#calamity-update-talk

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dull heart
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I've got u

polar tide
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i dony wanna talk about fabsol go back to talking about fat lizard scoog

tropic jolt
pulsar cobalt
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fuck i cant find the image

dull heart
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I can't wait for scourge to release so I can show bendy scourge video

twin juniper
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Calamity fabful

fathom girder
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oh wait

high scaffold
fathom girder
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lizard scourge MUST be coming in the next update, if you think about it

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why else would the devs be talking about it so openly y'know...

tired adder
latent mesa
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i am aggree

polar tide
dull heart
fathom girder
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oh

polar tide
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LOL

fathom girder
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well

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okay then lmao

tropic jolt
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where!

fathom girder
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art server maybe

pulsar cobalt
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teslas amulet powercreeps ugc fun fact btw

fathom girder
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or in any of these other chats that I never peruse

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because CuT is my home

vivid hemlock
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he talked abt it in cut

dull heart
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there's been lizard scourge sprite stuff here for ages

pulsar cobalt
deft lily
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cal main slander try to be accurate challenge (impossible)

fathom girder
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we had like. a bit of his tail and some gore

dull heart
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Yharims gift powercreeps everything

lyric trellis
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Scourge tomorrow

pulsar cobalt
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and also inflicts static discharge so i dont have to bother with the damn fishing rod anymore

dull heart
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like no joke yift alone on ares will do 50% of the DPS of dragon pow on ares

lyric trellis
fathom girder
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that's amazing

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Yharim's gift PEAK

lapis oak
polar tide
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did yuo guys know lizard scoog is (i think) inspired by a real life animal called a sandfish that legit "swims" through sand

lapis oak
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Never would've thought

tropic jolt
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why would Yharim give us a gift unless he was actually a really nice guy

dull heart
fathom girder
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we ripped yharim's gift out of yharon's bloodied corpse

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I don't think that was meant for us chief

lyric trellis
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Sandfish, yet another fish for the fish mines 🙄

deft lily
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Sso 🙄

pulsar cobalt
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when are shrine items meant to be balanced around anyway

lapis oak
deft lily
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who cares abt sso

dull heart
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Oh also

deft lily
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only those foolish to do so!

dull heart
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Yift meteors on dearh

polar tide
tropic jolt
dull heart
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Will do 5,625 dps before dmg boosts

vivid hemlock
fathom girder
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ooo

lyric trellis
dusk bronze
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true

dull heart
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While amalgam + water gun makes the auric rebuke do

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4k dps per target on exos

fathom girder
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and here I was thinking voidfrost was gonna be the strongest debuff

polar tide
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are u looking to get this out in the next hotfix doze

dull heart
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Auric Rebuke is 400 dps when target is moving

dusk bronze
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leg

tropic jolt
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the creature

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update 2.2 will be a creature feature featuring the creature

lyric trellis
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Preacher

polar tide
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calamity 2.2 (creature feature update) will feature the creature

pulsar cobalt
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i just had a fire idea for spelunker amulet rework

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make it auto place torches for you

lapis oak
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Terrible

polar tide
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ew no

dusk bronze
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👎

pulsar cobalt
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wtf

lapis oak
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Never cook again Tsuki

high scaffold
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Spelunker amulet rework idea: removed

dusk bronze
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true

dull heart
twin juniper
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Auric tier spelunker amulet

polar tide
dull heart
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We need old die rework to bring back luck working on damage and increase dmg spread amount

fathom girder
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Spelunker Amulet:
+5% mining speed, after mining a specific ore, other sources of that ore glow for 30 seconds

dusk bronze
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i literally only use old die for fishing

fathom girder
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I think

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that would be cool

tropic jolt
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stardust spelunker amulet that summons the stardust guardian but it just punches the ores instead of enemies

twin juniper
tired adder
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dumb idea: accessory ability hotkey to roll dice

dull heart
pulsar cobalt
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i love how queen bee doesnt despawn

tired adder
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rolling specific sides gives specific luck for 10 minutes

tropic jolt
tired adder
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and cooldown is 15 minutes

tropic jolt
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😳

dull heart
high scaffold
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It will grow arms and punch everyone who dares to hurt wild burrowers

silent chasm
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Spelunker amulet should be pre hard mode

tropic jolt
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when the stardust miner punches auric you get a cinematic cutscene with a qte and if you fail it rejects you

fathom girder
dull heart
tropic jolt
dusk bronze
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no

high scaffold
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Bloody worm scarf upgrades when?

dull heart
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Yharon dropping the ultimate anti exos nuke is very funny to me

fathom girder
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"I gotchu"

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"I don't like the fight either"

dull heart
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"yeah we know this boss sucks"

fathom girder
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LOL YEAH

pulsar cobalt
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we should have a miracle matter version of transformer

late eagle
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Hey were is the cal art invite? I want to go there again

pulsar cobalt
late eagle
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Thanks tsuki

dull heart
solemn crest
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I see no downside to this

fathom girder
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Dark sun ring should provide benefits for being each gender so there's synergy with trans former

tropic jolt
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but 1.4.5 removed gender

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😨

dull heart
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Gender Change pot still exists

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So

fathom girder
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yeah yeah we'll worry about that when the port happens

