calamity-update-talk

[floral pier]

did you personally ask john calamity to remove the lazhar because of ptsd

[misty wren]

no it was just a useless weapon

[wise bolt]

whaht the fuck is a lazhar

[rare tinsel]

you don't know about the lazhar???

[grave geyser]

useless is a strong word

[rare tinsel]

lihzahrd tech is so underappreciated here holy fuck

[grave geyser]

it had a use its just it was boring as fuck

[misty wren]

extremely basic functionality with no identity aside from it used to, in ages past, fucking melt deus

[arctic cliff]

lazhar will be saved once i make it into gijinka

lazhar girl

[wise bolt]

i don't know about a lot of things

[floral pier]

are basic weapons generally looked down upon in this context

[rare tinsel]

ehh, nothing necessarily wrong with basic

[grave geyser]

in this case its litterally just a heat ray clone

so yes

[floral pier]

i believe in less is more functionalities (enforcer and iri excal)

[arctic cliff]

more accurately, it was a heat ray instagrade

[misty wren]

when there are like 4 other nearly identically functioning and looking items yeah

[rare tinsel]

i believe that weapons should be as complex as possible

[floral pier]

then again looking back now some of these weapons were ASS 😭😭

[grave geyser]

its only unique property was being a mage weapon that inflicted daybroken

thats really it

[floral pier]

what if you had to combo

what if

you had a SSSTYLE meter?

[rare tinsel]

more complexity means more avenues for synergy and stuff

YOGUH

good idea...

[misty wren]

not technically instagrade it did need cultist dead

[floral pier]

but then you get hit once and ALL your style is gone

[arctic cliff]

which is

[grave geyser]

sure but also simple items have a place in that context too

[rare tinsel]

god i'm delerious

[arctic cliff]

like after golem

[rare tinsel]

i need to go to bed

[rare tinsel]

trure! slime gun

God bless Slime Gun

prayge

[floral pier]

anyway yeah some of these weapons were ASS 😭😭😭

[misty wren]

yeah but still not technically an instagrade

[wise bolt]

https://tenor.com/view/kittens-cat-love-pet-lover-gif-23328304

[floral pier]

(most of the spiky balls except gods paranoia)

[wise bolt]

nap pile with me bro

[rare tinsel]

hell yeah

[arctic cliff]

well fair

[misty wren]

thank god metal monstrosity still exists

[grim pecan]

sandslasher was truly the only thing keeping calamity mod afloat

[arctic cliff]

and besides there's like five billion bosses after golem and before cultist

[misty wren]

best weapon in the existence of calamity mod

[arctic cliff]

the real issue is nychtherom

[floral pier]

i miss

[arctic cliff]

or whatever it was

[floral pier]

when you used to turn into 10 of you

the more the merrier they said

[arctic cliff]

im still sad its gone

[misty wren]

nychthemeron

[arctic cliff]

AT LEAST.

[grave geyser]

polaris parrotfish and wulfrum knife still clear sorry

[wise bolt]

i miss them too

its lonely out here

[floral pier]

WE FUCKING LOVE METAL MONSTROSITY AND INFERNA CUTTER

[arctic cliff]

AT LEAST equanimity was reworked so that the

[boreal edge]

Spinning these guys in my mind

[arctic cliff]

wait

did

[floral pier]

its ok bro im here for you

[wise bolt]

bro.....

[arctic cliff]

they removed the two melee boomerangs from the equanimity recipe and replaced it with fishbone boomerang

holy shit

[grim pecan]

you're welcome

[arctic cliff]

im so fucking elated

holy shit

[floral pier]

now the recipe has zero correlation 🫩

[arctic cliff]

they fixed my biggest issue with the recipe

[grim pecan]

the entire reason i reworked it was to kill that recipe

[misty wren]

i think its really funny that the only time ive ever seen anybody give a singular shit about metal monstrosity was when we were tierskipping in a multiplayer server

[floral pier]

weren’t there like

completely random bullshit in some recipes

i remember before the 1.4 port this mod had some crazy recipes 😭

[misty wren]

there still are if you know where to look

[floral pier]

lord have mercy.

some of these were unironically funny though

[grave geyser]

chat what version would you consider the begining "old cal"

[ashen pivot]

pre-1.5

[misty wren]

before 1.5

[ashen pivot]

ey you get it

[floral pier]

rust and dust era

when they first added unc

[ashen pivot]

what a throwback

life was simpler back then

[arctic cliff]

malice was

soemthing

[floral pier]

ANY time when the lorde was an actual boss people fought is old calamity

[misty wren]

1.5 isnt exactly modern cal but its not old cal either a lot of the bones are still in place there

[ashen pivot]

malice has always been something

[grave geyser]

rust and dust was so peak and so ass at the same time
the update was great at the time but man has that version not aged well

[arctic cliff]

i remembered being completely shocked at rdr

[floral pier]

its like a rough sketch

[ashen pivot]

it kinda marked how the future of the mod was gonna go

[floral pier]

back when sound design didn’t exist 😭

[arctic cliff]

i still think that feature should go fuck itself holy shit i hate it so much

[floral pier]

name a single old mod that didn’t recycle all of its sounds

[ashen pivot]

rdr? red dead redemption?

[misty wren]

it feels like 1.5 was a distinct turning point in calamity

reactive damage reduction

[arctic cliff]

reactive damage reduction

[grave geyser]

are you aware of the full extent of rdr's time in calamity

[ashen pivot]

that sounds like sum astrageldon has

[grave geyser]

geldon does have it

[ashen pivot]

I KNEW IT

[misty wren]

evil mechanic thankfully only used in one boss now

[arctic cliff]

lol yea

luckily its... astralgeldon

[misty wren]

geldon has it but its super lenient

[arctic cliff]

and also i don't really notice it anyways

clearly its done well with that guy

[floral pier]

GOD this feature butchered any fun in this mod

[arctic cliff]

compared to the insane shit i saw on malice mode in 1.5.

[floral pier]

wasnt it on both empress and provi?

