calamity-update-talk

[vocal kelp]

no yeah u have

[dusk bronze]

there's an entire giant disclaimer that says everything is subject to change

[barren nacelle]

I do like the wall of bullshit devs have said I do think it serves some value

[vocal kelp]

yeah but like, lol

[still bluff]

Every single thing a dev has ever said is future content

[polar tide]

to answer your question i guess no. i'm not. none of the devs are ever kept in the dark about future plans. i cannot share details about the future distortion update with any degree of confidence because it is so far out from anything we have planned right now that any "plans" we have for it currently are pretty much irrelevant

[earnest jewel]

Add that Louie will be coming in the Louie update.

[dusk bronze]

[earnest jewel]

The real future content is the friends we made along the way.

[frozen horizon]

Okay that makes more sense.

[polar tide]

like outside of the absolute most barebones information like "the distortion will be a subworld that you will be able to visit" literally anything i say would hold as much water as a random speculating on what we might add

[still bluff]

Especially with the fabdeath all the concepts can actually be properly planned when we get to the update instead of having to know what we want wayyy in advance so he can't fuck it up by making something dumb instead

[dusk bronze]

will you be adding distorted dave

[vocal kelp]

then again with calamity, specially back then, like, we were literally not getting spoilers/teasers (outside of like iban sharing concept art sometimes), those were basically exclusively for the patreon sever. it made sense to gather as much information as possible in a single place because like, most of those were known plans, always talked about, but there was central resource for that, it's like, part of why it was made like it was. Like, basically everything was sourced directly to whatever discord message

[polar tide]

this mod would be fucking dead if we didn't add distorted dave. yes, of course.

[distant raft]

will there be a distortion themed amusement park as a tie-in?

[earnest jewel]

Get this in the doc, and include me in the screenshot.

[vivid hemlock]

id kill you irl

[fringe trellis]

depends whether the boss has more significant defense or damage reduction. generally crumbling will be better due to lategame damage #s caring about flat defense less but for some bosses where they have 0 DR (e.g. yharon after brainstorm has 0 DR) ichor would do more

[steel pike]

what about cal a. mitas

[earnest jewel]

:(

[steel pike]

Calvin Alvin Mitas

[earnest jewel]

Cal E. Mighty will return, some day.

[frozen horizon]

Who's that?

[earnest jewel]

Cal E. Mighty.

Mysterious mage. Sells goods.

[steel pike]

Is this real

[polar tide]

this is part of the thing that also makes sso in such an awkward position right now there's been like 7 generations of devs (exaggeration for comedic effect) working on it and i know for sure at least i as a single concept artist do not share the exact same vision as the 10 million since dead artists who were working on it previously

[vocal kelp]

also the doc was literally made for a competition where the rubric was to gather the Calamity Plans so ofc we dumped al our knowledge on it

[radiant flower]

oh wow thanks, is there a way to check dr outside of wiki? infernum doesnt have them listed

[steel pike]

Idk that hair looks a lil fake

[earnest jewel]

Rubric... this is a sign.

[still bluff]

Yea there's been like 3 full artist turnovers basically except triangle

[vocal kelp]

pre 22 sunken sea update spoiler: amidias' shop will be replaced with trading! (this was the prize)

[steel pike]

The mustache and the nose look ok tho

[polar tide]

triangle is the only fucking survivor bro

in terms of artists working on the sunken sea

[fringe trellis]

not to my knowledge no

[grave rock]

distortion concept art leak

[vivid hemlock]

downvote

[earnest jewel]

That's just England.

[hollow harness]

Birmingham

[polar tide]

@pseudo vector confirm?

[radiant flower]

rip. id imagine the difference cant be that big tho, i'll just default to crumbling

[hollow harness]

That fucking shithole

[polar tide]

idk if hes even awake rn

[grave rock]

i love lying

[hollow root]

wiki recommend calamari's lament but i remember ethereal subjugator being a BANGER. which is better?

[hollow harness]

Experiment

[dusk bronze]

he's been playing ultrakill for 53 seconds

[still bluff]

The distortion is going back to just being rain world btw

[obtuse hawk]

would this be what the distortion feels like

[earnest jewel]

Whatever your heart says.

[obtuse hawk]

squidistortion

[earnest jewel]

The Distortion should just be Terraria, but upside down and with the colours inverted.

[still bluff]

You will go through the portal and rain world will launch and that's just the whole dimension

[polar tide]

genuinely this is what my vision for it is similar to. i want to say yes. this is a yes on behalf of me and none of the other devs

[hollow root]

also are Sirius and the Moon Fist good?

[frozen horizon]

Ain't that a secret seed?

[steel pike]

🔺

[earnest jewel]

Adding to future doc: Squidward will be in the Distortion.

[obtuse hawk]

it could just be an inspiration idk

[grave rock]

the distortion needs to be on some Fraud Ultrakill timing

[obtuse hawk]

squidward!!!!!!

[dusk bronze]

true

[steel pike]

Dude lowkey I have had a similar vision with one of my own projects

Something about the white void is just

Terrifying

[tropic jolt]

dont you just hate it when signus splays the gore of your profaned form across the stars

[polar tide]

i have a very specific vision for the distortion that will remain inside of my brain for now because dev is not at all at a point yet where we can begin seriously discussing what the distortion will llook like

[frozen horizon]

Distortion is probably non-Euclidian.

[vocal kelp]

fun calamity content doc faq: the person that made the other one for the challenge is stips

[earnest jewel]

Purple.

[polar tide]

all i will say is that i desperately want it to be some yume nikki shit

[obtuse hawk]

odious squid

[earnest jewel]

I didn't play Earthbound...

[grave rock]

signus is the new wing gaster

[pseudo vector]

yeah

sorry i was playing ultrakill

[polar tide]

i'll forgive you but god may not be so merciful

[sudden cairn]

peak

[vocal kelp]

you can implement this now, do it
(you have the power)

[grave rock]

fraud is so peak i also havent finished it cuz motion sickness

[polar tide]

@brazen slate they're talking about you

[lean relic]

🫵

[brazen slate]

hi

[polar tide]

hi bro

[vocal kelp]

reminded of the time leon implied there was a fourth biome and we added it to the doc

[brazen slate]

old render spotted

[vocal kelp]

it turned out to be the green

[earnest jewel]

Was it Tundra?

[dusk bronze]

forge for caldev 2026

[brazen slate]

oh god this is a REALLY old render

[vocal kelp]

no it was the green

[earnest jewel]

...purity?

[vocal kelp]

no, perennial biome

[brazen slate]

am i allowed to save face by posting a newer render

[polar tide]

yes

[lean relic]

oh yeah i remember

[polar tide]

you can do whatever you want

[strong isle]

Seeing this revived is quite the surprise, and so is you agreeing with a proposed feature

[vocal kelp]

stips this was back in the big 22 it's like an old friend

[frozen horizon]

I've always wondered by Perennial stuff needs Life Shards.

[vocal kelp]

(we were backr eading on the lore doc stuff

[strong isle]

That said, with the current team, I'd rather wait and have a better implementation than hastily add something

I see

[earnest jewel]

Did someone say lore doc!?