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"We" the orange ones

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's their problem

frail owl
solemn crest
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Cal undoes the 1.4.5 character changes so that the trans former still works

tired adder
fathom girder
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porque no los dos

solemn crest
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🏳️‍⚧️ resprite auric Tesla to have this color palette

wary crest
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Patch notes: readded gender

high scaffold
dull heart
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I'm still so sad yift doesn't get hive pack

fathom girder
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what if

tropic jolt
dull heart
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It doesn't spawn bees

fathom girder
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what if exo prism upgrade to Yift

vocal kelp
fathom girder
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it spawns mechanical exo hornets

vocal kelp
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do it please

fathom girder
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and it also uses hive pack in its recipe

vocal kelp
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if not well get remix to do it

high scaffold
solemn crest
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Beeeeeeeeeeeeeeessssss

tropic jolt
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THE BEES

lyric trellis
solemn crest
tropic jolt
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yift should disable step stool because it’s a table

fathom girder
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It's a small table yeah

dull heart
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What if

fathom girder
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WAIT

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active nuke if you use step stool

dull heart
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Yift didn't benefit from hive pack

fathom girder
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because you punch the table

solemn crest
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Ok what is yift?

dull heart
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But it provided hive pack

solemn crest
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I’m lost

tropic jolt
wary crest
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It’s not real

high scaffold
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There should be a shadowspec tier weapon that shoots entire bee movie script letter by letter that will also benefit from hive pack

fathom girder
wary crest
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They should readd the plague keeper

fathom girder
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cuz I don't think there's any good bees at that stage

wary crest
fathom girder
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are there

high scaffold
dull heart
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there aren't

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Which is why it's extra funny

vocal kelp
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they should readd plague keeper because remix needs it for the post ml plague content bit to rlly make sense

tropic jolt
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hello spriter team we need exo hornets this is urgent

fathom girder
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oh

wary crest
fathom girder
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it's just "eh fuck it why not"

wary crest
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And they killed it

dull heart
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It's a

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Yharim likes bees joke

fathom girder
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w

tired adder
high scaffold
wary crest
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😔

high scaffold
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I know

vocal kelp
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they say yharim keeps a beekeper framed behind his throne

fathom girder
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That's for special circumstances

solemn crest
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Fun canon fact: Yharon is actually seven hundred thousand bees under a tarp!

fathom girder
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that doesn't check out with my sources

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seven hundred thousand bees can't punch a table that hard

dull heart
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He's a hundred thousand bees in a suit of exo auric armor

fathom girder
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okay that would be enough

fathom girder
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no no no the exo auric armor definitely clears that

dull heart
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no he did that table punch without the armor

dull heart
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Source: I made it up

fathom girder
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bullshit

solemn crest
dusk bronze
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i mean yes they can

fathom girder
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source: I made it up first

tropic jolt
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Yharim is 200% bees

dull heart
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source: orange name

fathom girder
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FUCK

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I concede

dull heart
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have you ever seen 700k bees punch a table

solemn crest
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Causes earthquakes

fathom girder
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I haven't

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admittedly

dull heart
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Yharim is actually only 200 bees though because that's the NPC cap 😢

high scaffold
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Is amidas' pendant an actual usable accessory?

pulsar cobalt
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yea

tropic jolt
fathom girder
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damnit cyver

pulsar cobalt
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ai

dull heart
grave geyser
high scaffold
tropic jolt
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😡

tired adder
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about actual events about 700000 bees

fathom girder
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boooooo

dull heart
fathom girder
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booooooooooooooo

grave geyser
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ah

high scaffold
fathom girder
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no 700k bees mentioned

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banned

solemn crest
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I did the math, Yharim is actually 140 million bees to punch a table hard enough to cause an earthquake (assuming these are very strong bees)

fathom girder
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what about the godkilling explosion

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that occurred in the room

tired adder
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how many bees are in average bee hive?

solemn crest
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Idk I think they’d be capable of that

fathom girder
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mk

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cuz that did also happen

solemn crest
lapis oak
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wait

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how is Miracle Stool

tired adder
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who is going to draw the bee human Yharim?

lapis oak
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is it still breathing

fathom girder
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you know about how Infernum has those namedrops for the bosses

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BEE SWARM MASTER

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YHARIM

solemn crest
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Damn, in terms of bees, Yharim is like 37x as strong as the USA

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Wait

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Hold on I did math wrong

fathom girder
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how are you converting bee strength to military strength

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or are you taking bee numbers in the us instead

solemn crest
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Yharim is 122x as strong as America if we’re talking about number of bees

fathom girder
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impressive

solemn crest
dull heart
distant raft
dull heart
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Yharim is about 634k nukes of power

fathom girder
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oh dear

tired adder
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what have you done

dull heart
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:)

distant raft
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it takes a few minutes for a bee to dislodge itself safely

fathom girder
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SEND THIS TO LORE CHAT NOW

solemn crest
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Yharim doesn’t even break planetary scaling

halcyon seal
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What the fuck did I just walk in on

tropic jolt
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bee Powerscaling

fathom girder
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hi searslug

halcyon seal
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searslug

solemn crest
tropic jolt
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this is the most important conversation of our lives

halcyon seal
solemn crest
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Are you equal to at least 140 million bees?

