calamity-update-talk

[deft lily]

consequences of sleep deprevation

[fathom girder]

yeah hellwing bow is brutal

like it is REALLY good against aquatic scourge

[deft lily]

most weapons are good against AS

[fathom girder]

you haven't seen what hellwing bow does

it melts that thing faster than some HM weapons

[deft lily]

ive never played ranger in cal so yeah i havent

[pulsar cobalt]

smh all these new gen devs like "tofew" and "charnee" dont even know the game like the back of their hand smh my head

[deft lily]

but in general AS is just a pushover

[twin mural]

it still took me a while

[deft lily]

is what i was getting at

[twin mural]

i wasnt using wooden arrows

[fathom girder]

oh

try it with wooden arrows

and watch the bats tear through the poor thing

[twin mural]

o

mmmmmmmm

i wanna use them

but

i dont want to be too cheaty

[twin mural]

the only pre hm boss i have left is wof anyways

[fathom girder]

get the uhhhhhh

acid rain 2 bow for wof

that bullies him pretty hard

that and the other bow that AS drops are obviously op against him lul

[twin mural]

no

im doing another challenge

[fathom girder]

why not

wh

wdym

[twin mural]

beat the entirety of pre hm with the boomstick

[arctic patrol]

surely its possible

[twin mural]

cuz the boomstick is the best pre hm weapon

[arctic patrol]

right...?

[twin mural]

i only have WoF left

[fathom girder]

...uh huh

I'd recommend using corrosive spine then

[twin mural]

saying this as a melee pleyer

[fathom girder]

because wof doesn't like sickness

and get scion's curio

[arctic patrol]

wall of brick

[distant agate]

why the fuck is a bot posting crypto scam bs here lol

[deft lily]

elon musk wooooooooooo

[desert garnet]

first time?

[deft lily]

i love elon musk!

[desert garnet]

usually its mrbeast

[distant agate]

i love a certain 1940s german guy

[deft lily]

its either

• mrbeast
• logan paul
• elon musk

[arctic patrol]

get banned

[distant agate]

yea actually lmfao

[distant agate]

IM MAKING FUN OF MUSK

[pulsar cobalt]

you forgot about kai cenat

[arctic patrol]

are we sure its fellon tusk

[deft lily]

who in the fuck is that

[arctic patrol]

that one black streamer

that screams everytime

dont know much about him but he seems like that type of person

[desert garnet]

that one black streamer where everything happens in his room

[rare tinsel]

i thouvht that was ishowspeed

[arctic patrol]

that would be uhh

speed

that one time he burned his bedsheet

[fathom girder]

w speed

[arctic patrol]

or when he whipped it out on chica

[distant agate]

do you guys know how insane you sound to people who dont watch twitch

[arctic patrol]

[desert garnet]

tbh both of them do the same xd

but imo speed better

[deft lily]

yeah...

[arctic patrol]

i dont even do twitch

fuck is that

[deft lily]

speed is funny tho icl lmao

[fathom girder]

breathes

w speed

[arctic patrol]

is it like weed or what

[lapis oak]

this icon keeps reminding me of something

familiar

whenever I see it it just tickles my brain

[distant agate]

the berserk skeleton

[dull heart]

dart trap in achievement icon

[lapis oak]

omg wait doze

plz help

[dull heart]

no

[lapis oak]

wtf I haven't said anything

[dull heart]

L

[lapis oak]

can you do something about this

[tropic jolt]

its just a Skill Issue

game says it right there!

[dull heart]

I won't

[lapis oak]

😭

[dusk bronze]

simply dodge better

[keen zodiac]

do teleporter pads work during Scal fight?

[lapis oak]

that's so fucking evil

[dull heart]

it's the anti oneshot mechanic

[pulsar cobalt]

get good

[lapis oak]

the anti oneshot mechanic that she's learnt in the 2.1 era

[tropic jolt]

sob

[dull heart]

you could beat it with wacro dissonance probably

[tropic jolt]

"the terrarians dodging skills are quite advanced!"

[fathom girder]

wacro dissonance op as shit

Honestly doze, you should put a cooldown on that lmao

[dull heart]

no

[dusk bronze]

i think it's just powered

since it takes an accessory slot

[lapis oak]

give me 1 gorillion dollars if I did it

[dull heart]

it's actually really easy to beat

Go my recall pot

[lapis oak]

1 bazillion dollars

[fathom girder]

One accessory slot for unlimited vaguely limited-range teleports is a tad OP imo

though ig the same accessory also allows you to go 127 mph in any given direction if you know what you're doing

so

idk

[dull heart]

until I see real abuse of it

I'm not touching it

[fathom girder]

so you want me to record this cheesing malice dog is what you're saying

[dull heart]

then I'd just disable hooks in malice dog in general

[fathom girder]

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmkay

[dull heart]

Actually

[fathom girder]

what would be the tipping point for you then

[dull heart]

using teleports in malice dog should just

[fathom girder]

what would I gotta dooo

[dull heart]

instantly spawn a Hyperdeath Rift Ripper

[fathom girder]

wait genius actually

[unique warren]

No Terraprisma buff… sadness

[fathom girder]

that's cheeky I like that

[tropic jolt]

malice dog is jared wearing a dog costume

[unique warren]

I will never mentally recover from this

[fathom girder]

Jared but actually cool

ig

[halcyon seal]

Malice dog is Stargod Prime

[tropic jolt]

jared if they were a good boss

[fathom girder]

from storm weaver to stargod to DoG rework

doze is THE worm guy

[dull heart]

you can take any boss and improve it and it'll become more like malice dog

[tropic jolt]

malice dog is perfection

[unique warren]

worm boss…

[fathom girder]

Malice dog is the crab of the calamity world

[dull heart]

Apex of creation

[tropic jolt]

all it needs now is a gaster blaster circle attack

[dull heart]

that's for clone smh

[fathom girder]

Gaster blaster circle but it's the hyperdeath rift lasers

you WILL go deaf

[dull heart]

I still wanna give clone whole out sans opener

The entire thing

[lapis oak]

wtf is Gaster Blaster

[dull heart]

With the arena you could

[fathom girder]

Undertale thing

[dull heart]

Sans laser

[tropic jolt]

snans

[fathom girder]

Clone getting the sans treatment is evil

also that would 100% be dissonance hook cheesable

[lapis oak]