[lean relic]

oh god look at this man's eye

[dusk bronze]

lore

[vocal kelp]

future plans are lore

[polar tide]

im so glad caldev does not operate like a bunch of people sitting in a room in separate cubicles doing their own thing with no communication

[dusk bronze]

cough minecraft

[earnest jewel]

Yes, look into my eye, I am Sans Undertale.

[frozen horizon]

Valve 2010-2020?

[polar tide]

ough im hungry

[obtuse hawk]

burgar

[frozen horizon]

Burger.

[lean relic]

how hungry.............

[frozen horizon]

🍔

[dusk bronze]

[strange cargo]

So hungry I could eat a horse

[polar tide]

i will not be getting burgar today as much as i'd like to

[sudden cairn]

🐎

[strong isle]

Funnily enough, that's like a week after I became a tester

[frozen horizon]

pizzer

[polar tide]

umhngnhgnrhgngr... pizza....

its like 30 bucks thoughhh

[dusk bronze]

da mn

[strong isle]

?

[vocal kelp]

u made the other one

yours was centered more on the theory part

it's up there but we do have it downloaded

[lean relic]

wait lets try other one

how hungy........

[polar tide]

spending all my ozzabucks on pizza and burgers like a real red blooded american

[twin mural]

How many devs are there currently

[polar tide]

1

[strong isle]

Oh, I remember this
So it was you who also participated

[twin mural]

I mean for the entire mod

Rn

[polar tide]

1

[twin mural]

Oh

[rare tinsel]

2 now

[earnest jewel]

That's right, I am John Calamity.
I arbitrate the mod.

[twin mural]

Peak

[rare tinsel]

imm a new hire

[obtuse hawk]

i think i can count that on my fingers

[vocal kelp]

yes, it was me and fryzza on The Doc yeah

[polar tide]

they're multiplying.

[earnest jewel]

Welcome to Calamity Inc.

[dusk bronze]

last count is 37

[earnest jewel]

Go slay the unbelievers.

[vocal kelp]

we were useful for the doc because we remembered everything!

[rare tinsel]

On it boss

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/412104907550621708/1430713935186628648/6ooDk1f.gif

[polar tide]

real talk though its 30 something

[earnest jewel]

Great, you may get a promotion.

[polar tide]

you can look at thheee thank you painting

[dusk bronze]

this number was decreed by the triangular one like last month

[steel pike]

Burger?

BURGER?

Your last name…

[polar tide]

thank you painting should be currently up to date with all active devs rn

[steel pike]

Is BURGER?

[obtuse hawk]

calamity burger

[twin mural]

Hello John Calamity do you have any idea if Yharon will be added as a rideable mount

[steel pike]

burgamity

[gloomy grove]

curger

[steel pike]

Lowkey a rideable boss mount (temporarily) would be a sick idea

[vocal kelp]

that one time ozzatron mentioned a unique darksun event, rover mentioning the sky temple still being a thing out of nowhere in sugg discs, ozzatron mentioning the nanoblack set and the demon trophy rework and like a bunch of developers talking about yharmy

[steel pike]

Imagine being able to control DoG for like 10 minutes

[strong isle]

Fun times

[twin mural]

Supreme Meal, Calaburger

[vocal kelp]

we remember shit that never made it to the doc like abyss turtle but everybody knows about abyss turtle

[steel pike]

Would it make sense? Fuck no

But it would be so rad

[brazen slate]

took Ten Fucking Years to render but this is what it actually sounds like please ignore the old one
the good part starts at like 7:30 and i don't care much for any of the other sections

[vocal kelp]

what we're surprised of is that it only was 6 months before the 22

[steel pike]

If calamitas was a burger where would she be from

[vocal kelp]

like wow, really just

6

6 months

that crazy

[obtuse hawk]

i didn't

[polar tide]

people talk about 22 like how people talk about 9/11

[twin mural]

The Exo-Burgers

[earnest jewel]

When Redditors are grateful.

[strange cargo]

Whats the 22

[frozen horizon]

This official?

[brazen slate]

no

[twin mural]

😭

[vocal kelp]

hey 22 is like a crucial event to our existence in the calamity community

[steel pike]

Either the age or 2022 im guessing

[twin mural]

Thank you for the answer John Calamity

[steel pike]

What happened in 2022

[brazen slate]

dev exodus in 2022 if i'm not mistaken

[steel pike]

I need the lore

[hollow harness]

Yea the 22 refers to the masive developer exodus in 2022

[vocal kelp]

very much not just a thing that happened with no consequences!

[fathom girder]

QUICK SOMEONE POST 22

[earnest jewel]

The incident...

[dusk bronze]

22 devs left at the same time in december 2022 due to fabsol being a shithead

[twin mural]

Which year was worse for calamity development
2020 or 2022

[polar tide]

near the end of 2022 around 21 devs left the team becuase soem bullshit that i wasnt around for idk something about testers being treated poorly

[steel pike]

Damn

[frozen horizon]

Wait that was 2022?

[polar tide]

i dont think actually 22 devs left i think thats a joke

[strange cargo]

Dang

[dusk bronze]

shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[vocal kelp]

22 would eventually leave

[hollow harness]

it was like 23 I think

[vocal kelp]

more than 22 actually

[hollow harness]

eventually

[steel pike]

Shit sounds like it straight out of 1800s labor unions

[twin mural]

It was 70 calazillion

[vocal kelp]

anyways they left because of a compounding force of the fabsol

[frozen horizon]

Are those the ones that went on to make Fables?

[vocal kelp]

old duke was like a catalyst, a calamity

[still bluff]

Everyone hated fabsol (especially iban and the other artists), a bunch of the leavers also were heavily against testers being considered full devs

[vocal kelp]

yes

[sudden cairn]

cant believe 22 devs left in 22/22/2222

[twin mural]

.

[vocal kelp]

nothing happened in 2020

[gloomy grove]

not all of them

[steel pike]

22 devs sacrificed to the soul of John calamity

[vocal kelp]

if anything that was a great year

because quarantine

[grave rock]

may i ask why

[polar tide]

i could ping cd again since he was there but i dont want to subject him to 3 billion calmain pings

[vocal kelp]

because fabsol sucks balls next topic

[grave rock]

about the second part, i mean

[still bluff]

Because fabsol sucked, no idea about the othe half
I wasnt around then

[steel pike]

Fabsol did some bad stuff to knowledge and has no like remorse for it

[blazing field]

because i mean

fabsol was a massive restriction on creativity

[steel pike]

to my knowledge*

[blazing field]

artists couldnt do fucfking anything they wanted to bc he wouldnt let them

[twin mural]

i read in this chat people were being banned for asking if some whips would be added and idk if it's true

[grave rock]

I know about the horse!!!! i was asking abt the testers part

[steel pike]

Y not?