[grave geyser]

I dont even know what the first version to add it is because its that fucking old

[floral pier]

love that guy

astrageldon

[grim pecan]

Geldon has a much softer version of RDR than other bosses did

[arctic cliff]

i genuinely exploded realizing that i was going to struggle so much with destroyer whilst having post-astrum deus gear

[misty wren]

when enraged yes now its only on enraged provi

[arctic cliff]

god

im glad its gone

[floral pier]

when was it really bad? because i remember malice providence had it BAD

[grave geyser]

rdr was more extreme in malice on worms and provi specifically

[grim pecan]

uh you would do 80% of destroyer's hp with dragon rage then it would just deal 0 damage

[floral pier]

no providence was a genuine piece of shit to fight when the stars didn’t care about your defense and iframes

[misty wren]

whenever it was anywhere that wasnt enraged provi

even enraged provi you can argue has it bad but like its enraged provi you arent meant to take that fight seriously

[ashen pivot]

yall remember when providence would heal her whole health bar in regular ass death mode when you didn't time an adrenaline to kill the healer guardian

[floral pier]

i keep trying to tell myself that everytime i fight a boss early

[floral pier]

1 shot dog

[grim pecan]

don't worry fluffy (not the one in chat) and i have come up with plenty of ideas to perfectly balance cal that definitely isn't just RDR with extra steps

(it's RDR with extra steps)

[floral pier]

why dont you just make it so that the bosses get angry for using niche setups

[grave geyser]

honestly having played rust and dust again recently, rdr was so hilariously noticable that I'm surprised I didnt notice it sooner

that said

still not the worst mechanic from that version

[ashen pivot]

RDR but it only activates when you're winning

[grave geyser]

that would go to cave darkness

[floral pier]

and have them go on a 1 minute dialogue rant about how jousting lances and inner tubes are some bullshit

[grave geyser]

fuck cave darkness

[ashen pivot]

cave darkness?

[floral pier]

i havent played rdr

[ashen pivot]

enlighten me

[floral pier]

is it even worth it or will i suffer

[grave geyser]

the deeper you go the darker it gets

[misty wren]

this is called: rdr

[dull heart]

rip

[ashen pivot]

this is a: toyota

[misty wren]

if you werent winning rdr wasnt activating

or more accurately it activating wasnt super noticeable

[floral pier]

but if its REACTIVE shouldn’t it be sympathetic if you’re losing

[grave geyser]

reminder that it is meta to drink teleportation potions periodically for the first 3 or so minutes of a boss fight in rdr era

[ashen pivot]

the boss commits suicide when you start your 100th attempt

[grim pecan]

This is untrue, by the way

[floral pier]

is this a reference to that kai cenat meatcanyon video

[misty wren]

its reactive in that it tries to force you to kill a boss within a set minimum

[ashen pivot]

what kai cenat meatcanyon vid 😭

[floral pier]

the one where he plays elden ring

[barren nacelle]

it is? wiki's outdated then, I've brought dishonor to my family

[ashen pivot]

i gotta peep this

[tired adder]

oh

[misty wren]

it will gain increasing dr the faster you kill it in hopes of preventing you from killing a boss too fast

[tired adder]

RDR

I thought you were talking about Red Dead Redemption at first

[ashen pivot]

yea me too

lmao

[barren nacelle]

oh my god it also drops Luminite Bars???

[misty wren]

if you're already on the struggle bus usually rdr wasnt super noticeable, it definitely could be but usually it wasnt

[grim pecan]

Aureus always drops one random Luminite craft when killed. It is totally random which one he drops and can even drop items from other mods, so long as they have Luminite in the recipe

[barren nacelle]

wait no not just luminite bars?

[floral pier]

aureus dropping pillar fragments..

[barren nacelle]

An item that uses luminite

[arctic cliff]

for some reason this reminds me of how a boss in ds2 will straight up seppuku himself if you no-hit him

[barren nacelle]

Holy shit lmao

[misty wren]

it doesnt drop asteroid staff anymore so it just drops something with luminite in it

[barren nacelle]

I've gotta upgrade my fuckass document

[tired adder]

aureus is low% industry plant???

[grim pecan]

You can get extremely lucky and have it drop something like a Cosmic Anvil, or it can drop a single luminite bullet

[floral pier]

holy shit sometimes i really miss when post moon lord some bosses like brimmy and calamitas got beefy

[grim pecan]

have fun gambling!!

[misty wren]

no

[floral pier]

it was oddly satisfying refighting them again

[misty wren]

because you have to interact with: getfixedboi

[ashen pivot]

isn't this still in the game

[floral pier]

only ravager

back then it was aureus calamitas and brimmy too

[ashen pivot]

what i really miss was accessories getting buffed post providence

[misty wren]

and also aureus luminite skip isnt that huge there are other skips that go even further that are more generally useful

[grave geyser]

god post ml aureus was so funny

also

bean was funnier

[ashen pivot]

JELLY BEAN

[grave geyser]

why did it give 70 DEFENSE

[floral pier]

what is aureus genuinely supposed to be 😭like is he a robot spider

[floral pier]

OH MY GOD

[grim pecan]

Getting Cosmic Anvil is a pretty huge skip

[ashen pivot]

bean also ignored if you had fall damage immunity

[barren nacelle]

yeah but you can't really

craft anything

[floral pier]

speaking of which

why were wing buffs removed?

[misty wren]

if bugs are considered its not huge because acrobatic bobber bug is still in

[barren nacelle]

Since it all needs post dog items

[ashen pivot]

so you could die to fall damage at the end of the game because you didn't unmount in time

[grave geyser]

because calamity developers hate YOU specifically

[ashen pivot]

wing buffs were made to be focused on mobility and not random stats

[floral pier]

ah

[ashen pivot]

"yeah it totally makes sense that fairy wings gave you 60 HP"

[dull heart]

aureus skip is easily the biggest one in gfb

[grave geyser]

still better than the current system

by a mile

[floral pier]

i feel like that concept could’ve been taken nicely too

[grave geyser]

but I digress

[ashen pivot]

also yardis said in his brainstorm mage video that the wings were being reverted (he was lied to by someone posing as a dev)

[floral pier]

beefy wings but ur too fat to fly high

[grave geyser]

yardis was wrong

[floral pier]

or you are a literal fly

[barren nacelle]

yeah no Cosmic Anvil doesn't let you craft anything new because every Cosmic Anvil craft uses a post dog material

[dull heart]

aureus skip alone gives evertything needed for both scal and exos

[grim pecan]

This is poorly communicated to the player, we're working on better ways to show this

[dull heart]

but aureus skip also gives those too

through shimmering cosmic anvil, amalgam

[barren nacelle]

FUCK

YOURE RIGHT

[dull heart]

wof -> one mech -> aureus -> exos -> scal

[ashen pivot]

wdym by this? the "hold shift to see more stats" thing?