halcyon seal
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I’d say so

solemn crest
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Hmmm

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Yharim would be scared of you then 🤔

tired adder
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so would this be Yharim's bodycell?

steel pike
halcyon seal
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I could beat 140 million bees at chess

steel pike
solemn crest
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How easy would it be for you 🤔

steel pike
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And one

halcyon seal
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But I could manage

tropic jolt
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Yharim is like a bee vampire who sucks honey instead of blood

halcyon seal
solemn crest
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Do with that what you will

blazing field
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we can finally be bees

fierce nebula
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🐝

dusk bronze
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22

fathom girder
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crazy to think that yharim punched a table and then survived for more than 30 years

steel pike
halcyon seal
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How many bees would be needed to kill Goku

steel pike
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they literally just released

steel pike
dusk bronze
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at least 4

steel pike
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Like more than 100 prolly..

steel pike
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Maybe 5

solemn crest
tired adder
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so if Yharim's blood cells are bees

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does that mean that Queen Bee is his blood donor?

solemn crest
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That’s a doze question

steel pike
solemn crest
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Idk I don’t know enough about anime

blazing field
tired adder
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if Auric Tesla is modified version of Yharim's armor

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is auric ore just concentrated honey?

solemn crest
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I think it’s concentrated bee

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Like bee energy

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Beeness if you will

fathom girder
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Potent bee energy mixed with the power of a dragon

solemn crest
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That’s why it’s yellow

fathom girder
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I still think exo hornets should be a thing

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but

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that might be too overhaul-y

solemn crest
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Also, if you rearrange the letters in Auric, it spells BEE

tired adder
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because Yharim doesn't like Draedon

unique warren
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How does one even fight providence again idk I think I'm ass

fathom girder
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no no

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it COULD be canon

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because draedon wasn't beyond experimenting with bees

unique warren
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Like the projectiles seem to be all over the place god it's been too long since I've played

fathom girder
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exo bees would simply be a perfection of the plague he created

solemn crest
fathom girder
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true...

tired adder
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we have ran exo brain into the ground

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now it's time for exo queen bee

fathom girder
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p sure you can still nohit her in a scal box arena

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I just. never do that and rungod her lole

solemn crest
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Does Yharim scale above the mutant?

tired adder
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while yharim is just combination of... bees?

unique warren
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Nvm I can't even fight the boss

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I sure do love playing on mac (endless lag)

solemn crest
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But he’s 140 million bees

fathom girder
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bees are beyond your big enemy propaganda

solemn crest
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So he could beat 140 million gokus

unique warren
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Welp, guess I won't be able to test anything in this mod SAD

tired adder
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also

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Mutant is Yharim, if you temper with timeline

rancid pagoda
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actually probably helps to be a little slower, to more accurately avoid the bullet hell

tired adder
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so they shouldn't be enemies

unique warren
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If someone could test Legion vs Terraprisma on Providence that would be great since it does not seem to be an option for me

fathom girder
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why would you use a pre ml weapon against a post ml boss

unique warren
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I need the killtimes wires

fathom girder
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ofc it's gonna be worse than legion

unique warren
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I still need the killtimes wires

fathom girder
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what for

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just for the sake of knowing?

rancid pagoda
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data I'm assuming

unique warren
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I'd like to see how it actually performs cause I know it's worse I just don't know by how much

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Like again I would do this myself but stuff beyond skill is getting in the way here

fathom girder
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You could do some math for this

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By doing a dps test between the two, seeing if anyone has a kill time with legion

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and then doing some % nonsense

unique warren
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That would be difficult cause of guardians probably

fathom girder
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eugh

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true

rancid pagoda
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honestly you could godmode it if you just want the minion performance

unique warren
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Yeah probably

strange cargo
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Guys I got a shout out

solemn crest
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🥳

unique warren
ashen pivot
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Mac is anti gaming 💔😔

fathom girder
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You're using an office computer for gaming

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you lost sight of the objective on step one

unique warren
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It's all I have ok

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Shout out to the time I took 500 attempts on revengeance DoG back in 2021 cause of lag

vivid thicket
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Is there a way to summon the minions faster? When I change the armor back to summon I need to click to summon all of em' one by one

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I don't remember if was on the calamity mod that had a option that recast faster

dusk bronze
late eagle
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I know Iban made this ark concept, but who made the other weapons?

unique warren
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Idk they seem pretty similar in artstyle

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Well, actually, idk they do seem a tad different...

deft lily
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mod calamity

blazing field
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i think it was nitro b ut dont quote me on that

unique warren
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I really like the redesigns

late eagle
unique warren
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They're noticeably different but still have that same idea, I wish the same could be said for the miracle matter stuff

unique warren
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I mean we have glimpses at em and I'm... not a fan but with Brainstorm being out who knows if those are even up to date

dull heart
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miracle saw one looks so cool but the others I'm

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idk

unique warren
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That one I'm... okay-ish with but the others yeah no thanks sorry

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But that one did seem the most finished, so

dull heart
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yeah none of them were really finished