[polar tide]

fabsol undervalued testers or something

[lean relic]

too much that i cant read lol

[vocal kelp]

the tester thing we know a little about, basically some testers didnt like the division because they felt there was a lack of communication going on, ultimately it didnt really matter because the problem was fabsol talking about shit completely outside of dev spaces anyway

[polar tide]

cuz he sucks

[blazing field]

Oh the second part

[dusk bronze]

that is likely fabricated

[blazing field]

He was hte owner of the mod

he didn't let them

there was not much of a good reason he was just a dick

[steel pike]

Yeah but like did he ever say why

[hollow harness]

False

[steel pike]

Oh lol

[dusk bronze]

because he was a dick

[steel pike]

[blazing field]

I assume it's because testers are well

[lean relic]

misinformation
Also devs will add whips in SSO pt2

[blazing field]

testers

[twin mural]

I'm glad I could beat the Drunk Princess npc to death before it got removed

[strong isle]

Tbf the tester division wasn't great and I'm glad it's no longer a thing; it just wasn't the elephant in the room, yeah

[polar tide]

if you're unfamiliar with fabsol then i'm sorry but the reason for him vetoeing so much shit genuinely is JUST because hes a huge dick

[steel pike]

😭😭😭

[strange cargo]

Guys holy shit do NOT buy copper from Ea-Nasir

[vocal kelp]

anwyays it sjust crazy to me the doc got created only half a year prior to the 22 cuz it felt like i had been mantaining it for an eternity and my interest on mantaining it very much fell off after it happened (Had to fucking remove everything! and it stayed that way for a while)

[dusk bronze]

whips will probably be in the summoner rework

[polar tide]

ive heard stories from so many devs where they'd be discussing something to add to the modd and fabsol would just drop in out of nowhere to be like "i'm never going to approve this btw"

[still bluff]

Whips will be added whenever great summoner rebalance is stable enough to need the new ones

[steel pike]

First fabsol then Kanye 2022 really was like 9/11

I’m so glad I was a stupid kid

[deft lily]

yep same here

[still bluff]

There isn't a single update they're definitely coming in

[wary crest]

😭

[steel pike]

And didn’t know shit

[dusk bronze]

yeah i heard he would just appear
say no
and then leave 😭

[steel pike]

Campfire stories of this guy 😭😭😭

[misty wren]

that was like one dude and that wasnt because of him discussing whips its because he was very abrasive and rude

[steel pike]

With like the flashlight under the face

[deft lily]

fab was a huge asshole to everyone and i have little to no sympathy for him

idgaf if he improves his life or not he needs to get tf off the internet

[vocal kelp]

Famously ,iban developed sir nautilus in broad devlight with approval of everyone ever until the very end where fabsol was like NOPE! and pretended he didn't know about it despite it being discussed and shared plenty of times

[strong isle]

It was jawdropping to see the immediate aftermath of Fab's leave
Ideasguying to a degree I didn't think would ever happen lol

[strong isle]

Indeed

[gloomy grove]

this was the final straw iirc

[steel pike]

Yeezus quite literally was 10 years ahead of its time not just in production but because it predicted that shit happening

[obtuse hawk]

literally this

[strong isle]

I'm fairly sure there was a period where he left the dev server at that time, or near it

[polar tide]

i wasnt in dev obviously but ive never seen the community so united since

[steel pike]

LOL

With the Negan theme playing in the back

[still bluff]

Best part about fabdeath for me was all the rlly old people in the community reviving briefly lmao

[frozen horizon]

Wait, Sir Nautilus wasn't only from Fables?

[vocal kelp]

also like we got invited to fables testing like 6 days after thanks to the doc so its like Crossroads of Destiny kind of thing

[hollow harness]

He did leave dev server like multiple times pre-22 and post-22 I think

[misty wren]

rover said in suggdisc the other day that iban leaving was because fabsol got scared he was too good and kicking him out

[still bluff]

Like the original dev exodus

[steel pike]

Are there like 93 year olds playing calamity or

Oh nvm

Not that type of old

[polar tide]

a dude so hated that when he died several people rose from the dead to join the celebration

[obtuse hawk]

ngl testing sounds kinda fun

[strong isle]

Keep in mind, I was a tester back then and I still knew about Nautilus development
Testers didn't have access to the actual development channels
It's something that was shown even to the more casual tester channels

[vocal kelp]

he was made for calamity

[sudden cairn]

no its all old cancelled concepts

[still bluff]

$50 for auric beta testing

[steel pike]

What was like fabsols response to all this

[misty wren]

which i would believe because rover was a dev at that time

[strange cargo]

👵

[steel pike]

Was he like just “fuck you” and left

[hollow harness]

He got pissed obviously

[gloomy grove]

the entire idea of overhauling Sunken Sea came from iban's side im pretty sure

[still bluff]

(Immediately before updates only)

[grave rock]

i could never test 😭 from my understanding testing involves lots of playing in intentionally weird ways

[hollow harness]

He did make like shit status message statements that are oughhh

[strange cargo]

sso NEVER

[misty wren]

tried to deny it, got very angry, at least half the dev team got him into a call and told him in no uncertain terms that if he didnt leave everybody else would

[strong isle]

"This is not a miniboss"
"I'm never letting you add this"
Something like that

[vocal kelp]

testing is really easy you just play the game

[lean relic]

tomorrow is another day

[polar tide]

i'd love to test but i'm not sure as a tester i could provide anything that we don't already have in droves in dev lol

[still bluff]

More people playing major content to give feedback is always good tbf

[steel pike]

Yeesh

[deft lily]

true

[polar tide]

[still bluff]

Its not a super high barrier of entry on that side XD

[deft lily]

i give excellent feedback

[steel pike]

I was right abt remorse

no remorse*

[twin mural]

Fabsol expulsion from the Cal dev team, 2025, colorized

[grave rock]

im also rly bad at criticizing games ill just ignore gamebreaking bugs 😭

[steel pike]

😭😭😭😭

[blazing field]

the funniest shit ever is fabsol's steam bio

[strong isle]

I would intentionally test bosses even when seriously busy in other roles to make sure they didn't suck

[deft lily]

i think every weapon in cal should be removed

[blazing field]

why is fabsol literally yharim dude

[lean relic]

how many testers in cal currently

[blazing field]

hes LITERALLY yahrim

[deft lily]

TRUE LMAO

[obtuse hawk]

if i was a dev i'd be making concept art but carny already fills that role iirc

[strong isle]

The ones I contributed most to were Guardians and Plantera

[blazing field]

" youcant change the past, you can forget about it and move the fuck on "

• guy who cant move on

[vocal kelp]

our experience with fables testing is basically just like interacting with the content and mind you we're far from the most thorough but really everything helps specially when it comes to reporting issues. we also translate the mod to spanish as testing betas come out so its ready for release though so that does kill my attention a lot

[dusk bronze]

~12

[steel pike]

Maybe that’s how he came to be

[vocal kelp]

yes it is

[still bluff]

The balancing side we have enough experienced people, but raw numbers from the rest of the team to stress test everything else is always good

[grave rock]

ive heard of the iconic horse discord statuses

[blazing field]

no yeah p sure it was

original yharim

before any of the lore rewrites

[steel pike]

“You can forget about it and move on” dude there’s no growth from you though

[blazing field]

was fabsols self insert or smth wasn't he

😭

[tropic jolt]

✍️

[deft lily]

also the guy in question:

[strong isle]