I can't take it seriously with that name no

[fathom girder]

I can't take you seriously with that name

so

[dull heart]

I should make a mod that reworks skeletron into sans fight

[unique warren]

It was a file name so uh yeah

[fathom girder]

careful who you bully in high school

wait doze

skeletron should be given legs

[lapis oak]

I shaved your head

[fathom girder]

and he should walk

DON'T YOU DARE

[unique warren]

Idk if gaster blaster has a canonized name

[pulsar cobalt]

ok kiri white

[lapis oak]

too late\

shaved

[fathom girder]

mf

I spent SEVEN YEARS growing this

[lapis oak]

ok

[fathom girder]

gone

ALL GONE

[lapis oak]

wait I can't say it

😨

[pulsar cobalt]

why not

[unique warren]

Anyways gragghh where is my Terraprisma buff gragghhh

[pulsar cobalt]

what were you going to say

[fathom girder]

no

no terraprisma for you

[lapis oak]

xan't say it

[unique warren]

Where did you put it gragghhh

Anger

[lapis oak]

when u get to use Gem Tech stream it

give me a notif

[dull heart]

ur mom

[fathom girder]

I wonder what the most optimal gem tech self damage build is

like what accessories

all I know about is rampart

idk what other self damage accessories would be relevant there

[hollow root]

did they take RoD away from the wizard

[fathom girder]

or like. tanking accessories

[unique warren]

Probably multiclass I would think lmao

[fathom girder]

well yes but

self

damage

accessories

is what I'm thinking about

[fathom girder]

yeah

[hollow root]

whyyyyyy

[fathom girder]

but it's easy to farm em now

just spend like 10 minutes in the hallow and you'll get one

[hollow root]

no it's not lol. i don't have a hallow, that shit spawned entirely on my jungle

[fathom girder]

specifically, the droprate was increased

[unique warren]

That’s rough, buddy.

[fathom girder]

skilllllllllllllll issue ig

[hollow root]

so there's almost no chaos elementls lol

[lapis oak]

craft bottles and start throwing in hell

[hollow root]

i had to make an artificial surface biome bc no fairies and no lacewings

[unique warren]

Man I need post-ml viable Terraprisma so bad ;-;

[fathom girder]

you have that

in the form of virid vanguard

[unique warren]

Not as peak

I mean

Equally peak but not the same thing

[lapis oak]

this what I used

[fathom girder]

eye, affliction and dark sun ring are problably things I'd replace

[unique warren]

Why not destroyer emblem at least????

[high scaffold]

How do yall think, is calamity update this spring possible?

[fathom girder]

lemme cook a little

[lapis oak]

L

it has less crit chance

I need less RNG to oneshot Brothers

[unique warren]

Does cal have a thing that gives more than 100% crit?

[high scaffold]

Also eye of golem gives crit damage

[unique warren]

Cause otherwise you should be able to get it

Ok fair but there has to be smth better regardless

[lapis oak]

the build uses Rippers

otherwise I'd just go this and be brainless

no needs to charge Adren

[stuck kite]

ooh

[deft lily]

hi altix

[high scaffold]

Honestly post DoG is kinda lame when it comes to accessories

[unique warren]

Is it?

It kind of has hella accessories

[high scaffold]

Are they good? Yes. Are there options to play around? Not so much

[unique warren]

Ahhh yeah

[stuck kite]

okay so you're telling me this is a mistake

[unique warren]

Late game build variety being non existent

[stuck kite]

@lapis oak

[high scaffold]

Mostly defencive accessories and barely any offence based

[lapis oak]

YESSSS

OMG

🥹 🙏

[unique warren]

Excluding the all class ones ofc

[lapis oak]

holy shit goat

[unique warren]

What you have uh… amalgam and uhhh… uhhhh…

[high scaffold]

And class specific accessories

Like elemental gauntlet

[lapis oak]

time to go ham with Gem Tech in 2.1.3...

[unique warren]

Dark Sun Ring is… mostly defensive with a bit of damage

[high scaffold]

You are kinda forced to go chonk

[unique warren]

For accessories ya

For armor, you can rock with Omega Blue till you get Demonshade it’s kinda hype

[high scaffold]

I mean there is that one accessory that gives 1.2 damage multiplier but makes you take more damage

[unique warren]

(Based)

[high scaffold]

But arc flash ring gives a mathematical 1.15 multiplier with no downside

[lapis oak]

Psycho Knife Yellow Gem crit is so funny with this build

[unique warren]

Why does arc flash ring even exist

What’s the point of it

[lapis oak]

I think it does 10% SCal normally and 25% Rippers

[unique warren]

Though also you could just use both

[high scaffold]

It gives quite a damage boost

And a debuff on top

[lapis oak]

no wait not that build

[unique warren]

Yes but why is it a thing

Like why was it added

[lapis oak]

the Eye of Golem build

[high scaffold]

Actualy AFR has potential to go beyond 1.15 as it itself can crit

[unique warren]

Who thought that was a good idea

[stuck kite]

1. storm weaver needed an expert drop
2. allegedly we needed more general damage accessory options

[high scaffold]

If it works like crit attack that deals 2x damage causes lighting for 3x damage that also crits for 2x then its absolutely crazy

[unique warren]

I see

[stuck kite]

mainly the 1

[unique warren]

Still, that’s ridiculous damage

[dense sundial]

i imagine it's great for charged attacks like phalanx surge

[boreal pewter]

well, if you're lucky sure

[dense sundial]

or like, it would be if it was a cooldown instead of a chance

[high scaffold]

It is 5% chance tho

[unique warren]

Yeah fair but also still

[cinder hearth]

Oh yeah in that case yeah

[dense sundial]

it would probably be nutty in that case so chance makes sense

[high scaffold]

Its like an ATG from RoR2

Fixed chance for more total damage

[unique warren]

Anyways yeah uh cal balance a little wacky

Especially summoner (I will not shut up about Terraprisma )

[boreal pewter]

3x damage on cooldown is just big hit abuse and useless for everything else and wouldn't be balanced at all

same reason the bands are flat damage and not %ofHitDamage

[lapis oak]

istg something needs to be done about reforges RNG

holy shit I can't get the reforge I want

[high scaffold]

We dont want the bands from RoR2 in calamity as those are wacky

[boreal pewter]

this is true

[unique warren]