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miracle matter should all be invisible hear me out

unique warren
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SAD so peak

late eagle
dull heart
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It's a miracle you can use it because you can't even see it

unique warren
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Can someone grab the images we have of it

late eagle
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At least that was what I get from all the miracle discussions

dull heart
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from everything I've seen miracle saw was the least divisive

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Probably helps that lile

lapis oak
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yeah

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idk what are you talking about

dull heart
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There's no current miracle saw to compare to

lapis oak
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the most divisive was a Dia edit of Exoblade

dull heart
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yeah

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It feels too much like aotc to me

late eagle
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That's strange, I remember people whining about how the saw color didn't work out

cinder hearth
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Speaking of miracle matter weapons

Please tell me vivid clarity is getting reworked eventually

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The sprite looks so cool

late eagle
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But okay, maybe I'm just the crazy one

cinder hearth
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But then you use it

dull heart
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nope it's going to be entirely unchanged for the rest of time

unique warren
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I gotta say, as much as I do love AotC... dude where did Galaxia go

late eagle
dull heart
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galaxia is very much in aotc??

cinder hearth
dull heart
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visually mostly but some function too

unique warren
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Aesthetically yes but I'm having trouble finding its function in AotC

lapis oak
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people when AotC doesn't have 10 forms

strange cargo
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Summoner will be buffed in the next update

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Mage is irrelevant

late eagle
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Whip update trust

cinder hearth
dull heart
late eagle
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Actually

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The W.I.P UPDATE

strange cargo
dull heart
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Big Rip Dash was also Galaxia

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But that got murdered

unique warren
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Still a bit of a shame it's so AotE-focused

late eagle
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EVERYTHING WILL BE ETERNALLY WORK IN PROGRESS

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WONDERFUL

main falcon
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are the chillet and skater shoes being nerfed when porting to the update

unique warren
dull heart
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tbh I don't really know how it could be more Galaxia without just being Galaxia

unique warren
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Yeah it's kind of a necessary evil kinda thing

dull heart
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And I'm glad it isn't a biome blade as much as an arc bc biome blades are cool but suck

late eagle
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Though it's still pretty cool

dull heart
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Especially Galaxia

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Galaxia loses all the stuff I think is interesting about the biome blades

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Being secondary effects and being tied to biomes

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tbh I'd love to rework the biome blades

lapis oak
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never have I ever saw anyone using every Galaxia's attunements other than Aries

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like people don't even use the whole weapon completely

late eagle
dull heart
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The issue with biome blades is

unique warren
dull heart
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They're 4 weapons in 1 slot

unique warren
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At least... wait I swear biome blade had more than 4 attunements

dull heart
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they're not actually one weapon as the effects have absolutely trivial

lapis oak
unique warren
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Oh wait it's True Biome Blade that loses a ton

dull heart
unique warren
dull heart
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TBB merges the 6 into 3 I think

unique warren
dull heart
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not really possible

lapis oak
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go ahead

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I'd like you to try

dull heart
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Also more attunements makes the problem worse not better

still cobalt
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idk biomeblade always feels like "choose the two attunements you like and thats done"

unique warren
dull heart
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Like Galaxia being one separate weapon for each attunement would change literally nothing of note

unique warren
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True

dull heart
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That's the main issue it has

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It's not one cohesive weapon

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It's four weapons in a trench coat

unique warren
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The issue is that most attunements are kinda really niche

dull heart
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they have to be niche to not just all be the same

unique warren
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Specific, not too niche

lapis oak
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3 attunements got removed for the Biome Blade line in 2.1 like do you not see having many attunements is the problem

dull heart
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I think

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I think I'd want to redo the attunement system entirely

unique warren
dull heart
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Make it so biome blades have one core function that is modified by attunements

high scaffold
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Galaxia has 2 of its attunements basicaly not related to melee

dusk bronze
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peak

dull heart
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However changing biome blade too much is also probably gonna make a lot of people unhappy

unique warren
dusk bronze
dull heart
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no

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lame rack

unique warren
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You either make it one cohesive weapon that is modified (your idea) or make it a mode-switching kind of thing, where you swap attacks based on the situatiuon

twin juniper
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can we remove Galaxia from Aotc

dusk bronze
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based rack

late eagle
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I feel like people will go completely nuts if you try to change the biome blade anymore than what was changed in 2.1

dusk bronze
dull heart
unique warren
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Explain

dull heart
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It just wouldn't involve the modes being so different

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For example, Desert might make dmg stronger but close range

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Crimson might provide lifesteal but lower damage

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Swap between them depending on situation

high scaffold
unique warren
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I feel like that can be done while still making each attunement super different

dull heart
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So like

still cobalt
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current desert is already close range not much is being changed

dull heart
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yeah the actual core niches of some are fine

high scaffold
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Does anyone actualy use the desert one

dull heart
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Desert and Evil attunements are actually well designed I think

twin juniper
dusk bronze
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the biome blade attunements should actually represent aspects of the biomes

dull heart
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And purity

unique warren
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Honestly I think that, for broken and regular biome blade, some biomes should just share attunements

dull heart
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Snow is the issue because it just does desert better

still cobalt
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i like this idea as long as the core weapon is actually interesting. like the gimmick of changing stats for dif niche is cool but if the weapon itself is boring it just seems like a waste imo

unique warren
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Oh shit they do, wow yeah and there's still a fuckton of em

dull heart
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I wouldn't make it just stats

still cobalt
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i love purity on reg biome blade i think is really cool with the dash

high scaffold
fathom girder
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Galaxia feels rather clumsy currently

lapis oak
dusk bronze
unique warren
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Honestly I think True Biome Blade is wonky as fuck to use too

twin juniper
barren nacelle
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My issue with attunements is that I never find myself using them beyond purity’s

high scaffold
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Why does jungle attunement still exist on regular biome blade?