I also set up a boss feedback google doc for developers to present their feedback in a public, organized manner so it was less easy to use the excuse of not seeing said feedback, and to expose vetos of course

[blazing field]

And coincidentally, current lore yharim is

[steel pike]

LMAO

[blazing field]

Literally

perfect reflection of fabsol

[lean relic]

too few not gonna lie
need to hire more

[steel pike]

yharmsol

[dusk bronze]

hire me i have infinite free time

[hollow harness]

genuienly Fabsol is someone with no growth he did not change after like 3 dev cycles prior to being booted from the dev team

[grave rock]

yeah fab they dont deserve u for sure 🔥 🔥 🔥

[blazing field]

He's a delusional madman who does a ton of horrible shit be refuses to acnowledge himself as horrible or reflect on his actions and instead just blames everyone else and say he's actually right a nd the good guy

[steel pike]

Horrible horrible

[hollow harness]

Like even Lilac said this he did not change ever

[brittle escarp]

I can't believe he was so bad there was an actual mutiny

[polar tide]

he's right. this community doesn't deserve fabsol because it deserves better

[misty wren]

honestly i was one of the nothing ever happens people when everything was going down so until shit started happening i fully believed that everybody would forget about this within like a week and a half

[blazing field]

ITS INSANE RIGHT

[steel pike]

I wish more horrible people actually grew it’s not that hard

I was a dick I grew up like why can’t you

[still bluff]

There's like 2 active dedicated testers, a ton of tester -> programmer pipeline people, and then a couple of others who revive for important testing stuff

[dusk bronze]

me too omg

[blazing field]

his crew rose up against him and made him walk the plank

[steel pike]

LOL

[obtuse hawk]

mutiny in the krusty krab

[blazing field]

😭 😭

[wary crest]

Imagine having a mutiny over a fucking terraria mod 😭
Insane

[deft lily]

yeah fab is not someone to be "won over"
the amount of egotistical bullshit he spews from his mouth is extremely pathetic

[obtuse hawk]

yup

[strong isle]

Backreading dev, he definitely used to be worse, but that's like raising a few centimeters from rock bottom

[grave rock]

were u pleasantly surprised

[steel pike]

He’s just every boss except for calamitas at this point

[misty wren]

and the thing is this wasnt an unprompted reaction either this shit had happened multiple times in the past

[fierce hearth]

It's really telling for Fabsol to be like "that's all in the past and also the more current stuff is opinion so I won't bend the knee"

[vocal kelp]

anyways u guys should check otu blizzard hat because blizzard hat is the best thing ever

[brittle escarp]

I just hope that him being gone means the devs have more artistic liberty to cook

[deft lily]

blizzard tomorrow

vcmm blizzard tomorrow

[brittle escarp]

Especially with how good brainstorm was

[blazing field]

blizzard hat is cool (haha) because itscuteandi like how it looks

[steel pike]

What were his comments exactly

[blazing field]

cute hat.;

[grave rock]

the lgbtq-related comments i made

[steel pike]

I forgot

[still bluff]

Big E shall continue to cook

[dusk bronze]

hold on

[rose laurel]

Big chEf

[strange cargo]

I hope it means we get more weapons like Saros’ Possession beam for summoner

[hollow harness]

Transphobic statements, Trumpist claims, Antivax stuff, etc etc

[lean relic]

truth super nova

[hollow harness]

It is explained in the Fabsol doc

[blazing field]

also pro-colonizer comments

😭

[brittle escarp]

oof

[brittle escarp]

THERES A FABSOL DOC

[strong isle]

Oh, definitely
I'm really happy with how Brainstorm turned out, and keep in mind it has a lot of stuff that was still from the Fabsol era
The main post-Fabsol features are the boss reworks which seem to be universally praised (thank you Big E 🙏)

[deft lily]

your average stereotypical right wing conservatist comments

[hollow harness]

I was there I baited him in the server actually

[strong isle]

There's always a doc

[polar tide]

would love to help out. the thought of playing calamity... Productively? dream come true

[buoyant pulsar]

hello chat

[lean relic]

yeah cal needs more testers

[buoyant pulsar]

shark react this message

[lean relic]

do it

[tropic jolt]

employed final boss!

[deft lily]

yeah the antivax comments were the dumbest shit ever

[polar tide]

PLEASE DONT MAKE ME GET A JOB!!!!!!

[deft lily]

like 😭

[obtuse hawk]

employedious jobprime

[earnest jewel]

What year did he think it was, 1776?

[hollow harness]

Genuienly disgusting

[steel pike]

Like what were they in specific Thor

Tho*

[strong isle]

And now I'm on vacation and spending day after day actually doing meaningful creative work for the dev team

[wary crest]

He’s antivax? Oh lord it keeps getting worse

[tropic jolt]

the urge to play calamity all day 🥺

[misty wren]

and honestly i think if all the shit that came out came out at different times nothing would have actually happened
if this shit wasnt all happening and coming out near simultaneously i fully believe he would have recovered without any major damage to his reputation (it was already in the dirt this would have just brought it from 5 and a half feet to 6 feet)

[earnest jewel]

Anti-Vaccine and transphobic.

[steel pike]

LITERALLY YHARIM!!!!

[earnest jewel]

(The irony is not lost on me.)

[steel pike]

Do you have the comments tho is what im asking

😭

[deft lily]

dawg im not going to go and look for them

[grave rock]

yharim is antivax. Canon !!!

[deft lily]

do it yerself if your curious

[still bluff]

Not anti stims tho

[rose laurel]

Nah I don't think so

[brittle escarp]

I feel like Yharim would be utilitarian enough to not be anti-vax

[steel pike]

All I saw was like the bathrooms one

[steel pike]

True

[brittle escarp]

how is he supposed to kill the disease god or whatever

[earnest jewel]

Draedon was just vaccinating the bees.

[rose laurel]

But also I'm sick as fuck I don't have the energy to argue this

[earnest jewel]

With big swords, duh.

[steel pike]

I feel like yharim is like what his name from no country for old men

[polar tide]

i'd rather we not sit here and have umbara show us a deluge of terrible things fabsol said/believed

[steel pike]

Does all the shit himself

[deft lily]

feel better vro

[brittle escarp]

true

[still bluff]

The openly transphobic stuff was enough for half the team to be seriously ready to quit
The rest was just enough ammo to kill him instead

[polar tide]

like as someone affected by said beliefs

lol

[steel pike]

Eh fair enough

[fathom girder]

It's kinda insane that Fabsol legit thinks that calamity will go to shit after he left

like huh

he really was the dumbest mfer alive wasn't he

[brittle escarp]

I knew it was bad but I never knew it was that bad

[deft lily]

kid named brainstorm trailer:

[hollow harness]

tbf all the anti-vax, colonizer, trump, etc stuff was kinda leaked before the transphobic statements (leaked by yours truly, ME!!!)

[grave rock]

homelander

[brittle escarp]

thats like actually awful

[arctic cliff]

i think my takeaway from this discussion is that fabsol has serious issues with reading the room

he somehow didnt know about sir nautlius,

and somehow he also didnt notice the trans people all over his devteam, including the person who lived with him

[deft lily]

almost 350k views last i checked

[earnest jewel]

He's the opposite of the one guy in the group project holding it all together.