I ❤️ post-ML unviable Terraprisma (I do not)

[cinder hearth]

Is it unviable or is it simply a bit worse than the options already present at that stage of the game

[unique warren]

I have been told it’s D tier at best

Which uh, is basically unviable

[cinder hearth]

For a post golem tiered weapon it is not THAT bad considering how many stages there are in between that and post ML

Especially considering how huge of a jump in power it is between pre and post ML

[tropic jolt]

its not really post golem tier anymore though

thats like saying duke fishrons drops are pre mech tier

[cinder hearth]

No, that'd be if I said EOL is pre mech too

You can get lacewings pre mech as well can you not

In calamity I mean

[tropic jolt]

not sure

[fathom girder]

sorry kiri I got distracted and now my regenator grants me a 40% global damage boost

hehehehehehee

[boreal pewter]

probably not quite that once you start moving

[fathom girder]

no I'm moving

It's this when I stand still

[unique warren]

I mean

[tropic jolt]

[boreal pewter]

okay then! epic get that damage yea

[tribal isle]

What’s the last accessory

[unique warren]

It’s just post-golem, then post-lunatic, then post-ML

[fathom girder]

OH does the regen candle count for regenator

would you know

[unique warren]

So only a tier in between lol

[fathom girder]

arc flash ring, more passive extra damage

With amulet of vexation giving me another 15% I have so much free damage

[tribal isle]

First time seeing that thing

[fathom girder]

It's my favorite accessory

[high scaffold]

Honestly, I prefer statis over asgardian in late game

[boreal pewter]

No that's special life regen same as regenator, so it actually heals you

[fathom girder]

I love my rams sorry

Ohhh cool actually

[tribal isle]

No way

[fathom girder]

I'll use that candle as extra regen then

[unique warren]

It’s just a thing where Terraprisma is the primary post-ML summon in vanilla so idk why it’s not even remotely viable at that stage in cal

But I’ve been over this before and the consensus is that it shouldn’t be for some reason so whatever

[high scaffold]

You can get knockback immunity from other accs easily, 6 def wont do much difference at that point and statis is also much longer and faster and it also gives movement buffs

[fathom girder]

what's the highest damage weapon in postgame rn

I wanna see what this build pushes out of it lul

[unique warren]

Base damage or dps

[fathom girder]

Dps

[unique warren]

Constant or like, every once in a while (mostly stealth strikes)

[fathom girder]

constant cuz I'm using the melee auric set for this

[high scaffold]

Who needs dps in post game when you can have bling

[unique warren]

(I don’t know the answer regardless)

[tribal isle]

Pretty sure the party canon isn’t dethroned

[fathom girder]

Sorry

[unique warren]

So not Earth either

[fathom girder]

party cannon?

[tribal isle]

Whatever it’s called

[unique warren]

Rainbow Party Cannon is what it’s called pretty sure ya

[fathom girder]

that's right but idk if I can really make use of that

cuz I don't have any regen or mana accessories

[unique warren]

Legit just use a mana regen potion

Unless cal nerfs the shit out of it (good)

[fathom girder]

wait uhhhhhhhhh is iridescent excalibur or whatever it's called still topping the charts after the nerf

[tribal isle]

Isn’t that dead

[unique warren]

Uhhh well it doesn’t exist

[fathom girder]

whatever the sword is that replaced it

that has a worse name

[tribal isle]

Turned into orderbringer

[fathom girder]

because iridescent excalibur was the better name

ORDERBRINGER that's the one

[unique warren]

No way it’s better than postgame weapons

[tribal isle]

Orderbringer is a cooler name

[unique warren]

I don’t feel any way about either

Is there any single weapon that out-DPSes Earth

Like a full Summoner build could outcompete a full Melee build with Earth but like is there any weapon that can by itself

[unique warren]

Damn what were you running 😭

[lapis oak]

glorpshit

[unique warren]

I will pretend to know what that means

[lapis oak]

I have 3 nukes

and a Giga Nuke (Psycho Knife)

the melee Gem oneshotted 1 Brother without any Rippers lol

[cinder hearth]

Probably Flamsteed ring by itself already could?

Idk how much stronger the current earth is but also rainbow party cannon used to be near the top too for boss rush clears, and above old melee setups.

[unique warren]

I see

That would be… absurd if true

[fathom girder]

Finally, a good healing potion nerf

[unique warren]

[dense sundial]

right

[fathom girder]

oooooooooooooookay tainted orderbringer is STILL fucking insane

Like competes with earth if not still faster than earth

lmao

[tropic jolt]

🐟✍️

[unique warren]

Does it still shoot projectiles

[fathom girder]

No, it's only got the on-hit effect now

[unique warren]

Still absurd

But tbf it has way way less range and no healing

[fathom girder]

yeah

so ig it's a fair tradeoff

still insane that it deletes so insanely hard still tho

like boss rush is evaporating to this

[lapis oak]

hmm no Rampart needs to be put down

I want 100% damage dealt be the Gems

5% contribution that's too much

[tribal isle]

Why isn’t it called staff of mechworm now

[fathom girder]

Because it's cooler

[dull heart]

why would it be called staff of the mechworm

[tropic jolt]

😨

[unique warren]

I mean idk there is good reason for it to be

But this is cooler

[dull heart]

there is not

dog is not a mech worm

he's an armored worm

[unique warren]

Okay good point actually lmfao

[next junco]

dog malice is kinda difficult but its done

[dull heart]

peak

[tribal isle]

Dog is not eating void

[dull heart]

how was the desperation phase

[next junco]

stomach ache

[next junco]

i dont wanna talk about it

[dull heart]

I haven't seen anyone finish the desp phase since 2.1.2 lol

I'm sure people have I just haven't actually seen it yet

[next junco]

had to save adrenaline rage and abyss rage to just try and skip it

[dull heart]

ahh

[high scaffold]

I wonder, since the DoG's resprite was scrapped, is it possible that his design will go away from just worm

[dull heart]

Yeah I should make that les shippable

[next junco]

i was not doing that shit legit

[high scaffold]

I still remember the eel DoG concept

[next junco]

dog x eater of worlds

[dull heart]

I should make him just unable to be hit under 10%

[fathom girder]

evil

evil evil evil

[next junco]

nah just make it so unless you playing melee you just die when he spawns

[dull heart]

He's already unable to be hit once he begins dashes

You can just melt before he actually begins the dashes

[next junco]

im struggleing more with providence ngl

cant hit her with true melee

[fathom girder]

you should triple DoG's health so you can't do enough damage

[next junco]

triple his speed too

[fathom girder]

I don't think that's possible

[next junco]

just make him teleport without warnings too

[dull heart]

I could do it

[amber egret]

he has a desp?