[dull heart]

is low%

[grave geyser]

frankly just about anything, even just fully reverting to vanilla wing stats, would be better than the current system

but oh well

[barren nacelle]

THATS FUCKED UP

I FORGOT SHIMMER

[dull heart]

anyway yall

i'm doing it

i'm making it good

[grim pecan]

the only limiting factor is gambling :)

[dull heart]

true

[dull heart]

im making it not feel like 2017core

as much

[barren nacelle]

what are we improving?

[grave geyser]

the mod, hopefully

[misty wren]

nah

we're making the mod worse

[ashen pivot]

i remember being so poor that i genuinely considered moving my base to the shimmer so i could craft and recraft accessories until i got the modifier i wanted

shimmer gambling didn't go too well for me

[dull heart]

true

proof: i just deleted yharims gift fart cloud trail code

[ashen pivot]

W

most useless shit ever

did it even do damage like it says it does

[dull heart]

it did 175 base dmg and sucked and was not really usable

and was just

jank

[ashen pivot]

what does game code even look like

i can never picture it in my head

[dull heart]

code

wow

yharim's gift didn't get hit with the rest of the retaliation effects to scale based on difficulty that's so sad

touching this item code feels like i'm vandalzing the natural history museum

[arctic cliff]

god just rework yharim's gift and give it a really unique effect

[dull heart]

no

but i'll make the fireballs home in

[ashen pivot]

HOMING FIRE!!!! 🔥

that might be pretty useful for weaponless runs

[grave geyser]

no way amidias pendant reference

[ashen pivot]

is our favorite jank ass weapon the flamsteed ring gonna get changed anytime soon

[grave geyser]

probably not unless someone gains sudden motivation

[stuck kite]

its so jank i dont even know where to start

[tired adder]

also known as Iban's superdeath robot or Stygian Weaver

[cinder hearth]

Does this code make it so a dragon fireball spawns if the player is standing still with a cool down of 60 (I think it's frames but it could also be seconds if standing still checks every second for some reason)

[dull heart]

close

if they're not standing still

[misty wren]

it is frames yes

[dull heart]

also it's Dragon Dust

[cinder hearth]

Oh right I missed the !

[fierce hearth]

I'm thinking more about SCal and how her attacks do such a terrible job of articulating her unimaginable strength. There's no oomph to them! Her adds sell power better than her!

[cinder hearth]

Idk I think the vortex does it pretty well

[fierce hearth]

That's 1 attack that's extremely passive

[tired adder]

also vulnerability hex kills you

[fierce hearth]

What about dart and skull fireballs 1-10

They look so puny

Like yeah she sells power in how quickly she kills you, but the visuals are so ineffectual

[ashen pivot]

when she gets updated the fight will definitely feel more like what the lore describes her as

[fierce hearth]

Especially with how many are recycled from a boss that's pre-plantera

[tired adder]

are they?

[fierce hearth]

Darts and and skulls

[ashen pivot]

i dunno if they're recycled really

[fierce hearth]

"shared"

[ashen pivot]

didn't cal clone and scal get added in the same update

[tired adder]

SCal projectiles are different from CalClone projectiles since vortex replaced brimstone monsters

[fierce hearth]

I meant Brimmy

Not Calclone

[ashen pivot]

oh

[fierce hearth]

But I guess previously her as well

[burnt basin]

yall, spooky asrmour or tiki armour for summoner

aaaaand how effective is the fgreedy ring when im farming bloodmoon for coins

[fierce hearth]

Lucky coin and its upgrades are only really effective with low damage setups that hit extremely frequently, like passively farming with a slime staff

[placid ocean]

who am i
i am a main player

[fierce hearth]

If your damage is high enough you're probably better off farming a boss with expensive drops (evil 1 is always a good choice)

[fierce hearth]

and also Spooky armor has significantly higher damage, but if you're using a low damage minion with a whip, Tiki armor might be better (plus you get extra defense)

[burnt basin]

im getting more than 40 plat a night tho with bloodmoon farm

[burnt basin]

alr spooky. thx pal

ill keep tiki for any low dmg set up

[dull heart]

am i cooking

[burnt basin]

what is it

[ashen pivot]

yes

yharim's gift

[fierce hearth]

balancing yharim's gift

[prisma cipher]

NOOO WHY NERF MID

(It’s like the third best damage accessory for my playthrough)

[tired adder]

who cares about movement speed at this stage?

[prisma cipher]

NOOO DONT DO JT DOZE

[grave geyser]

the counterweight better be crazy here

[fierce hearth]

Any build running wings instead of boots does

I really felt it when I took off my dash belt in my build

[grave geyser]

boots care more about movement speed than wings

since they scale better

[tired adder]

yes, but it's +5% and same boss gives you wings of rebirth

[fierce hearth]

Scaling better, yes, but the base speed is already so high the reward is kinda lessened

You usually only need so much speed

[ashen pivot]

there's always the magiluminescence if you want move speed

and acceleration

[dull heart]

trust trust

yharims gift nerf is needed

[grave geyser]

magi's benefits only work while grounded

[prisma cipher]

🙏

[prisma cipher]

Shut up

[fierce hearth]

also having something that gives other benefits at that tier of the game is kinda nice

[dull heart]

what happened to yharims gift was actually an idea i saw here a while ago

[grave geyser]

that does not narrow it down at all

[tired adder]

make it create bullet hells and my... fate in cal is yours

[dull heart]

well

"a while"

[tired adder]

idk what the stakes should be

[fierce hearth]

Are you canning the meteors, too? Or just the stupid damage trail?

[silk current]

I never even noticed it did dragon particles stuff

[ashen pivot]

doze said sum about making the meteors homing

[grave geyser]

could mean anything from "earlier today" to "6 months ago"

so

[fierce hearth]

the damage trail was only useful for ramdashes p much

[silk current]

Hell yeah peak

[ashen pivot]

right here

[grave geyser]

I think I might know what the change is gonna be

[tired adder]

yharon son swarmers?

[grave geyser]

draconic swarmer lives on...