[fathom girder]

ACTUALLY

yes

[steel pike]

only there are no tuff edits to be made

And never will be

[rose laurel]

Of course he thinks that, he's too far up his own ass to think otherwise

[polar tide]

it's not that he didn't notice. bigots are good at making exceptions when it serves them

[hollow harness]

The difference is that it was just shared with certain users on specific servers

[deft lily]

"i have trans friends"

[fathom girder]

Shame on me for thinking he'd reform in any regard after getting kicked out of his own project huh

[strong isle]

Same

[grave rock]

🙂‍↕️

[blazing field]

the year is 2049. The calamity dev team has went through its 9th complete ship of theseus of the dev team after Fabsol drove all the previous dev teams away. 5 new bosses were added despite the agreement to not add anymore. All of them have reused vanilla AI. 4 new difficulties were added, all of which were exclusively playtested by Fabsol and nobody else.
Yharim has been added. He has duke fishron AI.

There are still 9 enemies in post moonlord.

[arctic cliff]

as a leader he should have thought TWICE before posting transphobic stuff with that in mind

[polar tide]

it isn't a contradiction to their views because their views are reactionary

[deft lily]

fire react

[hollow harness]

The fact he lived with Lilac (openly trans person) was fucked

[steel pike]

gunna writing gif

[fathom girder]

There are still 9 enemies post ml

lmaoooo

[steel pike]

How did he not like

[obtuse hawk]

the earth is melting from this

[steel pike]

He LIVED with them

[hollow harness]

That is like the worst thing here, genuienly

[deft lily]

yeah i feel bad for them

[earnest jewel]

Fabsol has promised that this next boss he came up with in five seconds is the last one for the third time.
It is Duke Fishron, but in drag.

[lean relic]

There are still 9 enemies post ml
LMAO

[misty wren]

he wouldnt put fishron in drag

[arctic cliff]

i remembered lilac being extremely pissed off with him in the chat

[deft lily]

anyways this convo has bored me now

[fathom girder]

really is the cherry on top isn't it

[deft lily]

goopbye

[fathom girder]

goopbye

[obtuse hawk]

wait is there anything wrong with post ml enemies

[hollow root]

ok i'm post polterghast and ceaseless is just fucking impossible

[steel pike]

I kinda agree with this

[brittle escarp]

I never actually noticed all the reused vanilla AI until someone pointed it out to me, and now I can't un-notice

[blazing field]

yes

[hollow root]

what weapon should i even be using here

[fathom girder]

post ML enemies are scarce and unimpressive at best

[blazing field]

the fact theres only 9 of them

😭

[obtuse hawk]

oh

[rose laurel]

Yes

Everything

[grave rock]

post ML enemies are so ass

[blazing field]

And they suck too that's true

[wary crest]

Ceaseless is post scal. Don’t even bother him before then

[gloomy grove]

SLOPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP

[obtuse hawk]

mfw trying to do shit in underworld and the scorn eaters arrive

[brittle escarp]

CV is the hardest boss and I will die on that hill

[strong isle]

Reminds me of the essay I wrote earlier in a discussion about exploration and combat on Reddit

[wary crest]

Unironically tho why the hell is ceaseless so much harder than signis and weaver

[fierce hearth]

Scorn eaters are also absolutely abysmal enemies that have comically jank movement

[lean relic]

everytime i see this guy i

[fathom girder]

the fact you survived after posting on the reddit is impressive

[gloomy grove]

stop moving so much and it becomes 10x easier

[dusk bronze]

link? i like seeing different opinions on game design

[strong isle]

I don't mind and I was interesting, but man it puts scientific articles to shame the amount of effort I have to put into those comments

[obtuse hawk]

glorified single-movement biome mimic

[grave rock]

scorn eaters are so funny

[rancid pagoda]

the trick is to move less, sometimes not moving at all is actually the safest thing

[brittle escarp]

omg it is isnt it

[hollow root]

no because then he just hits you bc you can't fucking dodge without getting whacked by 3 balls and dying

[arctic cliff]

fucking hell his dev vanity transformation (pun intended) accessory references estrogen in its contents

this guy was

a fucking piece

anyhow yeah

[rose laurel]

Scorn Eaters are fucking dogshit

[brittle escarp]

I think its jsut odd that CV feels like it does more damage than Yharon

[blazing field]

haha.

[dusk bronze]

[rose laurel]

They are also, somehow, one of the best things Fabsol ever designed

[brittle escarp]

at least relative to gear

[grave rock]

i only remember scorn eaters

what else does post ml have...

[earnest jewel]

The pinnacle of game design.

[obtuse hawk]

fabsol designed it????

[grave rock]

uh,, the retextured dungeon spirits..

[obtuse hawk]

what the fuck

[fathom girder]

They're vaguely unique enemies it's kinda crazy

[rose laurel]

Well

[arctic cliff]

scorn eaters are dogshit rn, but honestly i think their inevitable rework (they have to be, they're just) should keep them as difficult enemies

[fathom girder]

vaguely

[rose laurel]

I assume he's who coded it

[gloomy grove]

almost immovable object meets fragile terrarian, who wins

[cosmic tusk]

Hello, I havent been in here for a couple years. has yharim come out yet because i just loaded up the game and i see him on the main menu

[fierce hearth]

Give Scorn Eaters Bowser down special

[rose laurel]

But I wouldn't be so sure

[dusk bronze]

acid rain t3 technically

[earnest jewel]

Purple ghosts... Providence enemy #1, Providence enemy #2, uh...

[brittle escarp]

not yet

[hollow root]

yea fuck it im fighting yharon rn

[blazing field]

such enemy variety

[arctic cliff]

i think the uniqueness of scorn eaters is because they keep obliterating people so people actually notice they exist

[gloomy grove]

come back in like 2-4 years

[steel pike]

where does this come from

[fathom girder]

shoutout BLOOM SLIME

[grave rock]

who remembers BLOATFISH

BLOATFISH BABYYY

[blazing field]

dont diss my goat bloatfish

[brittle escarp]

Bloom slime my goat

[cosmic tusk]

has the dog rework yet?

[earnest jewel]

Like, five of those spawn pre-Moon Lord anyway...

[polar tide]

anyways trans rights, love, prosperity and happiness forever and ever until the end of time

[earnest jewel]

Yes.

[hollow root]

no give them his side special, let them drag you down until you get stuck in terrain

[gloomy grove]

temporary one for now

[blazing field]

The rework came out with brainstorm , its been a while

But its a temporary rework yea

[dusk bronze]

truth duke

[cosmic tusk]

is it good?

[blazing field]

full rework will come way later

[grave rock]

can i call ts ass

[steel pike]

duke

[obtuse hawk]

hell yea

[earnest jewel]

So they say.

[rose laurel]

Trans WRONGS

[dusk bronze]

yes that was intentional

[earnest jewel]

Trans neutrality.