unique warren
still cobalt
high scaffold
unique warren
high scaffold
unique warren
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It's also a ror2 reference RAGHHH 🗣️

tired adder
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I will agree on biome blade feeling like 4 weapons that occupy the same slot

unique warren
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Which isn't rlly a bad thing that's like, pretty useful actually

still cobalt
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on broken biome blade i feel like snow is easiest/best
once purity gets the dash i think it becomes the best

high scaffold
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Its even weirder since jungle got removed from broken biome blade

lapis oak
high scaffold
unique warren
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Someone just make them good please thanks :)

tired adder
strange cargo
#

Im just gonna trust the process bc the devs treat us well 99% of the time

tired adder
#

but it's just too complex for terraria, imho

high scaffold
#

True biome blade jumbles up the attunement combos in a way I dont like almost at all

unique warren
tired adder
#

yes

#

tierlist has "Easy to use" as positive factor

unique warren
#

Eh, that's not really necessarily good or bad

fathom girder
#

calamity likes to get complicated the further down you go

unique warren
#

Items that are complex to use are super fun

fathom girder
#

builds that have many moving parts are by far my FAVORITE

#

ofc it's all subjective in that regard

dull heart
#

Too complex does matter because it limits how well it can function if it's too complex

#

There's good and bad conplexit

strange cargo
#

I think thats due to skill floor and skill ceiling

final pine
dull heart
#

Biome Blade complexity is not good complexity

tired adder
dull heart
#

It raises skill floor and not skill ceiling

unique warren
#

True

tired adder
#

then they should become their own weapons

unique warren
#

But that's about current implementation

strange cargo
#

If its harder for the average player to get value out of it, it should be lower in guides and stuff

unique warren
dusk bronze
#

good complexity is like ultrakill, with a pretty low skill floor and Fucking Infinite skill ceiling

fathom girder
#

did you see that speedrunners got 8-3 down to 5 minutes already

dusk bronze
#

jesus

final pine
#

how

fathom girder
#

er I think the lowest is a 4:13

#

IDK but it's fuckin' wild

blazing field
#

complexity on items is at it best when the item'ws complextiy makes it harder to use but rewards those who do engage with that complexity

fathom girder
#

it's a p rank too

blazing field
#

Though i will say , its also good to make sure weapons dont like do everything imo, its nice to have weapons that fill diff niches

still cobalt
#

complexity should always reward skill but not have a skill barrier ya feel

high scaffold
livid hinge
#

have there been changes to sunken sea with the last update? Or are they coming later? it seems the wiki doesn't say anything but idk if its because it's not yet updated

final pine
#

i think the ark line does complexity just right and biome blade line is just all over the place

fathom girder
#

9-x is going to be purely unfair

tired adder
livid hinge
final pine
#

like some attunements are pretty good and some are actual garbage

tired adder
rare tinsel
#

gilded peoboscis once again proves it’s peak design

unique warren
#

Biome Blade discourse has now gotten borung can we talk about smth else

final pine
#

i haven't played with new galaxia though did they change anything about it

unique warren
dusk bronze
high scaffold
fathom girder
#

low range doesn't mean it's baaaaaaaaaaaaad

#

you just gotta WALK UP

final pine
unique warren
lapis oak
unique warren
lapis oak
#

you even use the weapon?

fathom girder
#

I think doze mentioned that it'll get buffed to work with size

unique warren
#

Like I get it but why are we getting outranged by pre-hm spears

fathom girder
#

cuz it does like 100k damage

high scaffold
unique warren
#

Yeah if you charge it up for a fuckton of time

still cobalt
#

it removed the [passive affects thing

clear pine
#

guys should i use the new blocks for building scourge nest (arid dirt, dunesand) or classic blocks like sandstone

final pine
fathom girder
#

you're supposed to use the weapon the way it's meant to be used or something

clear pine
#

also big open caves or the normal small caves

unique warren
high scaffold
fathom girder
#

you're small

still cobalt
fathom girder
#

your want for every tmelee to be large sounds like you're COMPENSATING

unique warren
#

"Large" and it's like, 15 tiles maybe

grim pecan
#

thank you for reminding me i wanted to do something

fathom girder
#

oh hi sunny

tired adder
lapis oak
#

talking about low range for a weapon that is used on Providence?