[dull heart]

i do not remember saying this

but it is a very me thing to say

[fierce hearth]

EVERYTHING BEES

auric wauce

[dull heart]

wait i should have made it spawn dragon bees

so it gets hive pack

[grave geyser]

this is litterally the context of the message

[dull heart]

Yharim's Gift getting hive pack is like the funniest possible item

yeah ik

[lyric trellis]

Post-Yharon accessory 🔥

[cinder hearth]

Make it true in GFB

[tired adder]

after all, yharon at some point was jungle dragon

[dull heart]

yharims crystal should get hive pack

[cinder hearth]

The real reason yharim likes bees is because the gift from yharon spawned hives

[cunning sequoia]

its yharim's gift to yharon isnt it

i imagined it was like uhh

[grave geyser]

the only reason for this would be if yharim was secretly a bee

[cunning sequoia]

that scene from smiling friends

https://tenor.com/view/smilingfriends-boss-tiny-hands-up-season-2-gif-12296056204251662294

[dull heart]

not if i rework yharims crystal into a bee gun

[grave geyser]

the draconic swarmer

its real

[cunning sequoia]

bee laser

[tired adder]

average lore fan: Yharim was Lihzahrd
rare lore enjoyer: Yharim was Bumblebee

[lyric trellis]

Yharim’s crystal is the funniest and most old cal thing ever, why does yharon drop a last prism and why does yharim have a last prisim why is he mage

[grave geyser]

was yharims crystal given new flavor text alongside the other legendaries

[dull heart]

idk

anyway

low-key might have overtuned yift

but its ok it can be good for once

[grave geyser]

its been shit for so long it might deserve it

was gift ever good

no right

maybe in like, very early cal

[dull heart]

probably when the dragon dust hit every frame

[grave geyser]

so pre bh

[lyric trellis]

Most of them don’t even have one it seems

[grave geyser]

ic

WAIT WHY THE HELL DID GIFT GIVE % DEFENSE

[cunning sequoia]

😭

[dull heart]

wait what

[lyric trellis]

What lmao

[dull heart]

that update it was probably

very good

30% defense is crazy

[silk current]

This is a reference to how mage is the best class as long as you ignore the existence of Melee, Summoner, Ranger and Rogue

[dull heart]

I still can't believe that yharims gift meteors have not worked for

probably 5+ years

[lyric trellis]

Flux, Fury, and Malachite seem to be the only ones?

[dull heart]

and nobody noticed

[cinder hearth]

Wait fr?

They didn't do shit?

[dull heart]

I only noticed today because I was specifically wanting the meteors to show me if iframes were being applied

[dull heart]

Boss iframes don't proc them

[cinder hearth]

Fucked up

[tired adder]

this will calamity titlescreen in 2028

[dull heart]

oh alos

Yharims gift might be insane in death mode now

[cunning sequoia]

it will always be mid to me

[grave geyser]

did you give the meteors difficulty scaling damage

[dull heart]

Yes

[cunning sequoia]

i shall be ignorant to yharim's gift buffs

[cinder hearth]

Tbh the reason why it probably was never noticed is that anyone who would have, knew better than to use it, and those who used it, didn't know any better

[dull heart]

also fun fact the meteors don't even inflict dragonfire... crying

[grave geyser]

did they just randomly vamos at some point

[dull heart]

this accessory gets worse the more I look at it

[dull heart]

Probably due to drata changes

It shares meteors with drata

[grave geyser]

ah did drat lose dfire

[prisma cipher]

I mean yeah they activate with rams so if you somehow get them to land it would be good and yharims gift is allergic to that

Also the dust inflicted it

[grave geyser]

also thank you wiki for being very specific in describing the debuff it used to inflict

[dull heart]

I actually think yift activating on iframes instead of only being hurt is so cool

it sucks that it sucks

[grave geyser]

it is a fairly unique effect

speaking of

you only made it proc on boss iframes right you didnt randomly make it work on spike iframes for no reason

[dull heart]

It already works on spike iframes

I think

[grave geyser]

awesome

this would be meta if this item wasnt fucking dogshit

[dull heart]

But yes it checks now all iframe types

[tired adder]

can it hit SCal?

[dull heart]

why wouldn't it be able to

[prisma cipher]

Maybe one meteor ever

In the history of calamity mod

[dull heart]

she moves around

but yeah if you kite well you can even sometimes hit exo twins with them

I made the spread much larger

anyway merry christmas

[grave geyser]

I had a feeling it was rebuke

aught to be fun

[dull heart]

probably insane on exos

[grave geyser]

also thank god this means we can probably kill gift in testing

[tired adder]

...why it was used?

[dull heart]

it's still a pretty generic stat stick tbf

but rebuke will throw off things

[grave geyser]

because it was the most recent stat stick in progression and it technically did more damage than dsr

[dull heart]

100/400 dps electric debuff woo

[fathom girder]

YAY

[dull heart]

with amalgam it'll be like

[tired adder]

dipper soothe recklace?

[dull heart]

3.2k dps per target lol

on exos

[grave geyser]

dark sun ring

[grave geyser]

seems balanced

[fathom girder]

Yharim's gift now has a reason to be USED

[dull heart]

ares taking a casual 16k

[grave geyser]

remember if rebuke + amalgam is broken that just means rebuke + amalgam is broken

gift is just the symptom :)

[dull heart]

from just existing

[dull heart]

exactly

I feel like yharims gift being able to smite exos is oddly fitting

idk why

[fathom girder]

It does have that vibe

[grave geyser]

it probably goes hard on seekers too

[fathom girder]

"Go, my son, kill the bee hater"

[dull heart]

seekers aren't electric weak so not as insane but probably

[tired adder]

betrayal damage

[dull heart]

Oh and if you add water gun to each ares segment

[grave geyser]

if thana could take debuffs he might just implode

[dull heart]

Flat 20k dps

[fathom girder]

Oml

[cinder hearth]

Fair and balanced.

[tired adder]

hello? based department?

[dull heart]

wait so

Was oracle not tested with amalgam on exos

Because that was a critical oversight

[grave geyser]

probably not

[fathom girder]

It wasn't probably

Oops!

[dull heart]

oracle amalgam is probably insane

[fathom girder]

We can just shove that under the rug...