[brittle escarp]

Aw HELL naw

[polar tide]

trans wrongs too i am a yharim fan after all

[rose laurel]

Trans people should be allowed to kill one person every week I think

[arctic cliff]

btw half of these (abyss enemies) can actually show up pre-post-ml, its just that post-ml is when you're actually supposed to fight them

although the colossal squid shows up in layer 3 so whatever

[grave rock]

mhm mhm

[strange cargo]

As a trans person I approve this message

[blazing field]

so theres actually even LESS post ml enemies

🔥

[fierce hearth]

Can I start systematically eliminating lead devs of random mods

[arctic cliff]

yuppp

[fierce hearth]

With my trans privilege

[earnest jewel]

Sure, why not.

[strange cargo]

I fucking hate the Providence adjacent hallow enemies

[grave rock]

can we allow any trans people who work in like, restaurants etc to kill one customer per shift

i feel like I deserve it

[strong isle]

I will start selling hatchets so I can become rich and buy a katana

[strange cargo]

They take up the spawns for unicorns n shi

[rose laurel]

No I think we should be fair

[brittle escarp]

I think all service workers should be able to do that

just in general

[rose laurel]

Anyone working on those positions should get to kill one customer per shift

[grave rock]

real as fuck

[brittle escarp]

Someone is rude to you and you leap across the register

[fathom girder]

"can I talk to your manager" nuclear bomb

[brittle escarp]

Like the foxy jumpscare

[polar tide]

all service workers get to and trans service workers get one extra

[brittle escarp]

Exactly

now we are talking

[grave rock]

i press a button and a trapdoor appears under them :3

[rose laurel]

Bro I want to play ULTRAKILL

[polar tide]

peace and love on earth

[rose laurel]

But I'm DEAD

[brittle escarp]

If its during a mandatory holiday shift, the number is doubled

[strange cargo]

Can I like save mine up if I don’t use the week’s one?

[brittle escarp]

fraud is very hard, and I am very bad

[rose laurel]

I finished Fraud on Friday

I'm just

Dead as fuck right now

[tropic jolt]

maybe we were the real frauds all along 😔

[grave rock]

im getting cooked in fraud 😭

[brittle escarp]

Imposter Syndrome:

[rose laurel]

I want to P-Rank Fraud

[earnest jewel]

Are you a treacherous Incan scientist?

[strong isle]

I gotta say
For someone who's used to developing lore over the course of months or even years, making up lore over days is quite the mental gymnastics

[grave rock]

the motion sickness is real

[rose laurel]

It's not that hard

[strong isle]

And so I'm resting rn

[earnest jewel]

I tried making lore.
Now I need to research Crusader Order government structure for authenticity.

[grave rock]

8-3 last section (no other spoilers) i genuinely have no clue where to go im sorry

[brittle escarp]

Making lore is so much fun. I am DMing my first campaign rn and we are 25 sessions in and I have over 100 pages of word documents

probably over 200 at this point

[blazing field]

My grand plan

1. Hunt the mapinguari in the amazon jungle
2. Sell its body to science for great profit
3. Use that money to invest on a mapinguari genetic cloning project
4. Start a secret farm of mapinguaris
5. Sell the mapinguari leather on the black market
6. Gradually accumulate wealth and become the wowrld monopoly of mapinguari leather
7. Invest in advertising and great influence for mapinguari leather clothes, bags, etc
8. become rich enough to establish yourself as the president of a country
9. Start war with new zealand
11. deploy the mapinguari beam

[lean relic]

lore writers basically have full power now after fab boot

[obtuse hawk]

lore writing kinda fun

[grave rock]

powerful

[earnest jewel]

I know what the power feels like.
I have made Providence Turkish.
No one can stop me.

[strong isle]

Eagerly awaiting the evil lore society exposal doc

[dusk bronze]

as it should be

[blazing field]

theyre gonna aexplore my illegal mapinguari business

im cooked

[brittle escarp]

What "formal powers" does the mod owner even have

[strong isle]

They're holding programmers hostage so they can make Slime God, King of Slimedom real

[dusk bronze]

patreon and merch stuff

[brittle escarp]

Is slime god ever getting re-tiered?

[strong isle]

We'll see :)

[dusk bronze]

please say no

[grave rock]

its 2028, ozzatron has been ejected into outer space. the lore writers have full control now. the full agnus update is ready to release.

[brittle escarp]

Or at least made more difficult

[fierce hearth]

Hey I know the Fabsol situation is different but I wanna say that in my prior experiences when I did joint worldbuilding with exes broken up with for being Bad and Whatnot we often ended up just writing their characters canonically dying if they weren't too important to need to be outright replaced

[blazing field]

yeah the drunk pri ncess canonically died

[strong isle]

Ozz is pretty chill
In terms of stuff that goes ingame, most of the time he behaves like just another dev that we hold particular respect for

[blazing field]

that's what happened

just that simple

[brittle escarp]

Thats nice

[fierce hearth]

Yharim accidentally unmade her

[blazing field]

tha dosen't work

[tribal isle]

Sent to distortion and eaten by purple critters

[brittle escarp]

I am glad things are better now and y'all are out of super development hell

[blazing field]

becasue yharim is fabsol already

[grave rock]

drunk princess is old duke's daughter

[blazing field]

drunk princess was eaten by the old duke

[fierce hearth]

It's poetic, it's his own fault

[stuck kite]

ozz does do administrative stuff he doesn't really work on content himself

[strong isle]

I feel like that's not entirely true

[grave rock]

when is gaster releasing

[blazing field]

today

[dusk bronze]

didn't he just rework onyx excavator

[strong isle]

He doesn't often work directly on content, but he does management work tied to it

[grave rock]

ok

yay

[brittle escarp]

👀

[tropic jolt]

2016

[blazing field]

gasterupdate ...

[brittle escarp]

2016 was 10 years ago

this is terrible news

[stuck kite]

i would consider that administrative

[fierce hearth]

Deltarune chapter 5 releases before yharim

[obtuse hawk]

time flies by extremely fast

[lean relic]

i dont know
i remember ooz helped optimizing a lot before

[earnest jewel]

Ooz?

Goozma is a dev!?

[tribal isle]

I’d bet my soul that all 7 chapters are gonna release before yharim

[strong isle]

For example, he helps us establish goals and scope, or establish what update we're doing next
While that's arguably administration, it kinda impacts content in a major way so I count it

[earnest jewel]

I knew it.

[fierce hearth]

Ooz....

[lean relic]

ozz

fuck

[stuck kite]

definitely not content in the sense where people ask like "who made the xyz rework"

[dusk bronze]

agree

[obtuse hawk]

at least he helps

[grave rock]

the oozatron

[lean relic]

minor spelling issue

[grave rock]

new boss

[stuck kite]

well i guess excluding nanoblack :)

[grave rock]

mechanical king slime

[blazing field]

"atleast" is a bit of a

poor awy to phrase it,

[obtuse hawk]

huh

[blazing field]

makes it sound like his work isn't "helpful"

[hollow root]

status report: i did in fact lose to yharon lol

[strong isle]

(Nanoblack is his item, after all)

[blazing field]

trust me management work is

[hollow root]

who would've guessed it'd be hard pre DoG

[blazing field]

one of the most important damn things for a a dev team

[brittle escarp]

😔

[blazing field]

just pointing thatout

[stuck kite]

management is easily one of the most important parts

[obtuse hawk]

yea poor wording

[hollow root]

BUT I CAN'T BEAT VOID SO I'M JUST STUCK HERE

[obtuse hawk]

my fault og

[brittle escarp]

You can do DoG pre CV

[obtuse hawk]

won't happen again

[brittle escarp]

unless that was removed this update

[dusk bronze]

nop

[strong isle]

It also puts him at the center so on some capacity he is always aware of what's going on

[hollow root]

How? You need shadow for the summon

[dusk bronze]

still there

[fathom girder]

CV is just dog shit

[dusk bronze]

alternate recipe

[brittle escarp]

There is a separate way to craft it, no?