#

what are we even trying to do here

final pine
#

a boss with no contact gamage

fathom girder
#

I don't know man

lapis oak
#

like seriously

unique warren
high scaffold
#

Skytide dragoon was looking promising for me and maybe it is good but not against DoG

fathom girder
#

Skytide probably does work against like

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old duke or polter idk

unique warren
#

It's just funny to have a weapon that primarily relies on the boss you use it on to be super easy for true melee XD

high scaffold
unique warren
#

Did they fix the "press right click while holding left click" bs yet

lapis oak
high scaffold
fathom girder
#

luhmao

fathom girder
#

yea

tired adder
#

2.1 makes it clear, than tru meme distinction will be eventually phased out

high scaffold
#

I think you can beat polter right after moon lord no issues

lapis oak
#

Gilded Proboscis left click is literally in a better spot than other true melee options because it can store damage while not being able to attack the bosses

#

like are we serious

unique warren
#

I'm not saying it's bad

#

It's just wack

tired adder
fathom girder
#

yes true melee weapons do whack

unique warren
#

Hmm you see you did mispell that

fathom girder
#

ON PURPOSE

#

I SWEAR

unique warren
#

That does unfortunately mean i have won the argument

fathom girder
#

DAMNIT

dull heart
unique warren
#

It's like, semi-common but not that frequent

unique warren
dull heart
#

depends

#

2.1.2 hasn't

high scaffold
#

How is megalodon rework going?

tired adder
dull heart
#

But some of them are wip being fixed upcoming

unique warren
#

Nice.

tired adder
#

I guess that is only true for 2.1 reworks???????????

dull heart
#

Depends

#

Not even all 2.1 reworks are like that

unique warren
#

Anyways yeah I am very gilded proboscis-phobic rn fr

dull heart
#

Some 2.1 reworks alt fires is just watered down main fir

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See: Holy Collider or Basher

unique warren
#

Closer to a shortsword than a spear 🥀

dull heart
#

It has range just like most spears do

lapis oak
still cobalt
dull heart
#

is there any spear that's notably longer??

lapis oak
#

Holy Collider and Basher respectively

high scaffold
#

Crackshot colt and midas prime have nice M2 and M1 combo

fathom girder
#

stormtide dragoon is rather long

dull heart
#

but yeah HC alt fire is bad

unique warren
#

I could test it out rq

dull heart
#

I don't think that's true but maybe

dusk bronze
#

it's the same

unique warren
#

But I have in the past and most are I believe

dull heart
#

I'll look at it

high scaffold
#

Also when will botanic piercer and its elemental upgrade become actualy good?

fathom girder
#

I think it'll be fine once weapon size is something you can change on it

unique warren
#

Perhaps

fathom girder
#

isn't the elemental spear exceptionally good rn

dull heart
#

I'm not sure if I'm giving it size or not still

#

mostly bc then ale is just

unique warren
grim pecan
dull heart
#

Free size

fathom girder
#

I c

still cobalt
high scaffold
fathom girder
#

Yeah it's kinda funny

unique warren
#

Dawg is it??? It's getting actively better??

fathom girder
#

it gives 2018 elemental weapon vibes

dull heart
unique warren
#

Oh wait I misread

#

Yeah that shit boring

dull heart
#

Holy Collider alt fire dying can't come soon enough

high scaffold
fathom girder
#

okay it's not EXACTLY like what it was back then

#

cuz back then it spawned the extra projectiles on hit didn't it?

#

or was that only elemental disk

still cobalt
#

i feel like the charging of hc just isnt worth the time sink

dull heart
#

it is because you can charge when outside of range

#

Just like Proboscis

high scaffold
fathom girder
#

lmao

#

yeah the name is not beholding of what it currently does tbh

#

once it gets cool it'll earn that name

dusk bronze
#

vanishing point btw

tired adder
#

alt fires are honestly cringe mechanic
it is often, as you said, just lamer main fire
right click can mis-interact with many things, when smart cursor is on
and it was introduced for crossover weapons

high scaffold
#

Also the elemental bow is in an extreme need of rework and a resprite

dusk bronze
#

true

dull heart
main estuary
dull heart
#

When the fires perform different niches and compliment each other

still cobalt
#

ive only ever made vanishing point so i can craft nadir when i need it

dull heart
#

Like I'm pretty sure all the vanilla alt fires are good

lapis oak
#

alt fires is good when it's not a Holy Collider or Basher situation

fathom girder
#

I can't think of a vanilla weapon with a poor altfire

high scaffold
fathom girder
#

despite most of them not directly synergizing with each other

dull heart
#

but a lot of cal weapons alt fires suck

#

Like Shredder line

main estuary
dull heart
#

Or Plague Tainted SMG

dusk bronze
tired adder
high scaffold
dusk bronze
dull heart
fathom girder
#

If you want a calamity weapon with a good alt attack, there's the BLSR countermeasure Mitt

dusk bronze
#

yeah using it rn

fathom girder
#

that thing is fucking AWESOME

dusk bronze
#

yikes

main estuary
tired adder
fathom girder
#

and it has a very good altfire that compliments while not overriding the m1

#

that thing is my favorite magic weapon

unique warren
#

Ok so it's less than I thought but like, a good amount of vanilla spears outrange gilded

fathom girder
#

hellborn is also swag

unique warren
high scaffold
tired adder
dull heart
high scaffold
#

Also the superadiant slaughterer

unique warren
fathom girder
# dusk bronze dd line

That's an example of an altfire that has an extremely synergistic effect that works, yeah

