calamity-update-talk

[rare tinsel]

I think it's just because summoner is a nightmare to balance

Back in 2.0.whatever summoner was the best class in the game and it's not even close

Kaleidoscope was the top of SS tier best weapon in the game

It's the entire reason for why summoner was so strong and adding an upgrade to it would either go the way of making the overpowered class more overpowered or being weaker than kaleidoscope and thus completely irrelevant

[tribal isle]

Is that not the case

Anymore

[rare tinsel]

In 2.1.0 whips got nerfed but summoner is still the strongest

Just not by as much...

[gloomy grove]

waiting on 1.4.5

they would much rather touch summoner once they have their hands on 1.4.5 instead of doing it now and then doing it again down the road

[rare tinsel]

The devs are planning on a complete summoner balance overhaul to hopefully fix that whip issue once and for all

mm hm, 1.4.5 will add new whips which can skew balance a lot

[tribal isle]

I think hotdog handled it perfectly with the goozma whip

[rare tinsel]

kekw

the issue with whips isn't that the whips are too strong

It's that any whip is too strong

[frozen horizon]

?

[rare tinsel]

Summoner is more or less balanced to be functional with minions only. But that isn't how real people use summoner

Real people use summoner by using whips, sentries, and support weapons

[tribal isle]

I would be bored out of my mind if I was playing summoner without direct input from me

[lapis oak]

Summoner was balanced in 1.3

Then 1.4 came and yeah

[rare tinsel]

So it's taking a regular old class that does fine but ADDING an extra source of damage output in the form of whips, sentries and everything else

Imagine if melee had a whip, except you can use it and your primary weapon at the same time

And it boosted your damage output by 1.21x

[frozen horizon]

Off-Topic, why isn't your name “De
hrahngehd Lihzahrd”?

[rare tinsel]

It's a translation

[frozen horizon]

Which part is translated?

[rare tinsel]

The entire thing

Lihzahrd has no translation in English so it's just transcribed directly

[tribal isle]

Would you rather have a lihzard son or a brimstone daughter

[rare tinsel]

Good question with a very easy answer

[tribal isle]

Are you biased perchance

[lapis oak]

Translate I eat limzard

[rare tinsel]

NO

[lean relic]

kiri what

[lapis oak]

Too bad you're the lunch now

Fried limzard

[rare tinsel]

boohoo~5

[fierce hearth]

Whips are cool but their position is so strange because they were added after summoner was already sorted out, and they didn't bother to reel in summoner to account for whips

Power creep...

[frail tapir]

Is that some kind of hook or accessories or smth? Cuz ain't gonna lie, the physics on that is good

How is that even kinda practical in actually boss fight? If that's made of auric then idk what to say

Why do you need to throw a lemonade? To hurt the eyes of bosses?

[frozen horizon]

Isn't this from Thorium?

[frozen horizon]

Yeah this is it.

[tribal isle]

This should be the auric tier acrobatics pack

[polar tide]

fuck this gay ass terraria mod fraud TODAY

[frozen horizon]

Who?

[lapis oak]

BoC has 1 undodgeable attack right?

the fake charge attack

so is it just RNG for nohitters if they get that or not?

[pseudo vector]

its not undodgeable, its just difficult to figure out

[lapis oak]

that's dodgeable?

[pseudo vector]

also chat who is playing fraud later today

[amber egret]

MEEEEEEEE

[frozen horizon]

Fraud will come out tomorrow for me.

[amber egret]

MEEEEE IM GONNA DIE SO FUCKING MUCH BUT MEE

[polar tide]

https://tenor.com/view/cool-bad-to-the-bone-gif-20296695

[lapis oak]

ohhh I see it now

[amber egret]

my bingo card is exactly four slots: we're gonna get a new hand, we're gonna get a new gun, we're gonna fight a major significant character, and i'm gonna get fuckin lost

[wide nova]

I am literally god

almighty

[lapis oak]

still it's good that the fake charge only does like 1 damage but you can completely negate that lol, for nohitters

awesome attack

[amber egret]

if i get two of these right, im Awesome

[polar tide]

shut the fuck up fraud today

[amber egret]

sonic the literally exe:

[wide nova]

i dont play ultrapilled :(

[polar tide]

FIX THAT.

FRAUD

TODAY

[wide nova]

i tried it i didnt like it for some reason

[frozen horizon]

Nah, I respect that some people are waiting for the game to fully release before playing.

[polar tide]

loser

[wide nova]

i wasnt even bad at the game i judt didnt like the gameplay loop

[amber egret]

see just perform. Heh.

[wide nova]

its weird cause i like doom

[amber egret]

Tax Fraud

[wide nova]

i really like doom

idk why i dont like uk

[polar tide]

i fukcing have classes today plase god i hope it releases afterwrads

[amber egret]

i like Ultrakill but im not a fan of like

[frozen horizon]

calls someone a loser for not liking ultrakill
❤️‍🩹 w carny ❤️‍🩹

[wide nova]

i think partly plays into the overwhelming hype the game receives

[amber egret]

the level design

i like everything about ultrakill Except the levels

(they're really really mazelike and not very directional, very easy to get Lost)

[wide nova]

i typically dislike aligning myself with overly popular game titles until the hype dies out years later

then i play it

i find myself to enjoy it more when its no longer all over the internet

[amber egret]

i love playing unhyped 5 year later games

you're actually so Right on that one

[wide nova]

me the calamity dev says this

horrible hog ending

[frozen horizon]

I thought you were a mod only?

[amber egret]

Calamity is not overhyped

if anything its Underhyped for how Cool it is

[polar tide]

bro missed everything

[frozen horizon]

Calamity is only overhyped if it doesn't finish.

[wide nova]

cdmusic and i are the mod's musicians

[polar tide]

who is cdmusic

[frozen horizon]

I see.

[wide nova]

the goat

[amber egret]

(the term "Terraria Mod" doesnt ring as Awesomely as "First Person Shooter")

[polar tide]

why are you just making up devs

[wide nova]

i got hungry

[amber egret]

he made Beautify for The Walten Files Mod

[frozen horizon]

What songs have you made for the mod?