[grave rock]

CV is like

top 5 cal bosses

[brittle escarp]

yeah

[grave rock]

im sorry but

[fathom girder]

you can alt craft it yeah

[brittle escarp]

👎

Bottom 1 boss

[dusk bronze]

👍

[brittle escarp]

I am CV #1 hater

[earnest jewel]

Seek aid.

[misty wren]

cv sucks

[fierce hearth]

LMAO

[tribal isle]

Pbg is the worst boss I hope it gets killed along with everything else plague related

[grave rock]

a boss that doesnt let u run away is good by my book

[fierce hearth]

The Ceaseless Void wars

[lean relic]

and we are back to cv.....

[obtuse hawk]

how ceaseless is this void

[dusk bronze]

all roads lead to void

[misty wren]

cv is fine in concept but good god its horrible in gameplay its so bad 😭

[grave rock]

CV actually punishes u for flying around like a fool

[fathom girder]

CV punishes you for trying to engage yeah

[brittle escarp]

They call it "ceasless void" but I am pretty sure it "ceased" after I shot it. Checkmate CV enjoyers

[fathom girder]

stand in a spot or die

[blazing field]

noworries

[hollow root]

in concept it's very cool to subvert the formula with a boss fight that focuses on minute, precise movements rather than flying circles around a massive arena. But to be the only one like that in a game where every other fight is circles is dumb

[frozen horizon]

Deltarune and Ultrakill Starting and finishing during Calamity would be kinda funny and sad.

[blazing field]

Yeah it's good to have someone who's capable of communicating between diff teams

To make sure everyone's on thesame page

[fierce hearth]

CV rn is really easy to cheese by standing still and killing a very specific set of energies to completely trivialize the phases, and doesn't do enough aggressively to make the vuln phase particularly interesting

[dusk bronze]

cv is fine but if you make a single mistake you get wombo combod into oblivion

[hollow root]

people keep saying this but IT STILL HITS YOU IF YOU DON'T MOVE

[misty wren]

the only other boss designed around making you Not Move is ravager and im not a fan of ravager either

[dull heart]

oh hey I have a bunch of CV tips

Lemme grab them

[dusk bronze]

obviously you still have to move

[hollow root]

i just... move during ravager? And am fine

[dusk bronze]

just not a lot

[frozen horizon]

What's this about?

[grave rock]

my cal boss ranking is prolly
Supreme Calamitas
Devourer of Gods
brain
Providence
Ceaseless Void
in that order

[brittle escarp]

The only thing I don't like is how he uses gravity to throw me into his attacks against my will

[blazing field]

[lean relic]

ozzatron

[misty wren]

ozzatron being a good leader

[tropic jolt]

[hollow root]

other than void i like the ranking

[deft lily]

[hollow root]

new Brain is sick as hell

[lean relic]

[fathom girder]

Tip 1:
Download Cheatsheet and use the butcher button

[tropic jolt]

the ritual

BLIZZARD... TOMORROW!!

[frozen horizon]

Exo Mechs that bad?

[deft lily]

christ almighty

[dusk bronze]

yes

[deft lily]

doze jumpscare

[dull heart]

boo

[deft lily]

AH

[grave rock]

exos i actually would put in my top 10

[deft lily]

😱

[grave rock]

exos kinda suck but

[dusk bronze]

ok now you're delusional

[dull heart]

CV is a fine boss and very learnable people just don't

[grave rock]

theyre cinematic!

[arctic cliff]

why cant CV be a clone of Brainstorm Brain of Cthluhu

[brittle escarp]

I like exos too

[deft lily]

😨

[misty wren]

exos are cinematic and that is where positives about them end

[grave rock]

i dont dread fighting them theyre just. rly fucken easy

[brittle escarp]

One of the only fights I actually still die to

[dull heart]

CV is like the only boss in the mod someone truly has to learn

[fierce hearth]

what the everloving fuck was that emoji

[lean relic]

[dusk bronze]

that's the worst thing they could be

[still cobalt]

cv is the one boss i jus dont do without infernum!

[arctic cliff]

hang on i havent actually gotten to CV yet

gimme a sec

[dusk bronze]

as one of the final bosses

[deft lily]

[grave rock]

theyre literally hype moments and aura but like

[hollow root]

exo mechs are cool but omg the fight is so LONG

[obtuse hawk]

wires

[misty wren]

easy and unengaging

[grave rock]

theyre hype moments and aura

[teal bone]

not real...

[grave rock]

what can i say

[wary crest]

[hollow root]

TY!

[arctic cliff]

well at least i dont have to fight vanilla exo mechs cause of WOTM

[brittle escarp]

They have really cool designs

[grave rock]

they're also not going up against the best competition

[deft lily]

🤔

[hollow root]

any recs on what summon(s) to use for it? i've beaten everything else pre-DoG beside old duke

[dull heart]

I really really need to make a video guide to VC

[brittle escarp]

I absolutely adore the spritework on the exo mechs

[dusk bronze]

the aura isn't real

[blazing field]

hey guys wassup its me

[dusk bronze]

wake up

[grave rock]

veaceless coid

[dusk bronze]

give me hellkite

[obtuse hawk]

hyperius bullet moments

[dull heart]

Virid Vanguard, the active is great at hitting a ton of energy

[hollow root]

El Void Ceaseless

[misty wren]

its fine for a boss to be easy but only if said ease also comes with actual engagement
a good boss has to be engaging otherwise it just wont be good

[blazing field]

dies and drops it at 12.5% chance

[steel pike]

holy fuck

[hollow root]

with or without the dragons

[steel pike]

can you stop? That disturbed me

[brittle escarp]

My main complaint with the exo mechs is that artemis and apollo always die too fast and I can never get the surge driver

[steel pike]

I- I- can’t handle that…

[dull heart]

I don't know tbh

[brittle escarp]

even if I try to keep them alive they still die

[strong isle]

And I gotta say
Management is hard
I've been a lot more engaged with this update, especially coordination and information, and it is quite tiring

I love it though! So I just take breaks and continue

[misty wren]

oob detrevni

[grave rock]

weird, i always do hunters last

[brittle escarp]

I literally cannot keep them alive to save my life

[grave rock]

my order is usually ares thanatos hunters

[brittle escarp]

Thanatos has too much health

[steel pike]

!!!!HAA

[brittle escarp]

ares always dies first

100% of the time

[steel pike]

!!!!POTS

[dusk bronze]

this is true

[hollow root]

wait do people think the mechs are easy

gonna kms

[brittle escarp]

They get easy once you get the order down

[dull heart]

I have never had artpolo die too fast

[steel pike]

ENOD UOY EVAH TAHW

[brittle escarp]

like once you realize that you can literally just dodge ares by moving in like a diamond

[grave rock]

ye same, theyre always up last for me

[dull heart]

Art/Apo are the only mech that has no weapon that can just melt them

[misty wren]

yeah they're just kinda a hold left or right simulator for the most part

[brittle escarp]

Dragon's fury

[grave rock]

it helps theyre a low priority target IMO

[dull heart]

Ares and Thanatos both can be ultra melted

[brittle escarp]

does like 40k dps

[dusk bronze]

you literally just fall diagonally in a single direction and you become immune to damage

[brittle escarp]

thanatos I do like 20k dps against

[dull heart]

dragon rage?? the true melee??