[fathom girder]

waaaaaaait wait that gives me a horrible idea

in desp phase he should like. reach into the multiverse

[next junco]

he starts tweaking with teleports

[fathom girder]

and have 2 or 3 different DoGs ALSO doing the glass-break dash thing

[amber egret]

i havent seen that i dont think

[next junco]

bring back cosmic servants

[fathom girder]

try rungodding THAT

[amber egret]

one of the glass shatters fires various gore projectiles, another fires a set of three hyperrifts

[high scaffold]

Calamity hype is kinda like: a little hype in early game, hype bump on BoC, then slow but constant hype increase, insane hype spike on DoG, then it falls and goes pretty flat

[fathom girder]

make malice dog truly impossible

[amber egret]

calamitas is pretty hype

exos is uh

[dull heart]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/711268703991365642/1477092426102472904/DoG.mp4?ex=69a57b45&is=69a429c5&hm=604c9558d7b8d8f470f72a95d7701e21e5690602725b501dd8065382a7f6ac9d&

[amber egret]

Something.

[dull heart]

10x hp

[fathom girder]

exos certainly is a thing

[amber egret]

oh i thought he was gonna be a lot faster with the teleports

like monstrously fast

[fathom girder]

Well

something not immediately noticeable here

is those are predictive dashes

[amber egret]

yeah thats

[fathom girder]

DoG is predictive in malice

:D

[amber egret]

not too big a problem

[tropic jolt]

[fathom girder]

you'd think..

[amber egret]

genuinely if i get the timing down we kosher

i thought his teleports woulda been a lot faster and more uh

[dull heart]

the laser walls make it quite hard

[amber egret]

more panicky?

basically i want to see DoG scared

[dull heart]

malice dog doesn't get scared

[fathom girder]

a god doesn't fear death

you know this

[amber egret]

yeah but he's no god

[fathom girder]

why would he be scared

[dull heart]

He only loses because he is taking it easy

[amber egret]

would a very high and mighty person not get spooked if i started killing them

[high scaffold]

I realy do want to see whatever hype nuke yharon rework is going to be after experiencing reworked DoG

[fathom girder]

yharon rework into current exos would be the highest of highs into the utter lowest of lows

would be extremely funny

[amber egret]

"dude yharon was Awesome i wonder what exos is gonna be l-"
Dump - DELTARUNE Chapter 3

[fathom girder]

sad trombone riff

[high scaffold]

At least there is a mod just to remake the exos boss fight, unlike the yharon

[fathom girder]

TRUE wrath of the machines

the goat

[pseudo pine]

random question but has anything with invoked stargod happened recently

[tropic jolt]

so wrathful

[amber egret]

wotm is, from my experience really cool but also like

not insanely hard

or not hard really

[fathom girder]

it's a good fight

that's the goal here

[amber egret]

its fun! i like the fight

[fathom girder]

don't dark souls yourself into "it's harrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrd it HAS to be hard or it isn't good"

that's like

second banana to being a good fight

[high scaffold]

Wotm is realy fun, the difficulty is moderate

[amber egret]

i mean not even that

[unique warren]

Something something Shush mentions Souls being peak

[fathom girder]

blows you up

[pseudo pine]

literally just current dog to current yharon lmao

[tropic jolt]

I cant wait for eternity calamitas!!!

[amber egret]

souls dlc or actual dark souls

[amber egret]

i can wait .

[high scaffold]

The Ares'es big 3D-ish laser that covers half of the screen

[amber egret]

800 damage per hit .

[amber egret]

just go in a circle

[unique warren]

Fargo soul

[pseudo pine]

like current yharon isnt the absolute worst boss ever
but still it absolutely pales in comparison to dog

[unique warren]

It’s so peak

[high scaffold]

Ik, very easy to dodge but it has so much aura

[tropic jolt]

wotm do you have hype moments and aura?

we have hype moments and aura.

[amber egret]

current yharon will be getting the Feral Bobber treatment until he gets reworked

because he's just

not fun

[pseudo pine]

what do you mean feral bobber

[amber egret]

feral bobber + silva armor + devourer of cods + iv drip on the rocks

[fathom girder]

You should look at what feral bobber foes

[high scaffold]

Yharon realy is just a chicken nugget of a boss right now

[amber egret]

stick that to a foe and they just. cease to be

[fathom girder]

I wonder if that combo can work in boss rush

Because that would be very funny

[pseudo pine]

it doesnt specifically say how much

[fathom girder]

Oh

Rest assured it does a lot

[pseudo pine]

wouldnt your hp like
go to the drain if you do that though

[fathom girder]

It would!

[amber egret]

well since you need silva revive to proc, you kill yourself on like

[fathom girder]

If you adrenaline

[amber egret]

Crab

[fathom girder]

Oh

I see

[pseudo pine]

whats its dps

[fathom girder]

Yes

[amber egret]

you dont need to use silva, but it does drain all your hp

[amber egret]

like a billion

[lapis oak]

dead already

[pseudo pine]

so a revive option is a decent idea

[amber egret]

its mostly required

[pseudo pine]

unless you want a heart attack because of a fishing rod

[fathom girder]

My gramps had a heart attack when fishing

Musta been using that combo

[pseudo pine]

also why is iv drip on the rocks a thing
it doesnt look any different from the actual alcohol

[fathom girder]

It isn't

[amber egret]

its not tmk

[fathom girder]

You are correct

[amber egret]

you just get double the effects

but also two alcohol

[fathom girder]

The idea is just so cool that the devs decided fuck it

Why not

[pseudo pine]

wait you can stack both it and old fashioned

[fathom girder]

Mhm

[amber egret]

mhm

[fathom girder]

It starts to get real funny

I still wanna figure out the best accessory only loadout for endgame

Gemtech is good but painfully slow

[amber egret]

is Transformer in there

[fathom girder]

There's gotta be more to it

[amber egret]

Gem Tech is not an accessory

[fathom girder]

Transformer is not in there

[amber egret]