dull heart
#

I don't know how I feel about slaughter alt fire

fathom girder
mystic eagle
#

I kinda wish that the LMB for Hellborn did more damage than the RMB so the weapon encourages aggressive play even more

unique warren
#

My point is that gilded is pretty small

fathom girder
#

no offense to the donor who wanted that weapon but

#

sheesh man

lapis oak
#

and not just launch them

high scaffold
main estuary
fathom girder
#

I'm gonna vomit

main estuary
#

i need to quit using that as my punching bag

fathom girder
#

I legitimately used that thing for a bit in post ml

#

like it's simple and it works

#

that stupid caster gauntlet is giving me a headache and makes dodging more annoying

unique warren
#

What's wrong with it exactly

main estuary
#

we both have our own hated weapon choice

fathom girder
#

indeed we do

mystic eagle
tired adder
#

conceptually

unique warren
#

Like, idk tha caster gauntlet looks cool

fathom girder
#

It looks cool

dusk bronze
fathom girder
#

My main gripe with the gauntlet is simple

#

it's too visually distracting

#

it's effective but makes me feel very clumsy

#

and also doesn't use mana

#

it uses its own resource that can't really be manipulated in any interesting way

tired adder
unique warren
#

Okay that is an upgrade

mystic eagle
unique warren
#

Cause the way mana is manipulated is exceedingly awful

fathom girder
#

CHAOS STONE

#

smh

unique warren
#

Oh yay I put on mana regen potion now I never have to worry about mana ever again

high scaffold
#

I wonder when is MM weapon reworks are gonna come

fathom girder
#

if you ever hate base mana systems

#

pick up chaos stone

#

and go nuts

unique warren
#

Chaos Stone is cool but like, not my vision for what mage should be either

tired adder
fathom girder
#

it's not quite what I want for mage either

#

but

unique warren
#

Definitely better but also farther from what it should be

#

But like, it's still better lol

fathom girder
#

the way chaos stone makes me rethink my resource management is how I think mana itself should work

#

because really chaos stone turns your healthbar into the mana bar

high scaffold
fathom girder
#

and the many regen and healing options that are interesting make such management fun

#

with the ion gun recharge adding an extra layer

unique warren
fathom girder
#

But that gets close to rogue

#

at least kinda

#

though that's not exactly a bad thing is it

unique warren
#

Well, rogue also has its issues to be fair

fathom girder
#

yea

unique warren
#

I think rogue should be more about uhh what was it

#

Rogue Talisman? Yeah that accessory is basically what rogue should be

#

Just make it a bit more interesting than that

dull heart
#

Wulfrum Knife is the perfect rogue weapon

high scaffold
#

You know what? Unstealthing your rogue, now you gotta focus

fathom girder
#

Given rogue is already gonna be reworked to use focus instead of stealth later

#

I can't say much on what rogue "should be"

unique warren
#

True

fathom girder
#

as the devs already seem to have a clear idea of what they want

unique warren
#

And idk if we have a clear idea of what the devs want

fathom girder
#

exactly :D

unique warren
#

But uh yeah, I think for what Rogue currently is, the best rework would be gameplay that semi-forces you to swap between stealth and spam

clear pine
#

made an early version of the timeless shores, no decor just some blocks and water

#

rlly hard to make the limestone fit in with the rest of the blocks tbh

unique warren
#

Idk what a timeless shore is

clear pine
#

only even included it bc limestone grows cool vines

dull heart
#

limestone wasn't part of timeless shores so I think that tracks

main estuary
dull heart
#

I think limestone was polyp forest

unique warren
main estuary
#

where you have to take breaks for maximum rogue weapon efficiency

clear pine
#

block pallet thing had them swapped for some reason

dull heart
main estuary
#

or like
spam for a limited amount of time
stealth to replenish

dull heart
#

I think timeless shores is dunesand and runestone or something

unique warren
#

My idea was that a stealth strike would give you a rogue attack speed increase for some time

main estuary
#

possibly

clear pine
#

hmmmm i wonder what the purple vines are for if they spawn in polyp forest

lyric trellis
#

Normal rogue should just be what hybrid is instead of 2 classes yes

distant agate
#

i wanna thank whoever reworked warbanner of the sun into letting me be both a holy fire paladin from diablo 2 and also gojo at the same time

clear pine
#

i feel like polyp forest is one least known rn tbh i dont even know what layer its supposed to be

distant agate
#

altho it probably shouldnt be able to stop the mini plague bringer from ever touching me lol

tired adder
grim pecan
#

kept meaning to do this for a while but i always forgot ty chat for reminding me

dull heart
#

oh no

grim pecan
#

you can now eject SPHC's currently loaded soul type by shift-right clicking the item

fathom girder
#

YES

#

YESSSSSS

#

thanks sunny

grim pecan
#

i definitely didn't mess it up at first and made shift right clicking the item immediately destroy it

fathom girder
#

SHPC was just a prototype anyway

#

it should have a 1% chance of doing that in gfb I think..