[polar tide]

OHHHHHHHH wait i know him

[amber egret]

i think he made something for this niche mod

dont remember exactly

called the Catalyst Mod or whatever? really boring

[polar tide]

sounds gay

[wide nova]

released - duke fishron, sandstorm
unreleased - blizzard, acid rain tiers 1-3, 1 sunken sea biome track

so far

[frozen horizon]

Why is Sunken Sea getting a new theme?

[wide nova]

new biome

wont come out for a while

[polar tide]

bro really did miss everything wow i was joking

[amber egret]

oo new acid rain theme ?

[wide nova]

just stated that it's already made

[amber egret]

Sunken Sea Biome

[wide nova]

ya 1 is nearing completion the others r not finished yet

[amber egret]

should specify

[amber egret]

do you have a Snippet that the public can be Teasered About

or does it have the OD Motif and therefore would spoil Noah's Arc Update

[wide nova]

it'll release on its own between now and the next update

it does

[frozen horizon]

You mean teased? I believe that is the past-tense verb for teaser.

[amber egret]

Wait What I Was Joking

[wide nova]

vaguely though

u wont rlly hear it till tier 3

[frozen horizon]

Is that a remake/deletion of tons of creatures?

[polar tide]

https://tenor.com/view/kitten-cute-cat-small-baby-gif-659641961704379992

[lapis oak]

did you ever be able to recover the OG tier 1

[wide nova]

somewhat

[wide nova]

no sadly, it corrupted

[amber egret]

okay so you know the Underground Desert

[lapis oak]

rip

[amber egret]

so imagine that but like

All Sunken Sea

and then More Sunken Sea

all the way to Hell

[wide nova]

it'd be more like the abyss in terms of total land it covers and have multiple new biomes and a lot more content

but that wonjt happen for a long time cause we simply dont feel like it rn

[amber egret]

here's a stupendously poor drawing i made while i was a tad worried abt it being a bit too big

[rotund venture]

Fish mines killed devs

[wide nova]

more or less

[rotund venture]

Go to dinosaur mines instead (AR)

[frozen horizon]

Huh?

[polar tide]

my cat

[amber egret]

(i still am a tad concerned abt it being That Fucking Large but like w/e)

[half vine]

astrageldon was certainly tough to the point i had to put everything to invigorating

[wide nova]

#calamity-addon-talk

[half vine]

but the boss fight was phenomenal

oh wrong channgel

[wide nova]

sorry user

agree tho

[polar tide]

yeah tahts right i can post my cat in any channel i want but the moment you start talking about addons in here

[wide nova]

is your cat name in the pet name pool

if so it's calamity content and therefore allowed

[polar tide]

no but they dont need to know that

[wide nova]

get it added

[rotund venture]

Are all the acid rain concepts thar were teased scrapped or just OD?

[frozen horizon]

Is there like a special underworld biome beneath or just ends there?

[amber egret]

i think theresl ike

[wide nova]

not public

[amber egret]

three or four more biomes

[wide nova]

wont be 4 a while

[amber egret]

but you basically got the idea

and i think it gets shunted up a bit

[wide nova]

cuz we havent ghotten to that point of dev to remake them yet

[polar tide]

i need to along with my 2 other kibys

[amber egret]

(2/8th desert, 6/8th various sunken sea)

[rotund venture]

Triangle ahowed a bunch tho?

A while ago

[frozen horizon]

Who?

[wide nova]

what is that pyramid

[wide nova]

oh then if tringle showed it then its public

im not knowledgable on whats been shown and what hasnt

[frozen horizon]

I think it's SotS? I just took this map from Reddit.

[amber egret]

thats not SotS

[wide nova]

prob remnants

[rotund venture]

Im not sure if what they showed is scrapped or not but if you can reveal then its whatevs

[frozen horizon]

That may have been it.

[rotund venture]

Cant*

[rotund venture]

Dev who makes extremely good sprites

[amber egret]

have i Seen these

[frozen horizon]

Like the new yharon?

[amber egret]

(i feel i would i just dont Remember)

[half vine]

what mod did you use for that big pyramid?

[rotund venture]

Future content doc has a bunch of stuff, armor resprites are (mostly) Triangle I think

[frozen horizon]

I took the image from reddit idk what mods it is.

[rotund venture]

So are all the acid rain enemy concepts

Pinned messages here, huge doc

[polar tide]

new yharon was made by dia

[lapis oak]

spriter dev

[frozen horizon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/568192082473386020/1469309400769368157/yharon_resprite_leak.png?ex=699e42c3&is=699cf143&hm=e425069c224449cfbe9829bf70a303596e13cca79ee468f1cfe900d8870b12ac&
This?

[polar tide]

yes

[frozen horizon]

(Cool auric parrot one)

[polar tide]

yes im aware

[lapis oak]

animator too I think ye, he did some

[polar tide]

dia animates triangle does not

afaik

[lapis oak]

didn't he animate the fat frog fishes

[polar tide]

no idea

[frozen horizon]

Does this count as an animation or is it specifically animations of existing sprites?

[lapis oak]

I think he does do some animations

[polar tide]

i legit cant rember

[rotund venture]

Carny do you mind looking at the acid rain stuff in the future content doc and telling us if it was scrapped?

[frozen horizon]

What is that beautiful spike fish 🥹

[polar tide]

its nearly 2 in the morning i am not doing this sorry

[rotund venture]

Lol fair enough

[amber egret]

whopper

that is its name now i do not care what its called

it is called a Whopper now

[lapis oak]

fat fuck (critter for Ocean)

[frozen horizon]

Vro where is your sleep schedule?

[polar tide]

i WAS asleep and then i woke up around 1 to the news that fraud is dropping today

[dusk bronze]

this stuff so far
also he rambled about how the event might work (links in future doc)

[amber egret]

yo what the fuck is that on the bottom right

[rotund venture]

Those big trashers are so cool

[dusk bronze]

nuclear terror by tobias

[rotund venture]

And the mauler oh man

[gloomy grove]

nuclear terror

[amber egret]

stupendous glowup what

wheres its Face

[gloomy grove]

i will spontaneously combust you carny

[rotund venture]

Flak crab there also friggin sick

[frozen horizon]

Most of these are cool but Idk how I feel about this.