Whaaaat

[pseudo pine]

i remember seeing a clip of someone one shotting catastrophe with that armor set's gem

[fathom girder]

It's a hardmode accessory it has no place in endgame

[amber egret]

and its still decent

[fathom girder]

Ye it's nuclear. Issue is that it takes 30 seconds to charge

So the cal fight took 11 minutes

Or something like that

[pseudo pine]

one tapping a brother is silly though

also if you want a powerful endgame accessory the calamity is actually fairly decent now

[fathom girder]

HJrm

[amber egret]

is tastrophe the one with the sword

or is that clsym

[lapis oak]

sword

[amber egret]

fuuuuck i thought cataclysm was the one with the sword

[lapis oak]

I mean u can just look at the HP

[amber egret]

bc of all the ls and ys

[tropic jolt]

but which one is worlds end everlasting falling whale

[lapis oak]

u mama

[tropic jolt]

🐳

[lapis oak]

Purple Haze's tooltip should reword the "all damage" to "non-stealth strike rogue damage" (or "all rogue damage" since stealth strike damage decrease is mentioned after that)

this is confusing

why is it worded like that

[unique warren]

I sure do love drinking the drink that makes rogue interesting

[lapis oak]

it doesn't increase all damage

[unique warren]

I’d say make it “, excluding stealth strike damage which is…”

[unique warren]

Like, that mechanic single-handedly gives rogue some identity it’s peak

[dull heart]

All damage is increased by 25%

[unique warren]

But not stealth strike damage?

[lapis oak]

?

so wiki just lies that's awesome

[dull heart]

It might check to hold a rogue weapon

but it's still all damage

technically stealth strikes might get the +25% dmg (additive) (I don't remember), but your stealth dmg stat gets hit by 0.75x

[fathom girder]

what else would I put here for an accessory focused loadout anyway

Like there's gotta be something

[dull heart]

The Pointer

For Calamity

[fathom girder]

I'm already pointing...

[dull heart]

not as well as the pointer does

[fathom girder]

there's no way

[dull heart]

yup

[strange cargo]

Wait the pointer works for the cursor effects?

[fathom girder]

you suuure

or is super dummy not accurate

[dull heart]

You haven't

Targeted the dummy with the pointer yet

[fathom girder]

Oh

I thought the-

okay yeah now it's working that's amusing

[unique warren]

Pointer is so ahh ngl

[dull heart]

Ok

[fathom girder]

urgh the damage isn't HIGH enough it's still like 40k

that's it

I'm taking out the alcohols

[unique warren]

What is this for exactly

[hazy yoke]

why does triactis true mage hammer of might suck now

[unique warren]

Does it?

[unique warren]

I see

[hazy yoke]

it seems like it

[dull heart]

It doesn't

[unique warren]

Yeah I thought so too it seems good

[hazy yoke]

wait nvm I used it against scal and it seemed bad but it seems better against exos

[unique warren]

Idk why it would suck for scal other than hearts

[hollow root]

why is there no item to auto-summon the martians

https://tenor.com/view/agony-gif-23084585

[unique warren]

The humble Fargo mutant mod

[dull heart]

There is

[lean relic]

crowd control

[unique warren]

What’s crowd control for scal other than hearts? I guess Soul Seekers?

[dull heart]

?? https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Martian_Distress_Remote

[lapis oak]

assuming people will check NPC's new shop items

[next junco]

just use a whip to target

[hollow harness]

The big ❗ above NPCs

[fathom girder]

Okay point doesn't seem very helpful

it's like

not attacking the boss half the time lol

[unique warren]

What does that have to do with this

[fathom girder]

I'll just toss on yharim's gift or sumn

[next junco]

whip can make summons target hearts

[unique warren]

Okay sure but

[hard copper]

Could do reaper tooth

[unique warren]

What does that have to do with Triactis

[next junco]

idk i thought soul seeker was a summon weapon ngl

[fathom girder]

I could indeed do reaper tooth

[unique warren]

There is a weapon that summons them but I meant the enemy in the scal boss

[next junco]

ig photoviserator is alright for it

and yharims crystal

[unique warren]

Well I mean I was talking about a specific weapon but yeah those seem good

[hollow root]

3 invasions, 7 saucers, and 0 xeno staffs

[unique warren]

Yeah that’s rough, bud

[shell cloud]

so i saw that SSO will not be the next update, did they ever give a time frame of when the update will be added?

[fathom girder]

Sso likely will not exist

[lean relic]

no stomp
Tomorrow is another day

[fathom girder]

It'll have a different name so y'know technically whatever- they didn't give us a time regardless

[shell cloud]

so most likely a big delay on it, is what it is i guess

[thorny glacier]

changelogs tomorrow

[lean relic]

devs are burned out and doesnt want to work sso for now

[shell cloud]

yea i read the pinned message, thx tho

[hollow root]

WHY DOES THE DAZZLING STABBER STAFF DO THAT

WHY WON'T IT SHUT UP

[mystic eagle]

Bug

[hollow root]

OK SO

the wiki recommends it

but how necessary is it really

do i NEED to put up with this to progress

[main estuary]

i think you can use virid vanguard instead

[hollow root]

vanguard is fun

ok i've muted my game. This is still awful to look at lmao

[noble kindle]

will there be a 2 big update this year?

[hollow root]

OKAY OPERATION BLIND AND DEAF SIGNUS IS A SUCCESS

[dull heart]

Wiki isn't updated yet

[barren nacelle]

Please don’t trust the class setup pages

That’s not my domain I haven’t been able to touch it

[brittle escarp]

I know this is more of a general TModloader question, but does anyone have a guess on when TModLoader has a whole will update to 1.4.5?

[lean relic]

9 months from what they said

[brittle escarp]

Oh dang

And 1.4.5 was in what, December?

No, end of January

dang

[dusk bronze]

they said probably less than 9 months

reading comprehension

[hollow root]

Are then uhhh, any good sources then?