tired adder
cinder hearth
tired adder
#

but how you would see the effect

#

inventory instantly closes when you die

fathom girder
#

you explode with the deltarune explosion

#

I think that's the best solution here

cinder hearth
barren nacelle
#

I still think yharon soul fragments in the shpc would be fun

fathom girder
#

that would be a cheeky secret lul

unique warren
fathom girder
#

sorry is that actually a thing

unique warren
fathom girder
#

huh

#

1984

tired adder
#

I mean, Zenith for most part is inside jokes about developers

tropic jolt
fathom girder
#

yeah but it doesn't reference um

#

anything

#

it's just zenith that's it

fathom girder
tired adder
tropic jolt
#

yay

tired adder
#

and gamemaker explosion is just iconic effect for self-destructions

unique warren
#

Suggestion: add functionality to Dratalornius in GFB that throws a tomato at you when you use it cause it sucks

tired adder
#

no

unique warren
#

Damn.

tired adder
#

halibut already exists for that joke

clear pine
#

just discovered that the new tiles can be used by rubblemaker

#

does the wiki even mention this?

unique warren
rancid pagoda
fathom girder
#

Not sure if the wiki's updated enough to mention the rubblemaker thing

clear pine
#

rock pillar i made based on the timeless shore background (just pretend its the timeless shore one and not the sunken sea)

hard copper
#

hell yeah

distant agate
#

tf is SHPC

clear pine
#

mage draedon weapon made from that material in the planet lab

unique warren
#

weapon

fathom girder
#

each soul has a unique effect

#

you can recycle fired souls

distant agate
#

neat

fathom girder
#

it's rather fancy yeah

lapis oak
#

why are Mantis Claws not a true melee weapon

#

this seems like an oversight

fathom girder
#

probably

unique warren
#

Holy Collider had that issue on release

lapis oak
#

you know what after some thoughts I don't think it's a true melee

#

right click attack doesn't need any resources to do

#

unlike Sahara Slicer or Galileo

radiant flower
#

amalgam only becomes a good defensive accessory if you dont already have a dodge right?

rancid pagoda
#

dodges stack now

radiant flower
#

cuz lowkey this accessory actually contributes to alot of damage

radiant flower
unique warren
still cobalt
rancid pagoda
unique warren
#

😭

lapis oak
#

its 2 distinct attacks can be treated true melee and normal melee properly but not Mantis Claws, not Briny Baron, and NOT Devil's Devastation Line

#

it's absolutely tragic

unique warren
#

That just seems like an issue other stuff has that aegis doesn’t

lapis oak
#

blame all the problems on Aegis itself because fuck that weapon

stone fiber
#

Agreed

#

All my homies hate Aegis Blade XD

lapis oak
#

with that said, true melee attacks on those weapons that I have mentioned should receive the same treatment like Aegis Blade

radiant flower
lapis oak
#

because just why the fuck that's not the case already

lean relic
lapis oak
#

(or that's already the case but both the wiki and ingame tooltips don't explain it)

#

which, I think they really should

pulsar cobalt
tawny cradle
#

Just done the tmodloader update, and whenever I spawn a boss it instantly brings itself to around a tenth of it's HP. Anyone else noticed this or is it just mine being cooked?

distant agate
#

ive not had that issue

lean relic
pulsar cobalt
#

let me check

#

gonna need to boot up tmod

#

i can immediately say tho

#

pearl piles are for clam den not radiant reefs

dusk bronze
#

damn radiant reefs has NOTHING

pulsar cobalt
#

or at least the white ones are i dont think ive seen naturally spawning black and pink ones (tho this could be a case of the generation not being done)

#

radiant reefs has stuff

#

i dont remember what it was

lapis oak
#

has nothing

lapis oak
#

that's what it have

pulsar cobalt
dusk bronze
#

idfk
file names

#

was sso leaked or something

pulsar cobalt
#

some of the code is in the history section for calamitys github

#

the devs knew this would happen before releasing 2.1

dusk bronze
#

ic

lapis oak
#

yoo awesome Ball O' Hurt coming to Cal texture pack wth

dusk bronze
#

are you

#

gonna send it here

lapis oak
#

fine

rare tinsel
#

o shit nice

tropic jolt
#

poiler

lapis oak
#

2.2 monthly changelogs when

lean relic
#

no unless its not hotfix

tropic jolt
#

are they phasing out changelogs now

tired adder
#

the main person who posted them is no longer with us

tropic jolt
#

LLY 🕊️

tired adder
tropic jolt
#

oh you meant the horse

lapis oak
#

YuH is no longer with us that's so sad

lean relic
#

There's no way yuh left

lapis oak
#

fly high 🐦

tired adder
#

maybe team doesn't want to tell too much

tropic jolt
#

tbh I dont think monthly changelogs are necessary

lapis oak
#

that's right

#

daily changelogs

tropic jolt
#

hourly

lapis oak
#

too soon

tropic jolt
#

we need to implant all devs with microchips to measure productivity

tired adder
tropic jolt
#

most productive dev gets 15 minutes of sunlight, as a treat

tired adder
steel pike
#

What if calamity was like one of those AAA games

distant agate
#

focus T

steel pike
#

Press LR to activate yharim vision

tropic jolt
#

terrarian, the desert scourge has awoken, you need to hit its weakpoint to damage it

#

you can use left mouse button to fire your weapon

distant agate
#

Scal: Terrarian, Yharim is back, you know what that means?

Terrarian: yea, trouble

tropic jolt
#

try using left mouse button to fire your weapon