[dusk bronze]

the red horns are coming out of the eyes and mouth iirc

[dusk bronze]

it's very wip

[rotund venture]

Keep in mind it isnt finished

[polar tide]

as i feel the need to say with everything thats been shown off before The Death Of The Horse dont assume any of this is like immune to being changed or scrapped entirely

[amber egret]

i think you'd like it more if you saw it move (and it was finished)

[frozen horizon]

I'm more caring about the blood than the qaulity.

[lapis oak]

show the Flak Toxicannon

[gloomy grove]

the horse of 87

[lapis oak]

resprite

[dusk bronze]

i don't have it 😢

[lapis oak]

L

let me just pull it from the compressed ass Twitter post

[dusk bronze]

peam

[rotund venture]

Peak!!!

[gloomy grove]

oh i havent seen that one yet thats pretty creative

[rotund venture]

Was NT finished and shown, I dont think ive seen

[wide nova]

thats if any of this actually sees the light of day

[dusk bronze]

just that sprite so far

[tribal isle]

Is this gonna come in the sulphurous sea overhaul
I guess you could say some kind of… SSO

[wide nova]

the whole concept of the event is subject to change so everything uve seen take it with grain of salt

[frozen horizon]

Ngl it looks like they're about to shoot the parent in front of the child.

[dusk bronze]

sadge

[rotund venture]

Ok but like these are so cool

[lapis oak]

I mean after all it was Triangle's rambling so to be expected

[wide nova]

a lot of them will prob be used we just dont know what the plan is right now

[dusk bronze]

[wide nova]

some may or may not fit the idea later

who knows

[rotund venture]

Triangle showing atuff that wont be added for four years

Classic

[frozen horizon]

Is Old Duke still supposed to look like a Dragon with leprosy or did that change recently?

[tribal isle]

Thank you mr calamity

[wide nova]

thats kinda what he is

lol

[dusk bronze]

it's not even a fishron anymore

in the lore

[amber egret]

who will get their resprite and rework first: Yharon or Old Duke

[wide nova]

lol

[amber egret]

its truly the war of the century

[tribal isle]

Is he gonna be renamed cuz people ARE gonna make assumptions with duke fishron

[lapis oak]

pretty sure it's

actually good question

[dusk bronze]

definitely

[lapis oak]

idk

[rotund venture]

Yharon is gonna be animation hell so

[dusk bronze]

shinryu..

[rotund venture]

I bet OD

[frozen horizon]

Last I checked, Yharon is more finished, and doesn't have a second phase spritesheet so Idk why he'd need more sprites unless they majorly rework him.

[dusk bronze]

well the duke rework also has to include an entire fight overhaul and possibly the jade palace

[rotund venture]

The what now?

[dusk bronze]

the jade palace

[tribal isle]

Is yharon 2nd life coming back with the resprite

[dusk bronze]

tis the plan afaik

[rotund venture]

Yharon also needs a fight rework tho so

[dusk bronze]

yeah but not nearly as big

[rotund venture]

Tf is jade palace how have I not heard this before?

[tribal isle]

So much vague places
The cathedral, jade palace

[frozen horizon]

Will Sunken Sea look like the outskirts of a kingdom during the rework with like broken buildings and carts or will it stay relatively wild-looking?

[dusk bronze]

equip the scion's curio and stand still for a couple minutes

[rotund venture]

So the nonsense that lilfuck is spewing is not nonsense after all

[dusk bronze]

shrug

[gloomy grove]

theres like genuinely no concrete answer

its best to just wait until more is shown

its not like SSO is coming anytime soon anyways

[tribal isle]

Did od make his unpaid child workers build the jade palace

[gloomy grove]

he commissioned oogway

[lapis oak]

500 most complicated over the top peak cinema animations

for his 500 awesome attacks

[dull heart]

haii

[dusk bronze]

code anims trust

[tribal isle]

I feel like they might be biting more than they could chew because the yharon resprite is setting up unrealistically high standards

[rotund venture]

Hello doze

[lapis oak]

bye

[gloomy grove]

oh my fucking god bro

[dusk bronze]

unrealistic?? have you seen dog

[tribal isle]

I mean he’s just big

No feathers

[dusk bronze]

no i mean the rework

[dull heart]

Wow

[gloomy grove]

how so

[amber egret]

oh thats why it looks weird, the torso doesnt move

[tribal isle]

Imagine seeing crabulon next to new yharon

[gloomy grove]

ok and what about it

[dusk bronze]

imagine seeing scal next to signus

oh wait

[amber egret]

imagine seeing BoC next to Perforators

[dull heart]

Imagine seeing new crab period

[amber egret]

its like actually depressing

[gloomy grove]

imagine seeing sir nautilus next to sir amidias

[rotund venture]

Imagine seeing

[dull heart]

It's insane how bad fabsol made crab

[gloomy grove]

kissing

[dull heart]

In 2.1

[amber egret]

?

[dusk bronze]

what did he do

[amber egret]

what did they Do

[dull heart]

fight 2.1 crab

you'll see

[amber egret]

i did

[dull heart]

Keep in mind this crab is Fabsol's response to fables

[amber egret]

it wasnt horrid

[dusk bronze]

oh

oh no

[lapis oak]

you think?

[gloomy grove]

that is new trivia for me gng lmaoo

[amber egret]

yeah it wasnt bad tmk

[dusk bronze]

i didn't notice anything because i fought it post evil2

[amber egret]

i WAS using 2.1.0 Basher so maybe that did it

[dull heart]

(this isn't quite what was said but like)

[rotund venture]

It def isnt good

[dull heart]

yeah lol

Basher just erases him

[dusk bronze]

good

[amber egret]

Plantera was worse tbh

fuckin

invis spores

[gloomy grove]

did fables crabulon kill the horse's grandma

[dull heart]

skill issue

[amber egret]

no like they were basically invisible

they dont emit light

[lapis oak]

skill issue

[gloomy grove]

no?