Yeah it probably is

[grave geyser]

I will probably do void vortex tomorrow

and will check then

[dull heart]

I think honestly

Weakness and resistance system are just too strong

it should go down to .75x and 1.5x probably

or become additive with other boosters

Additive would be lame tho

[grave geyser]

this has pretty much been my thought since you nerfed searing lava ngl

[dull heart]

can't wait to have to give ares a resistance to an accessory now

[dull heart]

yeah

Searing Lava nerf at least thematically makes sense

Searing Lava bypasses obsidian skin

Makes sense to not care about resistance

[lyric trellis]

Reminds me that we used to just always use Affliction then cit was like “use the stat stick upgrades and Affliction probably needs a nerf, but it’s getting reworked soon” and that was 3 years ago

[dull heart]

lol

[tired adder]

does resistance/weakness system even provide visual feedback?

[grave geyser]

affliction needs a nerf is an all timer shark take I think

[dull heart]

yes, the dot numbers are larger or smaller

as in the number itself

otherwise no

[high scaffold]

You can see them in bestiary but that requires a kill

[dull heart]

except burrower!

[high scaffold]

Honestly never noticed

[dull heart]

burrower shows it always as soon as you see one

[dull heart]

Probably bc 2.1 changed how dot numbers show up

[grave geyser]

well I mean tbf a bit over 3 years ago would put it right before 22
so I get why that rework may have not ended up going through

[dull heart]

Pre 2.1 it would only change the rate, not the size

[dull heart]

3 years ago is 2023

[grave geyser]

yes

bit over

[dull heart]

Was 22 late in '22?

Wasn't it like

Summer

[grave geyser]

officially yes

[high scaffold]

Could it use colored damage numbers maybe to show the type of dot and its effectiveness

[grave geyser]

but likely began much earlier

[tired adder]

yeah, like how 90% DR enemies look like

[grave geyser]

the official statement was december 2022

[dull heart]

doesn't make sense with how dots work in terraria

All dots are consolidated into one number

[high scaffold]

Thats a lame one

[dull heart]

Whatever dot had the highest value is what's shown

And the rate will change from the other debuffs

[lyric trellis]

This was like mid-2023/after tiercord was established so definitely not

[grave geyser]

ah

[high scaffold]

So no colored DoT damage numbers unless code rewrite to support it?

[dull heart]

it would basically break the entire way dots work

it's really not feasible

because dots are just life regeneration

unless we flat out made the dots not use the system entirely

[high scaffold]

Does it let life regen be done in big chunks or is it just visuals then?

[dull heart]

chunks

The regen counter of how much the NPC has regenerated fills up until it reaches whatever the dot dmg number is

then it does that and removes that much from it so it loops

[high scaffold]

Like the hemorrhage debuff from 1.4.5 deals 40 damage every 24 ticks

[barren nacelle]

It is done

I have documented every single item you can get through the Astrum Aureus GFB skip

[dull heart]

yeah, and if you stacked Venom with it too that would be 40 damage every 19 ticks instead

[dull heart]

Now account for crossmod

[barren nacelle]

https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/User:Sup.CrispyWasTaken/Sandbox2#Post-Astrum_Aureus

No thank you

:3

[high scaffold]

So unless the DoT system is remade from ground up we wont have any fancy stuff

[dull heart]

yes

the fanciest you'll get is what glaive shred does

Where every time it ticks while glaive shred is applied it does a white slash

[cunning sequoia]

[barren nacelle]

Garbo you let the player get Phaseslayer early if they gamble hard enough

[cunning sequoia]

punishment by god

[high scaffold]

And I assume that remaking DoTs by putting a bunch of timers on npcs wouldnt be a good idea

But maybe DoT groups and sub groups with them calling linked npcs to decrease health

[dull heart]

It'd be fine except bad for crossmod probably

[high scaffold]

That would need to be implemented either into the base game or the tmod

[lyric trellis]

Also this was before all the defensive accessory reworks so it was probably better than almost everything else lmao

[grave geyser]

yknow what fair

[high scaffold]

I wonder if there are any plans for more post DoG offence oriented accessories

Post DoG defensive accessories are kinda busted if you think about it

+25% max health, health regen basicaly unaffected by taking damage, slow hp loss instead of a singular hit which when combined with previous effect basicaly means all incoming damage is reduced and it gives faster potion cd and 3 debuff immunities

[severe coral]

I know it sounds crazy but I will not be opposed if Electric Eel gets annihilated when Calamity reaches 1.4.5

[high scaffold]

And then also a separate 120 hp pool with a pretty fast regeneration that also gives 10% dr

[warm current]

How do I use amputator

Just spam right click buff?

Cuz the option to recall scythe doesn't work when I have all accs on silent

[hollow edge]

Is it just me or did they spruce up Terraprisma to not be as broken?

[lean relic]

gfb is wild

[hollow edge]

Oh they did

[hollow edge]

Slide me the link how to find the vanilla changes

[desert garnet]

calamity vanilla changes

[hollow edge]

thanks

[desert garnet]

or in the change log

[severe coral]

Making the Stardust Dragon's damage a third of it's release damage is so unnecessary

[lean cave]

nah its completely necessary

[desert garnet]

2.1

[tired adder]

provi is probably to the fault

[lean cave]

can't forget deus

[severe coral]

Wait what

[desert garnet]

thats the latest change

[severe coral]

Like

[hollow edge]

There it is, the immunity frames made it feel off

[severe coral]

They have to return like the sanguine bats?

-1 means it's one hit per entity

[hollow edge]

Looks like it

[severe coral]

How's that work

[hollow edge]

It means that it only slashes once

[severe coral]

That's

[desert garnet]

iirc there were issues with iframes of this weapon

[severe coral]

Bruh

[desert garnet]

but i dont remember exacly

but it was smth that made the weapon deal less times it should

[hollow edge]

take into consideration that the terraprisma was made to be a reward for vanilla game

[lean cave]

i think it double hit or something

[severe coral]

🚨 No fun allowed you have to use the modded summons that despawn for no fucking reason 🚨

[lean cave]

[tired adder]

the issue was that caldevs didn't understand how Terraprisma worked

[hollow edge]

with post moon lord content, it would be unfortunate in terms of variety if terraprisma continues to be the go-to summon weapon when there are new bosses and whatnot

[tired adder]

and tried to make it stronger by decreasing iframes

[severe coral]

Just

Remove the damage nerf?!?!