[hollow harness]

6-10 months

[hollow root]

also I still have no idea how one is even meant to go about the Ceaseless Void fight

[hollow harness]

Experiment

[tropic jolt]

stay close to the boss and minimize movement

[lean relic]

^

[dusk bronze]

move as little as possible

[polar tide]

remember it is always moral to skip ceaseless void if you need to. i hate that little cunt and i almost always end up skipping it

[hollow root]

this is what i've done in the past lol

[strange cargo]

Dont mess with us terraria fans , we don’t know how to read

[hollow root]

but my dps this run is insane so with enough time i could def brute force my way through

[hollow harness]

City Bristol fans

[polar tide]

ah fighting for your honor then

good luck

[wary crest]

Ceaseless a bitch
So is polter but I think I just suck at true melee

[hollow root]

exactly lol

[lean relic]

sorry readAbility was disabled here

[hollow root]

OH

SPEAKING OF MY HONOR

I BEAT PLAGUEBRINGER PRE-MOONLORD THIS RUN LOL

idk what it is about that mf, but i SUCK at that fight

[dusk bronze]

happens

[blazing field]

thta fucking door that i hate

[lean relic]

A flying Distortion glass door

[polar tide]

ceaseless void hate compilation

[vivid hemlock]

🔥

[earnest jewel]

Real.

[arctic cliff]

am i crazy or was providence supposed to be changed so you could fight her anywhere instead of just in the hallow or underworld

[polar tide]

youre probably getting confused with how her nighttime enrage was removed

[earnest jewel]

Providence will be able to be all terrain sometime.
We just need to install these all terrain wheels.

[polar tide]

im assuming provi's spawn conditions are remnants of old lore cuz they're so weird

i can see underworld for lore reasons that idk if theyre public or not so i wont share but hallow is so strange

[dusk bronze]

no it wasn't even lore related really 😭

[polar tide]

is it because of "well its Purity"

that would be so stupid

[polar tide]

SO LIKE WHY

[dusk bronze]

she killed dragon of flame who was in the underworld

[polar tide]

yeah thats what i was thinking of wasnt sure if that was public or not though

whwnver theres like a lore thing im hesistant on mentioning it unless im 1000% sure its already known

[earnest jewel]

It wouldn't make sense, since purity is purity, not Hallow.

But it's been quite a bit of time, surely she has figured out how to leave hell at some point.

[polar tide]

yeah but why JUST the hallow

i dont think it makes sense for her to be confined to a biome in the first place but the hallow and the underworld???

[earnest jewel]

Old Lore something something she is holy and cleanses (by murder).

[vivid hemlock]

the angel and demon war

[dusk bronze]

the actual reason is because fighting her in hell every time was too annoying

[polar tide]

.....so instead of just removing the spawn condition. it became "you can now fight her in the hallow"

[earnest jewel]

New lore reason idea: She is in the Hallow because LGTV.

[polar tide]

this mod is a joke

[hard copper]

Is it like hallow = heaven and underworld = hell?

[dusk bronze]

correct!

[dusk bronze]

something like that probably

[polar tide]

this would be so unbelievably stupid

[hard copper]

True

[earnest jewel]

Ah, wait, clearly it's because the Hallow is BLUE.

[polar tide]

so much so that i wouldnt be surprised if that was the thought process

[dusk bronze]

yeah it literally was i think

[polar tide]

LMFAOOOO

[earnest jewel]

Also to be hallowed means to be holy.

[polar tide]

wow really

[lean relic]

she is unholy who wants to "purify" everything in sight by burning

[earnest jewel]

I mean, Terraria's console edition literally had an achievement called 'Hallowed be thy name' for having the Hallow.

[polar tide]

i was being sarcastic

[dusk bronze]

in old lore she was like
50/50 holy and unholy

but the hell spawn condition was from before old lore

so idk how that started

[polar tide]

goofy

[dusk bronze]

and the hallow was added bc she needed a surface spawn and the hallow was tangentially thematically related

[steel pike]

hi

[hollow harness]

iron maiden reference

[dusk bronze]

and we've been stuck like that for 5 ½ years

[earnest jewel]

Sure let's go with that (I don't know what you're talking about).

[steel pike]

carny what do you think of the wall of flesh idea

if you saw it

[polar tide]

idk what the current plans for providence are i havent asked but i can't imagine the spawn condition will be staying unless laura like shocks me with some 5k word essay on why it makes sense

[polar tide]

i did not

[lean relic]

Will everything about her spawn will be changed when this keeped

[dusk bronze]

killing you

[earnest jewel]

What.

[steel pike]

ok so there is a mod that lets you play as the wall of flesh

you have the same abilities but you can only move in 1 direction for the whole game

[lean relic]

❌

[polar tide]

oh yeah i watched that

[steel pike]

the goal is to beat the hardest version of calamity mod as wof

[polar tide]

good video

[steel pike]

yes I love it

[distant raft]

i dont get the hate its just a boss that requires being approached with a slightly different mindset

[polar tide]

oh i didnt see calamtiy video

[steel pike]

There isn’t one

Unfortunately

but just think about the possibilities

[polar tide]

fuck

[dusk bronze]

even so, it's way too overly punishing imo

[steel pike]

ikr

or like king slime or something

[earnest jewel]

The mindset is hatred in your heart. Is that what you want from the players? Hatred, malice and death?

[lean relic]

Its okay bros just trying to be different than others

[polar tide]

its about going back to the forsaken archive over and over to fight an uninteresting boss that i dont find fun

[earnest jewel]

You don't have to go to the archive...

[distant raft]

^

just the dungeon

[earnest jewel]

I fight it on the surface.

[dusk bronze]

set up a teleporter it takes like 2 minutes

[lean relic]

LOL???

[hard copper]

Archive is often close to crags so I just tp to my crags pylon and dig up to archive

[polar tide]

oh sorry. its about making an arena in the dungeon that i then have to go back to over and over for an uninteresting boss that i dont find fun

[earnest jewel]

That's why I use my Skeletron arena.

Old reliable.