[rotund venture]

Have you considered fables-fab less

[amber egret]

they did not emit light compared to every other projectile

[dusk bronze]

yes this was intentional

[dull heart]

go my omnicience

[rotund venture]

Oh lmao

[amber egret]

i dont like omnicience but that i should tried

[dusk bronze]

that's such a glorpshit potion bro

[amber egret]

(it did jackshit)

[dull heart]

go my shadow paint

[gloomy grove]

omnicience makes things worse

[rotund venture]

Aether pylon

[dull heart]

I need to rework omnicience to be good

[gloomy grove]

that shitty red filter makes alot of things harder to see than without

[rotund venture]

Not pylon, monolith

[dusk bronze]

you shouldn't have to use external help to be able to see attacks

[amber egret]

im not painting all of the fucking arena

[dusk bronze]

that's bad game design

[amber egret]

just make Omniscience make all projectiles really bright + have them have small trails

like Isaac does

[gloomy grove]

bright outline around projectiles instead of the red filter doze🙏

[dull heart]

that's what I was thinking

I don't know how to do it though

[dusk bronze]

add 5 giant red arrows pointing to each projectile

[rotund venture]

More players need to aether monoloth in vanity slot

[lapis oak]

Ominiscience 🤓

[amber egret]

i do that sometimes

[lapis oak]

I had to do it

[amber egret]

i do like seeing my WotG background

[dull heart]

Doesn't help here much bc of the leaf bg walls

[amber egret]

that too

[dull heart]

Well

You can mine them

If you do that then aether works

[amber egret]

again im not majorly editing the Vernal Pass

i veinmine the middle island, add four platforms, and call it Done

[tribal isle]

Someone should make a scaling unstable caster’s gauntlet

[dusk bronze]

omniscience potion is fundamentally flawed because attacks should be as visible as possible by default

[amber egret]

They Should All Fucking Glow

like yknow Fullbright? Do That

[lapis oak]

can't wait for the removal of Omniscience

[amber egret]

so people can fucking Seee It

oh right i wanted to pauldron cheese Yharon

bc i dont wanna fight him

right

[rotund venture]

Does ambergris also work with the rope glitch?

Is it all dash effects?

[frozen horizon]

Highly visible projectiles is especially helpful in player-map-view which makes everything tinted.

[amber egret]

im not exactly sure how the pauldron cheese works

all i heard was "dash, then grapple"

[dull heart]

Then use feral bobber instead

It can kill him in 6 seconds flat

[amber egret]

what would that do

What.

[rotund venture]

Fishing class top dps

Finally

[amber egret]

with major setup or just by itself

[dull heart]

Feral Bobber, Devourer of Cods, Bloodworm in ammo slots, Old Fashioned, IV Drip, Arc Flash, and Silva armor

[amber egret]

noted ...

[rotund venture]

Arc flash working on everything is really great

[dull heart]

that should be able to get like 10 seconds kill but you will need to rely on Silva revive for it

[amber egret]

what does arc flash do

[dusk bronze]

makes you zeus

[amber egret]

i tried it on CV and it didnt really seem increidble

[rotund venture]

Zaps things

[dull heart]

5% chance to strike enemies for 3x dmg

Which is basically just 1.15x dps

[rotund venture]

It works with warbanner which is hilarious

[dusk bronze]

lmao

[lapis oak]

every attack

English

[rotund venture]

Should it be just weapons? What do yall think?

[frozen horizon]

5% random crit chance?

[amber egret]

alr how does the Pauldron work

like the glitch

or how Did it work (if its removed)

wow yeah that did just shred them

okay

[dull heart]

you should try the bobbers it's funny

and will be patched in 2.1.2

[amber egret]

i did try the feral bobber strat

why does it do so much damage lol

[lapis oak]

WHAT

NEPTUNE'S BOUNTY LINE GOT VISUAL UPGRADES???

😭

how many changes are undocumented ong

literally have to check everything fr otherwise you'll miss it

[radiant sparrow]

Ngl I'm looking forward to a death mage run

Mage looks really cool now after 2.1

Mage pre brainstorm felt really slow and cringe

[cobalt wharf]

its documented

theres like 800 of these in this secton xd

[dusk bronze]

so did soul piercer 💀

or was it stream gouge

the cosmilite spear

[wise bolt]

bully people that i dont know in calmain with me bro

[lapis oak]

nah

looks the same

[dusk bronze]

how

unless it was reworked first for some reason

[molten grove]

whats it look like

since 2022 its been spin with a smear, thrust into a portal, then spears appear on your cursor with metaballs

[dusk bronze]

yeah the metaball stuff is what the new dog weapons use

why was it reworked before anything else 💀

[molten grove]

yeah stream gouge invented the DoG metaball

in 2022

[dusk bronze]

actually ridiculous

[misty solstice]

Im just happy soma is back

[meager escarp]

omg is that the REAL astrum deus??/??///???

[molten grove]

for the 1.4 port we collapsed most of the github branches
including unfinished ones
one branch was gonna rework a buncha weapons but only had stream gouge done

infamously
one of the merged branches had unfinished oathblade line reworks

[dusk bronze]

damn that old??

fish_hell.mp4

[amber egret]

why does tainted orderbringer still fire projectiles

[radiant sparrow]

Oh fuck, I haven't done Deus yet and I'm pre provi

[cobalt wharf]

RELEASE THE 2022 REWORK FILES

honestly probably a blessing in disguise if all of those reworks were gonna be in a similar caliber to stream gouge and victide weapons ngl

[dusk bronze]

update called brainstorm:

[misty solstice]

kid named finger

[dusk bronze]

that is in fact the joke i was referencing

[strange widget]

nameless kid:

[tall mortar]

prioritize cpu 0-3 and play via steam server

[molten grove]

they all got deleted when 22 happened im afraid

[lapis oak]

wow

[dusk bronze]

wait seriously

[earnest jewel]

Old Calamity reworks are... lost media!?

[tribal isle]

kid named finger

[deft lily]

[rough vine]

they optimized scal

[main estuary]

scamitas

[inner hedge]

is there a current roadmap on future/planned updates?

[main estuary]

there's the unofficial future content document in the pins

[rotund venture]

no official roadmap

and there won't be one

[hardy gulch]

scal but she learned how to create her own holograms

[dusk bronze]

list compiled by me
[all of this is subject to change]

[vivid hemlock]

not necessarily

thats just abunch of info theres no order to it

[main estuary]

fair

[lapis oak]

next update: not SSO -> stay tuned!

[dusk bronze]

[inner hedge]

Thanks!

Is 2.1 different enough compared to 2.0 to start a new playthrough?

[dusk bronze]

absolutely

it's the biggest update in history

[vivid hemlock]

someone gets it

[earnest jewel]

Brainstorm means that you can have fun fighting some bosses.