[brittle escarp]

Ares I get 80

[grave rock]

focusing on ares and thanatos feels a lot better

[blazing field]

🐻 <- freddy

[hollow root]

tbf when i beat the mechs the first time i was grinding them at work lmao

[brittle escarp]

Oh, no the flamethrower

[blazing field]

jumpscares

[brittle escarp]

dragon's breath?

whatever its called

[dull heart]

ah

[steel pike]

AAHHHH!!!

[deft lily]

take care of urself user

[brittle escarp]

That weapon is so peak

[fathom girder]

we love the work you do

[hollow root]

and just conching between beaches over and over lol

[fathom girder]

love the work the whole devteam does I think I like how the future of cal is lookin'

[steel pike]

At least it’s not…

Bear 5…

[grave rock]

i dont remember what i used for thanatos, like. chicken cannon i think?

[dull heart]

Anyway I doubt dragons breath is really specifically a twins melter unless it's overtuned in general

[blazing field]

It can be a bit overwhelming at times

You do kinda get the hang of it after a while tho

[brittle escarp]

Nah, it just does solid damage

[dull heart]

like mechanically the way twins work means nothing really melts them

[obtuse hawk]

i see

[brittle escarp]

about as much as the king's bane, I just like it more

[blazing field]

I know i definitely have gotten much better in my management skills ever since i started being jane roy lol

[obtuse hawk]

i guess i just never managed anything important so i don't really have a place to speak

[blazing field]

kinda fumbled at first

[grave rock]

thanatos is so easy to melt

heehee

[steel pike]

Who’s Thanatos again

[obtuse hawk]

t hanatos

[steel pike]

Name sounds super familiar

[dusk bronze]

exo destroyer

[grave rock]

i never felt like i melted ares tbh. theres prolly a better weapon i coulda been using

but tyrannys end is COMFORTABLE okay???

[obtuse hawk]

isnt that the auric sniper shotgun thing

[grave rock]

yup its the auric sniper rifle

[obtuse hawk]

i havent played ranger in a while

[grave rock]

it feels soo good to use

i love it

[obtuse hawk]

deeznutzinator

[misty wren]

tyrannys end is the pinnacle of donor weapon design in an objective sense because like

its one of the only donor items that doesnt feel like a donor item

[grave rock]

its a donor item??

huh

[arctic cliff]

hang on i would normally run straight to #suggestions-posting , but is it now normal for the profaned guardians to look... like this?

cause this looks HORRIBLE

[misty wren]

see that reaction is what tells you its a good donor weapon

[grave rock]

true!

[dusk bronze]

yeah

[grave rock]

alot of donor items i gotta admit feel a bit. off

jarring

[misty wren]

most donor items have a specific vibe to them

[obtuse hawk]

imagine using tyranny's end irl

how powerful would it be

[stuck kite]

the unapologetically donor items are funny sometimes

[dusk bronze]

marksman bow

[grave rock]

whoever decided on handheld tank recipe

exploe

explode

[misty wren]

the pinnacle of donor items in the sense of how donor item it feels ironically used to be not a donor weapon but in fact lucrecia

[grave rock]

pls

[tropic jolt]

my favorite donor weapon is stygian shield

[misty wren]

lucrecia when it had iframes on hit was the single most donor item ever but it wasnt a donor item

[obtuse hawk]

i forgot what my favorite donor weapon is

[grave rock]

TIGER SKIN whyyyyy

[obtuse hawk]

lemme look\

[arctic cliff]

wait, do you mean this by "yeah its normal" or "yeah this looks horrible"

[dusk bronze]

universal genesis is worse

[dusk bronze]

lowk both

[arctic cliff]

gotcha

[dusk bronze]

i mean
not horrible but could be better

[arctic cliff]

straight to #suggestions-posting now

[wintry coral]

why on earth did they remove yanmeis knife anyway that donor weapon was goated

[misty wren]

however currently its prismatic breaker

[hollow root]

ok this might be an unpopular opinion: bosses with invincible phases are stupid

[misty wren]

donor wanted it removed

[hollow root]

just give it more health

[wintry coral]

[obtuse hawk]

damn idk

[hollow root]

i shouldn't have to watch the health bar to realize im not doing anything so i can focus on dodging

hitting the enemy should hit them

[blazing field]

marksman bow

best donor item truly

[dusk bronze]

what bosses turn invincible other than cv

[wintry coral]

how many actually have invul phases besides cal/clone

[blazing field]

i love my shitpost weaponm

[misty wren]

marksman bow is notable in how shitty it is

[grave rock]

why is it a shitpost

is the joke how generic

it is

[misty wren]

but outside of the ??? induced by its existence it doesnt feel like a donor item

[fathom girder]

A bow I always use in my runs honestly

free jester arrows

[blazing field]

No it definitely feels like a donor item

It was intentionally designed to be as shitty as possible in that regard

[grave rock]

clockwork bow isnt a donor item? woah

[blazing field]

😭 its a literal shitpost of an item

[misty wren]

prismatic breaker is just so out there that i cant imagine calamity adding it intentionally

[blazing field]

devs asked if they could rework it if it waas so shitty and

the donor just

no please. please dont make it good dude

[fathom girder]

Honestly it's really funny

[blazing field]

this is why its the best donor item

[fathom girder]

like I respect the grind

It's popular because it's bad and he's going to be loved for it

if it was made good it's just any other donor item you know

[blazing field]

crafted wtih nothing but 12 ectoplasm

turns wooden arrows into jester arrows

has no unique traits otherwise

[fathom girder]

That is honestly like

a really good trade

[steel pike]

what other bosses turn… what?

[fathom girder]

use 12 ectoplasm and now you can kill aquatic scourge really easily

so free!

[misty wren]

marksman bow is an item i could genuinely see cal adding at some point and just forgetting about it

[grave rock]

i like the respiteblock

[obtuse hawk]

blue

[fathom girder]

respiteblock needs more attention

[hollow root]

I DID IT

[fathom girder]

that thing is pretty swag

[hollow root]

THE WICKED BITCH IS DEAD

[obtuse hawk]

what does respiteblock do again

[misty wren]

thats why it doesnt feel super donor to me

[lean relic]

Cal clone

[obtuse hawk]

isnt butchers chainsaw in its recipe

[fathom girder]

Respiteblock is a chainsaw that fires sparks on dealing damage and also heals the user

yes