[desert garnet]

Place a bed

Make a house near your arena

[dusk bronze]

also that

[polar tide]

ive had to do this in the past yes

[buoyant pulsar]

why can't ppl understand that cv is just ass in our opinion

[distant raft]

because i genuinely cannot understand what is unlikable about the fight

it actually punishes flailing around

[rare tinsel]

flailing around like a fly stuck in a car is like, the national hobby

[buoyant pulsar]

it punishes using your brain because if you try to actually move out of the way it just moves the entire array into your face again

cv makes me crave death

[buoyant pulsar]

'flesh prison is a fun boss' ahh take just saying

[fathom girder]

CV is the worst boss fight in the entire mod

[buoyant pulsar]

at least flesh prison can be fun

[fathom girder]

straight up

[buoyant pulsar]

[fathom girder]

even with it standing completely still the orbs evade all understanding

like I can try my fucking hardest to dodge them

[rare tinsel]

the worst boss is the one that i dislike most in the moment

[fathom girder]

but I always get hit

[distant raft]

i always thought the dark energies' movements were decently simple

[fathom girder]

and I can't like space it cuz then CV just flies into me

[buoyant pulsar]

the harder you try to dodge the shittier the boss gets

[fathom girder]

and I take damage

It's just BAD

[lean relic]

im fine with death cv
I HATE ftw cv
ftw cv forcing you to move a lot

[buoyant pulsar]

top 10 bosses to face tank to

[fathom girder]

top 3 bosses to cheatkill because they're dogshit:
1: CV
2: Signus
3: Stormweaver

[dusk bronze]

[barren nacelle]

I like cv 🥺

[distant raft]

signus does nothing and dies

[buoyant pulsar]

i dont even care that you can't hurt it all the time or whatever its the fucking dark energy's chaos theory ahh movement and the bullshit lightning sphere things that shoot HOMING PROJECTILES UP UR ASS WHILE YOU'RE DOING CALCULUS IN UR HEAD

[distant raft]

storm weaver dies before it even gets an opportunity to do anything

[barren nacelle]

Storm weaver is barely a boss

Signus too

[fathom girder]

CV does a little wooOOOOoOOOooOOOoOOOOo and either you die instantly or it dies instantly

[distant raft]

"calculus" and its just spinning

[barren nacelle]

Miniboss at best because that seems to be their original purpose

[fathom girder]

I can't wait for the day they get their reworks

[buoyant pulsar]

you need a fucking math degree to dodge dark energies

[polar tide]

i do not like fights that entirely center around being as still as possible lest the boss flies to your position and snipes you

[buoyant pulsar]

even flesh prison is more fun than ceaseless void

[polar tide]

i like it when a boss has attacks where the idea is be still and make microadjustments but i hate when that's the idea of the enitre fight

i dont find it fun and ceaseless void is also incredibly boring aesthetically

[buoyant pulsar]

agree

[fathom girder]

Providence cocoon phase? Beautiful, engaging, fun, 8/10

[distant raft]

youre talking about the part of the fight where dark energies are purely projectiles and are converging in on ceaseless because thats where the energy orbs are

[fathom girder]

CV? 0/10 never call me again

It's literally flirting vs harrassment

LITERALLY

[distant raft]

it is genuinely just a four armed blender

[polar tide]

if you're fighting a gateway to the distortion something a bit cooler than Purple Orbs Spiraling Around should be happening

[buoyant pulsar]

any finesse you could possibly figure out how to apply is thrown out the window when the stupid light blue orbs start shooting homing projectiles at you

[fathom girder]

Brain of cthulhu does the "orbs spiraling around you" attack better

[earnest jewel]

Make the Horrors come out of it and try to Horror you.

[fathom girder]

that is a PREHARDMODE BOSS

[polar tide]

even if you think there's nothing unlikeable about ceaseless void there's not really anything that's generally interesting or likeable about it either and calamity should not settle for "it's passable" in its boss design

i would like to actively be having fun when i am playing the game

[dusk bronze]

pleas make a new cv concept and have 2.3 be the distortion trio reworks i will bless your family for generations

[fathom girder]

I want to vomit

they cannot be good as long as you call them "the distortion trio"

You don't call the mechs "The metallic trio"

[dusk bronze]

you got a better name or

[fathom girder]

yeah

"The ourples"

[dusk bronze]

[fathom girder]

because they all share the trait of being purple

[polar tide]

hmmm

[earnest jewel]

What else?
Team Potential?

[fathom girder]

"The distorted" I GUESS could make sense but I think it should be one word

like how it's "The mechs"

[distant raft]

:hms: i think you just can't switch between micros and macros quickly

[dusk bronze]

> the distorted
> doesn't include dog

[deft lily]

calamity mod

[fathom girder]

DoG was perfected and hired by some bitch idk

[distant raft]

if you move fast enough eg. keeping up with the arms you'll outrun the projectiles

[earnest jewel]

Also, the Mechanical Trio and the Three Mechanical Bosses are common terms for the mechs.

[dusk bronze]

also the mechs are absolutely called the mechanical trio

[fathom girder]

THEY AREN'T

oh my god if they are

I'm

[dusk bronze]

lore item

[fathom girder]

going to pay a visit to relogic

[polar tide]

i really cant say whether this would happen because i cannot predict what the team is gonna be feeling like after 2.2 but tbh i could see 2.3 being focused on boss reworks

[polar tide]

i'd love for the distortion trio to get their own themes and have sots be a legacy music box

[dusk bronze]

yesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyes

[dull heart]

I think SotS should stay on at least one of them

probably void

[polar tide]

as long as i am alive i will be pestering cdmusic about it so dont worry

[polar tide]

would this not be most fitting for weaver

[fathom girder]

ending it all brb

[dusk bronze]

it's fitting enough for weaver yeah

[arctic cliff]

yknow what

[polar tide]

i'd say weaver is more connected to dog than ceaseless is

[arctic cliff]

what if instead SotS was their first phase themes

[dull heart]

yeah but weaver has the worst SOTS

[earnest jewel]

Add a new character; John Distortion and give him Servants of the Scourge.
He's the guy who polishes his armour.

[polar tide]

no

[arctic cliff]

and after a phase, they swap themes to something unique to themselves

[dusk bronze]

bad

[dusk bronze]

why would you give the illusion that they're part of a matched set still

[fathom girder]

THE SPAWN IN SOUND IS TOO GOOD FOR THE FIGHT

actually

[polar tide]

sots legacy music box doze

[fathom girder]

It's like this menacing ass

[dull heart]

that's lame

[fathom girder]

"You've opened a door you shouldn't have"

[arctic cliff]

you can just do a music toggle incase you want the best of both worlds

[fathom girder]

and then the fight is whatever the fuck CV is

[polar tide]

if it stays on one of the bosses there is literally no objective reason for it to stay on cv instead of weaver

[dull heart]

Realistically yeah we'll probably have a toggle for any boss thene

[polar tide]

you know im right

[dull heart]

why would it be on weaver

[polar tide]

do you know the lore

[earnest jewel]

The lore...