[dusk bronze]

also true

[rough vine]

next is actually exo mechs

[earnest jewel]

Lunatic Cultist update focusing on his divorce is next, obviously.

[deft lily]

Evil 2 retier canceled. evil 3 retier inbound trust

[earnest jewel]

If Evil2 is so good, when is Evil3 coming out? Where's Gordon!?

[rough vine]

slime goo

[hardy gulch]

WHAT IS EVIL 3

[pulsar cobalt]

third evil boss duh

[twin bloom]

Its the

[vast ferry]

I can't wait for eater of worlds to never be reworked

[lean relic]

SSO in two major updates

[tribal isle]

How much is that in years approximately

[dusk bronze]

5-7 if i had to guess (idk)

[tribal isle]

What do you think will drop first sso or gta 6

[dusk bronze]

gta 6

[lean relic]

need the official road map
please devs I need this

[polar tide]

no

there will never be an official public roadmap

[lean relic]

🥀

[steel pike]

please speed I need this

[polar tide]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-try-not-to-laugh-gif-7682731162751353849

[frail tapir]

Oh this will take forever

[deep bough]

yharim is coming out tomorrow

good roadmap

[frail tapir]

Sso is still far from done I guess, maybe half done

[polar tide]

we are not focusing on sso right now

[steel pike]

And so is bully

[frail tapir]

Oh? So what are y'all focussing on?

[polar tide]

🤐

[frail tapir]

Yeah I forgot u guys need to zip ur mouth

[steel pike]

If he leaks it they’ll get them

And feed him to the monster

That runs the whole mod secretly

[frail tapir]

[steel pike]

feel that? Thats

[polar tide]

^

[steel pike]

calamity mod the sequel

[deft lily]

I think Alex should kill everyone

besides me of course

[steel pike]

Girl with septum piercing: it like didn’t even hurt

[upper hatch]

Tell me who implemented SimplifyAccessoryReforge

[strange cargo]

Is making the sunken sea immune to infection in the cards at all?

[upper hatch]

It doesn't add any benefit beyond that Remove Reforge RNG does, it makes all accessories the same rarity regardless of the reforge, and it breaks Auto Reforge (which I use because tMod is not 1.4.5 yet)'s ordering, making me scroll way more to find Warding or Lucky or Menacing (previously they were at the top of the list because they were the highest rarity)

And the worst part is, the goddamn config option related to it changes absolutely nothing

I turned it off and it didn't resolve my issue

I will try restarting tMod to see if that helps

[strange cargo]

Idk dude I only ever get the top tier reforges these days so I dont even go hunting for a specific one in the list

[upper hatch]

...actually, yeah, Calamity's Remove Reforge RNG kinda makes this mod obsolete anyways...

[polar tide]

i like the way you think

[polar tide]

idk

i always play with begone evil so i wasnt aware it even could get infected

[strange cargo]

Yeah and if you try to purify it with the clentaminator it turns to normal sand

[polar tide]

ermmmm awkward

[steel pike]

:cables:

[deft lily]

:)

[polar tide]

i imagine we would make it totally immune to infection at least once sso is out

[looks towards the camera] which isnt happening soon, by the way

[steel pike]

dude broke the fourth wall

[tropic jolt]

🪬

[steel pike]

hi cyver

[echo pier]

Why have some changes calamity been made to vanilla stuff in earlier updates been reverted with the latest update? such as true nights edge projectile now moving along with you again, or ankh shield giving again 4 defense instead of 10 or whatever it was

[desert garnet]

the defense got changed cuz everything had defense reduced

enemies also deals less dmg

[echo pier]

I see

but true nights edge projectile now moves along with you again, calamity in previous updates removed this

[desert garnet]

to make it more simple and more friendly towards other mods

[desert garnet]

im not familliar with this

whats the issue with the projectile?

[echo pier]

Now it moves as you do just like in vanilla, in earlier updates calamity changed this so the projectile moved straight

[desert garnet]

so when you jump, the projectiles goes upwards?

[echo pier]

Yeah

not only this, but in the latest update calamity reverted many vanilla changes which don't come to my mind now except for the wings giving unique buffs

[desert garnet]

wings werent really giving "unique" buffs

they made wings more unique now

like for example pixie wings gives more flight time but when you touch the dust, you lose flight time faster

[lapis oak]

@dull heart fix ur shit

what is this glorpshit shield

[desert garnet]

but overall, devs nowadays dont want to change vanilla too much and be more friendly towards other mods

[echo pier]

It's the mirror blade's special effect

[desert garnet]

they want to make stuff more consistent to vanilla

[past stirrup]

what u need to do to get hellstone pre boss? brimstone crag and hell lab chests? it is enough to get a pickaxe?

[pulsar cobalt]

skissue

[desert garnet]

do you really need hellstone pre boss?

are you doing some kind of challenge?

cuz most of the times, you dont need hellstone that early

[past stirrup]

not really just wanna skip pre hard tbh

[desert garnet]

and no, you cant mine hellstone early

you gotta find another way

[past stirrup]

not talking about mining

read my message

[fathom girder]

Type shit

[desert garnet]

wouldnt make sense for devs to just put enough hellstone to make a weapon early

for pic you need 20

for some weapons you need less

[fathom girder]

You do just give you hellstone in the hell lab and in ash chests

[past stirrup]

yeah

then shimmer the lab finders

u get 21 hellstone iirc

[desert garnet]

bruh

[pulsar cobalt]

uhhh you can get plenty of hellstone for a pickaxe

[fathom girder]

Hehe

[desert garnet]

why

[fathom girder]

Exploration tech

[past stirrup]

? its been like that for a while now

[fathom girder]

It's like noita

Just know

[pulsar cobalt]

it just takes this amazing thing called knowledge and patience

[past stirrup]

not intended for normal playthroughs

[steel pike]

UGH I WANTED TO SEND THIS

IVE BEEN WANTING TO SEND THIS FOR DAYSS

[fathom girder]

🐌

[steel pike]

THANK UOU

[fathom girder]

Oh right you're warned

L

[steel pike]

Slices your stomach open

[fathom girder]

Good luck trying that one

[steel pike]

You’re gonna be the one needing luck here

[tropic jolt]

turns you into spiked jungle slime

[fathom girder]

Wait peak

Now I can be op

[steel pike]

I remember these critters

they used to annoy the shit outta me

[solemn crest]

In for the worthy it’s possible to get cobalt pre-boss

[next cradle]

whats the best class for astrum deus now?

