LMAO

[misty wren]

we are the ozzlings feed us ozzfood

[craggy wagon]

i still cant tell if ozzatron's pfp is anakin skywalker or not

[still bluff]

it's not

[misty wren]

its not

[still bluff]

go play control

[craggy wagon]

i've thought it was for months

[misty wren]

its jesse faden from control i think thats the name

[hasty hawk]

Wait you did the banner?, that is very cool!. Also yea my apologies I was uninformed and thought this was not public info