[dull heart]

i thought so but now I'm doubting

[polar tide]

the problem with sots is the prominent doggy-ness of it

[fathom girder]

Storm weaver acted once as a SENTINEL for DoG in the VOID

[dusk bronze]

patreon leak: i once brought this up to fabsol and he said the thought of replacing any dokuro music made him want to vomit
so uh
glad he's gone

[polar tide]

weaver is far more tied to dog than cv is to dog

[dusk bronze]

this is true

[polar tide]

bro was well aware that was the only shit keeping his mod in business. lol

[dull heart]

solution: distortion motif

[fathom girder]

Probably because the reddit would swarm his building and set fire to everything if that happens

[earnest jewel]

They have so much in common. They're both worms, for instance.

[polar tide]

solution: yo mama!

[lean relic]

we dont have distorion motif
composers make one

[cerulean plinth]

I hope that the next calamity update is gonna have Yharim in it... the one after the Yharon sprite rework ofc.

[earnest jewel]

It will not.

[polar tide]

lol

[dusk bronze]

[lean relic]

[cerulean plinth]

...

[dusk bronze]

also yharon resprite probably isn't coming next tbh

[polar tide]

whenver i see a message like this i cant tell if its someone doing a bit or if bro is jusr new

[wary crest]

Yharim before 2040

[cerulean plinth]

am I still stuck in 2022 mind set?

[dusk bronze]

yharim will be in the final update

asterisk

[earnest jewel]

It's a mindset, certainly.

[polar tide]

no

[dusk bronze]

no as in it's not or i'm incorrect

[dull heart]

anyway it's true that replacing dokuro themes has to be done with immense care

[polar tide]

no as in the next calamity update will not have yharon rework in it

[wary crest]

As in yall will get crucified by Reddit?

[tropic jolt]

500 more configs to calamity mod!

[dull heart]

I think the Dokuro theme that'll probably need changing most is actually ravagers

[polar tide]

admittedly this is something that frustrates me. i absolutely understand why its like this but man

[steel pike]

why are u guys replacing them?

[dull heart]

I didn't say we were

[arctic cliff]

oop theres one

ANYHOW

[dusk bronze]

it begins

[frozen horizon]

Does it fit the Ravager post-rework?

[steel pike]

Ohh my fault

[dull heart]

Likely not

[steel pike]

Just assumed so based on that

[earnest jewel]

The hypothetical is for the Distortion Trio because there's not much reason for them all to have such similar themes, being just different parts of one song.

[arctic cliff]

imo a lot of them are perfectly fine regardless of their bossfights

[steel pike]

True

[arctic cliff]

theres only a few outliers really

[polar tide]

i can live with open frenzy not completely fitting ravager's reworked fight

what i can't live with is all three of the distortion trio sharing a theme, AND that theme being so tied to dog

[frozen horizon]

Will the Cosmic Worm recipe be reworked in the Distortion update?

[lean relic]

redd*t is limbo, the darkest place in all cal community

[polar tide]

i doubt it'll even still be a thing in the distortion update

[dusk bronze]

i hope it'll be removed

[tropic jolt]

the step below hell 😨

[dusk bronze]

also will dragonfolly get a new theme that doesn't have infernal catharsis motif

[frozen horizon]

What? How can you get rid of my slime crown copypaste items?

[polar tide]

i can't see a future where we add the distortion and dog's proper fight and still have him be summoned by a "cosmic worm"

[arctic cliff]

its also that, to be quite honest, they're all pretty good themes anyhow
it doesnt really matter if providence's theme doesnt fully fit her nature, her theme is already easily one of the best in the entire soundtrack anyways

[lean relic]

yk considering i made this

will it be real

[polar tide]

we dont know girl

[arctic cliff]

honestly yknow what

[polar tide]

distortion update is way too far away

[frozen horizon]

They got rid of big dog.

[dusk bronze]

i was really banking on a spawn animation where he actually bursts through the sky

[arctic cliff]

i think they should rework the cosmic worm's use animation to be something you throw at the sky to create a rift, and dog then comes out of that

[dusk bronze]

literally the only disappointing thing about the fight

[earnest jewel]

He should say 'It's devouring time!' and devour all over the place.

[polar tide]

im not sure any of us want to go through the effort of making a big aurafarming dog spawn animation when this isn't his final rework but idk im not a programmer maybe big E will show up in dev tomorrow with one

[dusk bronze]

i wonder if you'll even fight dog in terraria

might be entirely distortion

[frozen horizon]

Maybe you get teleported between for phase 2🤔

[lean relic]

nice, another food for spoiler folks

[radiant flower]

been reading the wiki and it changes between flask of ichor and flask of crumbling in some post ml bosses, is there a reason for this? aint crumbling just strictly better

rogue, if that matters

[dusk bronze]

evil and intimidating loading screen

[polar tide]

it used to be in the future content doc that dog was going to drag you to the distortion for phase 2 but i dont know if anyone proposing that idea had a solution for the fact that there'd be a loading screen between subworlds and would completely kill the momentum of the fight

[dusk bronze]

that plan predates 22 fun fact

[polar tide]

you're fucking kidding me

they were just putting anything in the future content doc huh

[tropic jolt]

you could technically have it be a fake subworld like AoE but that would take a LOT of work

[frozen horizon]

You're a dev, are you kept in the dark about future plans?

[polar tide]

what?

[dusk bronze]

it was proposed alongside iban dog but never got explicitly deconfirmed and like
it still made enough sense post 22

[polar tide]

i'm talking about the future content doc that's maintained by the community

for people outside of dev

[vocal kelp]

yeah this was like the whole thing yeah

like this didnt stop

[earnest jewel]

We need an alternate future content doc where it just makes up stuff.

[vocal kelp]

this hasnt stopped

theres a whole section at the end for random bullshit devs say

[polar tide]

i forgot about that LOL

[frozen horizon]

Put the doc on Fandom, then simply wait and see.

[vocal kelp]

its frankly my biggest regret over it like we shouldnt have added literally everything ever like that,

[barren nacelle]

I mean we’ve definitely debloated it

[vocal kelp]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mvnzVecDRuzemnfx5ZbEJSzQgT0XUMhRC3R67mmfcxQ/edit?tab=t.0 this exists for that, it's public, everyone can do it