[deep bough]

resubscribe to it on the workshop

[unborn zodiac]

I’ve heard tell that true melee got reworked?

[steel pike]

wait how

[distant raft]

planetoids

but thats lame

[halcyon seal]

Not to my knowledge

The current plan is to remove true melee damage entirely I think

But thats not in brainstorm

[dull heart]

Many melee weapons got reworked and became true nelee

Is probably what they mean

[halcyon seal]

Oh right

[steel pike]

Ohhh

[distant raft]

youve gotta dig through wooden spikes and lava though

[versed heart]

I wonder if that'll ever get removed? Just seems a little weird to give players something like that, even if FtW isn't going to be taken seriously by Cal

[strong isle]

[south cloak]

usually not a big fan of having 1 summon but honestly the p-ama is a rediculously good rework

gj to whichever dev hopped in the kitchen and cooked up this michelin star weapon

[fathom girder]

nah

caldevs are willing to leave the shitpost seeds alone

[grave geyser]

ok but at the same time

it really shouldnt be there in ftw

because it makes gfb and ftw less distinct from one another

because instead of one being the silly meme seed and the other being the "go to hell and die" seed in this specific instance they are both the silly meme seed

[fathom girder]

they're both shitpost seeds

[grave geyser]

different flavors

[arctic cliff]

different flavors of doing your mom

[grave geyser]

and I dont think one needs to bleed into the other

[polar tide]

BRIAN NO

[arctic cliff]

someones mom got doned too hard

[fathom girder]

why can't you just ping mod role this is sucks

[arctic cliff]

now they're scambotting

[grave geyser]

staff mail exists

[fathom girder]

staff mail for this is annoying this ain't a three week long investigation for a scandal this is a single guy that can be shot on sight

and he got shot

[south cloak]

thats like a very big scam going on

ive seen it in like 12 diff servers over the past 5 weeks

[fathom girder]

It's been a thing for months yes

[dull heart]

I should move it to GFB

I'll do it rn

Spikes and lava can stay

[vivid thicket]

After I played with Rogue and Melee in the newest update I felt like Rogue is missing so many new weapons compared to Melee, like late game and mid game they have just one or two options and that's it, but the late game weapons of Rogue are insane of good, sadly is not a good amount

[dull heart]

Done

[grave geyser]

I mean I will say part of this is definitely that melee has by far the most weapons so any class is gonna feel lacking options in comparison

but yes rogue often finds itself having as few as 5 weapons at any given tier

[versed heart]

So it's not getting removed? makes sense

[high scaffold]

FTW is a joke at its base

[vivid thicket]

I mean, mage now has a ton of reworked weapons now, maybe mage can keep up now with Melee now

[high scaffold]

Ranger still has all the same boring bows and guns with a few exceptions

[dull heart]

I literally just removed HM ores in FTW planetoids

Moved that to GFB

[fathom girder]

oh

whups

[versed heart]

Ah, cool

[high scaffold]

Calamity ranger be like "waiter waiter, 10 more daedalus strormbow copies please"

At least guns have more unique weapons

[steel pike]

I’m at this crystal and mineral place and some of them look plucked straight from calamity mod

[amber furnace]

I wonder what it's like to play calamity on classic

[compact topaz]

aw man

my cobalt and palladium pre boss method gone?

[steel pike]

creeper

[compact topaz]

Trying to beat prehm ftw without cobalt and recently the newly added palladium to planetoids is diffcult

but i guess Ill stick to my nerfed platinum armor and stuff

aw man

@dull heart why move them to gfb?

[dull heart]

the entire point of FTW is it's just crazy difficulty

[steel pike]

hence its name

[dull heart]

the cobalt / palladium planetoids were entirely antithetical to that

[steel pike]

for the worthy

[fathom girder]

yeah but it's for the worthy...

the worthy can have a little cobald or palladium...

[earnest jewel]

Too bad, it's all been bought up by the phone and car companies.

[steel pike]

If they fucking earn it

[fathom girder]

YEAH IT'S HARD TO

...UH

GO UP TO UM. SPACE...

[dusty furnace]

Triactis' True Paladinian Mage-Hammer of Might needs a buff so hard😭 😭 🙏 🙏 🙏

[main kiln]

So I haven’t been ingame yet but saw this on the wiki; what do the new rarities look like?

[arctic cliff]

they are quite flashy

especially burnished auric

[main estuary]

fun fact
burnished auric flashes blue sometimes

[solemn crest]

My dnd players would LOVE a little kobold

[tropic jolt]

blizzard tomorrow

🧊

[hasty tangle]

i think i finally figured out malice dog's dashes

that is all.

[dull heart]

for now

I'm interested to see how it goes for you

[hasty tangle]

i thought those werent being changed

[dull heart]

they're not no

[hasty tangle]

i thought it was just desperation and more effective HP

[dull heart]

I just like vagueposting

[hasty tangle]

alright

[dull heart]

but yeah his dashes are exactly where I want them

[lapis oak]

dozezoze

make the Mirror Blade's shield hitbox larger

[dull heart]

the way he works means fighting him with Deep Diver vs Aegis vs Ambergris

[lapis oak]

otherwise pretty good

[dull heart]

It all plays very different

[blazing field]

Calamity Update Talk

[dull heart]

Plain aegis might be my favorite way

But it's also definitely harder

[drowsy turret]

what are practical uses for iv drip

[lapis oak]

Old Fashioned builds

[drowsy turret]

yes i know, but could you give an example of such a build

[lapis oak]

Exo Armaments Kit

[dull heart]

Feral Bobber

[pulsar cobalt]

ram spam

[drowsy turret]

so you can kill bosses with fishing rods

amazing

[blazing field]

fishing% soon

[fathom girder]

Maybe

It's getting nerfed pretty soon

[lapis oak]

how about High Ruler spam

[compact topaz]

unlucky I guess

[fathom girder]

Okay but not impressive

[compact topaz]

Are you also removing the roxcalibur being shimmberable?

[dusty furnace]

Melee stopped being a ranger at some late stages of the game 🥹

[grim pecan]

no, rox will remain shimmerable

[main estuary]

doesn't it decraft into enough bars for a pick?