[lean cave]

why

[desert garnet]

^

[brittle escarp]

Does daytime empress attack faster than night time or am I tweaking

[severe coral]

Why fuck with the weapon to make it less powerful and then immediately do something to reempower it

[tired adder]

so with 30 local it could unpredictably double hit enemies

[lean cave]

ayy i remembered!!!

[lean relic]

yeah there was something wrong about iframes of terraprisma before

[severe coral]

So what, it averages out over hundreds of hits and thousands of damage

[tired adder]

also terraprisma was uncommon drop before 2.1

instead of challenge reward

[severe coral]

It's been a nighttime reward forever

[tired adder]

so it was considered to be same level as plague summons or xeno staff

[lean relic]

did you checked the vanilla.........

[desert garnet]

ye

[severe coral]

This ain't vanilla what

Calamity's made Terraprisma drop during the night for years

[hollow edge]

latest update made it a daytime reward again

[brittle escarp]

Is Terraprisma even worth it considering how much harder daytime EoL is than like, cultist, after which you can get pillar gear

[severe coral]

wh

bruh

[brittle escarp]

I feel like there is no way it’s worth it

[desert garnet]

cool weapon

[hollow edge]

still a cool weapon

[brittle escarp]

True

[severe coral]

Uh yes because the dragon deals 20 fuckin damage and summoning more than 1 increases damage by 46%

[lean cave]

i think she's too overtuned rn for it to be worth it imo

[severe coral]

So it's like

9 extra damage per summon

For a post-cultist weapon

[brittle escarp]

They should make it be a component in the Virid Vanguard to justify that weapon being busted lol

[lean cave]

dragon is still like the best summon on deus lol

[severe coral]

I don't even remember what I did my last playthrough

[tired adder]

here's how it looks in vanilla

[gloomy grove]

they moved it back to daytime because its no longer a component of another item why would they make it a component again 💔

[hollow edge]

Either way i don't mind it since it's mostly to balance it and give more options for summoning something else. The igneus Exaltation got a glowup being a sword-like summoning weapon

[brittle escarp]

Because then it’s actually worth doing the challenge

[stark pond]

calamity when first ported to 1.4, terraprisma was so busted it could carry summoner up to providence, so they knock its power down, and because of that, they (maybe fabsol?) place it to EoL global pool

and then vivrid vanguard

[lean relic]

desert tiger mentioned

[tired adder]

dragon wins out because moon lord is unagile fatass

[severe coral]

Wait what

wtf

[tired adder]

so dragon can just lay down on ML's bodyparts

[brittle escarp]

What the hell is that desert tiger cooking

[hollow edge]

Exaltation shredded Destroyer despite so many buffs in tankiness.

[stark pond]

now that both are out of the question it gets its iframed fixed (presumably)

it is

normal for desert tiger

is it not

i mean you're putting like

[severe coral]

Wait I gotta math this out...

12 slots...

[stark pond]

12-ish minion slots into one tiger

[brittle escarp]

Yeah but it shouldn’t scale that hard I don’t think

[stark pond]

could be more with dark sun ring

[severe coral]

Yeah 12 cuz 10 from gear and bewitching grants an extra

[brittle escarp]

10 from demonshade, 5 from accessories, 1 from bewitching, 1 from potion ?

so 17 max I think?

Something like that

[lyric trellis]

She’s on crack lmao

[severe coral]

251% of 41 damage is 102

[stark pond]

49 in cal

[severe coral]

102 plus uhh

[lean cave]

its so funny

[severe coral]

That motherfucker should only deal like ~450 damage what

[tired adder]

I presume this is same case for Providence and Astrum Deus

[lean cave]

best time to get it is if you do folly then yharon first then you do empress imo

[severe coral]

Duuuude

[brittle escarp]

Is that including accessories and armor and potions and rage and adrenaline and shattered community shenanigans and enrage?

There are like a billion damage buffs post game

[severe coral]

Not enough for, separate from those 2 boosts, to multiply the damage by 6

[brittle escarp]

What whips/eye of magnus

*and

[lyric trellis]

It’s worth it, ignore the possibility of getting Kindle Staff which is just better

[severe coral]

The absolute perfect build could maybe get the desert tiger to like 1000

[lyric trellis]

Or anything else

[severe coral]

Like so focused into just a damage value that it's impractical

[brittle escarp]

Probably shatter community rage then

That’s my guess

Huge damage boost from that over a borderline indefinite time

[severe coral]

There's just no way

[hot pebble]

One day I was playing the guitar. And I won.

[lean cave]

a tier > c tier ong

[hot pebble]

In this chat, this line has more context.

[tired adder]

but the clip doesn't use rage

[desert garnet]

the clip uses tiger

[severe coral]

It's literally just not possible

[desert garnet]

and big amount of slots

[tired adder]

have you tried, though

[severe coral]

I just know there's no way I'm not making that build rn

[desert garnet]

they are using god mode so they dont need to worry about mobility and defensive accs

[lyric trellis]

https://tenor.com/view/fig-gif-26092737

[grave rock]

can i ask how do ppl kill sepulcher, i thought it was meant to be unkillable outside of shooting the hearts?

[severe coral]

Yeah wait that too

[lean cave]

unfortunately its how it works

[grave rock]

i heard dragon's rage can kill it also

[lean cave]

smhing my head

[desert garnet]

isnt it infernum?

[stark pond]

it's infernum btw

[severe coral]

I haven't done that in a while

[lyric trellis]

Ignore that Terraprisma is especially arbitrary and nothing is stopping it from going into E tier instead because day empress is so ass

[lean cave]

lowkey its f cuz its impossible to get

[burnt basin]

OMG HOW LONG DO THESE GO FOR. I JUST WANNA BUILD

[lyric trellis]

Wdym it’s a guaranteed drop smh

That easy

[severe coral]

You can use the arid artifact to get rid of it iirc

Or zen pot

Or tranq candle

[lean cave]

wait true use cannonball jellyfish ong

[grave rock]

sand sharks r so annoying

[lean cave]

or turn it to classic

[lyric trellis]

Peak answer

[burnt basin]

im gonna get arid art cause its been going on for so long i killed so many sharks

[lyric trellis]

Didn’t even consider that you can just do this lmao

[lean cave]

but thats LAME

for NERDS

[lyric trellis]

Maybe it needs a nerf after all

[lean cave]

one damage nerf

[lyric trellis]

Explode

[lean cave]

[stone zephyr]

like the thing below expert mode … forgot expert isnt like the default

[lean cave]

chud expert difficulty life

[stone zephyr]

i haventactually played terraria in ages though i just obsess over niche things involving it

[lyric trellis]

When is cal adding the normal mode difficulty equivalent

[stone zephyr]

i mean cant you just play without revengeance

idk never thought about that too much

[lean cave]

all bosses are neutral until you attack

[lyric trellis]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/512927576914788352/1158619878228500570/zyGJVnA3.gif

[lean cave]

this but with grand dad

[grave rock]

wtf is the horrible hog

[tired adder]

cal no longer increases health and damage in vanilla difficulties

[barren nacelle]

Don’t say his name here

[severe coral]

?