[grim pecan]

decrafts into enough bars to get almost a full set of hellstone. even if it didn't, cal offers you enough through crags chest and the draedon lab to make one that shimmering it isn't required

[compact topaz]

yeah sounds about right

[main estuary]

it decrafts for a whole set of hellstone armor?

[compact topaz]

no

just 25

pickaxe uses 20

[main estuary]

still
25 bars is really good for something you can get preboss

[compact topaz]

pre boss

which also brings up another point

ah nvm

reaver shark just makes it easier to mine hellstone

[dull heart]

No

Reaver shark can't mine hellstone

[compact topaz]

yeah i know

which is why it was nerfed

again

[main estuary]

it was also able to mine the first tier of hm ore iirc

[compact topaz]

^ that too

[dull heart]

yeah

[compact topaz]

before 2.1 i would get reaver shark

mine cobalt

[dull heart]

You can get molten pick in a few ways though

[compact topaz]

and defeat all the prehm ftw bosses

[rancid pagoda]

most of the methods involve shimmer but 1.4.5 is going to introduce hellstone in obsidian crates anyway

[compact topaz]

that is true

[rancid pagoda]

should drops like obsidian rose shimmer to their crafting components?

[deft lily]

ive seen a lot of ppl whine abt the revear shark nerf, as if there is no way to tier skip anymore 😭

like u can still tier skip idk what the big deal is

[compact topaz]

yeah most people dont even know about rox or crags chest

[lapis oak]

the chud shield

[deft lily]

fair enough ig

[compact topaz]

just keep it niche

[rotund venture]

They should make a calamity mod that plays the game for me

[steel pike]

Wait actually

[strange cargo]

Its getting annoying with how many ppl complain

[steel pike]

I thought it could

[solemn crest]

Wait is it possible to get slagsplitter pre-boss?

[steel pike]

It’s annoying but not an insanely big deal

I guess

[deft lily]

and then go into #calamity-mod-talk and complain that the game is too easy and that the cal devs are evil and thats why its "another example of the dokuro affect 😭 😭 😭 🥀 "

[rotund venture]

Exactly you get it

Also the mod should cater to me specifically and only have things that I think are fun

[deft lily]

-US government halts manufacturing pennies
-Yet another example of the cal devs being evil smh this is why we cant have nice things grrr

[rotund venture]

: )

[strange cargo]

And I should directly address Ozz with my issues

[deft lily]

@ ozzoftron

[rotund venture]

You should actually @ everyone

[solemn crest]

Average cal overhaul fan

[steel pike]

@ozzyosbourne

[strange cargo]

Calhaul players are genuine chuds

[strange cargo]

Gang

[compact topaz]

this is my favorite thing to do btw

[unreal shuttle]

😭

[strange cargo]

Thats sm shi calhaul players would do

[steel pike]

This sentence would kill a terraria player in 2013

[compact topaz]

stress testing my pc moment

[steel pike]

It would put then in fucking cardiac arrest

[unreal shuttle]

[tropic jolt]

poor thanatos

[strange cargo]

.

[distant raft]

none of those things existed so theyd have no idea what youre talking about

[spiral tree]

True

[lapis oak]

Phase 2 lasers were so much harder to nohit for me than Final Phase lasers

it's so funny

[rotund venture]

I have the solution to all calamity mod problems actually

[steel pike]

literally they would just disintegrate

[tropic jolt]

justice for worm bosses

[steel pike]

We should all go back to wooden bow and flaming arrow against eye of Cthulhu

[tropic jolt]

they dont deserve to be bullied

[strange cargo]

Wait yall havent been?

[steel pike]

And ocram being the final boss

[strange cargo]

back in my day, duke fishron was the final boss

[steel pike]

Noo I mean like when things are simple I usually still do

Or like water bolt or smth

[steel pike]

Back in my day face monsters used to scare me

[strange cargo]

Back in my day I didnt know how to properly play the game

[rotund venture]

Explaing astrum deus then

[fierce nebula]

Back in my day, ocram was the final boss 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥

On console

[steel pike]

Already said that sadly

[fierce nebula]

🥀

[strange cargo]

Eater of worms 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥

[fierce nebula]

🥀

[solemn crest]

Ok is there any method in addition to roxcalibur shimmer to get essence of havoc in pre-HM?

[steel pike]

Back in my day I didn’t know there was a limit to how far in the dungeon you could go pre-Skeletron

[compact topaz]

nah who remembers having 9999 chlorophyte bullets in 1.2

[steel pike]

That one I’m glad is left in the past

Scared the shit outta me

[compact topaz]

my favorite tedit trick

[distant raft]

no

[grim pecan]

no, rox is the only option

[fierce nebula]

I mostly played in 1.3.5 so I’m larping

[strange cargo]

Dox em

[steel pike]

Me too lol I started 2017

[strange cargo]

Not actually

[unreal shuttle]

[strange cargo]

Like bust their name

JUST

[grim pecan]

do not

[strange cargo]

FUCK

im gonna get off

[fierce nebula]

I fought ocram one time ever

[unreal shuttle]

there is a reason why i censored it so people dont go harass them lmao

[strange cargo]

My brain is clearly telling me its time to take a break

[steel pike]

For April fools you should add ocram

[solemn crest]

Cool

Was theorycrafting to see if pre-HM slagsplitter was a thing

[rotund venture]

Bust? Get off?

[steel pike]

@mods @mods @mods @mods

Obliterate him with your minds

[fierce nebula]

Band

[rotund venture]

Dw Ill post an apology video

Monetized ofc

[solemn crest]

Mods, find his address, go to his house, and force him to read Fabsol lore

[rotund venture]

You fool

I was here when it was written

[solemn crest]

That’s it

5 minutes of calamity overhaul be upon ye

[rotund venture]

[steel pike]

Mods force him to listen to lil pump and get Jaiden smith tattooed on his neck

[worn geode]

what should be my starting pre boss gear for summonor this update

anyways what qol mods is acceptable to use

just enogh to be helpful not cheating

[woven halo]

Magic storage

[sinful dagger]

In increasing order: boss checklist, recipe browser, magic storage, Fargo’s mutant mod

[earnest jewel]

Specifically the Lite version of Boss Checklist.

And Fargo's Mutant Mod is much less useful in Calamity due to infinite boss summons.