[boreal pewter]

Everyone actually seemed to like Basher so I made it a bit nicer (and also right click effect is MANDATORY now)

[hollow edge]

The amphibian's guitar makes alot of visual noise.

[lyric trellis]

No way xyk rework scaling with size? (Idk if this one already did)

[boreal pewter]

it did not before

[opal pebble]

nail from hollow knight

🥺

[lyric trellis]

Nycro donor item

[boreal pewter]

it'll be real on day

5

[gloomy grove]

are you gonna let the swords scale with melee size

[boreal pewter]

maybe...

[grave rock]

why does the bat have special particles

[boreal pewter]

just some green dusts for thematics because its an acid rain tier 1 item

[opal pebble]

aura

[grave rock]

thats it, thats the last straw

basher vfx ruined calamity...

[lyric trellis]

Green is good

[late eagle]

YEEEEESSSS I LOVE BASHER🥹

[stone zephyr]

looks pretty cool :D

[placid ocean]

add some kinda effect that makes it seem more powerful like with old lord claymore please

[lapis oak]

nice one Xyk!

[old garden]

g

[blissful verge]

Actually I drew the tiles sometime before but never submitted them bc I didn't want to sheet them

[placid ocean]

fuck who do i ping

good riddance

[blissful verge]

Tho maybe cal team will do their own

[placid ocean]

can someone tell me who do i ping if i see stuff like that

cuz i genuinely dont know

like a role or smth

[blissful verge]

Prolly mods if it was a spam message idk

[placid ocean]

no but like who exactly

nvm i had member list disabled

[blissful verge]

I dunno just ping a role

[dusk bronze]

dm the staff mail bot

[placid ocean]

i had member list disabled so i didnt see stuff

[dusk bronze]

don't ping anyone

[placid ocean]

ok

also i like framing so i framed that guy

[blissful verge]

Cool system

[blazing field]

finally ...

brainstorm tme

and then when my gf wakes up we'll play the fables update rahh

maybe spooky mod too ive been wanting to play that one for a while

[pale minnow]

oo oo oo

u & ur girlfriend sitting in a tree

k-i-s-s-i-n-g

[arctic patrol]

[late eagle]

Hmm I should play spooky mod too🤔

Looks like a really cool mod

There are so many mods that I want to play, and I still have a huge catalog of games that I haven't played yet😭

[hidden belfry]

Some recommended Calamity Enthropy, mod had some sick weapons but holy hell is the final super boss laggy as hell

[stone fiber]

I see

[hidden belfry]

Fables got updated? Wonder what they changed/added...

[dusk bronze]

just a new summon weapon afaik

[hidden belfry]

Where does it drop?

Or

Whom does it drop from

[dusk bronze]

idk

[vivid hemlock]

the update added like 6 weapons 3 enemies and a helmet

[vivid hemlock]

you craft it with clay and something else i think

called bucket of yoblins

[dusk bronze]

zamn

[blazing field]

nah theres alot more

oh

chat didnt load moment

the summon weapon is just the like. icon of the update kinda like brain of chtulhu for brainstorm

[blazing field]

spelunker scarab 🩷

[hollow harness]

yoblins ❤️

[vivid hemlock]

blizzard spirit my beloved

[hollow harness]

also new dart ammo

supercharged dart ❤️

[vivid hemlock]

yeah they have four darts now

fables carrying the dart economy

[dusk bronze]

dart expansions? in MY tmodloader????

[hollow harness]

thorium and fables carrying dart economy

[vivid hemlock]

4 darts and 2 dart weapons inthink

[dusk bronze]

preposterous. 50 more bullets

[blazing field]

electric darts and evil homing darts

[hollow harness]

just Toxic Blowpipe

[blazing field]

there's another one

added in yoblin update p sure

[hollow harness]

oh yea Opulent Dartgun

[blazing field]

ive been playing brainstorm (with frameskip on 😭 i can atleast play calamity again but it is rather slow on this laptop,,, ill contact the technician again to talk wtih him abt it) and

its

uncanny

to hear the new wulfrum hit sounds

[hasty hawk]

I need to also play Fables again

last time I did it was very buggy but all bugs were fixed and then Yoblin update came out

[blazing field]

that shit was made for roy but then brim went ahead and sent them in calart for basecal too 😭 😭

everytime i hear the wulfrum hit sounds i get whiplash

[late eagle]

Roy should absorb the calamity team and make an AAAAAA calamity game trust

With microtransactions

And nft's

[grim pecan]

battle pass? you might be on to something...

[quiet spade]

i just saw this screenshot

[late eagle]

Very evil game

[quiet spade]

and damn

[hollow harness]

God damnn

[quiet spade]

desert scourge has lose some weight

[hollow harness]

The old wulfrum set

[quiet spade]

plastic set

[late eagle]

One day... One day he will gain his fat again...

[quiet spade]

give my wom fella some food

waiting for the sso is taking its toll on him

[late eagle]

Damn now that we won't have SSO for the time being, we mere white names won't ever see the fat gecko scourge full sprite😢

I was excited for that...

[fathom girder]

hello wulfrum pickaxe

[blazing field]

he'll become real later its ok

the fatass lizard will be real .... eventually

[stone fiber]

Huh?