[distant raft]

the boss summon purchasing once cleared is nowhere as useful as the banner crafts imo

i love hitting pity 🤤

[strange cargo]

Or the abominationn and deviantt

[wary crest]

It butchers chainsaw still worth using or nah?

[amber furnace]

yes

[wary crest]

Cool, the rebalance sounded kinda bad on paper so I wasnt sure

[hushed monolith]

when is the next update for bug fixes dropping?

[earnest jewel]

Soon, probably.

[young seal]

did melee or ranger get more stuff/changes this update?

[dull heart]

melee

[young seal]

okay tyyy

[fierce hearth]

I've discovered that my minions despawning after a little while is a product of...

world hopping?

[high scaffold]

Its always melee

Terraria's melee glaze needs to be studied

[tropic jolt]

its deserved glaze

melee is the king!

[young seal]

1.4.5 vanilla gave summoner by far the most new stuff so its okay..

melee definitely the favorite tho lmfao

[tropic jolt]

mage dying in a ditch on the side of the road

at least the new calamity update gave a lot of stuff to mage

[drowsy turret]

hey so im in the middle of a solar eclipse

and a brain of cthulhu just randomly spawned????

[high scaffold]

Were you in the crimson?

[drowsy turret]

no

my best guess is pots dropping from bombs and exploding the hearts but no messages showed up in chat

XD

[blazing field]

feed us we are the calamitylings

[slate folio]

starve

sentenced to no spoilers or updates for 3 years for being greedy

[rotund venture]

Sentence this 👊 ravager rework tomorrow

[fathom girder]

is that why SSO took so long

[dull heart]

Correct

[fathom girder]

That's a weird root cause

[lapis oak]

yoooo I can crunch the whole footage down to 100MB

DaVinci is awesome

true melee DoG nohit hehe

[steel pike]

Deserved

Melee my goat

[silent chasm]

I guess mine is also no hit

[fierce hearth]

oh my god I'm sweating like a pig I just beat Death DoG finally

I had to relent and go get a normality relocator to give me just an ounce of additional breathing room during the portal dash phase

[lapis oak]

laser attacks so awesome oat

[dull heart]

now go do malice!!

[tropic jolt]

😨

[lapis oak]

but why Phase 2 lasers so much harder than Final Phase lasers

[fierce hearth]

no.

[dull heart]

phase 2 is mechanically harder but phase 3 is mentally harder

[silent chasm]

I wonder if I can replicate this in death mode

[thin magnet]

Yo Doze dunno if you can answer this question, but I just finished remaking the new brainstorm update theme in Wallpaper Engine with the particle effects, would I be allowed to upload it to the workshop for others to use?

[dull heart]

Idk

[lapis oak]

istg as soon as I got past Phase 2 I beat the Final Phase in like less than 10 tries

they're so hard lol

[fierce hearth]

seems like more of a question for ozzatron and the general dev team

[thin magnet]

Where would I ask them that?

[fierce hearth]

shrug, surely there's a point of contact somewhere but I don't know where

[dull heart]

ik cal website has an email

[frozen horizon]

#info message

[fierce hearth]

there ya go

[thin magnet]

Guess I'll just send an email asking if I can upload it with a video attached of what it looks like

[fierce hearth]

my final loadout (all menacing) that I took, using Crescent Moon, Sirius, Guidelight of Oblivion and Stratus Sphere

[lapis oak]

just a bit crusty

[fierce hearth]

My damage was so high I would almost always entirely skip phase 1 and 2 lasers, only having to deal with phase 3 lasers

My runs would mostly end at the dimensional dives, which finally learning how to calm down after lasers and respond accordingly was the largest hurdle

[pulsar cobalt]

halleys inferno is better i think

since youd essentially always have max accuracy

which is like the best starburst gen

[fierce hearth]

I WANTED to use crescent moon!

[pulsar cobalt]

you can also use vega rclick + purple haze

[fierce hearth]

also I'm doing a run where I'm focusing basically exclusively on melee, summon and magic

I kinda ignored everything that was ranged or rogue lmao

I'll play with them later

There's just So Much New Stuff even doing a multiclass run I had to decide to cut some corners somewhere to not be utterly overwhelmed

man now I need to decide what to prioritize making with my cosmilite

[dull heart]

Nah

Halley's suffers from being too slow to burn starburst rn

[steel pike]

I’m gonna talk to my parents tonight about getting a pc to run terraria calamity

We just got to the new house we moved into

[dull heart]

It can use the starburst super often but like

The DPS when using is meh

I'm making Halley starburst do 2.5x dps in 2.1.2 though

(but consume 2x starburst)

[lapis oak]

sounds good

incoming next busted OP doze's rework

[steel pike]

doze if you had to recommend one class for playing calamity what would it be

[fierce hearth]

Do you intend to make more weapons specifically designed to work well with multiclassing, or will that be a stratus exclusive thing

[pulsar cobalt]

?

[dull heart]

all of them

Multiclass is so fun

[dull heart]

When using just Halley and Sirius I genuinely almost never ran out of starbursts

Sometimes I even capped

It couldn't use enough starbursts to make the most of its damage

[pulsar cobalt]

but u can also use draconis and vega

[dull heart]

yeah even with those it just

wasn't worth it

Wlel

It would be for making starbursts

It's the second? or third best starburst generator after Gladius and maybe draconis

[pulsar cobalt]

second

[dull heart]

I should make a chart on the actual amount of starbursts generated by each

[pulsar cobalt]

draconis took like 30 secs ish to get to max

very bad considering its the only one you need to physically pickup starburst

Halley's (Max Accuracy) - 20
Crescent Moon - 33
Vega - 30
Alpha Draconis - 28
Siruis - 49

in seconds, forgot to do galileo cuz uhh forgot

[river bear]

I remember seeing a google doc that had a bunch of the old sprites and stuff on it for bosses, anyone know where it is? I need to find them all for a project I'm working on

[steel pike]

Good answer

I love multiclass

[dull heart]

I also should make a chart of dmg per starburst consumed

[steel pike]

mmmgh… starburst….

[lapis oak]

AD's normal attack is kinda mid

[dull heart]

yeah

that's how all of them are meant to be

Crescent Moon is a little overtuned on its normal

As is Vega

[lapis oak]

literally a summoner weapon in disguise