[late eagle]

Reign of yharim

Calamity fan game

[blazing field]

play reign of yharim! play it now

(its not out

[hasty hawk]

TRUE

[hasty hawk]

(cosmetics only that can be obtained with regular gameplay)

[hasty hawk]

Fuck you

RoY is has very nice concepts, cant wait for it to be out

[deft lily]

reign of yharim

more like

uhhh

reign of... mid?

yeah that

[twin bloom]

Rain of Yharim

[summer shore]

Risk of yharim

[high scaffold]

Calamity tomorrow

Maybe

I want to belive

Astral bulwark update

[late eagle]

:(

[fathom girder]

marathon's tomorrow

I'm gonna be playing marathon tomorrow

[dull heart]

Hmm

Galileo Gladius not being marked as true melee

Means it probably can get Bloodthirsty

[fathom girder]

The throw is probably why

can it get tainted? or is it too weird for that

[dull heart]

Only use style 1 things get tainted

[fathom girder]

didn't realize orderbringer was a use style 1 sword

[high scaffold]

Honestly, I would love to see calamity having smaller but regular updates

[dull heart]

No, it'd just be because it's not true melee dmg type

[fathom girder]

oe

[dull heart]

I think that's the only check Bloodthirsty has

[high scaffold]

Like minecraft drops, one every season

[fathom girder]

I never quite understood how true melee was determined, if it was a projectile check or if it was just something you guys determined manually

[late eagle]

That's the idea tho

[fathom girder]

Pretty sure that's what they're tryna do now yes

[solemn crest]

I feel like it’s determined manually bc of there was a time period where the Ultimus Cleaver was classified as true melee even though it very much is not a true melee weapon

[fathom girder]

yeahhh it probably is

[high scaffold]

Isnt inferna cutter true melee too for some reason

[solemn crest]

Not anymore I don’t believe

[high scaffold]

Ye, wiki says its regular melee now

Also triggers summoner penalty since 2.1

[fathom girder]

aw

[polar tide]

scourge rework is not necessarily sso content lol

[dusk bronze]

?

[fathom girder]

it was implied at the time

that'd be nice to see at an earlier time tho

[high scaffold]

Is scourge still planned to become a lizard?

[fathom girder]

Might start making underground arenas for lizard scourge at that

[polar tide]

yes

the sprite isnt going anywhere

[fathom girder]

lizard scourge was post fabsol wasn't it

cuz there's no way fab greenlit that

[polar tide]

genuinely i dont rember

[fathom girder]

a good sign that his influences are fading already

[dusk bronze]

yes

the pre fabdeath one was the pineapple fuck

[high scaffold]

Unless you cook insanely unbelievably hard Ill stick to preferring the worm version

[mystic eagle]

Not even 2 weeks after

[fathom girder]

luhmao

[polar tide]

once the rework is out you will look like a fool if you still prefer the worm version

thats all ill say

[dull heart]

it's a damage type like melee / ranged / summon / etc

[fathom girder]

I see

[high scaffold]

I doubt that

[dull heart]

like any damage type both items and projectiles get it

Gladius projectiles are marked true melee but not the item

Meaning it'll get on hit true melee things like hide of deus stars

[fathom girder]

ohhh ok

[dull heart]

But it won't get true melee dmg boosts or count as it for tainted

[fathom girder]

that is weird

[high scaffold]

I got the auric thinking cap, no way you making me believe that lizard scourge is better then worm

[dull heart]

it is

[fathom girder]

(Golden tinfoil hat)

[dull heart]

It's significantly better it's not even close

[tropic jolt]

⚡

[fathom girder]

oh wait, it's already like

[tropic jolt]

your brain is storming

[fathom girder]

basically there?

that's crazy

[dull heart]

worm vs bendy scourge who would win

[polar tide]

bro been eating roadkill scraps for so long they're afraid of juicy steak and buttery lobster

[high scaffold]

I will wait untill the mod that reverts the scourge change come out and install it instantly

[dull heart]

crazy

[fathom girder]

oh

[high scaffold]

You thought I was joking about the auric thinking cap?

[polar tide]

will u be installing the "undo the exos rework" mod when the time comes for that too

[dull heart]

too bad undo scourge mod probably won't exist

[fathom girder]

no it absolutely will

[high scaffold]

Nah, exos suck

[dull heart]

go my copyright

[deft lily]

weird remark but sure you do you

[fathom girder]

you don't OWN that sprite anymore

that's like

...

isn't that what happened I forget

[lyric trellis]

We’re all installing this alongside the yharon resprite undoer

[dull heart]

ok sorry go my heart and bird's copyright

[tropic jolt]

truth nuke!

[fathom girder]

there we go

[high scaffold]

There will maybe be a mod that will replace lizard scourge with fables scourge

[dull heart]

that's called

[frail owl]

meow

[dull heart]

Calamity: Fables

[deft lily]

im going to install the refabsol mod once it comes out
-oh wait!

[tropic jolt]

you can just enable fables 💀

[fathom girder]

WAIT

maybe fabsol will make his own calamity offshoot

[rotund venture]

for us to judge lizard scourge it needs to implented first

[fathom girder]

there's like a 20% chance that happens

[tropic jolt]

calamity fabulous

[rotund venture]

and that's only five fargo years away

[high scaffold]

Calamity fabled

[deft lily]

Calamity fabful

[fathom girder]

Fab^2

[dull heart]

Calamity: Fabulous

[deft lily]

calamity bigotful

[fierce nebula]

Tuff

[tropic jolt]

calamity STRAIGHT

[pulsar cobalt]

valkyrie summon from aerospec summoner armour is my best friend

[deft lily]

true

[dull heart]

What if I kill him

[tired adder]

but how?

[polar tide]

im sleepy

[deft lily]

straight people are evil

[tropic jolt]

no woke nonsense…

[deft lily]

evil

[pulsar cobalt]

what if i kill you huh

[fathom girder]

wdym how

[deft lily]

does he know

[fathom girder]

He may be shit but he can still make

[tropic jolt]

death by 500 lotus petals

[deft lily]

unfortunately

[fathom girder]

nothing's stopping him from making his own shitty calamity addon

overhaul-esque

[deft lily]

bro needs to delete discord and get help

but ik that wont happen

[pulsar cobalt]

we dont deserve fab

[fathom girder]

Chances for that are slim given he's only doubled down after this

despite everything only improving since

[tropic jolt]

we deserve 40 more worm bosses

[lapis oak]

Too good for Cal community

[deft lily]

yep...

hes too good for the cal community..